Huntin' The Truth

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866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. You know I live in Montana and it's fall in Montana. Do you know what that means? That means hunting season. We've just wrapped it up I believe bow season and now we're getting ready to go into rifle season. And I thought, well who better to talk about this and what's going on with all things hunting than these two guys who have a great program for this. They're twins and they are hunting for God.

And in the process they are inspiring, entertaining, and just taking a lot of folks on a wonderful ride of learning things about life, outdoors, hunting, and more importantly a walk with God. And that is Chad and James Hampton. And you know what? I don't know which one is which. They're twins. And you've probably seen their show.

And I'm on the radio so I can't even look at them. So I can't tell you apart vocally. I can't tell you apart physically.

So I'm just going to let one of you just always say hey this is Chad or this is James. But guys I am glad to have you on the program. And I will tell you I'm not much of a hunter. I'm learning to be. I have four brothers who are all hunters and fishermen and here I move out to Montana and they're looking at me and thinking why are you out there?

And we're not because they all live back east. But I'm learning how to fly fish and then I've got a buddy of mine that's going to take me elk hunting next month. So I've been told. We live way up in the Rockies and I walked out of my house and there's a five by five buck right in my backyard. I mean he's just looking at me. He's like 15 feet away.

If I had a rock I could have hit him. And so I thought you guys this would this would mean something to you all to of where I live and what I get to do here. But I wanted you to introduce yourself to this audience and talk a little bit about your story. So I tell you what why don't we go with let's go alphabetically. Chad let's go with Chad first. So Chad tell us about you guys and tell us about your program your TV program Twin Factor. Yes. Thanks for having us. We really appreciate it. It's a blessing.

Yeah. James and I we have Twin Factor TV. We are on the audition direct TV on TCT Network Saturdays at 7 p.m. And also the Dove Network and KCH TV 11 which is based out west. It's all audition direct TV but our show started back in 2015.

We were asked if we'd ever considered having an outdoor television show as twins because there wasn't a set of twins in the outdoor industry that had a show. And we said yeah we'll consider it. We don't we don't want another faith project. We we already had a ministry at the time on the truth ministries and we were really looking to start a TV show when we prayed about it. And as we prayed we came across the verse in Genesis 21 26 that stuck out to us it says let us make mankind our own image and likeness and let them rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky. And so very interesting it was kind of enlightened to us and it's what that says in that verse is God to let us make mankind as a twin to us as twins. And that verse means father father son and the Holy Spirit so we it says let us make mankind in our image and likeness twins to Jesus and let's let's give them a purpose. And so we thought man it's interesting and so that's the reason why we created twin factor TV with that name obviously we're twins and we call it factor because the word factor means to have the impact on the outcome of something. And we thought it was fitting that we're twins and we trademarked our slogan be the factor because what we not only have a show name to in factor but it gives us the opportunity to teach when we go out and speak that we're all made in the image of God in his likeness.

And he's given all of us a plan to go out and be the factor have an impact on the outcome of other people's lives. And so that's how twin factor got started we started on the pursuit channel for two years, and we were on hunt channel, and then we were on a streaming platform through coven when coven hit, it kind of slowed down everything TV wise so we kept twin factor TV episodes the first few seasons on a streaming platform. And then, as of this, this year in June we started airing audition direct TV on five different Christian outdoor networks. Well, this is marvelous James, what is the favorite hunting activity that you like I mean there's all kinds of different hunting and like I said I'm going to try my hand at elk hunting here next month, but I've never done it before I've got like brothers and family members that just that are rabid doing and they're looking at me just thinking, and I didn't tell them how much my elk tag was because it would cause them to stick. So I would say deer hunting is is probably my favorite we've been deer hunting since we were seven years old our father took us out hunting with him bow hunting when we were seven, and so we've loved deer hunting a bow hunting since then so so bow hunting is probably our what we like to hunt the most and then Turkey hunt right behind that for me.

I love the Turkey hunt as well in the spring. And then we love to hog on as well we we travel south a lot for ministry we're down there all the time there's a lot of hogs down there and it makes for good TV. So we'd get the hog hunt a lot as well we we haven't been out west yet actually if we tell everybody. If we go out west and we hunt too much out there we, we want to stay married so we can't. We can't hunt too much. But we are, we are going to go out west here coming up pretty soon we have a good friend of ours that lives in Arizona, and we're going to do some elk hunting and some different hunting coming up soon we are, we are full time in the ministry and TV now so we are going to have a little bit more time.

We had full time jobs all the way up until a few months ago, along with our TV show and our ministry for years so we're finally in to the point where we can go full time and we're going to have more time to go out west now. Well last year, I was about this time last year I was out on horseback. And I was coming down. We're up about 6000 feet. And we're backed up to the National Forest I was coming down this one draw and it's pretty pretty gnarly where I was. And I came on to bull spikes.

And then I heard a third one bugling. And I gotta admit, guys, I did get a bit of the fever. When you're out there doing that on horseback and I mean, you know, I'm, I'm out in a place where there's not a lot of people have been.

And it's just, it's extraordinary to be able to get outdoors, be with the Lord and and think through the things and see his creation and, and I love, I love to eat elk I don't hunt for trophies I hunt for food, and I love to eat it. So listen, we're going to talk some more with you guys when we come back. This is Peter Rosenberg and this is Truth Talk Live because I want you to hear what these guys have done with this ministry.

It's not just a pastime for them. It's a ministry. We'll be right back. Don't go away. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger.

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Go take a look at it. PilaWays.com We are talking with Chad and James Hampton. They are hosts of the show, Twin Factor. And they are also the co-founders of the ministry, Hunting the Truth. Now, it's not hunting the truth. It's hunting the truth. Is that what I understand, Chad? Yes, yes.

Even though I live in Montana, I was raised in the south, so I speak fluent southern. And I understand hunting the truth. You guys, when you created this, what is your primary mission with this? Because this is a great title for a ministry, and what is your primary mission with this? Yes, so the mission of our ministry—this is James, by the way—the mission of our ministry is to use hunting in the outdoors as a vehicle to share the gospel wherever we go.

We get to travel all over the country, and we're going to be traveling internationally here pretty soon. So that's the mission. That's a pretty broad mission. But we have three different parts to our ministry and how we fulfill our mission. We have a speaking ministry. We speak at any event that is hunting-related or outdoor-related.

We speak at a lot of wild game dinners, prayer breakfasts, youth events, men's events, men's conferences. We even do Sunday morning Camel Church services. They call them Camel Church services. Pastors will have us in on a Sunday to their church, and they'll plan a hunting-themed service for Sunday. They'll invite as many people as possible, tell them to wear a camel, and then they'll have us in, and we get to share our Hunt in the Truth message.

We do those. We call them hunter's gatherings and hunting camp weekends. Ministry leaders and Christian hunters will have us into their area. We do a hunter's gathering on a Friday night where we share more of an evangelistic message on Friday. And then on Saturday, we do a seminar on our book, Secrets of the Hunt. And then on Sunday, we preach a Sunday morning Camel Church services.

We do those all around the country. And so we have a speaking ministry. We started speaking in Christian private schools as well and public schools. We do a lot of speaking in the school systems now as well with our Hunt in the Truth message. So we have a speaking ministry. We have a media ministry.

We own our own production company called Twins Media. So we produce content, Christian content and hunting content that we produce, and we get it out. We call our Hunt in the Truth outdoor online community. We do devotions. We do different devotions and different things on social media. We do sermons and different things as well that we produce and we get out on our social media.

So we do that. And then we have a hunting part of our ministry. We focus on taking youth out hunting who do not have fathers and also physically challenged men, women and children.

That's the third part of our ministry. Just real quickly, one of the things we get to do, that we've gotten to do over the years, the first year of our TV show on the Pursuit Channel 2015, we had a sergeant major from Fort Benning be one of our episodes, and we were taking the youth out hunting on that episode. And he asked if we would partner up with them on Fort Benning to start the first gold star hunt for the kids who lost their father on active duty. So we traveled down there to Fort Benning and partnered up with them, and we filmed the first gold star hunt, and we got to film the kids, guide them, and we got to, of course, share Jesus with them when the opportunity opens up. But we put that hunt on our TV show as well. So that's just an example of some of the things we get to do in our ministry. So we have a speaking ministry, a media ministry. Of course, our media, our twins' media produces our show, Twin Factor, and then we have a hunting ministry as well.

So our mission is to use hunting in the outdoors as a vehicle to spread the gospel, and those are the three main ways that we fulfill our mission. That had to be deeply meaningful on those gold star hunts. Yes. James, what was that like for you? Well, it was a... Wait a minute.

That was James. I've got to go to Chad. Chad, what was that like for you? Oh, if we had to rate the top hunts that we've ever done, period, in our hunting career, those hunts would probably be right at the top because, like you said, it is the most meaningful. We can't do enough for the gold star community. One of the great things is we get to guide them, and we get to take them out hunting, and we do put it on the show, but we get to stay in a relationship with them.

The kids that we first took out on the very first gold star hunt now are graduated, and some of them are in college, and we've gotten to see their growth and stay in relationships with their family, and they've been through a lot, so we can't do enough for them. So it's at the very top of our hunting highlights in our career, for sure. When you take out special needs family members to hunt, because I've been involved with a lot of folks who do this over the years, and it's amazing. Gracie and I have worked a lot with wounded warriors that go out and do some hunting. What are some of the things that you've seen that have really touched your heart and inspired you with special needs hunters? I'll let either one of you take that one. Yeah, this is Chad.

This is Chad. So I'll tell you a hunt that we took a man out on. When we first, well, toward the beginning when we first started the ministry, we took a man out who was healthy at one point, and then he contracted a blood disease where he had to have both of his arms and legs removed, amputated. And we took him out on a deer hunt, and they make this, we call it a contraption, so I got a V-table where you set the gun on the V-table, and the butt of the gun goes against the chest, and they can aim it with their chest. They can move it back and forth, and there's a tube that goes from the gun up to their mouth, and they can blow into that tube, and it pulls the trigger for them. And we took this man out on this hunt, and a butt came in, and he aimed that gun himself and blew into that tube and shot that buck and killed it all by, pretty much all by himself.

And you could see the hope on his face after that happened. You know, a lot of the people, the people that we take out in our ministry in wheelchairs and those types of hunts, they don't feel like they have a purpose, and that's one of the greatest things that we see, and we love it. Oh, I love it. I love it. We're going to talk some more about that when we come back from the break. This is Peter Rosenberg, and I'm talking with Chad and James Hampton, the co-founders of Hunt the Truth. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberg.

I'm glad to have you with us. 866-34-TRUTH, 866-34-TRUTH. We were talking in the last block with Chad and James Hampton. They are the founders of Hunting the Truth Ministries.

I want to say Hunting the Truth, but it really is Hunt the Truth Ministries, because there's no G, and the co-host of Twin Factor. I was listening to them talk about taking a guy who's a quadruple amputee, and I do a prosthetic limb outreach. Gracie, once she gave up both of her legs, she wanted to reach her fellow amputees, and we put legs on people and tell them about Jesus.

They literally go walking and leaping and praising God. We collect used limbs from around the country, and they go to a prison in Arizona run by CoreCivic, and they partner with us to disassemble those limbs. We can use a lot of the parts on a prosthetic limb, not all of it, but a lot of it, and we'll ship it over to West Africa. So if you have a leg of someone that you know, or you've outgrown as you're an amputee, or we'll take arms too, but we mostly deal with legs, please go to standingwithhope.com and click on the prosthetics tab on the top right, and it says donate a used limb, and give the gift that keeps on walking, okay?

We'll take it. If we can't use it, nobody can, but they'll strip it down. These inmates volunteer to do this, and they'll strip it down, and we can go all the way down to the screw level, the feet, knees, pylons, all that kind of stuff, and we'll do it.

So it made me think of that, guys, so thank you for what you're doing. I want to ask you a question, both of you, and you can flip a coin and see which one of you answers. I can't tell you apart, but no, I kid you.

I got a buddy of mine out here who's an outfitter, and he called me up one day, and he said he's got a son with profound disabilities, and he outfits, and he's just a rabbit hunter, and he said, you need to spend some time around a campfire, and he's not wrong, but I want to throw that out to you guys, because I know that probably some of the better ministry times you've had have been around a campfire. Is that a fair statement? Yes, this is Chad. Yes, it is.

That is a very fair statement. That's actually, you know, we hunt, and we film for a TV show, but our ministry is based on relationship, and the best times we've had in ministry is after we've hunted, after we do the stuff, we sit down with people around a campfire, and we talk about hunting God and His plan for our life. That's another mission and really a statement that we teach when we go out is how to hunt God and His plan for your life. Hunting obviously is the basis of what we do, but the word hunt and the word seek in the Bible have the same definition. It means to pursue after, and so that's part of what our book Secrets of the Hunt is based on also, is we have eight secrets in that book that teach people not only the secrets on how to be successful in hunting animals, but more importantly, how to hunt God and His plan for your life, and those same secrets that make you successful in the field will also make you successful in growing in your relationship with God and then finding what His purpose is for you and plan is while we're here on this earth. So, yes, we do a lot of talking, just building relationships in general, but also talking about God and how to hunt Him. Yes. James, what's a scripture that you keep coming back to as you've launched this ministry and the relationships you've built, what is a scripture you keep coming back to that kind of defines who you are and where you feel like God has been leading you through all this?

Yes, so that's a very good question. So back in 2004, I was deer hunting here in Michigan, and I was at a point in my life where I was just frustrated. I was looking, I was searching for God's plan for my life, but I just couldn't find it. I couldn't put my finger on it, and I had some stuff going on in my life that I was just very frustrated. I was kind of, I tell people I was hunting for my own plan at the time, and it just wasn't working out. I got frustrated. And so my wife was diagnosed with cancer, and I just had a bunch of things going on that just wanted to go my way. So I was deer hunting one night, and I told God, I said, God, I'm done hunting for my own plan.

What is Your plan for my life? And as I prayed that night in the tree stand, I heard God share with me in my spirit. He said, I want You to hunt for me like You hunt for these deer, and I want You to teach my people to do the same for the rest of Your life.

And I always carry a little camel Bible in my backpack when I deer hunt, so I grabbed the Bible that night as the night went on, and I opened up the Bible, and I opened up to Psalms chapter 14. And I was reading that chapter, and in verse 2 it says that God looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand or any who seek God. And earlier in the early segment, Chad explained that the word hunt and the word seek have the same definition, so me being a diehard hunter, I take that word hunt and put it in that verse, and that verse says that God looks down from heaven on the sons of men, which is everybody, to see if there are any who understand or any who hunt for Him. And it was like God was telling me, I'm looking for hunters.

God's looking for hunters, not necessarily just hunters after His creation, but He's looking for hunters that want to hunt for Him, want to seek Him and pursue Him with all our hearts. And so I knew that that was confirmation of what I felt God was sharing with me in my spirit. And so I called my brother up, and I said, when I got home that night, I said, Chad, I believe God spoke to me in the tree stand, and He wants us to start a hunting ministry called Huntin' the Truth Ministries, and it comes from the verse, John 14, 6 is another verse I read that night. That verse says, Jesus answered, I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh to the Father except through me. So I told Chad, I said, I believe God wants us to start a hunting ministry called Huntin' the Truth Ministries, it comes from John 14, 6, and then I shared Psalms 14, 2 with him, and that verse is what actually got Chad and I to write an outline of our book, Secrets of the Hunt. We wrote down the outline and the eight secrets that God gave us about hunting deer and hunting him, and it turned into a book, and it was published in 2008. And so Psalms 14, 2, to answer your question, Psalms 14, 2 is the verse that really started Huntin' the Truth and started everything for us, and that's the verse I always go back to, and that's one of the main verses that we share when we speak everywhere.

I love that. Chad, if people want to find out more about you guys, get engaged with you guys, have you guys come and speak, all of the above, what's the best way for them to do that? You can go to www.twinfactortv.com. Our website has all the information that people would need to book us for an event, also information about the show, the ministry, and the book. It's all right there on the website, but also on YouTube, Twin Factor, we have all the episodes that air on Dish and Direct TV. There's a lot of people out there that don't have Dish and Direct TV. They do a lot of streaming, so we put all our episodes on YouTube also on our Twin Factor page, but twinfactortv.com is the main hub of all the information, and then we're on all social media platforms, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. We're on X, so they can interact with us on social media and also visit our website.

Wonderful, and I will, when I put this out on a podcast later on, I'll put all that stuff and link to you guys in there. I've got to ask you, we've got to go to a break here in a minute, but before I let you guys go, do you ever go pheasant hunting? We used to pheasant hunt every once in a while when we were growing up. That was back when there was a lot of pheasants around in Michigan. Most of the pheasant hunting that we have participated in in the last 10 years have been our youth hunts that we do for our ministry. We have a couple pheasant ranches around locally here where we live, and we used to do pheasant hunts, youth pheasant hunts, every year.

We don't do them every year now, but we do those whenever we have the opportunity to do them. I want to try it. I've heard it's a lot of fun, and I'd have to go to Eastern Montana or the Dakotas.

I am going to try it, and I'm going to just do this slowly because I've never been able to do this. I've been, for a lifetime, been a caregiver, and I still am, but now that I live out here, and I've been out here for several years, I'm thinking, why am I not hunting more? We've got this thing out here in our little town at the end of this month. It's called Hunter's Feed. People put together booths, and we go around and taste all these wonderful recipes. I think some people are just cleaning out their freezers, I'm not sure.

Don't hold me to that. I've had some of the best food out here with elk, moose, pheasant, all kinds of game. It's just wonderful.

I thought, I need to be doing this more. I've got a pheasant that hangs out. We don't have many where I am now, but there's one that always hangs out right down here by the road. He'll come out and see me about this time of year and talk to me.

No, he doesn't talk to me. I've heard it's a lot of fun, and I hope I won't look like Tim Waltz when I'm out there doing it. I don't want to elm or fud this thing.

I'm going to learn. Like I said, I have four brothers who all look at me and scratch their heads. My one brother is thinking he wishes he was a twin at this point so he could use my tag. I kid to all the Fish and Wild Game people that are listening, I'm kidding, it's a joke.

It's a joke, don't take me to task on it. Chad, we've got to go. James, we've got to go. I want you to know how much I've enjoyed this, and I'd like to have you come back on, okay?

Yes, thank you so much. Chad and James Hampton, yes sir, you bet, twinfactortv.com, twinfactortv.com. This is Peter Rosenberger, this is Truth Talk Live. We'll be right back.

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This is Peter Rosenberger, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. You just heard that segment from Johnny Erickson-Tata, and I want to wish her a happy birthday, 75 years. Her birthday was this week, it was the 15th, I believe, and we celebrated with her Saturday evening in Thousand Oaks, California.

I flew down and joined a host of folks there to really have a fabulous time with her. I've had the privilege of being friends with Johnny and Ken for many years, and I can't really describe the profound impact this woman has had on my life, and then Gracie's, and that we get to be friends with them. Gracie has sung a couple of duets with Johnny, that's on Gracie's record, and then Johnny, on her latest record that she cut, she cut one of the songs that I wrote, and you can go out and hear that, it's called I Can Only Hold You Now, and I wrote that with a friend of mine back in Nashville, and Johnny, just incredibly inspiring.

Ken wrote the foreword to my book, Hope for the Caregiver, and Johnny mentored me through writing some of these things, because she's written, I don't know, 10,000 books, I mean she is so prolific. It was just, it was remarkable, because for somebody with quadriplegia to live to be 75 years old is extraordinary, and it's not just living to be 75. You understand, she was hurt at 17. So, she's been living this 57 years now, is when she got hurt, and she is, she's just an anomaly when it comes to this, medically speaking. Gracie was hurt when she was 17, she had her car wreck when she was 17, Johnny, of course, I think most of you probably know the story of her diving off that dock. And for me, the hit of the evening, I listened to two individuals in particular share, and one of them was Doug Mazza, who was the CEO of her organization, Johnny and Friends, for 20-something years. He's retired now, and he has a son with profound disabilities. And the other was Steve Estes, who really mentored Johnny when she was still a teenager, still brand new to this difficult reality of hers back in the late 60s.

You've got to remember, she's been in that wheelchair since Lyndon Johnson was president. Does that give you some perspective? And Steve Estes is a well-known pastor and author, and he wrote her book a step further with her, her sequel, and then I think one of the finest books on suffering, which is called When God Weeps, and he wrote that with her as well. And I would highly recommend that book to you if you're dealing with hard realities. If you're not dealing with hard realities, I still recommend it, because I think we're called as Christians to be present in the painful things of other people. And if we're not showing up and being able to grieve with them, mourn with them, just sit with them, and be able to point them with clarity to Christ in the middle of their hardship, then I've got to ask you, what is our faith all about?

What good is it? And that is, I go back to Jesus' own words, sick, naked, thirsty, hungry, present, stranger, and he's pretty serious about it. And we're going to have to look him in the eye, and he's going to ask us about this. He said, this is what it says in his word. And I listened to Doug share stories about Joni, and I will share one with you that was just profound when Joni found out she had cancer, that she's gone through a couple rounds of breast cancer, and had a pretty rough journey of it.

And it's one thing to do that, it's another thing to do it as a quadriplegic. And she was in his office at their ministry headquarters there in Agoura Hills, and Ken knocked on the door, he said, and came in and said, I just heard from the doctor, from the test results. And Doug got up to excuse himself and to leave, and said, I'll give you guys a moment.

Joni said, no, you stay right here. And so Doug stood there, kind of trying to make myself part of the wall, and Ken said, Joni, you have cancer, and here's what we have to deal with. And the doc says this and this and this, and she was very quiet for a moment. And the room was very quiet, and then Doug related the story that Joni said, God must be up to something really big. God must be up to something really big. It's an extraordinary statement.

And Doug asked her, she said, how can you make such a statement? And she said, look at what he's done with my paralysis. Imagine what he'll do with my cancer. That is from someone who has a clarity of the gospel.

And so I ask you and me, let's ask ourselves here, do we have that level of clarity when faced with very difficult things in our lives? God must be up to something big. Look what he did with this.

Imagine what he can do with this. And it goes back to that great hymn that I love so much. I won't go over to the caregiver keyboard without me.

Do you know that one? Oh God our help in, that's the caregiver keyboard by the way, I just slapped that together. But, oh God our help in ages past, our hope for years to come. Our shelter from the stormy blast and our eternal home. Do you know that hymn?

If you don't, spend some time with it. Oh God our help in ages past, do we recognize that thus far the Lord has brought us and he will see us. And we sing that song all the time, Amazing Grace. Through many dangers, toils and snares, we have already come. It was grace that brought us thus far and grace will see us home. Do we believe that? Christian, do you believe this?

And if so, would other people know? And I look at my own life, I look at the work that Gracie and I have done and I'm inspired by my own wife who gave up both of her legs. She relinquished them. After many years of struggling to save them and her surgery count is over 86 surgeries now that I can count.

And she's had a pretty rough go of it since she was 17, since Ronald Reagan was president. And yet I see the faith and I see the strength and I see the clarity of thought that she has of trusting God. And Johnny's, the message I heard from Steve was just parallel to Doug's. These two men who have known Johnny and worked with her so closely for a lifetime as we celebrated her birthday.

And it was really powerful. And I treasure my friendship with her and Ken and I, you know, we've wept together. There have been times when we have had moments in the hospital together via FaceTime when Gracie was in a very, very difficult place and Johnny would, I got her on FaceTime, I said, look, I need you to help me out here because it was a tough thing and Johnny would sing to her.

And then Gracie's done the same and sung to Johnny and these two women who have almost 100 years of disability between the two of them to build one another up. And so I ask you again and I ask myself this, Christian, what do we believe? Do we have that type of clarity of thought that we can sing in the midst of our heartache, that we can praise God and build one another up and point another to Christ? I'm never comforted by people saying they're there to me.

Not one time. I've been doing this for a long time, but I am always strengthened and comforted when people come to me and help stiffen my spine to point me clearly to Jesus, to say, let me tell you about the saving power of Christ. Let me tell you about the gospel. Sing them over and over again. Wonderful words of life. You know that hymn? That's a great hymn. We've got to sing life to each other. Sing life to each other.

Speak life to each other. Our country needs it, our country's counting on people and things and elections and everything else to somehow bolster our spirits, but no, the only thing that does it is the gospel. And I've got to hear it every day.

I have gospel amnesia. I have to hear it every day. I did a song on my CD, Songs for the Caregiver, and I put on there, I need thee every hour. And I put that on there because nobody's written I need thee every minute yet. I've got to write that song because that's a great hymn. I need thee every hour. I need thee.

And friends, I would tell you that we do. And so I would encourage you, and I thank you for listening to this program. Thank you for listening to this station. And I encourage you to listen more.

And if you have questions, if you have any comments about this, if you have any thoughts on this, if you're struggling with stuff, go out to my website, peterrosenberger.com. I have a thing called caregiver 911. If you're really hurting right now, particularly as a caregiver, you're taking care of somebody.

You got an alcoholic or an addict in your family. You got somebody with Alzheimer's. You got some special needs child with autism. There's a starting point for you right there on my website. Would you take a look at it? And I also encourage you to reach out to this show. And you can contact me if you've got a question or something.

Just go ahead and contact me from there. We're about, as Christians, we're about lifting one another up and pointing them to Christ. Okay? That is our highest goal. And what I heard from Johnny when she spoke at her birthday, again, it just oozes out of her. There's so much gospel on her.

And I thought, what a model. What an individual. And may we do the same. I want you to know how much I do appreciate you spending this time with me on Wednesdays. I won't be here next Wednesday.

I will be in Nashville performing at a funeral for a dear friend of ours. And you can, but we'll be back in a couple weeks. Okay? This is Peter Rosenberger. This is Truth Talk Live. And we're so glad that you joined us.

Go to PeterRosenberger.com. That's R-O-S-E-N-B-E-R. G-E-R. And you know what? Healthy caregivers make better caregivers. We'll see you next time.

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