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See The People: Achieving A Better World -One Life at a Time

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November 15, 2025 12:47 pm

See The People: Achieving A Better World -One Life at a Time

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November 15, 2025 12:47 pm

Shamia, a US Navy military active duty, shares his life-changing experience with Operation Christmas Child, receiving a shoebox as a child in Africa and finding God's love through it. He now travels to encourage people to pack shoeboxes, which can be dropped off at locations like Pinedale Christian Church in Winston-Salem. Bob and Vicki Fox, authors of 'See the People, Achieving a Better World One Life at a Time,' discuss their book and how it highlights the importance of seeing people's needs and praying for them.

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This is the Truth Network. Kingdom Pursuits, where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion. Together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into kingdom pursuits.

Now, live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robbie Dilmore. I love this time of year because we get a chance to experience here at the Truth Network. Operation. Christmas Child And so we got a special guest coming up with you for Operation Christmas Child today, as well as we have Bob and Vicki. They're the authors of See the People.

I love this title, See the People, a Better World, One Life at a Time. And so welcome, Bob and Vicki. I'll let Bob go first.

Well, thank you, sir. Appreciate it for having us on there.

So It's it's good to be here. Yeah. Yeah, and uh Your publicist is actually kind of a good friend of mine, Joni, and she said you guys. have this amazing Book I And I love the tide love it. Because so often we look right by people.

It really is. It kind of came as I was sitting in the backyard one day, and you know. You're wanting the Lord to talk to you, so he talk to me.

So we just see the people. They all have needs. They all need prayer. They all need something. And so, you know, it's just one of those things that was like a wake-up call.

Okay. There's a big world out there that has needs. It's just trying to figure out what needs they have. Yeah, and so Vicki, um He drug you in on this deal, right? Yeah.

Yes, he did, but it's a good deal. See, I'm a I was a car dealer for 40 years, so everything, you know, is a deal to me. And you survived it. Yeah, so from your standpoint, Vicki, uh Yeah. How do you see the people achieving a better world one life at a time?

Well They're all they're all out there and they all need Jesus. And that's You know. And he wants us all to be soul winners, bring people into the kingdom as many as we can. Because the times are short. Jesus is coming back.

People have been saying that for thousands of years, but he is coming back. And we're getting that more and more as the time goes by. And so, you know, everybody needs to be ready and know how to lead people to the Lord and how to pray them into the kingdom. Yes, yes, I couldn't agree with you more. And one of the ways that we get to do that here at the Truth Network is we partner with Operation Christmas Child.

And so we have a special guest, as I mentioned, with Operation Christian Child, and Christmas Child, and also Christian, I guess. And I'm not going to try his name, but I'm going to let him. Is it?

Well, is it Shemiah? Yeah. Beautiful, wonderful. And so we're so grateful. And, and, So it sounds like you're not originally from America.

So I am originally from West Africa in a country called Ivory Coast. Or we say Cote d'Ivoire in French because this country speaks French. He has 60 different languages like mother tongue l language. But the main uh language that people use there is French.

So my first language is French. And one thing about this country, this country produces um uh fifty percent of cocoa seed in the whole world. We use cocoa seed to make chocolate.

So well there you go. I did not know that. I learned something about the Ivory Coast today. And so, in your own. story, how did Operation Christmas Child impact you?

Okay. So like I said, I'm originally from West Africa. I grew up in a Christian family. My father was a pastor. My mother was helping him in the ministry.

And they had four kids, and I was the third one. We used to live in a church house. It means like our house was close to the church and we didn't have a lot of money, but being together was the most beautiful thing we had. Until one day, I saw many people coming to our house and they were crying. I didn't know what was happening.

And I asked my mother, she told me, Your father, you went to heaven and we're going to see him soon. I was six years old and I didn't really understand. For me, my father went to another city. He will come back later. But what she really met, my father passed away.

It was really tough. We faced poverty right after my father passed away. My mother didn't have any job and we couldn't stay in the house. We have to move because another pastor has to come to lead the church. We went to the village and over there it was really hard.

You know, when you go to the village in Abricos, it's kind of like there's no hope. You know, we don't have a good food. We have to grow our own food under a hot sun, no good water. And it was tough. But a friend of our father, he used to live in town, he accepted us to come to his house.

So we moved back in town. When we arrived there, my mother was thinking what she could do to have money. And she started to sell blue jeans at the markets. And she was able, out of this sale, she was able to rent an apartment and apply for a public school.

So for us, for me, going back to school, it was something that really changed a lot of stuff inside of me. I was nine years old and hearing my classmates talking about their father. Because sometimes I could hear my classmates talking about the father. They could say, my father's a teacher, my father's a doctor. How about you, Shimea?

Who is your father? And I couldn't share mine. I was looking for my father. And I didn't have some good toys to play with. My mother couldn't afford it.

The only money she had was only to rent the apartment and apply for the food.

So that's pretty much what my mother could afford. And every night we used to do Bible study with my mother. And one night she was talking about a heaven. Yeah. She said, even though we do not see a father in this house, we do have a heavenly father who loves us and cares for us.

And I was looking for a father, I asked my mother. Can can this father could give me a a a a gift like the other kid have? And she told me yes. Go and pray. He can hear you.

I was 10 years old and I went to my bedroom. I prayed a short prayer. I say, Heavenly Father, if you are my Father, give me a gift. And I prayed a prayer. one month, three months.

I then forgot my prayer. And one day we went to church. and we were about to end service. And the pastor said, oh wait, after service, don't let the children go home. We received some gifts for them.

I was excited when I heard gifts. And on that day, I was only expecting one toy. And I thought that when the shoebacks that we're going to receive was for like at least two or three children to share. But God had a better plan for me.

So after they prayed over the shoeboxes, they started to call children's name. And I heard my name, I ran to the front and they gave me a full pack shoebacks. That was something incredible, something that I never received my whole life. I went back to my mother, I taught her everything, and she was so grateful. Because in Africa, when you receive something that from somebody you don't know, it means a lot.

So we definitely saw God in this gift. For us, this gift was coming from God. Because somebody that we didn't even know Sent us a gift.

So my mother was really grateful. And me, I in my shoebox, there was a lot of stuff like shoot supplies, uh hygiene items, but one thing caught my eyes and it was a yellow race card. A yellow wrist car. Why a yellow wrist car? Because I like cars.

And my heavenly father knew that I like cause.

So when I saw this toy, I used to play with that toy all the time. And I realized that I do have a heavenly father. And he loves me, he cares for me, because he touched someone, someone I don't know, to pack a shoebags and send all the way to Africa to me. That is how the shoebox impacted my life.

Well, you could say that. What an amazing story.

Well, we're so blessed to have you on the show with us, Shamia. And we're going to get into a whole bunch on Operation Christmas Child. Of course, we've got a lot to cover on this amazing book, which is along the lines of the same thing, right? Seeing the people achieving a better world one life at a time. It sounds like God is doing that in so many different ways.

And we come back, we're going to share that. And of course, we got to play shenanigans. It's all coming up. We got a boot camp to give away. Free boot camp to Georgia next week.

Oh my goodness. It's an opportunity of $250 value for some lucky listener to go to Masculine Journey Radio boot camp. Stay tuned.

So much. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion, uses it to build the kingdom.

So blessed today to have with us Shamia Uh Nogusan with Operation Christian Child as well as Bob and Vicki Fox, who are the authors of See the People Achieving a Better World One Life at a Time. And so speaking of See, as promised, we've got to play shenanigans.

Now the fun begins. Oh yes, and for all my guests who probably never heard Kingdom Pursuits, y you wouldn't know that we always Give our listeners a chance to win, but first we have a little fun with my... Um Dad riddles, I guess that's a good way to put it. Would you call that dad riddles, Nick? Yeah, I would call it dad riddles.

Dad riddles. There you go.

So. Here comes our first riddle. Feel free anybody that wants to chime in on this one. We got Randy, we got Nick, we got Bob Vicki, and Shamiya.

Okay, so a pessimist sees a dark tunnel, an optimist sees a light at the end of the tunnel, and a realist sees a freight train. What does the train driver see? A target? I don't know. That's a pretty good answer.

He sees three idiots standing on a track. It's like a target. That's pretty good.

So. And this is an old one, but I really do like it. Why do you never see? Because we're talking about see the people. Why do you never see elephants hiding in trees?

Because they already have a trunk? That's good. I like that. That might be part of the equation. Yeah, I was going to say something about a trunk, too.

You were you? Yeah. Well What I've always heard is they're really good at it. Uh It'll come to you in a minute. And that trunk may help them blend in.

I don't know. But yeah, they're really good. And this happens to be probably one of my favorite jokes. To tell on the air, probably in the last two years. This is how much I like this next joke, so just be prepared to laugh.

Alright, so what does a Tibetan monk say when he sees the face of Jesus in a tub of margarine? Mm-hmm. Yeah. A Tibetan monk sees his face, the face of Jesus in a tub of margarine. What happens there, Nick?

You got any ideas? I haven't. I'm lost in this one. How about Bob? Bob, you know?

No, I don't. He actually raises his eyes to heaven and exclaims. I can't believe it's not butter.

Okay. Pretty good.

Okay. You got a point for that one. That did crack me up.

So, at the end of those shenanigans, you knew I actually would have a riddle for you to call in and win. As I said, We have a Mask on Journey Radio Boot Camp to giveaway that is coming up in Royston, Georgia at Camp Little Light. It's going to be three days, four nights, three days, however you want to put it. It starts on Thursday. It ends on Sunday at lunch.

If Your man or somebody you know needs this thing, man. What an opportunity you have. All you have to do is call in and answer this question. Who? is the blind beggar In Mark chapter 10, verse 46.

Who is the blind beggar? I even gave you the reference because I want somebody to win this boot camp. I want somebody to come to boot camp. Like it will literally impact your life forever. Mark 10, 46.

Who is the blind beggar? 866-348-7884-866-34 TRUTH. And if they call in and win, Nick, you can tell them again what they're gonna win. Sure. You'll be winning a trip to Mancamp Boot Camp.

Boot camp. Masculine Journey. And I've heard a lot of great things from that. Especially if you have a good stomach. They're food.

Oh yeah, the food is legendary. Not that I don't happen to be the chef. I've heard it feels legendary. Yeah, the food is really, really.

So 866-348-7884, all you got to tell us is who is the blind beggar. In Mark 10, 46. And speaking of blind beggars, um Mm. Right, it's kind of an interesting thing that we don't see the people 'cause we're blind, right, Bob? We are.

I mean, i basically The thing is, we think, oh, well, they're self-sufficient or they're wrapped up in their own life or they're just doing whatever worshiping things, but we don't really see. There's always an opportunity there if you look at them. And see, they do have needs of some kind. They may not say anything at first, but. You want to really dwell in and get to know them and understand where they're at and what they're trying to achieve.

Even Muslims, you know, i it oh they have that prayer burn on their head.

Well, that they're seeking something. And so you have to just okay, so what what do you have to And so You know, it's one of those things that you got to be intuitively curious with people. And you know this in in in your car business, James. You've got to kind of understand where they're coming from and try to meet that need the best you can. Right, right.

It is very similar. We called it the road to the sale, where you. Establish common ground, but then establish what they need and want, right? Right. It is, yes.

And, you know, it's one of the things when you're going into a country that's totally different in their customs. You have to do some research and understand y 'cause you don't want to alienate 'em and and j killed or what whatever they decide to do with you. Yeah. So it's one of those things you have to get really serious about what is it that these people actually believe and how do I reach them. But you may not be able to witness to them if they're in their own country because it's illegal.

But other than that, Yeah, you got opportunities.

Well, we got Jackie Bush. is in Cary, North Carolina. She thinks she knows I hope she does who the blind beggar is in Mark chapter 10, verse 46. Jackie? Yeah.

Pardon me. I'm thinking it is Bartimaeus. You couldn't be more right. Actually, most people refer to him as blind Bartaman. Yes, they do.

Yes, they do, but he's not that anymore. You know it. That is one of my favorite stories in the Bible. Um as it you'll find it in several of the Gospels. Yeah.

But you might remember that, you know, here's this guy standing there. Ask it, and he's the needy guy in the crowd. I mean, he's blind and he's screaming, and the people are yelling at him: Shut up, you blind beggar. Right? Yep.

And that doesn't stop him. He keeps saying, Jesus, son of David, help me. Help me. That's right. That's right.

That's because we we have not, because we ask not.

So he was his answer was his healing was a 100% no had he not opened his mouth. That's exactly right. It's exactly right. And the and the fascinating thing about it, right? If we really understood There is and actually There's another answer I was...

You know. pondering, I guess is a good way to put it. We all are. Yeah. We all are the blind beggar in Mark 1046.

Yeah, by choice. Automatic was blind, not by choice, but we're blind by choice. Exactly right.

So I sure hope you got somebody who can enjoy this boot camp. Oh, wow. That's what the prize is? The prize is a $250 boot camp in Royston, Georgia, next week.

So maybe a husband, a son, a boyfriend. They're going to put you back on hold and get your details so I can find out from you who you want to give that to.

Okay. That's wonderful.

Well, thank you for calling in, Jackie. I really appreciate it. God bless. You're welcome. Thanks.

So getting back to Shamia on Operation Christian Child, like... This is a unique opportunity we have this year. Every year you guys do things a little bit cooler. And so share with our listeners a little bit what you got going on this year.

Okay, so this year, um I had uh many tours, so I was in Texas uh and um I was uh in uh Indiana and West Virginia, so And all that it was to encourage people to c to pack more shoeboxes.

So right now, I think yesterday I was at the shoebox parking party. And most of the time, I use my time to go to encourage people because one of the reasons I believe that why God brought me to the USA is to be a testimony, to be a proof that a result of what people do when they pack shoeboxes. God used these shoeboxes to change children's lives. And me coming here to the USA and be able to travel, to share what the Lord has done, he encouraged people. I've seen many people being encouraged after hearing my story.

So that's what motivates me to continue encouraging people because a story like mine, there is many other stories, many children who have been impacted with Operation Christmas shoeboxes.

So me, even though I do work as a military, I am in the US Navy military active duty. I work as a full-time active duty, but on my free time, I go around, I share my testimony, encourage people.

So this month, the 17th, every third week of November is the National Collection Week.

So we're getting everybody excited and packing shoeboxes.

So pretty much that's the plan we have right now. That is awesome. That is so awesome. And again, we got. There are drop-off locations all over the triad.

If, you know, one of them is at Pinedale Christian Church here, if you happen to be in Winston-Salem. But if you go to Operation Christian Child, you can find on the internet, you know, a drop-off location next to you. They got them all over the place.

So we come back. We got a whole lot more. We got a whole lot more of. Seeing the people achieving a better world one life at a time, and of course, Operation Christmas Child. We got the shoe boxes coming up.

Stay tuned.

You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion. and uses it to build the kingdom.

So blessed today to have with us Bob and Vicki Fox. There's authors, the authors, of See the People, Achieving a Better World One Life at a Time and Shamiye. uh with Operation Christian Child and I said I should have told you uh a minute ago that it is Samaritans Purse.org.

So if you go to SamaritansPurse.org, you can find out where the drop-off locations may be in your area, where you can get shield boxes, what churches are involved. I mean, just millions of volunteers worldwide, actually, 319,000, if I'm sitting here, 519,000. But if you go to smaritanpurse.org/slash build online, you can actually now shop right online and get the shoebox, the gifts, all that stuff as part of what you can do now with Samaritan's Purse.

So, again, you go to Smariton's Purse.org to make all that happen. I had to get that straight before we moved on, Shamia.

So. Um working with Samaritan's purse. What what has How have you seen God in the midst of all that? Just uh to clarify so I'm um I'm a volunteer with OCC. I am uh Far time when I have availabilities.

So And uh on my on the other side, I am in the military.

So that that's pretty much all I don't Full-time work with them is only what's that called, the volunteer, the speaker, and me. Speak as a speaker traveling to go to different churches, to go to shoebox parking, to go to what's that called? Many area when where they talk about OCC, I've seen some great miracles. I've heard some story that I didn't believe. At the beginning, when I came to the USA and I heard about OCC, and it was definitely a miracle.

I didn't even know who sent me this shoebox when I was back home in Africa.

So I came here to the USA and um I was down in my barracks and I heard about, I saw an ad showing the logo for OCC. And when I saw the logo, it reminded me that I have received this box.

So I thought I connected with OCC and they trained me and I was able to go and share this this the testimony. What really amazed me was the other story that I heard. other other miracles that I I heard from other speakers. And it really encouraged me. And that's why I found the love for OCC and I realized how God moved through these shoeboxes.

Many persons that I met were touched to see, to be able to connect to the children who actually received the bags. And one story that I can share, it was a story to one story that I heard from OCC.

So it was a child in Africa and this child he was he didn't have some some shoes.

So he used to walk barefoot, and one day he was invited to a church to receive a gift, and he got this gift. And inside of the shoe and of the shoebo shoe box there was uh uh a shoes instead of a pair of shoes. And the the miracle is that these shoes Perfectly fits you, fits him.

So he was able to have these new shoes out of a shoebox. This is not for me. This didn't happen because it didn't happen by coincidence, but it was God moving through these shoeboxes. And we can see when we go back packing shoeboxes, we pray, we pray that God will answer to this shoebox will be a prayer answer to many people, to many children all over the world.

So God is definitely moving through this ministry. Oh, He absolutely is. And so. Similar question, Bob and Vicki. Again, whichever feels comfortable answering it.

Like. Anytime God calls you to do something, like pack shoeboxes or whatever, He always has a really special surprise.

So, as you were writing this book, What did he teach you or what came along that just really, like Shamia was saying, that just took your breath? Like, man, I did not see that coming.

Well, I think on the good side, it's all it makes you more compassionate for people, just being aware of things like that. And we could all everybody could always use that, you know, just being excellent in compassion for people and just trying to understand and not just discount them off because they're different or they're odd or they're homeless or whatever. You you just really begin to probe into what him, all right, Lord, how How do we even reach these people? And so. That's the biggest thing that came out of it.

There's a lot of grace and favor that comes from it as well. That way. Vicky, you want to add something you want to say in there?

Well, you know, uh, the father desires All people to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. And we pray according to His Word. That he would send laborers across their path and ultimately bring them into relationship with him. You know, and we also call upon the angels of the Lord in conjunction with laborers who've been chosen and picked for this, for certain people, whoever you're praying for. And let the laborers be in the right place at the right time, the right words to say in Jesus' name.

So it gives us permission to do what it takes to lead them into acceptance of Jesus as their Lord and Savior. We have angelic help to help us. And we can charge them to go and move upon their hearts or bring the right labor across people's paths to bring them into the kingdom. Yeah, you know, I. Um taught special needs for 20 some odd years in our church before I was a pastor.

And They were adults with special needs and so someone had Down syndrome. A lot of them weren't vocal. They they couldn't speak.

So we used sign language and those kind of things. And it was fascinating to me in in the process of getting to know each and every one of them that as you began to see them. like, oh my goodness, how they reflected God in very unique ways that they could worship God as only they could worship God. And as they came to a saving faith, I'll give you an example. There was one by the name of Robert, a gentleman recently went to be with the Lord, actually.

Um And and when I first met him, he would never He would always have his fan hands up over his face. 'Cause he was hiding. I'm sure he'd been abused and mistreated, you know, his whole life. I you know, who knows? But he wasn't vocal.

And he and he would sit there with his hands covering his face and it it really wouldn't interact with anybody much. Um, you know, you'd go about the class too, which did, but, you know, this and the man was probably at this point in time thirty five, forty years old. And one day we were doing sort of a vacation Bible school theme of admit, believe and confess. And I just asked, you know, the group with through sign language, essentially, was there anybody there that wanted to receive Christ that day? And Robert was one of the two that day that shook his head that he did.

Mm. which blew me away 'cause you know you you've been working with him for some time and you have no idea what God's doing while you're 'cause he's the one, like you just said, Vicki, that that's an angel like man, I know, okay? But nonetheless, I I was more than honored to walk him through the prayer and the kind of things that you would do as best we could under the circumstances there in that classroom that day. What happened will always blow me away. From that day forward, Robert rarely had his hands over his face.

Robert engaged with it. He had the biggest, sweetest smile you ever saw in your life. And he became my brother. Yeah. And he Was like, man, you know, when he came in the room, he was reaching out his hand, trying to shake my hand.

In other words, I saw what God did Notable difference. in the fruit of of what what changed in Robert's life. Right? And he had a friend named Marius. I saw it in him as well.

And so. What you're describing is to literally, I don't, like you said, the least of these, whoever this may be in your own idea, I can assure you, like you never met a mere mortal. You just didn't. Like they all have that divine image of God somewhere inside of there, and the honor to see that in some way or to. be God's ally and attempting to find it.

It is a spectacular, spectacular thing that happens both through Operation Christian Child, Christmas Child. As well as this new wonderful book, See the People, Achieving a Better World One Life at a Time. You can find both of these at kingdompursuits.com. You can order the book right there from kingdompursuits.com, or you can find out more about Operation Christmas Child, SmaritansPurse.org. We'll be right back with one more segment.

You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion. And uses it to build the kingdom. God never ceases to amaze me as He has done today. with Operation Christian Child and Shamia Uh what an amazing thing that he reached this young man while he was in Africa.

Um And I loved, if you didn't hear the beginning of the show when he told his story about praying because he was an orphan, he had a mother, he lost his father. Um and how God Showed himself to be a father through this box that somebody carefully packed with the yellow race car. I mean, all that stuff, like, man. Like, God, how awesome. Especially if you're the Christian car guy, you love the race car idea so you know it.

It blows me away.

So, Samaritan's Purse has been doing this for so many years. And again, Shamiamai. Children, uh we used to do the crisp the boxes and we'd go up to Boone, North Carolina, where um the distribution center is and man, they just had warehouses and warehouses full of these things. Uh from what I understand, Last year. More than 11.9 million shoebox were collected.

Okay. That's a few children. Eleven point nine million, like Kaching. Um That blows me away. That's a miracle, isn't it?

Yes, it is a miracle because every every year we have a goal and it's really a miracle to reach that goal. And some and there's some years the we go even over the goal that we set every year. And that's the miracle that we see. And he encouraged OCC to continue on doing this because we see God is encouraging people. More people start to park more shoeboxes.

And you see, this big number is like eleven millions of children that they are they have been saved, they will hear the gospel because This shoebox is not only giving uh f a box full of toys and uh all that, but is full of the gospel. the children get the opportunity to hear that Jesus loved them. And we don't know what the children are going through. And maybe these children, they want hope. They want to see that somebody loves them.

And what we're doing, we're planting a seed in every children's life. the seed that there's a gospel seed and we know God will will water it and it will grow and it will come to Christ like me. I only received one shoebox, but this shoebox was a seed in my life. And I grew up and I met Jesus at the age of 18. I got baptized and saved.

So you can see how powerful is the shoeboxes. Oh, it's it's it's spectacular, yes. And so getting back to um Achieving the World One Life at a Time. See the People is the name of the book.

So Bob and Vicki, what was something you wanted to get said today that you haven't had a chance to say? No matter who you have in your life that seems like they're not interested, there's things that you can do to make them interested and help them see what's going on that they're on the road that's not a good road. And so, but you can employ spiritual forces to help in that endeavor. You're not alone. And just one of the things you see is as you deploy laborers into the process You just give God the ability to use whoever at whatever time to do his purpose.

You know, it may not happen like you want it to happen. You know, they probably they may not want to listen to you, but they will listen to somebody else.

So just open up the options, and we give steps to just go through and prayers to pray, to go through the process. And and this really It's it's you know, when you you got eight billion people in the world, And only A little over 2 billion claim to be Christian. And so that's a big deficit there. And so people, the Lord wants them to be saved. Yeah, absolutely beautiful.

And I would add that if you know this would make a tremendous Christmas present, right? The name of the book is Seeing the People. See the people achieving a better world one life at a time. You can go to Kingdom Pursuits or Amazon or just put it in. See the people one life at a time.

Bob and Vixie Fox, you can order the book. What a great way for you to check in to somebody that maybe you've struggled with how to see them. You know, like you realize that God's put it on your heart that you're supposed to be interacting with these people, but you're struggling. This opportunity to to pray into that through you know, some other resources that that Bob and Vicki have worked on through that. And so getting back to you, Shamia, what was something that you wanted to get said today?

'Cause we we've only got a minute or two left that I want to make sure you had a chance to say it. What I would like to say is to Encourage people, and you know, it might be your first time to hear about OCC, Opus and Christmas Chia, or maybe you used to pack shoeboxes. I would like just to encourage you to get involved into the ministry. Jesus told us, He commanded us to go and spread the gospel, make disciples. And packing a shoebox, He makes you a missionary, and you spread the gospel because these children get to hear the gospel, and you are doing God's mission when you pack in the shoebox.

So I just want to encourage you, if you pack one shoebox, pack two more this year and change many children's lives all over the world. That's wonderful.

Thank you again. Shamia, thank you, Bob and Vicki. You've been awesome. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you being there so much.

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