Biden's "garbage" comment complicating Harris' closing message

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. How do you like my garbage truck? He was not calling Trump supporters garbage. The only garbage I see floating out, there's his supporter.

250 million Americans are not garbage. I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. I have heard from Republicans that there is concern at the Trump campaign that the turnout and enthusiasm numbers aren't where they need to be. Donald Trump wins comes next week. The signs all along will have been obvious, the right direction being very low, Joe Biden's approval rating being very low, and Republicans really registering numbers.

You can't say you weren't warned. And that last guy was from CNN. Joining this is going to be a big hour. Thanks so much for being with us, everyone. This is Brian Kilmeat Joe.

We're five days in counting to the big four days in counting. Wait, is it five is four days in counting of To election day. Let me see. We got Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I'm going to go five.

Five days in counting. And by the way, it is getting really exciting. Anyone who says, I know exactly what's going to happen, is just not telling you the truth. This hour going to join by Kaylee McGee White Childusa, analyze what's going on on the ground, senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum. She under the belief that the Republicans got to do better with women?

That's what Nikki Haley was saying yesterday on the stump. Paul Stone's going to be with us too, economic analyst and CEO of Colonial Metals Group. You know, the economy is growing at 2.8%, and people are feeling better about the economy now than they were six months ago. But what's the reality on the ground? And with us right now is James Blair, Donald Trump's campaign political director and focusing on the ground game.

James, welcome to Brian Kilmeet Show. Thanks for having me, Brian. Great to be on. Hey, James, they say it's going to be one or loss in the ground game. And you guys, for the first time, used outside groups.

You organized it, you were the quarterback of it, but organized other groups to go out and knock on doors and target low-propensity voters. How's it going? I think it's going really well. Look, coming into the beginning of this year, there was really a proliferation of groups on the right that had already decided that they were going to go out and do heavy ground operations. There's been a move towards that over the last four and two years in the Republican Party with some prominent outside groups.

Just feeling like, in their view, historically, Republican ground efforts have left a lot to be lacking. And so when we recognized that reality, and then the FEC came out with an advisory opinion that changed the playing field quite significantly, our first instinct was to go out to all of those groups and get them rowing in the same direction. As you know, Brian, sometimes different organizations can sort of inadvertently work at cross purposes. And we wanted to get everybody in the boat rowing together. And I think that's worked out really well in compliments to them.

Most of them were immediately happy to do that to make sure that we win and all Republicans win.

So I think what we have is the biggest, most unified, most organized, and most strategically thought-out. Ground game that the right has ever seen. Not to mention our in-house effort is huge, much bigger than people give us credit for. And I think ultimately that's going to bear out on Election Day. But look, it's already bearing out in the early voting numbers and the mobilization of Republicans and in the voter registration that led up to this point.

So we feel really good about things. From what you can tell, do you think that there's a theory out there that you got Republicans voting early, cannibalizing the day of elections? Others say you're getting them to the polls when low-propensity voters who weren't going to get there. What do your stats say? What's important is who is mobilizing more low and mid-propensity voters?

And when I say low, I also include those newly registered voters. Look, we have more newly registered voters than they do by quite significant margins, all of these states. Especially in Pennsylvania, right? 100%. I mean, in Pennsylvania, there was six hundred eighty five thousand more Democrats than Republicans registered going into the twenty twenty election.

Today, we've slashed that number down to two eighty more. And when you look at a state that the final tally was eighty thousand votes, I mean, we've more than four X Cut that deficit on registration alone. We are mobilizing more newly registered voters, more low propensity voters, more mid-propensity voters than they are at this juncture across the battleground states, and that hugely inner to our benefit on Election Day.

So the cannibalization, you know what? I'll say this. Back in twenty twelve, Brian, the Romney campaign was saying when early voting was going very well, and you can go back and look at the news. Was when the Romney campaign, or excuse me, when the Obama campaign was having gangbusters early voting, the Romney campaign was saying they're just cannibalizing. And we know how that worked out.

The fact is, when you're mobilizing your voters to the polls and they're excited to go out, which we've seen in every state, particularly as in-person early voting is opening, that's a great sign.

So it's really us with the edge. We're hugely outperforming where we were four or two years ago, and there's plenty of voters left for Election Day for us to get the numbers that we need. And so we are very, very confident in where we're headed right now.

So sometimes you've got to be nimble with a campaign. You think you have a plan, and then things happen. Are you going to adjust? Whether it's a war, a natural disaster, or what the other campaign does. And what's kind of interesting, what Joe Biden decided to do.

He was told, even though they were having a major speech in his backyard in Washington, he was doing a Zoom call. At which time, people were asking about a joke that was told at the Madison Square Garden situation, at the Madison Square Garden event, which was an overwhelming success. But one comedian came out and decided. Decided to just kind of disparage a bunch of nationalities in the vein of humor, one of which was say Puerto Rican is a floating pile of island of garbage. Joe Biden hears that and says, I don't know that type of Puerto Rico.

He goes, Where I'm from, in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. Your reaction to that was swift, direct, and you want to make him pay the price. How does that resonate? And how does that feel as somebody who spent the last two years doing this?

Well, look, I mean, first of all, what he said was offensive. It's denigrating to more than half the country. And it obviously is reminiscent of Hillary Clinton deplorables. And we know that she never became the president. And look, credit to the president, President Trump, first of all, he was offended on behalf of half the country, and he made that very clear.

And he said, you know, politically, we got to make them pay. And then we worked quickly to do that. And obviously, it's great to see a campaign that is nimble enough to execute quickly and take advantage of the opportunities presented, as you said, in these waning hours of the election.

So I think the president and the team did a great job of taking advantage of that just on a political level. But let's not get lost. You know, what President Biden said was that half the country is garbage. He made that very clear. They may have broken the law, according to some members of the House, with their editing of his transcript, which they've been saying many times.

But look, it doesn't pass the smell test. It doesn't pass the smell test with votes. And I think that we will certainly turn around should we be successful Tuesday night and point to it as a real inflection point and a real unforced error. I want people to hear the president.

So, what you guys did is you wrapped a garbage truck that says Trump. He put him in a reflector vest and he went in a garbage truck. And now, everybody who was covering his Wisconsin event saw Donald Trump in a garbage truck, which would make everybody who missed the story say, why is he in a garbage truck? Here he is, cut one. 200 150 million Americans are not garbage.

This week, Kamala. Has been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass murderers in history. And now, speaking on a call for her campaign last night, crooked Joe Biden finally said. What he and Kamala really think of our supporters, he called them garbage, no way. No way!

So that's just it. It's not about him. You call him Hitler. It's not just about his family, which I think should be out of bounds, but some of them work for the administration. And now they go after.

The people that vote for him. And I'm just wondering how that resonates. You look at are these people that might have thought, I might sit home, but now I'll get out there? Or do you think you might have converted some people with that at this point? What do you think?

Honestly, I think it helps convert some of the few people that are still left on the fence who people are really seeing that the hatred of the other side and that they don't really want to coexist in a country with us.

So I do think it has some persuasive effect with a narrow group of individuals that matter. But it certainly helps us drive voters to the polls and get them to turn out further. People want to make clear that they are not garbage and that it's a terrible thing to say. And as President Trump said, if you hate more than half the country, You really have no business leading it. And I think that's our position.

And I think the voters feel that way, too. Nikki Haley indicated, even though she's going to vote for you, told everyone yesterday in Pennsylvania, don't worry about personalities on the issues. It's got to be him. He critiques and says Trump campaign could do a better job reaching out to women. Do you think that's a worthy critique?

Um Yeah. I think that we reach out to all demographic groups very hard. We want to earn every vote. Certainly, and we value the female vote as much as any other vote, if not more so. That said, I do want to dispense with the narrative that the other side has tried to manufacture for the last two days about women turning up in early voting numbers and that somehow benefited them.

The fact is, if you look at the gender distribution of the early vote, it is completely typical of what it normally is for the last several election cycles. There is zero evidence. In fact, the only evidence is that there's slightly more men voting in the early vote than they have the last couple of election cycles.

So that's just kind of a manufactured way to buy time, I think, for the Harris campaign to try to convince people that they're not headed for a loss when really everything points in that direction. James, best of luck down the stretch. Which state concerns you the most? Look, none of them concern me per se. I religiously don't rank the stakes.

It's very conceivable that we sweep all of them. But, of course, the blue wall is of paramount importance. Certainly, Pennsylvania is kind of the ballgame, but also Michigan or Wisconsin. We have lots of iterations that if we pick off any single one of those states, there's a very high chance that President Trump is headed back to the White House.

So it's really just focusing on making sure we pick one of those off because we think we will put the math together in the Sunbelt that will give us all of those routes. James Blair, Donald Trump's campaign political director. Thanks so much, James. Best of luck. Thanks, Brian.

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It's Brian Kilmead. My highest priority is to bring down prices and bring down costs. That is one of the biggest issues that is affecting the American people. I've been traveling the country. They know the price of groceries is still too high.

I know it's still too high. Bringing down the cost of housing, bringing down taxes for middle-class families so they cannot just get by but get ahead. Those are my highest priorities. This is the insanity of it. She's been vice president for four years, and then she now tells us last summer how great Bidenomics is when inflation was even higher than it is now.

But now she says that's going to be my priority. Joe Biden not listening, it is bizarre. I want to bring in an economic analyst, CEO of Colonial Metals Group, Paul Stone. Paul, your reaction to the state of the economy and what the Vice President wants to do.

Well, hey, great to talk with you this morning, Brian. She wants to carry on with the same policies that her predecessors have come up with, which is create money, hand that out to folks that are struggling. And what that continues to do is cause more money to chase after a limited amount of goods and services, causing those to become more expensive. And then the problem just continues to worsen. That's what seems to be happening.

But there is growth, 2.8 percent, a little bit below what you guys projected, what economic experts have projected. Your thoughts about the overall health of the economy?

Well, you got to look at the okay, so this is a great one. This is a great one. When you look at the increasing of debt, let's not forget about this piece. That's a trillion dollars in new debt created in every 100 days. It's the latest 100 days, a trillion.

The new money was created even faster.

So the pace seems to be quickening.

So where does that money go? They're not building ski resorts in Austria with that money. That money is pouring into our economy. Why would we need a trillion dollars in new debt in less than one hundred days, every hundred days? Because we're taking on water.

So no one is addressing the fact that what you call what people call GDP growth is not. without massive amounts of debt.

So you can't say we took on $7 trillion worth of debt. And got $7 trillion worth of revenue, can you?

Well, it's tough math.

So what I thought was really interesting was Howard Luttnick at that MSG event went up to Elon Musk. He's going to be the czar of efficiency and try to get government to work more efficiently. He thinks he can cut $2 trillion out of the budget just by being more efficient and with growth. Do you think you can cut $2 trillion out of the budget? Brian, you could cut two trillion out of the budget.

You could cut five. to say goodbye to a huge swath of the government. Yes, of course the cuts can occur, but then where so if the money isn't spent, now where does that money wash out to? I I you we need a smaller government. This is the core of our problem.

It's the core of so many problems that no one has yet to really. Become aware of because you wouldn't consider the government with smiling faces looking back at us from their podiums. Would be working against us, that the thoughts they come up with actually harm us. The printing of money. You just quit.

If they didn't print two trillion dollars this year, Brian, do you think people still have jobs? Do you still think the financial world still works the same?

Well, the Wall Street Journal has this story today that if Harris wins, it's going to be Obama III. At which time, if you listen to what she's saying, it's going to be $4 trillion in tax increases over the course of 10 years. Four trillion of tax increases that expands the entitlement world, which makes our obligations greater. Does that scare you? Of course, it scares me, but here's where I find help.

And this is something that people might find a little bit controversial, but can we please invite the math story into the discussion? Can we please recognize that math is a language And it's the only one that cannot lie. And the math story says eventually you've printed your money to death, and everything's worth zero. The dollar is only worth three cents today. Three cents is the buying power of the dollar.

2.7 cents, when, of course, when it was invented and backed by gold. It was worth 100 cents. You come off the gold standard, you print all the money in the world that you want. And you've killed that resource. That's where people have to wake up and think: oh, we can't just create a financial video game.

Environments and it all works because we say it works. No, eventually, math says it doesn't work. And the dollar, that resource, has been burnt to a crib. And that's why people say, give me, give me, uh. Give me a cyber cryptocurrency, or give me gold.

Just yes, exactly. Get me out of the dollar. Um but when you look at the government again, what she's proposing to do, uh raise taxes, which is to stymie the growth side of the economy. When does the government create Or does the government destroy? It doesn't create revenue.

It's so ridiculous during Obama's presidency when they started calling taxes and spending as investments. What investments did the government make? Creating growth, none. They're growing. The table today, Brian, is $1.4 trillion a year.

That's how much everything inside the government, everyone who works inside or contracts with the government, one point four trillion dollar a year salary sized government. It's a huge spending, they said the spending on our debt just in interest exceeds that of our defense budget, which is not big enough, if you ask me. Paul Stone, thanks so much. He's CEO of Colonial Metals Group. He's got his sleeves up every day trying to make this economy work.

And who are you voting for? I'm voting for Trump. All right. Trump is the answer on the economy. I know we had Howard Paulson on.

It looks like he's going to do the same thing. He wants to be the next Treasury Secretary for Trump a short time ago. Thanks a lot. The argument for me is someone has ideas and someone doesn't. The other one wants to spend a lot and has no financial background at all.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Kaylee McGee White is next senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum. Don't move. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

This is not a time to have anyone criticize Puerto Rico or Latinos. This is not a time for them to get overly masculine with this bromance thing that they've got going. 53% of the electorate are women. Women will vote. They care about how they're being talked to and they care about the issues.

They need to remember that. This is a time of discipline, and this is a time of addition.

So, Governor Nikki Haley, Ambassador Nikki Haley, is out there with Dave McCormick yesterday. And I think our message to Brett Baer, too, is: hey, guys, great rally at MSG, but it's a little broish. You got to remember, women are watching, too. Megan Kelly had a similar breakdown of that.

Well, how do you feel out there? I mean, does some of this stuff a turnoff? Are you totally okay with it? 1-866-408-7669. But right now, we have Kayleigh McGee-White, senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum, and Kaylee's going to be outnumbered a little bit later.

But Kaylee, I wanted to start with that. How do you feel? I mean, we know about the gender divide with the female Vice President and the male former President, but do you feel do you feel as though they would do well in the last five days to do something about it? I think that Trump certainly could try to make a bigger pitch to suburban women in particular. But his pitch as of right now is still compelling.

It's a pitch of the issues. It's a pitch about grocery prices and basic necessities that women care a lot about. And you know, I saw a really interesting poll this morning from Ross Mussen. He was polling Pennsylvania. He found that women in Pennsylvania only broke for Kamala Harris by three points.

Now in what the early voting? In the early voting, they are only breaking for Kamala Harris by three points. That is not a significant gender gap. And maybe that doesn't hold nationally. But the way that I view this is, you know, Kamala's camp assumes that there are going to be a lot of women who secretly vote for her but don't want to tell their husbands, right?

You've seen this ad, right? I think that there are actually going to be far more women who vote for Trump but don't want to tell their female friends about it because they feel like it would be betraying their sex. But when it comes to the issues, they mostly align with him. Right.

Well, we're about to find out. What about what everybody's talking about is what. Joe Biden said yesterday and basically called all Trump supporters trash. And Donald Trump made the most of it. He says that you insulted, you got in a garbage truck, wore a reflector vest.

On the other channels, they're saying this is like Dukakis in a tank. I don't see it that way, but how do you see it? I think that he's taking advantage of the moment, and I think it speaks to a level of relaxation of this campaign where he doesn't seem all too worried about it. He's out there having fun. He's driving a garbage truck, wearing the vest.

He's trolling Kamla. He does not seem worried about what's going to happen next week at all. And the Democratic position on this is so funny to me. They're trying to walk back Biden's comments about Trump supporters being garbage.

So the position apparently is this: that you are racist, you are fascist, and you are Nazis, but you are not garbage. How is that any better? It doesn't make any sense. I know. Here is Joe Biden doing what he does best in 2022 and 2023 in Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Arizona.

Cutting. Donald Trump and the Miagar Republicans. represented extremism. that threatens the very foundations of our republic. MIGA Republicans, the extreme Right, they they The the trumpies.

This magnet threads. It's a threat to the brick and mortar. or democratic institutions. But it's also a threat to the character of our nation.

Okay, besides that, I don't take it personal.

So, people that vote for their wear-the-hats are MAGA. We're proud of it.

Some people aren't. But there are voting. How is that not a shot at the voters? It absolutely is. And that's the thing: every time they insult Trump, They are insulting the people who elected Trump in the first place.

There are tens of millions of Americans who sent Donald Trump to the White House back in 2016. Even more who voted for him in 2020, and they're poised to do so once again in 2024 to vote for him. And so, this is always the problem: Democrats have tried to walk this fine line of insulting Trump without angering his base, and they just can't seem to do it. Right, it does.

Well, put it this way: if you just want to insult Donald Trump, you some people do like him so much they'll take it personally, but you can't do anything about that. You know, sometimes you criticize a quarterback or a baseball player, and people say, Well, I'm a Yankee fan. I take that person.

Okay, that's projection. But this is actually, no, you're the problem. Kamala Harris knows that you're right because she was forced to comment repeatedly about the so-called criticism of the voters. Got 14. First of all, I think that the President has explained what he meant.

But I've said it earlier. I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. And I've made that clear throughout my career, including my speech last night before I think this all happened. Right.

But the one where he called Trump a Nazi. I mean, basically, that was a... Sunday's event was similar to 1939. How would you wait online, get into Madison Square Garden, hear that, and not think that's what they think of you? Yeah.

Well, and let's follow the logical train of thought here. If Trump is a fascist, if he's the one who's holding a Nazi rally, what does that make the millions of people who voted for him? Are they also anti-democracy because they want to elect him? Are they also fascists? I mean, Biden is on record, as you mentioned, smearing half of the country as semi-fascist, whatever that's supposed to mean.

So, again, logically, if you believe that Trump is the next Hitler, you would also have to assume that the people who support him are Hitler supporters.

So. On social media, after the Elon Musk bought Twitter and exposed the Twitter files and talked about the manipulation, and then Mark Zuckerberg stops on with Joe Rogan and says, Yeah, I got told ahead of time about the laptop that summer and say the Russians might do something that looks exactly like this laptop, leaked documents that look authentic but they're not.

So we saw all this manipulation happening behind the scenes. But I thought that was to a degree in our rearview mirror, the shadow banning, the overall banning. And then Joe Rogan does this. Three-hour interview with President Trump. And you can't find it on YouTube.

And so he wouldn't put it on Twitter. This is what he said yesterday. This is what he said yesterday about it. And then he found out that the Harris camp reached out to him. But they didn't want to do it on his terms.

Listen, cut 21. She actually reached out when she found out that he was coming on.

So their camp reached out to me.

So I said, Great. I would love to talk to her. But it was very difficult to tie it down and a lot of they wanted to travel. And see, the the thing is, like, you can't if if I go somewhere, then there's gonna be other people in the room. And they want to control a lot of things, I'm sure.

According to the Brett Breyer interview on Fox, people were waving them off. That's a distraction. People in the room, like my whole goal with her and with him, is just talk, just have a conversation like a human being. You find out things about people. You get a sense of them, at least, a real sense.

That was it. I don't give a f what we talk about. I really don't. I just want to talk to you. Who the f are ya?

So they had to be in the room. You had to travel and it would only be an hour. He said, no, no, no. One of the things is, I don't want any handlers in the room. That blows the whole podcast aura.

It becomes a campaign event. And he hasn't even said who he's voting for. Is that a mistake? It is. This was an opportunity for Kamala Harris.

Joe Rogan's podcast is huge. There's a reason why Trump felt the need to do it. Yeah.

And that's a group that she really needs to appeal to right now. And I think the reason why she was so reluctant to do the podcast as it's supposed to be done, long form sitting in the studio in person without handlers in the room, is because that would force her to be authentic. You know, Joe Rogan mentioned that. I just want to talk about who you are. I just want to get to know you.

She's not an authentic person. She could not do a three-hour long conversation. There are only so many thoughts in her head. She would run through them in about thirty minutes. She's so scripted.

She has to stick to her canned talk. But do you believe that we just she just doesn't want to let us know who she is? Do you think, like, when she's out to dinner with Doug that she has trouble coming up with topics? I don't know. Maybe they talk about the nannies.

I have no idea what they talk about. You know, she, but at least in the campaign, she struggles to connect with voters because she's so dependent on her talking points, on her scripts, and in trying to maintain this persona of who she wants to be. But that's the problem: no one really knows who Kamala Harris is or what kind of president she would be. All right. So, where do you think this race is now?

My feeling as of right now is, I think Trump has it. I think his team is very confident that he has it. The Sunbelt is looking really good. I'm a little bit worried about some of the Rust Belt states, particularly my home state of Michigan. But again, remember back in 2020, all he needs is he needs North Carolina, he needs Georgia, he needs Pennsylvania, and he wins it.

Pennsylvania is still a coin flip.

Okay. McCormick McCormick's closing. Which is a good time for Trump and vice versa. The thing about the Rust Belt, and especially in a state like Pennsylvania, is I don't know how you win Pennsylvania with numbers as bad as Kamala Harris's among white working class men. She has to shore up that demographic in order to win a state like Pennsylvania.

That's not as going to be as big of a problem for her down in a state like Georgia.

So I actually would be a little bit more worried about Georgia if I were the Trump campaign. But I guess we'll see what happens. Uh I want you to hear what CNN's data guy. Political data reporter Howard Enton said cut twenty three.

So the bottom line is, very few Americans think the country is on the right track at this particular point. It tracks much more with when the incumbent party loses than with it wins. In fact, I went back through history. There isn't a single time in which 28% of the American public thinks the country is going on the right track in which the incumbent party actually won. They always lose when just 28% of the country believes that the country is on the right track.

Yeah.

So right now, very few think it's on the right track. You got to wonder if Democrats are really kicking themselves over replacing Biden with Kamala, if they really wish that they would have actually held a sort of open primary when Biden stepped down, because they saddled themselves with another incumbent. And so the message that they're bringing change in a new way forward, it does not resonate with the 70% plus Americans who want to put the country in a different direction because they know she's just more of the same. Here's Frank Luntz. You know, he's a force in politics, and he is not a Trump fan, not necessarily a hater, but he was the one who was interviewing Trump, you may remember, when he said about John McCain, I like guys that don't get captured.

And that kind of lost Frank Luntz. But he since had a stroke and is bouncing back, cut 26. What is going to happen with affordability? What's going to happen with the border, the two biggest issues, immigration and affordability? She's done an excellent job.

I'm focusing On uh the abortion issue on the Uh women's health issues. And even on healthcare. But those aren't the number one and number two issues for all of America. and she still hasn't said what she's gonna do. Unless I missed it.

in the first hour of her presidency, In the first day of her presidency and in the first week of her presidency. And she's only got seven days to go. I'm wondering if she's too late. She is too late. This should have been the number one campaign pitch when she ascended to the top of the Democratic party.

Focus too much on Trump. That's what they keep saying. It's all about Trump constantly. It's all about January 6th. It's all about Trump.

It's all about democracy. And again, no one cares about those things because at a certain point, the fear-mongering just stops working. Like the Jimmy Kimmels of the world, okay. They want to talk about it every day. Wiz Cheney, every day.

Adam Kinziger, every day. But for the most part, there's been so many days and so many things that have happened since. As Nikki Haley put it great, she goes, I want to know what happened after January 6th because you had the job. And what happened after January 6th? That's what we're voting on.

Not January 6th. You weren't in power. You didn't control security. You were a bystander. You made your opinions known.

You made it. They come back every year to the spot where it happened and where it took place on the Capitol. I think it's done. And I think Trump would be smart not to bring up anything about those guys that got put in jail because of this. They're not great martyrs or patriots, especially if you hit a cop.

So the Republicans should stay the hell away from that. Right.

And if you think about it, the issues that Kamala Harris is running on, whether it's January 6th, democracy or abortion, these are sort of niche issues that actually reflect an amount of privilege among the voters who care a lot about them. Because it's easy to care a lot about abortion access when you're not worried about whether you're going to be able to afford your groceries, when you're not worried about whether you can pay for your mortgage. These are niche issues that only really the wealthy, white, and educated, which happens to be the Democratic Party's new voter base, they get to care about those things. They don't have to worry about their groceries. They don't have to worry about their gas prices.

Everyone else cares a lot about the economy, cares a lot about inflation. And Kamala Harris just is not speaking to those issues. She's not. And I just say this: we don't know how it could go. I could play uh five experts to tell you Trump's gonna win and five will tell you that Uh that Harris is going to win it.

Got it. And you have your own opinions out there. But if the Democrats lose, if the Republicans lose, they're moving on from Trump anyway. To a degree, he'll have influence, but he's not running again.

So you'll have a chance to emerge. If they if Harris loses. You will have drama and soap opera type storylines that you will not believe. Obama, was he too angry putting down blacks? Michelle Obama looked like she was above it all.

Kamala Harris, clearly not good on her feet, refusing to do interviews, press conferences. The bitter Biden sitting in the White House, stabbed in the back, stabbed in the front by the people he thought were his friends. This is going to be a soap opera like we haven't seen before. And I don't know who's standing at the end. Yeah, it's going to be interesting.

I think that that CNN town hall that Kamala Harris did a couple weeks ago with Anderson Cooper, those are going to be the moments from that town hall that Democrats are going to use to prevent her from running again in 2028 if she loses to Trump this time around. I think that this really is the one shot for Kamala Harris because if she loses, she's done. They're not going to let her run again. And so, yeah, I mean, who is left standing? Will it be Josh Shapiro, who has sort of tried to maintain a low profile?

Gretchen Whitman. Michigan, you know, it's going to be interesting to see. Governor of Maryland, the governor of Kentucky Bush here, and just maybe you have somebody emerge and somewhat moderate, center-left, as opposed to way left, or someone pretending to be center-left who is way left, which I think is the craziest thing. Just run who you are. Take a page from Trump on that.

There's no nuance with Trump for better or for worse. Kaylee McGee White will watch you at noon. Is that okay? Yes, yes. All right.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. He reached into a bag. And he pulled out a stuffed commander, the White House dog, and he held it out to Addie, and he went like, He does go on to say with full sentences, I should have known. I know, but but these it sounds a lot more accurate in that little clip.

So what was that? Do you guys play him for something from Jake Tapper? Yeah, that was from yesterday on Jake Tapper.

So Seth Meyer.

So they played a clip from Seth Meyer's new comedy special that's going to be on HBO. And they played he they played the clip of him having a I guess a little you know, not maybe mocking a little bit of Joe Biden, how he speaks. And that was Tapper saying it was it was pretty accurate basically in that short clip when Myers was trying to add on by saying, well, he does Speak more words than just that mumbling. Unbelievable. Uh, I mean, but they never would have done it.

They never would have done that if he was running. I mean, they'd be still telling us he's fine, you know that, right? Yeah, as soon as he dropped out, then all of a sudden the floodgates opened.

So I want to show you in the New York Times today, they're really lamenting the fact in the. Reporting portion of the not the editorial section. It says, this is from Jim Manley. I don't think the comments by the president are going to matter much on election day, but it's incredibly frustrating to watch as the Harris campaign has to spend precious time and energy clarifying what the president was trying to do. Manley went on to say, We're way past the need to be concerned about Biden's feelings.

After all, he dealt her a pretty bad hand when he only finally agreed to drop out with months to go. If the Harris campaign feels the need to distance himself, they should do it. Wow, bad hand as opposed to a gift nomination? Already, the spinning after losing is beginning. I'm not saying she's going to lose.

I'm not saying she's going to win either. But that spin that's ready to go. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kelmead. How do you like my garbage truck?

He was not calling Trump supporters garbage. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. 250 million Americans are not garbage. I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. I have heard from Republicans that there is concern at the Trump campaign that the turnout and enthusiasm numbers aren't where they need to be.

Donald Trump wins comes next week. The signs all along will have been obvious, the right direction being very low, Joe Biden's approval rating being very low, and Republicans really registering numbers. You can't say you weren't warned. And that was, by the way, the warning of CNN data analyst Howard Enton. This hour, we're going to be joined by Josh Krashauer, Fox News political analyst, editor-in-chief of The Jewish Insider.

Also, a quick note to where the candidates are today: the tracker on the trail. Trump is going to be in Albuquerque, New Mexico. What's the signal there? I think he thinks he can win the state. Henderson, Nevada, who's just in Henderson doing a big show later on today.

He's going to finish the day in Glendale, Arizona. Yeah, he's really showing his age. I'm being sarcastic. J.D. Vance participates in a town hall in High Point, North Carolina for Harris, Phoenix, Arizona, Torino, Nevada, to Las Vegas, Nevada.

And Walt, if you're still paying attention to him. Bulks, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania. And he's got another stop in Erie. It's going to be a big day. And we're still looking at the aftermath of Sunday's rally with MSG, but more importantly, what Joe Biden did to derail Kamala Harris in his Zoom call by basically calling Trump supporters trash, made the most of by Donald Trump, who put a reflector vest on, hopped into a garbage truck and told everyone his followers, his voters are not trash.

And that could get people to the polls. Remember, just 45,000 votes in seven battleground states, maybe six. Last cycle delivered the election. To Joe Biden. Howard Kurtz knows all about it, host of Media Buzz on Sundays, 11 to 2.

It's repeated throughout the day. Also, best-selling author. Howard Kurtz, welcome back. Thanks, Brian. How old Kurtz, everybody's talking about Donald Trump's reaction To The trash comment about his voters that he found out about when Marco Rubio was on stage in relatively dramatic fashion.

Do you like what he did yesterday to underline it? Look, Donald Trump riding around in a garbage truck just kind of symbolizes how crazy this campaign is. But, you know, he jumped on this incredible blunder by Biden. I mean, Joe Biden couldn't be undermining Kamala Harris more if he was trying to do it. Last week it was lock him up.

Now it's like Trump supporters are garbage. And then the White House trying to walk it back by saying, oh, no, there's an apostrophe in there. He was only talking about that one comic at the Madison Square Garden rally.

Well, he blew it. I mean, he keeps-I was going to say something I shouldn't say on the radio. He keeps committing these gaffs. It hurts Harris. She kind of distanced herself from him, but she doesn't want to come out and denounce him.

And, you know, Trump is pretty nimble at these things. I mean, he's the guy who went to McDonald's, and there he is. Um using a garbage truck as a symbol of You know, the worst thing you can do in politics is attack the other side's voters. You can say anything you want about the other opponent, but when you start going after voters, you're losing. I think so.

Here is Donald Trump yesterday. He was in a picture of this at home. He's in a garbage truck with a reflector vest cut too. How do you like my garbage truck? This truck is in honor of Kamala and Joe Biden.

So, and he left it on because he said it made him look thinner throughout the appearance. And he gets Bret Favre. Look, the other side has much bigger surrogates. They got Beyonce, they got Willie Nelson. Barack Obama, you could argue as a star.

They're going to have Taylor Swift on Monday. Then you got Bret Favre out there. You got almost every UFC fighter, Dana White, Hulk Hogan. What do you think the surrogates do? I think they draw people to rallies.

You know, who would want to go and see a Bruce Springsteen concert at a Kamala rally? I didn't know Taylor Swift was doing this on Monday, but that'll obviously attract a lot of Swifteys. But, you know, with the exception of Republicans, Who come out for Kamala Harris? Arnold just did that in a lengthy post, former governor of California. He's back, you know.

I don't think it does that much. You've got to go out and win this on your own. And in Kamala Harris's speech, I'm sure you've talked about this at length, it was contradictory. It was a fatal flaw in the speech that almost no one in the media is mentioning, which is she spends the first 15 minutes, Trump is a disaster, he is unchecked power, he's all about his own grievances. And then she turns and tries to pivot and says, Yeah, but you know, I'm the candidate of unity.

I'm going to bring this country together.

Well, you can't do that. You know, try to pull that off if you've just spent many minutes kicking the crap out of the guy. And also, she said some things that weren't true, like he has he will try to. Cut Social Security and Medicare. He was president for four years.

He didn't try at all. But I think she gets so little scrutiny from the media that that didn't make any headlines.

So I'm going to bring you into some moments in the media and just get you to comment on them. Number one, Wookiee Goldberg on The View says something really outlandish, even for The View, cut 36. What we heard. At that rally, Should be enough to shake folks awake. Because he's talking about you, all of you, all of you.

He's talking about you. He's not gonna be s he's not gonna you know say oh you're with a white guy I'm gonna keep you from being deported no he's gonna deport you and put the white guy with someone else the man is out there So he's saying that interracial couples are gonna sh uh send them out and tell white people to marry other people? I don't know where Whoopa gets this stuff. And obviously, the View swooned over Kambala when she appeared on the show, and they all hated her. Trump.

And look, the truth is, there's a lot of hostility, not just on a show like The View, but throughout the media toward Donald Trump. There has been for nine years, and it's been especially acute in the last couple of years. And I've never, ever, even in the Obama campaign of 08, seen such a stark imbalance between gushing, loving coverage of the woman who's been the nominee for three months. And the guy they love to hate, and I say love to hate because he's good for everybody's ratings. What's interesting to me as somebody who's intensively covered the decision by Jeff Bezos at the Washington Post to kill a Harris endorsement, same thing with the biotech mogul who runs the LA Times, is that Trump has seized on this and said what they're really saying is, because they always endorse Democrats, says Trump, is that they can't endorse this Democrat.

And he's right. And especially with Bezos, who has all kinds of business with the federal government, through Amazon, through his rocket company, he doesn't want to tick off Trump anymore. They've got a very tested relationship, and he figures Trump's probably going to win. And he's trying to mend fences. And that's why there has been this uproar in the newsrooms about the killing of those editorials.

Tampa Bay Tribune, USA Today, Washington Post, L.A. Times, Minnesota's major newspaper. I think it's the star of Tribune. I'm not positive. But they all said we're not endorsing anybody.

And I just find it fascinating. Do you think that's a good trend? I personally don't care if they endorse or not. And I think if Jeff Bezos had announced six months ago, you know what, I thought it over and we're not going to endorse, it would have been a blip. But to do it, to drop that stink bomb ten days before the election without really an adequate explanation, I think was a tremendous He's done tremendous damage for the Washington Post.

250,000 canceled subscriptions. That's 10% of the total. I mean, you know, it's just a colossal error. But, you know, newspaper endorsements don't really matter these days. I mean, who reads them?

But I do think it tells you something about the state of journalism.

So I want to talk about, if we can, the rally on Sunday. You were already off the air because before it even started. I hate when that happens. You do hate when it happens because now you got to wait six days to report on it, whatever, if it still makes a cut. But here's what the media said about the rally.

Now, I watched it. I missed the comedian. I saw some clips of him. But I just watched. I said, okay, in and out.

John Scott was doing a good job going in and out, you know, in and out of the rally and keeping us up to date. What's going on in the news? But overall, I thought, man, 5,000 on the outside, 18,000 on the inside. It looked like a love fest. What could go wrong?

Well, obviously, the comedian made everybody incensed. Listen to some of the responses from Waltz, AOC, Mika, and an Navarro Dana Bash, Cut 32. There's a direct parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid-1930s at Madison Square Garden. This was a hate rally. These are mini January 6 rallies.

How did we get here? Where a stadium of people come to hate yesterday's Trump rally from hell. Vile, racist, sexist insults dominated Donald Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden. How could two people see the same rally and think so differently?

Well, I don't want to fall into the trap of saying it was just this one crazy comedian, Tony Hinchcliffe, because people like radio host Sid Rosenberg, he was up there calling Hillary Clinton a Jew hater and talking about low lives and a lot of F-bombs dropped. I do think there was. It it was it was a m uh a misstep. For Trump's team not to know roughly what these people are going to say.

Now, later he said he didn't hear the joke, this by the comedian, and all of that, but it took attention away. You look at the coverage, and maybe this is biased media coverage. The next day, it was all about the racist and misogynist things that have been said by other people who are just minor figures, like we shouldn't even care what they think, and almost no coverage of Trump's two-hour speech.

So, I do think that was a bit of a blunder. But, of course, in this hyper-speed campaign we're in, that gets wiped out by the Kamala speech, which then gets overshadowed by Biden's dumb remark and Kamala having to clean it up.

So, the next day, instead of the story being, you know, she gave a pretty good speech, although again, I think it was fatally flawed, she's trying to. say, well, you know, I wouldn't do that. I'd be president of all the people. Biden really stepped on his vice president. Maybe he's still angry, Brian.

He's just wishing that he was out there. Just to put in perspective, I do think that Elon Musk, Hulk Hogan, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, even Tucker, I thought did a good job. You know, I thought it was like building up to a, hey, look at the people around me now. They're competent people, going to be able to do a really good job from getting people healthy. And the UFC president, Dana White, one of the most successful sports executives.

And Sids goes to Israel and he reports back to the president. I mean, he's really pro-Israel and he's really offended by what's going on at Columbia campuses and the support the left wing is given to this anti-Semitic behavior. But in terms of the comedian, among the people that said, I don't have a problem with it, was Jon Stewart. Listen, cut 33. The opening act, grabbing headlines for all the wrong reasons, a comedian who offered unfunny, racist, cringeworthy jokes.

Basically calling Puerto Ricans Trash, the most repulsive racial jokes about Latinos. Disgusting and hateful.

So incredibly crude. Frankly, just too x-rated to play here. Extremely vile, so-called jokes.

So Jon Stewart played that. And then commented on it.

So I thought he was just going to jump on it and just talk about this comedian not being good. And instead, he goes, I you know, is it me? And I think it was funny. But the question is, should he have been booked? What's your response to that?

Well, comics of the world unite. You know, I mean, anybody who tells jokes for a living is used to having a backlash. Did you go too far? Did you go over the line? And all of that stuff.

So, you know, I salute Jon Stewart for giving an an honest answer. I do think that It's just um You know, we're the media have it's sort of like somebody taps you on the knee and you have the reflex. You know, any little thing that somebody says, any little mistake that somebody says, and sometimes they're big mistakes. And you have this frustration now because the new inflation figures came out and it's just about 2%, which is basically where it should be. But people are still pissed off about higher prices and they're still feeling like economic insecurity.

And so you have these stories now like the economy's doing great. Why don't people understand that? Can't understand. I mean, and this is all the same is always a lag. Which was all last summer when Joe Biden spent $40 million to sell Bidenomics, and at the end of it, he lost polling debts.

I remember that.

So I want you to hear: here's Jon Stewart.

Now obviously in retrospect, having a roast comedian come to a political rally a week before election day and roasting a key voting demographic probably not the best decision by the campaign politically. But to be fair, The guy's really just doing what he does. I mean, here he is at the Tom Brady roast a few months ago. The great Jeff Ross, ladies and gentlemen. Jeff is so Jewish, he only watches football for the coin toss.

Drunk, you look like the Nazi that kept burning himself on the ovens. Kevin is so small that when his ancestors picked cotton, they called it deadlifting. Yes, yes, of course. Terrible boo, yes. There's something wrong with me.

I find that guy very funny.

So I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you.

So that became news, his response, his lack of outrage. And Joe Rogan saying on his podcast yesterday, Brian, that he the comedian Hinchcliffe had run some of these jokes by him and on the one about Puerto Rican being a floating island of garbage. He told him, Don't do this, you're going to get killed.

Well, obviously, he didn't take that advice. You know, it becomes another distraction. You know, what people want to hear about is what are you going to do for the economy? What are you going to do about the border? And while certainly that's been covered to some extent, you know, the media Are chasing ratings and so all this stuff.

I mean, Donald Trump riding around a garbage truck is a brilliant stroke. It's maybe even better than going to McDonald's and cook cooking up the French fries. Howie, you're the expert, but this is my opinion. The reason why it's not Dukakis in a tank is because Dukakis is never in a tank. But the reason why it works with with Trump is because he eats McDonald's.

And the reason why it works for Trump is that those are his people. And him in a truck emphasizing that you're mocking me and my people. Kinda works. And also the working class is seems to be Donald Trump's base. Oh, I agree with all that.

And, you know, the problem with what Biden said is it is an instant replay flashback, flashback to Hillary Clinton talking about voters in 2016 being a basket of deplorables. Again, if you. You want to say terrible things about Trump and talk about January 6th and he's out to settle his grievances and all of that. I interviewed him a week ago and he did not back off, you know, the enemy within and all. That's fine.

But when you start attacking the voters, it shows you don't have much to say really. And you're insulting, you know, with win or lose. You're insulting half the country. And that is, I think the technical term is dumb. Howie, thanks so much.

I mean, this is really a time to see the election, but the coverage is almost as intriguing. And everything's changing now with the Rise of Podcast and the three-hour broadcast.

So fascinating times. Howie Kurtz, thanks so much. Check him on Media Buzz Sunday, two days before the big election, 11 to 12. Thanks, Howie. That's Eastern time.

Back in a moment. Covering this election year like no other. It's Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

Her polling numbers remained stagnant while Biden, I mean, while Donald Trump's numbers surged. And you see, state by state, there were states that were looking at Wisconsin. We never thought that Trump was going to go ahead. And yet, on the polling averages and real clear politics, he is now ahead even there. And so when you look at this, and you look at how he performed in 2016 and 2020, you have to say the momentum is with Donald Trump.

So that is Lee Carter, and I watch her on other channels. He's not signed to Fox, and you should do the same thing. I don't want you to flip off of Fox or go to other channels where. Especially me, Saturday night at uh at nine o'clock till ten. One nation.

But you flip to other channels and see what these analysts are saying. Yeah, you don't care about opinion people unless they've been on the poll, unless they have. They've been to with pollsters, and here's the results. And if you want their opinion about who's winning, okay, but it's all anecdotal. But when she's sitting there with the dials and brings in focus groups, it's so much more educational.

And I watch her say the same thing at CNN as she says here. I think it's telling. Look, I'm never going to say Trump's going to win or Harris is going to win because I don't know. And the analysis was for somebody I know in the NFL. I said, Can you imagine if I told you who's going to win the Super Bowl before the season by only reading Street and Smith's guide, not watching ESPN or going around the training camps?

You go, yeah, that's interesting, Brian, but I don't take it. That's what most people are working off of. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Republicans have been registered.

Voters in big, huge numbers. They have been gaining in party registration versus the Democrats in the swing states with party registration.

So Republicans are putting more Republicans in the electorate. The Democratic number versus the Republican number has shrunk. And so the bottom line is: if Republicans win, Come next week. Donald Trump wins come next week. The signs all along will have been obvious.

We would look at the right direction being very low, Joe Biden's approval rating being very low, and Republicans really registering numbers. You can't say you weren't warned. Howard Enton of CNN, he's done a good job. I don't know him, data analyst, because numbers don't lie. You can't really spin them, you can explain them.

Josh Kreischauer knows this. He lives it. Fox News radio, political analyst, editor-in-chief of the Jewish Insider. Josh, I mean, that was pretty accurate breakdown, right? Just no emotion.

This is the fact, correct? Yeah, I mean, look, Harry's a I I know Harry very well, you know. Objective. The books, a political analyst, and the numbers don't lie, you're right. And look, the numbers are pretty clear.

It's painting a pretty clear portrait of where this election stands, it's extremely close. Trump since the beginning of October has had momentum. The polls pretty much across the board have moved in a Republican direction, moved towards Trump. And we see the Sun Belt states. looking like Trump has an advantage, a small advantage, in Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, even Nevada with some of the early vote data coming out of there.

Uh but these blue wall states, the the Midwestern states, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania still Statistically tied, neck and neck. Harris. Needs to sweep them really to get the win. Trump needs to pick off one of them at least. To get the win on his end.

So I think Trump has more paths right now when you look at the state-by-state data to 270 electoral votes. But Harris is still very much in the game. And when you look at those. those three blue wall states They've gone, except for 2016 when Donald Trump won the election, they've gone Democratic in every election since 1992. Interesting.

So, Josh, if you see. Eric Hovedy in a flat-footed tie now in Wisconsin. He was unknown. Really unknown. And then you have Rodgers with a great resume in a Democratic state like Michigan.

He was on today and he said in his first poll ever, he's leading. I got to find out what that poll was, but the other one had him down one.

So he's in vicinity. If you look at those two races, and then you look in Pennsylvania, where McCormick is sometimes tied, sometimes off just a point with Casey, the most famous name in Pennsylvania politics with his dad and him, who's had that job for, I think, 16 years, 18 years.

So I'm wondering, what does that mean to you for the presidential? Because usually if that Republican ticket is popular, that helps get these purple states over the finish line. That's right, Brian. And we've been talking a lot about these Senate races, and I've said that. Don't look at the polling in the summer because people don't start paying attention until the fall, and then they actually pay attention to who these candidates are.

The Senate races I think are actually going to track very closely to the presidential races.

So even if you see in the summer, an incumbent winning by eight points, more and more people as they tune in, as they vote kind of on a partisan basis, are going to line up with the Republican challengers in these key states, in these key races. That's what we're seeing in all three of these Midwestern battlegrounds. Where Dave McCormick has been rapidly catching up to Bob Casey as more Republicans tune in. Same with Eric Hovde in Wisconsin. Same with Mike Rogers in Michigan.

These races are all pretty much tied, both at the presidential level and at the Senate level. I think whoever, if Trump wins those blue wall states, if he has a big night and decisively wins those states, I would not be surprised at all to see Republicans sweep those Senate battlegrounds and perhaps even get to 54 Senate seats. That's a pretty healthy Senate majority as well. But if Harris wins, I think the Democratic incumbents will also have the same coattail.

So I think a lot of these Senate races increasingly are not depending on sort of the individual name brands of the candidates or the campaigns themselves. It's more are you on the red team or the blue team? And if Trump has momentum and wins these states, I think Dave McCormick, Eric Hofde and Mike Rogers are going to do quite well.

So here is the.

So Kamala Harris comes out and makes this big address, or closing arguments at the ellipse. Guess who's stuck on the inside, not invited? It is Joe Biden. And he's on a Zoom call, and now I'm sure they're going to take his password away. And he says, one of his comments, when asked about a comedian's joke at Madison Square Garden, he said.

I don't know the Puerto Rican that I know or a Puerto Rican where I'm from, from my home state of Delaware. They're good, honorable people. Not the one he was talking about. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. And after that, it's nonstop backpedaling.

It's one of those things where you call Donald Trump a horrible name. Obviously, it doesn't matter because they call him the worst, fascist, Hitler, everything, dictator. And now, but this seems to be a big deal. And Harris immediately goes, you know, it's a big deal. When she goes out of her way to talk to people and goes to the microphone, here's Cut 14.

First of all, I think that the president has explained what he meant. But I've said it earlier. I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. And I've made that clear throughout my career, including my speech last night before I think this all happened. And everyone is scrambling in her camp, and Joe Biden put.

Out something that moderately walks back his statement. Your thoughts about how big a deal this is today. My first reaction, Brian, was why the heck is President Biden On a Zoom call during this what's supposed what was supposed to be one of the biggest closing type addresses for Kamala Harris's campaign in the nation's capital. That's how he wanted every Democrat to pay attention to Kamala Harris. And Joe Biden's doing some Kakamami Zoom call, not only stepping on the Vice President's message, but taking attention away from what was supposed to be the big event.

That evening. Look, it's a major blunder. It's a self-inflicted wound. And, you know, when the actions of the vice president show she's trying to do cleanup the next day on camera, distancing herself from the sitting president, that's not good. That is a political setback.

And it underscores, I mean, the Democrats were hoping to make light of what happened at the MSG rally, the shock jock comic, who made the offensive comments to Puerto Ricans. They were hoping to close with that message in the final week. You're not hearing that anymore because every time they mention the word garbage, it actually reminds you more of Joe Biden, you know, calling Trump supporters garbage. And that's neutralized that opportunity they thought they had in the closing week of the Harris campaign. You know, I note surrogates aren't supposed to matter that much.

Beyonce's out there. I'm sure Taylor Swift is coming out. I heard on Monday. You got the big stars. You had Robert De Niro perpetually angry, does bad movies, but is a great actor.

Then you have all these guys, Leo DiCaprio. But I think that when you have Brett. Farr of stand up in Green Bay and say, for the first time in my career, I'm supporting somebody, and he gets the ovation he got. And then he stays and he gives her additional remarks for Trump. Do you think that might buck the trend that surrogates don't matter or endorsements don't matter?

Look, I mean, Brett Favre's a great validator. I watched actually quite a bit of that event last night, which Trump carried the jack. I mean, it was an effective speech by Brett Favre, and it was an effective speech by Trump is on his game. He's really focused, I can tell, in the last week. Look, I think generally, I don't think surrogates make a whole lot of difference.

Brett Favre in Green Bay, though, that's one. Green Bay, by the way, Brian, is one of the most competitive, like the battleground part of Wisconsin. It's one of the swingier parts of the state.

So there may be a number of persuadable voters who are still undecided. And if Brett Favre being on the local news, endorsing Trump makes an impact, it could affect a small number of voters in Missouri. Right.

He's as good as it gets. And I just think him wearing the vest. If you want to take a sound bite, you have to explain the vest. If so, if you you know, Donald Trump in a garbage truck, why would a billionaire be in a garbage truck?

Well, it's for the brand. I w my they're calling me garbage, they're calling us trash. And we have you know, we had Pete Hagseth over at a at a diner. In Michigan, and there was probably 800 people there, and now they say I'm a deplorable. I think there's gonna be some T-shirts today that says I'm trash.

Tony DeCoppa on CBS to Tim Woss. He asked if the Nazi comparisons and Biden's garbage comment undercut Harris's message of unity.

So, KJP. Taking questions from normally friendly members of the media. Does the President really think all Trump voters are trash?

So that to me is if I say it and you say it, and certain columnists write it, okay, they gotta deal with it. But when they, everywhere they turn, they're forced to explain it, and they didn't say it, only Joe Biden did, that to me is lingering. Yeah, I mean, Brian, not a lot of news manages to break through sort of the fractured media landscape we're in now. That Broke through. I saw it all over social media.

Everyone wanted to see Donald Trump on both sides. They were showing the video of Trump in the truck. Um, it plays well. Trump is a master of understanding what images play well. I mean, that's his whole career, and he has an instinctive knack for this stuff, and it's showing.

Uh, like I said, like he's been off message quite a bit. We've talked about that throughout the campaign. He's on message this week as the closing week of the campaign comes upon us. Um I also have a lot of 2016 vibes from this election. I've been saying this for the last couple of weeks.

Hillary, I even saw Huma Abedin today say she thinks Kamala is like embracing the Hillary message of 2016, that she's kind of taking the football and run with it, which is not what you want to say politically. Did she know what she was saying? No, I was I was shocked, David. It was on on another, you know, it was on a liberal network and uh I was shocked. Shocked to hear that because I'm getting those same vibes, but it's not good for Kamala Harris.

It's trying to say Trump is a fascist, an extremist, which was the Hillary message in 2016. It's running on identity, which was a mistake for Hillary in 2016, and it's being now repeated by Harris. Yeah, and I think, you know, Hillary tried to run up the score in the suburbs, but she totally neglected the working-class voters, which is why she lost Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. And I'm seeing a very similar dynamic in the polling right now and the on-the-ground reporting we've been doing.

So very, very similar dynamic, I think, to 2016. And yeah, I mean, when you even have the, you know, one of Clinton's Top allies saying that, it just strikes home even more. Josh, I just a couple of things.

So, for people who think, well, Joe Biden is older than dirt and he makes statements, and there's a reason why he's not the candidate. But if you go back and look at what he said in 2023, the MAGA threat is a threat to the brick and mortar of our democracy. The MAGA threat didn't say the Trump threat. The extreme MAGA Republicans don't just threaten our personal and economic rights. They embrace political violence.

Not just Trump. The MEGA MAGA Republicans who think that it's right to threaten violence. That's not inappropriate. MAGA Republicans, the extreme right, and the Trumpers.

Okay. So this has been out there, and I'm wondering what people who wear their red hats or are afraid to wear their red hats feel about being labeled an outcast in their country by a president who said he was going to bring us together. The problem is, it's not an anomaly, is my point. It's not just Joe Biden said something he shouldn't have. He's been saying it since 2022.

This is purely anecdotal, but in my pretty blue neighborhood outside of Washington DC, I've never saw Trump signs 2016, 2020. Almost impossible to find.

Now, even though this area is going to go very Democratic, a lot of Trump signs. People are not afraid to showcase their support for Donald Trump. And I think I've been hearing that across the country, like even in bluer areas that are not going to vote for Trump. But the people who are Republicans who are going to vote for Trump are much more they understand that this administration has not been effective. And they are much more eager to show their support for Donald Trump.

It's much become a much more conventional thing to do.

So that is, I think, a very telling sign, and I think it may be foreshadowing what we're going to see on election night. And I just wanted to hear Ron DeSantis, who just reminded everybody that he bleeds competence when you see the way he handled two hurricanes in three weeks. And now he's going to bat for these propositions on his ballot on Tuesday. But he was asked about these comments and about why Harris is being linked to them, Cut 11. She had opportunities to distance herself from Joe Biden's administration.

I mean, obviously, she's V, but she could have said she disagrees with the border policy. She disagrees with 13 Americans being killed in Afghanistan. And yet, she says there's not a single thing that comes to mind that she would have done different. And so these guys are stepping in it, and I think it's going to end up making a difference. And you said, you know, him and Trump are cursory.

They get along, but they're never going to be tight again. And I think that's a good analysis. And if they do lose, if Harris does lose, that's where it starts. And I don't know who survives. Biden fractures with Harris.

Biden has already fractured with Obama. I don't think Clinton's Obama's ever been tight. Nancy Pelosi in her late 70s or 80s, she's the one who actually started. The Biden ouster, and then the celebrity culture led by George Clooney. And I don't know who's left standing.

I mean, I would love to see a Democratic Party who was center-left, legitimately, not just rhetorically, like Shapiro, like I think Bashir seems to be. Then I think we go back to a more. A more interesting, traditional campaign. Final thought? Yeah, I mean, look, Harris is I think if Harris doesn't win this election, we're going to look back at her rhetoric and positions in the 2020 campaign that have come back to haunt her and she has not at all distanced herself from them in a substantive in a stylistic way, yes, in a substantive way.

The fact that she's reassuring You know, people who work in the energy industry in Pennsylvania that she's not going to ban fracking. Yes, she said that, but it doesn't seem like her heart is in it. And she really needed to shed that progressive label a whole lot more aggressively. And look, that's who she is, Brian. I mean, she has been a progressive pretty much her entire career from California, from her campaign.

That is what's in her guts, and it's hard for her to kind of recreate a new persona with just months before an election. See, what I would love to do, and I think Trump is there. I think Trump, you're going to have one.

Some days you're going to hop on if he wins again. And you're going to go, you know, I'm forgetting even what party he's in. But you know, because he's not running for reelection, he's not going to do any much campaigning unless he has to to save the House or Senate for his last two years. And I think he's going to be fixing things or putting into programs. And like, for example, do you really think if Elon Musk is his key aide, that he's going to destroy the electric car business?

No. What he's going to do is, okay, guys, I got a lesson in subsidies. Go out there and market your car, get a great commercial, make a great product. That's where I want to get back to. Final thought, Josh.

I know I told you before, but that'll be it. Yeah, no. I mean, look, and Trump has actually been politically effective in kind of telling different groups what I think they want to hear. I think the big test, if Trump does get elected, is how is he going to govern? Who is he going to sign?

I mean, he has been building something of a big tent. If the polling is accurate, he's picked off a whole lot of traditionally Democratic constituencies, made inroads, and that's going to be a big story. The question is: what do you do as president? How do you appeal and keep that big tent alive? Josh Trasher, it was a fascinating time, Josh.

I could hear the passion in your voice. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks, Brian. All right. From Fort Lauderdale to South Bend to Philadelphia to Clarion, Pennsylvania.

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How do you like my garbage truck? He was not calling Trump supporters garbage. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. 250 million Americans are not garbage. I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for.

I have heard from Republicans that there is concern at the Trump campaign that the turnout and enthusiasm numbers aren't where they need to be. If Donald Trump wins comes next week, the signs all along will have been obvious, the right direction being very low, Joe Biden's approval rating being very low, and Republicans really registering numbers. You can't say you weren't warned. There you go, and that was guys from CNN. And I'm saying he could win.

I know she could win. I would be surprised if she won. How about that? Because just by the momentum and her performance, there are certain people that come on the scene. Barack Obama won out and won that election.

I remember Bill Clinton, I was doing half sports, half news at the time. He beat a sitting president with an unbelievable resume in George H.W. Bush. He won the election despite the scandal.

So I think Donald Trump won the election over the favorite by far Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden didn't win his election. We had a pandemic, and that was against Trump. She has emerged and can read a prompter. But has not been the candidate that people thought she could possibly have been in 2000, that they feared that she was like this when she was vice president from 2021 to 2024, and then she suddenly got the nomination.

This hour, it's going to be our privilege to have Prime Minister, former Prime Minister of Britain in studio Boris Johnson. That'll be great. And Steph Kite will be with us, Axio's political reporter in a matter of moments. Just a quick update on where everybody's going to be today. It's very interesting.

Because Donald Trump's going to be in New Mexico to start the day. Isn't that kind of cool? That's your tracker. He's going to be in Mexico to start the day. Then he's going to go to the battlegrounds right after, which you understand.

But for the most part, you have them going to Pennsylvania. You have Harris starting in Phoenix, Arizona, then going to Reno, Nevada, then to Las Vegas. I think they're getting nervous about Nevada, and they should, especially with the early voting coming in so strong. Waltz is going to spend the day in three different locations in Pennsylvania. Trump is going to start in Albuquerque at 2 o'clock today.

And Henderson, Nevada. It looks like six thirty. And then at ten o'clock, he'll be in Glendale, Arizona. Oh, he sounds so exhausted, doesn't he? Big early voting, about fifty million out there already.

Pretty encouraging. Steph Kite of Axios. Welcome back to the Brian Kill Me Show. Steph? Do you think the Sunday event with the questionable comedian at MSG will have legs?

Or do you think they'll have more sustainably will be Joe Biden's remarks? calling all Trump supporters trash. I mean look. The remarks from the comedian certainly hit a mark, and in the hours and days following that, there was definitely a lot of concern that that could have distanced some Puerto Rican and other Latino voters from the Trump campaign. But you know, I do think Biden's comments in response to that really gave the Trump campaign and Trump supporters an opportunity to change the narrative around it.

And it did, once again, make Democrats more vulnerable playing defense when they had just had a moment where they could have gone after Trump for inviting someone like the comedian to his rally.

So, you know, I think it could have had an impact if it wasn't for Biden kind of weighing in and seeming to disparage Trump supporters the way he did. And do you think fundamentally the problem was that she did not do enough, and I know it's complicated, to distance herself from Joe Biden.

So it's not just the lame duck president making some comments on a Zoom call when she says that we're linked and we have the same, you know, we have the same. Objectives. I wouldn't have done anything different, and I'm going to look to continue, but not continue making a second term for Joe Biden. Therefore, the link is pretty firm. You know, I think it's been really interesting to watch the way Harris has navigated the Biden question, right?

Because in some instances, she does seem to be uncomfortable fully distancing herself from President Biden. And she, you know, will praise his time in office. She is the vice president. That creates an interesting dynamic there. But at the same time, she also has taken some steps to distance herself from President Biden.

Her campaign has not invited Biden to join them on the campaign trail. She has not appeared with Biden at her own rallies. She really has kept him at arm's length. And as Actios reported recently, even when the Biden White House has offered time slots to the Harris campaign to allow him to come and campaign with her, the Harris campaign has essentially told them, you know, we'll get back to you and not taking them up on it.

So it will be interesting to see whether voters do end up seeing Harris as a continuation of the Biden administration or if some of her efforts to kind Of keep him on the sidelines helps distance her and win over some voters who maybe are looking for something different.

So she came out and she said, I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. Said a couple of different times. And then she was asked about, well, you want to be a unifier, reach across party lines. This is from ABC, Cut 15. You are Promising to bring people together, even people you disagree with, you say, well, have a seat at the table.

How do you convince Trump supporters of that, though, when you're calling their candidate a would-be dictator, a petty tyrant? I am talking to everyone as an American, regardless of who they voted for in the last election. Again, uh these are the worst answers. I mean, she never seems to revel in the unscripted situation. She wants to get through it.

It's true. But we have seen her repeatedly very uncomfortable asking or answering direct questions that are presented to her from the media. And it's something that her team has been nervous about for a long time. And it seems to indicate why it took so long for us to see Harris sit down for interviews with the press. It's only been in the past couple of weeks that we've really seen her start to make efforts sitting down with podcasters, going on network shows, et cetera.

And it hasn't always been a stellar performance. She is uncomfortable answering some questions. She's now kind of infamous for the word salad kind of answer to some of these things. And it is a real vulnerability for her because Americans want to hear clearly where she stands for, where she stands on issues. But it's clear that they are really leaning on the strategy of her being the anti-Trump candidate, very similar to what we saw in 2020.

Democrats are hoping that opposition to former President Trump will be enough to get Harris across the finish line. Just noticed this tone. Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, they do not seem like happy warriors. They seem very angry that Donald Trump's even in the race, that he's even being considered. And in Michelle Obama's case, that she has to do this, that she doesn't want to do it.

So Donald Trump brought all that up over the weekend. And of course, Barack Obama's been asked to do a ton of stuff. Joe Biden, nothing, as you mentioned. Here's Trump on the garbage comments last night in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where his opener was Brett Favre's endorsement. Cut one.

$200. 150 million Americans are not garbage. This week, Kamala. Has been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass murderers in history. And now, speaking on a call for her campaign last night, crooked Joe Biden finally said.

What he and Kamala really think of our supporters, he called them garbage, no way. This crowd was buying into it. We had this huge diner crowd today. They're taking the word like it's deplorable. They made that universal.

They made t-shirts and signs on it. You still see a lot of them.

So I get the sense that this might have some legs, and I know Trump's not going to stop bringing it up. Yeah.

And again, the Trump campaign was on defense over the racist comments that were made at the rally. And, you know, Biden presented an opportunity and Trump has taken that opportunity. And it's been a smart campaign response to kind of own the garbage tone. You know, you mentioned the Basket of Deplorables moment from 2016. And it does feel very similar to the reaction to those comments.

And, you know, it is unfortunate for the Harris campaign that those comments came after Harris's big speech, where she really emphasized reaching across the aisle and being the candidate for all Americans. And then to have President Biden, she is still vice president, to have him say something that is the fair chain of Trump supporters only hurts that. And the Trump campaign has pounced. And, you know, they're going to continue making that part of their final argument in these last few days.

So, Steph Keits, our guest from Axios. Steph, now there's a big push to find out why they changed the White House transcripts when they released the President's Zoom call. And they changed the verbiage.

Now they moved the apostrophe. And they said he didn't, they didn't, you know, they changed what he actually said. And now you have Elise Stefanik and James Comer or co-in the White House counsel said: instead of apologizing, clarify President Biden's words why you changed the transcript and how many other transcripts have been changed because of maybe mistakes that he has made. Is that a big deal to you? Because don't you do reports off those transcripts when you can't be there?

Don't you say, hey, I need to know what the president said today? And don't you just trust that it's right? Yeah, I mean, we definitely want to make sure that those transcripts are accurate. And, you know, there was video footage, of course, of what Biden said.

So we are able to go back and see what he said there. And, you know, there could be a question of whether, you know, is that an apostrophe? Is it plural? It is an interesting, you know, a tricky situation there. But of course, it is interesting that they tried to kind of use the apostrophe S to indicate that, oh, maybe Biden wasn't talking about Trump supporters.

It was specifically talking about the comedian. And Axios did reach out and ask, you know, why they were so sure that it was an apostrophe S. And we basically were not given a question. The Biden took source and asked to go off the record to us, and we declined. And the White House refused to respond further.

So it is something that we are asking questions about. And it's tricky, it's nuanced. But you do want to make sure that official transcripts from the sitting president of the United States are accurate and not being manipulated for political purposes. A couple of things. Nikki Haley came out.

You know, she got 100 plus thousand, 160,000 votes in Pennsylvania. when she was going for the nomination. And she was out there campaigning with McCormick, with Dave McCormick, because they're unable to work a deal, I guess, with Trump. She said her message is pretty clear. She goes, I know it's noisy out there, her way of saying Donald Trump says a lot of stuff.

When I tell you to take the emotion out of it and focus on the policies, because Dave McCormick can't win if we don't elect Donald Trump at the top of the ticket. But he understands we've got to get this economy turned around. He understands that we have to fight on what happens across the border. He understands that we have to have energy dominance. And he understands we can't have any more wars.

So the message is clear. What do you think is going on behind the scenes? You just can't get Haley with Trump. Yeah, I mean, it is very interesting that Trump and his campaign have not taken Haley up on her repeated offer to campaign with them. You know, she's gone on Fox instead that she would be happy to get on the trail, that she's on standby, willing to work with Trump, and she has kind of given her advice to the campaign publicly.

Of course, there is definitely a history there, a combative history between the two of them. She was the last person to drop out of the primary. She really was pushing back against Trump for a long time. And we all know that the former president can hold grudges. He is known to forgive and Lego when it suits him, but he also does hold grudges when he feels like people are disloyal to him.

And so, you know, the expectation is that that's part of what's at play here.

So very interesting that Joe Rogan still hasn't said who he's voting for, but gave Trump three hours. Clearly, they got along. Did not surprise me.

So Harris said, we want to do it. But then they put all types of demands in play. Rogan talked about it, Cut 21. Mm-hmm. She actually reached out when she found out that he was coming on.

So their camp reached out to me.

So I said, great, I would love to talk to her. But it was very difficult to tie it down and a lot of they wanted to travel. And see the the thing is, like, you can't if if I go somewhere, then there's gonna be other people in the room. And they want to control a lot of things, I'm sure. According to the Brett Breyer interview on Fox, people were waving them off.

That's a distraction. People in the room, like my whole goal with her and with him, is just talk, just have a conversation like a human being. You find out things about people. You get a sense of them, at least. A real sense.

That was it. I don't give a f what we talk about. I really don't. I just I just want to talk to you. Who the f are you?

That's it. And she won't do it. And I think it's a huge move. I think the Al Smith did an unforced error. And if you ever listen to him, Steph, he he's not confrontational.

He'll follow up on questions directly. But this would have been a plus. If she really wants to get back men, most of his audience is men. Why not do it? I mean, you know, to their credit, it does seem like they were interested and reached out to Joe Rogan because they were taking the initiative, wanting to go on.

You know, I don't know the details here about what actually went down over the interview. Of course, she still has a campaign schedule and she's also sitting vice president.

So I'm not sure of the details, but I think you're right that it would have been a really good opportunity for Harris to kind of speak to a demographic that she isn't winning the way that former President Trump is. It would have been an opportunity for her to speak to two men, to a new demographic of voters who she needs to win over if she's going to win the election next week. And so I don't know if we're going to hear any more about the fallout there, but it is interesting that that didn't end up panning out.

Well, the Senate, if there's going to be an uptick in the Senate, do you think it's going to be Texas? Do you think it could be Nebraska? I mean, we'll see. Nebraska is certainly looking interesting. It's clear that there is some concern from Republicans that Deb Fisher is in jeopardy.

You know, just looking at the fact that McConnell Senate Leadership Fund has had to spend pretty big in that race at the last minute, that's definitely an indication that I felt like that Republicans feel like that's a race they need to shore up for sure. And, you know, Texas is also looking closer than it has been. I don't know whether this is the year that Democrats finally are able to flip a statewide seat blue. It's still going to be an uphill climb for Allred. Allred has certainly proven to be a strong candidate for Democrats.

And Cruz has had to really campaign and really fundraise and take it seriously this time around. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Steph Kai, thanks so much. Thank you. All right, Axios, one of great political reporters.

When we come back, we'll take some calls. 1866-408-7669. Then welcome in the Prime Minister, the former Prime Minister of England, Barris Johnson. Don't move. Hear the ins and outs of the 2024 election right here.

The Brian Kill Meet Show. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. I see this race so close and I'm really watching Pennsylvania. I believe President Trump wins North Carolina, Georgia.

He can win Arizona and Nevada, but he still will not be president. It's electoral college. And in the last election, Biden won by less than 50,000 Americans decided the outcome of more than 150 million votes.

So really, at this moment in time, if you want to have a change in direction, if you live in Pennsylvania, you really have a bigger say than a one vote. And then, of course, that would probably bring Dave McCormick over Casey and have more of a majority in the Senate.

So far in the Senate, you know that it's going to be. Uh, the governor of West Virginia will take over. That was that's a done deal. Tim Sheehee is uh up five or six points in almost every poll, so that's two. They have to hold on to Deb Fisher's seat, hold on to Ted Cruz's seat, and then you have places like Eric Hove D in Wisconsin, then you have plays like Mike Rogers in Michigan, and then you have Dave McCormick.

It's amazing the ripple effect. If Trump wins, you could see him dragging all three of those across, including those. Uh, you know, Ted Cruz, I think, would be fine, but by all people in Texas, tell me, but it's just going to be three points. Having said that, Imagine having four or five Senate cushion. For the Murkowskis of the world and the Susan Collins of the world to get things done in a single one-term president, it will be.

Almost a lame duck right away. It's going to be really, really interesting to see how all these two close and what happens. And with Kev McCarthy, he's a tactician, more than a conservative, more than a moderate, he's a tactician. He's just looking at the numbers. You got to win in Pennsylvania.

So you take Arizona and Georgia, it's not going to be enough. You got to take Nevada, you got to, or take Pennsylvania, would have the most electoral votes out of all of them. You've been to that state? It is uh it is just huge. The president can do it.

I think he's got to go there, say to that, play mistake-free football, go back to Philadelphia, see if he can get some of the urban vote, lock up some of that, make sure the farming vote stays with you, and then see what happens. When we come back, a guy knows a lot about winning votes, but only in the UK, who was actually born here, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and leader of the Conservative Party, Boris Johnson, in studio. He's got a brand new book out. It's excellent. It's called Unleashed.

He's in studio next. He's so busy, he'll make your hat spin. It's Brian Killmead. Hey, welcome back, everyone. It's my privilege to bring in a guy that's got a brand new book out.

You got to pick it up. Former Prime Minister of the UK. He's leader of the Conservative Party, author of a brand new book called Unleashed. It's really the story of his life, memoir, brings you up to date on what's happening when he was in power, his rise to power, all the different things he's done in his illustrious career. He's one of these world leaders who you think to yourself, I got to have a beer with this guy.

And I'm lucky to have him in the studio, Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Great to see you. It's a real honor to be here today. Right, I mean, thank you for having me on. I mean, you were in the real world.

You were a broadcaster, a host, writer. And then you go, you know, let me go run for mayor. I did. I had a midlife crisis. I felt I was being so abusive towards all these politicians.

I don't know whether you have you ever felt this? And it's kind of a wonderful privilege thing to be a journalist. I love journalism. I absolutely love journalism. But you're always critiquing.

You're always critiquing. You're always chucking rotten tomatoes at these guys. And after a while, I think, well, maybe I should have a go. Right.

And so you get the great the bug. The virus enters the bloodstream. And then I won, yeah, then I won. And then I won this thing that nobody thought I could win. Mayor of London.

Yeah, and I which because everybody thought that was a Labour city, that was a left-wing city. And I tell the story in the book of some of the things we did. And I. I was very proud of it. And then it all kind of snowballed from that.

So what I was doing is, between me, I go on the train, I'm reading your book, and then when I have to go to work out, I go, I got to listen to the book.

So I've gotten a lot of revenue into the Boris Johnson family. I'm assuming. I bought the book on Take and the book. Right, I'm deeply in there. It'll be a big turkey for Christmas as we go to the Johnson family.

But you guys don't celebrate Thanksgiving, though, do you? No, we don't. We had turkey at Christmas. You guys had turkey at Thanksgiving. Yes.

Okay, okay.

Well, that's okay. Let me rephrase that. It'll be a big, it'll be a big turkey. Here's what surprised me. You would.

We have the same philosophy, not that that should be a great moment for you, but you just talk about people getting opportunity. Level up, I believe. And you talk about, you know, you do so great in school, and you're doing great, and you have opportunities, your family has some money. And you think to yourself, instead of taking those people with great opportunities, I don't want to prick them out of their schools. I want to give other people the opportunity to be successful in those schools.

Correct. That's just it. And that's why you got into politics. Totally right. Because I think I've got some abilities, but I also keenly aware of my limitations, right?

And I think that there are people around the population, it is full of genius and talent. Ms. Prime Minister, would you talk into the microphone? Natural, can you hear me now? Natural mathematical talent, natural brilliance, natural artistic talents, natural energy.

It's everywhere. But they're not getting opportunities. And they're not getting the opportunities. And so that really, and that's so stupid. It's morally wrong, but it's also economically dumb.

It's mad. Right.

You know, so in a country like the UK, we've 67 million people, but so much of the productivity is in London and the Southeast. States, you've got amazing, rich, varied sameness, right? You've got, you've got, okay, you've got pockets of, I guess, where people achieve less, but you've got every state has a great university, every state has a tech sector or something, right? You get the schools, you know, and people can rise from wherever they everywhere. And that's that's a fantastic thing.

And and I think in a way And you feel like you did that with London. I don't bring that.

So so I I I want I wanted to and I think there are some things that the state has got to do, like putting in decent transport, you know, because it's difficult to get the private sector to do. De you know, decent education. Skills, you've got to, and then get the private sector. Give people hope, give them opportunity, show you care, and show them that they can. Rather than keep telling them that this is an area of underachievement and deprivation because that's miserable.

Because then you get into a cycle of negativity. Right.

You don't walk around like a perfect person. Even in your book, you put yourself down. This was a mistake. I shouldn't have talked to you. Why am I here?

Brian, talking to you. Instead of running a contract. Instead of running the country. We have to face the terrifying reality that, you know, if I'd been as brilliant as I thought I was, I would still be running the UK. Right.

And I failed to. But you wouldn't have got a chance to meet me, so it's an equal exchange. That's right. I was miserable to talk to you. But here's what I like about the common thread, and you write it.

But Trump's election. was a pushback on the establishment. And he's even though he's a billionaire, blue-collar people like him. Brexit is happening. And you say it's a pushback on the establishment.

Screw you. I don't want to be part of the EU. And I want to have my opportunity. I don't care how many rich people, powerful people, say what a bad move that is. But these people are standing up and they're speaking out.

I love Brexit. I love people who believe in their own freedom. And I do, and I think that was the point.

Well, no, and I and I think that the I this is an amazing country, right, the United States. The United States never shares uh its sovereignty. anybody, right? The United States doesn't subscribe to the International Criminal Court, the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. It doesn't even sign up to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

There's a big fear here of a world government. Yeah, right. But you see, I think we need to think about that love of freedom that there is in the United States and that the willingness to be different. And, Mr. Prime Minister, isn't that why the pushback in the pandemic was so strong?

Because you're telling me to go get a vaccine? You're telling me to wear a mask? You're telling me not to go to school? You guys did the same thing, and then you got it and almost died. It was a nightmare.

It was a nightmare. The COVID thing was a total nightmare because. You know, we were forced, every government, even, even, even in. The US governments were forced by the horror of the pandemic to do things that went deeply against our own instincts. I if you told me that one of the first things I was going to have to do as Prime Minister when I got elected with a huge majority in twenty nineteen was close down the country You know, it was terrible.

It was absolutely terrible. Right.

And you almost died, right? Yeah, I did. I was in a bad way. I was in a bad way. But, but thankfully, thanks to the wonderful nurses and doctors of the NHS.

I was fine. You bounced. And, you know, loads of people had it much, much worse than me.

So, what do you think of, and we have so much to talk about in your book because you have such a great career. It's not done. I mean, I don't see many of you guys doing the type Donald Trump-like comebacks. Because, you know, when Tony Blair's done, it's like he's done. When David Cameron's done, he's done.

Yeah.

Even though he's a friend of yours. Is Boris Johnson going to have another redux? But first on Donald Trump, you saw him a couple of weeks ago, or you saw him a couple of months ago? I did, yeah. No, I what do you think about this?

Do you want to talk to me? I think, well, so the great convention is that, you know. Donald or Carmela Harris wouldn't come to the UK and and and get involved in our elections and and we don't we don't Conventionally, talk about who we want to win. But, you know, there's I'm a human being, right? And all human beings are.

I had a good relationship with him. With Downtown. Yeah.

And Um I People who are liberal friends of mine in the UK kind of freak out when I say this, but I enjoyed. He's coming in. Do you like him as a person or do you like him as a leader? Do you like him as a leader?

So he is a terrible thing. You know, I'm going to confess that I both. Right? I've always found him the model of kind of old world courtesy and charm. And you know, everybody says you out of your tiny mind, you know.

And because that's not all the that's but that's how I that I can only say what I si what I see, right? And uh as a leader, As somebody who had to take some tough decisions when he was in the in the White House. Look, what does the world need now, Brown? The world needs a strong America. The world needs strong American leadership.

And it is simply the case that when Donald Trump was in the White House, and I was Foreign Secretary and then Prime Minister. you know, we we had far fewer problems with in the Middle East, we had far fewer problems in Uh in with Russia. I mean, Russia was a nightmare, but T but Trump was strong. I knew exactly where he stood. You knew where he stood.

Oh, he's gonna he's gonna chicken out. He's gonna chicken out and give up the Ukrainians, right? And he's I don't know what you think, and I'd love to. I do. Here's the thing: I loved that you were the first over there.

I am for Ukraine. Good for you. I am absolutely 100% in. In fact, here's Boris Johnson addressing the Ukrainian parliament. Ukrainian democracy against Putin's tyranny.

It's about freedom versus oppression. It's about right versus wrong. It's about good versus evil. And that is why. Ukraine must win.

When we look at the heroism of the Ukrainian people and the bravery. of your leader Vladimir Zelensky, we know that Ukraine will win. And we in the UK will do everything we can To restore a free, sovereign and independent Ukraine. Thank you all very much for listening to me today. And Slava, Ukraine.

I love it. Was your country behind you on that? Yeah, totally. And the UK has been extraordinarily strong in its support for Ukraine. Right from the beginning, you'll see Ukrainian flags in shops, on people's lapel pins.

I don't know why, it's something that really moved the spirit of the British people. But your new guy doesn't. Is he is he is the labor guy? Possibly we're not doing as much now as we as we could, and that makes me sad. Simply do some easy things, the things that cost them.

Let them restrict weapons, correct? I mean, sorry, but what are we doing? You must deal with Joe Biden. It must be frustrating for you, is it? I don't understand.

So, at every stage, it's so look, I mean, first thing to say is that the Biden White House actually. Did very, very well in contributing a lot to slow. It was always slow. What did Obama do to get ready for it? On the contrary, and here's the thing that nobody ever says, but I will say it because it's true.

Who actually gave the Ukrainians the The javelins. Don Trump. Right? So you got to fight for yourself. Not blankets and M R E's.

And he gave no, but he so he so he b so he broke the taboo. He gave he gave them the kit they needed to defend themselves. And and so so that's one of the reasons why I think that You know, if and when he wins. I I don't see him Capitulating to Putin. I don't see the United States allowing Putin to take.

How many times have you met Putin? I think once. What'd you thought? What are your thoughts? He was a.

He's small, sort of elfy. He looks a little bit like a character. He jacked up his face with all types of. Lord of the Rings. Does he look like he's had work on him?

Don't you think so? I don't know. Did you see the guy was he just detached? No, I look I see a a a a very in ingenious Kremlin tyrant who is committed to his own self preservation. And he invaded Ukraine, basically 'cause he'd been in power for twenty years in in Moscow.

And he he wanted a a a war of that would That would excite national support. And he was deranged, he's demented. He thought that the Ukrainians would surrender and. Become part of the Russian Empire. They have, and they fought better than we could ever imagine.

Without a navy, they blew up the Russian Navy. They have control of a large part of the Black Sea. They've done even more. But now, what do you do, Prime Minister? We're talking to former Prime Minister of the UK, Boris Johnson.

His book is Unleashed Is Out. You've got to grab it to get a real perspective on the world from outside and inside. Grab it before he grabs you. Born here. That's true.

That's a good slogan, by the way, if you want to use it. But, Mr. Prime Minister, I mean, now they use North Koreans. I mean, they're actually using North Koreans. I know if you wanted proof of the axis of evil, right?

If you wanted proof that now, South Korea goes, we might fight. You know, we're going to send our weapons in.

Well, they should. They already are. The South Koreans have been good, but they need to do more. Everybody, and this is the, Brian, this is the. The Big struggle of the early 21st century because if the bad guys win in Ukraine, And then they'll push us back everywhere.

Absolutely. And they'll push us back all over the all the places where we thought in my lifetime, in the 1980s, we thought. It was settled. They were going to be free countries. Ronald Reagan.

The achievements of the United States were all Margaret Thatcher, they were all going to pay off. That's all going to be put in question again. And China, and I would say it's to everybody listening in America. And look at what China will do in the Pacific. Absolutely.

Mr. Prime Minister is going to sit down for one weather segment. He could get out, but I've locked the door.

So we have one more segment together. He's an experienced broadcaster. That's why he's such a great communicator and politician. Pick up his book, More with Barce Johnson in just a moment. You'll listen to the Brian Killme show.

Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Here at first on the Brian Killmead Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Prime Minister Barn Johnson here.

His book is excellent. It's called Unleashed. You got to go pick it up. And it brings you right up till today. And it starts with Brexit and works its way up and how it relates here to America.

After all, you were born in New York City. I was. Yes.

I was fantastic. And it was a very expensive decision, by the way, because you guys then pursued me. But I was mayor of London. And I didn't have this story in unleashed, but but I was Asked to pay tax on the sale of my primary residence by the U.S. tax.

How could you be born in America and be prime minister? Here, you can't be, if you're born outside the country, you can't be prime minister. Both my parents are British, they were students. My father and mother were students, just happened to be living in America at the time.

So, what is your view of this country's election? What's the impact of this election as you view it, Mr. Prime Minister? Look, it's a wonderful thing. What's going on is amazing.

You know, this whole city, we're in New York right now. Everybody's getting their knickers in a twist about this thing. Do you like it? Yes, I do, Brian. I'll tell you why.

Because you don't know, and I don't know, and nobody in this building knows what's going to happen on Tuesday night. And nobody and that's a wonderful thing. But it would be a big impact, right? Because there are countries where that. Everybody knows what's gonna happen in the election, right?

Like Russia or China. This is different. This is the most powerful, greatest country on earth, and we don't know. And that's why it's the greatest country on earth. And I, you know, I think that.

Look I We were talking a a moment ago. You're worried about being partisan. I get it. I can't get involved in the. This is for the American people to decide, right?

And they're going to decide. That's a fantastic thing. But let me give you my perspective as a Brit and as an observer of foreign affairs. We want an America than the. That's strong.

and uh an America that gives leadership. And I think that, you know, I look back to things that were done in the time of. Um Of Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, we were just talking about. You saw an America that was strong and decisive and gave leadership.

And, you know, I would just. you know, I say again what I saw when I when Donald Trump was president. There were some pretty tough decisions that worked.

So, a couple of things. You know, UK. I don't want tariffs. You don't like the taxes? That never works.

Come on, Smoot Hawley, remember all that. It's always a disaster. It impoverishes both sides. But it sends a message. We've got to restructure because America in many cases.

Have you been to Walmart? Walmart's got 400 million lines of products, got 2.3 million employees. It's the biggest company in the world. 80% of Walmart's manufactured goods are from. You've got to have an economics conversation because the goal is to start making stuff.

And when you have to depend on China to get us masks and pharmaceuticals, there's a problem. We stop making stuff because it's so cheap to have the Vietnamese do it. But do you believe in Adams? Do you believe in Adam? Adam Smith?

I mean, you know, or David Ricardo, you've got to have a doctrine of comparison. I got to ask you this. There's UK politicians from Starmer's party who have come, about 100 of them, that have come to the Battleground States and are working for the Harris campaign. How do you feel about that? I think it's a mistake.

I think it's something that we don't do. We shouldn't we shouldn't, you know, I don't think that the gov governments friendly, you know, the relationship between the the Here's what I think. I think that it's a mistake, and I think that the Labour guys have apologised for it, as far as I understand. It was Starman. Starmer had certainly distanced himself from it.

Um but From my point of view, it is The Relationship between the two countries. is far, far more important. We shouldn't let Party political goofs like that get in the way. The friendship between the US and the UK, the transatlantic bond, is the thing that in. The 20th century saved the world at least twice.

We're going to need to do it in the 21st century. And we're going to have to do it again. And it's obvious that we're going to have to do it again. And I can tell you that the UK will be with you around whether it's in the Pacific or the Euro-Atlantic area. He's a broadcaster, he's a host, and he's a prime minister.

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