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Pretty much the same thing to him. But I enjoy my time with you so much. I'm excited. I didn't know it was 20 plus years. The National Dog Show on NBC, Thanksgiving Day.
It'll be on from 12 to 2. I did not know you were doing it that many years. 23 years. We've done it like that.
We hold an audience on any given year between 25 and 30 million people. Isn't that amazing? It's incredible. And did you go in as an expert in dogs or just passion? Do you just like dogs?
Would you like to hear? What does your dog resume look like? This is the first year that we had the dog show. They brought the old English sheepdog up to the judge, this elegantly gowned woman.
And if you don't know what an old English sheepdog is, it's 80 pounds of hair and two pounds of actual dog. So she walks around to the back of the dog. She starts picking through all of the hair on the back of the dog. And I turned to David Fry, my co-host, the most knowledgeable man in the world of dogs.
He's been on our show. And I said, David, can you explain what she's doing? He says, John, she's putting her hands on the dog. To make sure that the shoulders and the hips align with the written specification of what the perfect old English sheepdog should be. He said, because you can hide a really bad dog with a really good haircut.
And I said, you're telling me I went to junior prom. She walks around to the front of the dog and starts picking through the hair on the dog's head. And I said, David, what is she doing now? He says, John, she's trying to find the eyes to make sure that they gauge the attentiveness of the dog. And I said, really?
I said, well, if she picks through all of that hair and she finds only one eye, she's got the wrong end of the dog. This was on air? Yes, this was my first year of the dog show. And he loved it, right?
Well, it turned out, you know, it turned out in USA. Because he has a sense of humor. Well, you know, in the USA today, on Monday, they always have notable comments from the sports commentators. And that was right up at the top, the wrong end of the dog. Oh, Hurley. Well, that is fantastic. So you look forward to it. Oh, every year. You know why?
But you have to repair, though, right? Well, when we started off back in 2002, there were 165 breeds that were registered with the AKC. Now there are 213. We have 205 of them at this show.
It's a record number that we've ever had. So you've got to know a lot of new things. Every year there are spring and new breeds. We have a brand new breed this year. The Lancashire Heeler, which is a little, looks like a Corgi. And it is, in fact, a herding dog that kind of nips it. A tiny herding dog. I wouldn't say tiny, but small.
But smaller. It's amazing how much herding we needed at one point, right? Like everything, with the Border Collie, also a herding dog. They told me the Great Pyrenees was herding dogs. Oh, yeah.
I haven't, yeah. The Great Pyrenees, the Newfoundland, also a herding dog. Well, you remember... Men just didn't want to do it. Well, if you think about it, dogs really weren't pets 4,000 years ago. We used them to stay alive. We used them for, now, I mean, here's another one, ratting. Remember those halcyon days of ratting?
Not yet. What is rat? Do you actually kill rats with dogs? Well, all of the terriers were ratters. Yeah, they were all meant to get the vermin. That's why their heads are always that kind of little shape, and they go right down the hole, and they pull out the... And that's why the dogs also have that stubby little tail. You pull them out by the tail.
This is fascinating. I mean, I'm being serious, because I'm a big dog family. Well, dogs have a breed... The breeds have a form and a function, and that's what the show is all about. It's keeping the rich history of breeding alive so that these dogs can continue to do what they were bred to do. And it's just fascinating to see that some...
I mean, you're right. When you talk about an Australian shepherd, you can whistle or snap a finger, and that dog will hear that a quarter of a mile away and respond to it in the herd, and it's fascinating to watch. Yeah, my brother's really into this, can see any dog and tell you exactly where it is, but now I'm obsessed with... If I see a dog and I don't know what it is, I go up to... I have to know.
No. And I saw Australian... What is the... Is the Australian shepherd shaggy? I saw a shaggy shepherd. It was bigger at the shoulder than the typical German shepherd. No.
What was I looking at? That was bred into something. Oh, really? Yeah, it was bred into something.
Yeah, the Australian shepherds are... Well, the show has no cheaters. Right. We're celebrating... You go for pedigrees. We're going for the pedigrees, like you. Right. You're a pedigree. Not really. I'm Irish and Italian, so I would not be in your show. Oh. Right. It's a mix that seems to work.
I know a lot of successful people that are Irish and Italian, but we're going to do a study on it at the end. So you are also very much into the news, John O'Reilly. Into what? Into the news. Oh, exactly. You keep up to everything.
Every time I talk to you... I saw your Brett Bears. Brett Bears is a great thing that he does for General Hospital. For the Children's Hospital. The Children's Hospital right in Washington, D.C. He's so good to his child. I tell you, they've done wonderful things with Brett's son. Right. Absolutely.
And everybody else. So where do you live now? I live in L.A.
In Lalaville. What was the response in L.A. to the election? Because Trump seemed to have gained in 49 of 50 states, including in cities. Of course, not the majority. If you looked at the progressive color change in the state of California during the election, you will see it turning more and more rosé, to use a wine analogy, for California. And I find that to be a very telling thing that I think that there is a certain intolerance now of the way that things are being handled out there. That state is way too expensive, and it's just a mess.
Gascon ousted with 30 percent. Isn't that a great sign? Remember the whole, cops are bad to fund the police? The criminals deserve to be free? That's got him 30 percent of the vote in Los Angeles. Doesn't that give you hope?
Well, it does, and also the fact that they're waiting for the signing in of the new DA to overlook the Menendez case. What you thought about that? I don't know. My daughter came out, this is taking over college campuses, because they watched the movie, and with the reenactments, and I'm getting all these questions from my college daughters. Yeah, I don't know.
When I first heard about it years and years ago, I had trouble buying into the molestation, and that being used as a reason to remove the heads of your parents. I think at one point you fire enough bullets, you say, well, I'm not as mad as I was when I started this. Exactly. So I don't know. They did an atrocious thing to their parents.
So I don't know. It's got to be front and center in Los Angeles, surely. So we watched a lot of people go to endorse Kamala Harris, who's California's finest, and she's out there. We watched Beyoncé. We watched Willie Nelson, Bruce Springsteen, The Stallion. What was The Stallion's first name? Megan The Stallion.
Sorry. What was her name? Cardi B. Cardi B, she struggled a little bit? Yeah, she was out there.
Well, fortunately, she had her smartphone. Right. After like five minutes.
Yeah, it did. And it proved a thing that I've always said. Which is? Because I'm a celebrity doesn't mean that my opinions deserve to be celebrated. I am just another bozo on the bus. Right. And that's all we are out there. We do happen to do one thing well, but it doesn't transfer into the fact that we are any smarter than anybody else. But George Clooney ousted a president.
Can you believe it? George Clooney. So we can't say celebrities don't have power, John O'Hurley.
They do. But also, it backfired on him. It backfired. He has openly said that I am staying out of politics for the foreseeable future. I apologize.
I'm sorry, not accepted. So I want you to hear what Joe Rogan said, who used to be in California, moved over to Texas, wanted to pay a little bit less more taxes, although he went to Austin, which is a fine city, but it's very liberal. It's the liberal city. But he's not a Republican, and he's not a conservative. I'm listening to these people say, Joe, we need a Joe Rogan for our side. He was on your side. He was voting for Bernie Sanders. He's not for Republican or Democrats, for common sense. But listen to what he said has happened since he came out to endorse President Trump. Do you know how many artists that have reached out to me that are like hippies, man?
Like artists, like musicians, comedians, that thanked me for endorsing Trump because they can't do it. They said they want to, but they don't want to be attacked. They can't say it. They think the country's going in the wrong direction. They think that this control of social media by the government, which we would have had pretty much fully if it wasn't for Elon buying Twitter, that this is a dangerous precedent to set, whether it's a right-wing government or a left-wing government. You thought it doesn't surprise you?
No, it doesn't, and not at all, not at all. There is a, you know, we had a quiet group of people called Friends of Abe years ago, which was the conservative element. I spoke to them. You did.
They asked me to speak to them. And Gary Sinise and Kelsey Grammer, myself, and Tommy Dreesen, a few other people, John Voigt as well. That was all part of the beginnings of that group.
And there were 2,000 members of that group. Now, just think about it. You think of Hollywood as a unilateral political thought that everybody's like a lemming to the sea. Well, not so, not so, not at all.
But it's a very quiet response. And I'll tell you, the reason, I believe, is that the liberal mentality moves towards groups. They form groups. You look at BLM, you look at Planned Parenthood, you look at PETA, you look at all of these that are essentially liberal groups.
And that's what they move towards, and the power of the group will then have the, usually be a little less mature than the individuals in it. But if you look at the, if you look at conservatives, you can't poll them because you can't find them. And I don't know who else is conservative because we don't talk about it. We just go about our lives and feel that we are personally responsible for our success or our failure.
And that's what it is. So you can't really find us to poll us. And that's why they always under-poll the conservative numbers. This always blew me away because I have a lot of actor friends and also did stand up for a while. It is pure meritocracy. I mean, look, John, you probably, you might have a friend that recommends you and you might get a pulpit if you can't perform, if you don't know those lines, under pressure. If you don't get ratings, if you don't get viewers, you don't get box office.
After a while, if you're not a good team player, if you don't put the work in, you're not gonna get hired. Yet they subscribe to a lot of elements and beliefs that show I'm gonna share my money with other people. We're not gonna be a meritocracy. We don't really like that capitalism. It's not really fair. I am privileged for the opportunity to fail, I guess. So it's almost counterintuitive.
I look at actors. When they make it, they make it. But you know how little money you guys have when you start? You're sharing small apartments together.
You can't afford to live in Los Angeles. And you remember how you try to get an agent that will return your call. You're gonna outwork them. That is a fundamental and composite American dream. I'm going to pursue my dream.
And when you finally get there, you know how hard you work. You should be the last one that wants to give up 60% of your paycheck. Well, interesting. Layer that with the cushion of a union. We have the actors union and things like that. And people have grown up as professional actors, but they always have the protection of the union that provide the minimum payments to provide all of the benefits and stuff.
So it becomes, as you move on, it becomes less and less of a solo adventure. And it becomes that you can move along with the cushion of the union. Does the union provide money when you can't get work?
Mm-hmm. Oh, I didn't know they provide... Yeah, they do have a fund that you can... Do you tap into? I haven't had... No, but I'm saying you know people they tap into.
And Sam, have you lost money? Have you lost jobs because you didn't vote for President Obama? The answer to your question very simply, too, I had two very large, I would say, sizable endorsement contracts that I lost because within two weeks of filming, the CEO of each of the companies, and they will remain nameless, found out that I was a conservative and they canceled the contract. Does that anger you? Oh, terribly, terribly.
Because it's difficult enough to get to a point in your career when you finally can command some attention and to have that wiped free because of your simple political beliefs. And I don't, I mean, I don't eschew anybody else, their beliefs at all. I don't care, frankly. Right. Yeah, I don't care.
I mean, if you feel differently than I do, then good. But I've lost many friendships over it. I've lost... And certainly work.
And again, and then there is the other side of it, too, is that you'll never know the jobs you've lost. They don't say, hey, by the way, John, you're not getting that job. So John is pumped up today because he is announcing the National Dog Show. He's going to be hosting again on NBC Thanksgiving Day, which is right around the corner, 12 to 2, wherever you get NBC on your cable dial. Not available on UHF. Is that true? More with John O'Hurley in just a moment.
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You're fired. John O'Hurley on Seinfeld. John is here. The National Dog Show is coming up on NBC on Thanksgiving Day from 12 to 2, and it's our chance to talk about also comedian, author, actor, game show host.
He'll do it all, spokesperson too, right? I do. Did Seinfeld, did it hurt you getting Seinfeld? Did they know you were conservative before you got Seinfeld?
No. And he wouldn't have cared anyway, right? And, you know, back then, I don't, politics never entered into Hollywood. I'd never heard, and I never even realized that Hollywood was liberal leaning. I never knew, never knew. It really wasn't until Obama that I really got the, I got the message.
Why? It was just apparent that everything was going to be leaning that way. I thought the apology to President Obama when he went overseas in Apologize for America, I go, I never heard that before. We used to be accused of being, walking around with too much of a swagger like we were the best country ever.
And his wife saying how ashamed she was of America. I've heard that. John, you feel optimistic, though, going into his Thanksgiving season.
A sense of optimism that I have never felt at any other time of my adult life. I truly mean that. I feel the same way. So many people have said that to me. Why do you think it is?
Well, because I have never stayed in an Obama, I never stayed in a Hillary, I never stayed in a Biden, but I've stayed in a Trump, and it was always the best place in town. Right. And I get the sense he's not going to be a great Republican or Democrat. He knows.
I think he's going to be a great leader. He does what he, he completes what he says he's going to do. Right. And I can't find that anywhere in the political landscape. And he starts with the border.
Yes. Shut it down. He starts with the border, and then we get rid of the criminals, and we go from there. John O'Reilly, thanks so much.
Great to be with you, my friend. Check him out. National Dog Show on NBC. He's got to tell Stuart Varney that he likes him, too, almost as much as me. Will he say that verbatim? Stay tuned to find out.
