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It is our goal to infuse you with faith and truth and courage to help you stand strong on the front lines. My big question, do you have a multi-generational mentality? As a child of God, are you not just thinking about the time in which we live but the world in which your kids or grandkids or great-grandkids will live in?
Are you making deposits? Are you working strategically for the coming generations? Or do you have the mindset of we're out of here any minute, it's only gonna get worse, why bother? If that is your mindset, if the latter is your mindset, Jesus is coming any minute, you can see the world crumbling around us, who's even thinking about next generations?
We're not gonna see the next generations. If that's your mentality, I want to suggest to you that in having that mentality you open a door to the devil himself because he is absolutely thinking in a multi-generational way and he is absolutely planning in a multi-generational way and if we don't have plans, if we're not making deposits into the next generations, he certainly will. Let me read to you from Psalm 78. Psalm 78, it's a maskil of asaph. A maskil is a wise saying. My people hear my teaching.
Listen to the words of my mouth. I'll open my mouth with a parable. I will utter hidden things, things from of old, things we have heard and known, things our ancestors have told us. We will not hide them from their descendants. We will tell the next generation the praiseworthy deeds of the Lord, the power and the wonders he has done.
He decreed statutes for Jacob and established the law in Israel. So it goes on from there, which commanded our ancestors to teach their children. So the next generation would know them, even the children to be yet to be born and they in turn would tell their children. If you talk to a religious Jewish person and ask that person why do you do what you do, of course they'll give you a spiritual answer, but part of that answer if you're talking to a man, he'll say I learned it from my father, who learned it from his father, who learned it from his father, going all the way back to Moses. In their view, they're fulfilling what Moses passed on from generation to generation.
Think within the Torah, after the Shema, the words hero Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one, where the Lord is our God, the Lord alone. After those words are spoken, one of the commands is to teach these things diligently to your children. Repeat them to them.
Impress them on them. And you think of certain religious rights like the Passover. Why do you do this? So that your children will ask you why you do this, so that they will learn from these things, because every generation in Israel had to have its own encounter with God, and if it didn't have its own encounter with God, as a result it would backslide. So the children of Israel, after coming into the Promised Land, the end of Joshua 24, then the early chapters of Judges, coming to the Promised Land, it says that they served the Lord as long as Joshua and the elders were alive who had seen the works of the Lord, but when they died, because that next generation had not seen the power of God and encountered God for themselves, they worshiped idols, they fell away. And it's the same in the church world, that your kids are not serving a grandfather God. The God of your God is your father. Well, he's not grandfather to them. They have to know him as father.
They have to know him as God, and that means that in raising our children and having the next generation and pouring into the next generation, we are thinking in multi-generational ways, with the goal being that our kids or grandkids or great-grandkids grow up in a better world than we did, that our kids or grandkids or great-grandkids grow up in a world where the gospel is spread more, where liberties for the gospel have spread more, where the quality of life has improved, that we're thinking in these terms. The idea that we're out of here any minute and that there's no reason to think about the future is a dangerous and detrimental view. It's what I heard when I got saved almost 53 years ago, that Jesus was coming any moment, that we're out of here very soon, that the prophecies had all lined up. And listen, I believe in living with a sense of urgency. Why? Because we only have one life. If you get around me, if you walk with me, if you talk to people who know me, I am on the go. I'm stretched out. I'm not sitting back thinking, hey, we've got 80, 90 years. No, I'm thinking we've got one life, and the stakes are high, and every day people hang between life and death. So by all means, we go for it. By all means, we pour ourselves out.
By all means, we run our race. I preach on that all the time and preach it to myself. In fact, God has to remind me to rest because I have such a runner mentality. Not only so, but none of us know the moment of our death. So if you want to be ready to meet the Lord, you have to be ready at any time to meet the Lord. Plus, if we love Him, we're not looking for opportunities to sin. How much more time do I get to sin before Jesus comes, or before I die? Not if you love the Lord.
You're just looking for opportunities to serve Him. So the idea of His coming any moment, and therefore I don't think about the future, it serves no purpose at all. And it is completely unbiblical. When Jesus says, don't think about tomorrow, give no thought, it means don't be anxious.
Don't be anxious about tomorrow. But the idea that we're just saying about the here and now, because the end of the world is soon, is a terribly destructive and unhelpful idea. Because what it means is we won't get involved culturally. That we won't get involved in day-to-day things that affect the world around us. That we won't get involved as being a salt and light in politics. That we won't do that because everything's going down the tubes, it doesn't really matter. And because of that, others with other agenda, and Satan himself with his agenda, they're going to see that their agenda comes into power, and comes into play. And that's why we see things as they are in America in many ways, because many in the church in the last generation thought, we're out of here any minute, and the rapture is coming any second, and there's no reason to be planning and thinking ahead. Now you may say, Mike Brown, who do you think you are? I believe in an any minute rapture, and I don't think like that at all.
Wonderful. I'm not speaking to you. I'm speaking to those who do believe in an end-to-minute rapture, and have thought that way, and do think that way. And trust me, I've met plenty over the decades and decades ago that would have been someone of my mentality, instead of a long-term plan and a long-term vision.
Let me give you some examples. We read a lot now about the Long March. Christopher Rufo in his book about the the leftist revolution talks about it in depth, but many have talked about it for years. That Marxist communist thinkers in the 60s looked at America, looked at the state of America, saw that calling for kind of a proletariat revolt in America would not play out the way it played out in other countries, that they needed to find other aspects of class warfare, and that coming in through the front door where the radical ideology would only grab a minority of people. And what they needed was a larger strategy, a longer-term strategy, and it's called the Long March. And what that entailed was now getting involved in the school system, in the educational system, becoming professors and educators and thinkers and influencers, and little by little getting the ideas into the campuses until they became the dominant views on the campuses, to the extent that now this radical Marxist ideology that divides the world into oppressor and oppressed and colonizer and colonized is just common in our universities across the country. And it came up in the BLM protests, it's coming up in the anti-israel protests now. It was a long plan, and now we see the manifestation of it. You know, it's like you you don't eat right for 30 years and so you go to the doctor because you're not feeling well, something's wrong, and you find out that you've destroyed your heart, or you've destroyed your liver, or you've destroyed some other part of your body, and it's too late to fix it now because of, but you didn't see it.
You didn't see it until the the symptoms became more acute, and then you noticed it. That's what's happened in our schools. I have quotes from gay activists, and they're talking about their strategy in the 60s, and they said we're gonna write the revolution into law.
That's almost a verbatim quote. We're gonna write the revolution into law, and they went about doing that, and others in the educational system with our children. They've had certain cultural agendas, and they've then sought to bring these into the, I was going to use the word infiltrate, but they're they're working the part of the system. It's all the infiltrating when you're part of the system, right, and and legitimately in there, hired legitimately or voted in legitimately, then you just can can implement your system, and they've done it, and radical feminists with their ideologies. You think radical feminism affected America with groups like W.I.T.C.H., which stood for, they were a radical feminist group began in the late 60s. You think that they changed American culture, W.I.T.C.H., which stood for the Women's International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell? No, that's not how things change. It changed through, these ideas became more mainstreamed and more acceptable, so people with very different visions for America have been working hard strategically, sometimes brilliantly, tirelessly to implement their agendas, and they're not going anywhere, and I mean maybe they're thinking the world's gonna end because of global warming or something like that, but otherwise they're going on with their agendas, going on with their plans, and many of us think we're out of here, and then the worse it gets, the more we say we're out of your friends. It's a dangerous destructive mentality, and it's anti-biblical, because a biblical mentality is a multi-generational mentality. It's absolutely critical that we embrace it and understand it, lest things get even worse in the days to come.
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Welcome back to the Line of Fire. Michael Brown coming with you live from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Just having a blessed beautiful time with the Pentecostal Assemblies of West Indies. About 150 leaders have gathered together just precious to worship with them, pray with them, and a privilege to minister the word to them. And Saturday morning God willing flying to Israel so please pray for that trip.
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So these were recited in the journey up to Jerusalem for annual feast ascending up to Jerusalem. Unless the Lord builds the house, the builders labor in vain. Now it's interesting that it's talking about the house when Solomon was building the house of the Lord, right? Unless the Lord builds the house, the builders labor in vain.
Unless the Lord watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain. In vain you rise early and stay up late toiling for food to eat for he grants sleep to those he loves. Now the word for in vain is shav.
The word for sleep is shena. Obviously they sound completely different but in spelling the way they're spelled here in Psalm 127 there's only one letter difference between them and it's the contrast is even more clear. The in vain versus sleep versus rest. So I used to look at that as part one of the psalm and now a separate almost unrelated part. Children are heritage from the Lord offspring a reward from him like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children's born in one's youth blessed as the man whose quiver is full of them they will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court. About 20 years ago I realized wait wait wait there's a connection here. If I saw it before it didn't really dawn on me in a major way that that the rest that God gives and the sleep that he gives to those he loves comes also in the form of sons of children because the dad can rest while they work that that as you've raised your kids they can now carry on things that you were doing and you can rest and there's something about raising up not just physical sons and daughters but spiritual sons and daughters and every day as as I go to sleep at night we've got spiritual sons and daughters preaching the gospel all around the world and making an impact for Jesus all around the world and and every day as we sleep we have believers around the world using our materials Jewish objections to Jesus and debates with rabbis and different things and and they they are in turn they are in turn taking those materials and using them and disseminating them in many languages and many different formats around the world while I'm sleeping is there something to it's multi-generational it's it's one reason why I joyfully pour into multiple different ministry schools every single year now that I don't have our own schools we just put all the classes for fire school of ministry online as the school got very small a few years back so it's my joy to pour into the next generation all the time not just next generation of leaders as a spiritual father it's a joy and privilege to do that all the time but also to the next generation of younger students as we pour into them on a regular basis you know kids that are college age and and and look our grandkids range down from 22 to 17 I believe that their purposes regard for their lives and callings of God on their lives and what about their kids and so until Jesus returns we think in multi-generational terms it's it's essential and we think okay how are decisions that we're making today affecting the coming generations how are decisions that we're making today going to affect the the kids or grandkids or great-grandkids that we have the coming generations that come into this world if we just say well look it's only getting worse and you know we know prophecy says it's only getting worse till Jesus returns what if it doesn't come for five generations then what what if it doesn't come for ten generations can you guarantee me prove to me in Scripture by Scripture without any possible doubt that that's not possible no I don't think you can I certainly want to be the case that he comes sooner rather than later but we can't prove that guarantee it based on Scripture so what it what happened to Absalom we know he all the problems with his father and then stealing the throne and dying in battle and it's one point scripture says he has three sons but second Samuel 18 18 said that he built a monument to himself while he was alive he built a monument to himself why because he said I have no sons so they must have died so he built a monument in his own name to himself and that's all that's left a dead monument because he had no sons to carry on his legacy remember in the Bible you're Simon son of Jonah right you're you're you're carrying on the the legacy of those who went before you and and you know there's a striking verse in the in the book of Ezra when Ezra is introduced it's it's it's quite wild the description here but but look at what it says about him in in the book of Ezra let me just get the right passage up here I typed it in wrong sorry about that in the book of Ezra so he arrives Ezra the scribe arrives and he is now going to help there with the exiles who have returned and when it's when it's giving his description it gives that I I mean I could read it all but it's son of son of son of son of son of son of son of son of son of going all you know you know how far back it goes all the way back to Levi yeah I mean it here let me let me read it for you Ezra 7 Ezra son of Sariah son of Azariah son of Hekiah son of Shalom son of Zadok son of Achitub son of Amarius son of Azariah son of Mariot son of Zerachiah son of Uzi son of Bukhi son of Abishua son of Phinehas son of Eleazar son of Aaron it goes all the way back to Aaron the chief priest this this Ezra so this is lineage that's his heritage what does Hezekiah say when when when Isaiah confronts him Hezekiah shows all the palace goods everything he has when the when the king of Babylon sends envoys after his recovery from illness and and what does Hezekiah show well they're obviously thinking we could be allies we could be allies because uh you know the the we have a common enemy with a serious so he shows the Babylonians everything he has Isaiah come says what happened who were these people he tells me so what you show him everything he says Hezekiah everything this temple everything the palace is it's gonna go it's gonna be carried into into exile in Babylon the great people are just visiting you their country is gonna be carried in Texas and some of your own kids your descendants are gonna be carried into exile and they're gonna be eunuch some of your grandsons great grandsons are gonna be eunuchs in Babylon you know what Hezekiah says praise the Lord the word of the Lord is good because he thought well there'd be peace and safety in my days what Hezekiah the godly king Hezekiah are you kidding me that was his attitude well praise the Lord there's gonna be peace and safety in my day oh what a horrific selfish sinful inexcusable attitude no no no he should have said let the judgment fall on me and not on future generations I've preached on these themes to leaders and then pastors have come up to me old men of God who've served with distinction warriors faithful with sadness in their eyes and that's they said we don't have any sons I don't have any sons basically the works on me when I die that I don't have any sons what it doesn't mean physical says you mean spiritual sons and I'm thinking what what happened to although the sons in the faith in your congregation you must 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Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling eight six six three four truth here again is dr. Michael Brown from the past which certainly was there but is it active still today not even perhaps in laws that were passed years ago that may still be on the books that most people don't recognize but but actively is there systemic racism in our courts is there systemic racism in our schools is there systemic racism in our places of business that's the question we want to ask and and I want to take you into some interaction with now Republican candidate senator Tim Scott who's on the view whoopee Goldberg others have said some things about Tim Scott very liberal hosts for the most part it sometimes entirely on the view and blasted Tim Scott and well he took exception to what was said and came on the view and there is some lively candid discussion so I want to play this for you but give me your take do you agree with him or not eight six six three four truth do you agree with him or the host he was interacting with study Hostin who herself is African American eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four tell me where you weigh in on this I would love to get your perspective and I'm gonna give you mine which may surprise some of you so here we go it's an extended clip but we're gonna play it straight through senator I am actually happy that you're here we we have some things in common you grew up you grew up in a single-family household single-mother household I grew up with both of my parents but raised in the Bronx projects and it's a lot of poverty and and violence and you are the first black senator elected in the South since the reconstruction that would be about I think about 114 years yet you say that your life disproves left leftist lies and my question to you is I'm the exception right you're the exception maybe even Miss Whoopi Goldberg is the exception oh she's but but but we are not the rule and so when it comes to racial inequality it persists in in five core aspects of life in the US economics education health care criminal justice and housing at nearly every turn these achievements were fought threatened and erased most often by white violence you have indicated that you don't believe in systemic racism what is your definition of systemic racism let me ask answer the question that you've answered or does it even exist in your mind let me answer the question this way one of the things I think about and one of the reasons why I'm on the show is because of the comments that were made frankly on this show that the only way for a young african-american kid to be successful in this country is to be the exception and not the rule that is a dangerous offensive disgusting message to send to our young people today that the only way to succeed is by being the exception I will tell you that if my life is the exception I can't imagine I can't is but it's not actually here's here's 114 years yes so the fact that a matter is we've had an african-american president african-american vice president we've had two african-americans to be secretaries of the state in my home city the police chief is an african-american who's now running for mayor the head of the highway patrol for South clients the african-americans in 19 in 1975 there was about 15 percent employment in the african-american community for the first time in the history of the country it's under 5% 40% homelessness and 50% of the folks in our community I've watched you on the show that you like people to be deferential and respectful so I'm going to do the same thing so here's what I'm going to suggest I'm going to suggest the fact of the matter is that progress in America is palpable it could be measured in generations I look back at the fact that my grandfather born in 1921 in Sally South Carolina when he was on a on a sidewalk a white person was coming he had to step off and not make eye contact that man believed then with some doubt now and the goodness of America because he believed that having faith in God faith in himself and faith in what the future could hold for his kids would unleash opportunities in ways that you you cannot imagine every kid today can look just change the stations and see how much progress has been made in this country ABC NBC CBS ESPN CNN Fox News all have african-american and Hispanic hosts so what I'm suggesting is that the yesterday's exception is today's rule and for us to suggest it has met its promise no of course the the concept of America is that we are going to become a more perfect union but in fact the challenges that we face 50 years ago and 60 years ago should not be the same challenges that we face today and here's the way that you you measured that well my mother was born about 10% of african-americans got a high school degree diploma today is over 90% when you look at the income when you look at the income success that we've had HBCU stat well listen HBCU staff is a good one because one of the reasons why I took the funding for HBCUs to the highest level in the history of the country and then I helped make it permanent is because I believe that education is the closest thing to magic in America so I'm about making sure that our kids have as many opportunities to succeed as possible all right so it goes on a little bit beyond that you know others jumped in so that's why we cut it there so I appreciate them letting Tim Scott speak freely and the interaction there and I love getting both sides I've often said that when it was Hannity and Combs on Fox and you hear them both going back and forth I really like that format because it's easy to preach to the choir you agree with me I say things you all agree with and yeah go ahead and we live in our little echo chambers we often do that on social media I love when things get challenged I've often said that when I'm asked to address a controversial subject on a college campus University campus I request a debate with someone that holds to the opposite view it's rare that we get that to happen but I request it because I want everyone to hear the best presentation from both sides that's why if someone wants to debate me I want to make sure they're qualified so it's fair it's not fair to debate me in areas where I'm not qualified right you could you could debate me on some in-depth subject of biology or astronomy and crush me because it's not my field but that's that's not fair to other Bible believers who are strong in biology or strong in chemistry or strong in astronomy or whatever the case may be so I want people to hear the best presentation from the other side so things will be fair as much as possible and then you can sort it out right so I know that Sunny Hostin didn't speak at length giving time to Tim Scott but she raised some points saying hey still the exception still the exception he's saying progress being made progress being made okay so here's what struck me and you can weigh in what do you think the funding for HBCUs here's what struck me in listening to his words it's how recently things were so bad for many African Americans now part of this part of what Tim Scott's talking about is where you grow up right did you grow up in the inner city did you grow up in the suburbs did you grow up with two parents did you grow up with one parent those things are massive massive factors as to whether you will be the rule or the exception to the rule follow in other words you could go into inner city Baltimore and find an extremely low percentage in terms of the presence of males say in their 30s or 40s because so many have been incarcerated and so many have died of violence or other things like that this is not an attack this this is not an attack this is of anything an appeal for us to wake up and be aware of some of the pain that our fellow Americans live with so for sure your question your answer is largely going to depend on your own background your own situation what you grew up with what was normal for you and and I'll explain more my point about what struck me was how recent some of these things were but I give an example in 1993 Nancy and I went to India for the first time and we had a total of five people from our congregation go on the trip and the congregation was really praying for us we were away we took tons of video because a whole new world for us like whoa this is unbelievable and the needs were staggering and we came back and and we did a presentation our congregation and we played some of the clips well there was an Indian couple in the congregation and they were outraged they said that is not India that is not our country that was completely selective that was terribly misleading well you better believe it was India and you better believe there is nothing selective or misleading about it it was footage we took over a three-week trip with just with Indians the whole time and and what represents an absolute cross-section of part of the the population however this couple grew up in it in a prosperous family living in an area where they were not they never came in contact with that type of poverty and suffering and need even the world nature things they just live somewhere else so that was real but it was only part of the picture so their reality was real but it was only part of the larger picture so a lot of how you answer the question about systemic racism or opportunity or things like that in in America will tie in with your own life experience right it's gonna be like that with anything that we answer what is our life experience but what struck me was not so much the progress that we've made but how recent the the terrible past was he summers grandfather as a boy in the south if a white man walked in the street he could not look at him have to get out of the way that's just his grandfather many of you listening you have grandparents living this is his grandfather that that's not nine hundred years ago or five thousand years ago or even a hundred years ago that's recent yet thank God for the massive progress that's been made but that's recent when he says when his mother is growing up ten percent of african-americans got high school education or graduated from high school that's devastating that that that is a devastating reality so yeah I've been aware of these things but as someone who grew up born in New York City raised on Long Island white Jewish but I encountered very little anti-semitism growing up and my dad family was open-minded as could be my second organ teacher and I was when I was a boy not even ten years old was a black man his wife was white and my father was outraged that that they had lost many friends when they got married they lost friends loved ones turned away from them because it was an interracial marriage and I remember my father in this day and age he said how can that be in this day and age so I I grew up with that and never had talks with black friends and in college or high school they never brought up to me racial profiling or things like that so it was just not stuff that I was 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Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling eight six six three four truth here again is dr. Michael Brown that is the call eight six six three four truth you get to weigh in first let me let me give part two so the first thing that struck me when Senator Scott spoke was not the progress that we've made thank God for the progress and we continue to make progress that's not the first thing that struck me the first thing that struck me was wow that this these things are very very recent in our history some parts of America much more extreme than others in that regard right some parts of America where there's been much more equal opportunity for years educational opportunity job opportunity and others where that's not been the case or their real estate laws that still on the books that make it more difficult for a black person and a white person and all those things you know how would you know about it unless you encountered it over in that field right so it's been educational for me over the many years of interacting with my african-american friends callers to be reminded of some of this hey look we took our tour group in Israel to the Holocaust Museum right so that goes back to the horrors that took place in the 30s and 40 40s in in Nazi Germany and Europe so that horrific and to this moment that's a theme never again and memories annual memorials to the Holocaust in the memory of the those that died and suffered etc it's it's one of the most horrible chapters in human history you say well slave trade those you know that was horrible but that was a hundred years or 150 years earlier well hang on let's not compare these are both horrific chapters in human history both horrific chapters in human history and segregation civil rights act that's not so 1964 I was nine years old it's when the Beatles came to America but but here's the other thing this is the part who I wanted to get to this on a government website it cited the 2019 survey of consumer finances right 2019 it said this white families have the highest level of both median and mean family wealth one hundred eighty eight thousand two hundred so that would be median income I guess and then family wealth nine hundred eighty three thousand four hundred respectively all right so the highest meat level of both median and mean fat also family wealth one hundred eighty eight thousand two hundred dollars and nine hundred eighty three thousand four hundred respectively so let's say assets that you have home things like that business investments whatever so white family this was how it averaged out black and Hispanic families have considerably less wealth than white families black families median and mean wealth was less than 15 percent that of white families at twenty four thousand one hundred and one hundred forty two thousand five hundred respectively Hispanic family mean families mean median and mean wealth is thirty six thousand one hundred and one hundred sixty five thousand respectively so compared to one hundred eighty eight thousand two hundred for a white family median family wealth it's twenty four thousand one hundred for a black family and thirty six thousand one hundred for Hispanic for white family family wealth mean family wealth nine hundred eighty three thousand four hundred black family one hundred forty two thousand five hundred Hispanic family one hundred sixty five thousand five hundred on average all right so what what that is telling us is that the legacy of systemic racism in the past it takes a while to undo that all right now please hear this I do not suffer from white guilt it has never occurred to me a second in my life a second in my life to feel guilty for being white any more than I feel guilty for having a nose okay it never has never occurred to me and I find zero substance to that whatsoever and when I look back to my family history and immigrants coming over and in their history and and how the hardships they had to overcome and having no connection to the history of slave trade or segregation etc either on my mother or father's side all all the more am I completely untouched by the idea of white guilt right so that's not what's making me speak here I've no desire to see more oh I want to see more oh yeah right right with the stance that we take day and night with with the conservative biblically based stance we take day and night I'm trying to prove I'm woke I want everybody to think I'm progressive no nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense and although I have some colleagues who made strong arguments based on biblical justice for reparations I'm not arguing for reparations all I'm saying is for for many who didn't grow up with this whatever your skin color ethnicity or ethnicity or who may not be as sensitive to the realities is that something that was so much a part of our culture for so long does not get undone overnight doesn't get undone in 10 or 20 or even 30 years now you build into it some some of the ongoing problems look there are there are critics of the Democratic Party and of the welfare system that said look the Democrats they were the party of the slaveholders remember the Republicans were the the abolition party so that the Democrats were the party of the slaveholders and the slave owners and all of that that you owned their bodies in the past now you want to own their votes now and set up systems that are that would create bondage create dependency a welfare system that rewards of a woman financially for having a child without the husband or father there say you know something it's in a crass way to say it I'm just saying this is what critics would say and and that there is something set up now so that the average african-american family is far less intact today than it was before the civil rights movement and that that's that's the key to everything and this is just another aspect of racism in America someone make make that arguments as well my point is simply to say this that if you really have a heart for people a heart for God a heart for justice that while you applaud with Tim Scott said about the progress and say yes that in more and more cases it's not the exception it's the rule be it CEOs be it professors be it people on social media influencers be it faces on TV let alone athletes etc that yes successful african-americans are hardly the the exception it's very normal and and unexceptional and something that we see and live with all the time at the same time let's recognize that the horrible legacy of so many years not just slavery post slavery segregation and other things built into our systems beyond what we even realize and it still may filter through the courts and still may filter through areas of business etc that that it takes a while to overcome those things and that we have to listen with open ears recognize rather than say well I'm on the left I'm here on the right I'm Democrat I'm Republican no as followers of Jesus to listen to with open ears to say we did we want justice we want righteousness we want God's purposes we want God's best and we work together for that shouldn't we all be able to do it across the board politically across the board ethnically across the board skin color shouldn't we say hey we want as much as possible a level playing field for all Americans we're not trying to guarantee quality of outcome but we want to try to as much as possible help people get a level playing field have it have a good shot at making it in this country should that be our goal together all right oh no I'm gonna stop here and I'm gonna take a call but we're gonna go completely off topic in the last few minutes of the broadcast so Josh and Miriam Virginia go ahead you've got a question unrelated to what we've been talking about go for it please yeah well don't you Brown I just want to thank you for your ministry and I really it's really helped me over the last little bit here recently thank you and you know I want to talk to you about ministry I had felt led to go into a type of ministry but I don't know exactly if that calling would be a full-time pastorship but the part of me thinks it's to organize fellowship with believers because I think we have a need for that church and I'm just recently married I'm praying and talking and to my wife about this and making sure that she knows that she's the first her and Jesus or a first priority mm-hmm but um I just I guess I'd like some advice on that yes sir apart apart I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt as I have to do sometimes towards the end of the broadcast because I'm looking at that clock right ahead of me and I want to give you an answer with some substance in the couple of minutes that I have number one walk in the light that you have in obedience to the burden that you have without worrying about how it's gonna work out just like when you first met your wife it's unlikely and that happens sometimes but it's unlikely the first time you met her that you said this is the woman I'm gonna marry but you got to know her and then you spent more time together and then the more time you spent together at a certain point you said this is the woman that I want to marry so same thing here you give yourself to the burden you have okay maybe I just invite people over to the home more maybe we can do something you're part of a local church and and you just do something that any member could do and you cultivate that or you talk to your your pastor and say hey I'm I'm burdened dude would you mind if I just try to help more to to get more families together or get believers together to just just grow as disciples more won't be able to do that or if you just feel to go to an unreached area and and just start meeting with people and gathering them do what's in your heart to do walk in the light that you have it's almost like someone taking up a certain sport or an instrument you thought wow I can do this I can do this really well I I could do this full-time as those things begin to develop everything else falls into place on its own naturally walk in the direction of the light you have it'll get brighter and brighter put your hand to the plow and the next step will fall into place naturally may the Lord bless you and be gracious to you and friends let us move forward Jesus is at work together we are making a difference another program powered by the truth Network