Hi, I'm Dr. Abidan Shah, Lead Pastor at Clear V Church and host of the Clear V Today Show. If you're looking for solid biblical truth in a world full of noise, I want to introduce you to our friends at the Truth Network, your home for faithful Christ-centered broadcasting 24-7. From powerful preaching and insightful biblical teaching to engaging talk shows tackling real world issues, the Truth Network brings you programming that strengthens your faith and equips you to stand firm in God's Word. Wherever you are, whatever you're facing, the Truth Network is here to encourage you and challenge you with bold biblical truth. You can listen live or stream on demand at truthnetwork.com.
Or for even more convenience, you can always download the Truth Network radio app for free from the App Store or on Google Play. You're listening to Clear View Today with Dr. Abidan Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm Ryan Hill. I'm John Galantis, and we've got a great show on the dot for you guys today. But we do want to welcome a very special guest alongside Dr. Abidan Shah, who's a PhD in New Testament textual criticism professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor and the host of today's show.
Of course, we all know this. It's perma-guest Nicole Shah. Welcome. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Have you been on the show since we've had the new setup?
No. I was just thinking to the next guest. You're the first guest. As we were starting, I was like, this is Nicole's like, not only Nicole's first time in the new setup, but you're the first guest. You're the very first guest in the new studio. That's true as well. I'm honored.
I mean, these chairs ended up being a little bit bigger than we imagined, so we had to give it a little more space to get the wide camera. They look nice. They really do look nice. Dr. Shah and Nicholas picked these.
I love these. Yeah. The only thing is- It's really Nicholas. He got this going, and I approved it. At first, I was like, okay, all right. The sitting down, relaxed chair talking concept is different from the blogging book. Right. Where we're just sitting around the table and with the microphone.
So this is more where you're engaged with the audience rather than engage with each other. So yeah, I'm happy with it. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. There's a lot of space. I feel like there's a huge gulf between me and Ryan. Well, now, here's the deal.
I'm sitting closer to the middle than you are. Right. So if I was to do this- I think that says more about you than it does about me. I don't know if this is good for audio.
I don't know if this is good for audio. Oh, we're sharing a microphone now. Okay. We like to do little production notes after every episode.
Every single episode, they're like, there's just a lot of space between you and Ryan. I'm like, I don't know what you want me to do. We'll just share the microphone. We just got it. Yeah.
Well, I got this arm now, so I guess I could go closer to the middle. Hey, verse of the day is 1 John 4 and verse 21. It says, in this commandment we have from him that he who loves God must love his brother also.
I love that. It's a reminder that our love can't be separated from God. A lot of people think that. Like, I've got love and I don't need God to display love. Or God's love is fine, but I've got my own love and I'm going to share that with the world.
But you really can't separate them at all. Yeah. The reason that you're able to love your brother is because God first loved us. That's right. The only reason we can display love is because we've been shown love.
That's right. Well, Jesus said that when the young lawyer asked that question, or the lawyer asked the question, which is the greatest commandment? And he said, you know it. And he goes and explains the first is, love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. And the second is like it, love your neighbor as yourself. And on these two, hang all the law and the prophets. And the operative word there is the word love.
Because love is that motive, the motivation behind law. And this is not something that I think Jesus invented. This was always the way. This is not something that happened when Jesus came that, oh, now we see the law through the lens of love.
No, that was always the way. God's people, the Jewish people, go further back. The people of Israel, go further back. The Hebrew nation as it was founded and began with Moses, they understood when they got the 10 commandments or the ceremonial laws or the civil laws, that the word that was operative is love. And the second is like it, love your neighbor as yourself. So your relationship towards God should be motivated by love and your relationship with people should also be motivated by love. And so when John talks about loving God and loving people, he's really hearkening back to the law, which is not abrogated.
It is still working. It is still operating in a Christian's life. So we still have to keep the law, but this time we understand that love is the motive and the Holy Spirit is the enabler. He is the one who empowers us. That's what the fruit of the Spirit is all about.
You know, we're talking a lot about ministry, especially being in ministry, as long as you two guys have been in ministry. Have you ever found it hard to love people? Oh, yeah. Every once it is very easy.
Everyone is lovable. Right. No, no.
I mean, it is tough on some situations and you have to, you have to remind yourself to just be focused on God. Don't always follow your heart. Yeah. Good point.
I think Disney might disagree with you on that. Yeah, yeah. There's also another truth that if you run because, you know, you run from a situation because there's people that you don't like or people you don't get along with, there's always going to be, you know, people don't change the world over. So you move or you leave a place and go somewhere else, you're going to find somebody pretty much the same.
They may have a different face, a different name, but they're going to have the same issues that you ran from. That's right. Well, you know, talking about ministry and marriage, we're going to be talking a little bit about marriage today.
And there's one thing I think that a lot of marriages could really stand to benefit from. Oh, it's Million Dollar Monday. All right. This one's kind of good. I had this one. This one actually is user submitted. I like money. Money, money, money.
This one is user submitted. How did that saying go? Money won't solve all my problems, but it sure will help. It'll sure help. Yeah. It's not going to solve all my problems, but the most immediate ones that are pressing. Oh, yeah. It'll definitely help. Yeah, it's going to help a lot.
It can send a couple of ladies up floating around in space. I'm still not letting that one go. That's right. All right. This one was user submitted.
Jack T. from South Carolina. Sure. Million dollars, but for the rest of your life, Dr. Shah, I think you'll take this one.
No problem. I wouldn't do it. Million dollars for the rest of your life. You can't use any data storage. No SD cards, no flash drives, no hard drives.
The only thing you can use are floppy disks. For a million dollars? For a million dollars. Oh, I'll do it.
I figured you would do it. You know, the older you get, they realize how much is a million dollars? I'm like, I can hire some people and that is their job. Right.
Manage your file storage. I'll pay them 50 grand and that's all they do day and night. So you wouldn't even bother using the floppy disks? No, I wouldn't mind using them if you give me a million dollars. Do you think we could get, like legitimately, do you think you can get floppy disks like here to hook up to modern Macs? Like they make adapters? No idea.
I'm sure they probably do. They do have adapters for CDs. What was the last time you genuinely used a floppy disk? Oh goodness. I mean, you're going back to... I was probably in high school.
No, there's no more than that for me. The floppy disks were up until, I would say, 2000s. Yeah? Yeah.
So I remember... When I was in elementary school, I remember using them for like Book Report. Yeah, I used them in the mid 2000s. Like legitimately used them for like saving stuff?
Absolutely. I remember I got saved in 2007, and I think really about 2008, 2009, I started like getting into like the music and stuff. And the church that I was at, their piano, legitimately, you could load in sounds on a floppy disk. On a floppy. And I remember being like, what is this? And some of the older people were like, oh yeah, that's a floppy. I was like, I don't want to call it, what is, I don't know what this is. They're like, hey, you just put stuff on the floppy and you put it... I was like, stop saying that. Please stop saying floppy.
They were saying like, that's supposed to make sense. What did you put on there? Like your sermons and your notes and stuff? Oh yeah, sermons, notes, my dissertation in the early, early, early stages. There's copies of your dissertation on a floppy disk?
But I really completed my dissertation in 2019. So by that time, that had become obsolete. So the early, early stages of my dissertation are on floppy. Could you access that data if you needed to? Unless I can find a floppy disk computer. Yeah. Yeah, you'd be hard pressed to find one.
I'm sure they make adapters out there somewhere, but you'd be hard pressed to find one. I really want to look into this from, I mean, I don't have a check right now to cut for a million dollars, but Nicole, would you do it? For a million dollars? Yeah, yeah, I would do it. Think about this now.
Think about this. You're trying to complete your master's, your master's, right? So you've, you've got, David found one. They found some.
Is it USB-C? Yeah. That's hilarious. So think about this now. Think about this. Think about this.
Okay. Your, your professors asking for your, your thesis, right? They're like, all right, you need to submit this pretty soon. And you're like, well, I can't give it to you on a flash drive.
I have it on a floppy. Can you read this? You would turn that in to get your master's? Well, of course.
I mean, I'd say a million dollars. Yeah. That file. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say yes for her. That file's gonna get you a degree.
Well, it doesn't matter what it looks like. I think Pastor Schuss, I think Dr. Schuss kind of, uh, when you have a million dollars, you have the confidence to be like, this is your problem now. Take it.
The data's on there. I would almost be like him. I would be like, I'll just hire somebody to do that.
Yeah. You know who doesn't have a million dollars? The professor.
The professor. They don't have a million dollars. Yeah. They definitely don't. They definitely don't.
I remember when I first got into college, like when I, when I was like 18 and I was getting into college, I was like looking at all the professors like, man, these guys have got it made. Like they're, they're the ones. No they don't. They don't have any money.
Many of the professors are, they're very, very meager in their salaries and in their spending because they just don't have money. So would you give them the floppy and then put a hundred dollar tip and be like, here, you get the floppy. That one's for you. I can do it. I can do, I can do that.
Just for them. Yeah. I can do it.
Slide it, slide it under the floppy. Here's my, here's my thesis under the name Franklin. All right.
Benjamin Franklin. I also would do it. I think, I think I changed my mind. I would take a million.
A hundred percent floppy. Guys, we're going to take a quick break and be right back at you with a more clear view today. Hi, I'm Dr. Abidan Shah, lead pastor at Clear V Church and host of the Clear V Today show. Every day we bring you bold biblical truth to help you navigate life with clarity and confidence.
We tackle the tough questions, dive deep into God's work, and bring a fresh perspective on faith, culture, and the world around us. But none of this would be possible without the faithful support of listeners like you. When you give to Clear V Today, you're not just supporting a radio show. You're investing in a gospel driven mission to share the truth of Jesus Christ without compromise. Your financial partnership helps us stay on the air, expand our reach, and continue creating content that encourages, equips, and transforms lives.
Would you prayerfully consider supporting Clear V Today? No gift is too small and every dollar goes directly towards furthering the message of hope and truth in Christ. To give, just follow the link in the description below and click the give button.
You can make a one-time donation or become a monthly partner. Whatever God lays on your heart, thank you for standing with us in this ministry. Together, we can make Christ visible. Welcome back to Clear V Today with Dr. Abbadan Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ.
That's right. Dr. Shah, today's check-in comes to us from a young pastor. He did not give his name, but somehow mysteriously he did mail in a floppy disk. I don't know how this happens. This is crazy.
He did not give his name or his state. The check-in is just the text, but it says it's been four... Hi, Dr. Shah. Love the show. I've been a long-time fan, been listening for a long time. It's been four years since I stepped into this role, which is my first pastorate. This church has become my home, my mission field, and my joy.
I've poured my heart into this people, and I've seen God move in many lives. But lately... That's wonderful. Amen.
Amen. But lately, things have been hard at home. My wife, who once stood beside me, says she's tired of the small-town pace, the never-ending needs, and she's always feeling like the church comes first. She tells me that she's not bitter, but she is burdened, and now she's pressing me to leave the church. I don't think she's against ministry, per se. She just doesn't feel called here anymore.
This has caught me so off-guard. I love my wife, and I love this church, but right now they're not pulling the same way. So I'm praying more than I have in a long time, not for answers, but for wisdom and for peace. I don't want to move out of frustration or stay out of fear of losing my wife. I want to walk wherever God leaves, even if it's uncomfortable. Any wisdom would be appreciated.
Thank you very much. You know, what you just read is far more prevalent than we understand, than we realize. And because many times couples go into the ministry and they have such either a misunderstanding but also they fail to understand what ministry is really about and the hardships that come with it. Do you think that comes from not growing up in ministry or just seeing poor examples or maybe a little of both? I would say just lack of understanding. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, growing up has a lot to do with it as well, but I think it's just immaturity. Yeah, immaturity. They think ministry is just like a glorified Sunday school class, where I come and I teach my Sunday school class and I love other people a little bit, listen to them complain a little bit here and there, but overall it's all good. Some people like me, some people may not like me. Some think I'm the best teacher, some may not like me. And they still talk about their old teacher who cannot teach anymore. But now I'm in that role.
So it is what it is. Overall, ministry is just one step higher. The two of you, both together and separately, I'm sure have counseled countless couples, many of them in ministry. Would you say that this problem is disproportionately younger couples? Like, do you ever see this in older couples or is it mostly younger couples getting into ministry early?
I would say the disillusionment would probably be younger couples because they don't know what they're getting into. They don't understand what it takes to do ministry. And I don't know if we truly understood what it took to do ministry at first when we first started. You know, we both grew up in pastors' homes, so we saw a lot. It took time, I would say, to start drawing from the experiences we had.
Initially it was like, oh yeah, this can be done, this can be done. And then hardships came, and the church is not growing, or the finances are tough, and we see other people enjoying things in life, whether it's a house or a car or vacations or clothes, and you go, oh, we don't have those things. But if we had just gone here or there, maybe we could have had those things. And so in those early stages, we felt a little bit like maybe we were doing something wrong. Maybe we need to try somewhere else. And this is all good and nice.
These people are loving everything, and yes, things are working fine. But overall, it could be so much better there. I definitely would say for me, and I know in the very beginning stages when the church wasn't growing, when things weren't going the way we thought or finances were tough, whatever the situation was, I think that both of us at different times would say, we need to get out of here. We need to leave. But God had different plans, because we did, I mean, we tried. We did. We sent out resumes and all those things.
Like tons. Tons, but we did. And because we just thought, this is just not, it's not growing, it's not us, but God had different plans.
Good point. Oh, go ahead and say what you said. Well, I was going to say, I've heard each of you say independently, and Dr. Straub, we talked about it on the show, that moment of coming to the realization of, we're going to burn our ships. Like, we're here.
This is where we're going to be. Our only church, until we leave this earth, God has us here. Can you talk about what that process was like of coming to that decision together? Well, so in the early few months of being here, I decided to bring in an executive committee meeting, which is like basically the church, except for a few people who were not very active in the church.
It was a church. So we brought this group of people together and presented a plan to them of how we can grow, what we need to do. And after a good hour and a half of giving statistics and biblical passages and plans and great strategies on what can be done, they shot it down.
It was like not interested. The whole thing. The whole plan.
The whole thing. Some even did it sympathetically, like, yeah, we sure need to, but right now we just don't feel like that's what we need to do. So I was like, oh. And then others were quite blunt about it. We expect you to go on after a year or two being here, go find something better for yourselves. Use this as a learning experience.
Some were like, we're happy the way things are. But different ways of saying the same thing, which is we're not going to change. We don't trust you to lead us. You don't have enough experience. You don't have enough understanding to take us on this venture because we are safe here and you're calling us to take risks. And we don't trust you.
We don't trust in your competence. And so that was tough to take, and that's when we put our resumes and things like that. Yeah.
That was still early in those years. But as the time went on, and I will have to say that I believe it was you came to me and you said, I've been praying about this and I really believe that God is calling us to stay here. Yeah. And it was after a conversation with my dad because I called him up and I told him that we're thinking about moving because financially it'd be better for the family, opportunities would be better.
I would be in a different setting and all that. And he, in his characteristic way, said, are you going to listen to me? And I said, yeah, sure. And I knew sort of what's coming. And his answer was, don't leave, don't run.
Because if you run today, you're going to run all your life. Now Nicole's dad had said something similar while I was still a youth pastor. That was a year previously prior to being the pastor of this same very church. Because it was sort of difficult at the time and I wanted to just leave and go somewhere else. And he said the same thing to me, right?
Yeah, he did. So a year later, now I am the pastor and my dad says the same thing, don't leave because if you run now, you're going to run all your life. And at the time, I didn't like hearing that because I was like, you don't understand. So when you, so that's a good question because I think it might relate to this pastor who's writing it.
When you went to Nicole, was it after you had processed and come to that agreement with your dad or was it like, hey, I talked to my dad, he thinks this, like a let's get on board or was it I'm going to take time and come to the decision, then bring it to my wife? Oh, I didn't receive it well. When my dad told me that, I received it more like, you don't understand, you don't get it.
You're not in the situation. But now looking back, he was very well in that situation because he came to a church that had barely 50 people, if that, in a small town, the church was an old British church. Britishers had left, now the locals had taken over, kind of not taken over, but it was passed down to the denomination with now the locals who are running the church and had gone through a series of pastors and difficult situations. So dad came in to his church in a very similar place. And he was constantly trying to leave in those first few months, a year. He used to have a resignation letter in his pocket at all times.
Really? Just ready to throw it down on the table if he needed to? And he would give it to his chairman of the deacons, which was his future father-in-law, Thomas Franklin. And Thomas Franklin would take it and put it in his pocket and say, okay. And then a week later, my dad would say, ah, let me have that letter back and say, okay, here you go.
So they did that many times. It's like when my kids, when your kids hand you a little something, all right, thank you. Thank you, buddy. Just put this in your pocket. And then say, can I have it back? Yeah. Okay.
Here you go. And then he would bring it right back. And so anyways, he did that for a year or two until he finally made up his mind that I had to, and Nicole and I had to make that decision that we're not leaving, this is it. And we're going to, by God's grace, make it work. So I would say two principles are very, very, very important. One I already mentioned at the start, which is don't listen to your heart. The world says a lot about listen to your heart.
There's even a song, right? Listen to your heart. And my heart is corrupt. My heart is selfish. My heart is limited. It's moved by emotions. It's moved by what I feel in the moment, whether it is ministry or just a regular job. Forget about a ministry trying to serve Jesus. Go out there.
People do the same thing. My heart's telling me to go move out of this business and go into another one or move out of this job and go to another one, move out of this city and go somewhere else. My heart. How do you know that your heart is telling you exactly what you need to do?
Don't listen to your heart. David listened to his heart after that incident where Saul was in his camp. Of course, he was chasing after David. He was in his camp and this was nighttime. He was asleep. His bodyguards were supposed to be awake guarding him and they weren't.
They've all fell asleep. And David and his bodyguard or his armor bearer, they sneaked into the camp, got Saul's pitcher and his spear and they sneak back out. And then they got on top of a hill in a distance and called out in the morning, called out and said, hey, King, look, I have your pitcher and I have your spear. Actually, they called out to his bodyguard and said, you didn't do a job.
You didn't do the job you're supposed to do. And so Saul wakes up and he goes, oh my goodness, yeah, I could have killed you if I wanted to, but I'm not going to touch the Lord's anointed anyways. All this goes on. Saul says, David, you are going to be a great man. You're going to do great things. You will prevail.
And it seems like everything is fine. But the next line says, but David said in his heart, David goes home, Saul goes home. But then David said in his heart one day, Saul will kill me.
And he runs over to the Philistine country. Now for all practical purposes, God is telling David, look, you did what you were supposed to do. David, you went down there and you showed Saul that you could have killed him, but you didn't. And Saul even says, you're going to prevail.
God is blessing you, my son. He says, my son. But something happened and he still said in his heart, one day Saul's going to kill me. And listening to his heart, he decides to run to the Philistine, and then you know what he did. In Gath, he pretended to be crazy and all that stuff. And he went around killing people left and right.
Now of course, Romans 8 28, God works all things together for good. He did do that, but he didn't have to do what he did. Because guess what he lost in the process?
His hands were covered in blood. Because the Bible talks about he went out killing a lot of people who were ancient peoples. When he was in Philistine, he went around killing a lot of people that I don't think God even told him to kill. So don't listen to your heart. And secondly, I would say, don't think too highly of yourself. Don't think too highly of yourself. Because Paul talks about that in Romans, don't think too highly of yourselves. Because sometimes we get to a place, like we were in the early days, and I don't want to talk the whole time, I think we were thinking too highly of ourselves. Yeah. Well, I believe we probably thought, you know, we deserve better.
We grew up in pastors' families. We know what we're getting into. Almost like I know what it's supposed to look like, but this ain't it. Yes. And when we got into it, like you said, when we got into it, what we pictured, what we thought, it was not, you know, it was nothing.
Yeah. Not, you know, in that way at all. But when you surrender your heart, when you surrender your life and you say, you know, I'm going to do what God wants me to do rather than what I want to do, pretty much not following your heart, then I believe God blesses. God blesses that because you have laid down your desires. You have said, okay, you know, my heart says I want to do this, but I know not to listen to my heart. I know what God is telling me to do, and I'm going to do this. I'm going to be obedient.
Right. If you could encourage this young man's wife, because I think what I could see happening is we were speaking to this young pastor and he's like, yes, yes, this is what I've always wanted. And she's listening to this, and maybe I don't know if you want to listen to this with her, but if she's listening to this and she says that's all well and good, that is what God has called you to do, but you're asking me to sacrifice my life and my vision for my life so that you can fulfill God's calling and I'm having a hard time doing that.
What advice would you give her? I would say in this situation, it's not just a principle for us. That principle in the Bible, in the Old Testament, in Samuel about David listening to his heart or the principle in Romans chapter 12 about don't think too highly of yourself, those are not principles given just to us for our church here. Those are principles for life. You can apply that whether you're in ministry or not. If you're listening to your heart, whether you're out there or in a ministry setting, you're setting yourself up for failure because your heart will oftentimes lie to you. And secondly, don't think too highly of yourself because that's when we find ourselves in so much trouble because we think I can do so much better. And even here, I've done that at times, in the years past, not recently, praise God, you'll begin to learn a few things. Thinking too highly of myself and thinking like I deserve better, I'm bigger than... And immediately you fall because an old habit or old behavior or some hang up comes up or a situation comes up that you go, oh, I don't know how to handle this, didn't expect that. I thought I had tons of experience.
And then all of a sudden you have one that completely blows you away and you go, oh. So we need to have a right estimation of ourselves. Now let me turn that over for the last minute if I can.
For sure, please. Those are negatives. Don't listen to your heart. Don't think too highly of yourself. Those are both negatives.
Let me give you the positives. Listen to the heart of Christ, okay? Listen to the heart of our Savior. Don't think too highly of yourself, that's negative. Think highly of Christ.
Focus on who He is and how awesome He is. Because yes, it's right, don't listen to your heart, don't think too highly, that's correct. But the positive is how you should live because if you only focus on the negative, you'll find yourself very stale.
You'll just be restrained all the time. Positive is where you are here to glorify Christ, where you're listening to His heartbeat. And when you hear His heartbeat, you realize, man, He is doing something powerful and I need to wait on His time and I need to follow His example.
I agree with that, but I also hear something in that little, in the text that He sent. I hear the wife saying that this is your ministry and this is your calling. If you're married, then it should be our calling, it should be our ministry. And the mistake that a lot of people do make, I feel, is maybe not even really discussing this before you even take a step into the ministry, that you understand that before He took the church, He wanted to make sure, are we both on board? This is ours, this is not just mine, this is ours. So when she uses the language, your ministry, your calling, there's not a team, there's not a together, so that's a huge problem. And I would say, man, don't ever sleep on a small church, because guess what, this was a small country church one time.
Like a good Sunday, you have what, maybe 20? And we've got a radio station right now, we've got a show, we're on Pray.com, and we are legitimately touching the world. The whole world.
We're touching the entire world. There's people in the East, there's people all over the world who have heard Abaddon Shaw, and it's not because we worked hard enough and we believed it, but it was 20 years of faithfulness. It's like, I'm thinking this guy, it's easy to build up the fairy tale in your head, like I've been here four years, but if we just stay another year or two, we'll have that breakthrough.
Like, yo, it might be another 20-something years. Follow the heart of Christ and seek to glorify Him. Don't think too highly of yourself, but think highly of Him, and you'll see great things. Amen. That's right. So good. Man, so encouraging. Make sure you guys join us tomorrow, same time, same station. We're going to be diving into another great topic here on The Clear Read Today Show. Thanks again to our sponsors for making today's episode possible. Thanks to permanent guest Nicole Shaw for being on the episode today.
Thank you for letting me come. Don't forget that you guys can support us by subscribing to the show on iTunes if you want to re-listen, and you can always support us financially at Clear Read Today Show dot com. Jon, anything you want to plug as we close? Yes, we have got a brand new video series over on Prey dot com. It's called Discerning Doctrine with Dr. Abaddon Shaw.
Every single week we take you through some deep theological doctrines of the New Testament and the Old Testament as well, but we're seeing a lot of feedback to Discerning Doctrine. So thank you guys for all of you who've already subscribed over on Prey dot com. We're closing in on 3,000 followers. That's right.
So let's keep that number growing. Thank you. You might be listening on Prey dot com right now. Head on over to Dr. Shaw's page. Follow it.
You can follow all of our exclusive content right over there on Prey. That's right. Also, shout out to our spring play happening very soon west of Pecos coming up the first weekend in May, May 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
Tickets are $5 apiece, and they are on sale now, and you might just see a familiar face up on the stage in west of Pecos, i.e. Dr. Shaw, except he's not going to be Dr. Shaw. He's going to be someone else. I'm meant to, okay, I know we're out of time. We're out of time, but the whole reason I'm having Nicole on was I wanted to gripe about this. Can we do like a posthumous gripe vinyl real quick? Posthumous gripe. I'm going to make it real quick because we are legitimately out of time.
Light and fast gripe. Dr. Shaw wanted to do a cowboy play because Dr. Shaw loves cowboys, right, and he wanted to be in the cowboy play. Something in my mind says Dr. Shaw wants to play a cowboy in the cowboy play, so Nicole said, okay, I hear you. I got it. I'm going to make you a French actor with a silly mustache who is a coward, and the first time he comes on stage, everyone boos you, and he wanted to be a cowboy. Everybody in the play is a cowboy, but the one who wanted to do it.
Right. But I also had to, you have to realize the man is busy. He really wanted to be in this play, and this particular character had the fewest lines.
I'm actually enjoying it. I think it's a fun role. It's a fun role. It's different, but it's fun, and I think if I was just a cowboy or one of the rustlers, it would have been great, but it would not have gotten the laughter that it's going to get. It would have been fun role, but then Peter pedigrewed you. Probably.
That's probably right. I already was- I've never heard that made into a verb. I already wasn't cool with the whole, all right, he's a French actor when everyone else is a cowboy, but then when you got on stage last night and everyone goes boo, I was like, come on, y'all.
This is not, the only thing he wanted to do was be a cowboy. All right, that's it. We're out of time. For more information, you'll have to come see if you need tickets right into the show and let us know 252-582-5028. We love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow on Clearly Today.
