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September 23, 2024 6:00 am

Dr. Abaddon Shah and Nicole discuss the challenges of setting boundaries with grandparents, particularly when it comes to discipline and parenting styles. They also touch on the importance of maintaining healthy relationships with family members while upholding Christian values. Meanwhile, Dr. Shah and his co-hosts delve into the topic of textual criticism and the original text of the New Testament, highlighting the work of Dr. David Allen Black and Dr. Shaw's new book.

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Where's my Mountain Dew? You're listening to Clearview Today with Dr. Abaddon Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm Ryan Hill. I'm John Galantis. You can find our show online at ClearviewTodayShow.com.

Or if you have any questions for Dr. Shah or suggestions for new topics, send us a text to 252-582-5028, or you can email us at contact at ClearviewTodayShow.com. Did you mouth that a lot with me? I started moving out of the corner of my eye. I was like, what's happening? I forget that we're on the same camera.

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We'll leave a couple of links right there in the description, so you can do just that. I tried to copy you, but it didn't work. I don't know your part, as well as you know mine. Well, I wrote your part.

But also, the cadence kind of changes from here and there. I hate to do two gripe vines in a row. Oh, no. Friday was a gripe vine. You had the weekend break, and now we're opening up Monday. It's a gripe sandwich. Well, we're the gripes of the bread, and the weekend is like the lunch meat and the cheese and all that stuff.

And the weekend is the contents of the sandwich. Welcome to the gripe vine. Welcome to the gripe vine. Walmart.

The end. That's the gripe. They do too doggone much. Walmart does too much.

What do you mean? Okay. Here's the premise of Walmart, right? You've got a supercenter to buy all your stuff, like your home goods, your electronics, what have you, and you've got a grocery store.

I can get on board with that. I can remember when not all Walmarts had groceries. Oh, yeah. I remember that, too. It was just a supercenter.

Anything you need, home good wise or electronic wise, we got it here. They had pets, for goodness sake. They had fish in Walmart. They always have kind of done too much, but it was reasonable. Then they were like, hey, we got groceries. And I was like, that's actually kind of cool.

Everything you need for your house, food and items, you've got. Then it's like, we're going to have a McDonald's. Sure.

If you get hungry, yeah. I'm in there shopping. I might be there a while. My wife spends four, five, six, seven, eight, nine hours in there.

We can do that. Nine hours in a Walmart. We're going to have a haircut place. I don't think I need to get a haircut when I go to Walmart. That's kind of weird, Walmart. Why are you going to have a haircut place in case I'm shopping so long that I need a haircut? I'm spending weeks in there. We're going to have a vision center so you can come in and get your prescription and get glasses for your eyes.

Maybe, as you do sometimes. Walmart. Need to do. Ain't that kind of weird, Walmart? I already have an eye doctor that I go to. Have a pharmacy. Get your medications. Come and get y'all medicine at Walmart. Walmart. Get your plants at Walmart at the outdoor center. We're going to have a Western Union.

If you need to ship money internationally, you can do it at Walmart. We're going to have a basketball court and a swimming pool and a rodeo. We're going to have a bank. We're going to have a church so you can come and worship in a... No, what? No. Why is y'all doing so much? The whole thing is where they're going to be the one-stop shop.

The more stuff you add to that, that just proves that true. Have you ever used... Be honest now. Have you ever used any of the... Have you ever gone to Walmart to get your eyes checked? Have you ever been like, it's time for a haircut?

No, but I have gone to Walmart for a haircut. Ryan. I have.

Ryan? I have. No, you didn't. It went great. I'll be honest with you, it went great. You went to Walmart for a haircut? Take that out. I did. Hey, David. I went to Walmart for a haircut.

Hold on one second. It was cheap. No, we got to take that out of the show, man.

But it was cheap. You can't let people know that you... Did you for real do that? I did. Do we keep this in or are you shamed or... No. Keep it in?

Sure. That Ryan Hill, host of the Clearview Today show, gets his haircut at Walmart. No, not gets his haircut at Walmart, has gone to Walmart for a haircut. There's a difference there.

I'm going to let David decide whether he wants to. And I'll tell you, it wasn't great. You didn't like that Walmart haircut. No, they were nice.

They were nice, but it wasn't great. I just feel like you're doing way too much. I don't even know what Walmart is anymore. It's Walmart. It's a category all its own. It's a restaurant, grocery store, bank, Western Union, McDonald's, theme park, church worship service. I've lost...

It's way too much. We've lost the point. And I don't even go there no more. I forgot about the pharmacy. I didn't even put that in my nose. We've lost the plot somewhere. I've got a pharmacy and everything. I get it, the one-stop shop, but a haircut?

This is just esoteric at this point. I'm done. Does it not bother you?

You've got to do what you've got to do sometimes. It doesn't bother you that Walmart has all this stuff that's seemingly unrelated. No.

I mean, if they're trying to meet people's needs, what is this? Let me see. Did we get that in the thread? No.

Nicholas sent that to me. It's an old woman. It's completely unrelated to the show.

Why is this? It's completely unrelated to the show, but it's a... I thought that's what... I thought that's what you were trying to tell me.

I was trying to tell you the arcade. I didn't see that until after Jon took my phone. It's an old lady.

That chase didn't come through. What the heck is that? It's a picture... Maybe we can drop it in the show, but it's a picture of an old lady scaling a church door, it looks like. I don't know how to make sense of it. We've gone off the rails.

This is not good radio. Can we just transition? The only thing I sent was, y'all were talking about how Walmart has everything, and I said it used to have an arcade. Does anybody remember the Walmart arcade? No. It had an arcade? Yes.

Yeah. It had a kid's arcade where you go in and you could play games and you could play pinball. There's the electronic section where it had the full arcade of games. No, no, no, no.

In the front. You don't remember that? No, I don't remember it.

Oh, there used to also be a photo developing section where you could develop your icon photos and stuff like that. I'm done. I'm done. I'm remembering a whole bunch of... Anyways, the old lady is not a part of this. Yeah, that's just a funny meme that Nicholas sent.

Sure. We've gone off the rails. You need to transition us into the ad break so we can get Dr. Shaw in here to bring some order back to the silliness. Bring us your Walmart thoughts.

What is the most outlandish purchase you've been able to make at Walmart? 2-5-2-5-8-2-5-0-2-8, or you can visit us online at clearveetodayshow.com. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Hey, what's going on, listeners? My name is Jon.

And I'm Ellie. And we just want to take a second and let you know about Dr. Shaw's new book, On the Market Right Now, called, Can We Recover the Original Text of the New Testament? Boy, that is a long title. True, but it's a very simple message. The original text of the New Testament is not only attainable, but there are lots of different ways that scholars go about discovering it. There's a lot of people out there saying that the original text is lost forever, or that it's hopeless to actually try to find it, or that there's many texts of the New Testament. But alongside Dr. David Allen Black, Dr. Shaw has actually compiled papers from some of the world's leading experts in textual criticism, including one written by himself on various methodologies for extracting the original text. And listen, if you're interested in textual criticism, this book is a great introduction to the field. You can pick up your copy on Amazon, or you can buy it from our church website. That's clearviewbc.org. We're going to leave a link in the description box so you can get your copy today. Love that. Ellie, let's hop back in.

Let's do it. Welcome back to Clear View Today with Dr. Abbadan Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. You can visit us online at clearviewtodayshow.com, or if you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text to 252-582-5028.

That's right. And we're here once again in the Clear View Today studio with Dr. Abbadan Shah, who is a PhD in New Testament textual criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor, and the host of today's show, along with perma guest, Nicole Shaw. Welcome to the show, Nicole!

Back once again in the Clear View Today studio. Dr. Shah and Nicole, I am livid at Walmart. Why? So, here's the thing.

I think they do too much. When I go... Dr. Shah, for real, when was the last time you went to Walmart and thought, man, you know what? While I'm here, I need a haircut.

While I'm here, I need to wire some money internationally. I need to just stop and pick up a loaf of bread for my family, but while I'm here, I think I'll go get my family portraits done. When you're like... So what part are you not happy about? It's just too much.

You all are doing too much. Like, for instance, for instance, if we came to you, if you came or if you came to your... Like, think about in 2008, right, where you and Nicole were starting to reimagine Clear View. That was 2008, right? Or was it back in more than 90s? Earlier than that.

I would say 2005. Okay. So, 2005, you're coming to the church body and you're saying, guys, here's our vision for Clear View Church. We want a church that's relevant. We want a church that has excellent worship services. We want a church with a theme park. We want a church where people can come and you can just transfer money to your folks overseas. We envision a church that has... With an ice cream parlor. That has an ice cream parlor, so we'll sell ice cream to the people of the city. We envision a church with a space program. Oh. Now, do you think...

I'm not gonna go to that church. You're doing too much. I mean, it was really cool when it was like, hey, you can get home supplies and you can get groceries all in one place. I get it. Yeah. Why do I wanna go to Walmart and get my eyes corrected? Yeah, I know.

Why do I wanna... Well, I can tell you this much. Two individuals who came to America, this is back in 1992, who loved Walmart. That was my mom and dad.

Really? What was their favorite thing about Walmart? They had to walk around and pick up stuff and look at it for hours. Meanwhile, we were in class or something. We were in college when my mom and dad came for my brother's wedding. And so they were in the dorm.

They were in this guest house at the college, because he was a guest speaker traveling all over the East Coast preaching in different churches and all that stuff. So in the daytime, I would just take them to Walmart and I said, look, I have a class for like two hours, there's the bathrooms right there, and if you're okay, I'm gonna be back. And you're like, yes, we're fine, we're fine. And I give them a cart and they would just walk around. Have they ever seen anything like that? No. Never.

No. Now, my dad had traveled, but Walmart is Walmart. Where in the world do you have... Nowadays, you got so many places like that. But back in the day, to walk in there, you can get cosmetics, you can get medicine, you can get pots and pans, you can get clothes. You can get fish. They had fish.

They did have fish. I remember that. Garden supplies. Uh-huh. Everything. Yeah.

Whatever you might need. David said in the intro, they had an arcade. If you don't even wanna deal with your kids, you can send your kids over to the arcade. I don't even know if they have them anymore or not. I do remember doing that, actually, when my kids were young. I remember Rebecca was probably somewhere elementary school, maybe fourth, fifth grade.

And so then the other ones were younger. And I wouldn't let her go until I got to the checkout line, because I could see straight into the arcade. And they would be asking me, can I get this, can I get it? And I'm like, no, no.

We don't have any. Stop asking me for things. Oh, the candy and stuff at the checkout line?

Yes. So then they would spot the arcade, and they'd say, can we... I'm like, sure, go in there. And when I'm done checking the groceries out, I'll come get you. That's such a horrible marketing play that literally every store does.

Like all the candy and all the little toys are right at the checkout, so all the kids are like, can I have that, can I have that, can I have that? Why do you think Ellie goes by herself and leaves the kids with me? 100%. I want to know. I'm not taking my son. 100% why.

Absolutely. Because Gavin loves Walmart, but Gavin is a... I don't want to say he's a manipulator, but that is the word that comes closest. We made a deal one time where he needed to get rid of some toys. He sells toys he wants in Walmart, and he's like, I want that. And so we're like, all right, we're going to make a deal. You choose 10 toys to throw away, we'll go get it. He did it.

And so I was like, okay, we're going to hold to my word. So we go, we get him his toy, whatever. I was like, wow, that's kind of expensive. Maybe that one. Next time we go in Walmart, he sees another one, he's like, hey, can I have that? And we're like, no, no, not this time. He's like, I'll throw 10 toys away. I'll find toys to throw away. He remembers.

He remembers. And so I was like, we might be done with Walmart for a little while. That's the price. What is it going to cost you, 10 toys? What he did, he's three, he's three years old. We went home, he put 10 toys in a box, brought them to us and said, I want to get rid of these. And I was like, why do you want to get rid of these toys? And he was like, I want a new one. I want a new toy.

I was like, I want a new one. That is too funny. So we're- He's a smart little boy. He is.

We're done with Walmart for a little while. Isn't the same kid who chose a whooping over- Chose a whooping over, yeah, I hadn't told that. Maybe he can hold that for another time.

I'll hold it. But yeah, this is the son who literally when placed with the choice of doing something he didn't want to do and didn't something he did want to do, I said, you can do this, but it's going to cost a whooping because I really don't need it. He was like, I'll take the whooping. Three years old.

Three years old. I'll tell that story. That's a really good one.

I'll take the whooping. Wow. And he took it.

I said, okay. That is hilarious. That's hilarious.

I don't know what I would have done at that point. That's why when you get too old, I don't know if we're too old, you cannot have kids. You can have grandkids, but you cannot have kids.

You cannot raise them like that. I hate to quote Kevin Hart, but that was the first time I gave a truly confused whooping. I was just confused as I was giving. I'm whooping a kid, but instinct is question marks.

I don't understand. Why am I doing this? What's going on here? I was like, okay. Kevin was not confused. He's like, I know. I won that deal. I won that deal. He did anything, but I got it. He was sure what he wanted. He took it.

Yeah. And he got it. Well, the verse of the day today for us is coming from Jeremiah chapter nine, verse 23. God says the Lord, let not the wise man boast in his wisdom. Let not the mighty man boast in his might.

Let not the rich man boast in his riches. I think that's one of those verses that just always stays with you. And I think we talked about this on the show before. We have this new song that's out, Battle Stains of Calvary, that really truly is that.

We're going to boast as Christians, but we're going to boast in Jesus Christ and his cross. I think that's the song. Let's see. What is the date this is airing? This is the 23rd?

The album is not available yet, but it is coming October 13th. Make sure you pick up our copy. That's right. But yeah, I love that verse. You were actually the one who got me to read Jeremiah for the first time. That's right. I'd never actually read it. I was going through my devotionals and I was asking for some Old Testament books and you said, yeah, I would just start a Genesis and just go.

That's right. But then we got onto Jeremiah and man, what a book. I remember getting through that book. I never felt a sense of accomplishment finishing a book as I did when I finished Jeremiah.

Right. Jeremiah is a powerful book. This is written at a time when God's people are getting ready to go into exile and there are some promises needed for them to know that God is faithful to them. And so it is one that we all can use when we're going through a difficult time. God is faithful. God is faithful.

That's right. Well, you know what time it is, don't you? Oh, you knew this was coming, my friend. We got a long one today. You want me to do it?

Go for it. Here's the mail. It never fails and makes me want to wag my tail. When it comes, I want to wail mail.

I couldn't get it out. This one comes from Mike S. Long time listener of the show. What do you think the S might say? Nicole, what do you think the S stands for? Mike S. Say it. Stupendous. Mike Stupendous. Amen, Nicole. Mike Stupendous. Grapevine for you. Okay.

Starting off strong. And it may or may not hit close to home for one of you or your wives. Maybe you've already vented about it. Meemaws are great. I agree with you there. We love them. Even the meemaws that aren't blood, but are like meemaws to our kid. Hey, Nicole, you were raised in the South. If anybody's listening and don't know what a meemaw is, what is that? That's a grandma. That's your grandma.

That's what we call them down here. Granny. Yeah, granny.

Nana. But nothing beats meemaw. No, nothing comes close to meemaw.

Meemaw is high octane fun 100% of the time. Even the meemaws that aren't blood, but are like meemaws to our kids. But sometimes, meemaws do questionable things under the color of meemaw law. For example... Meemaw law. And this is in quotes. Someone started cross-ditching that right now as they're listening.

Hashtag meemaw law. For example, hypothetically, of course, when they very playfully encourage your toddler to do something that will lead to behavior you know you'll have to fix in that child later. Oh, no. Like bopping other kids with an item that's by zero means injurious and may even be cute and funny to watch at the time, but as the parent, you know that silly playful bopping with a non-dangerous item today will encourage all-out chaos with a blunt object to the unsuspecting victim tomorrow. Mike Stupendous, I gotta tell you, man. I've got a tender-hearted poet in my house and I've got a brute. So I'll tell you, I know that's 100%. If Holden is hitting with an inflatable hammer, oh, he's gonna be hitting with drumsticks.

He'll be hitting with anything. Then they laugh it off like, oh, silly me, bad meemaw, teaching them bad things, shame on me, hearty har-har, disclaimer, situations in this gripe vine are based on real events. The names of those involved have been omitted to protect the innocent, and in this case, the guilty, broadcast at your own discretion. In this case, the guilty. Mike Stupendous. Mike, what up? I love it.

That's a good one. Mike's hilarious. I know who that Mike is. He's quite phenomenal. That is hilarious. Long time support of the show.

His brain thinks things outside the box. Mike, I'm gonna give you a round of applause. Excellent Clearview Today message. Guys, have you ever had to deal with meemaw law being enacted, where you're like, this ain't good? Yep. Oh, my goodness.

Have I? Well, I do remember one instance when Rebecca was a toddler, truly a toddler. It wasn't anything really bad, but it was one that we wanted to just warn her about and don't do this. And so I remember I think Avidan might have knelt down to talk to her. I don't know. And then all of a sudden, my mom, who was Nana, she was like, come on over here, baby.

So you don't get in trouble. No way. No way. No way. No way. No way. Put the brakes on right there. No, no. Come to Nana.

Come to Nana. Somebody, I know you're gonna continue the story, but somebody out there may be listening and be like, well, what's the big deal? She don't want her baby to get in trouble. And they truly can't see why that's a problem. What would you say? I would say, you know, you're helping them learn behaviors that's gonna get them in trouble.

I mean, on any other given day, it's gonna get them in trouble. And I do remember, my dad, before he died, he started where he, I remember Rebecca was about six months old and he called me up and he said, we want to keep Rebecca for two weeks or a week. Something like that.

That go with the summer, wasn't it? It was without you. We don't want you here.

We just want Rebecca. Okay. And I was like, okay. And he said- Kind of weird way to frame it, dad, but all right. I mean, that's really what, they just wanted the grandbaby. And so my mom continued to do that over the years, even after my dad had died. And she did it up until the kids just, you know, especially my kids got too old and they had more things to do during the summer.

And I would tell her when I'd pick them up, I'm like, you know, I have to spend weeks, at least two weeks, undoing all the damage that you have done in this week. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

That's real. Did your mom listen to the show? I don't think so.

I hope not. She told it to her face once and then I guess it's all good. If she listens to the show and she hears this story, she's going to say, oh yeah, that's me. Nothing new. That's me. I might as well tell the story of how my parents were with our kids when the dancing began.

Oh, okay. Now I do remember that. We have, we actually have video of it. We have video of that.

Yeah, we have video of it. Well, they were playing, I think, I don't even remember the music, but I want to say it was Michael Jackson. I think it was Michael Jackson. And when he was growing up, Michael Jackson was taboo in the house. You know, you don't listen to that.

That's secular, terrible music. Well, they started, they were listening to some of Abaddon's old tapes. Yeah.

We found the tapes lying around. So I'm like, oh, look at this. So they turned them and they're the girls is, this is when, this is before the boys were born.

So this Rebecca was five and Abigail was like, do you remember what album it was? Uh, it may have been, I want to say maybe bad. Okay.

Maybe bad. All right. So they started dancing. They're jumping on the beds. They're dancing all around.

In India at your parents' house. Yeah. It was not bad. It was off the wall.

Off the wall. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. It was further back. So then we walk into the room and there's his dad standing there kind of dancing around and laughing and saying, you know, and I'm like, cause you knew how this has changed. We had to like hide these things from my parents. So if you, so if they had walked in and you were listening to Michael Jackson, would it be like, come on son, what are you doing? Or would it be like, Hey, this is a real problem.

We got to figure this out. No, it would be more, they never really like told us not to listen to that because most times I would like watch foreign movies and I would say, I'm just learning English. And they usually came late at night and they were not that great.

Yeah. They were not good. Um, and many of them were not even in English.

They were weird Swedish garbage and it was like watching stuff. Um, but you know, so dad was like, what are you watching? I'm like, Oh, just, it's just, it's kind of helps me with English. So, okay. Do you think he bought it or did he just didn't care that much? I don't know. I don't know.

I've never asked. But, but Michael Jackson with the grandkids, he was all for it. He was great. He was great. He was dancing.

It's so funny. Did you talk to him about it? Well, it was not as much like don't listen to Michael Jackson music or anything like that. It was not like that. Right. But it was more no dancing.

We don't dance. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

We don't do that. Really? Yeah. The granddaughters.

He was dancing. Right. Wow. It is funny to watch your parents become grandparents to see all the ways that they, you know, were maybe, maybe stricter or structured with you because you gotta be with parents and your kids.

But then grandparents come. Oh buddy. I have a video of it and maybe I'll, um, maybe I'll drop it.

I'll send it to the guys and they can drop it in the video, but I have a video of, well, I should say my dad, he was not strict across the board, but he was strict about certain things. Right. One of them was there is no eating anywhere other than the kitchen table.

Oh really? No. No eating in the living room.

No. No eating in the, on the porch unless we're doing like a barbecue or a cookout. But meals, snacks, they're all consumed at the kitchen table. If I wanted a bag of chips, you sit at the kitchen table, eat it.

Really? He was very strict. Like you are, like we had a little countertop, but you eat in the kitchen. So tell me why both of my sons are in his bed eating ice cream in his bed, not, not in the bedroom, mind you, they're in his bed with towels laid out. And I'm like, my mom sent me the video and I was like, mama, you better, you better get that out of there before dad sees it. She panned over. He's there just laying there watching him eat ice cream.

I could not believe it. It's either the grandkids that do that or after that point in your life, you just realize what matters what doesn't. I guess maybe a little bit about it. As you get older, you realize things that you, I mean, they do matter, but by the time you get to be the grandparent age, it's like, I've done my job, it's time to spoil the children. One thing, one thing I would warn our listeners and our viewers that if your children are disciplining their children because of some bad behavior issue, try not to interfere. In fact, support your parents, support your children in their discipline because they're trying to raise good, good kids. You love your grandkids because your children are doing a great job. So don't undermine them, you know, don't, don't undermine them.

Just sort of maybe remove yourself from that situation and say, let me go, let me go, let me go on over here. But I do remember now me growing up, I remember one set, well, I say set, but, um, one of my, my grandfather's, he was, he died before when I was very young, so I don't remember him. But the other set of grandparents, they would spank their grandchildren.

They expect them to behave. So I grew up, I grew up with one side was like, whatever you want, honey. And the other side was you're going to behave because my, my dad's mother was like, no, she never spanked us. She was, she was up in age by the time, you know, we were old enough to be that, but, but she was tough because she had so many because my mom's mom only had three grandchildren and one of them was grown and I was the only boy, whatever I wanted over there. My dad's mom, granny, the one that you met had like 20 grandchildren tons, so she wasn't putting up with nothing.

She was done, she was over it. So you couldn't play around at granny's house. That's probably what it was because the grandma that let us get away with anything had four and the grandmother that made us behave had 11. That's a good point because my, my mom, I feel like with my, uh, with my kids is very much like whatever you want to do.

So fun, super fun. Uh, but then, you know, Elizabeth's not mom, I mean, her mom is still that way, but Elizabeth's grandmother, when we go visit her grandmother, now she's, she's up in age, but she is, she is loving and dotes on them, but she's also like, you're not going to run to the house. You're not going to slam doors like very much like this is the expectation, but still like let me scoop you up. Come here, let's get a treat.

But there's still, there's a, that measured approach with like, I'm going to be kind and loving and we're going to have a great time, but you are going to follow the rules. They're either that or they're this ice cream in the truly, truly. Would you let your grandchildren eat ice cream in your bed? Nope. Absolutely not.

I'm going to be, I'm going to be the grandma that loves my grandchildren, but they're going to behave. Would you let Nicole eat ice cream in your bed? Uh, she hasn't done that in a long time. Well, we don't have TV in the bedroom anyway, so eating ice cream in the bed is not an option.

Not even, not even a thing. But maybe when I'm on a vacation, for me, I can't stand any crumbs in the bed, lay down and have all these little prickly things. I don't like, I don't like eating in the bed, your oldest daughter is the one that got Ellie start eating in the bed and I'm not talking about like, like Rebecca used to used to sit. She would be in her bed with a steak and a baked potato and just a knife and fork in the bed. And she was using the pillow and she was using the pillow as like a table and be watching TV and I'd be like, Rebecca, what is going on? This is your house. Nicole.

We better not sleeping in that bed with her. Do you have any advice for anybody who's out there and it's like, okay, these are all kind of fun examples, but I really am struggling with boundaries with my parents or my parents in law. Like my, what do you call it?

My in-laws. I would say first Corinthians 13 11 Paul says, when I was a child, I spoke as a child. I understood as a child, I taught as a child, but when I became a man, I put away childish things. So know the difference between childishness and, and maturity. Like there are things that kids will do because they are kids, but then there are kids that are now becoming adults or they're becoming teenagers and they're still carrying on the same attitudes, behaviors, and they're not healthy.

They're not good. So know the difference and know where you have to go. Hey, we need to address this.

That is not allowed. Definitely. There's some things you go, oh, that's funny and okay. Just, you know, turn your head and you laugh when your kids are not looking what they, what they're doing. But then there are things you go, yeah, leaving you like there, you're going to become despicable to some people. Yeah. I'm not going to do that.

The way you put it, Dr. Shah, I think was, was most helpful for me. And I think this is the way that I think too. I don't want my kids to be despicable to other people. I don't want, and those are the things like, there's times where I see my son doing things that I don't like, but other people are really enamored. They're just, oh, he's so cute. He's, he's, you know, doing this thing. I'm like, okay, at the end of the day, like you said, he's a kid, but then there's things I know that people will, I don't want my son to ever be like, oh my gosh, here comes that kid. You know?

Then you know those behaviors that lead to that and you, so it's, it's kind of easier to make that distinction when you have that framework. If you guys enjoyed today's episode, write in and let us know 2525825028 or you can visit us online at cleerviewtodayshow.com. Don't forget you can partner with us financially on that same website, scroll to the bottom, click that donate button and let us know what's coming from our Clearview Today show family. Big thank you to our permanent guests, Nicole Shaw for being on the show today. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

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