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It is No Secret

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger
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July 4, 2021 3:00 am

It is No Secret

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger

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July 4, 2021 3:00 am

Sometimes the simplest phrase from a song serves as a source of help, comfort, and strength. In this episode (from our nationally syndicated broadcast) we talked about this song and how caregivers can appropriate it in our lives. 

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Do this show is all about hope. The conviction we as caregivers delivery, healthier. There are salable joyful life wanting here. Someone who deals with heartbreak. You maybe you taking care of an aging parent. A lot of people are maybe you're taking care of a child with special needs. Maybe you've got somebody near circle that is dealing with alcoholism or addiction. All of these are chronic impairments. There's somebody different types of chronic impairments. There's always a caregiver.

And that's why we do the show. 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 if you want to follow along and also you can if you will call showed if you were followed on live stream were out hope for the caregiver on her Facebook page and you can go out and check it showed laugh. It will probably drop off because Facebook and I have a long standing argument when I live stream the show and we get into a battle of wits and I find that they are unarmed and so I IVF if it drops off drops off. Sorry programming a real quick if you want to go out to our webpage and hope the caregiver.come you can see our latest podcasts is my interview with William Lee, Golden of the Oak Ridge boys gets booking for those you much along the camera and it is a wonderful conversation that he and I had had this week and amazing life. Those of you who follow the Oak Ridge boys for any length of time.

He's the one with the beard and the book is called behind the beard, and I think you'll like the interview a lot.

There's a lot that we put in this and other podcasts we can unpack conversations and and interviews and so forth a little bit easier than I can sometimes on the show here, but I and I wanted to have this conversation with them in and see what some of his thoughts and about his life. His music is faces falls his recoveries and all kinds of things and in it I think you like the interview so you go out to hopefully and see that I want to jump right into our song for today and if you know this stuff over here to the caregiver keyboard.

I have now stepped to the caregiver and those you Regulus is so know that I do this, which every week via a him usually are or some tops on the skull to connect to us as caregivers and played I want you to tell me if you know what the song is and I will give you a hint on this one that the guy that wrote it action once ran for president. So that's an obscure hit, but you may get but here's the here's the thought, you know that to unit eight 589-8840 888-589-8840. Feel free to give us a call on that. I let me tell you story about a former who raise chickens and maybe will raise chickens, but this farmer is heard that if you if you play some music. He was concerned that his chickens were not necessarily produce enough eggs as we heard if you play music for the chickens, then that would help them lay more eggs. So he was a flautist. He had a flute and when upset by the chicken coop and played his flute and did this for a while and you know and then he would go about his chores get into it the next day and it again. This went on for several weeks and he noticed however that the chickens were not produced any more eggs. But he still can't do it and he kept planning to play. We had a neighbor that was watching all this, and the neighbor came to him and said hey are you chickens lay more eggs than what does he do this.

He says now you going out there every day in your plane you flute you doing music and in the in the startling rate why he do it because my music to get better as caregivers we live with individuals who endure things we cannot change. We cannot improve we cannot fix it.

We cannot take away, but we can change we can grow. We can adapt and along the way, we may discover that we make beautiful music and we experience beautiful music. Not what we expected. I live with someone who's whose legs are. I can't fix it is way beyond my skill set power effect.

All the surgeons that have worked on her can't fix it but I can change as a cure for and I can grow as an individual and along the way, I discovered that there is beautiful music. It's a great date of make music as we sit there and and and except certain realities that that are beyond our abilities. How many of you all are in the situation where you have thrown everything you have you tried as creatively as you can to somehow fix the situation or change or improve. And it doesn't I know folks in relation with alcoholics who have thrown in attics with ropes so much money at this going to rehab and and everything else and doesn't change this, beyond your ability is her point where you can maybe change up you and the way you are approaching this and recognize maybe your responsibility. This is not to fix this individual would just for you to trust God in it.

There's a great Scriptures. I love Mark nine is without me is one of the best prayers ever uttered in Scripture and Jesus of the business father. The child brought brought him to Jesus and the kid was heaven.

I think it was demonic possession sums going over the kid was pretty messed and Jesus said to him, if you believe all things are possible to him who believes that again is not the amount of faith that you have is the object of our faith. You know that my faith, it itself is is pointless unless my faith is in Christ you know I can have faith that in a chair that amine is going to happen and things will happen and Jesus said if you can. If you can believe the implication is belief in what I'm telling you and me and the power of God in this.

All things are possible and the father child is said Mark cried out and said with tears, which I think is the best prayers also made this resident Lord, I believe, help my on and that a great prayer Lord, I believe that's our journeys. We believe will be asked to help our unbelief all things in ways this is a keg of the Spiros murder. This is 888589 you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became it. I questioned why God allowed something so brittle to happen to me.

But over time, my questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ.

The source of my help and strength, please visit standing with to learn more and participate in lifting others that standing I'm Gracie and I am staining with help and you forgot how to get that it's one proceeding that she's done and season one voice. I love loveless nursing 888-589-8840 888-589-8840. Now I've got a bunch of folks want to weigh in on our song for the day. Now if somebody else gets a song I still want to hear from you don't just have to you don't immediately hang up because I want to hear why you think this sounds important. What is it mean to you the there's a reason I do this every week with the hymns and the songs and sometimes a chorus or whatever and several about one of first off, I help reintroduce these to folks who may not have heard them in a while and and miss them. I want to introduce them to a new audience that would benefit greatly from the Sam's and then also because so many of these have a lien or a phrase or a melody that is so easy to remember that in the dark times throughout the day throughout the week when were not on the show together here when we were struggling in the middle the night. You remember that phrase and strengthen you can give you a little bit more clarity on your next step over and so that's that's what I'm that's what I'm hoping to accomplish. Next up over meaning taking the extent not passing over into eternity.

So as you going through stuff like like I did. He touched me one week. You know, and so I want you to go through the day as you struggle with these things and if you remember that and he touched me. All he touched me and oh the joy that floods muscle will that's what I did with this on today if you can member nothing else but that lyric from that particular phrase.

It'll absolutely anchor you throughout the day.

I know this because it does it for me and and in my circumstances and of any caregiver 35 years so I know this and I would you really want this for you as well so that that when you get in these dark moments that you if you can do nothing else but just remember that that's why put on on my CD cells for the care of put on the when hymns are put on it was Jesus loves me and did this with a friend of mine on his trumpet and and I want people to just remember the women were so busy carrying our loved ones to Jesus.

Do we know that that we need him ourselves.

Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so, yes. He loves my wife loves me to any loves you and here's how we know this and here's what this means to so I'm trying to introduce these these things for us. Let's go to David in North Dakota. Good morning David how you feeling, good morning. I'm house whether North Dakota well right now it will down and we had a good rainstorm. Perfect timing for the crops and we are doing great here. Well I said so that rain sin that rain West because over here in Montana. We are we are little bit dry and we could use it so not not feeling very good about our fire season this year because we need some rain but I will get in the lower grades on the causes rain on the just and the unjust and so we were just content ring but I'm glad you do it well of the North good. You know the song pressure pressure children when they pray well no that's not it is not. That's not it, David. I'm sorry it will have some kind of sad trombone plan want law, we don't have that. That's not it is not it. But I want to go but I want you know how much I appreciate you listen that you calculus is easy with the song as a member.

The guy that wrote it did run for president. One year away back in the 50s. He didn't go very far but he did run and he's written several other wonderful songs.

But this is what is probably his biggest one, and this is the course, but let me go to thank you so much for the call, though, David. I really do appreciate it and let's go to Fay in Texas Fay good morning are you feeling daring well known for the shape I'm in, I'm in pretty good shape for this day. Know the cells where it is no secret what God can do. It is no secret what God can do what he still didn't do that. Is it that is a great great lyric for us as caregivers to remember in those moments when we are so discouraged. It is no secret what God can do what he's done for others, he'll do for you.

With arms wide open heel part in the art is no secret what God can know who wrote it.

Yes, the bonus question. You know who wrote it. Fay it was.

Did you know he had run for president.

Now I want Alec to shop our technical rate.

Our family no matter that I wanted Bracket. It can, I have been thinking far your clawlike pal. 28. My thinking me will that's very, very kind of you say so. Thank you. I will throw a lot of that credit of my cords and it might be under Prof. John Arne from Nashville Tennessee who I still stay in touch with he was buff young professor in college and he taught me how to better play of the sign. I like to change up the cords because I think it gives a little bit more texture to the song and then helps us better connect with the cell because sometimes people with a clunk of a song you know they'll and I hate that one. It's a great lyric listless. Take your time with it. That's a major seventh chord that I throw in the five over four and then the here's 1/4 here flatten and so I just want more texture and then hopefully then will anchor the song better in our lives you know and and that's that's why I do what I do and I love to take these hymns.

These old songs and give them a little bit more little bit more mustard on them.

If you will, and sometimes a hot sauce but but not to not to get so inside musically that it loses the texture of the saw that the point is the melody and one of the things that my professor used to instruct this duty still does play the song with one finger. That's it. Just by the Miller one finger as it is at first and played as expressively as you can with one finger and and for pianist that is almost torture. That's a lot of work because were so used to all of her fingers going. But when we do it with one finger, it teaches us the importance of that melody and how to better get the melody to sing and then we do everything around the melody and and so that that's that's his philosophy don't think it's worked out pretty well now what they can play an end of do you play at your church or anything yet and explain that I thought I'd make a pregnant different I write, I share this, but there also times when I'm when I'm so discouraged life that all I could do sometimes go to the piano and play and I don't I don't have the words and I'll just go through the handle whatever and I'll just play weekend and it helped settle my heart down and I cannot wash it is David. David set that stage for us way back when he would just sit up and sing and play out the wilderness will take tending sheep and and and I think that the music of Hans Christian Anderson said the where words fail. Music speaks and live but I love that and so music's big part of my life and I thank you all for indulging me while I played the cells because I feel like that they will stick with us and I'm hoping that fellow caregivers listening to that will go through the day or the week and and when things get really gnarly.

You say you know it is no secret what God can do what he's done for others healed for you you if you could just hold on that lyric with arms wide open heel part in you. It is no secret what God can do and that is that that's that's why do the cells that their wonderful songs that we have somehow allowed to get too much dust on them in our churches and so forth and and it's it's time to bring them out and and speak introduce them with some some clarity and and maybe some some better courts it. I used to kid my pastor back in Nashville up as play one of those flat nine cords and you know and I was doing that in that I looked at it and he was he was walking across the front. There is for this I will play as people were coming in and I whispered to Blessed you know I get thrown out of some churches for that cord right there.

If you would start laughing and to let you know I I love I love these hymns and and thank you all for indulging me and in faith, thank you very much. Forget the so what are your family and your why I might need a product like milk. Thank you very much for that already, this is Peter Rosenberg. This is hope for the caregiver and the song is it is no secret. Do you know that it is no secret what God can do what he's done for others, he'll do for you.

With arms wide open heel part and you. It is no secret what God can do and I think that that say a very appropriate so for us this is caregivers to to hang onto it it it all starts with our with our relationship with God. You can try to do this is a caregiver on your own strength is unsustainable.

That's 35 years of experience is unsustainable and once you understand inexhaustible start to engage with inexhaustible love and grace and mercy of God through Christ, you are strengthening with waste go back to rear their father similar more of your calls will answer you want to show this is hope.

Five and a host by caregiver all about strengthening the family.

Healthy caregivers. Just that simple.

And if you are torqued in your own heart that you're just so full of tension so full of eggs so full of fear and dread.

How in the world you go to be able to do to care for another human being.

To do this to to to sustain this over time you can't and it always starts at the heart level. If your heart is a train wreck. Guess what the rest of you looks like it's only a matter of time before your wallet, your body, your relationships, your profession in all of these things collapse on the street so we start on this show on the heart level of understanding these truths in God that Scripture lays out of how to navigate through these very painful realities without collapsing through fear or despair or or getting herself so worked up over rage and resentment and these are things that that affect us as family caregivers. I was talking with someone last night and and they were discussing go the way we interact with loved ones, and so forth and and they had a someone who was dealing with alcoholism and it she said I don't know whether I should yell at her or or Faucette or or whatever nested step back for just a moment alcoholism.

This disease of addiction has overtaken this individual and you can yell and you can shame them. You could berate him you can do all those kinds of things, but you might as well be just argue with diabetes you know what, I guess it's if you take it out of the behavior issue and look at it from a from a impairment issue or disease or affliction issue.

It should understand the concept will be more my wife missing both for legs. I cannot argue with amputation. It would be stupid and inappropriate for me to in any way malign her for not being able to to walk in a normal manner because her legs are gone and we could wrap her mind around, but when you're dealing with the behavior issue.

Somebody was mental illness or somebody who has a an addiction. We want to help, just shake them and and and help them snap out of it and just make a better choice on not understand that we can't with this is beyond us and we get ourselves all worked up thinking. Somehow we can we can go in there and fix this thing that we can't go back to the story I had with the former playing the flute is targeted the chickens lay more eggs they can label any more eggs. With the flute or with anything else. It was just that was it was beyond his control. Once she's done what he can do we give them the food gives the water then chickens had to do what chickens do, but as he was playing a splint for them. He realized he was making better music. He was becoming better at his instrument.

He was change and that's the goal for us is caregivers to realize that there are things that are just way beyond our abilities. Most things in fact, the only thing that we really have control over our thoughts or words or deeds. That's really all we have control of and so if we're so busy trying to force someone else to change or improve or stop acting in a certain way. We are spending all of our time trying to do something that is not ours to do it always comes back to heart level. Look at where we in this with Christ or we understanding the changes going on in our life that is available to us. Can we live peacefully in this. When Elijah after he had had his big encounter with the prophets of Bailey Randy. He fell asleep with the angel the Lord came and brought them something to eat but rested up, took a nap when Daniel was in the lines did he was able to sleep at night. You know, look at the next Mornington told the king hey look real good here. When Jesus was in the boat.

He took a nap. There's a scriptural precedent for us settling down. She's taken to help, just relax a bit. There are things going on around us, and we have no control of. And if you notice on the news in things such as that that that they they have a vested interest in getting you ramped up over something you can't fix it and am keeping us in a perpetual state of outrage where is the Scripture comes along and speaks to us on the spirit level heart level to keep to to help facilitate a staying in a perpetual state of trust in a perpetual state of resting in God that I'm not going to get torqued up about things that have I have no control over and as a family caregiver you understand this in ways that maybe others don't get the opportunity because we live with it relentlessly.

It never goes away.

And so we are we are confronted with this on a daily, sometimes hourly basis on my CD put I need thee every hour. There's was it what you put that on there so because there's no sound.

This is I need the every misfit itself and to go with any of you every hour but but we are confronted with this relentlessly that you either make peace with this or you could go barking bad and you could end up being so filled with resentment or despair that you can't function and I go back to the Scripture today. Jesus said if you believe all things are possible. One who believes human believes the father child cried out and this is our prayer.

This is month that I love this prayer Lord, I believe, help my unbelief. You know and and and crying out to God is in itself an act of faith and it's not how much faith you have is the object of your faith. What are you believing who were you believing in what does this mean Ezekiel 1119 states and I will give them one heart and a new spirit I will put within the motor move the heart of stone from the from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh. In other words, we are being transformed. We are being changed to this.

If we trusted him to do this, and in some everything okay if God will right every wrong that I can be at peace and that is not what Scripture teaches scriptures teach. He is going to write all this. One day they will be done at this things we know this, but in the meantime he's inviting us to trust him as he works his redemption out if his weight in his time in his plant and so once we get a hold of that principle. However, timidly we are we are doing. Once we get a hold that principle that it changes the way we approach the situation is our love ones deal with and we stop trying to force what we think is best on someone else and trust God to work his best in their life and in our life and that's when we can go back to the song that we did today. It is no secret what God can do what he's done for others, he'll do for you. With arms wide open. He'll pardon you and it starts with the understanding of the word pardon, because if you are somehow coming to God think you look to fix this, you know that I'll be happy and God is seeing a greater problem in you there. There is a greater issue in your life in my life than just the angst we feel over our love. However big a deal. It is for dealing with this caregivers. There's a greater issue in understanding his promises, his word, his changing power in that is the starting point.

Gracie and I both tell you there are worse things than amputation. There are worse things than orthopedic challenges.

Our bodies orthopedic train wreck and will both take their worse things there worse things than Alzheimer's and he came to to address that issue. That was the purpose of the cross and then all the other issues will flow from that you track it with me and that's why I pull out these hymns and the songs to help drive that point home in ways that maybe I can't do very well because others have come along and they've done this out a while back several weeks back we did of God, our help in ages past, O God, our help in ages past with that alone implies that that there have been times when we've seen God's provision in ages past. In the in the past, long ago, and we can rely on that and and we look at all these individuals who have walked through these things and were standing on their shoulders.

We have their lives to to to look to then and in the book of Hebrews. It says there's a great cloud of witnesses that are cheering us on. Do you know that there's a great cloud of witnesses that are cheering you on right now as your caregiver. They said that that that that all these things that you're doing were using nobody else is seen seen you do it in the middle the night your cleaning up just horrendous messes or you're taking abuse from someone or you're so tired that you can even stage you know there's a great cloud of witnesses that are cheering you on.

This is the message of Scripture to assist family caregivers in my passion on this show is to say this in a way that we as caregivers can understand this. I didn't have anybody speaking to me like this for the wealth really for the entire church. I've had to aggregate a lifetime of this and try to somehow make sense of it in the caregiver ease, but because I speak fluent caregiver. I'm able to take these principles now and offer them to my fellow caregivers in a way they can understand and this is why we do the show. This is what we do all the things we do because I understand how lonely, painful, how discouraging this is.

But I also understand how and how powerful and how trains the gospel, not as much as I'm going to understand but understood a lot more than just even asking if he is no secret hope. 888-589-8840 will be right. Have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became I questioned why God allowed something so brittle to happen to me. But over time I questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in a Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of death is to point others to Christ. The source of my help and strength, please visit standing with to learn more and participate in lifting

I'm Gracie. I am staining with help and having that any belly.

I got up young men were trying to help, but of you heard Gracie story young men were trying to buy like four over in Kenya. We know the work done continues on the other side of the continent and we can't travel right now with go with him still not receiving the graciousness she's going on like it just washed and so but were still sitting supplies were set up get sick with us going out exit this week coming up here of the got all packed up in a prison and thank you all for the folks who supported the still time. If you want to help support setting these things over. We recycle prosthetic limbs in a prison where inmates strip down and that we use the parts that can be recycled and said that over and then we also sponsor a patient when when the care affordable limb or something even if they're not even in the country.

We work and we try to work with local provider to help sponsor that this is a guy named Godfrey in Kenya and he just was evaluated yesterday.

There send me a report on what is going be to to help him get this leg and if you want to be a part of that you go, what to hope for to see standing with hope and you can see that sports show sport Godfrey sport shipment.

Whatever's on your heart to do. I wanted also about this hope for the caregiver.come and go out there and you see all that there and then will send you copy Gracie CD, just as our gift to you for doing it.

I wanted to bring talk about the lyrics of the verse on it is no secret that we been doing today the chimes of time bring out the news another day is through. Someone slipped and fell was that someone you you may have long for added strength, your courage to renew. Do not be disheartened, for I have news for you to have the verse on that with the child you may have long for added strength, your courage to renew. Do not be disheartened for them news for you it is no secret what God can do what he's done for others, he'll do for you. With arms wide open. You'll pardon you.

It is no secret what God can do. Nancy and Ohio Nancy good morning how you feeling I asked. Well that's great to hear what's on your heart. Monday my head at the end of glory that my mind caregiver for a lot of long years as he was having had conditions that were deteriorating and there were times when I was in the air and on the music secret ballots might get a black thing and an encouragement and strength from for my walk and the path that God had me on and he raised cured me of that so I can't read knowing that I did like God had asked me to do what he did and those you write the songs the supposedly leading lean on and that we cling to were not written in the vacuum they were written by people who wrestled with the same things. And this is where they landed in the second verse on it is no secret. There is no night for in his light.

You never walk alone always feel at home wherever you may go. There is no power can conquer you while God is on your side taking medicine Thomas don't run away and it is no secret what God can do, and that a great text great tag. You know the word every morning when I had my devotion. I want ham I have no right by my Bible and I picked out at least one him and I think that because the words of those old hymns.

There just no lifting of security knowing your hand juicing this morning and found that they have come down through the ages. What did she sing with him to juicing this morning my fellow love that one seen the coarser little slower. This is such a great sustained so many millions upon millions upon millions of people and it was written out of such heartache is written in such heartache and poetry of the other hand, and even that amazing thing.

I often do that if I don't know the tune are my voice isn't doing right now is not doing very well where they would have affected black thing on you staying me with you have a treasure trove that we have almost ignored in our churches today of these hints and they were written out of great understanding and insight. A lot of that a great pain and and yet God gifted these individuals to write beautiful text beautiful music that has stood around for hundreds and hundreds of years and it's not that I'm biased towards things that are written day. There's beautiful things are being written today, but you know I like to cook with.

With an iron skillet quite a bit and one of things about cooking with an iron skillet is that in our skillet require seasoning. You have to season the skillet. You can't just throw it in the dishwasher. Things such as that in and it has to be done well songs of the same way music the same way hymns of the same way that require some seasoning to to go to be able to have that endurance factor. And when you think about you when you estimate what songs you want played at your funeral will they want one of these old hymns you know and and they effect on the interview I did with William Lee, golden in the Oak Ridge boys. I closed out the interview with them singing amazing Grace at the funeral service of George Herbert Walker Bush and they were very close friends with the former president and were asked to sing at his funeral, and you probably saw that on the news and I closed out the. The interview with the recording of them doing that the live recording and just listen to the simplicity of a four-part harmony singing when we've been there 10,000 years, bright shining as the sun, we've no less days to sing God's praise that when we first begun and and I think this is that the message for us as caregivers that we we are going through these very painful painful things I get it, but Scripture anchors us into something eternal in the moment we live in the moment, but we have the perspective of eternity which gives it gives meaning to the moment. So as we do these things as you go through these task that you do weekend and week out as caregivers that you do this if you just hang on to whatever phrase that you can of the music we've done. It is no secret what God can do. You've heard it here from Nancy who did this with her husband and their the days when she was solo, and yet it is well it is no secret. Jesus loves me. You know all these wonderful hymns that we we been playing here on the show for some time. They mean something in the midst of these very very difficult circumstances, and we would ask that you hang on and if you feel like your faith is weak while I've got very good news for you, because Jesus said to this father.

If you believe all things are possible to him or believes in the father cried out, said Lord city cried out with tears, Lord, I believe, help my unbelief.

He is near to the brokenhearted and this is the nature of our of our Savior, and you know I say this often I speak fluent caregiver 35 years. This you learn and speak caregiver I speak fluent caregiver but I had to learn to speak caregiver. It's our Savior's native tongue.

That's who he is. That's who are saving and it is no secret what is done for others may say thank you so much for the call for being such an encouragement to me this morning that is beautiful testimony of your journey in your life and thank you very much for that.

It's it's it's a treat to be able to come to you each week. Thank you for got a special July 4 next week will be all that I got a interview with someone.

I think you'll find very very meaningful and is always more podcast caregiver.come in healthy caregivers see next dispute arose. This is John Butler and I produce hope for the caregiver with Peter Rosenberger. Some of you know the remarkable story of Peter's wife Gracie and recently Peter talk to Gracie about all the wonderful things that have emerged from her difficult journey. Take a listen Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach. Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years. When you go to the facility run by core civic and you see that faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and orange everything when you see all this. What do you make me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands. Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled. Now I had no idea and I thought a peg leg.

I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon lags and flex the sea legs and all that. I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people down walk there, providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What is it do to you. Just on the heart level. I wish I could explain to the world.

What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with that.

I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave.

I don't want to leave them. II feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like that we have a common bond that would've never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers. I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the man that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are. It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that that says so much that has anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people. If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a loved one who passed away or you know somebody well groomed. You've donated some of your own for the did it how to how to do that now. Please go to standing with staining with Thanks Grace

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