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And we're going to talk about the Democrats. A lot of people don't realize this, but they debanked. People, they got these banks to go in on a scheme with them to debank their political opponents. I was shocking when I heard about it because I thought they only did that in third world countries, but apparently they also do it in Canada too. And now it has come here.

Let's start the show off with this gentleman, David Harsani. He is the senior writer for the Washington Examiner and also, heh, hey, let me try that again. Also, the author of The Rise of Blueinon: How the Democrats Became a Party of Conspiracy Theorists. Find him on exit, David Harsani. David, welcome to this show.

Good morning. Happy Friday. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yes, it's always great to have you.

I love when you're on. The news I want to start off with this because it's a Friday, so let's have a couple of laughs every now and then, right? The news doesn't always have to be serious. Uh cut six. This is on MSNBC.

All right, so are you ready? And this is David Jolly, and he's talking about Donald Trump's social media posts, which I have to say I think have calmed down since the first time around. I think he's mellowed a little bit. Listen to David Jolly here, and I would love to get your take on this. I'll take your metaphor a step further, which is if this guy was at your holiday party last year, you wouldn't have invited him back because this is a lot like what he did last year and what he did on Easter.

Look, I think we see him do this on holidays, on Christian holidays. The man, Alicia, is jealous of Jesus Christ himself. We saw this last December. We saw this on Easter. We saw this now.

And truly, I mean, I think this is one of those moments where you realize. The man's upset about all the attention baby Jesus is getting by the Christian world on Christmas. And so at some point, he just has to start rattling the cages and saying, hey, look at me, I'm over here, I'm over here. Yes. They now say Donald Trump is jealous of the baby.

Jesus. It's hilarious.

So I just thought, what's your analysis of that? Yeah. Not sure I can't analyze that other than to say I mean, yeah, Donald Trump has a big ego, but I think he tweets basically or whatever every day, right?

So I don't know that he's got something against the baby Jesus. Um But, you know, I mean, they don't know what to say anymore because they've sort of tapped out of the hyperbole.

So there's really no place to go, I guess. And this is just.

Some other Uh I guess that they think will work.

Well, you know, to me, it plays right in with your book, The Rise of Blue In How the Democrats Became a Party of Conspiracy Theorists, right? And this just came out. It's just came out a couple, what, a month ago? And it's so timely. And you're starting to see it with these, you know, the conspiracy theories that they're coming out with.

You know, and to your point, the hyperbole is just so over the top. He's literally Hitler.

Now he wishes he was Jesus. He's jealous of the baby Jesus. They go so far. Do they actually get to the point where they lap themselves? Do you know what I mean?

That they just lap themselves and the whole thing dies down and then they just start up again. They've just become jokes at this point. I think they're kind of wallowing right now because they revved up and ratcheted up all the Paranoia, you know, to the point where they got to, you know, Trump is Hitler. But when he won and won convincingly enough, that they couldn't really, you know, come up with a new Russia collusion or whatever. I feel sometimes when I watch them now that they don't know what direction to go in, what to say exactly.

So they're kind of reverting, you know, jealous baby Hitler kind of like reverting to form a little bit. But I think they're confused, honestly, what to say. Once you call someone Hitler, there's not a lot of room after that to ratchet up your rhetoric.

So So I think that they're still just trying to figure things out, especially in places like MSNBC, which obviously have lost a lot of viewership. I think there's a lack of trust there, probably from the left as well. in the audience being convinced, you know, that that that Donald Trump was going to lose and that Republicans were Hitler and that everyone would agree with them. And when that didn't happen, they probably lost some trust among even, you know, their hardcore, you know, leftist fans. I want to stay with MSNBC and Eric, can we just go to cut five?

And this is just the last piece of audio I'll play for you. This is Jen Circlebakisaki. And she's talking about the role of AOC in the party. And I find this very interesting in light of the election and how they analyze, you know, how they're grappling with the stages of grief. And it's interesting to me how she and others are viewing this.

So here's Jen Saki. House Democrats missed what I would consider a big opportunity. They passed over Congresswoman Alexandria Elcasio-Cortez for the top Democratic spot on the Oversight Committee and said they chose Congressman Derry Connolly, a much older member who was backed by Speaker America Nancy Pelosi.

So, why does that matter?

Well, I mean, this is one of the few committees in Congress that actually generates national attention or media coverage. Under Jamie Raskin, it became a critical platform for countering Republican misinformation. And while I have deep, deep respect for Speaker Pelozzi, she's been on this show many times, she's fierce and nothing against Congressman Connolly at all. This felt like an obvious chance to apply some of the lessons we should have learned from the November election, right? Instead, Democrats passed over one of the youngest, most media-savvy members of Congress for a key leadership public role.

So, Tummy, AOC is part of the problem on the left and part of the reason why the left is losing. You've got Jamal Bowman out. You've got Corey Bush out. The members of the squad are dwindling. Why would you want to elevate AOC just because she's media savvy and has a big mouth?

The woman doesn't know how to use a disposal. Do you really want her in leadership on the Oversight Committee? What's your take on this? Yeah. I think she's delusional.

Um AOC appeals. First of all, it's A complete myth that You know, you always get this, like, we need a new generation, we need young blood.

Well, honestly, old people get elected, right? I mean, Trump is not young, he's known. Biden was not young. I'm not saying young people can't succeed or younger people can't succeed in Congress and so on, but just because they're young doesn't really change the dynamics of anything. AOC's appeal is to the wrong people.

This last election showed. Good. it's the progressive end of the party that ruins them. It's the whackadoos that turn off normies. This was a normie election.

As all the all the rhetoric about Donald Trump, he's actually quite moderate on almost all positions. You know, so at least that's my take. And so that he attracted a lot of independence. who and others who just didn't want to deal with the social science quackery and all the you know, they, them, and and all of that. And AOC represents that.

Like you said, the squad is losing members, not gaining members.

So why would you turn to them? I don't know who's the best person to run a committee for the Democrats, but certainly The more you see of AOC, if you're a normal person, the more you realize she, I think she is, has some charisma, but she's not, you know, she's not. Exceptionally bright or anything, and she doesn't have any new ideas, and she's not especially competent.

So, yeah, I think she's delusional, Jim Saki. She's the latest bright shiny object, I think, for them. I wanted to ask you about uh changes uh in the voting, and I also wanted to ask you about Hunter Biden and and his legal fights. Would you be able to just stay with me through this? Can can you stay with me through this break?

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So, Donald Trump, one of the things he wants to do is overhaul the nation's voting procedures, and he wants to get that voter ID and proof of citizenship requirements. And he wants to do it quickly in the beginning of his term in office. What are the odds of him being able to wrangle the Republicans and getting them to all march in the same direction on this? Probab I d I don't know, but I mean, my I think slim in the sense that there's such a yeah, slim margin in the House. I don't know if I'm for it, honestly.

I am for it. I mean, I agree that we should have a voter ID, but I do worry about national bills for elections because in the long run, I think it's a state's issue and that once Democrats get in control, they're going to start to want to pass bills that do worse things to national elections.

So I mean, it's tough because they probably do it anyway.

So I I d I don't know. But yeah, I think it would be slim to because there's such a slim margin in the House and probably some of the senators wouldn't want to do it. Yeah, how do Democrats actually pitch that showing an ID makes it harder to vote or having to prove that you're a citizen makes it harder to vote when in reality the vast majority of Americans actually want those things?

Well, they use euphemisms to explain it. They'll say it's Jim Crow two point zero rather than saying it's a photo ID or a state issued ID. And they also think and act at least like they think that minorities aren't as smart as they are, that they can't just go get an ID like everyone else, which is ridiculous.

So I think that's actually one of the issues that's backfired on that. there's this paranoia, I write about it in my book, where you're trying to convince a whole millions of people that people that the government's trying to stop them from voting when it's easier to vote than ever. They'll mail you a ballot. It's literally the easiest thing to do. Yeah, it's 100%.

But, you know, it's so funny because if you ask people what Jim Crow is, the people are like, oh, it's Jim Crow 2.0. Could you explain Jim Crow to me? They have no clue. The left is very good at rhyming chance. And that's what they put their policies into.

Like it's just a couple of word rhyming chance. You know, hell no, we won't go. Jim Crow 2.0. That's what they do. And people pick it up and they don't understand even what they're talking about.

Well, a lot of it also is about victimhood. They want to create the. The idea that the a paranoid idea again that there are victim classes in this country because a lot of what their political aims are are to help people who are helpless, you know? And honestly, there are fewer and fewer people who are helpless in this country. And certainly minority groups can do very well here.

And I I maybe hopefully, you know, there's been a change.

So in in this last election and maybe that'll continue among minority voters. You'll make the Democrats cry if you tell them that because they thrive on victimhood. Speaking of victims, Hunter Biden's a victim. Did you know that? Did you know Hunter Biden's a victim?

I find this fascinating. And he's actually suing some people.

So he's still got some legal fights coming up. He is suing the nonprofit group Marco Polo because they publicized the contents of his laptop. The laptop that he abandoned At MacBook at the repair shop in 2019, which has a policy that clearly states that if you leave it and you don't come pick it up for a year, it is our property and it is considered abandoned and goodbye.

So he's suing the people who are publicizing this. Does this go? I mean, honestly, Hunter Biden seems to be that guy who always lands right side up.

So I think he's going to win this. Yeah. I don't know. But I wonder how discovery goes.

Okay. I think he's a big Corrupt guy. I mean, but I think his dad is even more corrupt because his dad allowed him and empowered him to do the things that he did. And we don't need to go through it all, but the you're right. The New York Post got his hands on that laptop in a completely legal and journalistically ethical way, which is why probably I don't know a ton about this, which is probably why he's not suing maybe the New York Post or something, you know, someone who can Perhaps.

You know, it is more suited to defending themselves against this sort of thing.

So it'll be interesting to see what we learn in Discovery, though, as Charlotte goes on. He's also suing Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler. They were the two IRS whistleblowers. He's suing them. Because he alleges that they participated in media interviews and they improperly spoke about his confidential tax return information rather than following proper whistleblower protocols.

What I find interesting about this is they were all for leaking Donald Trump's tax returns. Remember? Remember when Rachel Maddow got the Donald Trump? Oh, we got him, we got him. You know, they were all for leaking that, but Hunter Biden now is suing because two whistleblowers came forward.

He's not saying what they said wasn't true, though, right?

So it's interesting because it was. Without those two guys, you know.

Well, he did get away scot-free, I guess, in the end, but they w we wouldn't have known about this at all. I mean, the government tried to give him pardon. Uh the Justice Department tried to give him a pardon. You know, before he was given the presidential pardon.

So, this is interesting. Again, I don't know if they followed protocol, but I think the country owes them a great debt of gratitude, those two guys. Yeah. Lastly, we have Congress. There are three GOP-led House committees that referred him to the DOJ for criminal prosecution, claiming he lied and committed perjury during testimony.

And it seems as if this is all the House has done looking in to Hunter. Tom Cotton hinted that the Senate. Which will be led by Republicans, could be interested in investigating Hunter even more. Knowing I look at the past history of the Republicans and I'm like, Yeah, there's not a chance in hell that's happening because they don't they just don't fight, so I don't see them doing anything like that. Do you think that Tom Cotton could be on to something, that they could actually do something?

Yeah, I mean, I think they can do something. I don't know how far it will go, but I will say this, he's been given a pardon, Hunter. But that doesn't mean you can't look into what he's doing and see if what it had to do with Joe or what it had to do with his uncle or what it had to do with their family, which benefited tens of millions of dollars.

So I also think that it's important for the public record, you know, our history. We need to know how corrupt. Joe Biden was, and I believe he was incredibly corrupt.

So, from what we know so far, unless there's some sort of explanation, which is unlikely.

So, yeah, I think it's worth investigating. How well they will do, I don't know. I mean, Tom Cotton, you know, maybe he'll maybe, maybe it'll be all right. We'll see. I mean, you're going to need assistance from the DOJ and stuff in the end, probably.

So, we'll see how that is. And that would be Pam Bondi, which you'd and Hunter would have to testify because he can't invoke the fifth anymore.

So, that would be that would, I would, I would pay, they could put that on pay-per-view and make millions pay down that national debt. And lastly, you have a report from special counsel David Weiss, who was the one who prosecuted Hunter Biden.

So there's a special report coming out. My hunch is that it's going to be wildly redacted, and we're going to be sadly disappointed when that finally comes out. No, I think you're right. He has been terrible. He tried to basically pardon Hunter during, if it wasn't for a judge, I forget her name right now, saying this is ridiculous.

You know, they tried to give him basically. A pardon on crime. Basically, they tried to give him a pardon on crimes that weren't even investigated yet. And the judge says, Is there any precedent for this kind of deal? And they said, No, there's no precedent.

In the United States, in our history, this has never happened, but it was happening for Hunter Biden.

So, David Weiss, whatever he's saying, I would be very skeptical that he's telling us the entire story of the truth. We'll see. And you're right, it will probably be heavily redacted, which it shouldn't be.

So, when the new DOJ comes in, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe we'll get to see more. We'll see. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I have such hope for next year.

I'm like, Yeah, great twenty twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven and twenty eight. It's going to be great. Even put that on our Christmas card, it's going to be great. But then I realize, eh, it's the Republicans and I lose all hope. It's sad.

Well, it's not just that it's the Republicans in my view. I mean, it's that there's a culture problem, right? In the Justice Department, for instance, or government. You have a government that is generational, basically, employees in a town where everyone, you know, is you know, it's a party town and the party's not the GOP and it's definitely not conservative.

So It's difficult to change that culture and get to the bottom. The swamp is deep and it's a lot harder to change that culture than you might think.

So, not you, but you know, you, the, the weed, the royal weed. And so, we'll see.

Well, David Horsani, thank you so much for joining me at the end of the year here. I hope I get to talk to you again soon. Have a blessed new year. You too. Thanks for having me.

Thanks so much. Coming up next, EJ Antoni will be joining us on getting debanked in America. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmeade. I'm Mary Walter in for Brian Kilmead, and I'm with you on Monday as well as we head into the new year.

Let's talk about Something that's been going on, and I've seen these stories, and it's been going on for a couple of years. And to me, it is a very, very frightening trend that is happening. And I don't think enough people are aware of this.

So I'm super glad that we have EJ Antoni with us. He's a research fellow in the Heritage Foundation's Grover M. Herman Center for the Federal Budget. You can follow him on X at RealEJ Antonio. EJ, thank you for joining me.

You're one of my faves. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you. Oh, Mary, it's my pleasure. Thank you for having me, and I hope you had a very Merry Christmas.

Of course, of course, everybody. But don't even if you're working, you can have a Merry Christmas because it's not about the parties. It's all about the reason for the season, right?

So, this just drives me crazy. I'm so glad we're talking about this. I've seen these stories over the years where people who have committed the crime of supporting Trump wind up getting quote-unquote debanked. And this is something that they do in China. If you don't have a good social score, they basically make it impossible for you to access your money.

You can't have a credit card because you don't have a bank account. You have to live like an illegal in this country. And you walk around with a ton of cash. And they started doing it here. They did it in Canada with the truckers.

When the truckers all came into the capital there and they were blocking the roads and stuff, they cut off their funding. There was a GoFundMe for them. They locked that down.

So they're coming after you financially to break you. How it's been going on for a while in this country. I I think when did this start? Do you know?

So it first started, as far as we know, under Barack Obama. Really? People forget how big of a movement the Tea Party was and how quickly because of how quickly it died out. The reason for that was because every organization that was associated with the Tea Party was targeted by different groups, whether it was the FDIC or the IRS or the SEC, you name it, all of those three and four-letter regulatory arms of government, or in the case of the IRS, taxation arms. You know, they essentially audited all these different organizations and bankrupted them with attorneys' fees, with accountant fees, etc.

So even though many of those nonprofits did absolutely nothing wrong and didn't actually owe any back taxes, they were still, like I said, bankrupted because of this lawfare by the IRS and other regulatory agencies.

So we found all of that out actually in 2020 when secret documents were finally declassified and were released. And what we're essentially seeing right now is exactly the same thing under the Biden administration. But as you just articulated, Mary, now they've been targeting Trump supporters. On top of that, they've been targeting crypto firms and different tech startups, basically anyone who's not towing the liberal line. And is it all banks?

Because I know also after January 6th, Bank of America, which is a huge bank, just handed over. The FBI went to Bank of America and said, hey, we want the names of people who made transactions, who are not from Washington, D.C., who made transactions in the district or the surrounding areas on these dates. And they had a range of dates surrounding January 6th. It was a pretty wide range of dates. They did not present any kind of warrant.

And Bank of America just handed that information over to the federal government. It seems as if our institutions are super willing to participate in this debanking and targeting of political opponents, if you will. Oh, Mary, you're absolutely right. And I would say there are certain distinctions here. What I mean by that is you do have certain companies, I think like Bank of America is probably in this category, where their leadership is much more politically aligned with the left, and so they are willing to turn over much more information than some others might be.

However, you do still have to realize that many of these regulatory agencies of government have so much power, and they can make a financial firm's life an absolute living hell, so that as soon as they are threatened, even if there's not a legal document like a warrant, as you mentioned, given to these financial firms, they will still start immediately turning over customers' data because they don't want to have to go through the rigamarall that's going to be involved with an SEC investigation, let's say, because it doesn't just mean a lot of bad press, it means tremendous costs. just like happened under Obama with the Tea Party, where these different regulatory agencies can impose such high legal fees and such a tremendous amount of financial burden that it's just not worth it for these companies to fight. I think it speaks, Mary, to how overbearing the regulatory state is in America and the fact that these unelected bureaucrats just have too much power that they can do that they can effectively do this to these companies. And to individuals. For instance, so the people on January 6th who had their bank accounts turned over, they don't even know.

The people who had those accounts turned over have never been told if their banking records were turned over to the federal government. My question is, does that first of all, is that legal for a Bank of America to just make that decision to turn over your information to the federal government when you haven't been charged with anything? Is that legal?

Well, it's certainly a very gray legal area. Let me put it that way. And I don't mean to be evasive. It literally is just that the law is not entirely clear there because they are under an obligation to cooperate with these different investigative agencies.

However, that cooperation is not limitless, and the courts have not set very clear boundaries there.

Now would Bank of America be within their right legally to say no, we're not giving you anything until we get a warrant? Yes. Yes, they would. They could have done that.

So then the question becomes, okay, do the customers of Bank of America maybe have standing to sue for their privacy for their privacy being violated? And that's where it's a gray area.

So the fact that Bank of America did not have to do what they did, that's crystal clear. But then it like I said, then it just becomes a question of are the customers able to sue Bank of America or to sue the federal government? And you don't have standing to suit if your records weren't turned over to the government, but nobody know no none of the customers know if their records were turned over. Exactly, Marion. That's such a great point.

This goes to so many of the cases of, let's say, election interference or malfeasance from the twenty twenty election, questions that still haven't been answered. For example, why did every single swing state somehow all stop counting ballots at exactly the same time? No one has ever answered very legitimate questions like that. And so what happened was in one of the lawsuits, the court ruled that because the Trump campaign had not officially lost the election, because until January 6th, the election wasn't certified, they were deemed to not have any standing. They couldn't actually sue because they hadn't technically yet been harmed.

And yet when that case was brought again, it was rebrought to the court after January 6th, then the court said, well, now it's a moot point because the election's already over. But that makes absolutely no sense. But those are the kinds of legal games that people are having to play right now. And unfortunately, in those kinds of games, there's no way to win. Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy. And it's not just the little people.

So, coming up, we're going to name some names of people who have been debanked. And you don't even realize these people have been debanked. And if they can do it to them, they can do it to you as well. And also, you mentioned the Tea Party. The IRS, remember, the IRS was going after them and slow walking their tax-exempt organization status requests, right?

And it was just a rogue, it was a rogue employee in the Detroit office. We never know who that rogue employee was in the Detroit office who took it upon themselves to just slow walk these applications. Lois Lerner walked away, lied to Congress, in my humble opinion, and walked away with her pension, and nothing happened.

So you're right. I forgot that this started under Obama. With the Tea Party. You know, a lot of this stuff goes back to Obama, which is why I think he's the one running the show in his fourth presidency, in his fourth term. That's just his third term, right?

This is his third term. Yes, so he had two, and then his third term is what's happening now. Because it all goes back to him, and you see a lot of the same stuff. EJ, if you would hang on, I want to talk about some of those people whose names you would recognize. There's, you know, there's some poor guy in the middle of nowhere who can't get a bank account, but he's not alone.

And we'll have that coming up for you right here on the Brian Kilmead show. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis, because man, do you need to know? It's Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmeade. I'm Mary Walter in for Brian Kilmead.

We're here with EJ and Tony from the Heritage Foundation, the Center for Federal Budget, discussing being debanked. And it's been done very quietly, and EJ reminded me of it being done with the Tea Party. That's where it started with under Barack Obama. But some names you would know: Peter Navarro. Was debanked.

You know, he went to prison and he was the crime of associating with Donald Trump. But I want to go to cut 12. See if we recognize this person. This person is very famous and was also debanked. This is crazy.

When we left the White House, when I established my own business, the bank suddenly informed me they will not be able to do business with me anymore. Also, I had a very prominent email distribution service provider just abruptly terminated my agreement.

So suddenly, as well as the university, I was all agreed that they will accept my donations for the foster students. And because of the board directors, they call back, they find out that it was me, they said we cannot go on. It's very, very sad because Who suffered? They were children from foster community. EJ, you recognize that voice by any chance?

I do. That would be the one and only Melania Trump, who not only was she debanked, that's true, you're absolutely right, but then on top of that, she couldn't even open a bank account for her son, for Baron Trump. I mean, it really is amazing how nobody is immune to this phenomenon. I think it was Mark Andreessen who was on the Joe Rogan podcast, if I remember correctly, and he was talking about this phenomenon. He was really the first one to draw attention to it recently, at least.

And he discussed how there are so many high-profile individuals, people who are billionaires, who can't even get a credit card today. I mean, it's amazing. You may say, well, what do they need a credit card for? They can pay cash for everything.

Well, where do they put all their cash? They literally can't find a financial institution that is willing to let them do any kind of electronic payments. I mean, imagine today if you tried to live your life all by cash, you couldn't pay for anything, whether it was with Plastic or with your phone. You couldn't wire somebody money using Venmo or Zelle or one of those services. I mean, it really is a kind of financial isolation that is debilitating today to not be able to transact electronically ever for anything.

I mean, there are literally some stores, for example, Mary, where you can't pay cash. And there are certain services that you can only pay for online, either with a credit card or with a bank account. And if you don't have those, you literally can't use them no matter how much money you have. That's actually why some of these. tech founders, for example, have had to set up their own what are effectively miniature banks where they are their own customers.

Yeah. There's something now called with all the reforms of the last twenty years I never knew this. I was today years old when I learned this a politically exposed person, a PEP. And if you're a PEP, you are required by financial rec re you are required by financial regulators to kick them out of your bank.

So if you're a politically exposed person, you are it's required by financial regulators to kick you out. How did that get passed through Congress? Oh, Mary, that's a great question, and I'm so glad you brought this topic up. The really crazy thing is that this actually was not put through Congress at all. And the fact that you mentioned that points out, Mary, why it's so unconstitutional.

See, here I didn't know you were a legal scholar, but what is this? I just play one on Twitter. What has essentially happened, Mary, is the regulators, while the banks don't technically, don't technically have to kick out a politically exposed person, the regulators will make it so difficult for you to have that person anywhere in the accounts that it has the same effect as the force of law. In other words, it would be so damaging to this company, both reputation-wise and financially, that the company is effectively forced. By the regulators to immediately get these people off the books.

And so, if you in any way run afoul of the radical left, if you have any kind of opinions with which they don't agree prominently, then guess what? You're going to be labeled as one of these politically exposed persons, and you're going to get kicked out of whatever financial institution you belong.

So I'm really shocked that a bank has not popped up that would serve these people, but to your point, they can't because the financial regulators. won't allow them to operate.

So they can so you can't have a bank pop up.

So what about like the everyday people? Like Peter Navarro's not a million a billionaire, right? He's not like a super rich guy. They pretty much they've they ruined Rudy Giuliani. They ruined Uh uh oh my gosh, I'm totally blanking on it.

But but they've ruined many people financially who have nothing and if they don't can't use a credit card, right, what are they supposed to do?

Well it's a great question, Mary. And I think part of why they're going after so many high profile people is essentially to scare everyone else. It's to scare the common man, the average Joe, into not having anything to do with Trump, into not supporting any of these more conservative causes, whether that's the pro-life cause or a lower tax and regulatory state, you name it. And what happens is when people see the absolute torture that is going on, whether it's a Peter Navarro or a Steve Bannon going to jail or any of these other folks, they immediately, instinctively don't want that to happen to them, and so will avoid associating with those kinds of people. Let's not forget in 2020 when all of the staff from the Trump administration left D.C., many of them got labeled and were essentially a focus of a vast left-wing attack that tried to get these people removed from all kinds of corporate board seats.

They tried to get them removed from different nonprofits, different donor organizations, like Melania Trump was just talking about in that clip you played, where all of a sudden people didn't even want to take her money anymore. And in this case, foster children were hurt by that. But none of that matters to the left. What matters is sending a message that if you are not with us, we will destroy you. Yeah.

It's insane. And Joe Rogan had on, and we only have like a minute here. Venture capitalist Mark Anderson talking about Elizabeth Warren and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was set up by her, to go after crypto firms. They're they're trying to go after crypto 'cause they can't control it as much. Right.

And not only can they not control it, but this is something that Scott Besant, the incoming Treasury Secretary, has pointed out. The Democrats really are trying to wash off the stink of FTX, the big scandal with Sam Bankman Freed. He was the guy who essentially absconded with all these people's crypto investments, and he donated a huge chunk of it exclusively to Democrats. And ever since the news of that broke, Elizabeth Warren and her whole Indian posse have been on an absolute crusade to destroy crypto. And a lot of that has to do with the fact, again, that crypto investment had become associated with corruption and with Democrat donations.

It's crazy. It's absolutely insane.

Well, EJ, I always appreciate it when you come on because you always make me smarter. And the topics that we get to talk about with you are just so interesting. And they apply to all of us. You know, they're not coming after you right now, but they could be coming after you in the not too distant future. And it's probably banks that you use.

I think we need just like a big class action lawsuit to probably get this to stop. EJ Antoni, thank you for joining me. Have a wonderful new year. You too, Mary. Thank you for having me.

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I'm Mary Walter, sitting in for Brian Kilmead, and I'll be with you back on Monday as we head into the new year. Coming up, if you want to join me, 866-408-7669 is my number, or you can reach out to me on X at Mary Walter Radio. There's only There's no S because there's only one of me. All right, joining us now, Paul Morrow, retired NYPD inspector. He's a Fox News contributor.

You see his smile and face all over the place. You can find him on X at Paul D. Morrow. Paul, welcome to the Brian Kilmy Show. Thank you for taking the time to join me.

Greatly appreciate it. Good thing it's So let's talk about Daniel Penny because I think the Penny effect is in is happening in New York City. You saw a man and a woman be stabbed in Grand Central Station on Christmas Day. The woman was just going to work. I think it was Christmas Day.

She was just going to work. She travels this all the time. The guy stabbed her in the throat. And she was talking about how there were no cops around. She couldn't find a cop.

She knows where they usually are. She couldn't find a cop. And no one would help her. Nobody called 911. I haven't heard anything from the man.

And this woman who was set on fire in the New York City subway. Nobody. in that subway car bothered to like take their coat off and try to Tamp out the flames. Nobody helped her. There's a picture of her standing.

It's all blurred out, but you can tell she's standing in the doorway of the subway and Like a cop just walks by and this guy's watching her burn, and somebody's videotaping it. No one's helping her. Is this the penny effect? Is this what we have wrought now in New York City and across the country? I think it is.

You know, people just really don't want to get involved because they recognize that.

So much of the criminal justice system is arrayed against. the forces of justice. And on a side of the defendants, who of course is always innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn't mean that the first move of a prosecutor should be to try to look at the police or the reporter of a crime. But unfortunately, that is where we are. And even if you argue, well, It's not as bad as all that and that's what not really what happens.

at the line level, these high profile cases where good Samaritans and specifically Daniel Penny. intervene and then get very publicly annihilated in the public sphere. Because Daniel Penny, despite beating that case, his life is never going to be the same. Right. people see how horrific the results are.

of quote unquote getting involved. And so they look and in fact, this is one of the arguments that Daniel Penny more or less made at trial, which is that it would have been much easier for him just to stare in his shoes, but he couldn't live with himself.

So luckily, we've had a marine on that train, but when you consider it, that the police these days. Fear getting involved. And this goes back to the twenty twenty Summer of Love. They just don't want to intervene. And as a result, recruitment and retention are way down.

So, when people say, well, there were no police available there, the Grand Central is policed by the MTA cops. There's a whole nother authority. that actually is in there. And in addition to the MYPD can also go and also has jurisdiction. But they're short cops.

Nobody wants to take the job. They're down thousands of cops here in New York. and the air of a city that is unpoliced, unobserved, And unregulated just continues to seep into our daily lives here because I live in New York. Yeah, God bless you. But I don't understand what the end goal is here by the left.

What is the end goal? Because it ultimately gets them thrown out of office. I don't understand what the purpose is and how it benefits them by having this type of lawlessness, by having a culture in which people just walk past and don't get involved, and it's a breakdown of society. Why? Why do they want that?

Short term, it's power. The people that are advocating this play upon low information voters' most based fears about a criminal justice system that is supposedly shot through with racism despite the fact that the mayor in New York City is black The police commissioner now is a woman, had been a black woman. The entire hierarchy of the police department is black. And the New York City Police Department has been majority and minority now for about a decade point five.

So It's a narrative that is really an anachronism. But that said, they won't give that up because it is a power grab, it's how they stay in office long term. As you elucidate, it can't work, but it again allows them to hold on to power and it gives them that little endorphin bump of being able to say that they're on the side of the angels, they're fighting the men. All these tired for the 1960s tropes. of being revolutionary.

You see it when any possibility of protest comes out in New York City. Tens of thousands of people, many of them paid, suddenly mobilized. It's a career path in New York to be a protester. I'm sure in many of the other cities as well. And so I would just say that, you know, for many of them, it's an identity, it's their social lives.

And I'm not saying that they'd be concerned with social issues.

Something that's completely invalid. But when you see it in this context, as you say, where the end point Is clearly anarchy, and ultimately, it's going to, the cycle is going to turn. As we've seen so many times, this was the 60s and the 70s, and that got us the broken windows of the 90s, where we had a real renaissance here, certainly in New York. For about twenty years, we're low on a dig ring. Um, you know, you you you really are choosing a pet downward.

But they kind of the people that foment it in New York particularly just don't care. And it you know, you talk about it's a minority, majority run police department, but the minorities are the ones who suffer the most in a lawless society 'cause it's their neighborhoods are the first ones to go. Always, always. You're exactly right. And we're seeing that now very much in Chicago.

Where the residents are coming out and not being very polite in how they are. Screaming nuts at the mayor there, Mayor Johnson. Who seems to be more oblivious than even Mayor de Blasio was here in New York for a long time. And they are recognizing that all of these policies that have been. thrown at them to make the politicians feel good more than anything else.

and to give false hope about how this was going to raise up these neighborhoods They're beginning to call BS on it, and rightly so. I can tell you that. As a cop, you go into Any area. And ninety nine percent of the people there are good people Even if they don't always love the police, they're not going to interfere with you, and most of them, most, you know, hard to put a percentage on it, but I would say at least 75% want more cops there. And I can tell you, you can go on it, you'll go on a a noise complaint job or something really sort of low level.

and the door closes and the apartment door next door opens And the old lady will put her head out and say they're dealing guns in that apartment over there. but you didn't hear it from me, and she'll close the door. Why does she do that? She doesn't want to get labeled as a snitch or whatever. She doesn't want to get hurt.

She doesn't want to get her family hurt by a gang. But He wants the gangsters who are dealing drugs in an adjacent apartment out of her building. Because she's worried about herself and her family. Every cop has that story, especially here in New York and the projects and apartment buildings around town. And it just goes to show that, again, they're being sold out And you know, when Donald Trump in the prior or pain.

stood in front of an African American civic group of some variety. I don't remember exactly which one it was, but he said, what do you have to lose I thought that was such a clarifying moment because it captured, you know, Trump had that ability to break through a lot of the noise and just speak very basically to people. And I think that's what many of them heard in that moment. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's true. And you're right. With the with Chicago, they're starting to stand up and just scream and yell, and they're wearing make America great again hats.

So maybe this is exactly what we need. These cities have to hit rock bottom and they have to get the government they voted for. And then they're like, wow This isn't so great. It sounds really good on paper, and I love chanting it. But now that I really have it, it's not that good.

Just want to quickly, I want to get into Luigi Miangioni, but before we go there, this Sebastian Zapata Khalil, the manicus, just setting that woman on fire in that subway train. He says he doesn't remember anything. And we know that he entered the country illegally. What is going to happen to him? Does he get deported?

Do we keep him here? What happens with him? No, he'll get convicted. He'll get convicted likely at the state level, despite our mayor talking about taking the case federal. The kicking the case federal makes absolutely no sense.

The uh penalties for for what he did. excuse me, are harsher at the state level. He started with murder one, and that's because he the use of arson in the murder.

So that's rare in New York. You don't get too many murder ones. Man Gion is also a murder one. You don't get that too often. Generally, it's for killing your cop.

So that carries life without parole, which is the highest. sanction that the New York State penal law allows And it's higher than the federal. Federal statute. The fact that the PERP in this case Uh, Sebastian said that he was too intox to remember anything. It's not going to bear on this, that's not a defense.

Nor is intoxication. unless it was not voluntary. In this case, he reportedly was drinking a ton of beer. He says it on a video. that was taken apparently before the incident.

And reportedly, he was a K two abuser, synthetic marijuana, which is to marijuana what an aircraft carrier is to a tugboat. It's not really marijuana, it's a synthetic that just operates in the same receptors in your brain as marijuana. That's why it got that misnomer. They'll be convicted because the evidence really apparently seems to be overwhelming. And that'll be it.

He'll go into jail likely for life, and we'll be stuck with his care and feeding forever. And it just demonstrates the the the rolling cascade of of failures in our system Yeah. To keep dangerous people away from others. You shouldn't have been on that subway. You shouldn't have been in the country.

Agree. Absolutely. That blood is on the Biden administration's hands as far as I'm concerned. Luigi Mangioni. Apparently, there's some questions about whether he was overcharged because he's being charged with terrorism and whether the case should be there should be a change of venue because him getting any kind of conviction in liberal New York because everybody loves him and he's surging popularity and the left just loves this guy, he may not get convicted and he may walk just based on the liberalism of the jury.

Those two things are a big deal. They are. Let's take them in turn. He was not overcharged, and I have been a vociferous critic of the way Alvin Bregg has conducted his prosecutorial career here in New York City. But that said, Magion is firmly within the parameters of the terrorism enhancement that got the Murder One charge.

because what he did, he did for an ideological purpose. The purpose was to influence the policy of the government and also to influence the opinion of the civilian population. That's the definition of terrorism under the New York State statute. And so because he did it for that reason, as opposed to, let's say, some personal grudge or for let's say robbery or something, that gives you terrorism. Similar, think of it in terms of almost like hate crime, if you did it out of a racial animus or something like that.

So Brad, charge this case correctly. I also think B I think B that the the jury will very well likely could convict him. Remember, this is the same jury poll That did get Daniel Penny off, as we mentioned earlier. And I think that this is one of those cases where The loudest And most radical elements of the left are making themselves heard. They're on X, they're on other social media.

It's a handful of people. going up to support Mangiona Decourts. And I really don't think that anybody, even on this wacky island of Manhattan, and I recognize this as also the island that indicted and convicted Donald Trump in an utterly specious. prosecution from Alvin Brent. But that said, I think this is the place to bring it.

This is where he did it. It's not going to get a change of venue. They're not going to let this case go. This federal case that was filed was all show. That was a flex.

By the Fed so they could get in on the perp walk and all kinds of other nonsense, because now they've said, okay, Bregg, you go forward with the case. The federal government never does that. isn't going to be a state case. They're going to go with the murder one. He's going to get convicted.

He's going to go away for life in the heller. Yeah, it's I, the outpouring of support for him, I saw there were wanted posters of CEOs of healthcare companies on some of the light posts in Manhattan. I thought, man, this is a dangerous road to go down. And I just think some of these cities are just getting crazier and crazier, and the same people are picking up and getting out. And it's out of control.

Paul Morrow, thank you so much. I appreciate your time. You have a wonderful, wonderful new year. Thank you. Thank you, Mary.

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On another sensitive issue, while I have you, Congresswoman, President Biden went on vacation in St. Croix today. He has no public events scheduled tomorrow. He has, what, just 25 days left in his presidency. Why do you think he is seemingly missing in action?

Well, you know, I certainly can't speak for the president's schedule. I don't set it. I think everyone's entitled to a little time over the holidays. Yeah. I'm Mary Walter in for Brian Killmead.

I'm with you on Monday as well. And I'd like to take your calls. If you want to jump in here, we're going to talk some news. 866-408-7669. Joe Biden came out today.

I was watching Fox The Early Show with Todd Pyro and Carly. And they were saying that Joe Biden. Oh, Carly was not in.

Someone else was doing anything. Anyway, they were saying that Joe Biden has now been on vacation for 40% of his presidency. And he has been MIA since he dropped out of the election. Like, he's done. He's like, you know what?

Screw you, people. I'm out of here. And he's gone. I don't know why we're paying him because we now know. That he hasn't been running the government, hasn't been making decisions his entire presidency.

His entire residency didn't cover for him, and there's some group of people who are making this the decisions for him. And he's staying for free at friends of his, but they just happen to be big donors. And they this is on VRBO where he's staying in St. Croix, and it lists for more than six grand For a week. A free stay.

So, this free stay is worth more than six grand. And it seems that Biden has a long history of accepting free stays. But he also has a long history of never including those vacations on his ethics disclosure forms, which is pretty rich considering the left is always going after The Supreme Court and especially Justice Thomas for hanging out with his friend Harlan Coban. Harlan Coban, is that a guy? Yeah.

And also hanging out with him and not reporting it. But these are donors.

So there's a difference, well, at least, is there a difference between hanging out with your buddies and hanging out your friend's house and accepting that or hanging out at the donors, accepting a gift from the donor? Is there a difference? These are not long-time friends. They are wealthy donors. There's no excuse to not disclose.

And They want to go after Clarence Thomas for this, but the hypocrisy, once again, is pretty rich. They've never paid. Apparently all of these high end vacations, they stayed in Nantucket at the compound of a billionaire, David Rubenstein, and I thought they were against billionaires and like now suddenly billionaire billionaires are all cool. Bidens are hanging around with them. They stayed there in November of 21.

They went back in 22, both times around Thanksgiving. And the White House and the Rub and Rubenstein hasn't said whether the Bidens pay for their stays, but he is assumed to be visiting without direct. Compensation. There's a lot to unpack here.

So I got a lot more news coming up in your calls. Hang on, Brian, kill me, Cho. Join me. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

We have a massive communication problem in this party that I've been talking about for years. We need to have people at the forefront of communicating on behalf of the Democratic Party that know how to speak plain English. And speak to people on their terms, not speak. And lecture to them, but speak with them and explain in very colloquial ways what Democrats have done. I think Joe Biden's had an extraordinary record in the last four years, but unfortunately, the White House did a very poor job, as did the campaign, in explaining what that record is.

And so people didn't understand it. And so, from that perspective, we need desperately to have messengers out there. That can speak to people in very specific terms about how their individual lives are going to be improved by democratic policies and how Donald Trump's policies will harm them individually.

So that was Julie Rodzinski on MSNBC, and what she's basically saying is we have to be more like Trump. Let me boil that down for you. We have to be more like Trump. We have to learn how to speak to people in very colloquial ways and not lecture them. We've been telling you to stop lecturing us for a really long time, but they can't help themselves because, in the end, they are elitists.

That's what it is. They are liberal elitists. They can't speak to us because they think that we are stupid, we're dumb, we're garbage, misogynists, racists, Islamophobes, basket of deplorables, you name it, fill in the blanks, clinging, bitterly clinging to our guns and religion, and on and on. They've been doing this for 10 years, demonizing us.

So the idea of speaking to us like their equals. doesn't work for Democrats. Joe Biden has had an extraordinary record in the last four years.

Well, first of all, we know it's not Joe's record. That's number one, Julie.

So just stop right there. Because the Wall Street Journal has blown the whistle on you guys. The party's over. Joe wasn't running the show. You could stop pretending.

If you were smart, you would just be outraged at this point and say, This is terrible. Who's running the country? You'd get on board, 'cause you're not reading the room. You're still you're still kind of clinging to it. And Joe Biden, we now found out, has been on vacation 40% of his presidency.

And I would say since he dropped out, he's been gone. I don't know why we've been paying for him. He is the poster child for, what is it, quietly quitting? Silently quitting. You know, these people, these young people do it and they just don't want to, they hate their job, so they just do the absolute bare minimum.

They clock in or they get someone to clock in for them, they clock in and then they leave, that kind of stuff. The quiet quitting, that is absolutely what Joe Biden has been doing since they, you know, stuck a knife in his career and said, you're out. You know, there was a little Eyes of March going on there in July, and Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and Kamala Harris said. Hey. We got something, we got it, let's make a deal.

You're out. And this is my own version. I wasn't there, but this is what I think happened. You're out, but on the upside, we'll let you pardon Hunter. You can pardon the Biden crime family.

You can pardon your brother, which is coming. You know that's coming. I don't know if he can pardon himself, but you know the brother pardon is coming. And the Biden crime family, you all can keep your ill-gotten gains of millions and millions of dollars that you got from selling off the United States, but you're out. And he didn't have much of a choice, and he took the deal.

Try to screw, and then you know, they wanted to have supposedly an open primary, and then he screwed him over and put Colin Harris in. But for this, I just think this is hilarious. It's the message. People don't know what our message is. And we got to get the messengers out there to tell people.

It's because people are ignorant. That's why they don't know what Biden's great policies are. People are ignorant. This just shows their level of eliteness That Julie Rezinski thinks that people have no idea what's going on. They know what's going on in their world, in their little part of the world.

And like we were talking about with Paul Morrow, that look at Chicago. People in the inner cities wearing MAGA hats and screaming at council meetings because they're becoming victims of crime due to the influx of people in the country illegally who are criminals. And now they are being victimized. They don't need you to make the message louder. They hear the message.

They're living the message and they don't like the message. But this is where the Democrats are really tone deaf, and I'm kind of cool with it. I think it's great, and I hope they stay tone deaf for a long time. I want to go to CNN. CNN to me, I'm telling you, is starting to.

They've started turning the ship around. They started it a while ago. They are definitely much more. Realistic than MSNBC? This is Edward Isaac De Ver, and he is a CNN senior reporter.

And they're talking about the Joe Biden presidency. They're all doing their little post-mortems now. But listen to what you heard what you heard from Julie Ryzinski on MSNBC. Listen to what this guy, Edward Isaac DeVer, says on CNN. I think it's a really difficult thing for Joe Biden to know that he came into the presidency as a rejection of Donald Trump.

And here he is being replaced by Donald Trump. I think back to an interview that I did with Joe Biden. He'd been president for about three weeks, starting from a book that I wrote. And part of the takeaway that I had from it was him trying to assert himself as Joe Biden, the guy who got elected president, not just Barack Obama's vice president, not just the guy who beat Donald Trump. But now that is part of who he is, and it may define who he is.

A couple of weeks before the election, I had a conversation with a senior person in the White House, and I said, if Harris loses, most of the way that Biden is going to be remembered, at least in the short term, is the guy who was just in between the Trump terms.

So yeah, you know, Joe Biden has an extraordinary record in the last four years, if you're listening to MSNBC. And then over on CNN they're going, Yeah, he's just going to be the guy that's going to be remembered as the guy who was just in between the Trump terms. Yeah. Very different messages. I'm a little upset that I think, as I said, that CNN is starting to figure it out.

They've got Scott Jennings over there, and he has definitely been schooling them. And I kind of wish he'd stop it because I don't want them to get it. I don't want Democrats to wake up because I want more MAGA. I want more years of the MAGA agenda. And if the Democrats wake up and figure it out, we're going to be in trouble because they're just going to figure out how to lie using MAGA talking points.

And that does not make me happy. Let's head to John and St. Augustine on W. W-O-K-V, John. Welcome.

You're on the Brian Kilmead Show. Hello. Go. Good morning, and happy new year. Happy New Year to you too.

Thank you so much for joining me. Go ahead. Thank you, thank you. Um you are right. And what's so sad is the media still doesn't get it.

The media ignored a shell of a president. Joe Biden, when he did nothing for the past four years and led our country down the wrong path, and now they can't help themselves, but still, it's in their DNA to still attack President Trump in kind of like a passive-aggressive way right now, okay? Not as aggressive, I agree with you. But it's so sad because there's so many great policies, again. For America.

that they just don't understand, they don't get, and they're still not on board fully right now. They're getting there, but they're not. Yeah, it's like when you go to a foreign country and you're trying to figure out why they do some of the stuff they do, like why did they drive on the wrong side of the road when they could be driving on the right side of the road like everybody else? And you try to figure that stuff out and you don't understand it. It's just a cultural anomaly.

And that's really what's happening here. I think there's a cultural difference inside America between the left and the right. And the left has never been interested in finding out what's really happening on the right. They've never been interested in it.

So they never venture out of their coastal areas where the elite live to actually find out what's happening. Sure, every now and then they'll get on a bus and they make a big tour. It's like they're going through the safari park at a theme park, right? To go look at the view of the animals from their bus to see if they can figure out what's going on. And because they don't live it, they don't get it.

And I honestly don't think they want to know it. Yes. And it's so unfortunate because he has great policies again, and we have great people that can come on board. Unity, they were some of them are past Democrats. Elon Musk, RFK Junior, it could be a sign of unity.

But again, they just don't grasp it that way and take that twist. Yeah, absolutely. It's a great point. Thank you so much. Mark, hang on.

I will get to you next. 866-40-87669. Or you can make a comment on X at Mary Walter Radio. More coming up. Don't go anywhere.

You're listening to the Brian Kilmead Show. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kilmead Show. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. I mean, I think he's what he's trying to do, is trying to corner Donald Trump and sort of box him in so he can do.

I think the Biden administration and the president is trying to prevent Donald Trump from doing as much damage as he possibly can. Do which he could do a lot at becoming president, but I think Joe Biden is trying to box him in on this. And I mean, speaking specifically to the commutations, I think it comes a lot from the president's Christianity and outlook on the world because I'll tell you, me personally, as a Christian, I'm opposed to the death penalty. I think Joe Biden is trying to box Donald Trump in as much as he can. That was Matthew Dowd on MSNBC.

And so, so much for me saying, well, that is MSNBC figure. CNN seems to be the much more. Less crazy, I don't want to say more same, but like less crazy of the two networks. They seem to every now and then stumble into some form of journalism. And Here's what cracks me up is they're like, oh, he's trying to box Donald Trump in.

He's not doing anything. The man is a turnip. He's a rudabaga. He's not trying to do anything. And I'm sorry, but when you, I'm not pretending.

I'm not going to engage in your fantasy anymore that Joe Biden is mentally sound. We know he's not. The cat's out of the bag. It's being, you know, revealed. People are saying it out loud now because the party's over.

It's the end of the party.

So now you can say that, you know, it was crappy one or it was watered down. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter anymore.

So he's not doing anything. This is Barack Obama and his crew who tried to hamstring Trump the first time around.

So they're doing it again. But what rings hollow to me here is, you know, I think as a Christian, the president's Christianity and his outward look on the world is why he commuted the sentences of child killers and mass murderers. Because he's a good Christian. He doesn't believe in the death penalty. And I'm thinking, then, why didn't he commute all of the death penalty sentences?

Why? Why did he leave three? That he didn't commute? Because that's kind of weird, right? Could it be that those three were high-profile?

One was the Tree of Life Synagogue shooter. One was the AME Church in South Carolina or North Carolina shooter Dylan Roof. And one was Zokar Sanaev, Dokar Zanaev, one of the two brothers from the Boston bombing, the Boston Marathon bombing. Could it be because those are high-profile cases and people might actually know what they're about? Whereas the other ones aren't high-profile.

You know, just kidnapping a girl, a 12-year-old girl and her mom, and murdering her mom in front of her, and then slashing her throat, raping her, and then slashing her throat and killing her. You know, people don't care about that. Nobody's going to notice. And so, what also rings just a tad hollow with me is Joe Biden's only on abortion up until birth.

So he's Christian. He values life, which is why he doesn't value the, which he doesn't, he's against the death penalty. But at the same time, he's not against the death penalty for everybody, which is a little weird.

So either you're in or you're out on that one, I think. I think, you know, you're your death penalty. Or. And if you Are for abortion up until birth? How are you?

For life. How is that your Christianity. Super confusing because it's hypocritical, because it doesn't make sense. That's why none of this makes sense. Why the heck he is pardoning or excuse me, commuting the sentences of Thirty-seven men on death row who did horrible things to people, who killed children.

One of them ordered a drug guy, drug leader, gang leader, whatever, and he ordered this arson, or he committed the arson. We don't know. And a family died, burned to death in this home in Philadelphia, a row home in Philly. It's disgusting.

So I call BS on this whole thing, and the left should really stop trying to justify the commutation of sentences for child killers and mass murderers. Just stop. Just stop. It's embarrassing, and you're clowning yourselves. Only Trump could get because.

Joe's for it, so Trump must be against it. Trump's for the death penalty. They will go the opposite of the r of the right just because it's the opposite. They don't think it's through. They don't care that it's hypocritical.

It makes no sense and it drives me absolutely crazy. Crazy. All right, very quickly, let's get to Mark from Connecticut talking about the subway burning and people just walking by and doing nothing. Yeah, it was it's absolutely crazy, and I think it's the Daniel Penny effect. Where?

You know, no one's going to help anybody because of what happened to Daniel Penny. Hey, Mark, I've got a couple of minutes here. Go. Good morning to all of the men and women listeners out there. I'm calling from Connecticut.

And I think that a lack of diminished education in the US is partly to blame. And a lot of these Um Opinion People like Joy Reed, Don Lemon have helped to ruin. Um Pedestrians' perspective on stuff like that or intervening. Um I would like for us maybe over the next week or next month to look at Cases like Where good Samaritans could have intervened or did, and were persecuted. Go back maybe five and ten years and look at examples like this because the Democrat Party, I believe, has constantly been.

Chipping away at. Um the police department and a law and order type of environment. I believe even like the Duke the Duke La Crosse case is a good example of persecuting good Samaritans because even in talk, even in thought and opinions, many of us spoke out against Or questioned the veracity of this woman's accusations. And you know, it was always um you know, a lot of feminists and others, um, women's groups were berating Any opposing thoughts or any constructive criticism of that case. And it's.

You know, and the big thing is, I would I would say stop calling individuals. victims. You know, that woman, she was immediately honorary. Honorarily labeled a victim, and that wasn't the case. She's a complainant.

she's a complainant until the case is adjudicated and it's and there's a conviction and it's proven that she was raped and that never became the case. Yeah. Yeah. And she's, she's now, since she's in jail for murdering her fiancé, boyfriend/slash fiancé, she's now come clean and said, you know, she wants to, she's sorry for ruining those boys' lives, which she did. But we tend to, it reminds me a lot of the Salem witch trials when it comes to certain things in this country.

And everybody starts screaming, you're guilty, you're a terrible, horrible person. Look what they did to Daniel Penny, right? They don't stop to think at all about what they're alleging. And so you wind up with someone like Daniel Penny having his life ruined. Mark, thank you.

It was a pleasure speaking with you. Have a wonderful new year. I wish you the best in the coming year. Thank you for joining me here on the Brian Kilmead show. Yeah, this is why.

And, you know, I'd like to sit there and I like to think, you know, well, first of all, I would not get on a subway in New York City. I used to ride the subway in New York City. I would not do it. I haven't been in the city in two years, if not more. Yeah, two years, 22 was the summer 22.

22 was the last time we were in the city. And I was mortified coming out of the subway, which I used to go into Penn Station, take the train into Penn Station, walk all over the city, take the subway if I had to. I would not do it now. There's no way because we're at Penn Station. Walking out of Penn Station, if you don't come up the main stairs, if you come up one of the side stairs to go to a different part of the city, to come out in a different section.

There's drug deals happening on the stairs, and you've got to walk around them and just pray that nobody comes after you. It's really, really frightening. I don't know what the end goal is, and I don't want to know. I'm Mary Walter, and you're listening to The Brian Kilmead Show. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show.

Brian. In Kill Mead. Thank you, Frank. I am indeed Mary Walter sitting in for Brian Kilmey and I'll be back with you on Monday. 866-408-7669 is my number.

Going to be taking your calls coming up. Right after we speak with this lovely lady, Shannon Bream, anchor of Fox News Sunday, Fox News chief legal correspondent and the author of The Love Stories of the Bible Speak, and you can follow her on X at Shannon Bream. Shannon, thank you for joining me this morning. It's great to talk to you. Mary, always great to be with you.

I have a lot of questions for you. I need your brain, so I hope it's all ready to go. I was up and running.

Well, you know, it's a it's a Friday after Christmas. I'll give you my bet.

Okay, well, well, you know, you might hopefully you had maybe like a little bourbon before we got on here, so you're all lubricated. That brain's ready to go. Not quite yet. Out of clock somewhere. It's true.

So, one of the things that Republicans want to do when they first get in because they don't have a lot of time, you know, really two years until the midterms, right?

So, there's not a lot of time for the GOP to really get things going. But Donald Trump really wants, and the Republicans really want, to overhaul our voting procedures. And the two things they want are voter ID and proof of citizenship requirements. But elections and those laws are set on a state level.

So, how can they have any kind of input on a federal level?

Well, listen, this is something Democrats try to do as well. They wanted a federal law that would give some overview, some guidelines that would be in addition to what states do. And you're right, the Constitution says states are the ones who set the time, manner and place of the way their elections take place. But I think the argument at the federal level has been, listen, if there's something that is unequal between the states, say you can do an equal protection clause argument, something of the fact that, hey, people in one state, they have more confidence that their votes are going to be counted, they have different protection than in a different state. I think that's the kind of argument they try to make at the federal level.

But you know, and I know, having covered this for years, that there is polling that shows people across all kinds of backgrounds and gender and everything else, the vast majority of Americans are in favor of ID when you go to vote. Right. Well, exactly. And that's the thing. It is so popular.

But yet, at a national level, the Democrats say things like it makes harder both, you know, the SAVE Act and the ACE Act, which were two acts that two proposals that they wanted to get through, the Confidence in Elections Act, the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, would do things like expect or institute voter ID and proof of citizenship, which you think, to your point, the American people want. It's really the Democrat politicians that are standing in the way of this. And I got to tell you, I think part of the reason for this is we saw it just now in the last election when states like California are still counting a month after the election. And what's really super interesting to me is it seems that every time, the longer they count, the more votes the Democrat candidate seem to get. And, you know, I think this availability of mail-in ballots, all that kind of needs to be addressed.

We flood the field with all these experts. Extra ballots. And it's kind of whoever picks up the most of them because you don't need ID, you don't need to prove that you're a citizen. It's the perfect way to commit some kind of fraud. And Democrats really don't seem to be all that concerned about fraud.

Makes my radar go up. Yeah, and the thing is that even if all of these different states and the way that they handle their ballots and the different kinds of ballots, even if it's done completely according to the law, There is an appearance to a lot of people. They have a lot of questions about Why things are done so differently. And it does, you know, some people will argue, erode confidence in the end result. Because you could have done everything exactly per protocol, but because your state is so different and such an outlier, and we had a number of states before this 2024 fall election tell us.

It's going to take us some time. It may take up to 13 to 15 days. I mean, when you hear those things in advance, it makes people nervous. But we have, you know, unless something changes, you know, our Constitution does give states to do the, you know, the right to do the things the way that they will. You know, you always think, all right, we've got 50 laboratories of democracy, but wouldn't you, if you're one of these states that struggles and counts for weeks and weeks and weeks, When you look to like a big state like Florida, which had major problems, did massive makeovers down there, and now they've got millions and millions of people, but before 11, 12 o'clock at night, and they've got two time zones, we know who won their elections down there in Florida.

So if there are processes that work better, why don't some of the states that have struggled so much look to those states and say, all right, what can we learn from you, so that our citizens are more confident that their votes are actually counting and counting fairly? Yeah, I'm pretty s much pretty sure they're not concerned about that. I just don't think that enters their brain.

Well, and the thing is, we hear from both sides, and you talked about the legislation, and we talked about there's some Democrats, and now there's going to be a Republican effort, maybe at the federal level. You know, what they say is that they are about election integrity. And when the two parties start fighting about what exactly that means, you know, that's where you find the differences because both sides will say we want every American to feel like their vote is protected, it matters, it counts. People who are not supposed to be voting, those votes are tossed, the system is working. And yet when you talk about the ways to solve those problems, the two sides really they do diverge on a number of things.

Joe Biden going away again, you know, heading off the last vacation on the tax paradigm, taking Air Force One to St. Croix. And he's done this several times, and this he's staying at the home of what they're calling friends, but they just happen to also be very wealthy donors to the Democrats and to his campaign. They're staying six nights at a three bedroom beachfront home. And it typically operates as a VRBO rental for six grand a week, which by the way, I have to tell you, for a week doesn't sound like it's that expensive based on what's included with this.

It's got its own island included with it.

So I'm like, I don't know, we could probably get a couple of us together and hit that place, and it would be really super affordable. But so they're staying, they stayed the same place last year over the New Year's holiday, and they didn't pay a dime. They're not paying anything this time. And he, but at the same time, the couple that owned this got tickets to the first state dinner. They were invited to the first state dinner of Joe Biden as president, and it was a lot of billionaires, which the Democrats hate.

So it's odd that they would be invited. Cultural icons, politicians, French President Emmanuel Macron. But this is not the first time. And Joe Biden has a long history of free stays. And he has been staying at donors' homes for years.

But the allegation is out there that he has never included these vacations on his disclosure forms. And this allegation is being made by the White House Budget Office's top lawyer under Donald Trump, Mark Pauletta. These are not long time friends, they are wealthy donors, so there's no excuse to not disclose. And then he talks about how the Left goes after Clarence Thomas, who hangs out with his friend Harlan Crow, who they've been friends forever, and they go after him But not Joe Biden. Is this just not a big deal that he's not disclosing this on ethics forums?

We'll see. You gotta think there are differences for people in the judicial branch versus the executive branch, but Mark makes a lot of good points. If you're going to constantly have these reports by ProPublica, by Democrats, Senate Democrats, a number of them released a report late on Friday, the night before Christmas, alleging all kinds of things about Justice Salito and Thomas and how they reported things. There's always been for judges this hospitality exemption. If you're staying with friends, I mean people that you genuinely have a relationship with, you don't have to quantify what it would cost you to stay at a friend's house, that kind of thing, or traveling with friends.

Now there have been some changes to the rules in recent years, and so that's been some updated amending of some reports and some updated reporting by folks like Justice Thomas, but others on the court as well. But Mark is constantly trying to shine this spotlight. He's a longtime ally of the Thomases and friend of their family as well. Saying, listen, if we're going to have rules for this game, then everybody has to play by the same rules. If you're staying with a wealthy donor, if you're staying with a wealthy friend, you know, are there different standards for essentially saying it's okay for Joe and Jill Biden to do one thing, but not okay for Clarence and Ginny Thomas to do another?

He's one of these bulldogs that digs in to all of these different reporting events and things that happen to say, listen, if you want to have rules for one set, they've got to apply to everyone. And he's one of the few people out there that's doing this and really digging into both sides.

Okay, alright, that's fair. But I do agree that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, because I just think people are tired of living with the hypocrisy and the two-tiered system of justice here. I think we're we're kind of had it right up to because it's starting to trickle down, you know, especially with the January 6thers. And people see the way that, you know, some grandma who walked into an open door and prayed for nine minutes inside the Capitol, thanked the police officers for being so nice and walked out, had her home raided, paraded in front of her neighbors and handcuffs to humiliate her, dragged her to Washington, D.C. And then after the trial, she winds up spending time in jail.

And then Hunter Biden gets pardoned.

So people are like, wait a minute, what?

So I don't know. I hope the pendulum's starting to swing the other way. Speaking of Hunter Biden, He's not done with his court cases. He is this guy, he is the poster boy for privilege in my mind. You know, if you ever invited him to a party, you'd want to throw him out after about half an hour.

He is set to go to trial in September of next year against Garrett Ziegler and a non-profit group called Marco Polo. Marco Polo has the laptop, right? They got the contents of the laptop. And they uh pu made it publicly accessible. There's this up e-book, but they also sell paper copies for fifty five dollars, and it contains the details of what was on the laptop.

Uh and uh He is suing them. He is accusing them of illegally hacking into and tampering with his laptop data, and a trial is set to decide if he is entitled to damages. If you leave the laptop at a repair shop, which clearly states that anything left here more than a year is considered abandoned, how are they in the wrong? Yeah, that's a great question. And this trial could be very interesting because we'll get those timelines and we'll get to dig into all of those things and the custody and chain of custody because we all remember that we were told that this is classic hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign or that things were planted on the laptop or that it wasn't his laptop or that people took information illegally from the laptop.

So, I mean, as much as I think the Biden family is going to want this to be over, well, listen, when this thing rolls around in September of next year, if it's not been settled or taken care of or dismissed or something, I think it's going to be fascinating. And it's interesting to me that Hunter wants to do this because you know when you go to trial, there's discovery. And that means that a lot of things will get opened up and you've got to dig around in there. And I'm not sure Hunter is going to want all of that information out there. I mean, I can understand why he would be fighting back because this information that's been out there, the photos and the details and things that were confirmed by people outside of this laptop who were on On the receiving end, or parties to these emails, a lot of this stuff has been confirmed by multiple people over the last couple of years.

But when you get into discovery, that means everybody's going to get to dig around in exactly what was going on in all this information.

So I wonder if this actually gets to trial in September of next year, or there's something or at some point in which Hunter and his team say, mmm, there may be more downsides to this than upsides. Yeah, there's a couple more. He's suing the whistleblowers, the IRS whistleblowers, because how dare you? Because he's so entitled. He's just.

So entitled. But think about, Mary, and you know this. I mean, and your listeners will know, had those two IRS whistleblowers not come forward, how different would all of this be? Maybe that plea deal held, although Judge Marieka had serious doubts and questions about it. But there are so many things that happened because those whistleblowers came forward.

And yeah, I could see why Hunter Biden would have a legal beef with them because they turned things around in a way that exposed all kinds of things we never would have found out otherwise. Yeah, well, you know, that doesn't mean you sue them in my book. Last question. A boy in Georgia in October went for a walk. His mother, long story short, they live in the mountains.

They live in Appalachia and Blue Ridge, Georgia. And he's homeschooled. And so he was in the house. His grandfather's downstairs. And she called for him.

And he didn't answer. She thought he was in his room looking for a belt. And so she left. And long story short, she goes to the doctor with her son. She gets a call from the sheriff.

Her son's been picked up for walking next to the side of the road. They said it was a dangerous road 'cause the speed limit goes up to thirty-five in some parts and there's no sidewalk. But he was walking on a dirt path next to the road. And uh they came back and arrested her. And now she is being charged on misdemeanor reckless conduct under a Georgia law that functions as a catch-all for a wide variety of criminal behavior, but it's rarely used in cases on child safety.

And she's like, My kids go out all the time. You know, it wasn't dangerous. This is the way I allow my kid to function.

So, very quickly, because I have another question I want to ask you: is this letting your 10-year-old kid go out for a walk now on his own is now criminal conduct? They're saying she didn't know where her son was, and that's neglect. Yeah. This is so interesting. I don't know all the details of this, but I have heard some things about this case and the fact that her father lives in the home, so he's there almost all the time.

So the kids almost always have an adult in the home, but they have a lot of freedom too. And I wonder just how rural this area was because, you know, we all grew up, of course, things were different 40, 50 years ago when I was a kid. But there was a lot more free range kind of kid stuff happening that you were out and about and walking. And I wonder how rural this community is. Because if it is, I would imagine she's not the only parent that has kids that walk between homes and that go do their thing.

And listen, every parent has to make a good decision about the abilities and the skills of their own child and what they trust them with. But I think there's a lot more to this case than, at least I know at first blush, but I know that there was always.

Some type of adult supervision. And I'll be very interested to see what a, if this goes to a Georgia jury, what they make of it. Yeah, it's going to be very interesting, especially where that Georgia jury is as well. If it's in Atlanta, she's done. You kind of touched on what I want to ask you.

I want to know something that you did when you were a kid that is illegal today. Mm. Illegal. I don't know if that's illegal, but I mean, we certainly went around unencumbered and unrestricted for long periods of time. I can remember there was a street that was a really busy street a few away from my neighborhood that my parents had always told me, like, you can't cross that because you're young and we worry about you crossing over into, you know, this busy neighborhood and this busy street.

And I remember that one of my girlfriends who was on my street, we decided to do it anyway. And as we were crossing over, there's a gas station there and a friend of my mom's was putting gas in her car. And she's like, hey, Shannon, how are you doing? I knew by the time I got home, my mom would know about that. And it was just kind of a word of mouth thing.

And my mom said, yeah, so remember that intersection you're not supposed to cross? Mrs.

So-and-so saw you there, didn't she, at the gas station?

So, I mean, I had a ton of freedom. We got to run, but for the record, I told the producers and the engineer, I said, there's no way Shannon did anything that's illegal today. There's just no way. Maybe bad, maybe she got in trouble at home. And I was right.

Shannon, we got to run. Thank you so much for joining. Have a blessed new year. Thank you. I really appreciate it.

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The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. 866-408-7669 is my number. You can reach out to me on X at Mary Walter Radio. All right, stuff you did.

Back as when you were a kid, the kids can't do today or is illegal. Things like ride in the back of a pickup truck. Yeah. Down a highway or a bumpy back road. You did that today, and your driver would lose their license.

That's child endangerment today. Things like no seatbelts. I've got a couple when I was growing up that I look back and I love to tell my nieces and nephews about it. And I just laugh because they're like, No, wait, you weren't allowed to do that. I'm like, No, really, we were.

We absolutely were. And it was normal. And nobody said a word about it. And the other thing: were you ever punished by like somebody else's mom? 'Cause that happened a lot too when we were kids.

Like, if you were at someone's house and you were playing and you did something wrong, it was known that that other mother could discipline you for doing it. And then when you got home, you were gonna get it again. It's all coming up. I'll talk to you on the Brian Kilmead show. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. And I'm Mary Walter and for Brian Kinley, just having some fun here as we go into our weekend and talking about a kid in Georgia who went for a walk. 10 years old went for a walk, and a neighbor or somebody driving by saw him and thought it was a dangerous road. And the prosecutor agreed, and because it's 25 to 35 miles an hour on this road, and there's no sidewalk, even though the kid was walking on a dirt path next to the road. And his mom had no problem with it.

Well, she didn't know he had gone out. She didn't know he had done that. And so, because she didn't know where her kid was, they come back later and she gets arrested, and she could be going to jail because of this. And I just thought, as I was reading this, I'm like, oh my gosh, when I was a kid, we would walk into town, the village. It was literally called a village.

It was a little village. And it was a couple miles. And it would take a whole Saturday if you went all the way in and then came back. And we would go in to like get ice cream or buy a soda or something. And that was it.

And it was a whole day. But my mom would make me go with someone else, my brothers, when they were old enough, too. And there was no sidewalks. There was a huge part of it that it was a windy mountain road, and there were no sidewalks. And you were smart enough to walk on the the grass next to it or on the little path that was eventually beaten down there.

And nobody said anything about it.

So I thought, man, there's a lot of things that we could do that kids today cannot do just because it's so society frowns upon it, or it's literally illegal. For instance When I was a child, at like five, four, five years old, my grandfather was from Germany, and he would take me around the corner from his bakery. There was a little bar in Jersey City, and we'd go in there in the afternoon. And I got to pull up a chair, and they had like a little booster seat that they put in a chair for me at the bar. And he'd give me a nickel, and I could go over and get nuts out of the vending machine.

Like the gumball machine had nuts in it for like a nickel. And I'd have my little nuts on a napkin at the bar, and they would give me like a shot glass full of beer. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine today if someone did that? But that was like the thing I did with my grandfather, because to the Germans, giving a kid a little shot glass full of beer, no big deal.

My parents didn't care. And that was the thing. And to this day, I vividly remember it. But could you even imagine? A lot of people hit me up on exit Mary Walter Radio saying, I used to go to the corner store for my neighbor for two packs of pall mel gold cigarettes and a Coke.

I got to keep the change and I was about nine. Yeah. There's a lot, yeah. And I love when younger people are because, you know, we're all old now. And with like my nieces and nephews, like, you weren't allowed to do that.

My brother's like, no, really, we did. Totally legal when we were kids, and nobody cared that we did it. Let's go to Panama City Beach, Florida. Brian, welcome. You're on the Brian Kilmead show.

Hi, happy Friday. Happy Friday. How are you doing today? I'm doing great.

So, what did you do that your kids could never do today? A lot of stuff. Yeah. And most of it was illegal by today's standards. But I remember.

My grandma and grandpa used to babysit me. And my grandpa, he was a World War Two vet. He was an orphan. We're raised in the woods.

So he would give me a gun and say, You want to go out there and hunt squirrel? Go hunt squirrel. I'd go out there with my rifle at thirteen. And five bullets. And he'd sat on the back porch and listened for five shots.

And if I didn't come back with five squirrels, that deducted one bullet that I would get the next time. And the next time I got down to one bullet. And um Would be out there. My mother would come pick me up and she'd have to honk the horn to get me out of them woods because I was nearly 40 acres back by myself in the woods. And to this day, Uh I go to the woods.

My peace. I'll go out there by myself in the woods. I'll take a tent and go out there. I don't care what the weather looks like. And I just want to say that the answer for all this stuff that's going on is the answer that people don't want to hear.

Whatever you ground your children in is what they're going to grasp to later.

So if you've allowed your children to just find their own way, they're going to be confused and they're going to grasp at things that you might not want them to later.

So just remember that whatever you ground them in today is what they're going to do later. And for me, my grandma and grandpa, Uh they grew up hard. And they allowed me to grow up a little hard. And I'm so grateful for that today and that I have those memories. And then also still have that that I can.

I found out that when you're alone in the woods and you're thirteen and there's bobcats and bear and coyotes, you learn things from the woods. That you would never learn sitting in front of a TV or thank God I didn't have a cell phone. Exactly. Brian, thank you for joining me. That's the other part of it: there were no cell phones.

So when we were wandering around, and we had, there were like 500 acres of woods behind my house when I was a kid, and we didn't own it, but they were back there. And all the kids, that was our playground. And my parents never knew where we were. There was a pond back there, and my mother would send me and my brothers off. And I'm the oldest, so I was responsible for them.

And I'm a kid. And we had our skates, and we would go back, and we knew how to work our way through the woods to get to the pond. And my mother just trusted that the quote-unquote big kids who were like 16, 15, 16-year-olds, would test the ice. They built a fire, and my mom would send me off with like a bag of marshmallows to contribute. And we would roast marshmallows, and it was just kids.

There were no adult supervision whatsoever. And the big kids would go out on the ice to make sure it was safe. And we'd ice skate there, just the kids, you know, all ages. We'd have a fire, and then we put out the fire. We knew what to do.

You know, you got to stir the ashes and putting the snow on it and everything. And to make sure that we didn't burn down the woods, we never burned down the woods. Nobody ever fell through the ice. And we knew when it was starting to get dark, it was time to go home. And we all knew how to get home through the woods, even in the dark.

And we didn't have cell phones. And my parents had no clue we th well, they kinda knew where we were because we were going into the woods to go ice skating.

Nowadays, could you even imagine? A Virginia gentleman says, I was allowed to ride a bike without wearing a helmet. Bruce, I used to shoot my slingshot in the woods.

Now, thanks to New Jersey politicians, that's a felony offense. A lot of people saying seat belts, you can't use what's not in the car. A lot of people buying cigarettes for grandparents and parents. Yeah. Yeah.

I used to be allowed to drive and talk on my cell.

Well, not for long. They kind of got rid of that right away. Let's stay in Florida and say hello to Linda. You're on the Brian Killmead Show. Hi, Linda.

Howdy. My memory is from the eighth grade science class. It was a special class, laboratory science. And for some reason, the teacher didn't get hired back, but we had a blast. Yeah.

Everything was safe. We were allowed to dispense our own sulfuric acid. I know how to do that safely. We bent our own, we learned how to bend glass. We're playing with Bunce burners.

Um Chose as my individual area a unit on acoustics, and one of the exercises in that is that you would be exploring. Echoes.

So, you did that by taking your starter pistol and going outside, like round corners and various places, and shooting it off, and then taking notes on the echoes.

So, this is. Junior high, I'm wandering around campus shooting off a starter pistol, taking good scientific notes. Uh but the best uh the the best part, which is I was jealous that I wasn't on that team. It was uh a someone in the special chemistry unit and they got to uh Uh set off an incendiary bomb in the middle of the lab. And it was cool.

It was in a we all watched, it was in a little bowl, and the flame shot up about three feet following the bowl. And then it burned out. It was perfectly safe. And when I got to high school chemistry, I was very disappointed to learn that That was not normal. We were not allowed anywhere near the sulfuric acid.

The teacher, she's the one who dispensed it all, but I knew how to do it. That's so funny when you talk about the things that they let us do in science class. You're right. I guess they just trusted us more. I think they just trusted us more than it was very trusting.

Yeah, there was a lot of trust.

Now they just tell you you're an idiot. It all turns. But that was our parents' job. Our teachers kind of trusted us, and our parents always were telling us we were idiots.

So it was a good mix. It was a good mix. Linda, thank you for sharing that. I appreciate that. Yeah, I had a chemistry set as a kid that came with chemicals that you bought at the toy store, and it came with chemicals in it that I'm sure I could have blown something up.

And I also had a wood burning kit that had a wood burner. And you were supposed to get scrap pieces of wood and you can make stuff with it. My entire generation grew up with third-degree burns on everything because every toy that we had, you could make like the oven. We had the Easy Bake Oven, which I really wasn't into. I was for a little while, but it cooked pretty well.

But I got tired of that. But we had the Thing Maker. Do you remember The Thing Maker? And you had this piece of metal that had an indentation for the boys, had the creepy crawlers, and the girls had like flowers and stuff. And you put this plastic goop in there and you put it in and it would raise it.

It would cook it to the fire, to the temperature of like the surface of the sun. And then you had this little tool to take it out carefully, and then you had to put it in water. Every single kid had burns on their hands from that toy. We all did. We all had burns on our hands from that toy because you drop it or something, you go to grab it.

All of us were, but you could never let kids play with it, have that stuff anymore because they could disfigure themselves for lives. But none of us, nobody I ever know, disfigured themselves for life. We just all had burns, and you learn not to do it again. 866-408-7669 is my number. Or on X at Mary Walter Radio, things that you could do that your kids could never do now because they're unsafe or illegal.

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I'm with you on Monday as well. 866-4087669 is my number. We're just talking about things that we could do that our kids could never do because they're either unsafe. Or illegal, and it's funny. Eric here said to me when we went to the break, he's like, My had so many burns on my fingers from those creepy crawlers because you couldn't wait as a kid and you try to pick it up by your hand, you forget to use the tool, or you'd want to take it out of the water, and you put a couple of those in that little pan of water that they gave you where you put it in to cool it off.

That water got pretty warm pretty quickly.

So, yeah, our entire generation had third-degree burns at any given point on their body, and it was from toys. It was from toys. Alex said, I have my first paper root at 12 to 13 years old. Not sure if it's illegal now, but it is now an adult job that's so sad. Blaze says, Dad and I would go into the woods and find a nice-looking tree for Christmas and cut it down on Crown land.

So I'm assuming that he's British, she's British. Can't do that anymore.

Now, if you want a real tree but don't have, but don't own land, you have to go to a cellar or cut a cultivated tree from a lot. Nice memory. Yeah, well, you know, I don't think anywhere it's legal to just cut down someone else's tree. I don't think you can do it. You can't go into a national park and just cut down a tree.

I don't think that that's legal anywhere, even back in the day. And Jill says, all five of us kids would regularly get tossed around in the back of the bed of my dad's truck with a cover on our way to Wonderland in Ocean City, New Jersey. It was a warm-up for the real thrill rides. We used to ride in the back when our friends could get like, we're driving. All the guys had pickup trucks.

We would ride in the back of the pickup truck on a highway in New Jersey with us bouncing around in the back of that thing as teenagers, and nobody even looked at us twice. Wildly unsafe. No seat belts, no seats. You just sat back there and you held your stuff down whenever you had, so it wouldn't go flying out of the back of the pickup. And then down the road we went.

And usually it was local roads, but yeah, I can remember being on 287 South and driving down 287 in the back of a pickup truck. And it was perfectly normal. Let's go to Monica in Oregon. Monica, you're on the Brian Kilmead show. Hi.

Hi, how are you? I'm doing just great.

So, go ahead. What did you do that your kids could would never be able to do today? Oh well. Lordy, and well, I've done plenty and I've got highlights, um, to shoot. I also got to ride in the back of pickup trucks, you know, and load me and my friends up and go down the dirt road or the highway, whichever.

And yeah, it's no big deal. Also, oh Lord, when I was little, and I remember this quite well, my parents took me to Disneyland when I was three. They had a 1970-something Dodge van. I was just in the back in a playpen. No car seat, no nothing.

Yep. And also, we didn't have car seats, and I don't think people understand. We did not have car seats. There was no such thing as a car seat.

So your mom held the baby on her lap. Although I will say we did have something, and it had like it was metal and cloth, and it was, I guess, the precursor to the car seat. I don't know. And I think like the youngest in the family got that. You know, maybe the middle got that little thing.

It was kind of like a car seat, but it was dicey at best. I'd also sit on my mom's lap if I was needy while they were driving. And then, let's see, oh, this other big one. One time, My parents got together with some of their families and we went swimming. They just put me the family had a car with a hatchback trunk in it.

They just stuck me in the hatchback with a glass bottle of Pepsi. And I was allowed to drink beer when I was three. The parents would have some beer and then they'd give me the bottles to finish it. There's a there's a Uh uh mill old millimeter film of Yeah. this this little type, this little toddler, running around with With the with a um with a brown, I believe, Milwaukee's beer bottle in my hands.

I'm running around with beer in both hands. Monica, that's hilarious, you know, and and thank you. I don't mean to cut you off, but we gotta run. Uh, thank you so much. That's that's so funny because, yeah, like my grandfather used to take me to the bar around the corner and they'd give me a little shot glass of beer when I was a little kid and a nickel for the the peanuts in the machine.

wasn't considered bad, I guess. I I guess you know, what and My grandfather's German, so that was normal in his culture. In Virginia, Mike, you got the last word here on the Brian Kilmead show. Hi, Mike. Hey there.

Hey, um, yeah. growing up, I'm fifty three and growing up in high school during hunting season, it was very common to see kids with their pickup trucks having gun racks in the back of their window and the guns in them, so they can go hunting straight after school. Nobody ever said anything. And I got a friend who he grew up in Brookmeal, not too far from Lynchburg. He's eight years older than me.

He said when it was hunting season there, he said you had to take your gun and get on the school bus and give it to the bus driver and then he'd give it back to you when you got off the bus. And then when you go inside the school, you'd have to give your gun to the office. You'd have to take it to the office. And then they'd give it back to you. And then after school, you know, you just go hunting.

Wow. Yeah, I remember the senior parking lot would have the the pickup trucks with with the gun in in the rack in the back during deer season as well. And it was no big deal. And not one of those guns ever got out got out of that rack, got out of that car and shot anybody. It's weird.

So easily accessible and it never happened. Right. I've never heard of you before, don't know you. But you do a great job. I think you ought to have your own time slot on this radio station here.

Oh, well, thank you so much. I'm back on Monday. I'm in for Brian on Monday as well. Have a wonderful weekend. Thank you so much for joining me.

Larry, you don't have time to get to you, but he said when uh he's in Florida, when he was twelve, you could still buy a stick of dynamite and use it. Steering the car on your father's lap. We all did that. There are just so many. Cutting through neighborhood yards when playing, you know, just running around and not having to worry about anything.

And someone said, I got my butt beat every time I messed up as a kid or mouthed off to my parents. Does that count? Yeah, that's something that parents don't do anymore now. Sledding on the golf course, you know, just things that you can do, but with liability, you can't even sled on the golf course anymore. It's really sad.

Listen, everybody, have a wonderful weekend, Eric, Pete. Thank you so much. You guys are the best. Have a wonderful weekend, and I will be back here with you on Monday. I'm Mary Walter.

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