Best of Bob Costas and Jim Nantz - - Golf With Jay Delsing

Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now, he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing.

On The Range is brought to you by TaylorMade. Hey, good morning. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. Pearly, good morning. What's going on? Good morning, Jay. It's going just fine here.

I'm in sunny Arizona. We don't want to know. We don't. I'm so tired of this.

Really? Forget it. Anyway. Why do you ask me?

Why do you ask me? I said, how are you doing? I didn't want a weather report. I'm telling you how I'm doing. I'm warm. I'm warm and getting sunny tan down in Arizona.

That's how I'm doing. Hope you get sunburned. Yeah, I know.

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All right. So this is our best of Pearl. We have got Bob Costas and Jim Nance today. Man, I was so enthralled listening to Gretzky and the great Jack Nicklaus last week. And now we've got these two guys.

It's just fantastic. I am so honored to have them on the show. We also are going to announce the winners of the Powers Insurance St. Louis Blues tickets behind the Blues Bench giveaway for January twenty seventh.

That'll be in the the 19th hole. But John, Bob Costas, who needs no introduction to anyone. 2012 Hall of Fame inductee, eight time broadcaster of the year, winner of over 20 sports Emmys. He covered 11 Olympic Games. He's had a show on HBO, HBO Sports, Kentucky Derby, golf with NBC for 11 years. This guy is just, oh, man. And he spent so much of his early career here in St. Louis.

It's really thrilling to have him on the show. Let's just go listen to this snippet from Bob Costas. Open Chicago with the lead. Time out, Utah, five point two seconds left. Michael Jordan running on fumes with forty five points.

Who knows what will unfold in the next several months. But that may have been the last shot Michael Jordan will ever take in the NBA. Bob Costas is brought to you by Golden Team. I'm looking at your accomplishments, man.

And I just cannot believe the sports spectrum that you've covered in your career. I mean, I guess we could start in 1974 when you got to come to St. Louis. I'm assuming, you know, you're a kid that grew up in Queens and that you had never been to St. Louis before. I had never set foot in St. Louis until October of 1974. I was in Syracuse where I went to college. I had gotten my first job a year before doing minor league hockey in the Eastern Hockey League.

The thirty dollars a game and five dollars a day meal money on the road while I was still a student at Syracuse. The only thing I really knew about St. Louis was the Cardinals and the fact that I could sometimes pick up KMOX if the signal was clear enough on the right night. And I could listen to Harry Carrey and Jack Buck.

And by the mid 70s, it was just Jack because Harry had left. So I was excited to have an interview at KMOX for the chance to be the voice of the spirits and maybe to meet Jack Buck. But I thought, hey, I'm 22 years old. I have a very thin resume. There's almost no way in the world I'm going to get this job.

But lo and behold, I did. And so when I came to St. Louis for the interview, I'm thinking this is the one and only time for the foreseeable future. I'll be in this town. And what do I know about this town?

I know the Cardinals and I know that Stan Musial has a restaurant, at least he did then for many years, called Musial and Biggies. So I went after the interview with Mr. Hyland and with Jack Buck, I went to Musial and Biggies by myself. And this is 1974. And all I had was a hamburger and maybe a Coke. And the bill was maybe 10 bucks. And I didn't even have any credit cards then. All I had was a little bit of cash. And as the tip after paying the bill, I left three singles, a quarter, a nickel and a penny.

Three dollars and thirty one cents in honor of Stan Musial's lifetime batting average of three thirty one. I'm sure the waiter was puzzled, but I'm thinking I'm never going to set foot here again. So I go back to Syracuse and a couple of days later, Mr. Hyland calls me. And what do you know, I've got the job and I'm back in Syracuse a couple of weeks after I'm back in St. Louis rather a couple of weeks after that, embarking upon my career with KMRX. And Bob, what a phenomenal career you've had. But one of the things as a kid, I can remember listening to you call the St. Louis Spirits games and fly Williams. The three point line, you know, the colored ball, all of those really fun things as a you know, as a kid, I grew up in North County and love sports. But hearing your voice, the passion that you had when you called basketball was phenomenal. Well, you know, I was a kid.

That's part of it. I was a kid starting out on his first really big broadcasting adventure. I was at KMOX. I understood the prestige and the history of the station.

I understood that I was working with Jack Buck and with Dan Kelly and other legendary broadcasters on a station where Harry Caray and Joe Garagiola and others had worked. And I was a small part of that. So I was all I was all psyched up anyway.

And of course, basketball is a fast paced sport. And I guess I just let it rip. Yeah, absolutely. And you became part of this tremendous roster of unbelievable broadcasters that this little flyover city, as we're called sometimes, has had. The people that have come through here have been just phenomenal.

Oh, absolutely. Hall of Fame broadcasters. You think about all the people that have been associated primarily with St. Louis that are in the baseball broadcasters Hall of Fame, the broadcasters wing in Cooperstown or various other broadcasting halls of fame, bold face names. There's never been a radio station, and this is a considered opinion, never been a radio station more influential or better in quality than KMOX over the course of decades, more dominant in the ratings and more respected in every way. And it's only a small exaggeration to say that, especially in sports, we had a roster of people there that could have stopped the network's entire sports department.

There's no question I had Jay Randolph senior on. Oh, gosh, a couple of months ago Bob and he talked about, you know, the Gary benders of the world and some of those guys that, you know, because we had the big red back then. And, oh, man, as a kid you know you just don't appreciate it as I'm older now and I've been fortunate to be in sports I'm like, man St. Louis has just got a first class seat that takes, you know, it doesn't have to take anything from any other city in terms of our broadcasters. Yeah, even Dan Deardorff began broadcasting at KMOX when he was still an active player with the football Cardinals and went on from there to its horrific career on network television calling football.

Okay, so I'll give you the first crack at this. He's always he's always just fun to listen to no matter what your questions are what's going on, you know, he pops into my head Jake is obviously the Olympics are right around the corner, and man did he do a good job and a fun job, and it was fun in the past in his interviews with you when he would talk about kind of walking that fine line with the Olympics so that's really what I started thinking about because man. His old Dan Hicks and Mike Trico have a fine line to do this year and they better have every bit of the skill of Bob Costas to get through that so I think I think so much of him and he's fun to listen to he's so knowledgeable, but, man, he, he, he says it, but he says is there a way that most everybody can accept it.

Yeah, you know, john he, the bar said hi at NBC Sports no question about it Dan Hicks has been on the show great guy to. We wish them all the best but Bob Costas had a way of blending in. He would blend in, I remember when the Olympics were in Beijing, and he would blend in, you know this there was a massive human rights issue at the time wondering should our athletes have been there you know China's got some really sketchy history and with that and he, he never ignored the topics that were he that were being talked about, but he did it in a way that didn't take away from the sport or the athletes.

So you never got down felt like you went down a bunny trail. You still were focused on the competition, and what these great Olympians were doing. So that's exactly the scenario we're back in Beijing and now we're at the Winter Olympics, so it's the exact same situation so it's gonna be interesting to see. And to give the guy the current guys a little bit of credit or grace, if you will. It's amplified from back when it was tough enough for Bob Costas but it's times five or times 10 so it's gonna be interesting to see what those guys can do.

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Hey, welcome back. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host Jay Pearly is with me. Brad Barnes meets taking great care of us here in our studios. We're headed to the front nine. It's brought to you by the Ascension Charity Classic this year 2022 September 5 through 11. I've just been hired as an ambassador again.

I'm delighted to be part of this group. I can't wait to have the best champions tour players back in town back at Norwood this year. It's going to be great. Cannot wait. Jay, now that they've seen the courts for a year, they've played competitively. How much is that going to change things, do you think?

I think they're going to get a better sense. I think Norwood has lends itself to needing several rounds under your belt to get a sense for the greens. The greens are really, really tough.

The layout is great. The greens are tough. And you got to hit your approach shots, kind of like I did last year, Pearl, into the correct areas of the green. Or just go ahead and shank every other one and hit them under a bunch of trees.

Anyway, we're not jumping off of there. Okay, so now we have Jim Nance. Boy, I mean, where do you start with this guy? The Hello Friends moniker honoring his and representing his late father that passed away because of Alzheimer's in 2008, multiple Emmys, Broadcaster of the Year five times, CBS Golf, March Madness, CBS Football with Phil Simms, and now with Tony Romo, and it goes on and on and on. Let's go listen to our friend Jim Nance. You started in 1986 at the Masters and you've been hosting at Augusta. Since 1989, I can't tell you a how much I miss sports and be how much your voice has just been symbolic with my comfort of sport. And, you know, it's and it's it's like something's missing.

It's like you're sitting at the family table and somebody's gone. Well, I put a lot of people to sleep there Saturday and Sunday golf shows. I've been accused of that.

I actually get that quite a bit. And people actually write me or tell me that there's no nap that's more soothing or deeper than than the Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Golf nap listening to Jim Nance and watching CBS Golf and I know they mean it as a compliment.

I think they do anyway. Rodney Harrison when he was playing for the Patriots one time walked into one of our meeting rooms and said, man, I owe you so much. I get the best naps in the offseason. Listen to you and you know, it's awesome to CBS Golf and how you do it. He put me to sleep every time again. I know he meant it as a compliment, but you know, we're with Phil Simms. I love Phil for 13 years.

He never let that one go away. He reminded me so many times about what Rodney said, but it is what it is, you know, golf's a relaxing thing to watch, you know, and you want people to get kind of like into it. You know, like lose themselves in it. If that means they not off, you're not off. But all I can tell you is I'm not close to falling asleep.

I mean, there's probably a lot more intensity than maybe my voice reflects. But man, I hang on every shot. I just I'm hopelessly in love with the game. You know, I I never had anywhere close to, you know, a career that anybody would ever care about as a player.

But I always wanted to be. And I mean, I was freakishly like stalking the PGA Tour and golf when when I was a kid, I couldn't get enough of it. You know, my parents would go out of their way to make sure drive me to tournament sites and drop me off and let me run around for the day knowing that I wouldn't get in any high jinks or trouble. But the number of tournaments that I could tell you that my parents, you know, with with a modest income, what they did to let their son live the dream of being around this tour, whether it was dropping me. Well, I can tell you this for starters, every year our spring break, we were living in New Jersey during my high school and grade school years, they would drive for two days, two days, stop one where one stop 600 miles down the road, stay in a motel, get back on the road. We would drive two days to go to wherever the tour was located that that given week in March, Jacksonville, this is before the players championship at the old Jacksonville open in very Doral, you name it, wherever our break fell. My folks would drive four days total round trip to drive me to a tournament, buy me a ticket, and allow me to go out and run around and watch the PGA Tour.

You know, just now having a chance to have the access of sitting behind the 18th hour. I still look down and remember the kid that was running around in all of it all. But Jim, you're a great player. I mean, you you played on terrific University of Houston. I hate to I hate to I hate to, to shoot down a dear friend, but great. I've never been called a great player.

So I do need a copy of this show. You got it, man. I was a good enough player to make the University of Houston golf team. But I was completely outclassed talent wise when I got there. I the coach thought I had some ability and thought that I had the potential to maybe be able to help his golf program, which was a great golf program, which I'm terrific.

Nothing to the cause. I was I was the 18th man on an 18 man golf team. Now I might have been 17th one or two weeks along the way.

But that would have been a fluke. You had to turn in a score every day, Jay, you had to go out and play everything had to be hold the coach would set up your your your groups and tell you where you go play and the scorecard had to come back sign and attest it. I was out of my league. But you know, I didn't have that burning passion. I love the game as a player. But the passion was to be able to be a guy that was going to comment on it and tell the stories behind it. That's pretty cool locally for me.

Fortunately for me, that came true. You're talking about coach Williams as well, right? The legendary Williams Tony was the man I mean, he, he had one of his former players named Ron Weber, who was the head pro at the woodlands. He'd been a tour player early in the 60s and had a couple of runner up finishes on the tour. Mr. Weber came back and was the head pro and he saw me hitting balls on the range one day.

This is in the summer of 77. I'm all set enrolled at the University of Texas a month from actually going there in Austin. He saw me hitting balls and somebody made an introduction. He said, wow, he's what's your background? I told him I just moved down from graduating high school in New Jersey. And he said, you you can really play if you are you play college golf at Texas? I said, oh, no, no. At one time, I thought I actually talked to the Clemson coach, but they didn't show a lot of interest.

So I'm going to go to Texas and, you know, pursue broadcasting and this kind of thing. He said, I'd like you to meet Dave Williams. I said, you know, of course, I knew who he was. Dave Williams needs to see you. He needs to meet you. And he took me into his office behind the pro shop or, you know, the side of the pro shop.

He got on his Rolodex and he called Dave Williams right in front of me, right in my company. And Dave Williams said, yeah, I'll come out and see him. He said, when are you available? He leaned over and I said, anytime I'm wide open. He said, well, how about tomorrow? I said, sure. So we'll be out here at nine o'clock in the morning. So I showed up the next day and Mr. Weber introduced me to Coach Williams as I was I'd already loosened up and hit some balls on the range and I was putting. And I went over and very respectfully met the great man.

And he said, he said, Jimbo called me Jimbo said, I want you to go out and play nine holes. I'm going to follow you around in the cart. Don't even even acknowledge I'm there. It's like I'm not even there.

Don't even think about it. You go play nine holes. I'm going to watch it and we'll talk after the round. I said, when's a good time?

Mr. Weber said the T's open. Let's go. So he ended up driving the coach around his former coach. So the pro and the head coach set in the cart for nine holes. I went birdie birdie one and two.

I'm not going to make you take a card here yourself. But I birdied the first two holes and I played the last seven holes four over four bogeys, three pars to go with the two early birdies. I shot 38.

I thought I'd probably thrown it away with that scratchy finish. But when I walked off the ninth hole and I hit some decent shots, but I was never consistent. The coach came out of his cart and he said, Jimbo, how would you like to be a Cougar? And I said, University of Houston Cougar. He said, yes, I want you to play for my golf team. Now, I can't offer your scholarship, but I'd like you to come to our school and be a part of my team. They're coming off a national championship, by the way. So I did.

I had to I had to apply before I could enroll and get accepted. All that came together. And then in late August of 1977, I went over to the campus and met the six other freshmen that were part of my class. And these are guys that, you know, Freddie Couples, Blaine McAllister. These are buddies of yours and a guy named John Horn, who you may have played with. I did play with John Horn. He was a great guy. Yeah, great guy. I just talked to John.

His birthday is a few weeks ago. Great pal. So they were the three star recruits who got scholarship money. I was just, you know, a flunky walk on kid. And I ended up after the first semester after I actually after the first year, I ended up moving in to the dorm with those three.

The four of us shared a two bedroom, one bathroom suite, and they became lifetime buddies. And I got to be on the Houston golf team. Man, it was a powerhouse.

It was a powerhouse back then. I got recruited a little bit by Dave Williams and had some of the for me. You know, everything was done, Jim, on my telephone. And I had never met him.

I read about him and just in books and people told me about him. And we had some strange conversations because he said one time to me, Jay, do you look good in red? And I'm thinking, man, I don't think I look good in anything. So he said, Cougar Red, do you look good in Cougar Red? I said, yes, sir.

You know, I know there's 100 percent accurate. That's exactly what he said to me. How would you like to be a cougar? You know, he had so much pride in being a Houston cougar and that cougar red. And that's one of you. You know, when he talked to you.

I mean, I know exactly. I can see him saying it to you. OK, John, I'll give you first crack. Jim Nance. Sure.

Absolutely. With with Nance. Just the thing I love about this, Jay, and it's you can relate to this because you had an early love for the game, too. And then went on and stayed in the game in multiple ways. He had an early love for the game of golf. He was passionate about it and his parents supported him.

And so what a surprise. He knew it inside and out as a player, high school, college, et cetera. And he acknowledges he was no superstar.

He wasn't going to get on the tour and that kind of stuff. But he just had that that passion, that love. So what a great place for him to end up. Obviously, he does multiple sports. He's a super talented guy, but it's just great that he's able to continue that passion. And his passion shows through every single week. As far as I'm concerned, he's a great voice to hear. He's knowledgeable and he's passionate. Perfect scenario. And he's been passionate his whole life.

Perfect scenario to be top of the heap. We don't have much time left on the front line, but I'm going to throw one word at you that when he talks, he's kind. There's something about him that that's just a rare thing.

John, to have that sort of passion, be that sort of celebrity and be as kind as he is. And he is he is that he is that I totally agree with you. That's a big one.

All right. So we're going to have another. We we actually had a full hour of Jim Nantz interview. So we're going to this is going to wrap up the front. We're going to come back to the back then and get another little snippet from a different episode of Jim Nantz. This is golf with Jay Delson. Hey, everybody, it's Ben Kiel. You're listening to golf, Jay.

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I really appreciate this. I'm looking forward to it. Yes. Oh, my gosh.

I am so excited. Tony Penna, this iomatic brand is an iconic brand. I remember it when I was a kid and you kind of grew up in Westchester County and knew of this brand as a youngster as well.

Yeah. I mean, Tony Penna was a legendary golf brand. I mean, it was Tony Penna himself was a very, very well-known famous golfer back in the day. He was on tour, played with all the greats. And he went and started working for McGregor as their club designer. And he just is a legendary figure in the world of golf.

Oh, my gosh, Rob. He hung around with Bing Crosby and Perry Como. He was so proud of his Italian heritage and what what I remember and what is really sticks out to me and what you guys are doing. And you can go to Tony Penna Golf dot com to check this out is the styles I'm looking right now in my hand is the Jupiter putter. Tony Penna was a fashionable guy. He cared about the way these putters look as well as performed.

And that is still the case with what you guys are doing, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, we we are trying to come out with unique, high quality golf products. We don't come out with an array of products every year. We are very select. We come out with some putters and wedges.

We're going to be coming out with some drivers that are going to be very interesting, looking like the original persimmon wood drivers, but obviously in a large metal head. But we're doing we're trying to bring this land back to life. It has a legendary history. It's been owned by many other companies over the years. Rawlings at one point on the brand that Jack Nicklaus company at one point on the brand.

And it's been away for a long time. We as a as a company resurrect brands in other categories and being a golf junkie and loving golf equipment. I felt that this was an ideal brand to bring back to life. Oh, my gosh.

You and I have been talking for quite a while. And I was so excited because when I was a caddy, the IOMATIC McGregor persimmon drivers were just all the rage. And I remember when all through college I hit a McGregor driver and to now see what you guys are doing. And I love your Tony, the little TP logo.

It really is cool and catchy. And you've got that on the back of your wedges. You've got it on your putter.

It's a it's a nice trademark. Yeah, I mean, we we really looked at the old golf clubs and what they did back in the 60s and 70s. And we tried to have that feel to make it look like the club is back in the day. We added some modern enhancements to it. And obviously the technology is quite improved from back then. But we're trying to give it that old that Tony kind of look and feel. And I think we're doing a good job in that respect.

Now, there's no question. And we got to talk about the price because you guys are at such a competitive price. This is not going to be a six hundred dollar driver. This is not going to be a four hundred dollar putter. We're talking now fractions of the cost.

Yeah, we will. Our business model really is to bring high quality golf equipment directly to the consumer at affordable prices. I mean, our putters are really and our drivers and our wedgers are really top of the line.

And we're able to do it at an affordable price because we're not spending hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars in marketing and advertising. We're really doing a direct to consumer approach, trying to get the name out there. But the Tony Pena brand to the golf aficionado, I think they know what the brand stands for.

And we're trying to to really resurrect this brand and bring and bring some high quality products to the to the golfer out there. Rob, you know, it's interesting as I've had Nathaniel Crosby on my show. We interviewed him and he's a huge part of Tony Pena. They have a great connection.

Yeah, he would. Well, he he was very close with Tony Pena, from what I understand. And he was his golf instructor. Obviously, Tony Pena and Nathaniel's father, Bing Crosby, were very close. In fact, Tony Pena, I think, was the one who really got that because the Invitational Celebrity Golf Tournament started back, I think, in the 30s. So they have a long history. Nathaniel owned, I think he owned part of the Tony Pena company back in the 80s when they brought back the brand.

And I think he was president of the company at the time as well. So the Tony Pena brand, besides Tony himself, has a long, rich history of golf loving, famous people that have really kind of graduated towards this. And I can't wait for the golfing public to get a look at this. Yeah, I mean, we have some really exciting products in development for 2022. With the IOMATIC, as you mentioned, we own the IOMATIC name and we use that on some of our products. And we're coming out with an IOMATIC driver sometime in the spring.

That's just going to be phenomenal. It's going to be very cool looking and people will be able to see that on the website in the coming months. So Rob, Tony Pena Golf dot com is how people can get a look at this stuff. And then we will you will send this directly to them. Yeah, yeah.

Directly to consumer. Yeah, that's fantastic. This has been the Leading Edge segment. And Mr. Robert Rosenberg, the president of Tony Pena Golf, was visiting with me this morning on Golf with Jay Delsing. Thanks so much, Rob, for visiting with me. Thank you. I really appreciate it. And everybody out there, stay safe and hit them straight.

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But here it is. The return to glory. I never thought we'd see anything that could rival the hug with his father in 1997.

We just did. That will be the greatest scene in golf forever. The Jim Nance interview on Golf with Jay Delcey is brought to you by Golden Tee. You know, you have the NFL, you have your NCAA hoops and all the other things that you're doing. But the game of golf, his man allowed me to hang out with people that I had no business knowing.

And I can't say enough about this game and I can't thank it enough and I I can't do enough to give back to it. Beautifully said. And that is golf and golfers if if they can really be honest with themselves. And some I think people are so in the middle of their careers and and competing so fiercely that they don't have that reflection or nostalgic mechanism in them yet. But I do hear more people extolling the greatness of the game for golf than any other sport and athlete talks about their given sport of choice. Golfers are an appreciative bunch.

They're incredibly loyal. But if there's a constant refrain and message, it's just how golf has put people put us into a position that's just unimaginable. It is the people that you meet through this game. And look, you you know, you went to UCLA. I mean, you were living in, you know, your rounds of golf in your home course is Bel Air Country Club.

I can only even imagine right there for starters. The kids as a kid, the people, the legends you got to meet. But the game has a grateful heart to it.

It has a soul. And the people that are able to express it like you. I'm on their team. Those are the people I want to be with because that's where I'm coming from.

Just exactly like you expressed it. I can remember when I was, I think I was 19 years old, 18 or 19 as a freshman. And I'm just standing on the putting green. I'm still in awe of West L.A. I don't know what I'm doing out in California. You know, I'm just so excited to be there. And I get a tap on the shoulder and I turn around and this guy says in this kind of Scottish accent, says, young man, would you be interested in playing nine holes of golf with me? And I turn around. Jim, it's damn Sean Connery. And I said, I can't be for you. My gosh, I'll do anything you want, you know, because this is James Bond.

But this was what? Nineteen seventy nine. Oh, my gosh. It was like royalty. Seventy nine, even though he's always going to be regarded as one of the legendary actors of all time.

Nineteen seventy nine. I mean, name the biggest star today. And that's what you basically you you got tapped on the shoulder and walked in.

And how does a 19 year old in any other space get to hang out with someone like him? But it's the game of golf. It is the game of golf.

And now I'm not trying to, you know, not usurp or match that story. But I had the freakish chance to play golf with Sean Connery myself. It's it's a doozy, but it was my first year of broadcasting the AT&T Pebble Beach program. So you're going to go back to the mid 80s, 1986, and I had played golf at Cypress Point. Again, what am I doing there with Frank Kinchen, our father of golf television and Ken Venturi.

I first time ever laid eyes on Cypress. I played with those two and I had the round of my life. I'm not going to lie. In fact, people today, if they play with me, they say there is no way you ever did what you said you did. But I made five birdies on the front nine J for starters. Wow.

OK. And I birdied 13 for a six birdie and I still shot 77 with six birdie. But that night I'm at dinner. I'm just a young kid hanging on the coattails of all these legendary broadcast people. And we're at the lodge and and Trikadian says at the end of the night, after a lot of wine had been consumed by most of the bunch. Not me. I didn't even know much about any worldly things like wine at that time in my life.

Not even what for not even four years removed from college. Jimmy, I'm supposed to play tomorrow with a couple of guys over at Cypress. You go back and play, go into the shop and tell Jim Langley that I couldn't make it and that you're going to play in place of me. I had made a game.

I'm not going to tell you you're playing with the go on over there. So I did. I showed up at the point of time I walked in on that one of the greatest men I've ever known in my life. Jim Langley, the late terrific person. And he said, well, you're on the T the group after next. He said you were playing with, you know, rattled off the names of one of whom was Sean Connery, which just what in the world is going on? By the way, Sean Connery carried his own bag. Talk about a man's man.

He, you know, caddy caddies is a very big part of the of the culture at Cypress. Walking is what he preferred to like to carry his own bag. He said he preferred to carry his own club. So he did. And, you know, I ended up I ended up not only playing with him, but giving him he needed a ride back to the lodge. And I had a rental car that was one of those big old Cadillacs like they used to make the long version. And I had another passenger that was in our group named Howard Keel, who had been an actor. You probably met. I sure knew Howard Keel. Yes, I sure did. Nice man.

So he killed them with us, too. He sat in the front seat passenger seat. I was going to be driving these two icons back nervously along 17 Mile Drive past alone Cypress just to get them back safely, hopefully to the lodge. And I threw the bags in the trunk and I came around the driver's side and I saw the back left door was still open. Connery was in the in the back seat and I slammed the door rather forcefully without realizing that Connery still had his leg. His left leg was on the pavement and not in the car. And all of a sudden I heard this blood curling scream and I didn't realize what I'd shut the door on Connery. He kind of worked his way out of the out of the car and was hopping around in complete agony in the Cypress Point parking lot. And there was blood that was trickling out of his pants, trouser on that shin bone just above the ankle. And I even had slightly torn his his trousers.

But he was in horrific pain. And I'm standing around like, what did I just do? Did I just injure James Bond? Did I just take him out of this tournament? How am I going to go back and tell Frank Trikinian that I've just taken one of the biggest stars from his celebrity field and sent him home to Scotland?

W.D. But even though there was a weird kind of satisfaction that I had done something that the likes of Goldfinger and Blofeld and all those had never done before, drawing blood from Bond. He did show these amazing powers of recovery.

And within about five or 10 minutes, he was able to walk normally and hop back into the car and kind of let go of it. And off we went back to the lodge. I'm feeling just awful and humiliated and embarrassed. But when I got to the front of the lodge, he and Howard Keel said they were going to Club 19 for for lunch.

Would I want to join them? So all things forgotten, I went back and had lunch with James Bond, Sean Connery and Howard Keel. And again, how does golf do this?

I have no idea, but I'll never forget that day. I can tell you that. OK, so don't go anywhere. That's going to wrap up the back nine. Pearly and I are going to break down the Jim Nance, the second half of the Jim Nance episode on the night.

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Grab your friends, a cold one, and pull up a chair. We're on to the 19th hole on Golf with Jay Delsing. The 19th hole is refreshed by Michelob Ultra. Alright, welcome back. I recognize that jingle, Pearly.

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We will announce the winners of the Powers St. Louis Blues giveaway for January 27th. Alright, John, Jim Nance, Sean Connery, almost taken James Bond out at Cypress Point, shutting his leg in the door, blood, the whole deal. I mean, how do you not love? I mean, it's so funny how you think about how important that day was to him at the time that he was going through that.

And he shuts Sean Connery's leg in the door and he's got blood running down into his shoe. And now we're looking back at it 25 or 30 years later and laughing at it and thinking about some of the crazy things we've done. Well, I think it's a fun story.

I'm really glad that we played it. I think, you know, to me, the message is who you get to run into in golf and what scenarios you get to be involved with them. We always talk about, you know, playing a four hour round, five hour round and having lunch type of thing. And how long you're with a person, you get to know them. Yes, that time frame to get to know them too.

But in such different situations, this is an extreme one, too. So we got to know James Bond as he was taking James Bond down. But it really does give us an opportunity not just to spend time with people, but to spend time with people in a different scenario than in some corporate office or in some other regular speaking engagement or whatever. It's much more humanized.

And I think it's another big piece of why golf is so important to us. John, before the pandemic, when I was still doing the corporate entertainment, hospitality stuff, the thing, the word that I use, it's it's disarming. You're out there. You're relaxed. You're not on your cell phone.

You're not responding to emails. You're not you know, you're in this environment that's beautiful somewhere around the world and you're out walking, hopefully with a caddy and enjoying that experience and everyone's guards down. And, you know, in that game is the game of golf is and has been a wonderful uniter that way where you and I have walked down fairways with people that we had no business knowing being with, et cetera, other than this love for the game and this ability to play it a little bit. Well, I think to your point, we didn't think we had business to it because it was easy to look at some of these guys with these lofty holding them holding up above everybody else. But when you walk in the fairways to your point, you realize they're human, just like everybody else. They do stupid things. They do great things.

They they're confused. They're good folks and sometimes and struggle with other times. You're right. It absolutely humanizes you. And one reason is humanizes us because normally the guys we're playing with in that situation are incredibly accomplished at a given discipline. And then again on the golf course and normally they're not terribly accomplished. And even if they are kind of they could still hit it sideways and make silly shots and get frustrated and let a few expletives fly left and right. So, yeah, it allows us to see that they're human, too. Yeah. And I think that that's the real charm, isn't it? Because you get to see I mean, I told the story 100 times about Julia serving one of my heroes and watching him not be able to hit the ball out of this room, you know, and thinking, wow. You know, this is a guy that can do just about whatever he wants to do in his discipline, as you said, on the hard court and then put a golf club in his hand. And you're like, oh, boy, we don't we don't we can't watch this.

All right. We've come to the time of the show that everybody's been waiting for. The winners of the Powers Insurance giveaway for the January 27th Blues Calgary game are Michael Heinemann and Richard Worley. Guys, Tim Davis with Powers. He's the CEO of Powers Insurance.

He put this deal together. He will be reaching out and you get to go sit next to him for an entire hockey game. And I'll be there also. So you can I'll be I'll be there running around grabbing you like beer and a hot dog or something. And Tim will be telling you stories. It'll be perfect.

This sounds like a good deal to me. Let me know if nobody claims their tickets. I'll be there. I'll be ready. We'll see how that goes.

Will you be on the road? We'll let you go. That's going to wrap up another show. Pearl, thanks so much for being with us.

Thanks for taking great care of us. And guys, come back next week. We'll have two victorious and extremely successful tour players. Paul Asinger and Steve Stricker on the golf with Jay Delsing show. Hit them straight, St. Louis.