Jay Delsing spent 25 years on the PGA Tour and is a lifetime member of the PGA Tour and PGA of America. Now, he provides his unique perspective as a golfer and network broadcaster. It's time to go On The Range with Jay Delsing. On The Range is brought to you by Pro-Am Golf. Hey, good morning, St. Louis.
This is golfer Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay Perley. What's up?
Nothing, man. Just ready to get back to it. Exciting interview today and makes me think of a lot of college time stories.
Yeah, really good stuff. Alright, well, we formatted the show like a round of golf. So, the first segment is called the On The Range segment brought to you by our friends at Pro-Am Golf.
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Jay Delsing Golf LinkedIn is Jay Delsing. And Perley handles all of the stuff that comes in on Instagram because... It's all looking good. Everything's in order. Alright, so this show... I'm syrupy.
The more I listen to this show, I'm a sap. Why are you? Why is that? Do we have enough time for this kind of conversation?
Off the top of your head, why is that? I don't know. I guess as I'm aging, I'm feeling so... At least you haven't teared up yet. You're definitely syrupy, but I haven't seen it teared up.
No, but I could. I mean, a commercial comes up and it's a hallmark and I'm like, look at that card. Oh my, it's awful. But I got over an hour with Jim Nance. And we can't put it all in one show, obviously, so we're going to break it down to this weekend next. But I sit there and I just listen to that dude's voice and I'm like, is he talking to me? It adds a lot of class to the show, just for the record. Yeah. A lot of class. It's a little better off having his voice on there than ours.
Oh no, you do a great job, but that's world class forever. I mean, he named some of the names, Jack Whitaker, the predecessors to him, but he's more than in that field as far as you and I are concerned. Yeah, so we're going to cover a lot of things. We're going to talk about Bryson DeChambeau, the hottest thing on the PGA Tour right now. 100% is Bryson DeChambeau. Jim Nance, of course, we have this, I dug up this weird article about golf lingo and some of the stupid, weird, unusual verbiage that we have when we start talking about stuff. Most of us don't even know what it means. Exactly, and you'll hear it all the time on the commentators.
They don't know what it means either. We've got, just to talk a little bit about, I've got a cool new relationship with David Farity and Troops First. We've got, you know, we'll touch a little bit about the virus, we've had what, three tournaments? No, no, I'm not talking about the virus. You're not, you're not talking about it.
Good luck talking without me. Three tournaments, all right. We have three tournaments that we've had, you know, with those spectators. There's been a couple glitches, but I'm really impressed with the leadership from Jay Monahan. Really impressed with what he's done, setting up, you know, being flexible and changing protocols.
I haven't noticed the glitches, and I know you just mentioned that, mentioned that. I'm just so happy that there's some sports on TV. Absolutely.
And just thank goodness, and it never would have thought that golf would have been leading the way in the sports world, obviously, with NASCAR as well, but thank goodness it gets something on there. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, so, all right, so let's just jump in. So, we're going to go off script, just jump in? Yeah, what script?
Script? You know, so, John, it's so, it's hard to talk about PGA Tour without speaking about Bryson DeChambeau. First of all, the dude has gained, I don't know, 40, 50 pounds?
You know, it's a lot. Jay, I was with him, we had a little cocktail party at Tiger's Hero event down in the Bahamas, so that's, what was that? I mean, did you remember when Pearly was just kind of traveling around? He used to go to Phoenix, he'd go down to, what was it, NASA? That's called doing research for the show. Was it NASA? To bring some first-hand experience. I don't remember his area.
Are you trying to say research and development here? No, it's the last time I've been in a golf course. I've been at the golf course in the tournament bringing back the first-hand knowledge, the behind-the-scenes scoop. I remember sitting in this room looking at me and going, where's Pearly? How's this research coming, did you ever come back to the show? We get golf balls Pearly gets vacation.
I finally got some of the sniper golf balls, by the way. We're starting to see how this whole thing lays out, Meade, aren't we? You and I are in the show and Pearly's like, where's Pearly? Anyway, anyway, my wife and I, my lovely wife and I, were having a cocktail. I don't know that Bryson was having a cocktail, but I was. I got to meet him for the first time and just kind of hang out with him for a couple minutes. First of all, what a nice down-to-earth guy. If I wasn't as avid as I am watching golf, paying attention to golf, you wouldn't know the guy was anybody.
No, right. You could tell at the time that he had bulked up some, but he's really, really bulked up. And you know, I'm not sure the timing-wise because these hot, humid tournaments, he's kind of a sweat factory out there right now.
That's kind of a sweat factory. A downside for him. But I tell you what, he's also a launch monster. He is smashing drives, hit one drive 437 yards down in Cromwell, Connecticut. But he's my player to watch. When we go to that Ohio swing, he's my player to watch.
He's won at Memorial before. He gets to play there two weeks in a row. And those fairways over there, Pearl, are huge. Very wide.
But so I'm breaking this down a little more than just these drives because he's launching. Folks, he's got his ball speed up to almost 200 miles an hour off. Compared to what the other guys say. Ridiculous.
170, 160, 180. Is high, really high. Right. You know, what happens, you know, we always talk about how much longer it goes. What happens if he just hits it, what's he hitting, 20 past the other guys?
25? Oh, at least. He's like, he was, did you hear, he played with Rory and Phil on Thursday and Friday this week. He hit a drive and Mickelson walks by him and goes, that's nasty. Well, maybe that's why those guys couldn't hardly finish. I guess Rory actually kind of came back and finished. But maybe that sort of put him on his heels a little bit. And then all of a sudden somebody's blowing his 30 past him.
Those guys aren't, they're used to maybe guys hitting 10 past him, 5 past him, whatever. But not 30. Rory's a model. Phil's 50 years old and, you know, he's doing everything he can to hold on. Even with those skinny pants?
We got to talk about those. Bad look. Bad look. He looked like somebody threw an olive into like some sort of tight skin.
I was so hoping he was going to play well. And I see him, they show him on the driving range in the skinny pants. And I'm thinking to myself, there is no chance that he can play well with those things on. Yeah, the Euro looking folks.
And you guys start sweating through them and they're going to bust. In case you didn't see it, I mean, Phil's the guy who's lost 30 pounds. You know, he's kind of like, he does, but he doesn't need to be wearing a thong, you know, or anything that resembles.
You're really present on the thong, but that's even the worst image. I was thinking more of like a garlic stuffed olive, which I love. They're still coming out on both sides a little bit. Yeah, right. And those are good.
Those are good. But yeah, tough. Some of the commentators said something. You knew they wanted to. About the third hole, I think somebody said, well, Phil's really got a sporty look going on to him. Oh my gosh.
Sporty my ass. Could you imagine the conversations at break? Oh, yeah. They had to be busting again. Like, we have to say something because it's so there.
But we have to be somewhat kind of respectable a little bit. But anyway, Phil's hanging on. But Roy's the model when it comes to driving. He launches it high. But what Bryson's doing, here's what I love about Bryson. He is spinning his own vibe. He's dancing and listening to his, you know, the beat of his own drummer. And what he has done, which has gone completely under the radar, is he has made himself a good putter. And to watch him putt, you go, that's so uncomfortable.
But it's all that mechanics. Jon, what he's done is, so I dove a little deeper in that. What he's done is tried to figure out a way. Wait a second. Meet deep investigative journalism coming up right now.
So go. I'm not even saying exactly. We should have an episode on that. I'm just saying. J goes deep.
Let's have an episode on that. I'm just saying. I clicked one more link. That's closer to what I was thinking.
Yeah, so I clicked one more link. No, so what he's done, though, if you look at the strokes game putting and the stats, which, you know, 10 years ago, we didn't even have those. It's hard for me to fully understand those. But he's made himself a good putter. And what he's trying to do, Jon, is instead of, you know, when we were playing, it was how can you be as relaxed and comfortable as possible? What he's trying to do is figure out a range of motion with your joints where they're maxed and they don't move anymore and then putt that way so these taking out as many variables as possible exact opposite of what Ben Crenshaw would do. No question, but he's it's incredibly upright. It's almost vertical to the ground, right?
So when you're talking pendulum, there's true pendulum. When you and I talk, it's like, oh, don't come in off the line too much. Don't come in off the line forward or back too much, all that kind of stuff. That's remarkably difficult to do. And even it's the way to go.
And I still believe it and we should do it. But ultimately, if you can get perpendicular to the ground, then you're either on the line or you're not on the line. The way we talk is, well, don't come in too far.
It's a quarter inch and a half inch. He's back to the precision. But I want to make sure we talk about one thing with him. So he's been around for a while, Bryson. How many years has he been kind of prominent? Oh, gosh, well, he won the NCAA. He won the U.S. amateur as an amateur, but he's only been a pro for what? This is his fourth year, I guess.
He was even kind of prominent then, but certainly all four years as a pro. Have you seen anybody with the same length clubs and going his direction? It's going to be interesting because he keeps doing at least what you think he's going to do in the next couple of years.
It's coming. There's no doubt. Well, he's already won five times. Who else has won five times in their first four years on tour? That putting stroke is so awkward looking.
But man, is it effective. And he finishes T6 again this week up in Hartford. And you've got to take your hat off to this guy. And he said he can't figure out his wedges yet.
So you're finishing in the top 10. And I think he means that because of his newfound power. He's like, how do I gauge this to my 100 feels like I can't. I have to just breathe on it for it to go 100 yards.
Well, can you imagine him having your 60 degree sand wedge as long as your six iron? No. Well, all that stuff makes me anxious. I know. I know.
It makes me anxious. But he keeps doing what he's doing. Somebody else is going to start doing it.
It's a copycat league in all sports. And if you keep winning, you will get noticed. There's no doubt about that. That's going to wrap up the On the Range segment.
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I know, Jay. All those years out there on the PGA Tour and watching you hand yourself with such class and dignity, and you had some really good moments on our air at CBS, so we had the chance to document, and I loved running into you when we were at Bell Reef for the PGA Championship coming up on two years ago. That was a very special championship, the 100th playing of it, and when I was employed at the city and the surrounding areas come out and support Bell Reef and that championship, it was a wonderful, wonderful sight. You know, Jim, I'm incredibly partial to the city, obviously, but I don't ever remember hearing, even you mentioned it a couple times on the broadcast, and the players mentioned the spectators. We've done this for so long, and so I could have missed it a few times here and there, and I don't ever remember hearing that many great reviews about the city and fans before.
I don't think that anybody could ever say they topped that. You know, the PGA Championship moves around, and we actually re-aired it a couple of weeks ago, and Brooks Koepka joined me to talk about some of the moments, the key moments in the round. He actually did some play-by-play with me, and again, all we kept getting back to was the incredible support.
I mean, I've never had such a problem. It's a good problem to have just to make my way from the compound to the 18th tower because the chest was 10, 15, 20 people deep. You know, there was a visual in that final round. Tiger makes this remarkable Sunday charge, birdies the 72nd hole, and then there was this bridge that the players had to cross over, a walking bridge, to get to the scorer's tent back on the side of the clubhouse, and we have one of our minicams, Will Baker, following him, and Tiger gave a nod to the sea of spectators, and Will panned his camera to the left, and it was one of the most awesome shots I've ever seen in golf.
I mean, it looked like, well, it looked like there were 100,000 people down there waving at him, but whatever it was, 10,000 probably is closer to what the number would have been, but it was an incredible sight as they were cheering him on, walking to the scorer's tent, and saluting the great champion who would end up coming in second to Brooks Koepka, but that was St. Louis, and I got to go back and listen to the broadcast a little closer, and I, you know, at that moment in the show, I did pay homage to the remarkable support, the level of support that we have seen this week, unparalleled. Yeah, it's really, it was really an amazing thing, and you know, for me, Jim, what was really significant about that week is I felt like Tiger took that next step for kind of reclaiming his spot on the tour. Well, he would win the next major, you know, eight months later.
He would have what I called the return to glory. He won after an 11-year absence of taking a major, and I think that a lot of it had to do with what happened right there at Bell Reef. Of course, just shortly after that, he would win a little more than a month later. He'd win the tour championship, so it really, it kind of traced back to that day, which was a crazy final day. He didn't even hit a fairway on the front side and still shot three under on the front, shot 64 for the day, but you know, you also had Brooks Koepka as your champion, which he would come back and defend successfully when the PGA moved to its new date in May of 2019. You were winning again, so I mean, it was an incredible leaderboard. We had Justin Thomas in contention.
Adam Scott, Adam was right there playing with Brooks in the final pairing. And many other luminaries that were, you know, all right there on the fringe, so it was enough in my mind to earn yet another PGA Championship to Bell Reef whenever the schedule will allow. Yeah, that was spectacular. Jim, I did my prep for this talk. I'm so thrilled to be able to just hang out with you.
And man, my hat is off to you, thank you, off to you with all of the accomplishments. But since we started on golf, let's just stay with golf. I mean, you started in 1986 at the Masters, and you've been hosting at Augusta since 1989. I can't tell you, A, how much I miss sports, and B, how much your voice has just been symbolic with my comfort of sport. And, you know, it's like something's missing.
It's like you're sitting at the family table and somebody's gone. Well, I put a lot of people to sleep during these Saturday and Sunday golf shows. I've been accused of that. I actually get that quite a bit. And, you know, people will actually write me or tell me that there's no nap, that's more soothing or deeper than the Saturday or Sunday afternoon golf nap listening to Jim Nansen watching CBS Golf. And I know they mean it as a compliment.
I think they do anyway. Rodney Harrison, when he was playing for the Patriots one time, walked into one of our meeting rooms and said, Man, I owe you so much. I get the best naps in the offseason listening to you. And, you know, it's awesome to CBS Golf and how you do it. And he put me to sleep every time. Again, I know he meant it as a compliment. But, you know, I work with Phil Simms. I love Phil for 13 years. He never let that one go away.
He reminded me so many times about what Rodney said. But it is what it is. You know, golf's a relaxing thing to watch, you know, and you want people to get kind of like into it, you know, like lose themselves in it. If that means they nod off, you nod off. But all I can tell you is I'm not close to falling asleep.
I mean, there's probably a lot more intensity than maybe my voice reflects. But, man, I hang on every shot. I just, I'm hopelessly in love with the game.
You know, I never had anywhere close to, you know, a career that anybody would ever care about as a player. But I always wanted to be a bird beast. And, I mean, I was freakishly like stalking the PGA Tour and golf when I was a kid.
I couldn't get enough of it. You know, my parents would go out of their way to make sure, drive me to tournament sites and drop me off and let me run around for the day, knowing that I wouldn't get in any high jinks or trouble. But the number of tournaments that I could tell you that my parents, you know, with a modest income, what they did to let their son live the dream of being around this tour, whether it was dropping me, well, I can tell you this for starters. Every year, our spring break, we were living in New Jersey during my high school and grade school years. They would drive for two days, two days, stop one stop 600 miles down the road, stay in a motel, get back on the road. We would drive two days to go to wherever the tour was located that given week in March. Jacksonville, this is before the Players' Championship at the old Jacksonville Open. Inverary, Doral, you name it, wherever our break fell, my folks would drive four days total round trip.
They would drive me to a tournament, buy me a ticket, and allow me to go out and run around and watch the PGA Tour. What a story. I never lost that appreciation.
You know, just now having a chance to have the access of sitting behind the 18th hour, I still look down and remember the kid that was running around in awe of it all. But Jim, you were a great player. I mean, you played on a terrific University of Houston team.
I hate to shoot down a dear friend. I've never been called a great player, so I do need a copy of this show. I need to hear that a few more times.
You got it, man. I was a good enough player to make the University of Houston golf team, but I was completely outclassed talent-wise when I got there. The coach thought I had some ability and thought that I had the potential to maybe be able to help his golf program, which was a great golf program. Terrific program at the time.
Nothing to the cause. I was the 18th man on an 18-man golf team. Now, I might have been 17th one or two weeks along the way, but that would have been a fluke. You had to turn in a score every day, Jay. You had to go out and play. Everything had to be holed.
The coach would set up your groups and tell you where you'd go play, and the scorecard had to come back signed and attested. I was out of my league. You know, I didn't have that burning passion. I loved the game as a player, but the passion was to be able to be a guy that was going to comment on it and tell the stories behind it. That's pretty cool.
And luckily for me, fortunately for me, that came true. You're talking about Coach Williams as well, right? The legendary Coach Williams.
Yeah. He was the man. I mean, he had one of his former players named Ron Weber, who was the head pro at the Woodlands. He had been a tour player early in the 60s and had a couple of runner-up finishes on the tour. Mr. Weber came back and was the head pro, and he saw me hitting balls on the range one day.
This is in the summer of 77. I'm all set, enrolled at the University of Texas, a month from actually going there in Austin. He saw me hitting balls, and somebody made an introduction, and he said, wow, what's your background? I told him I had just moved down from graduating high school in New Jersey. And he said, you can really play. Are you going to play college golf at Texas?
I said, oh, no. No, at one time I thought I actually talked to the Clemson coach, but they didn't show a lot of interest, so I'm going to go to Texas and pursue broadcasting and this kind of thing. He said, I'd like you to meet Dave Williams.
I said, of course, I knew who he was. Dave Williams needs to see you. He needs to meet you. And he took me into his office behind the pro shop, or the side of the pro shop. He got on his Rolodex, and he called Dave Williams right in front of me, right in my company.
And Dave Williams said, yeah, I'll come out and see him. He said, when are you available? I leaned over, and I said, anytime.
I'm wide open. He said, well, how about tomorrow? I said, sure. He said, we'll be out here at 9 o'clock in the morning. So I showed up the next day, and Mr. Weber introduced me to Coach Williams as I'd already loosened up and hit some balls on the range, and I was putting. And I went over and very respectfully met the great man. And he said, Jimbo, he called me Jimbo.
He said, I want you to go out and play nine holes. I'm going to follow you around in the cart. Don't even acknowledge I'm there. It's like I'm not even there.
Don't even think about it. You go play nine holes. I'm going to watch it, and then we'll talk after the round. I said, when's a good time?
Mr. Weber said, the tea's open. Let's go. So he ended up driving the coach around, his former coach. So the pro and the head coach sat in the cart for nine holes. I went birdie birdie one and two.
I'm not going to make you take a card here yourself. But I birdied the first two holes, and I played the last seven holes four over. Four bogeys, three pars to go with the two early birdies. I shot 38.
I thought I'd probably thrown it away with that scratchy finish. But when I walked off the ninth hole, and I'd hit some decent shots, but I was never consistent. The coach came out of his cart, and he said, Jimbo, how would you like to be a Cougar?
Oh, my God. And I said, University of Houston Cougar? He said, yes, I want you to play for my golf team. Now, I can't offer you a scholarship, but I'd like you to come to our school and be a part of my team. They're coming off a national championship, by the way. So I did.
I had to apply before I could enroll and get accepted. All that came together, and then in late August of 1977, I went over to the campus and met the six other freshmen that were part of my class. And these are guys that you know, Freddie Couples, Blaine McAllister. These are buddies of yours. And a guy named John Horn, who you may have played with. I did play with John Horn. Horn, he was a great guy. Great guy. I just talked to John.
His birthday is a few weeks ago. Great pal. So they were the three-star recruits who got scholarship money. I was just, you know, a flunky walk-on kid. And I ended up after the first semester. Actually, after the first year, I ended up moving in to the dorm with those three. The four of us shared a two-bedroom, one-bathroom suite. And they became lifetime buddies. And I got to be on the Houston golf team. Man, it was a powerhouse.
It was a powerhouse back then. I got recruited a little bit by Dave Williams and had some of the, for me, you know, everything was done, Jim, by telephone. And I had never met him. I read about him and just in books.
And people told me about him. And we had some strange conversations because he'd said one time to me, Jay, do you look good in red? And I'm thinking, man, I don't think I look good in anything. You know, he said Cougar Red.
Do you look good in Cougar Red? And I said, yes, sir. You know, I... Exactly.
I know it's 100% accurate. That's exactly what he said to me. How would you like to be a Cougar? You know, so he had so much pride in being a Houston Cougar and that Cougar Red. And that's when he, you know, when he talked to you.
I mean, I know exactly. I can see him saying it to you, Jay. That's going to wrap up the front nine. So come back. Perle and I are going to be here, but we get to listen to more Jim Nance.
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Welcome back. It's Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay, got pearly with me. Brad Barnes is taking care of us with our buttons and knobs and things like that and hopefully making us sound halfway decent. But we're on the Back Nine brought to you by St. Louis Bank.
And they've been a great friend of the show. All right, we're going to go right back into the... Good. It's relaxing. It's enjoyable. I get to reminisce. There's a lot of good things listening to Jim Nance.
Yep. Jim Nance, guys, on Golf with Jay Delsing. ...to the court with Archie Diocchino.
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What a fortunate thing for the number of people that we have met. Let's just stay with golf. You have the NFL. You have your NCAA hoops and all the other things that you're doing. But the game of golf has allowed me to hang out with people that I had no business knowing. And I can't say enough about this game. And I can't thank it enough.
And I can't do enough to give back to it. Beautifully said. And that is golf. And golfers, if they can really be honest with themselves.
And some, I think, people are so in the middle of their careers and competing so fiercely that they don't have that reflection or nostalgic mechanism in them yet. But I do hear more people extolling the greatness of the game for golf than any other sport and athlete talks about their given sport of choice. Golfers are an appreciative bunch.
They're incredibly loyal. But if there's a constant refrain and message, it's just how golf has put people, put us into a position that's just unimaginable. It is the people that you meet through this game. And look, you went to UCLA. I mean, you were living in your rounds of golf.
Your home course is Bel Air Country Club. I can only even imagine right there for starters. As a kid, the people, the legends you got to meet. But the game has a grateful heart to it.
It has a soul. And the people that are able to express it like you, I'm on their team. Those are the people I want to be with because that's where I'm coming from.
Just exactly like you expressed it. I can remember when I was, I think I was 19 years old, 18 or 19 as a freshman. And I'm just standing on the putting green. I'm still in awe of West L.A. I don't know what I'm doing out in California. You know, I'm just so excited to be there. And I get a tap on the shoulder and I turn around and this guy says in this kind of Scottish accent says, young man, would you be interested in playing nine holes of golf with me? And I turn around. Jim, it's damn Sean Connery. And I said, I can't be for you. My gosh, I'll do anything you want, you know, because this is James Bond.
But this was what? Nineteen seventy nine. Oh, my gosh. It was like royalty. Seventy nine, even though he's always going to be regarded as one of the legendary actors of all time.
Nineteen seventy nine. I mean, name the biggest star today. And that's what you basically you you got tapped on the shoulder and walked in.
And how does a 19 year old in any other space get to hang out with someone like him? But it's the game of golf. It is the game of golf. And now I'm not trying to, you know, not usurp or match that story, but I had the freakish chance to play golf with Sean Connery myself. It's it's a doozy. But it was my first year of broadcasting the AT&T Pebble Beach program.
So you're going to go back to the mid 80s, 1986. And I had played golf at Cypress Point. Again, what am I doing there with Frank Surekin and our father of golf television and Ken Venturi.
I first time ever laid eyes on Cypress. I played with those two and I had the round of my life. I'm not going to lie. In fact, people today, they play with me and say, there is no way you ever did what you said you did. But I made five birdies on the front nine J for starters.
Wow. OK. And I birdied 13 for a six birdie and I still shot 77 with six. But that night, I'm at dinner. I'm just a young kid hanging on the coattails of all these legendary broadcast people. And we're at the lodge. And and trick any and says at the end of the night, after a lot of wine had been consumed by most of the bunch, not me, I didn't even know much about any worldly things like wine at that time in my life.
Not even what for not even four years removed from college. Jimmy, I'm supposed to play tomorrow with a couple of guys over at Cypress. You go back and play, go into the shop and tell Jim Langley that I couldn't make it and that you're going to play in place of me. I've made a game. I'm not going to tell who you're playing with, but go on over there.
So I did. I showed up at the point of time I walked in and met one of the greatest men I've ever known in my life. Jim Langley, the late terrific or cypress point. And he said, Well, you're on the tee the group after next. He said you were playing with, you know, rattled off the names of one of whom was Sean Connery, which just what in the world is going on. By the way, Sean Connery carried his own bag. Talk about a man's man.
He, you know, caddy caddies is a very big part of the of the culture at Cypress. Walking is what he preferred to like to carry his own bag. He said he preferred to carry his own club. So he did. And, you know, I ended up I ended up not only playing with him, but giving him he needed a ride back to the lodge. And I had a rental car that was one of those big old Cadillacs like they used to make the long version. And I had another passenger that was in our group named Howard Keel, who had been an act you probably met. I sure knew how to kill. Yes, I sure did. Nice man.
So he killed them with us, too. He sat in the front seat passenger seat. I was gonna be driving these two icons back nervously along 17 mile drive past alone cypress just to get him back safely, hopefully to the lodge. And I threw the bags in the trunk and I came around the driver's side and I saw the back left door was still open. Connery was in the in the back seat and I slammed the door rather forcefully without realizing that Connery still had his leg. His left leg was on the pavement and not in the car. And all of a sudden I heard this blood curling scream and I didn't realize what I'd shut the door on Connery. He kind of worked his way out of the out of the car and was hopping around in complete agony in the Cypress Point parking lot.
And there was blood that was trickling out of his pants trouser on that shin bone just above the ankle. And I even had slightly torn his his trouser, but he was in horrific pain and I'm standing around like, what did I just do? Did I just injure James Bond? Did I just take him out of this tournament? How am I going to go back and tell Frank Trikinian that I've just taken one of the biggest stars from his celebrity field and set him home to Scotland?
W.D. But even though there was a weird kind of satisfaction that I had done something that the likes of Goldfinger and Blofeld and all those had never done before, drawing blood from Bond, he did show these amazing powers of recovery. And within about five or 10 minutes, he was able to walk normally and hop back into the car and kind of let go of it. And off we went back to the lodge. I'm feeling just awful and humiliated and embarrassed. But when I got to the front of the lodge, he and Howard Keel said they were going to Club 19 for for lunch.
Would I want to join them? So all things forgotten. I went back and had lunch with James Bond, John Connery and Howard Keel. And again, how does golf do this? I have no idea, but I'll never forget that day. I can tell you that that is a fantastic story. Jim, your first year down at Augusta was eighty six, right? And you weren't on the 18th yet. You were on the 16th, 16, 16. And that's the year that Jack probably shouldn't have been. Be honest. I mean, I don't know how Frank entrusted me with that, but I was at the 16th hole. Well, it's late in the game, as you know, and we had announcers starting with Bob Murphy stationed at the temple all the way in. So by the time the action gets to 16, there's been a lot of commentary following the lead groups. Been a lot of material, anecdotal things that have been said.
And, you know, I'm highly inexperienced at this point. And the Jack Nicklaus epic six green jacket performance is unfolding. I mean, it was it doesn't even feel real to this day, especially the more time lapses and goes by. They re aired the 86 Masters the week of Augusta this year, and a lot of people commented on it and reached out to me, hearing me from back then, and even showing me on cameras, looked like a kid, you know, still in high school. But I can remember the raw feeling of nervousness that day and just trying to get through that show without saying something stupid or something that wouldn't be worthy of a CBS broadcast. And fearful that, you know, I might be I might be one and done here.
You know, I'm just hoping to figure out a way to get back for 87. And anyway, luckily for me, some some magical things happen with the with the competition. Jack hit a shot at my hole that came off the slope and flirted with the cup before settling about three and a half feet below the hole. And I didn't say anything after he hit the shot and walked around water's edge.
Frank kept his cameras trained on Nicholas. He never cut away from it. And I I did like I did last year when Tiger won the green jacket. I just laid out.
I thought, man, the visual so strong. And if I try to insert myself in this thing right now, I'm going to I'm going to sound stupid. This will be grounds for dismissal. So finally, Jack got over the pot. And when he knocked it in the cup, I said the bear has come out of hibernation. And I don't know how I came up with that line or why I said it, but at first I felt like maybe somebody had already said that. Soon as it left my lips, I wanted to like reel it back in off the satellite. But there is no such thing as being able to erase a comment on live television.
It's gone back down into people's living rooms about a second later. And so I was beating myself up pretty hard for the remainder of that show. We still had Norman and Kite to come through and some significant things happen with both of them at 16. And then I watched the rest of the tournament unfold, including the green jacket ceremony from my perch at 16. Before I walked back to the compound that we went off the air and just couldn't believe that.
I've been eyewitness to this amazing, unthinkable 46 year old Jack Nicklaus victory. And I was still kind of feeling a little bit down on myself, beat myself up for what I thought had been a comment that had already been used. And there's a story here, but I'll spare you. I was in the area of a trick in the end when I got to the compound driven there by Venturi, who had seen me walking and pulled up in a golf cart and offered me a ride the rest of the way to the CBS compound. And I got in front of Frank, who you knew Frank well. He respected you so much. You know, Frank got to know all you guys really well. There's some guys you just thought were a brighter cut above you.
You definitely were one of those guys. I saw Frank. I said, thank you for allowing me the chance to be part of this, Mr. And I said, I'm really sorry about that comment. I said, it's 16. He said, what the hell are you talking about, son? I said, the bear has come out of hibernation. He said, well, what's your problem with it? And I said, well, I believe somebody else had already said it before I did.
He said, no, they didn't. Only you. And it was a great line, and you're going to be doing this for a long time, son. Now get the hell out of my office. Okay, so I want to jump right into it, but let's just break for the back nine, and we'll break it down on the ultra 19th hole. We let the NFC in both kickoff returns and punt returns. And the Colts have had a hard time all season covering kicks. It's Hester trying to work it back to the middle.
Gets past the first wave, and here he goes. It's Hester inside the 30. Hester's going to take it all the way for a touchdown.
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So, thank you. Marcon is based in St. Louis, Missouri, and is the largest distributor of general electric compliance parts in North America. USA Mortgage is doing it again. Joe Scissor and his staff have lowered rates again this month, and they will waive closing costs if you want to refinance to get cash out, lower your rate, shorten your term, or eliminate that costly unnecessary mortgage insurance. If you are purchasing a property, they can issue a pre-approval letter within minutes. They are the largest mortgage company in the state of Missouri, and their volume allows them to quote the lowest rates. Don't waste your time with the national online brokers. USA Mortgage is employee-owned and operated right here in St. Louis. Joe Scissor has closed over $500 million in loans in nearly 30 years in the business, and over $2 million alone to Delsings.
Grab your friends, a cold one, and pull up a chair. We're on to the 19th hole on golf with Jay Delsing. The 19th hole is brought to you by Michelob Ultra. Welcome back to Golf with Jay Delsing.
We are coming to the 19th hole, clearly one of our favorite times of the show and times of life. And it's brought to you by Michelob Ultra, which I'm just delighted to have just a powerhouse brand like Ultra be involved. You know, Brooks Koepka is their kind of spokesperson. I like the commercials they've got with him, absolutely. Yeah, it's pretty neat.
All right, so the gym man stuff. First of all, let me thank Kathy and Bob Donahue for supporting the show. Their painting and refinishing business is blowing up right now. If you have any sort of work you want done with your home, call Kathy and Bob. They're terrific people.
They do a great job. John, I started something before I jump into the nance. I started this week, no, last week, a Delsing report where I'm actually doing some product review. It's brought to you by Pro-Am Golf, and it's pretty interesting stuff. I did a wedge series with Titleist.
I did a laser, a Leupold laser. All your social media, your radio show, and now you've got a YouTube channel. Yeah. The waves are flooded with Jay Delsing information.
It's pretty scary. I'm doing it. You know how sometimes, bro, like with Sniper brand golf, you've got a real position. And you're hawking at a golf ball internationally. That's right. I'm not.
I'm going shotgun theory, Pearl. Oh, oh. Well, some things never change. There is no doubt about some things never change.
When does the man sleep? I didn't want anyone to think that I was focusing too much. Yeah, not going to worry about that.
Not going to worry about that. Let's throw the Sniper thing in there real quick. We just got an endorsement and an agreement done with David Farity.
So, folks, every dozen balls, and hats for that matter, that we sell with the Sniper brand logo and a dollar will go to troops first. That's awesome. Yeah, it's really awesome. And just doing stuff with Farity. I mean, just the positive energy, guys all over the place, too. Just cool stuff. We got a lot of shotguns between the two of us. Oh, yeah, a few.
You know what? The Jim Nantz thing, I can't wait for next week's show as well because he's going to be on, you know, just hearing him is so relaxing. It's almost like a family friend walked in the door or something.
Yeah, it doesn't, you know, he was kind of teasing or making light of himself on that a little bit through the interview. It is relaxing. It is never boring. It's just relaxing. It's comforting. The sincerity. And the guy, it's a lot of positive, but you don't feel like it's forced.
He just sees the positive in stuff. Guys, that's going to do it for another show. Man, they haven't kicked us out. I don't know what to say. I mean, Pearl, thanks for being with me and me. Thanks for doing this. Next week, we got another episode of Jim Nantz that's Golf with Jay Delsing.
Get him straight, St. Louis. That was Golf with Jay Delsing brought to you by Whitmore Country Club. Tune in next Sunday for more from Jay, John and the other pros and experts from the golf world. In the meantime, you can find all of Jay's shows at 101 ESPN dot com, as well as at J Delsing Golf dot com.
