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A Conversation With Leeza Gibbons

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February 8, 2021 4:00 am

A Conversation With Leeza Gibbons

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February 8, 2021 4:00 am

Emmy award winner, Leeza Gibbons, called the show to discuss her work in strengthening fellow caregivers. She also stuck around with us to do our (hilarious) "UNHEALTHY and HEALTHY Songs for Caregivers" Bit. 

Check out all that she's doing at:  www.leezagibbons.com 

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Okay, back just do all the rest of very special guest and I hear you. He is just so gracious to do this and was the reason I love having her on here because were both South Carolinians and this is any award-winning national treasure Leeza Gibbons the leases with the only one that has a live keyboard of the best.

I got I wanted my own theme music. John got the music I think you said but that was the play that love however yeah yeah he is very what he saying that I keep the keyboard here to the board would place music sometimes do some stuff that we have good time but we're thrilled to have you. How you feel and I'm really good to get into. I heard I let you work you guys are awesome. Thank you for really appreciate you on. I appreciate that you incorporate music and we all know how important it I do have a question for you guys that occur to me when you are playing. The scary thing greatest theme song of all time. What would you say your vote you okay I really like signature's name.

You know when I like moonlighting El Dorado. I think I your TV viewing right and WK RP in Connecticut yeah great story you want to hear what the unofficial number 120 moving on this knowledge. It is John. For those of you who are under the age of 40. I turn 40 in like five months okay well we got. We do love we do love music in the infected. The bottom of the hour when were finished I would stay as long as you want. John and I can be playing songs that caregiver should never sing and then caregiver should sing when we have a list of okay so it's it's a it's a surprising list that I've compiled with a team of experts grace you you on time to help you get to do something to help you deal with is something know is to help you to state a good head, heart, space and could not go down bad dark emotional places that listing certain songs and also to listen to some others that pump you up and can help you stay little healthier little stronger with more wells like your book. It all just a little bit more optimistic because there's there's some depressing songs and it's a fun list.

We I had a team like us a team of experts.

Me and Gracie was not picked up we could talk, but it's in there.

Some people just they're just so sappy and I just don't want just the one I've solicited a look at look at the message is here toxic enabling something and come on people was listen bullet was to be adults here, but it was that the bottom the hour but we are glad to have you with this.

This is the subject of being the caregivers near and dear to your heart. And for those who don't know your your story which you can you can bring us up to speed a little bit where I got recruited. I'm kicking and screaming like Oliver know I signed up. Nobody raises their hand fell on Eli when my mother got Alzheimer's disease.

Her mother, my granny had to get me and when my granny died. I went at the funeral watching my mother look into the face of her mother in the casket, I was over my mother's shoulder and behind me were my kids and it was that moment I'm not.

I can't escape it in my and on. So it was, it was really that when my like it makes sense anymore. You know like I can keep going to the motion that I not. I left my work. I was hosting a talk show.

I loved everything about my life, but all of the energy of everybody he's ever been there now is when there's a health crisis that other stuff just falls to the wayside. And so I thought okay how I fix my own problem.

Highlight cope with it how I survived and I cannot learn anything. You know that I can pass on, and so that's what that's really ultimately what caused me to up create fully collegiate care connection on hands-on communities where we support caregivers and you know we help you calling your courage and your strength and we do things that you love to do. We do drum circles and a lot of line dancing in laughter yoga and I'm fine empowering positive things you we appreciate a good cry. We appreciate a good good screen we appreciate a good primal exhale on were not to just ignore that range that's going on on but we're gonna get on with believing that you shouldn't have to get up your life because you're caring for someone you love when that's said that's that's the message here on the show's silly people just to spend their life and they say it out out there forget one lady told me she said you know when the father was diagnosed with Alzheimer's that she put everything on hold quit her job and started to give her that well. Seven years later he still alive, and she's bankrupt Ryan bankrupt financially but probably spiritually and emotionally very depleted all all of the above and this is you don't have to. You may have to be flexible you may have to you computer you know and I am and I am all for that. Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape but but but for us to not be financially healthy, physically healthy spiritual mostly healthy. These this is dangerous ground. We got way too many caregivers away when they come into your care connection and I want what you really spent some time talk about this character that you got one in Columbia South Carolina and you get one in Los Angeles correct yet my hometown where I grew up in South Carolina and then my hometown where I am now based for decades on the West Coast so those are our two brick-and-mortar locations.

Although right now, especially that hospital location I you know what these are dark times for everyone. They are little times for caregivers who lost that respite lost to physical identity, their sense of loneliness is now just exonerated their sense of isolation is for real. And so we spent a lot of time as have many others. I'm looking at. How can we keep that lifeline going.

How can we stay connected on me now to provide support so it's more crucial than ever and eat here than ever to Peter and John for people to say or to feel you know it seems so hard to make that phone call came so hard to go to even get a cannot do meeting on sometimes there's just not enough energy are not enough willpower not enough hope not kick to get on with it.

And those are the times when I think we really need to talk out loud to ourselves.

If there was a study just this past week, and one of the medical journals about the best fit talking to yourself and that it really does help give you resolution it has helped give you answers it helps make you feel more powerful in your own life and I feel good about that as much as I did feel good about the poppy studies. It cannot giving me permission for my caffeine addiction talking myself that's really mild mental health 5 miles there, I might not. I sigh I you know absolutely, things like that where we can get you what it feels like a which is it's not outside advice or something like that. But our brains are strange and wonderful things and there are some real benefits to these habits that we thought maybe words are great results. You, for it that you know I my best company and as long as long as we are aware of that track for the negative thought, you know, when you ask yourself is that really true and how how would I feel about myself. If I didn't have this thought, you can usually talk yourself off the ledge when when he shared that quote with me. I don't remember who said it.

Strength isn't about not as much about how much you can handle before you break about how much you can endure after you've been broken and I think that's so empowering to keep that in mind, it can give you that permission to say okay this thing make like me to a certain extent, but you know the real strength is can I continue to endure can I find a way around it over it through it. Can I can I face it, Emily.

When we ask ourselves at those dark moments where you we've all been there. You know how the hell am I going to get through this and the next day you wake up, giving yourself credit saying if this is were you talking yourself out a good job you showed up again.

Great work. You kinda messed up there.

He got a little depressed.

I need a little overwhelmed, but look you're awake today and you get to start all over, especially when you can. For some of the all-time Alzheimer's because they really don't remember that you messed up yesterday but still so caregivers is you is for you to judge yourself. My job performance which we do we judge ourselves without mercy on our favorites so they must be fair and let's judge yourself.

Also on attendance record which is less because we keep showing up and we don't have to show up perfectly just keep showing up when you we may have to cut a break but about that's okay your you're familiar with all the stuff but when you you're so successful you're so optimistic you are Leeza Gibbons was it hard for people to wrap their mind around it. You needed help with. It was hard for you to wrap your mind around that. To then ask for help was it was a difficult thing for you almost impossible in the beginning. It's one of which on most proud that I have developed a skill set that allows me most of the time to admit my vulnerabilities, ask for help and helping to find the strength in action but yes in the beginning I just did what always works for me all night.

I got over busy and I got a net tailspin, because that works to find a solution. I'm more work ethic and have more apply more intelligence, more resourcefulness, let put more energy at great but before any of that works.

You kinda have to admit that you can't do those things by yourself and it was really hard really hard and and and beyond water wings.

That was a huge lifeline. Leeza Gibbons and she she's everybody know she's also made she's also been there. She done she's done that and come back to Roseburg. This is home healthcare. Have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident, leading to 80 surgeries in both legs. They became. I questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me. But over time the questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in a Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ. The source of my hope and strength, please visit standing with help.com to learn more and participate in lifting others@standingwithout.com.

I'm Gracie.

I am staining with help 24 seven emergency support increasing safety, reducing isolation, these things are more important than ever. As we deal with the challenges of cobra 19. How about your vulnerable loved ones. We can always check on them will be there in ways we like.

That's why there's constant companion seamlessly weaving technology and personal attention to help push back against the isolation while addressing the critical safety issues of our vulnerable loved ones and their caregivers. Constant companion is the solution for families today. Staying connected staying safe.

It's smart, easy, and incredibly affordable. Go to www.mycompanion247.com today. That's my companion. 247.com connection and independence for you and those you care about my companion. 247.com copy that out. Hope caregivers.dogs go up there to look so you do that talking with Leeza Gibbons and I were talking about the journey for us as family caregivers you know we we find ourselves in a position where were putting ourselves between a vulnerable of what it even worse disaster.

How we stay strong and healthy. In this while taking care of somebody who is not in. This is what she's all about. She is started some wonderful outreaches and programs and near and dear to me because it what it was in my home state succulent were both South Carolinians and but she's also got a thing on the website. I want to go take a look at the six got a whole series of videos of love for you to see the Singh circle caregiver confessions. She's got all these different topics that if you been a caregiver for any length of time you go to know the sun give a couple of I feel guilty of sleeping poorly of losing my temper.

My family is falling apart of not eating right. I feel socially isolated. I feel resentful and she's hitting the mark coming. Clearly this is the life of a caregiver. And so I want to go out to her website.

Learn more about this Leeza Gibbons.com and then sheet you can get to all of think she's doing through and through that with Lisa thank you very much again for being a part of this.

I would like to talk about those things you do when you start doing the caregiver confessions that takes a significant about of vulnerability to do that. I was at 40 empowering. It was very freeing because we we don't want to put on label as caregiver because we think that means we email our life. If not, would you either have to be Mother Teresa have to be Clark Nightingale and those things on you, but you do have to learn new skills. You have to learn a new way of relating to your world and enter yourself, but you know we can to kind of take that we don't want to put that sweater on sleep, put it on the very top shelf of our kind of emotional closet because we we look at the that the collateral that comes with that in the collateral is weird. If you would like people don't get it.

They don't really and and enter your kind in the club, which is why Kate was so freeing to do the confessions and to be vulnerable and to reach out for help because you realize how this community out there and you get people who don't get you without those are your people okay just not your people so what I really found about exhaling and releasing and admitting when you do find your people and very fifth grade powerful tribe that's not afraid when you say you messed up. It's not that they understand when you say you failed because we do and that that giveth the path to having a better success. Next time so I really have have found that people who come into care connection.

For example, or even that joy not online for our webinars are live on EMR but I live drum circles, whatever their finding there a certain number of people who at least in the beginning will say you know I think that's great that you guys do those support groups and stop near China like a power caregivers. But that's not me like I'm not a joiner I totally get it and maybe maybe in an overall life.

That person will never be what's called a joiner, but really what that is in I'm not there yet. I'm not ready to be a part of this community because of what it means to me because of my own fears because of my own labels of what I put around that term caregiver and it's not like I mean, I'm sure you didn't get a greeting card you will. Gracie didn't get your party thrown for you. Congratulations man, you're doing great as caregiver. This is wonderful first day of the rest your life as a caregiver. Enjoy it. What we do know fruit basket once I this is true story. By the way, what does using the hospitalist until this yoke to listen to, but he is all right, but we were in the hospital and it was pretty rough. Search been there for a while and we got a basket of fruit for bidding him the TV evangelist that the faith basket of fruit from you know you have the bed. They were the faith healer Sichuan dog, but I was very grateful and appreciative really did it was very nice gesture but knows they could you though this is the know we we don't and and and and I will I love what you say about you know we know what we think are set to do to help people waiting to make some mac & cheese back and she thinks sorry you lost, but it's in our in our people do want to reach out. They want to help the one of the things we try to do on the show was help give a vocabulary of what health looks like to caregivers don't know. I mean I speak fluent caregiver of been noticeable to the people don't know and so and I love what you've done on your site where you've gone through and you've just given a voice to this and you know because of who you are me you you you celebrity apprentice winter always come the things you done and I'm in your household name and and you come out and you say here, here's who I am. I mean, I'm more than just somebody who's on TV you know I've got on with this figure. I've been the truck you know and that is very deeply meaningful to folks to say to me to see and so I thank you for that. I got asked you when you open up the care connection and in Columbia. Did you have little refreshments of boiled peanuts as they came in this you like boiled peanuts. My goodness, I think it would be against my religion to I know the I've got people out here where I live in Montana their people. Either they just turned her nose up at that sort of thing I'm looking at them like what's the matter with you people. This is good stuff. Reason why I like I like playing a shell between my teeth, cracking it sucking out the saltiness and then getting to that to meet. She's from Carolina. He sees my people. I just love that in the do you have much for which family do you still have everybody like you because I talk about.

I only think of my three kids and having my values and they do have my values. They had their own whatever they chose to take me there are adults now. The only think of them growing up. The way I grew up.

I grew up in South Carolina. They grew up in LA, they got entirely different frames and their optic sunlight is different there compassionate and hard-working and loving and wonderful quality.

But it's different to my my dad, my brother, my sister and my extended family. Everyone is still in South Carolina and it was really important for me. When we opened our flagship care connection.

There and we have an outdoor pavilion where we do meetings and on Dell guy different things and out and we named it after my dad Carlos given family billions so glad to which we 92 and he's he's on the advisory board and you know he thinks he's he's got caregiver connection that he gets back and he received is just awesome Leeza Gibbons Lisa states of the rest of break and talk about the best were salsa caregivers. The one doing what you need to go to your thong okay Jon I don't talk about this were salsa.

So Lisa Gibbons she is@leezagibbons.com books care connection be a part of what she's doing there it is. So for help.

This is the speed Rosenberger your help somebody walk for the first time I've had that privilege many times through our organization. Standing with hope when my wife Gracie gave up both of her legs follow this horrible Rick that she had as a teenager and she tried to save them for years and if it just wouldn't work out.

And finally she relinquished him and thought wow this is that I'm not ivy legs anymore. What can God do with that and then she had this vision for using prosthetic limbs as a means of sharing the gospel to put legs on her fellow amputees and that's what we been doing now since 2005 was standing with hope. We work in the West African country of Ghana and you can be a part of that through supplies through supporting team members through supporting the work that were doing over there.

You could designate a limb.

There's all kinds of ways that you could be a part of giving the gift that keeps on walking and standing with hope.com would you take a moment ago understanding with hope.com and see how you can give they go walking and leaping and praising God. You could be a part of that@standingwithhope.com as a caregiver. Think about all the legal documents you need power of attorney will, living wills, and so many more then think about such things as disputes about medical bills. What if instead of showing out hefty fees for a few days of legal help paid a monthly membership and got a law firm for life. Well, we're taking legal representation and making some revisions in the form of accessible, affordable, full-service coverage. Finally, you can live life know you have a lawyer in your back pocket who at the same time is empty. It's called legal shield and its practical, affordable, and must for the family caregiver visit caregiver legal.com that's caregiver legal.com. Isn't it about time someone started advocating for you www.dotcaregiverlegal.com on independent associate hopefully here he does know the plays he is as great from her CD, resilient, and just get hopefully caregiver.com will copy that I love listening to her sing good to hear her voice all the time talking with Lisa given's you know or you let some of us have grown up with and she is just a national treasure. Lisa given's.com L EE CAG a G.I. BBO in this.com another's would be to estimate Sgt. and she has so many wonderful resources. Love what she's doing out there with with when she was talking about her, her own journeyman. She just gets out. Sincerely, the couch or chair and just has what she calls caregiver confessions. Take a look at these things because it's so important for you if you're feeling so isolated when you hear someone else who was was sharing the very things that you're feeling it really does help. It does this is 35 years of experience telling you this. It helps, it strengthens you and encourages you, it is it is a tremendous gift that she's done for fellow caregiver, so I'm very grateful her one of the things that we Jon, I like to do is help point caregivers to things that are going to strengthen us and not tear us down and things it make us feel a little bit more empowered a little stronger little healthier and and a lot of songs out there what you listen to, gets into your into your soul is incredibly powerful.

I had several jobs from my wife and one of them was I would do video editing for weddings or for memorial services or for visitations with you have the other slideshow of this person's life. The pictures that they took over the years, or whatever, and when I would be it was necessary to craft this with one of the loved ones, usually bites as soon the music got laid over. That is when the waterworks usually start. I have lots of lots of tissues in my office. Things like it was with the slideshows. I don't play. Weddings refuse to do weddings avoid moral services or I will play funerals, memorial services, my dad's ministers. I grew up doing this lease, and so I was chair of labor for the grub editors and by this you grew up getting conscripted but I did. I did both the old if you do not here since a bit in Montana that it was for a local rancher and they didn't.

They did the slideshow but they did not have you recorded music with. They asked about play Long live with it and I so how long is it is to get Toby ended this guy been rancher for 80 some years out here in this valley. He was the real deal.

The real cowboys and he's they have a saddle his boots. The lariat the whole hat belt buckle all their the front of the church and in a play whether the slideshow and in the sun all said, what's the sunset is only good to be about 5 to 6 minutes. So plan. Five. Six. Will this, they just get go it audit up after stretch and stretch and stretch but at the very in a did this at the very you know it is rolled.

Lisa, do you know what that is now out don't have bills to all my guy just like that.

It was as though the mother played for a real no kitten cowboy rancher that what I would do it. Go to the races. The song, so here's a song that held his powerful music is it's a wonderful song for what it is but for caregivers it's not up is not a healthy place of one of things we do on the show a result we've also included those who are family members of alcoholics are addicts because that's a chronic impairment wherever there's a crack impairment. There's a caregiver mental illness. What so this is a song that the hurt without a grub listening to it then would like listen to it as a caregiver and thinking is this really the message we want. So hit it.

Yes, I can. Yes, I guess. While I own to darkness a depression. If this person is not in my life for this person is not well that I wanted caregivers to understand that that you were. You don't you can have a healthy exuberant life no matter what's going on with them, but I just it's it's not it's not to say that there's not going to be times without a smile.

But what you're saying. I just can't smile without you, like, forever and ever. And that's that is that is a type of death that I at least did we go too far with that.

Now I don't think first of all I love Barry Manilow.

My favorite all-time. I think what you're saying is writing you might talk a lot about guilt that goes along with caring offense and that's part of the feeling that I feel guilty and unhappy when my loved one is having to shocking experience or I can't make my loved one better and so we feel like somehow we don't deserve or we should be ashamed. And I can't smile without you smiling and I like your message there will not well learned, well put. That is learned from a very, very, very good friend is also very accomplished psychiatrist that my job was not to try to have some help smile separately from Gracie will but with when she stuck in the hospitals and so forth. All the things she's going through. My job was to make sure I went out and brought the smile back to her. And no, sorry, that's my hairy alarm system going off with the snowplow. I but I bring the smile back with me to her and an offer that to her to help her because she couldn't get out of the hospital.

She couldn't get out of pain and all the sink so I could bring it to her. If I'm not so tour target. The next one. The next one is is one that I did just on principal just on principal for the song hit it. I just just on principal just don't think this is just a test just get rid of it just be done with it. That's about art and the number one song that I think is a caregiver.

You should avoid if at all possible.

Is this what you know. I just I think that this is the wrong message. I just just in the same way you I can't smile without you all about, well, that's our that's what I was, the things not solicited by. Here are some things that caregivers could listen to and that I think will be very help healthy for you to listen to. So it hit this one go all caregiver loud in your car. Our yet I here's another one. Here's another that I love hidden when let it be Lisa.

What is that will save you always always want to get to the finish line and get that Goldstar make it better. And that's not always really loved that you chose that one because having state that there will be an answer and let it be like going get over is really very very powerful. I like the way you put that were always looking for that that finish line and often times there's not one coming even after you say of the finish line is well on the care for them until they pass on.

Well, that's not really the end for the caregiver either.

There's a lot of counsel and after that the lease please you could testify to this more that I can because I'm still caregiver, but but I maintain on the show for years. Caregiving doesn't stop the degree for the journey for caregiver that that that the, the, the, the angst and the eternal of the challenges for caregiver does not stop the grave.

Is that a fair statement STATEMENT and a lot of the community that we apply provide care connection. People of you know I can't come anymore because my left one popped out like you need a different kind of support also me you can offer a different kind of perspective part and that struggle with identity and all of those feelings. You know all of that anger. All that unresolved rage all of the appointment and all of the good things to check when you know when when someone dies in 100 years old.

I had a happy pain-free Passover transition to the next light on, you know, we don't forget those people you don't forget the feelings that we don't relationship doesn't go away. It's the same with the with the care getting that's a part of your identity that you don't put in a little box and put it in the closet when it's over exactly and and I I think that, let it be.

It's it's it's us and what is one of my goals is to help myself and my fellow caregivers prior hands off the wheelchair you know and stop trying to be in charge of this thing you we get so wrapped up in this is this is what we gotta do we gotta fix it. We talked about this. We did of so there they were, some music and things will resolve the way we hope they will want them to or try to make them resolve and sometimes it was, but that's what makes beautiful music with you go to something like we know that that for progress, but sometimes it goes and it just results differently.

It's not better, not worse. It's different.

It's beautiful. It's music.

There's something there but if we are so busy trying to dictate it and I love what you know that so let it be.

Just let it be. It's going to be okay just let it be and and quit trying to orchestrate and script this thing and that's something that I struggle with for lo these many deck and Gracie Bob here in a minute. In the other room there. Grace yells out now this next one is is I think is very important because self-esteem for caregivers is a hard thing there there so many of us who just feel so beaten down by this week.

Not necessary for other people sometimes from ourselves, especially so for Mark yeah yeah that's that's where that originates you like. We have such were high functioning multitaskers like you say, often bites so that provides a certain amount self-esteem that we have achieved so much and we do have this idea that we can do it all and then as soon as something the tiniest little pebble in her path. Will we allow other peoples assessment of of who we are, what were doing the job or doing whatever to just crush her spirits so I felt like this song would be the great one. The leaves are your thoughts.

I think I'll wait fully you gotta get back to yourself. You are looking for from people that recognize the job were doing were looking for it back from the diagnosticians and the doctors who understand that we are the fulcrum for making this thing really happened.

At times, but the fact that we do have to get ourselves. I love you your your hit, you are wrong. We we have we have truly demoralized ourselves and I and I asked this to muscle tears asked myself what would you say to someone that was doing exactly what you're doing, you probably put your arm around him and said man I'm proud of you doing a great job. And yet, to ourselves, we will just absolutely eviscerate our own hearts and then allow other people to do the same thing. So let's gain some respect. Give some respect to the trauma that would be dealing with.

Give some respect to the said just the grief the sorrow. Give some respect to the burden of it and and into into the fact that were showing up trying to meet that burden and and that's it for such an important part for building up the heart of the caregiver you know if our hearts a train right guess what's can happen to her wallets or bodies or jobs or relationships, and so it all starts in the heart and in the last one is from my my wife's favorite singers. My wife loves this gal. We all know her and this is a great Kelly Clarkson Did I greatly talking to yourself the conversation to have it yourself monologue and we know the power music that will be something out loud when we're moving. If you're walking and your singing that to yourself that's going to get embedded in your kind of emotional DNA more than if you're just kind of you on your couch so I moved say that and make that your mantra every day with doesn't kill you makes you stronger. We've all heard that, but then Kelly Clarkson comes and she's just like plants a flag in that hill and and and allows us to rally around it and will said Lisa because we we do, we do tend to dismiss ourselves and I want my fellow caregivers to square the shoulders a little bit more lift their heads up a little bit more.

Take a deep breath and realize you don't want your doing something extraordinary and and I that's why I love doing the show and and being a part of other people stories were done this in Lisa. You have just truly blessed us today so thank you for taking the you took extra time with us and thank you for this, my gift, and my pleasure and my joy. Thank you all for what you do and I always enjoy thinning time and stay on it. We need you appreciate very much. Lisa given's belly ECA G BB ONS.com boiled peanuts and not afraid to admit it. We love having her here and thank you very much for that.

Lisa, this is hope for the care of the Spirit Roseburg broke away will be right back for John's final wrap-up thoughts 24 seven emergency support increasing safety, reducing isolation, these things are more important than ever. As we deal with the challenges of cobra 19. How about your vulnerable loved ones. We can always check on them or be there in ways we like.

That's why there's constant companion seamlessly weaving technology and personal attention to help push back against the isolation while addressing the critical safety issues of our vulnerable loved ones and their caregivers. Constant companion is the solution for families today. Staying connected staying safe. It's smart, easy, and incredibly affordable.

Go to www.mycompanion247.com today.

That's my companion.

247.com connection and independence for you and those you care about my companion. 247.com have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became it.

I questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me. But over time I questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing without more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis.

We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in a Tennessee prison.

We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ. The source of my help and strength these visits standing with help.com to learn more and participate in lifting others standing without.com. I'm Gracie. I am standing without the final wrap-up will be John and I want to spend some time just to decompressing. What a great show and appreciate that, while she was so gracious and again Lisa Gibbons.com check her out. She's got know who she is. But there are water resources there and ends pretty easy to navigate to a lot of a lot of those websites that I've come through well. We do know this is that a lot of people don't know what she's done right and we know the public persona and it was just such a treat to hear her heart and and as she shared because you know she went through it to me. This was usually not only just went through, but that she said okay what I got to do with this now.

Right and and so I'm very very gracious took the time and then just be able to go to the songs into get it is only a small list of supposedly we can come up with all because I thought about you know you will never be your beast of burden. You know there's a lot of songs out there but but what I what I heard. Let it be you know and I hope I do that would be good one yeah and and look at my fellow caregivers who are so angst driven. Talk about angst a little bit.

John subject you you you can break you shared with me some thoughts on this. Talk about angst while angst and and when were wet when we have these because I can't equivalent your crickets have just anxiety a little bit and and and thinking about you know what's like you say a lot living in the wreckage of our future.

That is a is a, I believe I might be hearing this wrong but it's like this, you caught me off guard. I was going some resins are like a cat show absolutely no because I'm so tall, etc., are our this is a strange way of putting it, but a lot of times I relied on apathy and that's it. That's not that's not know yeah you get that and to not be so wrapped up in, especially something that really if you think about it afterward ends up being very very minor or not very minor, but the response was disproportionate report that way. Is it apathy is or is it detachment, and I think that there are there lots of I haven't found the exact right and maybe we can figure it out today. Detachment is a good one and and what the difference between it being an like this is my job and I am a steward of this, it's that that sort of shift I have to do this and I'm just a steward and I'm I'm ushering this this this this situation through to its fruition or something. Stewardship is a word you would talk about a lot of show because I think that we we help we have seen the value of people grasping that and letting go of the concept of ownership right. But, own it, that it's all on me right if I own it than I am the one who can and should be criticized for the outcome.

Because MM and if you're not the owner of it. If you are simply not meant simply put, but if you are rather the steward of it than your people say I see this a lot like what is he doing his best to leave him alone will be back at the test he tried to bless his heart. He tried out mom tried as always, I think that for me that there was a such an important shift and when I feel the angst coming over me, which it still does. I feel this this intense grasping of me try to wrestle this thing to the ground and beat it into submission of okay this this doctors not going to order this particular pharmacist, or this particular situation or I've got to do this I gotta do this again under this and that just amps up the angst in me so much and in order to back that up to two bring that down. I have to back off.

How much of angst you think this is originates within ourselves a rather how much of it is directed at the actions of others and how much of it is maybe wrapped up in embarrassment exit window even one step further. I think that a lot of it is at its core driven, at least in my case in the 90 percentile plus a fear of this thing is going off the rails of the this thing coming back to me. I have to have to fix it off to clean it up or somebody's going to like. You may get embarrassed or something to think poorly of me or whatever but it's all that fear of I have got to present a a place of being large and in charge or I had to have the sink wrestled to the ground.

I have to be in control. I go back and I cringe over times when I've done that and said I have to be in control of something and no I don't think I can get over my thoughts, words and deeds and the outcomes are way beyond my my skill set that is a hard place to get to and it's a hard place to stay. So there's a constant recurring of having to get to that place and then you you don't get this. You don't get the plate your flag. There is you you get kicked out of it by your own funkiness on any given day.

And you gotta claw your way back. It is work. It is you don't accidentally get to a place where you say I'm going to be at peace with this piece is intentional. Oliverio that's I like how we that there was out there was a long plane landing long surreal that wheel is nice. I wasn't sure if the wheels were tailored to the landing gear was a little bit of I have felt for me it is just me. Others can do with how there were going to but I found for me that I don't get the luxury of of achieving this type of Nirvana you know said okay. I may not hear that I don't have to learn this lesson yeah yeah yeah I had to learn every time every day I have to go back. It is, it is it is not like riding a bicycle to energy choosing to do the things that is something that this is time to wrap this entire thought up by its choosing to choosing to try to learn and and and nothing teachable yeah teachable and and being willing to listen, to let the circumstances. Let it be. Being willing to go to answer the original question you say something about angst.

John there is an don't like to hear this because it means that we are at fault sometimes can mean that a little bit. We are at fault for this sorry state of mind but there is a never get out of angst you are going to have shoes to walk again as it is a willful path.

We must take the road less traveled. My life may still not get out of it without will say this is a lot more doing and thinking.

This is John Butler and I produce hope for the caregiver with Peter Rosenberger.

Some of you know the remarkable story of Peter's wife Gracie and recently Peter talked to Gracie about all the wonderful things that have emerged from her difficult journey. Take a listen Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach.

Did you ever think the inmates would help you do that, not in a million years. When you go to the facility run by core civic and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and orange everything when you see all this. What do you make me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands.

Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled now had no idea and I thought a peg leg. I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon legs and flex the sea legs and all that. I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people they'll walk there, providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What is it do to you. Just on the heart level. I wish I could explain to the world.

What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with us. I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave. I don't want to leave them. II feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like that we have a common bond that I would've never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers. I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the men that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are. It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that that says so much that doesn't have anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people. If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a loved one who passed away or you know somebody well groomed. You've donated some of your own for them to have it, how they do that please go to standing with hope.com/recycle staining with.com/recycle thanks Grace we and one of our generous sponsors here.

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