Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now, he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go on the range with Jay Delsing. So, golf with Jay Delsing. Pearly.
Really? I'm ready this morning and straight out of the deer stand where I did my meditation and I'm ready to do the 100th show with you. Can you look back on how it was when we first started those first couple shows? I want to say we were terrible. I think mostly we were remarkably uncomfortable in our own skin sitting here.
Well, that was for sure, but to say that we were terrible might be a little bit of an understatement. Well, it might be implying that we got better. I'm not sure about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure about that either.
I remember that one. We are more comfortable. Exactly. I'm not sure the listener is, but we definitely are.
Right. Well, we formatted a show like Around the Golf and the first segment is called the On the Range segment. It's brought to you by our friends at Pro-Am Golf.
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So kind of a congratulations there. We joke all the time about the quality of it, but it's fun and I think people are seeing that and it's a little bit unique, like some of your sponsors are looking for. Alright, I've got a list of some guys I want to thank. Whitmore has been the title sponsor for two years. They've just been absolutely spectacular and we really appreciate them. Pro-Am Golf, 20 Minutes of Fitness, Anheuser-Busch, Doster-Ullman, Boyle, USA Mortgage. These guys have been with us the lion's share of two years.
It's really been terrific. Who's the beer sponsor, Jay? Anheuser-Busch. Oh!
That's an ultra. You can tell. You can tell. You can tell.
Well then, what would this one be? I think that was the same thing. Oh man, that was loud. Yeah.
It reminded me of going to class, parallel to UCLA. Anyway, so we've had great sponsors. Our next level of support has come from folks like Marcon, Bob and Kathy Donahue, Donahue Pinning and Refinishing, Henry Miller, The Fogelbach Agency with Farmers, Golf Tech, St. Louis Bank, The Ascension Charity Classic. Man, I mean these guys have been great.
They just came on this year, but they've signed up for next year. Just terrific people. And so one of the things that we did that's really fun, was able to go over and just pick out some interviews that we did. Some people that we did. Really enjoyed it. Alright, so this first one we're going into is recently crowned, at the time, recently crowned Stanley Cup champions, St. Louis Blues, and this is Coach Craig Berube.
Here's a couple clips from Craig. Make hard plays. Support each other. Five man units in all three zones.
The numbers around the clock. Pump it up here. We're here for a f***ing reason because we're a f***ing good hockey team and we're going to f***ing come home with a cup here tonight.
Let's f***ing go. How about the organization and the support? How, obviously, that's got to be crucial to winning. Oh, definitely.
It starts at the top. Your ownership and then your management. They're all got to be pulling the same way and being on the same page with the coaching staff and with the players. And I think that, you know, it's a good organization that way. I think Doug Armstrong does a great job of communicating with everybody and trying to put pieces in the right place.
He definitely put a good team on the ice for sure. But he also communicates with the coaches very well and ownership and the players and I think that's very important that that communication is there all the time and we all know where we stand and what's going on. Yeah, knowing where you stand not only as a coach but as a player and I know that you had some frank conversations with some of the players. It's just crucial for those players to know where they are, what they're expected to do.
Well, definitely. I think they all want to talk and I think communication is so important because, you know, like you said, they got to know where they stand or what you want from them. And if you can instill that in them and they understand, you know, where you're coming from and what you expect of them and what the team expects of you.
Good things happen. I mean, it's so important that everybody is pulling on the same rope and that we're all in the, you know, trying to, you know, work for the same goal. It's hard though because as an individual, you always want to have success individually, right?
And that's important too. I'm not saying it's not, but it's got to be, you know, for the team. Yeah, Tony La Russa talked a little bit about trying to motivate the guys but motivate them all in the same direction and what you're saying there, you know, we golfers don't have a clue about that. It's, you know, it was, it's just really about us and I can't imagine how hard that is when you have so many different personalities in the locker room. Well, it can be, but it's important to have good leadership, which we have very good leadership because the leaders lead the way. They understand that, you know, the team's the most important thing. And when you have that leadership that your leaders understand that it makes it a lot easier because they're doing it already.
So people follow. There's something special about St. Louis. The guys have told me because we have so many former players living here. Yeah, it's a great place. I think, you know, I don't know the players like there's so many there.
You're right. There's a lot of players that live there that played in St. Louis and there's something special about this place for sure. You know, like I said, it's a real good hockey town. It's a real good sports town. I think the people are very passionate about their sports there. I think it's just, you know, I think a lot of guys live there too is because they just fit in. I really believe that they just fit in around there. It's a simple place, you know, to live and easy to get around people are so nice and they're great people there.
I think the guys just like it. Okay, so what what didn't get on there because of my super techie skills was that all I wanted to talk to Craig really about was the hand pass and how the hell did he get his team to respond so favorably came out the next night and with the crap out of San Jose. They absolutely got the game stolen from them and it could have been devastating and he said I saw what happened and I knew the only way we were going to have success is that I had to tell him we're not talking about it. It's over. It's over. It's over. We're moving on.
We got a game to play tomorrow or the next day. I think it was the day after and we're not talking about it into his credit. He was such a stalwart with that line of thinking when he was pressed by the media and he's like, I don't have a comment on it. I don't have a comment on the guy said, I'll never forget. He said to him. Well coach, did you think it was a hand pass and he goes, Craig said, did you see the play and he goes? Yeah, and he goes, what do you think? And he goes, it was clearly a hand pass.
He goes, okay. He wouldn't say it. It was his way of acknowledging it and then putting it behind that's leadership. That's leadership reason.
They got it done at the end and you know, Pearl reminds me we had Dan Girdorf on the show. Not too long ago, maybe a month or two back and he talked about Bo Shem Beckler and he talked about Don Coriell and some of these other guys and some of the ways that they got motivated in man. When you have coaches of this ilk, it's not hard to want to run through walls for these guys.
That's why they're of that ilk is that they get it right when they need to get it right more times than not anyway. Yeah, absolutely. Great. That was a great interview. That was a fun one. Oh, man.
We really loved that just to finally get the Stanley Cup here and saying, look, somebody likes like we're never going to win. You know, my brother, I call my brother. I know I told you the story. I call my brother. It's game seven.
We're winning four to one and there's like a minute 30 left in the fourth in the third three. And I said, bro, can you believe he's like, what are you doing? You're calling me this isn't over. And he like, you're right.
Sorry, I lost my head. I thought we were going to win this. But yeah, so what a proud moment for St. Louis. Look at all the great sport events that have transpired since the start of your show 100 shows ago. Oh, my God. Interesting. Really?
Yeah. What's happened in the sports world? Do you think they could tie the pandemic to our show at all? I was going to try to tie the Stanley Cup win to the show. I like it.
I like your way of thinking. Alright, so here we got another interview in the in the on the range segment. Michael Collins has been a longtime friend. He's active on ESPN.
He's got a couple of shows on XM. And let's go to an excerpt of Michael Collins back when I first met him down at Hilton Head and the the tournament at MCI. I called the comedy club owner and say, Hey, man, there's a pro golfer in the caddy might come to the show tonight, put the name on the list just in case and don't behold Omar calls and like, Hey, man, we're coming. I'm like, All right, I got tickets for you at the door. So shows packed on Tuesday night have a fun set.
It's really good. Afterwards, Omar's hanging. Everybody's been drinking, having a good time.
And Omar's like, Man, I had such a good time and played so good when you came out and walked a few holes with me. You got to come out for the rest of the week. And I'm like, Well, I don't like I don't have a ticket. I can't. And he was like, Man, I got to go down to the car, comes back, gives me a couple clubhouse baggies. So now same thing. I don't know anything about God.
So I don't know how precious these things are. But I, you know, we all leave and and the owners like, man, what's the deal? What are you doing? I gave me a couple of clubhouse baggies and told me to come meet him tomorrow, blah, blah, blah. You know, he's gonna what time he's gonna practice on Wednesday, all this other stuff. So I'm like, I'm glad I got them khaki pants and them dudes all wear and I got a polo. He's like, All right, cool.
So the now the owners freaking out. But the next day I go to the tournament. I got khaki pants on and a polo shirt. And so I'm outside, like by the fence, by the driving range. And Omar introduces me to a couple of golfers, one of whom had just won the Open Championship. Like he goes, Hey, I want to introduce you a buddy mine is also from Texas. This is Justin Leonard. And I was like, Hold up, I've seen you on TV, bro.
I know who you are. And he laughs. And he was like, Hey, can I come to the show too? And I'm like, absolutely.
So then Omar was like, Hey, man, sit tight. And I was like, No, I'm gonna come up there on the range. He was like, Now you don't have a path.
You don't have a badge to get up here. So I'm like, Don't worry about that, man. I got it. So I walked back near the front and I see these towels. So I just grabbed a towel, and I throw it on my shoulder.
Right. And then this is the I see all the caddies have khakis as back in the distance back before caddies were allowed to wear shorts. So all the caddies were dressed like me. So I just throw the towel on my shoulder.
And just start walking up onto the driving range. But I look like I'm ready to kill somebody. Like I look mad. I'm angry.
Like something didn't go right at practice today. And I just walked up and now I'm standing up by Omar. He's like, Dude, how did you get up here on the driving range? And I was like, Well, look, I'm dressed like a caddy.
I got a towel on my shoulder. And I got the angry brother man face. And he's like, What?
I was like, Look, everybody working the tournament right now, even the security all volunteers, like they're not going to stop an angry black guy who looks like he knows what he's doing. And where are you going? Like, like you do. I'm doing this for free, man.
They gave me this shirt and the hat like I use. Why don't you let that do punch you in the face? But why I gotta get punched if you go stop them? No way, man.
Everybody just kind of went away and let you go. Yeah, that was just like, Hey, man, that dude apparently knows what's going on because something didn't go right. Leave him alone.
Right. Okay, so that is just so classic. I love how he's like, talking to people doesn't know anything about golf. He's like, I'm gonna go watch golf practice, you know, and started busting out hysterically. And he is brought such an authentic, such a real look to the game. I just love it. That's awesome. It's also how inclusive the game is how people kind of embraced him from right there. But, and it crossed into the, the comedy, etc.
A lot of fun. He calls a spade a spade, you know, and if he says something, when he gets going on one of his shows, and, you know, takes one of one of his peeps out from the PGA Tour, Justin Thomas Rickey or something and turns out wrong. He sees like, man, I just call him up and say, Hey, dude, here's what I was doing.
Here's what I thought I got my information wrong. I apologize to you now. I apologize for on the show. But he calls it like he sees it. Well, we don't want to be accountable. That's what he's accountable. What's What's that about?
Well, that's a his show. Okay. Just make sure you're not trying to press that on us. No, oh, no, no, we're too far down the road for that.
Yeah, so that's gonna do it for the on the range segment. But don't go anywhere. We've got interviews from Bill DeWitt, Jim Nance, Nick Rago and Paul Asinger.
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Welcome back. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. John is with me. We're on the front nine, brought to you by the Ascension Charity Classic. Can't wait for September 2021. We're going to have 2020 in our rear view, solidly in our rear view, and we are going to have one hell of a field over there at Norwood. You're going to be ready, man. New knee and all.
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Not for all of the kids, just for my kids. All right. So we've got this interview with Jim Nantz. This is really a fun interview. Let's just jump right in. Wait a second, though.
Okay. Another example, though, for your 100th show of what incredible guests you've had on this show, Jay. Seriously, it's just so much fun. You know, I'm watching Golf Channel with Faridee.
You're having the same guys as Faridee's having that kind of stuff. It's just a lot of fun. I mean, what a testament to all the years you were out there banging around and some of the weeks I was dragging it around. But the people will come on your show, spend that time.
Because I know all these people get hundreds of requests to do shows and do this and do charity things. So congratulations. Thank you. And this was a whale. You know, in business, you always want to land a whale here or there. You landed a whale with Jim Nantz.
What a terrific, kind, sweet person, too. Let's go to this Jim Nantz interview. The number of people that we have met. Let's just stay with golf. You know, you have the NFL, you have your NCAA hoops and all the other things that you're doing. But the game of golf has, man, allowed me to hang out with people that I had no business knowing. And I can't say enough about this game. And I can't thank it enough.
And I can't do enough to give back to it. Beautifully said. And that is golf. And golfers, if they can really be honest with themselves. And some I think people are so in the middle of their careers and and competing so fiercely that they don't have that reflection or nostalgic mechanism in them yet. But I do hear more people extolling the greatness of the game for golf than any other sport. An athlete talks about their given sport of choice. Golfers are an appreciative bunch.
They're incredibly loyal. But if there's a constant refrain and message, it's just how golf has put people, put us into a position that's just unimaginable. It is the people that you meet through this game. And look, you you know, you went to UCLA and you were living in, you know, your rounds of golf in your home courses, Bel Air Country Club.
I can only even imagine right there for starters. The kids as a kid, the people, the legends you got to meet. But the game has a grateful heart to it.
It has a soul. And the people that are able to express it like you, I'm on their team. Those are the people I want to be with, because that's where I'm coming from.
Just exactly like you expressed it. Oh, my gosh, Jim. That is so that is so cool.
I can remember when I was I think I was 19 years old, 18 or 19 as a freshman. And I'm just standing on the putting green. I'm still in awe of West L.A. I don't know what I'm doing out in California. You know, I'm just so excited to be there. And I get a tap on the shoulder and I turn around. And this guy says in this kind of Scottish accent, says, young man, would you be interested in playing nine holes of golf with me? And I turn around. Jim, it's damn Sean Connery. And I said, I can't be for you. My gosh, I'll do anything you want, you know, because this is James Bond.
But this was what? Nineteen seventy nine. Oh, my gosh. It was like royalty. Seventy nine, even though he's always going to be regarded as one of the legendary actors of all time.
Nineteen seventy nine. I mean, name the biggest star today. And that's what you basically you you got tapped on the shoulder.
And how does a 19 year old in any other space get to hang out with someone like him? But it's the game of golf. It is the game of golf. And I'm not trying to, you know, not usurp or match that story. But I had the freakish chance to play golf with Sean Connery myself.
It's it's a doozy. But it was my first year of broadcasting the AT&T Pebble Beach program. So you're going to go back to the mid 80s. Nineteen eighty six. And I had played golf at Cypress Point.
Again, what am I doing there? Frank, your Kenyan, our father of golf television and Ken Venturi. First time I ever laid eyes on Cypress. I played with those two and I had the round of my life. I'm not going to lie. In fact, people today, they play with me and say there is no way you ever did what you said you did. But I made five birdies on the front nine J for starters.
OK. And I birdied 13 for a six birdie and I still shot 77 with six. But that night I'm at dinner. I'm just a young kid hanging on the coattails of all these legendary broadcast people. And we're at the lodge and and Trikadian says at the end of the night, after a lot of wine had been consumed by most of the bunch, not me. I didn't even know much about any worldly things like wine at that time in my life.
Not even what for not even four years removed from college. Jimmy, I'm supposed to play tomorrow with a couple of guys over at Cypress. You go back and play, go into the shop and tell Jim Langley that I couldn't make it. And that you're going to play in place of me. I had made a game.
I'm not going to tell you you're playing with the go on over there. So I did. I showed up at the point of time I walked in and met one of the greatest men I've ever known in my life. Jim Langley, the late terrific person. And he said, well, you're on the T the group after next. He said you were playing with rattled off the names of one of whom was Sean Connery, which just what in the world is going on. By the way, Sean Connery carried his own bag. Talk about a man's man.
He, you know, caddy caddies is a very big part of the of the culture at Cypress. Walking is what he preferred to like to carry his own bag. He said he preferred to carry his own club. So he did. And, you know, I ended up I ended up not only playing with him, but giving him he needed a ride back to the lodge. And I had a rental car that was one of those big old Cadillacs like they used to make the the long version. And I had another passenger that was in our group named Howard Keel, who would be in an act.
You probably met. I sure knew how to kill. Yes, I sure did. Nice man.
So he killed them with us, too. He sat in the front seat passenger seat. I was driving these two icons back nervously along 17 Mile Drive past alone Cypress just to get them back safely, hopefully to the lodge. And I threw the bags in the trunk and I came around the driver's side and I saw the back left door was still open. Connery was in the in the back seat and I slammed the door rather forcefully without realizing that Connery still had his leg. His left leg was on the pavement and not in the car. And all of a sudden I heard this blood curling scream and I didn't realize what I'd shut the door on Connery. He kind of worked his way out of the out of the car and was hopping around in complete agony in the Cypress Point parking lot. And there was blood that was trickling out of his pants, trouser on that shin bone just above the ankle. And I even had slightly torn his his trouser, but he was in horrific pain. And I'm standing around like, what did I just do? Did I just injure James Bond? Did I just take him out of this tournament? How am I going to go back and tell Frank Trikinian that I've just taken one of the biggest stars from his celebrity field and sent him home to Scotland.
W.D. But even though there was a weird kind of satisfaction that I had done something that the likes of Goldfinger and Blofeld and all those had never done before, drawing blood from Bond, he did show these amazing powers of recovery. And within about five or 10 minutes, he was able to walk normally and hop back into the car and kind of let go of it. And off we went back to the lodge. I'm feeling just awful and humiliated and embarrassed. But when I got to the front of the live, he and Howard Keel said they were going to Club 19 for for lunch.
Would I want to join them? So all things forgotten, I went back and had lunch with James Bond, Sean Connery and Howard Keel. And again, how does golf do this? I have no idea, but I'll never forget that day. I can tell you that.
All right. So the Sean Connery thing just blows my mind. I mean, you know, he's talking about, you know, Goldfinger and and odd jobs and all these other guys couldn't take him out. But he takes him out in the parking lot of Cypress Point.
There was so much fun for us in college playing at Bel Air Country Club and Riviera in L.A. North in particular. The people would see. Can you list just off the top of your head? We didn't prep at all for this.
We don't prefer anything. And what names could just come to your head that you remember? Wait a second.
Let me set up one more second. Here's two Midwest kids that never have seen a celebrity in their life. All of a sudden now we're whatever we were 18, 19 years old and we're running into them. So yeah. So there was I remember Robert Stack. He used to have a show on TV all the time. Peter Falk was there. James Garner was, you know, Rockford Files.
And that's old folks that are listening to the show that are in their 30s or 40s are going to go like, huh? But he was a huge supporter of UCLA. Peter Uberoth was unbelievable. Pearl, we would see.
Oh, gosh. Jack Wagner. We would see Jerry West. Yes, Jerry West was a lot of fun to be around.
And how about I mean, when you're when you're tall, like we are trying to play golf, you see Jerry West walk out there. You're like, OK. And he was pure. He hit that.
He hit that little slider out there. He was tough. He was a tough guy. He liked to gamble.
Here's a couple for me. I'm going to throw the name out there and see if you know what actor he was. Max Baer. Oh, yeah. From Jethro, from the Beverly Hills. Right on.
Right on. Rowan Martin. George C. Scott sat there and put my shoes on.
I think I may have told the story, but I'll tell it again on the show. First time I'm walking into the live men's locker room at Bel Air Country Club, I'm pushing against the door and I can't open the swinging door. There's a like a porthole around a round window.
And I'm six three. I'm looking through this portal. I'm not seeing I'm like, what's there must be a chair back there or something. So I push one more time and finally hear like a little yelp. And so I pulled the door, kind of swung back to me.
So I let it open. It was Andy Williams. He's so sure I couldn't see him through the window. I remember Andy Williams was up there all the time. I can remember walking in to the men's lock or the grill. Wait a second, we weren't supposed to be in the grill. You were always in the grill. I wear the grill.
I love the grill. I was looking for a member. I was looking for my ball. I was trying to be a member.
I mean, you know, they tell you to just walk in like you own the place. You did. You were excellent at that.
I was doing my best. And I can remember meeting Steven George. Steven and George and walking out of that. And whoever was with me, if I remember, I don't remember. He said, you might want to remember those guys, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas. Oh boy. This was before any of it. This was in 1979. And you know, when you're a, you know, you're a super huge stud from the little small North County hillbilly.
And you go out to West LA, you know, you're living large out there. Yeah. There was a lot of, and most of the guys were pretty good guys, you know. Because it was kind of real.
They weren't going to be special amongst their people. And it was a fun place. And what a special place, Bel Air Country Club. Oh my gosh. Fantastic. Fantastic. All right. That's going to do it for the front nine.
Don't go anywhere. We got the back nine and the 19th hole coming up. This is Golf with Jay Delson.
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Visit ascensioncharityclassic.com. We're halfway there. It's time for the Back Nine on Golf with Jay Delsing. The Back Nine is brought to you by Fogelbach Agency with Farmers Insurance. Welcome back to Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host Jay.
Pearly is with me. We got our buddy John Boyle in the studio. Brad Barnes taking great care of us and we're going to the Back Nine sponsored by the Fogelbach Agency with Farmers. Ed Fogelbach has been a great friend of the show.
We appreciate his help and support and he will help you with any of his any insurance needs that you have. So this first interview is Nick Rigone. He's the senior executive chief marketing and communications officer with Ascension. And this is when they announced that there's going to be a damn PGA Tour event at Norwood.
Let's listen to this interview. We have Ascension. We're a large hospital system, actually the second largest in the country, and we're in 20 states. And in many of our states, we have a relationship with the PGA Tour, either with the Corn Ferry Tour or the Champions Tour, you know, sponsoring some of the tournaments. And a few years ago, we decided, you know, as Ascension, we're now a national brand. I spent my six years at Ascension rebranding the whole company, and we were beginning to look for signature brand moments that really we could shine a light on Ascension, the work that we do, and servicing our communities. And, you know, after the PGA at Belle Reve, it was such an enormous success. We thought, wouldn't it be amazing to bring a regular PGA Tour stop, not just to St. Louis, but to North County, to Norwood, to the Ferguson, Florissant, Jennings region, so we could raise money for charity, and begin to further catalyze some of the great investment that companies like Emerson and Worldwide and Centene or others are doing to make that region as strong as it can be. And so that was the genesis of creating the Ascension Charity Classic. And I have to tell you, you know, we launched this October 8th at a press conference that you were at and many others.
The feedback from the community, not surprisingly, has just been amazing. St. Louis loves St. Louis sports. And to have another flagship event, a regular PGA Tour champion stop at Norwood in North County that's going to raise money, raise charity, raise awareness, not just one year or two years, but for years to come. I think it's going to be a win for everybody. And we hope that we look back five or 10 years from now we say, man, that was a moment when the community really further invested in North County in the region, so that we could shine a light on it for the entire country to see this is a great model for urban renewables. So we're really excited by it. Well, you know what else just strikes stands out to me Nick is that our world has changed so much in the last three months and everything is everyone's talking about a new normal but you guys stayed strong and stayed committed to this event. And then we need this sort of leadership in our community and then just last week, we announced that Emerson is joining the party, as well as Worldwide.
Yeah, it was a big deal. We, you know we when we decided to create the Ascension charity classic and we hosted at Norwood we knew that Emerson we'd love to have them as a partner obviously they're headquartered right adjacent to Norwood and Emerson is an extraordinary company as you know, they are really not just the leader in charitable giving in St. Louis but their model for other companies across the country on how to how to sort of make charitable giving part of the DNA of your company and the fabric of the community and so to have them as a partner with us and Worldwide as well another company where giving back and investing in the community in their DNA it's in what they do has just been a blessing and to have those two during the pandemic step up and say this is important to North County. This is important to your charities Mary Grove, the boys and girls called the Urban League. This is important to our region and this is long term. It just speaks volumes about their commitment to our region to North County to bettering it for everybody and so, and we've had many many many other great companies stepping up as well. But I think as a community St. Louis is so lucky to have so many great corporate partners who take seriously the responsibility of giving back and I could tell you not every area of the country thinks that way.
Alright, so Pearl when this happened, I seriously thought somebody was punking me. I know that you were so pumped up with this. You've been wanting a major event to be established in St. Louis for so long. You've had great events, but they haven't been established. They're PGAs, you know, they come through once in a while. I know this absolutely pumped you up. Oh my gosh and to do it for North County to do it.
It's just man. It just checks all the boxes. Plus it's such a great golf course. I've got to play it multiple times with you the facility the clubhouse.
It's the tradition the trees of property. There's just so much good stuff about it and I'm glad you're pumped and I'm glad you're going to be ready for it. Well, the other thing you are there enough.
Superlatives to say about Ascension. I mean we they donated $75,000 to each of the three charities this year. We didn't have an event and it's never happened before in the history of the PGA Tour serious commitment. I just love it. All right. So our next interview is with Paul Azinger. This was fun. So Paul and I work together at Fox and we played together for years and years.
So let's listen to what Zing has to say. Remember when that first show goes the fitness trailer first showed up in the 80s and then kind of the rehab trailer was there as well because guys are going in there with injuries that had never been catered to before in the PGA PGA Tour till about the early to mid 80s. But boy all of a sudden now, it's like you bring your fitness trainer with you every week. If you're a top player Zina mini tour trying to break in when you're watching stop players. Good luck right when you're watching a practice round guys are out there with their wives or their girlfriends and their this the entourage everybody brings about 10 12 guys inside the ropes.
It looks like a parade out there. Yes on the practice rounds do I've seen practice rounds now with of all people Tiger Woods County I counted 14 people on the green might have been 12 people on the green in a Tiger Woods practice round. Never would you have ever seen that back when he first showed up I'll tell you.
He just gnarled him right back in behind the ropes when he he just wouldn't have ever had that you know that that was just it's just a change so much even since Tiger came out really the whole social media thing didn't start till 2008 that would have been 11 years in the Tigers career. And then, you know, that's why I just think it's harder to play I think I would have cared too much about if I had to brand myself self branding and marketing and all that is just changed the game I felt I feel it makes it harder peer pressure wise you get somebody that can send negative stuff to you but you're trying to build your brand through a social media. I really admire these players day I gotta tell you, they hit it great, and they hit it far, and they hit it high, and you might not both know, you got to have some courage to put it up there in the air for 10 seconds. You know what I'm saying there's not without risk. I just can't believe how they're good. I don't know if I could have done it because. Can you imagine if you show up without your entourage and without all that, how you're going to beat those guys.
I'm saying how was I going to get an entourage I had to go buy one. What do you think they're doing. Those guys aren't showing up for nothing. It's awesome to watch, because, you know, they still make mental mistakes and they still, you know, they'll make bad decisions and they'll miss putts and, but it's the same game that we played. You know, really the scores are kind of the same I just think mentally they've got an advantage over the entourage guys. That's why they hang on I think longevity seems to be something even with all this money they're going to be able to go and go and play and play and play.
Okay, so one of the things that is weird. When you get, you know, you go through the TV side. You're no longer playing. You, you, you know what's going on, but you're watching pretty dramatic change. You're watching your first of all, the Tiger Woods effect financially stupendous. It's just unbelievable right and you watch these, these great young players start making all of this money, and then you start seeing all of these other things bro grow out of this. So now we have all of our metrics the strokes game stuff that's all because of tiger, you know, it's all because everything just got bigger.
John, and more people cared. There's more attention there's more media, and to watch the way the players go out and brand themselves as zinger was talking about is just, man I had my hands full when I was playing you know what it was like I had actually did more than that than most, not necessarily on a national scale but kind of within the events I mean the number of cards you would always walk away with all the contacts the follow ups that you did, and I know because I had some buddies out there to they didn't do any of that stuff. Yeah, and it's paid dividends for you through the years, and they're doing it in different ways but I think I love what Paul said it's a double edged sword there's good and bad to that, it's worked well. Well for me I love the business side of the thing I love putting these little deals together with, you know, the companies and stuff they have but watching these players manage social media john, I just, and I know I'm old and, you know, fossil ish, but, man, that just doesn't interest me, but you go out there and watch these guys play a practice round, and there's 20 or 30 people in a group of three or four golfers, you know, I appreciate I think that I started hearing it first with Jordan speech several years ago when he would reference his team. So we kind of get get away from the eye which I thought was positive references team. Now, almost everybody talks about their team all the time. When Dustin won the Masters he talked about you know my team and you know there's a lot of truth to that obviously and they they get that, and you need solid people around you. I think if there was one thing I know I would change and I'm pretty sure you would too, is if we would have paid more attention to the team the people that directly around us. Oh my gosh, I mean seriously I mean, you know, we can go on personal reasons.
But the sports psychologist I had great, great experiences with it and then I got away from it, you know, strength coaches nutrition that kind of stuff. It all makes a difference in is it a half shot here there. Guess what, if it's a half shot here and there is the difference between making cuts missing cuts, keeping your card, losing your card, winning tournaments and not winning tournaments. That's why they're doing it. Yeah, there's no question about it.
I mean, and if anybody could if you had some sort of formula that could have created a half a shot a day for you, you're talking about, you know, two shots on a four on a four day tournament. I mean, come on. That's huge. That's massive.
That's absolutely massive. Yeah, the last thing that I'll say about this is that before Tiger came about Pearl, no one was doing anything strength wise. I was always trying not to J. Right, right. I was always trying to stay fit.
I wanted to be strong, but not call strong, not, you know, the way that is now it to say it revolutionized it is not even it's not big enough, but I think you had to do it the right way. I remember specifically when we were in college, not that you and I were going to go to the weight room. I'm not suggesting that was gonna have one. Yeah, they did probably right next to the library.
I don't know where that was either. I remember some of the guys did go and they got in serious trouble from the coach going like this isn't right. You can't do this. This isn't going to work. I think what we did instead of that was we played intramural basketball.
Yeah, we didn't that didn't go over very well either. I had a broken nose. Louis snapped his Achilles tendon and I'm not sure what happened to you.
I tried to fight everybody the night that the guy broke your nose and thank God nobody took me up on it because I would have got my ass kicked by every single guy in the other team. What are you laughing about? That's gonna wrap up. That's gonna wrap up the back nine.
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Grab your friends a cold one and pull up a chair. We're on to the 19th hole on golf with Jay Delsing. The 19th hole is brought to you by Michelob Ultra.
All right, welcome back. This is golf with Jay Delsing. Pearly is with me. This is our hundredth show. We are on the 19th hole. We got a cold one here.
The Michelob Ultra 19th hole and we'll be honest, we've got a cold one and a few empties. Yeah. So I got a question for you.
Okay. Has the radio show met your expectations? Did you have expectations?
Where are you right now in radio show world with what you've learned and experienced? That's a great question. What I'm thinking, you know what, John, I didn't really have expectations for what I want. The whole point of this is we want to try to grow the game. We want to be different when you and I put together a business plan for this thing. And we started talking about the word that the word that came rang true to me was being authentic, just being for both of us and just trying to have this chemistry, this wonderful chemistry that we have to try to come out on the show.
And I think for the most part, it does. You know, how many times have we been together on the golf course? And someone said to someone was following us and said, We don't know these people. And they go, I don't know what you shot today. And I don't know what happened.
But no one had more fun on the golf course than you two guys. My sisters would call me on the road and go, What were you guys laughing about the whole time? What happened on number 14? I'm like, I can't tell you. What were you talking about?
I don't remember. Right? Yeah. So yeah, it's really, really cool. Um, we had a quick little excerpt from David Farity.
So let's go to that Farity excerpt real quick. One of the things that is this struck me, David, every time that I've done these, these little events that are so fun and raise some money. The attitudes of these men and women are something we all could try to aspire to. I mean, here's a folks with no arms, no legs, maybe an eye taken out, gosh, who the hell knows what sort of ridiculous kind of things have happened to them. And yet, I mean, they'd go back over in a heartbeat if the government would let them.
Oh, every one of them. That's the most remarkable thing. You know, I've got a retired Green Beret here. He's a great friend of mine in Dallas, John Wayne Walding.
I know that you've met John. He was a sniper and lost his leg below the knee in Afghanistan. He's just finished the Dallas Marathon, you know, on his prosthetic leg and he would go back. He actually requalified as a sniper with one leg, which is the only person in the history of our armed forces to be able to do that.
But his wife convinced him that they needed to come out and he would go back in a heartbeat. The guys miss it. And there's an addictive thing, an adrenaline rush, you know, for our special forces and in particular, our special operators. You know, it's not like they enjoy getting shot at, but they kind of miss it. And it's extremely difficult for them to transition back into civilian life. It's, you know, I say to them all the time, hey, you know, you're a great soldier, but you're a civilian and they have to find find something that is kind of halfway badass, you know, to be able to do. And they also have to remain in contact. And that's what Battle Buddies is all about. You know, it's keeping these young men and women in contact with the people with whom they fought. And, you know, the suicide rate is horrific among our retired armed forces. And that's one of the reasons, you know, that they feel that they're no longer part of the team.
Maybe that they didn't complete their mission. And, you know, that's one of the things that we try to do in helping them transition, you know, along with building houses that, you know, they can move into after being in Walter Reed or Brooke Army Medical Center, you know, for a couple of years while they get their feet, their legs back underneath them, if they have any legs left, of course. And the other thing that amazes me is the sense of humor that they have. And I have to continually remind myself when I'm with them that though their attitude is so great and, you know, they wake up every morning and that leg is still missing.
You know, that face is still burned beyond recognition. And I just have so much admiration for their courage in dealing with it. And it makes me feel, you know, so insignificant in the great scheme of things and lucky, you know, to be protected by such people.
Okay, so we just put together, first of all, love this guy, somehow or another, we got paired when he first moved over from the European tour and played over in the US, we got paired together all the time. So we became really good friends. But what he's doing now with his Troops First Foundation, and I've got to tell you, my great dear friend, Jim Sowers, the CEO at Marcon, and Matt Weber, who's with Electrolux, just got together $50,000. And bought three service dogs for these, these heroes that these service dogs literally changed their lives. And what David has done in the way that he's done it is just been terrific. And I just, you know, appreciate the association, I feel great about being able to help.
You know, those those heroes, we never fought, you and I've talked about this before our dads. And it's a big deal to let these men and women know that we love them, that we support them, we care about them, and that we appreciate them. Yeah, that's a great combination you and Dave Fair to have. He's such a good guy, such a fun guy. And I love that he came on your show and you know, relative to the show, it's another another top top name that you've been able to drag in here for the betterment of an awful lot of things going on. And you've you've worked behind the scenes to raise the money for those dogs and other things to support the the troops that people don't know about. And so it's such a great it's such a great combo.
Yeah, they don't need to know about us. But I mean, you and I have we're talking about it, you and I have been part of raising money for two other dogs that we donated about five years ago. And it's, you know, listening to these heroes get on and tell us what it means to them.
I mean, there wasn't a dry eye in a place. And so, so it led the way with a lot of that, which is absolutely awesome. So whatever we can do to support him, and obviously, mostly you with what you do.
It's a lot of fun. Plus, he's, he's just a character to be around, you know, you have no idea what you're gonna have no idea. By the way, we need a chicken like he's got a rooster for our show. I just love his whole his whole setup on the stage.
Yeah, it's about as crazy random as you can get us in it. Alright, so, um, build a wit, the president of the St. Louis Cardinals came on the show, we had a great interview, but my favorite thing that he said, amongst ballpark village and all the great things he did was the way that he was going to close out the show for us. Let's have a listen. This is build with the third president of the St. Louis Cardinals and you're talking to Jay delsing. And wait, sorry, what's the name of the show?
golf with Jay delsing. Let me start. And it doesn't get better than that. That's our class because we both knew that needs to be the tag for us for as long as we get away with it. Absolutely.
It absolutely does. I, man, I want to thank Bob and Kathy Donahue again for supporting the show. They're just terrific people. 314805 2132 for Donahue printing and refinishing painting and refinishing sorry, and just just terrific people this show was not easy to put together john because we have been so fortunate to have some really cool people stuff guys that didn't get on here Brad Hall, Tony La Russa, Chris Carpenter, you know, so maybe when we do the recap for 2020, you know, we can do a two or three show cap and throw those guys on there.
But this is another show Pearl. Congratulations. Congratulations so much for being with me. Thanks for being with us. john Boyle. Thanks for hanging out with us tonight. We appreciate your support with Dr. Oldman Boyle and your friendship for all these years. Just don't check our facts too closely because you'll be disappointed. You'll be very disappointed.
