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Now, live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robbie Dilmore. Marriage the messy. The Marvelous. The miraculous. Yeah.
If you're listening today to Kingdom of Rursuits, we have a blessing for you. We have Doug and Nicole Neubauer, and that is the name of their podcast. Marriage, the messy, the marvelous. The miraculous. And I'm guessing that that came from Messy first and then marvelous before it got to miraculous.
It just kind of flowed better that way. Trying to come up with a title for it. And it's like, you know, marriage is a soul full of many things and Yeah, it's messy, it's marvelous, and there's sometimes you get to see miraculous things too.
So, yeah, we'll just throw it all together. Yeah, and speaking of miraculous, you know, I love the way God works and provides me with so many amazing people that in my life. Um, and he did that through a good general uh joint friend of ours, Doug and I, is Nikita Kolov, the Russian Nightmare, whose man up show comes on, you know, right after this show at twelve o'clock. It's 1230, I guess. And uh Doug had attended the man camp that I staffed here a few weeks ago.
And You know, when I think of miraculous, Right. that God would provide an opportunity for men to take a week of their life and dedicated to pursuing the heart of God. Like that men would make that sacrifice. to to literally pursue God for a week with their off time, right? And so every year I get a chance to witness that.
And and Doug was there this time, as was one of the members of my congregation in Kildee Church and Ramzur. Oh my gosh. Um you should have heard. Um Brian's wife. Speak of man camp.
And so, Nicole, you know, I know because I know what a time Doug has. I'm curious from your perspective. Um You gave up a week with your husband. Was it worth it? Mm-hmm.
And it was our anniversary week too. He wa actually that Sunday was our anniversary. It was a miraculous kind of thing. Um We are in definitely a season of growth. And we really don't see God's next step really for us right now.
And I knew that DJ was struggling. And I knew that he needed something. And there's this wonderful book called Love and Respect by Emerson Egrich. And he talks about the differences in men and women. and I've seen that first hand.
I have told DJ things for a decade. And then all of a sudden he shows up at the house and says, Oh, you won't believe what who r what Rich said or what Neil said or whatever And I'm just like Yeah, you know, my eye twitches. And I'm like, I know that men hear it better from men. And I knew that no matter what I told him or what I said or what I tried to do, God had given me my limit, my boundary, and had said, you know, this is as far as you can go. And it was one of those things that we had talked about, well, we're going to go here or there for our anniversary.
And I just sat there one day and I was like, Lord, I just I don't want to go anywhere.
Well, what do you want me to do? And it was like, Look up Man Camp, see when it is. And it was that week. He had already asked his week off from work. And I was like I called him up and I said, Okay, I think you need to go to main camp.
And I really truly believe that the Lord asks for you to obey before He takes you to the next step. And I felt like, you know, we couldn't go any further until he had done his step. And I've got to follow him.
So if he's struggling, I can't go any further either. I've got to stay and wait for him to progress. And so I knew that the Lord needed to work on him for a while. and I knew that he needed that time, and I knew he needed other men, 'cause men treat men differently than women treat women. and I knew he needed that.
That's awesome. Isn't that awesome? I got to tell you, again, it's beautiful to hear that and to see it and fascinatingly. Our anniversary, my wife and I, is on October fifteenth. And so usually, this is the first year in years that Mancamp didn't interfere with our anniversary.
But my wife would tell you something similar. Whether you're on staff or you're attending it it it's still has the a similar effect on you because you're gonna experience what the men are experiencing along the way. And um It i i in God's Working on all of us. I mean, you know, and it's just, it's a beautiful thing.
So, this being Kingdom Pursuits, you know, we got to play some shenanigans. And so, speaking of marriage, now the fun begins. Oh yes, it is. It is. And marriage shenanigans are so much fun.
So feel free, Nick, Randy, you guys are lined up with great answers, I'm sure.
So what do you think is the educational pinnacle of a married man? Like when he is finally, you know, through his marriage, reached the tip. of marital education. This is from Tammy Dilmore's point of view. I would have to say I'll add that to make it even more difficult.
So your chances of getting this are slimmed and none. I'm going to say that I'm so far away from it that it doesn't matter. Uh So, from my wife's perspective, it's when the man knows how to load a spoon in the dishwasher.
Well that could be there, so So Nick, you're single. Like when you go to load the dishwasher, it doesn't matter if it's a fork, a knife, or a spoon. They all go in the same way, right? No. Oh, you you've been taught.
You had a grandmother. My my stepdad is a chef, so he taught me a lot about, you know, kitchen etiquette.
Okay. I haven't had that conversation. It did not go the same way.
So, this is an old one, but it still has a level of humor, not necessarily on topic. But, what's the difference? What's the difference between marriage and death? Do you think of it, Nick? One's quieter than the other.
Well, here you go. When you're dead, you don't wish you were married. Oh man. I told you it was off topic, but it is fun.
Well, that's where some people start. They need to go to a marriage class. And so I did hear of this horrible texting mistake that a man had happened. Um in his spelling when he texted this he put his marriage Almost in ruin. You got any ideas what he texted wrong?
Uh He accidentally texted his wife. I'm having a wonderful time. I wish You were her. Just one little E missing out of the E. Oh, my God.
That is so good. Having a wonderful time. Wish you were her. Oh, dear. Oh, my God.
Back to the death question. He'd be getting a call. That would put you in the middle. And so this one, this one really, you know, just. If 46% of marriages end in divorce, if 46% of marriages end in divorce, what does that mean for the other 56%?
They live in solitude. Close. They end in death. Right, right, right. She had it.
It's fatal. Yeah, so you knew at the end of those shenanigans, I actually would have a riddle for you to call in and win today. And so. Riddle today is what did Adam say about his marriage to Eve? If you know what Adam said about his marriage to Eve.
You call us 866-348-7884. And if you can do that. Nick, tell them what they'll win. Absolutely, yes. You'll be winning a prize from Arcanine Pursuits Prize.
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So Getting back to your podcast. You guys I I'd love That quite often, right, God's healed us so that we can heal others or share the comfort that we've been comforted with.
So I'm guessing that might have something to do with your story, Doug. Yeah, uh we'd have to go back to twenty twenty one. Uh that was the y you know, yet the COVID pandemic started in twenty twenty. It didn't affect us until twenty twenty one. I came down with it first.
And then I don't know how I got it by that time, who knows? And somehow, you know, of course, you know, we sleep in the same bed and unfortunately she caught it. She got the worst case of it. And really yeah, sh I end up dropping her off at the hospital. A county over 'cause our insurance was messed up too.
Yeah, we had the insurance we had, I had to take her over to another county and drop her off there, and it was just It was it was devastating. It was like Whoa. what's going on here. I mean, I can't even go inside with her. Uh Yeah, it w it was that it was that scary and Yeah, I'm keeping waiting for my phone to blow up or whatever or Any time the phone rang, I kinda jump a little bit and Yeah.
Oh push. You didn't get a room till like twenty four hours later. I took her in on a Friday afternoon and and she didn't get her room until Saturday. It was that booked up. And And then Sunday I get a phone call from the doctor and the doctor you know, was explaining that, okay, lab you know, w what the lab results were and how she was responding to certain treatments.
There's we hadn't turned a quarter and we hadn't turned the corner. I had I was diagnosed with COVID, double pneumonia, a major liver infection. and while in the hospital I suffered respiratory rest.
So I'm going oak boy. Anyway, is this it? And But most of it is God dealing with both of us. I had to lean on God trusting tick, you know, It was testing of faith. You know, I'm trusting God.
You know, I had an accountability partner that was always there for me. The church family was family. you know, to us. Made sure you know we we had meals, we had whatever we needed. Yard is mode.
Yard got mowed. Um Mm. I was still out. I was just starting to go back to work. and you know they were very understanding, you know, if I had to leave or whatever.
And then Yep. I think this kind of stemmed out of what God kind of spoke to Nicole during that time, too. And I want to turn it back over to you. Yeah, Nicole, what did God speak?
So getting back to you. You actually had respiratory arrest, meaning you stopped breathing. Yes. I woke up in it. Um, I was dead it was the most deep sleep I'd had in a long time.
Um, going back, um, when I went into the hospit I'd been in the hospital twice at that point, and uh your Oxidation is supposed to be like nin high ninety is a hundred, that's normal. Uh the alarms when you're on the machine and being monitored, eighty five. Mine was seventy three. Thankfully, I didn't pass out during all of it. The Lord uses everything.
When I was very young, I had a lot of bronchial issues and bronchitis, and so I knew what was happening when I couldn't breathe. A lot of people who had those issues, that first little twinge, they don't know what it is. I knew that I couldn't breathe. And so the Lord was preparing me. And so I was in a deep, dark sleep.
I woke up. to a nurse. I couldn't open my eyes, but I heard her say, Breathe deeply in through your nose and out through your mouth or it's slowly breathe slowly in through your nose and out through your mouth. and she just said that over and over and over. I tried.
I couldn't. I went back to sleep. And uh when I was Back asleep, I heard the Holy Spirit. And he told me I take away your breath, I give you back your breath, anything I tell you to say, you say it. And that stems from I'm a natural people pleaser.
And so what had happened was I ended up The Lord had taught me, you know, that he needed to be pleased more than people. And so when I ended up. Having that conversation, there was a lot of anxiety before I'd gotten sick, and there was a lot of people pleasing, there was a lot of trying to be nice, which means. Agreeing with people? doing what they want you to do.
and at the very least not disagree with them. And so for me, being able to say, Okay, I need to do what the Lord says more than anything else, that was the most important thing that I needed to do coming out of that. And so that's kind of the way And to kind of finish up the thought so that the Lord could definitely use me, I was given steroids during the respiratory arrest and a little bit after. And my family doesn't react very well to medication and so I was manic for 23 days. Followed by two weeks of the deepest, darkest depression I've ever had.
Again, the Lord had dealt with a lot of that. He had prepared me. I knew exactly how it was going to work out. five months before I could laugh. Just that's for me, that's kind of my indicator of where I'm at.
Laugh, just a natural laugh. And it took me about a year to get to the place where I was balanced a little bit. Um Mania. was wild. Uh, 23 days, uh, I would sit and and okay, first and foremost, my worship was off the chain.
I miss I miss that so much because you just don't care. You're just like, okay, Lord, let's go. Um But I also had, um, I only slept three hours a night, and I'd get up in the morning at three o'clock in the morning and just listen to the Holy Spirit. It took me about Three to five days to even realize that I somebody asked me, Well, can you ask the Lord something for me? And I was like, Oh, it never occurred to me to ask him anything.
I was just listening to him. Uh So it was one of those things that I really felt like the Lord was talking to me. It's one of those things some some of it was me.
Some of it was who I want to be and some of it was the Holy Spirit. And in the midst of that, I turned to DJ and said, We're supposed to go into marriage ministry And of all the things I saw talk, because I talk a lot normally. Mania's next level, right? I talked a lot. Uh that was the one thing he heard.
Marriage Ministry. And so afterwards, when I was still trying to get balanced, he's like, I Marriage ministry makes sense. And I was like, oh, okay, that's what you okay.
So It's one of those things sometimes you have to listen to each other when you're doing things together and say, Okay, what's the other one feeling? And how's the Lord speaking to them? And so that's kind of the way we've gone into it. And it's one of those things. We have not had a five-year plan.
We don't have a we have a mission statement, but not like This year we're going to do this, this year we're going to do that. It's been more along the lines of.
Okay, Lord, we're taking this one step. Wow, you that was... incredible. I mean, just absolutely powerful. And so So much in my mind, one I'd want to relate, but I guess first I'll start with What I heard you say, that Holy Spirit said, was, I take your breath away, I give you breath.
Do you say what I tell you to say. Mm-hmm. So You're processing that with the Holy Spirit at the moment. You know, you're. I'm unconscious later.
Right, you're unconscious. You're asleep. But you're hearing this, and you actually memorized it. I mean. He gave you, from my standpoint, miraculously, the ability to remember what went on because it was important and he knew that it would give you some guidance to why he's giving you your breath back.
And I didn't understand it at the point. Uh I didn't understand that I had respiratory arrest. I didn't find that out until quite a bit later reading um medical records. Right. Uh I literally thought I was having a panic attack.
But what What when you heard him say that, the Holy Spirit What did you think he wanted you to say? No clue. You didn't know. I did not know. I it was one of those things, okay.
You just obeyed. I just accepted it. And then that's when I went back to sleep, you know, kind of thing. And so I had a brain abscess. I had lymphoma, and then they did brain surgery, and I had this.
horrible brain abscess that almost took my life and as a result, guess what they gave me? to to take the swelling down in my brain. Steroids. And so I'll never ever forget my.
Well, it's the stuff of Dilmore Legend, okay?
So they took me to my kids, who were small at that point in time, and they were having a game of... coach p or pitch baseball or it was no, they were pitching. And the boy would not. Throw any strikes. Like it was impossible for him to, so he just pitched and pitched and pitched and pitched.
And as I'm sitting there losing my mind. Right in the stands, and it's a little league game. These kids are eight, nine, or whatever, right? And Robbie, who has at this point in time what I would call a bozo cut, right? Because where they took the hair off to do the brain surgery, right?
And my hair is sticking out like this. Oh, wow. And so, you know, here comes this madman onto the field. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Like, and I'm screaming at the boy. Like, if you don't throw a strike, I'm going to eat this grass right here. Like, I cannot take it anymore. I'm going to eat this grass. You know, and they're trying to pull me off the field.
And everybody's like, well, he's had brain surgery. He's not okay. Yeah. So when I heard you say that, it made you mad. Like, I can so relate.
I was actually diagnosed with steroid-induced mania. Oh, yeah. I'm. Like, man, whenever somebody says we're going to give you, I'm like, no, no, you're not giving me that. You don't understand, man.
This is not going to go good for the people around me if they do.
So I, you know, I digress, but when you said it, it just brought up those memories: like, man, this is hard stuff. Hard stuff. But we'll be back with a whole lot more: Marriage, the Messy, the Marvelous, the Miraculous. How fun. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com.
Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom. And today we're so blessed to have with us, I call him Doug, she calls him DJ. I know he prefers DJ. I feel badly that I have not referred to him that way. No, it's fine.
It is. Your family. Your family names. DJ. My family calls me Doug, and.
Since junior high, friends and acquaintances call me DJ.
So. DJ and Nicole Neubauer, right? And they are the hosts. Of this amazing podcast, The Messy, The Marriage, Marriage, The Messy, The Marvelous, and the Miraculous podcast, which, by the way, if you go to kingdompursuits.com, you can see a link right there where you can get it. on um bus route and uh You know, how how amazing.
So you you heard the miraculous miraculous. onset of it and you know I don't know how many of you ever watched the movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, but there's this amazing song. Randy, did you watch it? I'm just saying. Chitty, chitty, bang, bang.
Okay. That When the guy is trying to make the Model A fly, you know, he sings this song, From the Ashes of Disaster Grow the Roses of Success. Do you remember that?
Well, this is what I'm hearing. Um But yeah.
So she says, in the midst of what was obviously a very, very, very trying time. We're supposed to get into marriage ministry.
Now that seems a little counterintuitive. Because I was, I had been at that point. I'm always a peacemaker. And for me, that meant, okay, and I struggled with. this concept that I thought mad is bad.
So I wasn't allowed to be mad. And so with DJ, when I would get mad, I just wouldn't tell him.
So he didn't know half the time if I was mad or not. And oh, I laid it all out. I said, This is a problem, this is a problem, this is a problem.
So he got it all So you had about twenty two years of buildup that flew and there was a few things, yeah. That was specific, that were very and we've talked about it on our podcast, but you know, it's one of those things, I'm like, this is a problem. This is a major problem. You might want to go get the podcast and make sure you get those early episodes. I mean, I think episode number three is how God used COVID.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. For you. Right, DJ, you Okay, so she tells we're going to do marriage ministry, and some of the mania things were just kind of. You know, you're gonna get fired, but it's okay.
We're gonna go hit the road and we're gonna go do marriage ministry. I'm like. I'm going to spin out of the parking lot. It's going to be great. This is going to be fun.
Don't worry about it.
Okay, disclaimer, I I am not a pastor. I am not a clinical psychologist, psychiatrist. Neither one of us have theology degrees. No theology degree, n uh no, you know, uh therapy uh Counseling? Counseling degrees or anything like that.
Yes, I worked at EMS and kind of had the street therapy going on, but It was like, okay, and there was only one... Couple that we were familiar with that did marriage ministry. And that's Stephen W. Wilson from Marriage Matters Now. And I was like, well, then I'm thinking then I get into the bad thing of comparison.
Steve's a master's degree and and He has done in in coun Christian counseling and stuff like that and I'm like Okay, what are we gonna do? And so we just kind of sat on it and We continued to go to, you know, Steve and Debbie would come to our church for marriage weekend, and we started going up and we went to The great ridgecrest for the Great Marriage Getaway they have up there every October. But then God kind of started showing me, he's like, okay. You go to the breakout sessions. And then afterwards, we'd sit there like.
Could we What can we add to that? Or how could that have been better? Or you know, liven that up or Or what about if we talk about this topic and stuff like that?
So it was just like, okay, now I'm kind of seeing how we might be able to be used because the people doing the breakout sessions were like us. You know, it didn't have the fancy theology degrees, clinical counseling degrees, or anything like that. Jump ahead. Twenty 23, my job was sending me to another state.
Well just prior to that I thought about starting a podcast for our men's ministry because a lot of guys worked during that time and we were. And another radio station they had their, you know, all ladies talk. And okay, where's the bro talk or the dude talk? And I'm like, we probably need to, maybe that's what I can do. And sub you know, saved up some money and I bought a setup.
to do uh a podcast.
Well then I find out I'm going to Alabama Six months turned into ten months plus. And so it's like, well, you know what? We're gonna be down there together. Let's start a marriage one marriage podcast and Nicole encouraged me 'cause it's like, okay, but it's our story. Our story may resonate with other people.
You know, we're everyday folks. We get up, we put our pants on one leg at a time. We, you Yeah, I go to work and you know she's an awesome homemaker and And so trying to Think about what do we talk about. You know, yeah, now it's then that was mostly 2023, and most of our bulk of our episodes came out of that. And then we came home and then.
Back to the Brian sort of speak, oh, now we got, you know, back involvement in church. And then my job had me going here and there and working 60, 70 hours a week. It's kinda right now we're kinda this weird Position because now we're involved in a church plan.
So That's how we kind of Fathoming and of course going to man camp, that that was a all men need to go through. Um that was an experience. But It was a divine appointment for me and you apparently, Robbie. Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah, 'cause I remember giving you a card with our information.
Well, do you have this, do you have that? I'm like, Not yet, not yet And I'm like well we're not even sure we're going to continue that, but obviously we might be continuing that And that's what we've been praying about, you know, Lord, what are we what do you need us to do? Because I mean, like, even the church plant was literally, we had no intention of going there. We're it the church plant's about four miles from our original church. And so we're like, Well, we'll go over there and help them out a little bit, but you know and then it was kind of like I'd been praying about it and I'd been reading and they were talking about the dedication of the temp Solomon's Temple and it was seven plus seven.
I said, DJ, we could do it for 14 weeks and just see if that we have a place there. And then all of a sudden he we we're set signing the covenant to help them out. And he's like, I don't see 14 months on here, so we're at a year plus. And I'm like, Okay, I don't know where that came from. I was like, okay.
Somehow I. My translation from her to me was weeks turned into months and I'm looking at this thing like there's six months, there's one year, one year plus. Seven, seven, fourteen, fourteen is greater than it was months, right? And then it was, all right, I guess we're going to we're in, in for a penny, in for a pound.
So it's one of those things we had no intention and just the doors just kept opening and the doors kept on shutting where we were at.
Well, I love, you know, get back what the Holy Spirit said. I mean, I'm going to give you this breath. Mm-hmm. Right. I take away your breath, I give you back your breath.
Anything I tell you to say, you say it. And in Hebrew, you know, this idea is in a fesh. You may know that you've heard that. Right? And this idea of the life breath that God gives us And Yeah.
Okay. There isn't an expert on marriage anywhere. Except Jesus, okay? Yes, yes. And so, you know, I think.
That, like in so many different ways, your experiences through. The struggles. Yes. Right. Or what give other people hope that they can relate.
And when I, you know, you think about those breakout sections, you've started to see where the rubber met the road when these guys really started talking. This is what marriage is really feeling like amongst people that are out there that are willing to open up and talk about it authentically. Right. Say, this is what we're really facing. I mean, this is what this really feels like.
And, you know, this is... And there's seasons of life, we've definitely talked about that on our podcast, there's seasons in life where all you're doing is keeping little people alive. And that's all you can do. Little people being children for them. Yeah.
And there's seasons in life, let me assure you, where all you're doing is keeping your parents alive. Yeah, exactly. You're running to that too. And you're doing sometimes doing that together. We did.
We did. We did. took care of both our parents. And You know, that was But then there's seasons and so, you know, it's kinda neat that as you do life, with the people in your church, with the people i in marriage, right, then you were connected to other things that obviously It it's like me. I I you know.
My wife said, We're going to teach special needs ministry. And I thought, well, what can I do to bless them? Yeah. And they blessed me. Yeah, exactly.
Right? And that's. That's kind of how those interesting things work.
So we come back. We're going to hear more about marriage, the messy, the marvelous, and the miraculous. And certainly, I feel like I've been through a miracle just listening to this story. I hope you have. And we'll be back in just a moment.
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So I'm curious. Like you started this podcast and you started doing episodes. Did you notice one episode had some impact and people started making mention of Like and what was that done? Probably episode three, How God Used COVID, had the most hits on it. I haven't gone back and do done any uh the American Elsa sign and the the rest of 'em And we may have an uptick on one where we interviewed our pastor and why because he didn't do the traditional I've called the ministry it.
Teenage years and go through Bible school and the M. Div and all that. He was.
Well, we have a very large church too, so he mentioned it. He he was using it in his sermon.
So that's that hat got a lot of hits. But he was all time he didn't he what he did is talk about his marriage. Yeah. Yes. And how that decision to go into marriage, go into ministry.
impacted. And their marriage. And they actually thanked us for doing the podcast because it reminded them how God worked through all that. Mm-hmm. They enjoyed that reminder.
And the kids didn't hear the whole story until they listened to the podcast. They weren't familiar with the whole story. Yeah, isn't that amazing that how easy do we forget? That there's three. Yes.
involved in the equation of marriage. I love what you said. I don't know if you said it on the breaker, if you said it on the air. that the that the psychiatrist was interviewing you and you stopped in the middle to pray. Yeah.
And she said that you were a I meant I I stopped mid sentence. Because I was like, okay, I need to pray about this one. And she said you were Hypervoid. What did she call you? And Because you stop to pray.
Well, And I and I heard the Holy Spirit. That's the thing that really got him. Is it an audible voice? Is it telling you anything bad? I'm like, no, it's all good.
It's all good. Everything's good. You know, and they were like, are they telling you anything anything bad? No. And I was like, and I remember thinking, Well, that's a stupid question.
Of course it's not. It's the Holy Spirit.
Well, let me just say and and you know, I obviously Been in radio for a while, maybe not obviously, but I have been for quite a while, and I get a chance to see a lot of people, and I get a chance to see gifting, right?
So. You know, some people are gifted Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. To do that kind of thing, to be able to share their experience. And I was kind of curious, and I bet you Nick noticed this, that.
or whoever is handling her volume. Is that When she started out, she started off kind of low. But as time went on, man, she started and. Let me just say, and those of you listening, I find this more than fascinating. If you were to look at a sound wave, which we see in radio all the time, we.
We record sound waves. And so they're so nice and beautiful, but if you talk to somebody and they're nervous or they're not. the the first time on the radio. The sound wave is very tight and it's and it's it's very sh short. Mm-hmm.
But once the Holy Spirit begins to speak through them, you will see this. It's completely clear that the amplitude goes up. And the width gets wider. That literally he becomes your voice because he's breathing right through those vocal cords. And you know, I see it in in those who know Stu Epperson, my boss, like you better get ready on the volume when all of a sudden something gets him because he he's gonna be off and running and I and I just find it amazing and I just want to Say how cool that God gave you.
this podcast. It said, look. You have I gave you these gifts, okay? He gave the guys the gift to go get the MDiv and all that, but did he give him a gift to speak? Did he give him a gift of being able to hear the Holy Spirit?
You know, like all those were gifts, right? And so we got an opportunity to use those gifts. And don't be shocked when other people don't hear it. Oh, yeah. But you know, that really tore me up.
You know, I remember telling my grandmother, Oh, I said you know. you know, that's why I got labeled that and she's like I remember her face just just fail and she said, Isn't it so sad that some people don't hear the Holy Spirit? Yeah, it it's beyond sad. But what's What's beyond cool is that God was using you now to help people to hear. And Doug?
You've experienced the same thing. Oh yeah. I like the buttons and the knobs playing with them. I'm a closic A V nit geek, I guess. And Right.
Do you think that was just an accident? That all that was attractive to you and you wanted to buy podcast equipment? And do you think that. Like, hmm. Was this a coincidence?
Or was this a pulling that God had that you just didn't know? I didn't know it was a pulling. I just thought it was. Me at first, but then I realized that God's using both of us, and marriage is a It is a team effort. And you can so wonderfully get to go listen to that again.
The name of the podcast is Marriage, the Messy, the Marvelous, and the Miraculous. If you go to kingdompursuits.com, you can get the link. I'm so grateful you guys made a long trip to get here from South Carolina.
So fun to have you here. Thank you for having us today. Thank you for having us. And now let me just say that we're so glad that you tuned in. You got.
Encouraging prayer coming up with James Banks, Mast on Journey at 12 o'clock in Sparta, and man up. She's coming on at 1230. Thank you for listening to the Truth Network.
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