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May 4, 2022 4:40 pm
The following is a prerecorded program to special guest today. You don't want to miss a moment of today's broadcast time for the light a fire with your host scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more spiritual clarity, call 866-34-TRUTH to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown Spencer didn't play broadcast and you will get with faith, truth and courage you will get a dose of moral sanity and spiritual clarity get strengthened in your walk in the Lord. If you don't believe as I do. Well, hopefully, will present some things of you thinking that we challenge you to go deeper and then together, let's pursue God and his truth. Welcome to the broadcast 86634 866-34-TRUTH 780 for the second half of the broadcast of them is speaking with Jonathan Kohn and then with William Frederick can be some very interesting interviews. I can assure you of that.
So if you are talking about anything. If you have a question on any subject under the sun that relates in any way. Anything we ever talk about oblong fire. Now's a good time to call 866-348-7884. All right want to speak honestly candidly with understanding about pastoral ministry about responsibilities to the church in the midst of the culture wars in the midst of the moral controversies and confusion in America.
How much should pastors lead into these things. Be it political issues, be it cultural issues, be it moral issues is only when it intersects with whatever the pastor happens to be teaching on or preaching on and at the point in time should be when the Holy Spirit says, now's the time to warn or address or equip should be based on survey the needs of the flock and getting a feel for what the people need to be strengthened.
All of the above can be true. There is relevance, and in each of the three things that I said is your teaching through the word you address whatever comes up where the Holy Spirit lays on your heart.
You need to focus on this or is your interacting with your people really say we have some needs here. So what I want to go to that last point first. If your pastor if your ministry please hear me out because I'm a friend of work in churches for 50 years I've served in various capacities in church from adult Sunday school teacher to Elder for brief time pastor one brother had to step down because of immorality this life that I had to fill the pulpit and help lead the body until we got the right person, but that is absolutely not my primary calling but I've served churches around the world work with pastors from house groups to mega-churches around the world and and I know that there's a lot on your plate that the average person can understand your spiritual burden to carry.
There is the that the concerns you have for the body for people who are hurting your the one they call when they're struggling you're the one that gets the call at 4 AM with screaming parents that they just found their teenage child dead of suicide when it happens to be 4 AM Sunday morning and you gotta get there and console them and then get ready to go preach at your church and then when there is a budget crisis because you followed the Lord in a certain way and people of left and that would really do with the children's pastor that you just hide in your commitment to the food program in the inner city when the money is not there and all the sways on you. If you have a team and the staff with you is. Hopefully you do with your students on your own.
You have other pastors or elders.
The fact is, there's a lot of weight that you carry a lot of responsibility that you have any can be very very challenging. My purpose here is not to lay more weight on you, or put a heavy burden on you, but rather to make an appeal on behalf of millions and millions of American believers. Let me be specific. All I'm thinking maybe 10 years ago, leading pastor, and one large city in America with the congregation then of about 6000. He was a board member of mine at that time. He said that he meets on a regular basis with the other mega-church pastors in his city and he said at that time maybe more than 10 years ago this point he was the only one among them who would address the issue of homosexuality from the pulpit, even in terms of just ministering to people it in the body about sexual issues that was not tell you about the gay agenda that some of what was happening in society. She was the only one among them. That's will not mention the city because of what the country was this with this will know what about this and and it we talked about the shocking pastoral lack in that because this is the world in which orchids are being raised. This is what's coming their way through media and social media, and schools. This is what parents and singles are dealing with in the workplace. This is what folks are getting bombarded with University campuses and to not address these issues is negligence on the pastor level. Please Harry, I am called to do a particular job. I am quote your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity. Your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution that's that's part of my calling, so I'm on the front lines of these issues and I'm writing about them on a regular basis and I'm taking heat for right we are putting out resources and others print resources for you so you don't have to do all the digging. All the research putting out new articles and videos on a regular basis and in other family ministries and end of December. The culture wars their pertinent information. Just like family research Council and other Christian conservative political organizations, okay pictures of orders God hear the different candidates for the issues knucklehead sword up there doing the work for you, so I'm not expecting everyone to be expert where some of us become experts on anomaly expert in several areas right and I'm not expecting pastors, church pastors and and and teachers to emphasize the type of subjects that I do as much as I do. This is a matter of calling it would be a healthy church. If you spent so much time talking about these things. This is specialized ministry specialist teaching and interaction that were doing.
By way of radio and Internet but but here's why talk about pastoral negligence when ever I am asked to whatever I'm asked to go to church and address Kenya began Christian talk about human sexuality. Inevitably, at the end of the service or the it whatever redone Q&A, etc. there is a line of people still want to talk to me personally.
So this is beyond the Q&A endlessly Q&A is agonizing. There is a line of people waiting to talk to me personally. Many of them weeping and telling me their stories. Now the problem is they been there for years they've been in that church, but somehow the issues were addressed to like him enough credit to the pastor for saying hey there's BRCA2 coming address these things my joy to do it my joy to do it, but that the concern was what was about what's going on in their daily life. So speak on this in a church that is really been trying to tackle these issues for years now to love and compassionately reaching out to the people with compassion, resisting the agenda with courage to finish the last service Sunday morning go to the book table to greet some people and woman comes up to him and saw him thinking I'm just going back the talk to people, black, white, missing Jewish background male female younger older pretty wide range right one comes up to me she works in special ed and local high school. She has been there since 2006.
I said to her, has since its regular high school, but she does special ed with it. I said to her, has the school changed since you been here she's all completely dramatically. She said the new principal is basically only hiring faculty, teachers stood for for the school who are gay or lesbian doesn't want to hear from those with a different point of view. She said EES completely transform the school with a put up in the walls in the halls and all completely transform the school in front of her eyes. What happens to the kids who go there so here this woman maybe ghost your church right this educator may be some of the kids in your church go to that school.
Who's helping them as they are being bombarded with this other woman wants to talk to.
She says local private school that they're involved with in the community and not a private Christian school, but private school and boy comes in to pre-k pre-K so maybe he's four years old, maybe five.
He comes in he now identifies as a girl wants to be called by a girl's name not only to start calling by girls name, but they now have the the class reading books to give the teachers reading books to the kids about. You know I look like a red crayon but I'm really a blue crayon and she said it was going on for weeks before the parents even found out okay, then driving in the car on the way to to pastor's house and talking to a gentleman who works with Wells Fargo. Some of the biggest banks in America, been there 41 years. I said to him as a change but since you been there as he's driving his mild-mannered guy as he's driving. He puts his hands on his head like oh my, you have no idea and he said they are pushing out those with different views not overtly firing, but pushing out. In other words, maybe it's June gay pride month.
Okay, we want you to put these posters up or these banners up in your office.
Now they're not forcing you to, but if you don't you will be isolated, marginalized, and they will take note of that when it comes time to really to give the promotion to or not. I have a friend that work with bank of America for years and and a few years back. He said they basically squeeze me out. That's what happened. They squeeze me out.
I am speaking just another church. If you must. Before that, were they were addressed issues regularly, but this is what they're dealing with story after story after story after story enough time to relate them now. Last story last night man comes up to me, tears in his eyes. He said what I do.
My 17-year-old daughter now wants to be known by a boy's name. She wants to get on hormones she wants to retort sex change surgery. I'm not agreeing to let her do it. Her older sister is not cut me off for being hateful won't even talk to me cheers and his own daughter said how long she identified like this. Is it just the last year. He said two years ago she was standing up with the pastor on moral and cultural issues. I'm with you pastor I'm standing with you and now the sudden and dramatic shift friends.
This is happening in churches all across America. Kids in school are getting bombarded from pre-k up parents or dealing with difficult issues. Young people trying to navigate these waters. Grandparents saying what do we do about our grandson was to come over and wear dresses.
It is a sacred pastoral responsibility friends to help those struggling, which means God to wade into controversial areas have to go to the flock by appeal of Eureka to light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by: 866-34-TRUTH there again is Dr. Michael Brown, can I daresay that one major reason that so many people in our churches are struggling so many families are struggling with these types of controversial difficult sexual issues is because we have not addressed the issues sufficiently literate, as we been so focused on people people people, which is God's heart God's focus is on people because we have neglected dealing with the issues with love and truth. Now people are hurting and are more confused, eight 663-4874 up and think about these things even more than normal because I'm speaking gullible into few hundred leaders in the greater New York area.
This this week, and God willing, and just finish ministry in the church with the pastor say how is life in the life of the church was to transform buyer coming in and addressing issues with compassion and truth.
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After Dr. Brown. I called Beverly that I appreciate your ministry end up garbage about year ago and I really really enjoy. Let think that the one into our long.you have to debate wanted to ask you if you could now be in a nutshell, what, how, perhaps, panicky Hagan ministry may have influenced your theology one way or another. I know that he has a tremendous impact that tremendous impact on the body of Christ in general. Specially the Pentecostal world. The charismatic world, and I know no single minister is right about everything. Or does everything perfectly, but what would you say working take away from how can Hagan might hear some of your your belief sure thing. Okay, let me make a few statements upfront so this perfect clarity on this. I categorically reject the carnal prosperity message, and I reject the notion that that we can just create realities with our words so that some of the.
The aberrant teachings in an Word of Faith camp. Having said that, and then I'm under an abused her as clear as I can. Just because I know a call like this where you're just getting information and and cohabited with interest will then be listen to folks with different theologies and and many of them believe that the entire word or phrase movement is all just like a cult like Jehovah's Witnesses. The zone saved in its final funnel agree with that. I've met plenty of genuine believers forward in faith, and they would agree with me against the extremes. They also would reject the extremes. In any case, when when I was finishing up my doctoral work late 70s early 80s have often mentioned that as much as I was active in church and active in different types of ministry in our family was living in a holistic way to help refugees and needy people take in our homes, etc. and people are and why you knew me as a strong believer, I really left my first love. And it was during this time that my sister-in-law was miraculously healed at the Kenneth Copeland meeting so I completely rejected it. I rejected the healing and whatever happened or five, but I rejected Copeland's teaching and when she wanted to share that our church and say how God wants to heal all the time.
We really pushed her out over that and she ended up going to a church where the Faith Church led to me was as bad as this could be in the people they were praying for me for God to light a fire in my heart again and God use someone who is a missionary there that had some family, the church use that person to minister to me and and God used it to kind of reveal how how far I had fallen certain areas in terms of from my first love, Elder was very weird to me because I rejected his theology. I don't mean that he was say but a lot of his theologies anyway so when the Holy Spirit fell dramatically in our church and people were dramatically touched in my life was radically changed. And then we had to leave that church ended up going to this writer Faith Church which I didn't want to go to because I differed with some of the theology very strongly will the more guts and of the pastor.
I said okay.
He did preach certain carnal prosperity things the same way and he didn't preach that Jesus was demonized and Helen cease to be God or in OD preach any of that stuff and I had free reign to speak freely where I differed it I be allowed to preach and speak freely where I differed so it was at that time that I encountered the writings of Hagan who actually gave warnings of thinking with the book the Midas touch, that he gave warnings to the word Faith camp in terms of a carnal prosperity message and don't go in this direction. Tragically, it's been exported all around the world. And I also saw balance went to meetings where he taught.
I so balance on on a number of issues that I was impressed with so here what I would say in terms of a a positive influence would be the emphasis that Hagan had of who we are in him to really immerse ourselves in Scripture and and to go through Paul's letters and to see what he wrote about who we are in Jesus, and to meditate on that, even to take the the prayers that Paul prayed for the believers in Ephesus or Philippi or for Timothy individually and then to pray those for social Ephesians 1. It was as is pray for the eyes of your understanding to be opened, that maybe we may know the Lord better. So help you pray those prayers biblical prayers for yourself that I believe was a healthy contribution and his emphasis on God's healer confirmed what I was seeing as I studied Scripture fresh and wrote my doctoral dissertation on the the Hebrew word for healing. So those were those were positive reinforcements.
And as I said I forget what point it was that he that he wrote his Midas touch book criticizing some of the extremes of the prosperity And set of all the books he wrote he never will, and prosperity and then when I went to a couple of camp meetings, where he spoke. Another spoke there was theology there are absolutely differed with. I didn't hear any of the extreme heretical stuff.
The theology that I absolutely differed with Britain in the eye. I know that many put him in that he's the father word faith movement, and therefore the father of the heresies and therefore the father of the modern prosperity gospel source I could tell he did distance himself in a number of those things as the years went on I wanted to hear more from the leaders in the word Faith camp say we were wrong about this. We were wrong about this. We things went in the way we never wanted them to go or intended them to go but we take responsibility because we got it started, but I wanted to hear that and didn't hear that at the same time. I remember Kenneth Hagan talking publicly about what happened with the his grandson. I think Craig if I'm correct I may have the name wrong since decades ago. So, Kenneth Hagan, Junior's son that he had a brain tumor and Kenneth Hagan, Senior asked Junior are you absolutely sure if we pray for him that he will be healed and Junior said yes but what if he's not, so Senior said that we don't even think twice we go. The medical route we trust God to help in the midst of it. I remember Hagan say you never try out your faith and your children, you never experiment with your faith and your children so there were there were areas where he was always trying to correct and bring balance. I've been very grieved over the years to see the direction the things ultimately went and the fruit that came from it, but there were deftly positive things that Hagan taught again who we are in Jesus, renewing our minds to that taking hold of what that means, spiritually and then living it out practically that Simi was an important take away and the emphasis on God's goodness.
God, in his goodness will bring judgment.
God, in his goodness will accidentally but he is not schizophrenic. All that he does for his people ultimately is for eternal good if we cooperate with the pay right thank you for the call. Be right back with Jonathan Kohn something surprising. I want to inform you about an Johnson City let's talk about on here so we will do that as soon as we come back.
God bless and stay tuned to the light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome (buyer I've got two special guests coming on today. First good friend Jonathan Kohn. I knew him before he was an international best-selling author I know him after his been international best-selling author, in our conversations today are just with they were years ago. We talk can we get all in the fear of God we get sobered by the state of the nation. We wonder how much more time there is for mercy. This exciting announcement and Jonathan was to share with each of you today hey thanks much for joining us on the broadcast was so before we get to the. The special announcement what you are your feel is a watchmen on the wall is as many of us try to be's understanding what's happening in the world and how God's people should respond. How fast is the clock ticking that this America still have time to repent and get right with God will Excelerator you think we all feel that on.
There are things that even you know even five years ago were hard to imagine would become mainstream right now. I was there hope to meet you there always is a meaning until the Lord okay stop praying for them on, but we need to pray on it doesn't look like on the rebuttal, I don't.
I know there are pockets of revival.I'm also there is a push back and the root there are many people feeling more more so those are not Christian that America is going heading off in a way that they never seen before. So there is hope and we have to pray for that on the culture is racing away from God and that's one of things that really this whole thing them in the harbingers on all our warning, but I've never seen everything. I don't believe anyone would be anything like what think now yeah and I respected literally word for word, said the same things this push back. There are pockets of the spirit breaking out about we've never seen things in the way they are now and it's it's very very precarious. How does this tie in with your most recent book about your last on talk about harbinger two has a current state of affairs tie in with their you will like what I wrote. Harbinger. It was, you know, if you could help with the template of warning before initial judgment. There are very specific on warnings that God gives and patterns on that happening more than my looks over and over again.
The Bible on and the thing is that they are manifesting in America that would stunned me when it began, hoping to grandma was standing at Ground Zero.
The thing to get on but I knew at that point it wasn't the end it was the beginning because the harbinger is about the first morning and at the beginning of this. The tenant has the judgment or repentance on so I always knew if America did not turn.
I was the one Elkanah. It would be difficult. I would hold off on writing it for eight years and then when I was in 2019 (or what the next book are you doing what I tell you I have had three books in my mind at the lower which of it, and none of them it was time it was going to do you have to do the heart of the SQL harbinger because the next year, which is 2020 to your grade shaking a very strong sense of it and the continuation of the of this automata shaking from auditor and I had to write what began writing it in January 2020 and then later came shaking, which were still crystal and so the pattern is that the warning comes years before initial judgment strike is a wake-up call… And the harbinger begins in on 11 then there is a period of years that the nation to come back on the deck hope that the point or warhead for judgment and greater and greater shaking and living as I believe that's where we are right now and will and one of the things Mike Bible is not a know in the auditor wasn't just about the science of of your B6 order.
If about the nation that the nation does itself, the warning is what ancient Israel is when it was warned. It actually got harder, more defiant and started racing away from God. That's where we are now so I believe it's much more dangerous point brought him precarious, so you are moving now along with your writing into the new method of getting your message out. Telus was coming next row. It was that we weren't really planning Lord really just started snow voted on and opened the door, but I believe it's very important because there's going to be on time release equipping a movie motion picture on the harbingers of things to come, and there are many people who report limited to only books and on their there are those who won't read it. They don't know the real commitment will in this form it's it's gonna reach many other people would not be as well as the people what things are going to be appearing throughout America in theaters all across the country on nearly everywhere on May 12 at the following events with a one night event on and they made ecstatic with a great demand but it could be May 12 all over and it's going to be. It's good to be reviewing it's really like to be a prophetic explosion on that if I'm taking the viewer on a journey around America to part with their art views and signs of where things are on the heading to mystery as I live where there are signs indebted on intellectually, not just can read about of the fee. The harbingers of the week people discovered archival footage with her thing about it. Just start most of it is what happened since auditor things that have happened that have been revealed afterwards were signs of cooperative where we have been off to where we are right now and where things are heading in one of things on because in visual form is something I hope not really for years that there's I could just describe it as a prophetic image or sequence caught on film that I've never really believed this way, but really warned of everything, and that's good be there as well so I believe it could be a real kind explosion of anything in theaters were normally alcoholic with you on Thorne praying for God used in out of it's okay, I'll just take to find out everything to me. That night, May 12 on, but it's not just for believers I'm praying that people bring nonbelievers because it's a real wake-up call that hard to argue with it like a trumpet call on so little of an effect upon out more pages of the river. The title at the harbingers of things to come.com. It'll tell you where it is playing and how to do it on the thing sold out where we are but you know it is the thing took the heart of the things become.com got it all right so I'm assuming based on your ethics behind this and other things you put out that this is getting to be done in a in a high quality compelling way. Those of you bringing friends along then I can think what kind of shoddy production… That it's it's gonna be compelling in terms of video format. I want one. It actually worked with Eric when he got your believer so you wonderful job. It's not. It's on you know it can be considered going to the trailer to get a taste of it, but it got it very much so that if that's enough for Mike, not only for believers and we all need to be awake.
We don't not only to be ready. We all need to know we need to be valid, prophetic people, but for nonbelievers is something that your mom inviting family you know that my family felt ill but that nonbelievers go because you visit the time and when I believe that is we need something very strongly between what's happening with the culture week. We currently need to be like water and we need to have trumpet calls and so this is a very piercing thing and yet he did a great job and that what that that I had nothing to do and for those who falsely and wrongly accuse you of sensationalism, would you say to them, well II don't forget that I don't I don't think you can effectively sensationalize warning of judgment. I don't think you can put the fish like the signs of the Lord. They are there. I mean, you cannot. You can argue with what you want, but there there and I also knew know, we've known each other for many years.
You don't you know me, I was never even planning on it on anything like it just happened and it unfolded and I meant people that you and I just looked at the Israel world where we are truly authorities and have to go out in the Lord literally forced it out of starting with the harbinger but you cannot.
You don't like it like don't going right like a fish rising when God judged each of them.
How you do that when or when Jeremiah's warning about coming on on on Israel. You can't do that.
Could you play by trying to exaggerate God.
Yet you know what I've had long before it has physical books of your symptoms of headed in a manuscript. But I decided to listen to the harbinger on audio. This was probably last year and as as it was getting into things I had to stop it for bit because it's very devastating stuff, you know that it's it's heavy stuff or talk about.
It's it's people's lives. It's people who diet like you say how can-you sensationalize the reality of of judgment and the shaking that it brings in a specific the outfit when you and I talk privately. It's the same thing.
The fear of the Lord is there because we know the intensity of things were speaking of, I spoke to church over this weekend and I've been there for years now and they've they've always wanted me to address controversial issues, but I started one message by similar cures what I wrote 10 years ago and this was based on things I was saying even before that, and it laid out so many of the major crises that were facing America today said look I wrote this 10 years ago, setting the alarm we listen to me now and and that's really what you're doing with this movie right say Outlook. We warned you we told you this was coming here it is, will you now listen to us for the rest. Lord, you know, when you thought you are preaching the gospel of Messiah regard, no matter what… Going on and be the things that when when God gives volumes of the Duchess is to confirm we are taught that there are things that any believer who was awake to the Lord is to have the sense of what's happening to America thing is it's not a defense.
It's real and and eight and God is real and is not violent.
He does give warnings that will bear to look at your photo look to give a quick example of the arm when you know from the harbinger. One of things that that day after 9/11. This this ancient Scripture is proclaimed from Capitol Hill which is the harbingers in public when I wrote my regard. I had no idea until the end that it actually was proclaimed already let that Scripture is the Scripture that happen when agent Israel was warned and instead of following God made a big fight with Tom Daschle proclaims in the humming noise he was doing programming Isaiah 9 Harbinger scooter from Capitol Hill was prophetic because at the end of his adhesive minimum at the end of his capital speech he says this is what we will do what he's referring to Isaiah 9, 10 and so and what we will do my thing again is that working out where hardening of ourselves were going to have to fight him and that's exactly where we are now ended. If we thought we were pulling away from God you around the time of 9/11, we couldn't imagine where we are now so it's unfolding in a going according to this template last time. Where can people go to find about this movie on May 12 out of the harbingers of things to come is just go if things become.com and find out where our friends go there and bring a friend to the movie. Jonathan reported talking again soon. God bless thank you my line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown was published by the New York Times just a few days ago I saw it, and make some strong charges against evangelical Christians and pastors who seem to be focusing on the question of election fraud. Now was to year or year and 1/2 out from the elections in the article starts off talking about William Fetter. If you don't going Fedor. He is the national speaker, best-selling author, president of America search, which publishes books dealing with American history and he's known for his teaching on that teaching about Islam. Islamic history so the article starts off saying this is titled a crusade to challenge the 2020 election last by church leaders. Some evangelical pastors are hosting events dedicated to trump selection falsehoods and promoting the cause to their congregations and it opens up.
Talk about this guest with Confederate speaking at pastor Mark Coward's church in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Walt on the air with me now to respond to this article is the man himself, William Fetter. Thanks much for joining us today. Great to have you back. Gregory would so limit is the larger question first.
How is it that that you got involved in this whole question of election fraud in the first place. What Weiss is important to well I ran for Congress 3×98,011, 2004 twice again. Dick Gebhart was the house minority leader it would finance people before and after all okay number one Democrat in all the United States of America and dumb. We had a big race where the presidents uncle Bucky Bush pure my finance committee reregistering $1 million in but on election day. We have people calling our office thing.
My name was left off the ballot in five wards in the city of St. Louis and we called them and they throw will just have the old be open to midnight. Don't try to come back and vote again okay are you know if they voted or not. Then the next year on the day of election.
There was somebody named Mr. Odom that his name was left off the registered voter list any foods to keep the polls open to midnight and the judge that okay keep the polls open the next day we found out that that Mr. Odom died two years earlier.
The whole thing was a fraud, yet felt election results and then all we had call coming in from the Jefferson County Board of election all the electricity goes off in the old building at 10 o'clock at night and when they reboot everything we go from being a head to behind and then we had people calling it a buy volunteered Janet McMillan was at the board of election if you checking up all the pre-think that she does they can't find the box the ballots for Guffey elementary school which was the largest briefing to the county that I personally stood in front of eight hours that day and I'm thinking what you who's in charge on their multimedia related juvenile two hours ago, but wealth is in charge. We make a big enough think worth the money goes in the basement pulled up on a cart in the elevator. The loss that that every box the ballot will be in full view of the Democratic and Republican election Judge Philip counted here. There's one person bring her off the elevator not to people I and in the middle of all this only gets on TV and announces that he want and so we personally experience and that's just the tip of the iceberg of what happened and so you have been asked the students that are coming out with the movie 2000-year-old with video cameras of them stopping ballot box. You have another movie called rig to Joe's house, Zuckerberg was funneling millions of dollars into the human political machines for all this purpose and for the average People. One believe the government and the other is skeptical of the government and because I ran for Congress three times that I personally conference, but I am skeptical of the government, you know, there's a quote from a board acted as a British statesman in the 1800.
He says official truth is not actual true. So everything is officially being given out by by infinitive immediately go up.
And so that's part of the bedding for what you're talking about but you'll figure it through.
The issue is here. They are there are people in America that are not thrilled with his knee, pushing its transgendered agenda, wanting to have 50 LGBT Q characters and indoctrinating little innocent children that there people that are not happy with that.
And there are people that are not happy that California has the goal that they post abortion bill they want to be able to kill a baby 28 days after birth. And there are people that think that it's wrong to have public schools a push a transgendered read even reassignment surgery on Jill children who have not yet been through puberty and there are people that are having a problem with a biological male, I met a person with mail body part named Leah Thomas competing in female athletic event and just getting all the gold medal. There are people that have have a hesitancy toward endorsing that right medevac. Lots of people and so when they think getting involved wanting to push our mainstream traditional American values. They want to accuse us of what they're guilty of their one that are intolerant if they're willing to blame their intolerant. They're the ones that infiltrated all these institutions but they're willing to blame us for wanting to get involved and it's actually something called psychological projection Sigmund Freud coined the term psychologist where rude people deny in themselves a negative quality but attribute that very quality to someone they don't like little kids do it.
I'm not the one who started the fight.
And so this is gotten into politics where you have candidate that do corrupt things, blaming their opponents for doing the exact corrupt thing, but they're guilty of soap, David Axelrod was the campaign manager for a previous previous president and he was on NPR radio in April 2010 and he said in Chicago politics. We have a tradition where you throw a brick through your own campaign office window, then call a press conference is your opponent in other words but there's a candidate running for president who's colluded with Russia giving away 1/5 of the US uranium to Russia in exchange for hundred $45 million contribution to her foundation. She wants to pay first deal dossier to accuser opponent of colluded with Russia. His name gets near with the media people make a mental connection where there's smoke there's fire and if it ever gets pointed back at her. By that time the water body. The public doesn't know who to trust and she get slapped with $113,000 fine and she pays it is off the hook where they were wanting to impede the parenteral. But there's another candidate was extorting Ukraine things stop investigating my son Hunter or under the hold back. Leave the dollars USA you want to accuser opponent of extorting Ukraine. You accuse them of the exact crime you're guilty of because then their name gets associated with the media and the public's mind gets confused and it gets pointed back to bed. By that time that the waters but if they get a path just just to jump just just to jump in and that was that was quite an answer had appreciated and were just about out of time at near times references through 2020 book socialism.
The real history from Plato to the present. How the deep state capitalizes on crises to consolidate control bill because our time is short. Will that book socialism. The real history from Plato to the president to the present by Bill Frederick that's FE DER ER will that book help our listeners better understand what you're talking about but definitely not go throughout democracies and republics are efforts that the power they can give it to the people. But what if the king what the power back to the passport.
No other two methods. One of people getting fear they will panic and knee-jerk reactions surrender their freedom for security and the second is three stop get people dependent on the state and they incrementally give up their freedom in exchange for the state and the state usurped power in getting control their life and so when you read this through history weathers. Machiavelli and Hegel and Carl Martin fallen, their attitude is you create or capitalized on a crises to consolidate control and anyway spell it all out. The book I go to the French Revolution.
I go through. You know the Nazis I go through you know Stalin's Soviet Union. What happened in Cuba, Venezuela. All buddy it pulled away what the Wizard of Oz pulled away the curtain and you get to see that socialism is a bait and switch for dictatorship cottage.
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The story that are… Is your much appreciated. Thanks so much. Thank you alright I friends, we are virtually out of time. Just want to say this last thing my official position about election fraud has been.
I do not know what happened. I have heard very powerful arguments for and against it. The Dinesh Desousa movie coming out when you have someone who's really delved into slot talking about it on Monday, God willing, so it's going to be an eye-opening broadcast will take calls as well. My own position is been there has been massive prayer for the election and that if Joe Biden ended up in Pres. by hook or crook or honest results, then God put in there.
Whether it's to judge us or to bless us a similar judgment and blessing it but either either way, I recognize him as our president and my position has always been. If there's been fraud it will come out that I was hoping it would come out through the courts. If it was there. Perhaps it will come out to this documentary or otherwise. That's not my focus. It's not the main thing that that we talk about however can we all agree that what we want is truth and what we want is fair elections. Can we all agree on that. That the truth needs to come out if we've already got the truth B reinforced.
If there's more that needs to come out. Whatever the consequences they become. We all agree on that goes for political backgrounds, Lord, let all the truth about the 2020 elections come out and give us fair and just elections for the future. Can we agree on that. We go another program powered by the Truth Network