Matt Slick Live

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All right, everyone, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and your list of Matt Slick Live as usual. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 8772072276. And uh I think the last four digits spell C A R M. On the phone dial, so it'd be A77207 CARM.

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Alright, so there's that and um Got a couple things I'm doing here. We got some callers coming in, so that's good stuff. All right.

Okay, been working on some stuff. I got some stuff I'll be talking about later. I've been working on things. Last night I had good discussions online, discussing stuff with people. Uh as always, I'll get a field test on my theology.

and uh work as much as I can. To perfect arguments, to perfect things, doctrines to teach, and help people understand the truth. That's what I'm trying to do. That is what I'm trying to do.

So hopefully. I hope it'll be something you appreciate on the radio and well on the On vids and things like that, videos. All right, like I said, give me a call 877-207-2276. And I want to hear from you. Give me a call.

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is And from North Carolina, welcome. You're on the air. Mr. Mac, how are you today? I'm doing okay.

Hanging in there. Hanging in there, man. What do you got, buddy? Yes, sir, you know who you're talking to, right? I'm sorry, what?

Do you realize who you're conversing with tonight or dialoguing with tonight? Yeah, you're a Hebrew Israelite guy. Yeah, what do y'all have against the Hebrew Israelites? Oh, it's easy. You teach a false God, a false Christ, and a false gospel, and it's a racist organization.

Okay, I could say the same thing about Christians.

So you're saying that all Hebrew Israelites are racist and all Hebrew Israelites are are teaching a false heresy and a doctrine? No, I'm just saying the same thing about Christians. I don't say they're all racist, but they are teaching. You deny the Trinity, you deny that Jesus Christ is God in flesh. And uh Um and that makes you a n a cult, non-Christian cult.

Wait a minute, whoever denies the Trinity? First of all, the Bible doesn't speak of Trinity. It's not a trendy. How do you know it doesn't? It never, you won't see it.

Show me what book and verse says anything about Trinity.

Well, that's a wrong question. That means you don't understand what the Trinity is. The Trinity is not derived at by a single verse. Trinity means three thousand. Hold on, hold on.

You asked me a question.

Well, you asked me a question. I'm trying to get it. I followed that. Yeah, okay. You don't derive the Trinity by a single verse.

So, to ask, oh, show me the one verse that says this, it's the wrong question. It means you don't understand what it is you're talking about, the Trinity. Do you know what the Trinity is?

So, do you realize who you're talking to? When you talk to me, you're talking to the father. I'm a clad oneness with my father, sir. You're laughing and joking, but when you come against the children of the Hebrew Israelites, you're coming against your father and your mother. No.

When you're disgusting, I'm coming against a devil speaking through you. That's what I'm coming against. Sir, now I haven't called you no devil. That's total disrespect. I haven't called you no devil.

I haven't called you out. I didn't say you're the devil. I said the devil's speaking through you. That's different. That's what you're saying.

Basically, I'm the devil.

So buying that up in the name of the world. This is a simple issue of logic, and you're failing. I didn't call you the devil. The devil is speaking through you. That means there's a distinction between you and the false one.

Therefore, you are speaking false doctrine. You're speaking false doctrine.

Okay.

So I'm speaking false doctrine, but you're not speaking false doctrine. No, I'm not. I'm teaching what the Bible says. What Bible are you reading from? I can go uh to the NESB 95 if you want it, go to the LSB, go to all kinds of Bibles.

I know because those are false Bibles. And how do you know?

Well, I. Because I researched, I'm a world traveler. I've been to Israel, I've been to Rome, I'm an author as well.

So what I'm trying to get you to understand, you're not talking to a novice here. You're a liar to people for 23. You're a novice when it comes to critical thinking and biblical knowledge. I'm just here to tell you the truth. I'm not here to debate you.

Galatians 3.29 said, If ye be Hamashiak, Then are ye Abraham C.

So why do you mix words? Why do you mix one language words with another language words? Why do you do that? Is that biblical to do? And smiling on what you're talking about, when you're talking about mixing words, what are you referring to?

Yeah, you'd be talking in English, and all of a sudden you go to a so-called Hebrew pronunciation, and then you go back into English. Why are you jumping back and forth between languages? You know what I could do is I could talk to you and you know don't esabler en español talbien. And then we can go back and forth, you know. No, I don't know.

No, I'm trying to make a point that you don't understand because your failure to understand basic logic is pretty bad.

Okay, so 'Kay. Why don't we get on one accord here? Pass the truth and stop lying. You're a false teacher. Y'all tell so many lies, you believe in your own lies.

No, you're a false teacher. The truth is a lie, and the lie is a truth in this era and time. No, that preach to truth and get on board. You're a false teacher. You're telling lies, sir.

Jesus Christ was number one not for you. Let me show you something in the middle. Let's see if you believe the Bible. Is Jesus Christ God in flesh? Yes, is yes or no?

He's your God. He's not my God.

Okay.

Is Jesus Christ in the Bible, in the New Testament, is he God in flesh? The one Jesus, it's in the same way. I just explained to you, He is your God, which is no other than Isus, which is Satan. He's your God. Okay.

So, do you believe what it says in Psalm 116:4? It says there. It was Psalm once.

Okay, in Psalm 116.4. It says that it called upon the name of Yahweh.

Okay, now you're using Yahweh. But now, when you go to the New Testament, you use Jesus. Hold on, hold on a second. How confusing is that? Hold on a sec.

Cow, yeah, I'm trying to ask you a question, and this is what you guys do. You know, the cult mind, you don't listen, you just react and dump stuff out. I'm asking you to do some thinking. I apologize. You can't think.

You get excited because y'all lie so much. No, no, I get excited because you can't think. You're weight of a white paper bag, dude. I'm trying to help you. I ask you about a verse: Do you believe?

What it says in Psalm 116:4, it says, I called upon the name of Yahweh. That's all it says. It says in the Hebrew, it's Yahweh. And it says, O Yahweh, I beseech you, save my life. Do you believe?

that this is a prayer, the phrase. I called upon the name of Yahweh. Is the whole phrase, call upon the name of Yahweh, is that a prayer to Yahweh? Of course it is, sir. This time David, he was.

Good.

So the answer is yes. All right.

So the answer is yes. Call upon the name of Yahweh. Is Yahweh God? Is Yahweh God? Yahweh is Elohim, sir.

God is Baal. Lord is Baal. Those are pagan terms in the world. It says in Isaiah 42:8, I am Yahweh. That is my name.

I will give my name to no other. This is the Lord God speaking. In 1 Kings 8:60, it says, Yahweh is Elohim. First Kings eight sixty All right. It says Yahweh is Elohim.

So is Yahweh Elohim. That's right. That's correct. Then we all want to call.

So Yahweh is Elohim, and the call upon the name of Yahweh is a prayer to Yahweh, and only to Yahweh. Right? It's good. Damage go ahead. Do you know what the Septuagint is?

That we don't get into semantics, sir. You get into the matter of the Roman Catholic Church. I just asked. I just asked, do you know what the Septuagint is? That's all I asked.

You're getting into some matters. We don't get into some matters, but the Roman Catholic people. The Septuagint. That's all. You want to use a big word.

The Septuagint. The Septuagint. The Septuagint. The Septuagint is the Greek. It's the Greek translation of the Old Testament done around 250 years B.C., done by the Jews.

So the Jews translated the Old Testament into Greek around 200-250 BC. It's called a Septuagint. It's just real common knowledge. Guess how they translated it? Guess how they translated the phrase, call upon the name of Yahweh?

They translated it. The Jews did this. They translated it into call upon the name of the Lord. How curious and great. Oh, I wonder why they did that.

How foolish. You know something? You are so ignorant. And you are so foolishly blinded by the devil, you can't even think straight, you don't even know how to speak properly. You understand what the septagent is.

And then, what you call the Jews fools, when they're the ones, when they're the ones who. Who translated this? Into Greek, both 250 years BC. They sure did. And so that was the height.

They called, they said the phrase is called upon the name of the Lord. That's what the Jews did. Are you telling me the Jews were wrong for doing that and trying to let it out different language? Of course they were wrong, sir. They were wrong 'cause they were We're just going to move on.

This is just a level in stupidity that I'm not going to get into very much further because. Let me tell you, the BHI, this is pretty typical of the BHI. It's one of the most excellent demonstrations of what you can have when you're absolutely brainwashed. Blue brain wall. Big honking idiots is what we can call them.

They cannot think critically, they don't understand the basics of logic, they don't understand how to put thoughts together properly, they're not able to. Really, to see stuff of what the scriptures teach. It's very difficult to work with them. This is typical of what the VHI do. I've had all kinds of conversations with them over the years, and after a while, it just gets to the point where it's just not being conducive to a good conversation.

Now, I'm just you know cut them off, we'll move along because It's a, this is, like I said, an excellent example. of a brainwashing cult and what it does to your brain. Good example of it. Let's get to.

Next longest by one second is Rudolph from North Carolina. Rudolph, welcome. You're on the air. What's up, brother? How you doing?

I love you, man. Yeah. I haven't taught you in a while, but I'm sorry, but you wave it. Everything gonna go right. I love you.

And I'm gonna ask you a question. About Um Ezekiel chapter twenty eight. Is that a description of Out. I believe that the pressure. Yes, I believe it is a description.

I believe it's a description of Satan. That's what I believe, yes.

Okay.

Okay, badias of the spirit of Satan. Go.

So let me answer this. Why did he call him the king of Tyre? Oh well, and we get back from the break. We'll go through that and I'll answer the question, okay? It's okay, hold on, buddy, pig.

We got a break.

So hey folks, we write back Kathleen's messages and please stay tuned, we'll right back. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Alright, thanks, everybody. Welcome back to the show.

Laura, can you move your cursor to the right? You'll know what I'm talking about. Let's get back on the air with Rudolph. There we go. Rudolph.

Welcome. You're on here. I was wondering why he call him. Satan, the king of Tyre. Because prophecy often works where one flow is going, and then something in it is about something else.

and it's extracted in order to demonstrate who it's about. But one of the things that's interesting is that the king of Tyre was an evil person. And it says, You had this seal of perfection and wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God.

So, it's not obviously King Tyre, King of Tyre was not there.

So, what's happening here is Ezekiel is talking about. The true power behind the king of Tyre, who was Satan, and is addressing that and describing him at that point.

Okay.

Yep, and he also he did w he said that he was a guardian. Chill. Another cherub, yes. Verse 14. Yep.

Okay, well, thanks very much. You take care of yourself. I love you, brother. Thank you, and take care.

Okay, you too. Thank you. Appreciate it. My pa. All right.

All right.

Now let's get to Nelson from California. Nelson, welcome. You're on the air. Amen. God bless my brother.

Appreciate it. So um I think this will go along with the first colour that came in. It was Sad to see the, and I say this, the world amazingly blind from the truth. It is well. Um So my question is, I have a good friend of mine that I grew up with, and just to give you a background illustration in a sense.

We both grew up Catholic, the Lord uh um Shet me free from that deception. And so he is now in the Catholic Church, and so. He saw a miracle that I believe him. And he saw what he saw.

So he works in the hospital. He was uh walking around praying, he told me, and uh he was going to his car. when someone came to him, I guess he shot himself. and um in the stomach somewhere And um he came up to him and he fell in front of him. And he started guiding him to say the Lord's Prayer.

But at the same time, he they were praying Hail Mary after the Lord's Prayer. And he said after he goes back in him to help him continue saying the words. And then he said that immediately after he said it a couple of times, the Um Prayers you can say. Um he got up. And he was basically like back to normal, but in a sense still kinda enough where the by that time the people were already on the wheelchair coming towards him and he got on the wheelchair.

So I guess my question with that My question is, did God honor that Um prayer to The father. But because of it, did he re uh did not allow the hail marriage? We don't know because that would require a prophet or an apostle who has insight or given wisdom by God personally. to be able to answer that question.

So we can't answer that question. But I can do this. I can go to Matthew 7, 22 and 23. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, do we not prophesy in your name? In your name, cast out miracles, in your name, perform many miracles.

He says, I'll say to them, get away from me, you workers of evil. I never knew you. Just because a miracle can be performed doesn't mean it's from God. That's the point. Yeah, gotcha, yeah, and so demonically speaking.

What Satan wants. is for the Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox to pray to Mary. They want he wants them to pray to Mary, So that she then is the mediator. She's the one you turn to instead of Christ. She's the one who hears millions of prayers that are spoken in thought.

She has access to all of this. She can comprehend all of this. She's a functioning goddess. She functions as a goddess. And that's what Satan wants.

He wants people to take their eyes off of the sufficiency, completeness of Christ, praying to Christ, as the Bible says. and put it on something else. This is what Satan wants, and the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church are in bed with Satan in this regard.

So, this person has to understand that the scriptures are what determines a truth, not a prayer to Mary or anything like that. Jesus says on that day, on the day of judgment, many are going to say, Hey, I saw we did miracles. Does that mean they're from God? Obviously not. And so, this is what the foolishness is of this guy's position and the ignorance because he's not trusting in God's word, he's trusting in the Catholic experience.

And your faith is only as good as who you put it in, therefore, he's in great trouble. Yeah, he's in trouble. Yeah, and he was telling me how anywhere he goes, and pretty sure you're aware of this. You can draw on the mass and we have the C read. Uh it will have a huge.

Yeah, you're breaking up. You're having a mass and what? I said that um You're probably aware of this where um Anywhere he can go? in the world, he said. Um he can pick up a mass teaching and it's the same mass teaching that he is According to the book that he has with his church.

And so, and the first thing that came to mind was the Jehovah's Witnesses. Like, wow. Yeah. Here's a response I say to people when they say that to me I say, Yeah, so.

Okay.

Yeah. Does that mean it's true? Oh, we have all the same stuff, so I mean, Satan's going to use the same deception. That works. And I say it to people, I say it to the Catholics, I say, you're demonically um I'm deceived.

Man, they're not used to a Christian saying and calling him out on it. I say, Yeah, you're deceived. Because you're violating the Word of God. You're praying to Mary. The Bible never says a prayer to Mary.

Never says that. And think about this. In order for Mary to hear millions of prayers spoken in thought. There's a problem. Let's say that It's the only the issue of thought prayers.

Now Roughly Well, millions of people are praying to Mary any particular time because there's almost 2 billion Catholics and East Orthodox.

So And it prayed to Mary. And if they're just praying silently in order for Mary to hear the prayer, she has to have access to their conscious consciousness. She has to have access to their minds. That means she has to have a presence in their minds in order to understand. And if she has a presence in their minds, then she's exercising what is called.

Uh pop uh polypresence or multipresence. God is the one who's omnipresent. He's everywhere. And if there are eight billion mines in the world, let's just say exactly eight billion. than he is in eight billion minds.

In this respect we would say multipresence is a subset of omnipresence. And so when they say Mary can hear millions of prayers. better s better thought In order for her to hear them, this is why there's other arguments they have, but this is just one of them. In order to hear them, she has to have awareness and presence in their consciousness.

So now what they're doing is redefining Mary. And saying that she no longer has an essence that is in one place at a time, but now it's in multiple places at a time. That's godlike quality. They turn her into a functioning goddess. Hey brother, hold on.

We got a break, and we'll be back from chat. You can ask me a question about it. Won't you read that Gaffrey's messages, please? Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Alright well and welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Nelson, you still there? Mm-hmm. Yes, I'm here, bro.

So I'll give you some stuff really quick before the break.

So what do you think? Yeah, kind of. That's what I was kind of thinking because I do know that it was in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2. How let's talk about in the future how the Antichrist has. um the power to make miracles, but deception miracles.

And it's because of the fact that they people didn't love the truth, so they gave them up over to a rubber bit mind. Yep.

And just kinda thinking we're not pondering like, wow. Um With the fact of how much power that the enemy has, but at the same time, God allows him to have that power. Not to glorify the enemy at all, but The fact is that this is this is a This is a true spiritual battle that we're facing here. Yeah, absolutely. And the stupidity of their idolatry is is blinding them.

In fact, what's appropriate here is in Romans 1.18 and following, the wrath of God is being revealed against all ungodliness from heaven who suppresseth truth and unrighteousness. They're suppressing the truth, the Catholics and Eastern doctrines are suppressing the truth of God's omniscience and his quality of being in places all at once and him alone having these attributes. And so, what they've done is they've exchanged the glory of the incredible God for an image of the form of incredible man.

So, now what they're doing is giving to the image of Mary. the uh the abilities of God. And you know, I watched um Denzel Washington is one of my favorite actors. And uh a couple of nights ago I watched uh Equalizer 3. I like it, I think it's great.

And at one point in this Italian village they were in, they had a procession of people holding up an an idol of Mary proceed proceeding. And I just said out loud, I'm the only one in the house and I said, idolatry. They're idolaters. And they didn't even realize it. And it's just so casual.

This is what you just do. Satanist is having a great time. Because he's got the EO and the RC. bowing before images of Mary. attributing to her characteristics that belong to God.

And it's it's idolatry. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I tell the Catholics who claim to be the true church, and they sort of the true church, the true ecclesiastical structure, they're the true church, blah, blah, blah. And I say, you're the church, true church.

And they say, yeah. And I say, okay, 2 Thessalonians 2 talks about the apostasy that comes. Right? They say, Yeah. That means your true church has to go apostate, doesn't it?

Right? Yeah. and they're stuck at that point.

Well, I actually had a Catholic one say, that's a good point. At least he was honest. And I said, this means your church has to go apostate. How do you know it isn't already? in preparation for the Antichrist.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, now that I go in for info. I got one more question, but I think it's too deep to ask in the sense of watching call back tomorrow. But if you just want to just real quick, it's about tulip.

Okay, go ahead. Um If you can um break that down in the nutshell. Yeah, sure. Tulip is T-U-L-I-P total depravity, which means that we're touched by sin in all areas of what we are: heart, soul, mind, body. You is unconditional election.

God chooses people for salvation, not based on any goodness in you. L is limited atonement. The blood of Christ is sufficient for all, but Jesus only legally cancelled the sin debt. on the cross for the elect. I is irresistible grace.

And it means that at regeneration You can't resist God's graciousness of making you born again. It's not about during your life, and He's gracious, and you resist that. It's not it, it's about regeneration. And P, Perseverance of the Saints, says that. God will work in you and through you to have you persevere to the end so you will not, so to speak, be able to lose your salvation.

Okay?

Okay.

Yeah, that's that's um that's a good one. Yes, thank you so much. That's quick insight. And also, along with this, goes election and predestination, which most Christians don't like it. But I show them repeatedly.

I show them The verses that teach exactly what I'm saying. But I'll do some of the word of God. That's right. But I'll do a lot of times. is I will um In conversation, I'll quote them.

I'll say, Well, you know, like I did it two nights ago. I did this exact thing. I said, Well, look, I believe that God chooses people for salvation. Do you believe that? And he goes, No, he would never do that.

The guy said, No, he doesn't. I said, Well, I just quoted 2 Thessalonians 2:13. He chose us from the beginning for salvation. It says, why is it you don't agree with God's word? And they're trapped.

And what they do then is just deflect or call me names. There you go. That's right. Bam. I get called names, you know, and I've been called I'm Satan lately, and from the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, I'm Satan, and my doctrines are demonic.

And uh And stuff like that, you know. Yeah. Okay.

All right, man.

Well, thank you very much. I'll never keep you in prayer, my brother. Thank you again for the insight that God has given you.

Okay, God's grace. All right, praise God, brother. Amen. Praise God. All right now Now let's get to Eugene from North Carolina.

Eugene, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, thank you, McMahon. God bless you. How you doing?

I'm doing all right by God's grace. That's for sure. That's right, man. That's right. Hey, so that last part, that guy, um.

You and that guy was just talking about tulip, which is what I you know, I I we we talked about it once before as far as you know, predestination. you know, against, you know, uh Free will. Yeah. Um We kind of landed on, you know, I think it was Second Peter where He says that God desires that all men, you know, might be saved. But I think we kind of discussed in in that context I guess I think he said in the in the Hebrew That it in that context didn't mean all.

And so I thought about that, and my question. is that The writers whether it was in Hebrew or the Septuagint, they would have understood What all Meant, even in that context, in that language.

So why wouldn't they say You know, well, not all, but those who prede use or use words that would say, you know, those that were predestined. And then if you back up in the verse a little further, it said any.

So does any mean any? In that same context, and you look up at You look at that against, um uh, what is it? Uh, First Timothy? And that all the and and just c many verses in the Bible that You know Well, two. Shows that God has love for everyone, but for those who choose to serve Him and and be obedient and keep his commandments.

So And, like I said before, what I think, and I'm not saying I'm right, it's just what I think is that. both can be true, and God is able to do whatever He decides to do.

Okay.

Yeah, they can be true in different senses. A lot of people mistakenly think that free will, predestination, all this stuff are contradictory, but they're not. Because God teaches us. I don't think it's contradictory. I don't land on that part.

Good.

God could teach us both. That's one issue.

Now, it's legitimate to ask: who are the all? And one of the things I will do to people to get them to see something Is I will say to them, Is it the case that you have died with Christ? Romans 6:8? Yes. Have you been crucified with Christ?

Romans 6:6. Yes. Colossians 3:3. And they'll say, Yeah. And they say, Okay, do you agree with me that whenever it says that anybody's died with Christ, died to sin, died to the world, that it's only the believers?

And they say, Well, yeah.

Okay, good. But I think it was Second Corinthians 5.14. And I read it to him. I say, The love of Christ controls us. Having concluded this: that one died for all, therefore all died.

Who's the all who died? And this stumps people. Because, biblically speaking, the only ones who have died in Christ are the believers. And or we can extend it to our neck. Absolutely.

And so I show them right there from the context. He died for all. Therefore, all died. All are the ones who are going to believe and trust and have died in him with him. It can't be everybody.

It cannot be. And this really blows people away with that. Show it to them. Oh, yeah. I mean, I've I kinda I've followed that, you know, to as best as I can follow it.

And that makes sense, you know, because you only those who have died in Christ who uh bottom line who accepted Jesus as God and as His Son. That's the only name that gives salvation. Trying to do that. But then the other you know, then all the other scriptures in the Bible that tell us to, you know, uh choose good and not evil. And To um yeah.

uh to God expanding his love. Towards all is creation, but only to uh those who have received salvation so There's gotta be Ah. I ain't gonna say gotta be, but To to me that means what God says is what he says and that's what he meant.

So Somehow He loved everyone and desires all to be saved. And also that you know, for those he foreknew, he predestined. And how that lines up or makes sense, I can't wrap my mind around it, but. I believe it is. Yeah, and that's what that works.

It's doable. We get into the particulars, but that's good stuff, brother. All right, there's the music, man. Man, God bless you. God bless you, man.

All right, man.

God bless you. Okay.

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Here's Matt Slick. Alright everybody, welcome back to the Here we go. Welcome back to the show. It's Getty Ken from North Carolina. Welcome.

You're on the air. Are you there? Hello? Yeah. You there?

Hey, man, ho hey, man, how you doing? Doing all right.

So what do you got? Question. One question I want to ask you. The Jews that are in Jerusalem, are they are the r are they the original Jews or false Jews? It's a false dichotomy to say original or false because it's a original or not original, true or false.

To say original and false are two different categories, so it's not a true dichotomy. Such an improper question. Are those are those a Real Jews or are there the false Jews in Israel and Jerusalem? Oh, there you go.

Now, are they true or false? That's up for God to decide, but I'm going to assume that they are the true Jews. Whoa, come on down. Oh, the agnostic Jews. How can they be the true Jews When the real Hebrew Israelites were migrating throughout the four corners of the earth.

How can they be the real? You know what I'm saying? Um they would know better than you guys Now you know Revelation talks about that. There are the false Jews in Revelation 2. They're sending God of Satan.

Yeah, that's you guys. Yeah, that's you guys. Yeah. Women know, women be careful now. How can we be false?

If we were the one migrated To the four corners of the earth.

Now that's been real by the statement. The Jewish people were all over the four corners of the earth.

So that doesn't. You're not saying anything.

Okay.

White men there, white men there. Are those the Paul's Jews? Uh uh those the Baker Jews.

Well, I'm going to say that they're the true Jews. I'm going to say the black Hebrew Israelite group are the false Jews of the synagogue of Satan. Wait, but what the Let's don't sit up and let's take a time in this town. How is it you'll take out history? History has been edited.

And you're gonna take our history and you gonna Say, we're in the falls. Yeah, if history's been edited, how would you know, since you weren't there to and witnessed the editing, how would you know? You know, because everything of the lies that we've been told, man, we know this stuff is all myths. But you don't know logic. Is all mint.

I'm sorry, but you don't know how to think critically. I'm sorry. You guys don't do that. You don't think critically.

Okay, you're making the same thing. I know what you're saying, though, but I can understand why the lies have been told, the myth. Islam is i.e., because no one wants to follow the Hebrew Islight because we are the ones That we're the favorite, we're the chosen children, and we got to leave it. You're chosen of Satan. You're chosen of Satan.

Yeah, you're his children. Absolutely. What the man? Time on time? How can we be.

Well, who's the one that most shit layer? Who's the one that? The the your heart will come and spoke to the people only. The Hebrew Israelites. That's why they are putting the Deuteronomy 28 curses.

It's because they're funny's pagan gods. You got you serve a paper. If they don't start to walk in the truth, they are up under curse if they father's Jesus. All this Jesus stuff is all lies. Lie it on such things don't name Jesus.

Look, you've been deceived by the devil himself, you, and many others. The Jewish people have documented continuous historical presence back through their lines. They've kept their own lineage. Uh the genetics uh supports uh what they are about, not what you guys are about. You guys, you don't know logic, you don't know history, you don't have the facts.

And you know, I'll say it out. I'll debate your best Hebrew Israelite guy. Bigger bitch. When you wanna set it up.

Well, you know, do you know about the genealogy? Hold on, hold on. You have to find the best one. who will agree to debate me in public.

Okay.

You know the bait word. Yeah, let's debate nothing. The truth is going to override every time, man. We know this. Do you know about the genealogy?

The genealogy in Matthew 1? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, we go to Genie Argyll. Yeah.

Do you know about the genealogy? I just said, yeah, I know about the genealogy in Matthew 1 and also in Luke 3. Jesus be in the genealogy Jesus not even in the genealogy well that's up on the Satan. What? What are you talking about?

Matthew 1. It's no such thing as all this this genealogy Jesus is in the lineage. He's not even in the lineage. All this is false. No, the genealogy in Matthew 1 is through Joseph, the one in Luke 3 is of Mary.

The reason that there's both is because the one in Matthew, through Joseph, It shows the legal line that his legal authority threw through Joseph, who pronounced his name and thereby adopted him. Matthew uh Luke 3 is the genealogical tracing of the biological line through Mary up to the same source, David.

Okay, you guys are wantingly, I mean, you guys are just woefully. stupendously. ignorant about so much is because you have the cult mind. The devil's got your brain.

Well, you know, truth will prevail every time, man. Truth's gonna we g it it's gonna be proved at the end of the day. When you're a lot of people going to hell, the Bible said in Matthew seven, Man, nigga how y how are you gonna talk about the Catholic religion when Christianity is up on the Catholic uh Catholic religion under the umbrella of Catholic religion. No, true Christianity is not Catholic. And and if you were to know anything about what I teach, I've written like one hundred and fifty articles against Roman Catholicism on my website.

So, you know, to say that we believe what the Catholics believe. How you gonna knock your mother? What? That's your favorite. What are you talking about?

That's your father the devil, the Catholic religion, that is up under Christianity. Christians are Catholic, and all that is Christians, which are liars.

Okay, look look Kent. Um you have difficulty uh Thinking consecutively logically. You jump around, you don't seem to deal with what I actually respond to you about, you ignore it and go on to something else. And this is typical of those who are brainwashed. It's a typical brainwashing.

Response that you have. Instead of facing something and thinking through it critically. Your false religion teaches you to ignore facts, ignore logic and thinking, and just go to something else. That's what cults do.

Okay, can I ask you one question? Just did ask another. Do you believe that we have been doctrinated? To all Lies in this system of the world, which is Satan's system, politics, religion, education, all of it is corrupt. Do you believe that?

Not all of it, no. What part? Tell me what part is not corrupt. whatever agrees with the truth of Scripture is not corrupt. Churches are corrupt, that's number one.

Because we go to the Exodus upon the Ten Commandments, have the commandments, they're breaking the commandments, Christianity. They're not up on the right day, they're not up on the right name, they're up on the false. Kent. You're not thinking critically, you're not thinking logically coherently, you're not putting together sentences that need to be put together in a logical, consistent manner. to establish the facts.

You behave like a cultist. Look, I've been doing this for 46 years. It doesn't mean I have all the answers, but I've talked to thousands and thousands of people who can't. I I'm sixty-nine.

Okay.

Six nine, okay. I'll be seventy this year. That's right. I'll be seventy this year. So but doesn't mean I'm right, but I'm just telling you that you are you exhibit the same attributes and and behavior and characteristics of people in in uh deepen cults.

And I've talked to many. What other freaks? One other question I want to ask you before you ain't got why are there okay then okay we we'll come down to your level Jeff. Why are there so many denominations if we serve one God? Yeah.

Romans 14:1 through 12 tells us that we're allowed to have differences of opinion on varying issues. And we're not to pass judgment on one another. This allows then the idea of denominational differences.

However, I would say that Protestantism has gone way too far in this. But we're allowed to have differences.

So, differences don't mean you're not serving the true God. You can have differences in what's called the non-essentials of the Christian faith.

Okay.

I disagree, I think all of his confusion is ideologist. And everybody has their own idea and way of making money, 501c3.

Well, how many divisions are there within the Black Hebrew Israelite movement? Nothing but one? No, that's not true. Hundreds. I can't think of I don't know but one Yoah no no no no no there's look the different groups that are in there there is the gathering of Church of Christ Church that's a movement there is let's see the CLG there's the Church of God and Saints of Christ there's the ISUPK there's the Ram Gadal Gabar Yam Okay, there's the security.

They're not true Hebrew is alive. They're lost. They'll come from Jesus. What do they say about you? They're going to follow Jesus.

They still follow, and said a Hebrew Israelite, Jesus was a white. That's not even his name. I mean, they feel all. See, here's an example. I addressed what you said, I showed you some divisions, and now all of a sudden you're saying Jesus is white.

They say that he's white. And you're not addressing the issue. I'm showing you, this is an example of you not thinking critically. I've shown you, you know, quoted different groups that claim to be within the black, Hebrews, or light umbrella. And you just ignore it.

You went to something else. No, they say Jesus is white. That's a racist problem you have. He is. It's racist.

I'll follow white. It's racism. Jesus, y'all follow his white, but the Savior is a man of bronze. Is it okay for a black man? Is it okay for a black man to marry a a uh a white woman?

I don't see anything wrong with it. Coming to the truth, there's nothing over there.

Okay, well, that's good. I'm glad you said that.

Some would say that. I'm a love.

Some would say in the BHI movement, some would say that is an abomination. Others say it's not.

So you have divisions.

Well, no, we're not to ra uh we're not to marry outside of our race. That what that's what Yahusha always told us to stay in our lineage. That's what he wants to keep the bloodline pure he wants to keep the bloodline pure. Define what a race is. There's really there's nothing but one race.

Every race come from up under the black race. It's just about one race. A Adam and Eve were black. Yes, sir, all day longer. And how do you know that?

Y'all come out from us. Where are your grandparents? Do you disrespect the grandparents? We're your grandparents. Do y'all dispect us?

But you're gonna be held accountable.

So what evidence do you have that they were black? or white or anything. And Africa, you go back to the original we go back to the original of everywhere else, our origin. Even the name Jesus, go back to your origin. That name Jesus is Latin.

Christ is Greek, which that goes back to Roman Greek, which is a white European God. It cannot be his name.

Okay.

Well, look, we're at the end of the show here, and I was going to say that you're not logical. You don't know how to put critical thoughts together to make sense of. I'm not lying. And uh, yeah, yeah. Is what comes from God, and if something contradicts itself, it's not true because God can't contradict Himself.

But you don't make sense about it. We gotta go. There's the music.

Sorry about that, folks. It was entertaining. When I finished up the show, it's just a music example of the cult mind. May the Lord bless you. And by his grace, we'll back on here tomorrow.

Lord dwelling. We'll talk to you then. Have a great day. God bless you. Okay.

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