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A mother's love can be a powerful force, but it's not always easy to navigate the complexities of family relationships, especially when it comes to grief and loss. For women who have lost their mothers at a young age, the pain can be overwhelming, but finding community and support can be a game-changer. Meanwhile, the future of voting in America hangs in the balance as states rush to redraw congressional maps in the wake of a Supreme Court decision, raising concerns about racial discrimination and representation.

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I'm Jane Pauley, and this is Sunday morning. Today is, of course, Mother's Day, and we'll be marking the occasion with stories throughout the morning. But to begin, an issue taking center stage this past week. that could have historic implications for the future of our country. With midterm elections fast approaching, there's growing concern about voting turmoil in the lead-up to November 3rd.

The reason. Following last week's Supreme Court decision, states are rushing to redraw congressional maps before Election Day. This morning Robert Costa examines this last-minute redistricting frenzy and assesses its potential impact. The 1965 Voting Rights Act was a turning point in American history. But with the Supreme Court upending how race can be used to draw voting districts, The U.S.

is at another turning point today. Anyone who is a party to what is unfolding at the court now is wise to be humbled because they won't always control the narrative. But history writers will. Ahead on Sunday morning, a showdown over the future of voting in America. From Saturday Night Live to Only Murders in the Building, Martin Short has entertained us for more than five decades.

The ups and downs of his life and career are the subject of a new documentary. which he'll talk about with our Tracy Smith. Mom died and dad's health went fast. And I just was overwhelmed with, I can't, I can't do it. I can't do it.

Martin Short has lived through things that might crush anyone else, all while keeping his sense of humor. You make a joke about how, oh, yeah, when we were kids, we had the funeral home on speed dial. Yes, that's true. Pee-popping.

Well, you know, it's the Irish. You have to find humor in the dark. Really? Do you not see this count? The irrepressible Martin Short later on Sunday morning.

After ninety-nine years as a defining voice in American broadcast journalism, CBS Radio is signing off at the end of this month. Morocco will look back at its storied history. The Columbia Broadcasting System now presents. CBS Radio was the home of broadcasting legends like Edward R. Murrow, this is London, and Dan Rather.

How should CBS News Radio be remembered? It for many, many years was a part And I would argue not a small part of what held the country together. A celebration of CBS News Radio. coming up on Sunday morning. Faith Saley this morning introduces us to a global community offering support to women who lost their mothers far too soon.

Lee Cowan looks back at the remarkable life of media titan and Renaissance man Ted Turner. Jonathan Viglioti revisits last year's devastating fires in Los Angeles. and reports on how hard-hit communities are rebuilding. plus a Mother's Day story from Steve Hartman. A visit with Josh Saftel and his mom Pat.

and more on this Sunday morning for Mother's Day, twenty twenty six. We'll be right back. Uh The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was landmark legislation. that aim to end racial discrimination in voting. But as our Robert Costa tells us, the power of that law has been challenged in recent days.

causing turmoil just ahead of this fall's midterm elections. And every family across this great entire searching land. will live stronger in liberty will live more splendid in expectation and will be prouder to be American. because of the act that you have passed. that I will sign today.

Okay. Nearly 61 years ago, President Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act, a defining moment for the civil rights movement and a turning point for the nation. Slavery is abolished in 1865. In 1870, the Fifteenth Amendment is passed intending to guarantee black men the right to vote. 1920, the 19th Amendment is intended to guarantee all women the right to vote.

And still, Black Americans. Are kept from the polls in too many places by law, by intimidation, by violence.

So one thing we can say about 1965 is that people have been waiting a very long time. Waiting and struggling to end racial discrimination in voting, says Martha Jones, a history professor at Johns Hopkins University. Lives were lost, lives were threatened, communities were under siege. And Americans black and white. Put themselves in harm's way.

In order to finally set fire to the feet of Lyndon Johnson, set fire to the feet of Congress, and finally. The result is a Voting Rights Act. but to think of the Voting Rights Act as an act of Congress. right, or an act of Johnson's pen is to in essence Erase the blood from the page. And there is a lot of blood in that story.

That story continues. Late last month, the Supreme Court ruled it was illegal for lawmakers in Louisiana to create a new majority black congressional district. The 6-3 decision, split along ideological lines, has enormous implications for who will wield power. And it will make it far more difficult for districts drawn on racial lines to survive. Let's be clear.

Once the Supreme Court rules, it's a final judgment of the highest court of the land. This past week, Congressman Cleo Fields of Louisiana, a Democrat whose district will be affected, sounded the alarm. The real issue is rather not a person Who looks like me? will have the opportunity. to serve in Congress.

And that's what that fight has always been about. The Supreme Court's decision was the culmination of years of rulings made by the conservative majority under Chief Justice John Roberts, saying race conscious policies in education, the workplace, and in voting are unconstitutional. From a conservative perspective, what does this decision mean? Not only in terms of the law. but for American democracy.

I think this is one of a series of, frankly, good decisions by the court. that is saying um Racial discrimination is wrong. But many black Americans I've spoken to in the South They say they don't see how this has played out is racial discrimination, but an ability to have representation. Yeah, well I I think they're taking the wrong view of that. Hans von Spikowski is a veteran conservative lawyer appointed to the Federal Election Commission by President George W.

Bush. Von Spokovsky's views are aligned with the recent majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito, which says that using race to draw election maps is unnecessary and unconstitutional, but that using politics to do so is just fine. That's part of what the Supreme Court has called the hurley-burley of politics. What is the hurley-burley of politics? The hurly-burley of politics is that Uh you We have basically an open market where people compete with what their ideas.

should be. We're ever going to get gerrymandering, partisan gerrymandering, entirely out. That's just not going to happen. We've had it since Elbridge Jerry, the governor in Massachusetts, did it in the early 1800s. That's where the name for it comes from.

And in the wake of the ruling, many Republican-controlled states are rushing to change their maps this year and give the GOP, which holds a narrow majority in the U.S. House, a better shot at keeping it in November. This past Thursday, amid outrage and protests, Tennessee's Republican governor signed a new map into law. That critics fear will dilute the voting power of the state's black citizens. What happens if a consequence of this decision?

is fewer black members of Congress.

Well, if they want to get someone elected, look, if they affiliate with the Republican Party. Black candidates will get elected. We've seen that.

So they have to become a Republican in some of these red states to have a chance of winning? The point of our Constitution and the Voting Rights Act is that everyone is guaranteed an equal opportunity to vote. They are not guaranteed success. In the candidates that they think should be elected. In terms of the arc of the Roberts Court, where does this decision fit?

Well um I believe that this decision Represents the complete collapse of the Roberts Court into. Partisan political activity. Congressman Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, is the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee. There's no other way for me to understand what just happened other than they too are trying to bail out Donald Trump. from all of his policy catastrophes of this term by making it possible for him to win districts.

They would deny that, surely, because they've been rolling back the Voting Rights Act. for years. Yeah. Um in fact If you understand what they've done, they've basically said it's unconstitutional to deliberately create a majority African American, a majority Hispanic district, although you can create all the majority white districts you want. That's just considered the norm.

You are both a constitutional law professor and a House Democrat. When you evaluate this ruling, do you just see the Supreme Court Acting in a conservative way? No, it's got nothing to do with conservatism. It's about Partisan determination to give Donald Trump and the GOP a majority the best they can. I believe that's the court's intent.

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind that what gives you that belief and evidence of it. Because there's no other way of explaining these decisions that are not rooted in the text of the Constitution, much less the Voting Rights Act. They totally reverse the plain meaning of the Voting Rights Act. And they are rushing these things to get done before the elections.

As the Supreme Court's decision roils this year's elections. Professor Martha Jones says, it is the latest chapter. in America's ongoing reckoning with race. and the Constitution. As a historian, my counsel to judges is that history will be the judge.

That history will be the judge. That part of what we're doing in this moment is making a record. And that's part of what the Supreme Court does for us, is make a record of what has happened here. Only history will tell us in some sense what it meant. What its long-term consequences were for black Americans, yes, but for American democracy, I think.

Anyone who is a party to what is unfolding at the court now is wise to be humbled. Um because they won't always control the narrative. Um but um history writers will. With the death of media titan Ted Turner Wednesday at age 87. Lee Cowan offers us this remembrance.

The last time we saw Ted Turner was eight years ago when he invited our Ted Coppel out to his Flying D ranch in southwest Montana. What do you think? Looks pretty good. Turner once owned more square miles than almost any other single individual. Two million acres.

I'm not buying any more land, I've got enough. Thank you. It was during that visit when Turner revealed he was struggling with a progressive brain disorder. called Lewy body dementia. But I also got um But I can't remember the name of it.

Tell me what the... It's dementia. I can't remember what my... what my disease is. Arch.

And round. He was about to turn 80 at the time and was doing everything he could to stay healthy. 13. But there were still glimpses he was fading. What did we we were 15 and 3 8 yesterday?

By all accounts, Turner was an American original, a hard-drinking, cigar-smoking adventurer. He's just convinced he can do almost anything he sets out to do. And so far, he's been right. Whether bringing the Americas Cup back to the U.S., Saving the American Bison. Getting the Atlanta Braves to a World Series.

Oh, this is CNN. Changing the way we all consumed news. We intend to cover all the news all the time. Ted Turner was a risk taker with an outsized belief that he was put here to do good, to create change. He stunned the world when he pledged $1 billion to the United Nations to support causes like children's health, women's health, and human rights.

They'd rather be involved in crime and just making some wine and having a great time. His brash nature could rub people the wrong way at times, but. was also pretty attractive to others, not the least of whom is Jane Fonda. They were married for a decade. After his passing, she called him a handsome, deeply romantic, swashbuckling pirate.

I've never been the same, she wrote. and neither was he. Have you ever quite got over her? No. Do you think you ever will?

When you love somebody, And you really love them. You never stop loving them. There really was no figuring him out, although environmental journalist Todd Wilkinson, who spent years with him writing Last Stand, a book about Turner's conservation efforts, did get to know him better than most. He remembers one day when he says, Turner turned the tables. and started asking him questions.

He asked me if I believed in God, and I said, I believe in a higher power. And he said, you know, I do too. But I believe that we can create heaven on earth. If he didn't create his heaven on earth, Well, he certainly preserved it. He opened up huge swaths of his private lands to the public in his later years.

We don't really own anything, he once said. We just borrow it. For a while. This is probably going to be his greatest legacy. Absolutely.

I think nothing would make him prouder than for him to know that his. initiatives to protect nature are going to persevere. not only through the generations of his family, but far beyond that. I'm standing here just on the steps. of St.

Martin's in the fields. A searchlight just burst into action. Off in the distance. One single beam sweeping the sky above me now. For nearly a century, CBS Radio has been a trusted global voice.

keeping track of every twist and turn in the story of our world. But now, as Mo Raka tells us, The era of CBS radio. is drawing to a close. Before YouTube How the hell could we not start today with what the hell is happening with this virus outbreak and podcasts? I'm listening before all those breaking news banners Before even the nightly television newscasts.

This is the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite. Millions of people found out what was happening. From CBS News Radio. CBS News brief: President Trump's threatening to resume bombing Iran harder than ever if it doesn't agree to reopen a critical CBS News. Former President Nixon was subpoenaed today to testify.

Bombs and the shelves burst together on the target. There were sheets of flame. But later this month, after 99 years, CBS radio is going silent. CBS executives have cited the changes in how people are getting their news, increasingly from social media, and the challenging economic realities. I'm Steve Cathan.

Damage assessments are going on in several states in the Midwest after reports of warnings. Steve Cathan is the current and final anchor of the CBS World News Roundup. When did you discover that there was something called CBS News Radio? Boy, I mean, I remember listening in the 1960s on my... transistor radio and that's where I heard Some of the great CBS News broadcasters.

This is Douglas Edwards, CBS News New York. Civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was shot at a downtown. You were hearing something live.

It was a live broadcast. Dr. King reportedly was hit in the face. The extent of his injuries are not known at this moment. Everyone knows the legacy of CBS.

Everybody knows the power and respect that that name engenders. And Alison Keys, a standoff is going on between the U.S. and Iran over the Strait of Hormuz. Program hosting correspondent Allison Keys has covered a lot of stories in her more than 25 years in radio. But no other like the one she covered live on September eleventh, two thousand one.

I can hardly breathe. It looks like a nuclear war happens here. You can't see the sky at all. It's all gray smoke. People needed to know what was going on that day.

And they needed to know real time, no filter, no politics, here's what's happening. Getting the opportunity to come and work at that place as an entry-level desk assistant. Was a very starry-eyed dream ability to fulfill, to sit in that room with giants. Craig Swagler worked at CBS News Radio for 22 years. How important was radio to the formation of CBS itself?

It was the beginning. It was what started it all. The Columbia Broadcasting System now presents. Yes, CBS began as a radio network in 1927. But Swaggler, who became the network's top radio executive and now runs Baltimore Public Media, says that it wasn't until the year before World War II that CBS changed how news was reported with a single broadcast.

Tonight the world trembles, torn by conflicting forces. Throughout this day. It was March 13th, 1938. What was invented that day was the start of broadcast journalism. Right at this moment, Austria is no longer a nation, but is now officially a part of the German Empire.

Just the day before, Adolf Hitler and his army had marched into Austria, swallowing the country whole in what would be known as the Anschluss or annexation. The Nazis have taken over the radio and they are out to control everything. A then unknown twenty nine year old Edward R. Murrow happened to be in Europe, sent there by CBS Chief William S. Paley to recruit voices for the radio.

But when Murrow observed just how dangerous Hitler was, he and the executives back home set about broadcasting what was revolutionary for the time a live news program with remote reports from five European cities, a technical marvel. Robert Trout anchored from New York. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency says tonight that at least 150 prominent Jews, bankers and businessmen have been arrested by Nazi brown shirts acting as auxiliary police. Murrow himself reported from Austria's capital The first time his voice was heard by the public. This is Edward Murrow speaking from Vienna.

It's now nearly 2.30 in the morning. And Herr Hitler has not yet arrived. No one seems to know just when he will get here, but most people expect him sometime after 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. That nineteen thirty eight broadcast electrified audiences, and so the CBS World News Roundup, America's longest running news program, was born. It brought Americans the war.

This is London. For some reason, Sunday seems to be London's night. We've been bombed tonight. and its grisly aftermath. Permit me to tell you what you would have seen and heard had you been with me on Thursday.

It will not be pleasant listening. Here's Murrow describing what he found at the Buchenwald concentration camp after the Germans had fled. In another part of the camp, they showed me the children. Hundreds of them.

Some were only six. One rolled up his sleeve. Showed me his number. It was tattooed on his arm. An elderly man standing beside me said, The children.

Enemies of the state. As a kid growing up in Texas, did you listen to CBS News Radio? Yes, indeed. My father and mother were very interested in what was happening. in Germany.

He and my mother viewed radio as a kind of magic carpet. They would chase you there. and ten-year-old Dan Rather traveled the world on that magic carpet. I had rheumatic fever as a child.

So I was confined to bed and yes, I was almost, I would say, riveted to the radio. because he was my constant companion. This is the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather reporting from CBS News Headquarters. Rather would become the anchor and managing editor of the CBS Evening News, but he began his career in radio. Dan, what is the mood and the spirit in Dallas tonight?

Here he is just after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Edward R. Murrow had left CBS just a year before Dan arrived. But the standard he and his colleagues set remained a benchmark throughout the news division.

All of them could write well. You didn't work for Morrow if you couldn't write well. And this put him in conflict sometimes with the people who ran the network. They didn't think that some of these correspondents had voices for radio. One I would read say Charlie Herald.

or Collingwood script. I would say to myself, Dan, You've got to make yourself a better writer and you better do it in a hurry. or you're not going to be around here. I started out in broadcasting at a country western radio station called WJEF in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and it was a CBS radio affiliate. Before she joined CBS in 1977, Sunday Morning's Martha Teischner was learning from CBS News Radio.

I used CBS Radio to teach me How to be a reporter and a broadcaster. After hours, Martha transcribed what she had heard and then read those scripts over the original recordings. I would read the transcriptions to Eric Severide or Walter Cronkite or Douglas Edwards and that taught me how they wrote, and it taught me how they breathed in a sentence? Like karaoke almost. I really was learning from the best.

Cuban refugees overcome by joy at reaching the United States. It is a staggering sight, this ragtag flotilla, boat after boat, people crowding. Those voices were your earliest broadcasting mentors? Absolutely. All mail.

There weren't any women. The Osgood file, Charles Osgood on the CBS Radio Network. And our own Charles Osgood, who died two years ago, joined CBS Radio in 1967. On his daily Osgood file Charlie turned news into poetry. Here he is describing what it meant to be a person of the opposite sex sharing living quarters.

There's nothing that I wouldn't do if you would be my possible Q. You live with me and I with you, and you will be my apostle, Q.

So this is the CBS News Radio Newsroom. This was where we were for 40 plus years. Dustin Gervais is a CBS radio news manager. Staff here in New York once coordinated reporting from around the globe. It's Mexico City.

We have a division. The whole world in this small space. And that's what we covered. We covered the whole world. You know, these are all awards.

And won broadcasting's top honors. This is from 1970. This is an Ohio State Award to CBS News Radio for the incredible year. How should CBS News Radio be remembered? CBS Radio should be remembered for becoming a national institution.

and, says Dan rather, one that did more than deliver the news. it for many, many years. was a part. And I would argue Not a small part. Of what held the country together.

Good morning. This is Dallas Townsend. I'm Freed Collins. Bill Litch. I'm Christopher Glam.

I'm Nick Young. Good night. And good luck. For those who've lost their mothers, especially at an early age, Mother's Day can be bittersweet indeed. but, as Faith Saly tells us, there's strength in community.

On a mountaintop in Northern California, a group of women met for the first time. This is the picture I have of my mom. They call themselves motherless daughters. These women were all aged 21 or younger when their moms died, many from illnesses like cancer, some more suddenly. We say at every retreat there may be 20 women who came to the retreat, but there's 40 women in the room.

And it's a way to reaffirm that these aren't just women who died, they're also women who lived, and that many of them lived joyously. Hope Edelman is the mother of motherless daughters. Since the first retreat in 2016, Over 500 women have attended at locations across the country. How many of you have felt that your life story Has been divided into a before and after. The gatherings, like this one at Mount Madonna, include deep conversation, and then take your arms up towards the ceiling, reach up, yoga.

Sharing of meals. I don't remember her voice. And sharing of tears. And even though some participants call this sad camp, there is lots of laughter. She loved to play pranks.

Um She would steal people's stuff at work and like leave them ransom notes for them to find it. Edelman says the women who come here feel seen. Our mother was usually the person who saw us. Yes, so many of us have not felt seen for a long time. I know this pain.

I too am a motherless daughter. The older I get, the more I'm just grateful I had my mom. Yeah, that I had her. for the time I had her. I'm now years older than my mom ever lived to be.

Edelman's mother died in 1981 at age 42. Hope was just seventeen. My mom had been the person, the emotional center of the family. In the years following, she tried to find stories that could help her understand her grief, which led to an idea. When I started doing interviews and research and found other women and saw how similar our stories were, I knew there was going to be a book there.

Her book, Motherless Daughters, published in 1994, was an instant bestseller. Dear Hope, 20 years ago my mother died when I was 14. Over the decades, Edelman has received thousands of letters. Tears spring to my eyes in a moment when I remember her and the loss.

Now Motherless Daughters is far more than a book. It's a global support network and community founded by Edelman. What happens when motherless daughters find each other? There's an immediate sense of connection. One woman said years ago she felt like the alien finding the mothership.

I've heard ever since I was little how much I look like her. Jenny Jow says she'd never met another person who'd lost their mom to suicide as a child until she found this community. This is her third retreat. The women in the mothers-daughters community, they mirror back my own heart, my own goodness, my own compassion. People often seek this sisterhood at turning points in their lives, a health crisis, motherhood, marriage, or when they hit the age their mother was when she died.

Your mom was forty seven when she died. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 47 this year. Shana was 14 when her mother died.

Oh, financial aid. Ooh, open that.

Now, a mom with kids in their teens and 20s, she found herself in what she calls uncharted territory. Deep down inside, That little girl, she's just there, just going, I just want to hug my mom. I just want my mom to tell me it's going to be okay. She was always there for people. If your mother dies when she's old, you likely miss what you had.

If your mom dies when she's young, you miss what you never had.

So what didn't you get? A lot. It's just a deep, deep longing to be able to call your mom, to be able to ask her, how do I do this? What is happening to my body, what is happening in my heart, in my mind. Shana says that motherhood brought her a heartbreaking realization.

I realized what she lost when she died. Because I do not want to miss anything. with my kids. They have hard times, they have good times. I want to be there for all of them.

Is losing your mother when you are young and she is young, is that trauma? Yeah. It's an attachment trauma. It's a break in attachment and that's traumatic because your brain is constantly looking for your mother and she's not there. Angela Schellenberg, a fellow motherless daughter, is a therapist and retreat co-facilitator.

She says these gatherings are so healing because they cause an actual shift in our bodies. There's something called co-regulation, where our nervous systems feel each other. I know that sounds a little woo, but it does. But there's something about like just sitting in community and that settles the nervous system. I didn't talk about my mom for at least 40 years.

What might surprise some is the age range at these retreats. Women in their 20s all the way up to daughters in their 80s. Marcia Nowak is 81. But it's beautiful to have me and you and others as elders and the young who can share their life experiences. And be able to talk about it.

I went 30 years without seeing other women, those little girls that were living the same parallel world. Shana found that those grown girls who share her sorrow also embody the best of what their moms left behind. Being able to see all of those moms together. And then I would look at their living daughters and what they've all accomplished and who they are and. I connected them.

And it was powerful. Hope Edelman reminds us that we can carry our mothers with the joy they would wish for us. There will always be a tinge of sadness that pops up from time to time because we wish our mom were there. To witness our achievements, to help us through hard times. But We can celebrate her life in addition to grieving her absence.

Both of those things can be true. Our colleague Jonathan Vigliotti spent countless days and nights covering the terrible California fires last year. His new book, Torched, recounts that harrowing experience. and this morning he shares some thoughts. You probably remember the story of the three little pigs, three houses built three ways of straw, sticks, and bricks.

And a big bad wolf huffing and puffing, testing each one. That story played out in real life last year in Los Angeles. The Wolf, in this case extreme wind and fire fueled by climate change, leveled most of Pacific Palisades and Altadena. Just like in the fairy tale, not all the homes were created equal. LA's straw homes, older wood homes built before modern fire codes, made up many of the losses.

The city's stick homes were built to code and fared better, but code still allows wood construction, and many still burned. Far fewer homes were built like the third pig's house, the brick one. Those were homes that exceeded code. Many survived.

Now, Los Angeles is rushing to rebuild ahead of the 2028 Olympics, what Governor Newsom once called the Recovery Games. A cleanup and permit process that typically takes a year has been compressed into months. To be fair, fast isn't always the enemy of good. But shortcuts almost always are. In the rush, there's been little time to ask how do we build differently.

Instead, we're returning to the same blueprint, New Wood Homes. Even though steel and concrete composite homes, which resist flames far longer than wood, are available at similar cost and often lower insurance premiums. What I report in my new book is that many homeowners aren't even told about that option. Because changing course takes time. After a tornado leveled Joplin, Missouri in 2011, the city adopted significantly stronger building standards.

After 2005's Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans elevated rebuilt homes on stilts. On Katrina's 10th anniversary, President Obama said, real change takes time. and the courage to do things differently. In Los Angeles, the status quo and speed are driving the recovery. But there's still time to pump the brakes.

Permits are moving fast, but most homes haven't broken ground. There is time to adapt. And we must. because the wolf is still out there and still getting stronger. And it doesn't have to win.

We already know how this story ends. The wolf huffed. He puffed, but one house. One house. still stood.

This is it. Our one chance to get to know Tim Kono. Oh, that's a nice high drama line.

Okay, give me another. Why? What was the matter with that one? Nothing. It was perfect.

It was just reeking of your years on CBS. Martin Short struck comedy gold, starring alongside Steve Martin and Selena Gomez in the streaming hit series Only Murders in the Building. But that's just one chapter in his decades-long career. He's looking back on the highs and lows with Tracy Smith. There's a quote from Tom Hanks where he says, Marty operates at the speed of joy.

Is that true? You know, I don't analyze myself. If that's his review for me, I'll accept it. But I think I do have the happy gene, and I think my orientation is to be happy. Where do you think that comes from?

You think it's truly genetic? I do. I do. Wheel of Fortune! Give me a break.

I couldn't be more excited, I must say. For more than 50 years, he's been a bright spot on any stage or screen with that crazy energy and that singular smile. You don't think I know that? It's so funny that you don't think I know that. Why wouldn't you think I know that?

And when you know what Martin Short has endured in private, his sunny attitude is all the more astonishing. Let's say you're going to host a dinner party and you invite Marty. And then it turns out Marty can't come. You cancel the party. Yeah.

Marty, Life is Short, is out this week on Netflix, directed by Hollywood legend and family friend Lawrence Kasden. There, of course, Larry Kasden. Who says Marty needed to be prodded a bit to do it? But it was not a natural instinct of his to want it. He's not like that.

You had to sell him on it. I did. I had to sell him on it, and I had to lie to him, tell him how much I loved him, and I would never hurt him. Should I pick the kids up? Oh my god.

Oh my dear lord in heaven. Kasden also used hours of home movies with Marty's pals like Kurt Russell, Tom Hanks, and Steven Spielberg, who shot this himself. Before Kellusam I'll say. But with all of the good times, it seems he's had more than his share of bad. The youngest of five, Martin Short, was 12 when his older brother was killed in a car accident, and he was still in his teens when both of his parents died.

Your mother and father died. You also lost your brother all before age 20. Right. What did that teach you about grief and loss? What it developed In me was this muscle of survival.

and handling grief and A perspective on it. Do you think that that gave you a certain amount of bravery when it came to getting on stage, putting your shoes out there? I absolutely do. I think if you've gone through that, An audience not liking you is really not. that important anymore.

In 1977, that fearlessness led him to Toronto's second city, joining other legends in training like Eugene Levy, John Candy, and Katherine O'Hara, who died in January. The documentary is dedicated to her. Ah, seeing Catherine O'Hara in this documentary is such a treasure. I know. There was no one more brilliant.

There was no one. sweeter. And there was no one funnier. And she More than anyone SCTV would sit behind the camera and give you suggestions. Marty, try that and think.

Oh, okay. And then you always just did it. From this moment on. The film, like life itself, can be hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time. Nancy Dolman, his wife of 30 years, who first captured his heart back in his Toronto days, died of ovarian cancer in 2010.

Can you describe her? She was funny. She had lots of edge. It was an equal ping-pong match. There was no.

Gee, Mario. Although Tom Hanks, he'd go up to Nancy, aren't you tired of laughing at his jokes? Yeah. The film is also dedicated to one of their three children, daughter Catherine, a social worker who died by suicide this past February at age forty two. Is there anything you want to share about Catherine?

I'm so sorry. You know, it's been a nightmare. for the family. But the understanding that mental health and cancer, like my wife, are both diseases. and sometimes with diseases, They are terminal.

And my daughter fought for a long time. with extreme mental health. borderline personality disorder, other things, and did the best she could until she couldn't.

So Nan's last words to me were Mark, let me go, and she was just saying, Dad, let me go. How long have you lived here? I bought this in November of 87. It was based on two movies that I was going to make, and the second I signed the mortgage, one movie fell through. No!

And I said to Nancy, what did we do? We can't afford this. And she said, Then we'd move? Short's home in LA's Pacific Palisades was spared from last year's fires. His son's home was not.

And the losses of this year can seem overwhelming. I have a pretty good son. My son. Oliver and his wife are temporarily living in Newport Beach because their house burned down. And I must admit, I was getting in the car that day and I was thinking, Okay.

I'm seventy-five. Why am I continuing? Like, really, why I'm I'm not I'm not gonna crash my car, but why What is the point of this? And then I got to Newport and these Two grandsons, five and four, just jumped PABA! Let's play giant.

And suddenly you go, oh, that's why. That's why.

Okay. Despite your obvious Pathologies. I'm here still and I'm not going anywhere. And I sign on to your crazy. He'll soon be shooting another season of the hit show Only Murders in the Building.

Before I accept, just out of curiosity, is there any family money? and there are some other things in the works. Is there a chance that you'll go back on Broadway? I heard Meryl Streep saying maybe you two are cooking something up. We are trying to figure out something.

We're just not sure if we if the box office would be there. Yeah, for the truth. Yeah, it's a real gamble. It's a gamble. You never know how Meryl's going to do at the box office, but let's hope.

Why do you continue? I just think it's important if you're gifted. To share that gift with people, I don't know, like you. And we're grateful. He may joke about it, but it is a gift.

Somehow, Martin Short keeps everyone laughing, trying to find joy. even in moments when it's hard to see anything but pain. When Nancy got sick, she wanted you to keep working. Did you want to keep working? I didn't work as much.

But I remember I was doing damages at the time, and this was last five months, but I went for a month to shoot. And I remember getting the set and no one knew and Glenn would go, Marty's here, yay! And I'd go, okay, let me just go to the dressing room for a second. Yeah. Okay then, you know, that's what you have to do.

Did it help? to get out there and do that? I don't know if it helped. You know, it didn't help, but you had to do it. You know, I mean People have to do things in difficult times.

and the mark of the man is can you do it? What do you tell yourself to get through that.

Well, it's something that I've just been in that situation many times. I just. You head for the light. Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. I don't know if you knew this, but anyone can get the same premium wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying.

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At the heart of Steve Hartman's story this weekend, a daughter's appreciation for a mother's love. Boca Raton is one of the wealthiest cities in Florida. But even along these golden sands, people still get stuck in fiscal undertows. I caught myself like worrying about things that I feel like no kid really should. Like like finances and housing and where I was gonna lay my head down that night.

26 year old Anna Duarte says as a child, she and her mother were homeless. We rented a room here, constantly moving, so many random places, constantly struggling, because we didn't have any electricity at all. She always wants a home. She always asked me for home And you couldn't provide that? No.

we went through very rough time. Anna's mother, Annette, worked very long hours as a maid and doing other odd jobs. but Annette always felt at least they had each other. The two of them against the world. Until high school, when Anna started running out of patience and grace.

She turned bitter, began blaming her mother for all those years of struggle, and eventually left. The old two against the world. was now Each to her own. she was get mad at me. She think I didn't I didn't care.

And they did care. But my hand was so tied up that I couldn't do it. For my mom, it was like torture. But like there was no other option because I didn't want to keep living these patterns. Like I wanted to build my life.

which she did. Anna graduated from Florida Atlantic University with a degree in social work and then got a job with Food for the Poor, an international Christian relief organization. Last year, Anna also got her first real apartment. which she told her mom about immediately. I called her up and I was just like, so I have an apartment.

It's two bedroom, two bath. Would you like to come live with me? She even gave her mom the master bedroom. Wow. She's not even saying anything.

She's like just looking around like, whoa, I have a bed. She's feeling the mattress. Have you ever had your own bedroom before? No. First time?

Yeah. It's something that is gonna st stay for the rest of my life. And every time I look for her, I know. This weekend. we celebrate the deepest love on earth.

But it's important to remember that Mother's Day isn't just about rewarding your mom for what she's done. It's about recognizing. that she did everything she could. Mm-hmm. We figured this was the perfect day to check in with longtime contributor Josh Seftel.

and his mom Pat. Hello? Hi. Wait a minute. Oh, it keeps falling off.

Really? Are you excited about spring? Sure. Spring is nice. What do you like about it?

The flowers. I get out more. Everything looks new and fresh. Baseball starts. It looks like you're wearing a spring-themed top.

I put it on this morning for you. Are you excited about Mother's Day?

Well, now that you brought it up. You know, it was started by Anna Jarvis in the early 1900s in memory of her own mom. That was very nice. She ended up hating the commercialization and she actually tried to sue the candy companies and the greeting card companies. Really?

What do you think about that? In some respects, I think she's right, but in other respects, I like all the presents. Do you like being known as the mom? Because you're on this show. Here's Josh Saftel and his mom.

His mom. And, of course, his mother. I love it. A lot of men come up to me. And they'll say, Oh, you're the mom.

Oh, and I'd have somebody take a picture.

So, in a way, Mother's Day is your date. I hope so. But you still wouldn't mind getting some flowers and candy. Who would mind that? Anna Jarvis.

I don't know if she wouldn't need a bite of candy. What do you want to get for Mother's Day this year? What I really would like to get is a puppy, but since I know I can't, hearing from all my children is the biggest present at my age. My children are very good to me. Maybe you shaped us into being nice kids, so now you reap the benefits.

Well, I'd like to think that had something to do with it. Do you remember Mother's Day when you were a kid? When I was 11, my father passed away.

So I only had my mother. We always made things in school, presents and stuff, and that always made me happy to make those. What do you think makes a great mother? When you love your children, a lot of stuff just comes naturally. You do it, and you wonder if you're doing it right sometimes, but you're doing it.

Anna Jarvis, her idea was to recognize the sacrifice that mothers make. Do you feel like you sacrificed for us?

Well, I sacrificed my sleep.

Well, thank you for being my mom.

Well, I'm glad I got you. Really? Yeah. I'm glad I got you.

Now I'm gonna cry, so turn and turn onto his camera. What message do you have for mothers out there today? Happy Mother's Day to all the other mothers out there. Enjoy yourself. If your children are celebrating you, that maybe you did do a good job.

All right, bye. Love you. Love you. Bye. Yeah.

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