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It's the Brian Kilme Show coming your way. This hour going to be joined by the RNC chair, Joe Gruders, and Congressman Jim Jordan standing by. In a matter of moments, we'll get to him. Keep in mind, we got this great YouTube channel now, so if you ever missed the show on highlights of the show, youtube.com/slash at the Brian Kilme show. We know the president's got an executive order today to emergency excavate and start implementing through an executive order, Cole.

He says we need the energy, no doubt about it. Joe Biden would never have done that. He tried to kill it. And we also know this. Todd Blanch, the acting attorney general, will be nominated as the Attorney General.

Will he pass? Uh, that's going to be interesting because I think he's doing a really good job. But the question is, do The Republicans, many of which are lame duck, would they vote for them? We'll have to see.

So, before we get to Congressman Jim Jordan, let's get to the big three. Number three. What are your concerns about AI developers obtaining approval from the U.S. government? My understanding of the current EO is not that it's approval, but it's early testing.

But I think as these models get more powerful, there will need to be increasingly strong frameworks to ensure that we can meet the safety guarantees we want to meet. That's really nice of them. AI not A-OK with lawmakers and many graduates as it promises to change every aspect of our lives. We talk about the regulation that does not stifle growth and advancement. Number two.

We're going to have to stop them from having a nuclear weapon. That's what we've done. And they've agreed to that. By the way, they, I mean, if they signed the agreement, they will have agreed to, we will not have a nuclear weapon. No one believes them, but it might go to a memorandum of understanding.

Frustration is the only way to describe a two-week ceasefire that now is in its eighth week. We have the latest on the talks, which are highlighted by low-level attacks. Number one. It wasn't like I subpoenaed him. It wasn't like the government brought him in as a hostile witness.

What he ended up saying on cross-examination was that the blind sheikh talked about jihad all the time making war against the United States. Yeah, Andy McCarthy tried the blind shake. Democrats' primary season is reaffirming that this has become a radical far-left party. We look at the radical in New Jersey, literally an unhinged maniac running for Senate in Maine as we wait and watch the results in California, who can't even count ballots on time. Let's bring in Chairman Jim Jordan.

Chairman, great to see you. I mean, first off, On what's going on in California. Do you believe this? They just got 60% of their votes cast. Everybody gets a ballot, and they got about a week to count them all.

How is that acceptable?

Well, it's not, but it's become the pattern. I mean, every election we wait days and, as you say, sometimes weeks to find out who the winner is. It just makes no sense when every other state seems to be able to, certainly Republican-run states, seem to be able to get us the results in a matter of hours after the polls close on Election Day, whether that's primary day or the general election day.

So, yeah, it is kind of frustrating. This is why the President's right, this mail-in balloting that goes on forever and ballots that get accepted after Election Day in certain states. That makes no sense whatsoever.

So, yeah, it's why we need some of the election reform that the President's talked about, that we've talked about, and we'll see if we can get that done. Would the Save America Act have anything to do with streamlining or fundamentally changing the way everyone does voting? Remember, Florida was the embarrassment of the country, and now it might be one of the best. They count their absentee ballots before the election. By the time it's done by midnight, they know who won.

Yep. No, and they thought Ohio was the problem that was going to be the problem in the 2004 election, and ours went fine. You know, we used to be the Bellwether State in presidential elections.

So, yeah, if you do it right, you have this common sense rules in place. And in Ohio, you have to show photos. When we go to the polls, you got to show your driver's life. You got to show who you are. Even though the person maybe where I'm from out in the little Mad River township precinct that we go vote at, even though the person there knows you, has known you your whole life, you still show your ID.

That's just how it works. And we have a good system where we get results in a matter of hours right after the polls close.

So there's some radicals, and we know what's going on in Maine. We'll touch on that. But this guy, Dr. Adam Hamowey, is a U.S. Army veteran, Democratic nominee in New Jersey.

Okay, sounds good. Until you find out his background. This guy was an interpreter and testified on the defense of the blind shake who wanted to blow up every artery in New York City, including pot and plan, the 93 bombing. And then we find out that he's volunteering in Gaza in a hospital. that's overseeing all these Hamas tunnels while running on the fact that he wants to cut off Israeli aid.

Here he is, cut nine, cut eight, trying to explain himself. 30 years ago, he's a well-known person in the community. He spoke all over New Jersey and he was a blind old man that people volunteered when he needed some kind of service because he couldn't take care of himself. And so that's kind of all the association is. There was nothing back then and there's nothing now.

He spoke to my jihad all the time. I mean, what are your thoughts about this?

Well, the once great party of FDR and JFK. Is now anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, and it's and it's scary. And frankly, we need to make sure none of that element ever gets in our party. But the fact that it now, like, there are all kinds of candidates who refuse to talk to APAC, take APAC support, criticize our best friend and ally, the standard. It's really scary what you see on the other side.

And again, I think it's real important that The other party, the Republican party, the one that I belong to, that we push back on we do not let this, and we understand what a great friend and ally Israel is.

So I'm very nervous about it. It's one of the reasons I'm getting so involved in primaries around the country and the Republican primaries. I want to make sure we have Republican candidates who are conservative but understand the importance of the state of Israel and our relationship with them. Yeah, I get real nervous about what I hear. The lady, now, thank goodness she got beat last week in Texas, but the one lady who was talking just crazy stuff.

I mean, it was anti-Semitic craziness at ICE centers, putting Zionists in ICE. She said some crazy things.

So thank goodness she lost. But here you got this individual in New Jersey. Again, I think it underscores just how radical the left has become, and they now control the Democrat Party.

Well, I want you to, you know, by the way, he is backed by Bernie Sanders, A-O-C. Tommy Du Duckworth, Hassan Piker, of course, that that crazy podcaster who couldn't be more anti-Israel and anti-American, I might add, too.

So I I do you think the House is lost? No, I think we can win. I do. The redistricting actually helped us on balance. It's going to be tough.

The environment, you know, it's a little tough, but I think we got to go tell the voters what we've done in the big beautiful bill, cut their taxes, secure the border. And frankly, I think if we're talking about The fact that this sanctuary jurisdiction and the crime that it now that happens in these jurisdictions, if we're talking about highlighting just how ridiculous the Democrat Party has become, I think we can win.

Now, if we're talking about some other things, it's going to be a little tougher, but I do think we can win by highlighting they're crazy, we're not. You can go every issue, Brian. We've talked about this. They're crazy to defund the police, crazy to defund ICE, crazy to have sanctuary jurisdictions where the politicians tell local law enforcement not to work with federal law enforcement in enforcing federal law. Crazy to say men should compete against women in sports.

Crazy to shut down the government 40-some days last fall, shut down ICE here, what, 90 days this spring.

So you can just go issue by issue and talk about how crazy they are. I think that's real important. We go tell the voters, here's the contrast, common sense versus crazy.

So yesterday the House, they voted to limit the President and the War Powers Act forward to Republicans to fact, and they're basically trying to limit the President's ability to conduct war in Iran.

Now, it's got to go through the Senate. If it gets to him, he can always veto, and it's probably not going to get two-thirds of a vote. But I think it just limits the president's ability. Overseas, they don't understand our system. They think the president no longer has the ability to wage war or beginning to erode support.

That hurts the negotiation process. I don't get it. Yeah, it's not ideal, you're right, but you know, my position is the commander-in-chief, the president's commander-in-chief, he gets to make these calls. I mean, that's why we have a commander-in-chief, that's why we have separate and equal branches of government, and it's why the president of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the armed services.

So, that's how it works. Obviously, if there's a formal declaration of war and we're going to make some full commitment to go, you know, troops and everything else, then that's a different question at some point. But that's not where we're at now. And I think the president's done a good job. I agree with the president 100 percent.

The number one objective is you cannot let this you cannot let Iran get get a nuclear You just can't let him have nuclear capability. I mean, Brian, I think we may have talked about this. In Iran, wrestling is big. It is one of their key sports. And they took this 19-year-old junior champion because he had protests against the government, and they hung this guy in public.

So they said, they're so evil. We don't care if he's one of our star athletes, up-and-coming athletes. We don't care. We're going to send a message. This is how evil they are.

They've killed Americans, Israelis, other people around the world, thousands of their own people, including this athlete. That's a regime, and they're going to get a nuclear weapon. No way.

So I'm 100% with the president. And I think as long as we keep stressing that and say, President Trump's committed to achieving that objective. I think it's the right thing to do. We just got to support him. By the way, there were more hangings yesterday.

So would you be in support if the President wanted to go back to full-scale war? I'm in support of making sure we achieve the goal. I leave that up to General Kaine, the President Trump as Commander-in-Chief, the Armed Services Secretary Hegset. They decide the tactics and strategy. The goal, everyone, and my, I mean, I just understand, you cannot let this regime, 47 years, done the evil they've done.

You cannot let them get a nuclear weapon. And if all our intelligence is telling the administration that they are close, you got to stop them. And so I support the President in achieving that, whatever it takes to get to that goal.

So I want you to hear some of the sparring that took place. I'm not sure if you were part of it, but Marco Rubia went to the House Foreign Relations Committee, and it was just a circus. Here he is talking with and going back and forth with Democratic Congresswoman Sarah Jacobs, Cut 27. Just like you won't admit President Trump is losing this reckless war of choice, and just like you couldn't admit that the shoes the president bought you were too big. I don't know what shoes she's talking about.

What is she talking about? Yeah, I don't know about the shoes. I mean, he gave me some Florsheim shoes. They're actually pretty good. They fit fine.

I don't know what she's talking about. And maybe that's what she's referring to. Your shoes look very nice today, Mr. Secretary.

Well, how can you see them? They're way down here. We're talking about shoes. Are you guys kidding me? I mean, is this the Foreign Affairs Committee or is this like a circus?

What is this? Congressman, what's the point, Chairman? What is the point of having him in front of you and just steamrolling all this stuff? I don't get it either. I think Secretary Rubio has done an amazing job.

Well, several jobs. He's done amazing. I mean, he's doing all kinds of things in the administration. I've been so impressed. I was impressed with him when I was in the United States Senator, been impressed with him in his work in the administration.

He always conducts himself, handles himself, I think, in an amazing way when he comes in front of these committees. And he's funny at some point, too. I think it was maybe the same lady who, same member, who asked him about Greenland. And I think his response was, well, for now, you know, just having a little fun as well, but a serious guy who's done a tremendous, I think, tremendous work for the country. Yeah, with a bunch of jobs.

He must get paid a lot of money. He's got like five salaries. He's not making as much as Brian Kilmead. I know that. Yeah, no one is.

He's doing a great job nonetheless. Yeah, I know Jesse, and everybody's so jealous of me.

So, Congressman, I want to bring you to something else. Al Greene, who's an embarrassment to the people he's supposed to represent, thankfully lost his primary, decides to call. Mark Wayne Mullen, Homeland Security Secretary, I think as classy a guy as you will ever meet. Um Listen to this exchange. This was peaceful protest, Mr.

Secretary.

Racists take offense at peaceful protests. Erases Mr. Secretary? We're doing What happened to Ruby? A racist reclaiming my time, asking to shut up.

That's a pretty shut up. Up, you definitely shut up. Shut up. It's my time. I don't know what anybody calls me a racist chairman.

I never called him a racist. It's my time. It is a violation of House rules. To make statements that might be personally offensive to the president or vice president. I ask that.

Any person who desires to interrupt me, shut up.

So he says six times to Mark Wayne Mullen to shut up. Come on, Carrick Smith. I mean, do you guys have, is there any sense of etiquette? I can understand losing your temper. Six times, that's not losing your temper.

No, I I know. who are focused on just getting attention and looking for the viral moment or the YouTube video or the whatever. Just do your job. I always like, for what it's worth, I tell new members coming in, like, just focus on it. You do your job well, you get plenty of attention.

You don't have to manufacture it. You don't have to create some moment. Just do your job. Come prepared to committee. Ask the appropriate questions.

You can press a witness. There's an appropriate way to cross-examine someone and there's a ridiculous way to do it. And it seems like what you've been showing me here are talking about here, Brian, are the ridiculous ways. It just doesn't make sense. I want to get to two things.

You want Roger Goodell to come to the Capitol and explain his TV deals. Because if you want to watch football, some say you got to get an Amazon subscription now. You got to go get an Apple subscription. And then you got Cable subscription.

So you have questions to ask him, but I don't think the Commissioner of Football wants to go. And test it.

Well, he can't he's not coming next week and th and uh you know, I think he's out of town and then there's also ongoing litigation.

So, but look, here's what we know: constituents, consumers out there. Right now, to watch every if you want to watch your team play every week, uh, you got streaming, you got cable, you got satellite, you got network.

So, excuse me, it's difficult to do so. It's tough to figure out where you got to go to find your team and watch the game, not to mention the cost. I mean, I think estimates are like that, that there's been some calculations over a thousand bucks a year. I mean, that's that's real money for middle-class families, of course.

So, um. We want to know the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act, as evidenced in the title, Sports Broadcasting, was designed to allow the league to collude and negotiate price so that you would have a league, so that Green Bay would be in equal treatment to the teams in New York and Chicago and L.A. I get that, but it was for broadcasting, and now we're in a whole different world with streaming and satellite and cable.

So, you know, we'll have to see. We're having a hearing next week. And then you have that act and the concerns we have with the antitrust relief we've given the NFL versus what some in college want to do for college sports is have a similar type of agreement.

So there's this tension there.

So we're going to have a hearing and talk about all this and find out if there's a solution there. 30 seconds. Just on ActBlue. They have foreign investment into ActBlue. That's a huge problem for that super PAC, isn't it?

Well, if it's happening, and it sure looks like it is, it's illegal.

So, and they're raising billions, they're the juggernaut for the Democrat Party. They're raising billions of dollars. And we know that when we deposed, our committee brought in five of their people, four who had quit Act Blue after the 24 election, one who was fired. They all took the fifth. They wouldn't answer any questions.

And now we're bringing in the CEO who's in a fight with their old law firm because their old law firm said to her, the response you gave to Congress may have misrepresented things, which is a nice way of saying you lied to Congress.

So we'll see when they come in next week. Chairman, Jim Jordan, very explosive time on Capitol Hill. Not a dull moment. Congressman, thanks so much. You bet, Brian.

Thank you, buddy. All right, we'll take a short time out. Come back. Bottom of the hour, RNC Chair, Joe Gruters, don't move. The headlines, the stories behind them, and the people who make them only on the Brian Kill Meat Show.

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So it's, you know, every time you're on stage, it's different.

So you'll get that dynamic. And it was the first time we ever did it in the daytime. And then gradually as the show went on, the sun set and it ended up being night and it was outdoors.

So not easy, but I wouldn't say it's hard, but I would say it is very, very different.

So we're looking at all that.

So when we come back, the RNC has got the money, but they have history against them when it comes to holding on to the House and the Senate. Although the Senate is going to be a harder lift for For, I think, Democrats, much harder. In fact, it wasn't even expected, but there are certain seats. that are going to be challenging. There's a story today that now John Houston is trailing in Ohio.

I state that Donald Trump won by 11 points. When you have states like that in play, I don't think Texas is necessarily going to be in play. When you have to defend states like that, that's when things get really dicey. We'll see, though, long way to go. A talk show that's real.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Mm-hmm. Hey, we are back. RNC Chair Joe Brutus joins us now. Joe, great to see you.

Your thoughts. What's your takeaway from primary day? I know the president had a phenomenal record, only lost one race by percentage points of the people he endorsed. But um your thoughts, uh your takeaway right now as you look at the matchups? Listen, we're excited.

We're getting our conservative warriors ready to go and we're getting our lineup for November and we're getting the matchups that we're looking for. I mean, if you look at some of these races, I mean, look at the Zach Nunn race where he's going against the Wicked Witch of Woke. I mean, we're getting all the primetime candidates that we want to run against. I think we're ready to go. And listen, we're ready to do battle, and we're going to carry that flag of our candidates all the way to November.

Let's take a look at the Senate, if we could. It looks like John Usted, there's a big story today. He's trailing in Ohio a state that Donald Trump won by 11 points against Sherrod Brown. Your thoughts? about how much money you're going to have to pour in there.

Yeah, listen, it's going to cost some money, but I'm confident that Senator Housted is going to win. You've got to remember, he hasn't been on the ballot in years. He's been successful. He was appointed by the governor there to take the vice president's place. And what's going to happen there is once we start spending the money, you'll see those poll numbers naturally go up.

He's going against a guy who was in public service there for decades, and he has a record to run on. It's not a good one. He's a radical leftist that's not the right candidate for Ohio. We're going to be able to explain that story, and Houston's going to do a good job. I'm not worried about Ohio.

Well, when you talk about what's happening in Texas, some say you have to spend between $50 million and $100 million because Ken Paxton is going to take harder to drag across the finish line against Tallarico than Cornyn would. Texas is a ruby red state. He won by 400,000 votes in the primary. He's won statewide before, I think, the last time by double digits. Paxson can win.

I mean, look at Ted Cruz. He's a good conservative representing Texas. They always say they're going to make this a race, and we always end up winning. I have full faith and confidence in Paxson's ability to win that race. We're going to be there every step of the way, but if it costs us a little bit more money, we'll spend it.

But we're very confident in Paxson's ability to get it done. He was here. I met with him the other day, and we talked about strategy, talked about what we're going to do together to make sure he's going to be successful.

So yesterday we had. We had Graham Plattner, who saw him on Capitol Hill trying to secure his Democratic support after a series of really disturbing allegations about his background, of sexting. We know what he's actually said and posted on Reddit, and we know about the Nazi tattoo. And suddenly, an eight-point deficit for Susan Collins is down to four. Make sense of Maine for me, Joe.

With primary is Tuesday. Susan Collins is the ultimate survivor. I mean, every poll that in the last three cycles that she's been up, it's had her down 12, 8, and 8, and she always ends up winning by a decent, comfortable margin. Plattner is a completely disqualifying candidate on the left, but that's what the Democrats have been giving us. And you could thank Momdami, you could thank AOC and Bernie Sanders, who has been inspiring these far-leftist radicals to run for these seats, and they're winning.

And they're winning, and then it's a dream candidate for Collins to run against. We're very, you know, I'm grateful that we get a, you know, it's not all the stuff that you've seen, it's not over. There's more stuff coming out. Where if you look at Susan Collins, she represents mainstream middle America and she represents Maine well. I think that our matchups across the board are looking better and better, and it gives us a real chance to hold the majorities coming up.

All right.

So when asked, are you standing by Plattner? Here's what AOC said: cut five. Mm-hmm. Should Democrats abandon Graham Plattner after these messages came out, these sexually expressive messages that he sent to women? You know, I haven't waited into that primary.

I don't believe the primary has occurred yet.

So I would kind of, you know, again, I don't wait in on that. I haven't waited on that right now. Here's Elizabeth Warren, cut six. What about his conduct, though? You have to be concerned about his conduct, don't you?

No. The people of Maine. are dealing every single day. with economic issues that are flattening them against the wall. Aren't you worried about war coming out about his past that could damage his chances?

What I'm worried about is another day of war in Iran. Are these accusations disturbing to you? What is disturbing to me is what's happening in this economy and how right now the Republicans just sign off on it.

So Nazi tattoos and abusing women and verbally abusing women, talking about how if they're raped, you know, stop drinking. And taking a Purple Heart recipient and saying he should have been killed by the Taliban. And now we find out he's s uh sexting with at least six women. Does it matter because we're in Iran and she thinks we're losing? Yeah, listen, Platiner's a sinking ship.

They know it. That's why they don't want to say anything positive about them. But this is the Democrat Party of today. They surround themselves with these radical woke leftists who, you know, have all these issues and who are Nazis, who are communist. And it's amazing the candidates that they're putting up versus when you look at our candidates and who the presidents endorse, you had it right at the beginning where he's basically undefeated.

He is undefeated in the congressional races. And you look at the candidates we're putting up, these are candidates that could win these districts. They're going to be well-funded. And so all these things combined gives us the momentum and the real opportunity to win. What about the affordability, Joe?

The President says it's temporary with Iran, but people are paying a lot for gas. Farmers are paying a lot for fertilizer if they can get it. Airlines are cutting back on flights. And Joe Gruyter says, running the RNC with the RNC has a House, a Senate, and President. They're saying it's your guy's fault.

Yeah, listen, people forget how much gas was under Biden. It was more under then than with the conflict that we're experiencing now with Iran. And I talked to Trump. I was with the president last week at the White House, and we were talking about the affordability issue specifically. And he knows it's an issue.

He feels for the American people. He wants to get prices down. He wants to get gas prices down. And he's trying to make sure that we have a successful outcome in Iran. Then he's going to get out and he says, Joe, he says, listen, we're going to make sure prices come down for gas.

His focus has been on affordability since day one. Of course, that's why he went after the no-tax on tips over time in Social Security. That's why he's bringing record investments to make sure we can protect the American workers, not only today, but for years to come. But he has empathy for the Americans that are experiencing the pain. And what I want to tell people is: listen, short-term pain for long-term gain.

We're going to get out of this. The world will be better. Better off, and I'm thankful that we have a President that's willing to make some of these tough decisions regardless of the short-term political risks that are out there. Wow.

So, in terms of money, I think you guys are dramatically out-raising the DNC. What is your target goal?

Well, listen, we have, I think, $125 million in the bank. I think the DNC is minus four. Where this is really going to play out is when the coordinated campaign limits come in to play, and that's going to allow us to fully direct and coordinate with our House and Senate candidates. And it's going to allow us to spend at the candidate rate, which is going to be a complete game changer. People have no idea what a big deal that is.

It's a great time to be chairman of the party because we're going to be in command. We're well positioned to use it to our benefit. And the DNC is asleep at the wheel, thank goodness for us. But it's not just the RNC, it's the entire collective on our side, all the resources we have. And I go back to we have the right candidates in these races.

We have the resources we need. This is going to be the first cycle. People don't know this either. The Democrats almost always outspend us as a collective. This is going to be the first cycle that we actually spend on parity with the Democrats or outspend them.

And then, of course, we have the president and his messaging and the fact that he's the best showman that's ever lived, and he's going to go out there and barnstorm the country. We're down to 20 competitive House seats. We're about five U.S. Senate seats. He's going to go to these districts.

You saw him up in Congressman Lawler's district last week. I think he's going to be in Pennsylvania soon. He's going to keep on pounding the pavement all the time to make sure these candidates win. All right.

So let's talk about California before we go. Why do they need a week to count ballots? I mean, what can you do as the RNC chair? I don't care who wins, but we just want the right person to win. Everybody gets a ballot.

They take a week to count it. Come on, Joe. It's out of control. The Democrats are cheating. They cheat every day.

The RNC has spent two years fighting this. We actually have one of the biggest Supreme Court cases in the history of the party. I think we're going to win it. Hopefully, the decision comes down. It may even come down today, but it's our Watson versus RNC case.

It will make Election Day Election Day. The fact that they can count ballots and send ballots out seven days after Election Day is completely mind-boggling. It's only allowed because they're trying to cheat. We're putting a stop to it. We sued.

I think we're going to win, and it's going to be a massive change. You know, Brian, there's 14 states in the District of Columbia, maybe 13 states right now that count ballots after Election Day. And some of these states will have these elections open until they win. We saw this in California with some of these house raises. We saw this in some of these other states.

This has given them the opportunity to go out there and cheat after the fact, after they can't win. And if we win this, It's going to be a massive victory for good, and it's just another way we're going to stop the Democrats from cheating. We have 150 lawsuits right now in 32 different states. And I say, you want to know where we spend a lot of our money? Think about 150 lawsuits, those clocks ticking.

And we're doing that because we're being proactive in our approach, and we're going everywhere to make sure we stop these guys from cheating. Because if we didn't, they would cheat on everything. But this is one of the, this is egregious. And the fact that they can count ballots and it keeps on going, going, going is to me, it's disgusting.

So 60% voters in, only 60. Steve Hilton's up by two points on Javier Basheira, a failed HHS secretary and a terrible congressman. Tom Star, $212 million he spent individually. He's got 19% of the vote.

So when it comes to a one-on-one matchup, they say Steve Hilton's only got maybe a 10 to 20% chance of winning. What can you do for him knowing that if you're too conservative or too tight? to Trump, that'll actually hurt you in California. Listen, Steve, he's a phenomenal candidate. I think he has a story to tell.

And listen, a lot of the Republicans have, I was talking to somebody yesterday who lived in California. I was saying, how's Steve Hilton doing? What are we going to do to win? And she told me that she moved to North Carolina last year. Not only her, but 20 of her friends left too.

A lot of conservatives have left California, but what we have to do is we have to, and what Steve has to continue to do is show that contrast. Decline is an option. Spencer Pratt has put it perfectly.

Some of those ads that they're running out there, they don't have to live in filth. They could have a future. They could have safe streets. They could have clean streets. They just have to vote for it.

And Steve Hilton's going to have to make that contrast with the left-wing liberals out there and hopefully attract enough independent voters to join the Republicans to put him in office. We're going to be there to help them. We already have staffers on the ground, and we're going to do what we can. All right.

And so you talk about what you just mentioned, the mayor's race.

So you have Bass with 34. Pratt with 30 and Rahman with 20 or 23, it looks like. What is the success that Pratt's already have shown you? What does it show you in the big picture that you might relate to other candidates across the country?

Well, shows we need that type of energy and enthusiasm and truth telling and ads and commentary. Spencer Pratt has done an amazing job of highlighting what's wrong in their community. The fact that 70% of the people are in the community. of the people voted against Pratt in that primary to me tells me that these people like to live in filth. They like to live in a dysfunctional government and it's a, but he has to keep on fighting.

I think he's doing a good job of exposing what's out there. And again, it's all about contrast, giving people a choice, saying you have options. The client is a choice. We could do things right. Let's move forward and let's clean it up and make things better.

Do you feel it's your job to recruit candidates like him? 100%. I think that's one of the most important things. And that's going to be the big difference maker in this cycle. We have recruited candidates across the country, and we don't get involved in primaries.

But what we do do is we find candidates that can win that are good candidates. We give them off to the White House and James Blair and then ultimately the president. These guys go vet them and make sure they're the right candidates. And then if they endorse them, I say if the president endorses you, it's like a golden ticket. You go right to the front, obviously in these congressional races, undefeated.

He is the leader of our party. They're picking candidates that can win. And on the left, they're allowing it to play out. And these radical leftists are getting nominated. And yes, as a result, some of these races are going from toss-up or lean are to likely are.

It's because of the fact that we have the right candidates and it's the fact that they have candidates that can't win. All right.

Thanks so much, Joe. I know you got a busy job and it's going to be a sprint over the next six months. I say this. I don't think Anybody people say the house is lost. Or is someone play?

I don't think either is done yet. I don't think you've locked up the Senate. I don't think you've lost the House. When the doors are went and there's no, I know you what you want. But when the doors are closed and the cameras are off and the jacket's off and the tie is loose, and you talk to the RNC.

Do you believe the game still has to be played yet in both chambers? Oh, yeah. We're fighting every single day. We're building the massive ground operation, massive election integrity operation, just like we did in the last cycle. You know, I spent 23 years as a chairman.

I think organizing is the way to go. We've done a lot of things that haven't been done before, and we're going to use that organization, use every all the other advantages that we have. And we're going to, I think we're going to crush these guys. I think we're going to defy history. I think it's going to be the fifth time in 150 years that the majority party holds on.

It's going to be the first time outside of some monumental event. And we're going to do it because we have the best president of the United States. He's working every day. And we have a party that believes in him. We're united.

And we have the right candidates to make it happen.

So, a couple of things. Just last thing before we go. How many House seats do you think are in play? And the DNC would probably agree with whatever number you have, because how many do you actually think are in play? 35?

20 seats. 20 seats. So that's it. That's it. And we're starting because of redistricting.

We're starting with, let's say, 210, 211, 212 safe Republican seats.

So we need to win six out of the 20 seats remaining to hold the majority. When you think of it like that, we're not talking about 10 years ago, there were 100 competitive races.

Now we're down to 20, 20 seats. We have better candidates. We have more money. We have the president. We're going to crush these guys.

And you just got Alabama. Got another couple of seats out of Alabama redistricting. All right, Joe, you got your hands full, but it's very interesting talking to you. I love getting into the strategy of it all, and you let our audience get inside that. We appreciate it.

Thanks, Joe. Thanks, Brian. Bye-bye. Back in a moment. Giving you everything you need to know.

You're with Brian Kilmead. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. It was a tied game with about two and 15 to go. Just what was the difference in those last two minutes?

I think just sticking together wasn't really our night. It wasn't really my night most of the night. But we kept finding a way, kept tripping away. I just like how resilient we were tonight. Yeah, you guys were down 14 in the third quarter.

Just what started to turn things around? Honestly, it's just the chemistry, just knowing that we have each other's back. There's a lot of things excellent wise we could have done better, but I think most importantly, our togetherness really the biggest difference. What's going to be your mindset as you start thinking about game two? We got to go back and just watch the things we can do better.

It's a long journey, but I think we hope there's a lot of things that we can do better.

So Jail and Brunson. Was unbelievable, thirty points, hurt his ankle, hurt his knee in the first first half, didn't know if he was coming back out and got off to his relatively slow start after hitting the first three and ends up with thirty points. The guy six foot two going through the middle through Victor Wemenyama, who is 7'5. Eve ends up with 26 points. Here's what he said about the home loss, cut 46.

Every team guards differently, you know. I'm gonna figure it out. It's uh Yeah, I mean uh I was bad tonight. It's not more complicated than that. You guys were up 12 or 14, whatever it was, midway through the third.

When did you feel like things were slipping a little? Was it quick or Was it just simply just they just started making more shots? Was it something just simple? It was quick, I think. I think we let that one go.

Maybe. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. All right, from 48th and 6th of Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world, it's a Brian Killmeat show. We're watching a lot of moving parts today.

The president's gonna sign an executive order refueling coal. We need it for energy, and he says we have a clean way of doing it, and he's getting everyone behind it.

So, that's going to put some jet fuel to it. We're also going to discuss what's going on with AI in the executive order because it's got a lot, that has a lot of ramifications. This hour will be joined by Senator Roger Wicker, and with me in the studio right now is Dr. Kevin Roberts, the Heritage Foundation president. Kevin, great to see you.

Good to see you live and in person, Brian. I know. Can you believe it? First off, what is your takeaway on, and I'm worried for the country, forget about Republican and Democrat, of the left-wing zealots that are emerging on the left right now. Yeah, I see it the same way.

I mean, let's put Republican and Democrat off to the side. You and I both grew up at a time when there were not only common sense Democrats, but Democrats that conservative people like you and me and your audience could vote for, right? I grew up in the deep South. Democrats were pro-life, they were pro-gun.

Now it isn't just that they're not those things. These are Democrats who want to change the human person. They hate the United States. And the problem for us as a civilization, put the election off to the side. Is that these people are as crazy as Marx and Lenin themselves, and they're winning elections, as you know all too well here in New York City.

So, one of these candidates, as we were just going over in a previous hour, who was basically an interpreter for the blind shake. And for people that don't know, in New York City, the blind shake not only plotted and planned 93 bombing, but he wanted to blow up the Lincoln Tunnel, the George Washington Bridge, and the Midtown Tunnel. And they had plans to do it. Thankfully, it was unwound. This was his interpreter.

Now he is in a bright blue district, wins the primary by at least 10 points, and is likely as a doctor. He's a doctor. And who just served in Gaza at a hospital volunteering where there were tunnels underneath where Hamas was using. And now he looks like he's going to be serving in Congress. Yeah, this is a guy who ought to be investigated, not be on the cusp of being in Congress.

It's very likely because of the district that he will be elected. You know, you and I over the years, Brian, have talked about what's upstream. Of this. In other words, what's the origins of this kind of nonsense? It's our terrible education system.

You know, it isn't just that we have put poor kids of all ethnic backgrounds in zip code discrimination and bad schools where they aren't learning math, they aren't learning reading. It's that, in addition to that, we've used those schools and this noble promise we make to the American people, we're going to educate everybody well, and we've indoctrinated them. And so that's why someone like this Joker in New Jersey could have this profile, this proximity to the blind sheikh, and actually win the Democrat primary by 10 points.

So here is his name is Adam Hamowi, and he's a doctor, U.S. Army veteran, and Democrat nominee.

So here he goes. He spent time at Gaza Hospital, which Israeli officials said was connected to tunnel activity during the Israel-Hamas war. Who else was there? Sinwar. That's where he was killed.

People backing him up, Bernie Sanders, AOC. Tammy Duckworth says your life was saved by him.

So let's just assume that in battle, that he did his job. But what he did when he's Not at battle is even more problematic. His explanation for being with the blind shake, who, by the way, was prosecuted by our own Andy McCarthy, was he was just an old man that needed help. Nobody describes him as an old man that needed help, cut eight. 30 years ago, he's a well-known person in the community.

He spoke all over New Jersey, and he was a blind old man that people volunteered when he needed some kind of service because he couldn't take care of himself. And so that's kind of all the association is. There was nothing back then and there's nothing now. I don't know. They could have called a general service.

He didn't have to be his interpreter, go to court with him and defend him in court. Yeah, he had free will. And the distance that he's trying to create now really belies the truth. I mean, this is something that you wish could be taken care of in the general election. It's highly unlikely because what's happening as the Democrat Party nominates more and more of these radical leftists is that the rank-and-file voters in the Democrat Party, even if they think that this is ridiculous, that he's the nominee, are more willing to vote for people like him or, for that matter, James Tallarico, the guy who says there are six genders.

Where? In the state of Texas. This isn't Hawaii. It's not California. It's not New Jersey.

In the state of Texas. The point is, it isn't, unfortunately, limited just to this guy who probably should be investigated for sedition. It is something that is a huge trend. We see it in Washington all the time. And it worries me deeply, even if you put the labels of Republican and Democrat off the state.

And then when you look at what's going on in Maine, now suddenly Susan Collins trembling by eight. We know she's underpolled. Everybody knows that. She's never winning a poll before she wins an election. She's the last senator.

Senator in the Northeast that's a Republican.

So, people that are saying, Well, who cares? It matters a lot because you need a moderate in there or center left in there, or you just lose a seat. That's probably going to happen when Susan Collins, after this cycle, unless something radically changes. But he's running against, she's running against a guy that just got caught in a sexting scandal, and that's not the worst of it. Telling a Purple Heart recipient should have died, talking about seeing a film, horrible things about women.

If they don't want to be raped, stop drinking.

So, they're still, he's still getting backing from everybody, or they're just ignoring it. Listen to AOC Cut Five. Should Democrats abandon Graham Plattner after these messages came out, these sexually expressive messages he sent to women? You know, I haven't waited into that primary. I don't believe the primary has occurred yet.

So I would kind of, you know, again, I don't wait in on that. I haven't waited on that right. Is that a good explanation for someone who wants to be president? No, and I'm sitting here chuckling because if you read between the lines, I think that's AOC saying in so many words: I'm trying to get as far away from this guy as possible. And of course, imagine if that guy were on our side at Heritage, Brian, he would be toast.

But I want to underscore something that you said about Senator Collins. To state the obvious, her voting record, according to our Heritage Action scorecard, is not very conservative. But we are so grateful for her for two reasons. The point that you made. She's the most conservative person who can be elected there.

But the second thing I think is really important for us to emphasize this in America two hundred fifty is we try to be unabashed conservatives at Heritage, but also be civil about how we talk about things. She's a gentle lady. She's a statesman. She really is. And so when we have some disagreements sometimes, it's never personal, it's always professional.

And to her credit and her staff's credit, she always listens. It's really important for strident conservatives who say, well, we can let Senator Collins go away, realize we have to have that vote in order to get good legislation passed. Right. And we'll see what's going to happen because they've got a big decision to make by Tuesday. Because they say the word is just about everyone that it's going to get worse for him.

So with the Nazi tattoo, you wouldn't think it was going to get worse. But he said, Oh, I got drunk. How many people, you know, get drunk, get a tattoo and leave it? Or get drunk and get a tattoo.

Well, and then all of this nonsense about this guy being on this sordid website for teenagers dressed only in a towel. You say what could be worse, but the chatter in Washington for what it's worth this morning is that there's another shoe to drop today or tomorrow. And it'll be interesting to see if AOC or Schumer or Bernie or Senator Warren actually continue to basically stand up for this guy or if they're going to cut bait.

So evidently, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that behind the scenes Bernie says: is it flat out? Is it going to get worse? He said, no, that's it. Plattner also said there's nothing else. Elizabeth Warren also attended the meeting, followed up and said there's a big difference between marital issues.

and allegations of sexual assault. The people said Platiner agreed and denied any credible allegations of assault were forthcoming. Went on to say, It's not a secret. I've had a messy, complicated life, he told the centers. One of the people said the worst of the rumors we've all heard are not true.

Well, I don't know. Tell me what that is. Tyler will tell you. I guess the point is, to your great point, we already know enough to know that this guy should not be on the cusp of joining the U.S. Senate.

So there's a few things boiling out there. First off, First Story Media today is that Sherad Brown is now leading John Husted in Ohio, a state that the President won by 11 points. Kevin Roberts, does that concern you about the trend? Because if you lose the Senate, the President is not going to get anybody confirmed, let alone a Supreme Court justice. Yeah, it's concerning.

You know, I was talking to Senator Hustead a couple months ago. He's a great guy. He's a tremendous guy. We're lucky to have him in the Senate. Very thoughtful guy on policy.

So I hope he stays there a long time for that reason. But I was talking to him, and he was concerned about the race a couple of months ago. The good news is, as you said, that this is an increasingly red state. President Trump remains relatively popular. I think what's going for Senator Hustead is that Vivek Ramaswamy, who's also in a tight race for the governorship, actually looks like he's got a slightly In that same poll, he's down by one, but the polls that we're seeing show that both of them, Ramaswamy and Houstead, are actually doing better.

I think that by the time we get to Labor Day, if two things happen, that they're going to be okay, and that in fact the Republicans will hold the Senate. You know that Heritage full-throat supports the Iran incursion by the President. We also know that there are economic and potential political consequences if it's still going on on Election Day. I think the President has earned the benefit of the doubt to land this plane. I think he's going to do so in Iran in a satisfactory way that shows we've denuded the Iranian military by 20 years.

If we do that and we have Congress actually pass an economic recovery agenda, what we call the American Opportunity Agenda at Heritage this summer as they go into the August recess, I think Houstead will be fine. I think Mike Rogers, the Republican nominee in Michigan, actually is a sleeper candidate for a Senate pickup. And I think some of the embattled incumbents, like Senator Collins, not because of anything she's done wrong, because of the nature of Maine, actually could end up winning their races. The Republicans might pick up the winner. Pick up a seat or two.

Now, Democrats feel confident in North Carolina, should they be? They should. And it's not because I want to endorse Roy Cooper, which I would never do, but it's just a recognition that he, the Democrat nominee, two-term governor, is a very successful statewide candidate. Michael Watley, the Republican candidate, great guy, as you know, really solid candidate. But between the fact that North Carolina is a purple state for all intents and purposes, Roy Cooper has won a couple of statewide elections and remains popular, I think that's one where the Republicans are going to have to do a lot of investing.

Handicap Georgia for me. Georgia, I actually think we shouldn't call it a sleeper state for Republicans because it still is, leans to be a red state. I think that there is a real decent shot that the Republican nominee wins there. John Ossoff, although I disagree with everything about him and his politics, has done a very good job, as some of these other radical leftists have, of presenting himself as a moderate. But I think there's going to be enough money for advertising to prove that that hasn't been the case when you look at the state.

At his record.

So, as I look at the map, Brian, bottom line, I see a lot of, well, a couple of pickup opportunities for Republicans, and I see some of these races where we're trying to hold a seat. For example, the new Republican nominee for the Senate in Texas, Ken Paxton, I actually think is going to win by at least six points because of the radicalism of the Democrat nominee. Kevin, can you stick around? Absolutely. I will take a short time out and come back.

We have a lot more to talk about, including what's happening with the President of the United States and what he should do next in Iran. We'll go a little bit deeper because the word is that the Iranians have said, okay, we'll come together and we'll get the uranium out that's been buried after since 2025. We'll see how that goes and see if anyone on the Iranian side wants to dispute that, like they seem to always do, because they're fighting with each other even more than they're disagreeing with us. Don't move. Newsmakers and newsbreakers.

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So the president's got it tough to with Kevin Roberts Heritage Foundation. And Kevin, the president's got a tough decision to make. He says he's talking to some elements with Iran, and there's no doubt about it economically. They feel the enormous pressure, and I hear from everyone. This blockade on the blockade has been unbelievably effective, and blowing out engine rooms of ships that try to beat it have been great.

Every time they try to hit us, we're able to fight that off, and then they go and hit the Gulf states, which is not good either. But the President's got to make a decision, and he knows it. Here he is yesterday, Cut 12. The negotiation itself has gone very well, actually. Very well.

I mean, if it happens, and it might not happen, who knows? But if it happens, it could happen like over the weekend. What do you think is going to happen? Look, I'd have to start by saying this from a historian's point of view. I think Donald Trump is already one of our historically great presidents, just in terms of legacy, especially in this second term.

And because of what he's done in foreign policy, he approaches this as you know so well, Brian. not really wanting to intervene in these situations, but just being overwhelmed by the injustice and the evil of a regime like Iran. And so I give him tremendous, tremendous credit for having the courage to do what he's done. And I'm very supportive, as we are at Heritage. Having said that, there's this other good that's competing on the calendar, and it has to do with the midterms, and it's because there are real economic consequences of this particular conflict that are beginning to show themselves or manifest themselves in public opinion surveys.

I happen to think there's still time to land this plane. Our experts at Heritage say if the war ended today, that we've already denuded Iran's military by 20 years. We would love to have a war. For the whole thing to be complete, right? Three years, they cannot make manufacturers, they cannot make ballistic missiles for three years.

Yeah, that's right. And look, this is a win, no doubt about it. We have to also recognize that he's having to negotiate, in essence, with the devil. And so, if you decapitate the Iranian regime, which we've done in essence twice, what that system does is regenerate those 86 slots in that Supreme Council that they have. That's the reality that Trump is dealing with.

But look, again, to give him credit and congratulations, he's a great negotiator. I think this president, of all of our modern presidents, has earned the benefit of the doubt. To have the summer to figure this out. And so the Republicans in particular who voted for that ridiculous war powers resolution ought to be embarrassed of themselves. Because, first of all, the executive has authority, as we've said at Heritage for 53 years, to wage war for quite a while.

But the real point is this peace negotiation is close. It's been close for weeks. Let the president land the plane. And let's also sit back, just to make one concluding point, Brian, and know that when the president has concluded this conflict, he's going to get back to focusing on the economy. And his policies, especially this term, thinking about Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, Kevin Warshort, the Fed, they are going to generate real economic growth.

I think what his base is saying is: sir, we love you, we support you, we, of course, support our military. We want this very good conflict to come to an end so we can get you back focused on the economy. He's going to figure that out. It's only early June. Right, and Cube is going to be next.

And that's going to be maybe people be indifferent about that. It's transformational. It's going to give our first time to have no Chinese or Russian footprint in our hemisphere. Really, I mean, it's unbelievable it's happened in Central and South America, but that's not the most sexy thing you vote on. I get it in November.

Do you expect The debate stage in 28 to be as crowded as the Democratic debate stage. Do Republicans be as crowded as the Democrats? Or is it just going to be J.D. alone? Yeah, there will probably be a few more candidates in addition to the Vice President.

I take Secretary Rubio's take him at his word. He is a good man. He has been a great leader that he is not going to run if the Vice President does. I thoroughly believe that. I completely believe that, knowing Rubio.

And so I think you could have a couple of niche candidates. You are always going to have that. But I think if the Iran conflict comes to a conclusion and people have two and a half years to realize, oh my gosh, this administration deserves so much credit for establishing real peace in the world, to say nothing of what has happened in our own backyard in Latin America already, potentially in Cuba, and very importantly, Brian, the economy begins to roar, as our chief economist, Dr. E.J. Antoni, says it will once the conflict has come to a conclusion, then I think that the Vice President walks to the nomination.

Where is immigration now? The Minneapolis optics weren't great, but I understand the approach. I think Mark Wayne Mullen is an unbelievable choice, great. But what do you think what do the polls tell you about illegal immigration? That the administration is a victim of its own success, that they have been entirely, categorically successful in closing the southern border, zero border crossings, and they have even been modestly successful on interior enforcement, even though you have 4 million hours.

Yeah, sanctuary cities and counties and states standing in their way. Our mutual friend Tom Homan has been remarkable in that regard. I think if they continue this pace and there aren't any of these blow-ups that the left can use, can exploit to undermine this effort, then I think that this is a very historic presidency also on immigration, which is important for us and our American identity. Right. And what is the focus in the last 30 seconds?

What has Heritage been focusing on? The economy, the economy, the economy.

So we've got an idea. We've been working with leaders in Congress called the American Opportunity Agenda, health care transparency, some permitting reform, some additional tax reform. We think that it's a jump ball, so 50-50 shot at getting this done. This would be called Reconciliation 3.0. We're pushing like heck for this.

Great credit to Speaker Johnson for making it happen. We just need the Senate Republicans to play ball. All right.

Kevin Roberts, so is it the The hub of it all. It's going to be an interesting six months and a great time to celebrate 250, right? Coming up July 4th. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Show. Don't move.

Senator Roger Wicker is next, Chairman of Armed Services, a rare appearance in multimedia operations. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hi one, I'm Brian Kilmead. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show.

And in about 15 minutes, I'll be able to take some calls. But right now, in a matter of moments, we'll be welcoming the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, Senator Roger Wicker of Missouri. Special thanks, Kevin Roberts, for coming in, bringing us up to date on the ramifications of the primaries, where I do not revel in the results of the primaries on the left, even if it makes Democrats more vulnerable in the general. Because some of these people that are vying for Senate seats, like the one in Maine, some of the people that got the, basically it's in a very Democratic district, this radical that was with the blind shake that looks like he's going to win, one by 10 points in the primary, was supported by AOC and company and the socialists that are out there. I think it's crazy the divide that's happening.

dangerous what's happening out there.

So we'll see what's going on.

So, yesterday, Marco Rubio went to Capitol Hill for the second straight day. This time, he went in front of Foreign Relations. He went in front of foreign relations. To tell everyone whatever questions you have, but focus mainly on the Iran war. And here is some of the exchanges yesterday.

This is with Gregory Meeks of New York, Cut20. Yes or no? Did you warn President Trump before the Iran war began that this conflict would drive up cost? On gas, Food, travel, and such the President and the full administration was aware that there would be consequences to action, but the consequences of not having a nuclear weapon were worse than the same. Do you think for a second the Secretary of State Marco Rubio wasn't fully aware of the upside and downside of taking on Iran first time?

That anyone's directly dealt with this instead of directly trying to get some type of deal that nobody else could verify, like the JCPOA? Pretty sure no one's really done that.

So, I want to bring in Senator Roger Wicker right now, who's got his hands full. It's a very consequential week on Capitol Hill. Senator, welcome to Brian Kilmeat Show. Hey, Brian, thanks for having me on. It's good to hear you.

Yeah, same here. I appreciate it. And so there's a lot of interplay. Yesterday, Marco Rubio and the day before, first in front of the Senate, then in front of the House, had to deal with a lot of antics and a lot of hostility towards the Iran war. Senator, where do you stand about this conflict?

Now we're in the eighth week of a two-week pause. Where does Senator Roger Wicker stand?

Well, I supported the President when he bombed the nuclear facilities months ago, and I very much appreciated and supported publicly when he went in and decided finally we needed to take kinetic action. I think the President has been very, very patient. Really, he's had the patience of Job in terms of dealing with people who are Highly unreliable. who have lied every day for really 47 years. And I don't think anybody that's really looking at it fairly could blame the president for giving up on the negotiations and returning to the kinetic action based on everything that we've seen.

So I've been supportive of the president, and he's been great to talk to us. But I do think that possibly he's entertaining in his mind whether we should just go back and finish the job and totally obliterate their military forces there in Iran.

So on armed services, you can only tell me so much, but for the audience. Senator Wicker, how are we doing with armaments? How are we doing with munitions? And is that part of the reason the President's holding off? Yeah.

Well, it's something that we We have to be careful about. We are in good shape with munition and armaments. Clearly, every time we decide to take an action, that has to be factored in. And I think the President is doing that, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. But we are fully capable of doing what the President decides he needs to do i if he finally concludes that that these talks are going nowhere.

I mean, if you think about it, we are supposedly in a ceasefire And yet, even day before yesterday, Iran is Sending ballistic missiles to target American forces in Kuwait. The Iran-backed Hezbollah is Is intent on killing Israelis.

So it doesn't look like it's not the kind of ceasefire that I think historians would have said is a ceasefire historically. There is a lot of attempted death and destruction going on right now.

Well, we're watching in real time. They say the University of War is happening in Ukraine. and the use of drones. In real time, the FAD missile system, which is awesome, and the Patriot missile system, which is great, they say it's being overwhelmed by cheap drones. And even though you can only stop a missile with that, Are we watching a changing warfare and do you think the needs of the Pentagon has changed in real time, Center, over the last 18 months?

Well, I think maybe the last 18 months has accelerated that. But we realized that we need to change the way we do business and the way we acquire weapons and missiles and defensive armaments. And that's why we put so much of my forged act in last year's National Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA, as we call it in shorthand.

So we are absolutely utilizing five, six, seven new start up defense companies who are agile, who can do it quickly and who are learning from our allies in Ukraine how to do things quickly, And less expensively. And that is going to be a major part of the face of warfare from now on. And also, I just have to commend the patriotic people of Ukraine for fighting for their own country. We all thought Russia would overwhelm them in a day or two or a week or so and and um Actually, Ukraine has now become the most powerful army in Europe because they've had to, and they've had the resolve to do it.

So this is a study in warfare that they'll be talking about not just for decades but for centuries. The way Ukraine has rallied together and gotten their industrial base together. And of course, we've learned a lot from them. We have. And they're asking for patriots.

Do we have them to give them? We yes, we could do that to a certain extent, but and that's a calculation the President has to make. But there are so many other things that could be used also. Our delivery of Patriots. It's not the end-all and the be-all.

There are a number of ways we can help them. And of course, you know, we've been helping them with funds so that they could purchase armaments from Their neighboring NATO friends.

So help is getting through, and I hope some more will.

So I think it's very important what you brought up that we're no longer depending on the big four companies: Andoral, Zone 5, Lidos, CoAspire. We watch. Uh Joe Lonsdale's group. Where's Palantir, of course?

So you've immediately interacted, you basically broadened it out.

So, we have other companies we could go to to maybe have these companies compete with each other. I know, I guess, historically, Bill Clinton decided, told everyone to coalesce and come together and make it easier. And what it did is it wiped out competition and a sense of deadline. And that hurt us, didn't it?

Well, there's no question about it. Yes, it's been an amazing turnaround. And also, they've shown they could do it quickly and adapt quickly. at at lower cost. And y yes, I mean, you're you're absolutely correct.

We we don't need to to be uh spending um um Yeah. Million dollars to shoot something down that cost uh thirty thousand uh or or to that scale. It's it's um It's a new day in warfare, and it favors those that are nimble. But also, I tell you, it favors a country who has a resolve. I honestly think the Russians against Ukraine are losing their resolve.

And I think public opinion, to the extent that Putin pays attention to it, public opinion is turning against him.

Now, of course, the The Ayatollahs in Iran and their heirs are not paying attention to the people because the folks there really, frankly, don't have the wherewithal to rise up and overturn this oppressive regime. If the Iranian people found a way to do so, and actually represented the mainstream of opinion there, Iran could be one of the more modern countries in that section of the world, but they don't have the weapons and the guns just yet. Senator Roger Wicker, our guest.

So, Senator, what have we done to help the Gulf states defend themselves should we go back to warfare? Evidently, obviously. Iran thinks their best strategy is to hurt our allies and try to break them away from us. And Kuwait having 65 hurt two days ago is not going to help. And Saudi Arabia pushing us.

And we're going to have to do ballistic missile attacks toward Kuwait. We're doing our best to intercept them. You know, it seems to me, Brian, that our Gulf allies were more supportive later on. And as the talks wear on, And we don't seem to be making any progress. I think our Gulf allies are beginning to think that they just need to get the best deal possible because we're not going to be able to actually end Iran's capability.

My view, on the other hand, would be get back to full scale. Attack on taking down the military capability of this outlaw regime. And then I think it's a lot more inviting to have a Saudi Arabia lead the region in joining, full-fledged the Abraham Accord and moving into the 21st century 26 years too late. But that's what we need to do, and Saudi needs to take the lead there. But to me, the length of time that we bent over backwards with these fruitless negotiations, I would just understand fully if the president decided enough is enough.

Good. And you have a lot of power. And Senator, for Roger Wicker to come out and say that, I think that would mean a lot because it's hard for people to say.

well, he just does whatever Trump wants. No one thinks that about you. You've been there before, we'll be there before. Thank you for saying that. We've been working shoulder to shoulder with President Trump and Secretary Yavseth and yes, as a team, and I appreciate that.

So there's discussions on both sides of the issue. Pros and cons are very much a part of it.

So, Senator, I just want to get you. Yesterday it was announced that Bill Pultey is going to be the acting DNI, and a lot of people are upset by that because he seems to have absolutely no experience. Are you somebody that would have trouble? With that, and would hope the President rethinks it or whatever. First of all, this is an acting.

Position and it it will not come before the Senate for confirmation. I don't know the individual. And so my default position is at first blush to trust the judgment of the President. But I really don't have that much information. And I'm working on trying to.

Get our NDAA bill before the committee. This coming Tuesday and getting it passed, I'm concentrating on that. And I really have not done very much background checking on Mr. Poultium. And that being the case, I'm withholding my comments as someone who just needs more information.

So, Senator, what could you tell us about getting the DHS funded? Is there any way to do that while financing the security portion of the ballroom? Or is it true that that's been gutted, that's been taken out?

Well, we are in the middle of our very first vote of probably we'll take a couple of dozen today, and I do not know where that will end up. But the thing is, we actually very much need to get the Department of Homeland Security open. It's a shame that we have to do it in this unusual reconciliation way, which the American people have a hard time understanding because it's frankly so complicated for us. Um so I hope we can get it open. I do not believe that these other expenditures have to be linked, but we'll see where the votes are.

But the main thing is, we need to get a very important Department of the Government open and running as it should have been, frankly, last October the 1st. You would think, especially with the World Cup here and the Olympics a year away. Senator Roger Wicker, always great to have you on. We should have it on. We should have this happen more.

I know you're busy this week. Thanks so much for the time. Thank you, sir. You got it. 1866-408-7669.

Don't move. It's Brian Kilmade. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Scott Pelley is a pompous kind of a Simpsons character.

Yeah, with a jaw of like this. Kill me. He's like, you're from Texas, dude. He lashed out at Nick Bilton. The new boss of 60 Minutes.

Screaming at your boss in front of everyone, then leaking that to the press. And Nick Bilton says, Do you want to take this private? This seems like getting a little heated right now. And he's like, no, we're going to do this public right now. For me, you, and the New York Times.

This guy just took a job. He's not an Ideologue. He has no background as being an Ideologue. And he's like, you have no experience. Like, how f dare you derating supersede general politeness to a new boss and berating them because you want to record it, send it to the New York Times, make a hero of yourself.

You're not welcome here. It's like, you're not my real dad. He's like, okay, relax.

So that's the fifth column broadcast, and that is Michael Moynihan, Camille Foster, Matt Welch talking about the choice by Scott Pelly to put on a show. and then get fired and then say, I wanted to keep my job. And they came out and said, no, you didn't. You clearly wanted to do this the whole time. And they claim they said Barry Weiss is lying, because behind closed doors, he did try to keep his job.

No, it wasn't. And you don't act like that and try to keep your job. You do you go out because you make 25 million dollars a year, maybe more. For forty years. And you decided that I'm going to leave.

because I don't like the direction CBS is going.

Well guess what else? Oracle founders Uh Oracle just bought CBS. It's been buried in third place for 25, 30 years. 60 Minutes is a success, but nobody looks at it as balanced. It's an interesting magazine with a great legacy, but nobody says, wow, Donald Trump's getting a fair shot there today.

I mean, it's basically in Oregon, look at Leslie Stahl, never apologized for what she did. And they don't like the direction, so Scott Pelly's gone. Good riddance. From high atop. Fox News headquarters in New York City.

Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

Harbor, I'm so glad you're there. It's the Brian Killmeat Chubb from 48-6 in Midtown Manhattan. A lot going on. Everyone's talking in New York, where I'm located, about the Knicks go to San Antonio, play against the favored San Antonio Spurs who just beat the defending champions, and they beat him after trailing at halftime significantly. Dick Stockton's going to be joining me at 11:30, one of America's finest sportscasters ever.

And Doug Schoen, former Clinton advisor, Democratic strategist, and pollster. And because one of the great reasons with Doug, he's a moderate Democrat. And they're gone. You know, Joe Manchin, Kristen Sinema, I think Fetterman would be the last one. I don't even think Fetterman would call himself a moderator.

I think he's just a common sense guy. But what is happening to that party? Let's get to the big three. Number three: What are your concerns about AI developers obtaining approval from the U.S. government?

My understanding of the current EO is not that it's approval, but it's early testing. But I think as these models get more powerful, there will need to be increasingly strong frameworks to ensure that we can meet the safety guarantees we want to need. All right, that was good from Mr. OpenAI. Not A-OK, AI isn't with lawmakers.

Many graduates, as it promises to change every aspect of their lives, aren't happy. We talk about the regulation that does not stifle growth and advancement, and the EO that's coming our way. Number two. We're going to have to stop them from having a nuclear weapon. That's what we've done.

And they've agreed to that. By the way, they, I mean, if they signed the agreement, they will have agreed to, we will not have a nuclear weapon. Democrats primary, excuse me, frustrating is the only way to describe a two-week ceasefire now in its eighth week with Iran. We got the latest on the talks, which are highlighted by low-level attacks. Number one.

It wasn't like I subpoenaed him. It wasn't like the government brought him in as a hostile witness. What he ended up saying on cross-examination was that the blind sheikh talked about jihad all the time making war against the United States. Democrats, primary season, primary season is reaffirming that it has become a radical far-left party. We look at the radical in New Jersey that just got elected, an unhinged maniac running for Senate in Maine, and we wait and watch the results in California who can't even count their ballots.

It is so frustrating. And by the way, if you ever missed the show, youtube.com slash at the Brian Kilmey Show. It's got highlights in the complete show after and other things that I'm doing throughout the network. Let's bring in Doug Schoen, former Clinton advisor, Democratic strategist, and pollster, also a key advisor to Mayor Bloomberg when he was running for president and retaining that mayor's slot. And he did a fantastic job as mayor.

Even when you look back now, you appreciate him more and more after you see the incompetence we're dealing with now. Hey, Doug, are you worried about your party? I'm very worried, Brian. We've had these conversations for a lot of years, but I've never been more worried. How can somebody who thinks like I do Support.

Graham Platiner. The guy in New Jersey, I guess it's it's Hamaway or they're Dr. Hamaway or thereabouts. I mean, he was a confederate and confidant of the blind sheik. I can't say he was complicit, but he was pretty darn close to being complicit.

Why he would deal with a man like this. I can't say why people would nominate him is beyond my ability to reason. He's going to get in office because it's a bright blue district, so he won the nomination, so that means he's going to go in. Here's Andy McCarthy, who prosecuted the blindshake, cut nine. It wasn't like I subpoenaed him.

It wasn't like the government brought him in as a hostile witness. He volunteered to testify for this guy. He knew exactly who he was. What he ended up saying on cross-examination was that the blind sheikh talked about jihad all the time and in fact at that conference had talked about making war against the United States.

So everybody knew who this guy was.

So, I mean, you can't even duck it. He volunteered and testified. Here's what Hamawi said. Cut eight. 30 years ago he's a well-known person in the community.

He spoke all over New Jersey and he was a blind old man that people volunteered when he needed some kind of service because he couldn't take care of himself. And so that's kind of all the association is. There was nothing back then and there's nothing now. So By that explanation, he also volunteered in the Gaza hospital. Underneath that hospital with tunnels where Hamas was getting in and out, he wants to shut off the Iron Dome and wants us to stop supplying any type of military weapons to Israel.

So another anti-Israel candidate.

Well, I I think he's more than anti-Israel. Given his association with the blind sheik, and the fact that he doesn't even say that it was a mistake. Given what's happened both then and now, Brian, I think he's pretty darn close to being against America and against our values.

So, I'm going to let you hear Fetterman to make you feel a little bit better. Yeah, so we were talking about the main candidate. Graham Plattner.

So we know now that he was sexting on a teen dating site. And he said, well, I have PTSD. You know, I went through rough times. I went to counseling. Here's Senator John Vetterman.

People say, well, I'm sure he's not a saint. It's like, yeah, definitely. He's definitely not a saint. Clearly, he has an entire history of saying the most abhorrent things.

So that's here as a Democrat That that's uh You know, the last time we really got all in on a guy that was sending vulgar and inappropriate and sexual kinds of things, that was Swalwell.

So I feel like we've been warned. And a guy that just a couple of months ago said, oh, oh, there's no more scandals. And here we are now. And now, oh, no, no, now we don't have any more now.

Well, clearly he lied back then.

So he's been dishonest through the entire thing.

So now people are saying worse is going to come out, and the Wall Street Journal reports behind closed doors that they asked Platinum flat out: Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, is more coming?

So he's got a week until the primary. What are the mechanics of this, Doug? You've been through so many things. Remember with Bill Clinton, all the scandals that popped up when he was governor?

So and you know what it's like to be in in ty you don't know if you're to be in part of a campaign, you don't know if it's going to implode or not. He ended up becoming president twice.

So what's happening in that campaign office, do you think? Sure.

Well, what's happening is Warren and Sanders, his principal benefactors, are saying, look, if there's more, we will call on the Democrats in Maine and around the country not to support you, to disavow you. and to encourage you to drop the race. If that happens, it'll be very difficult. if not impossible for Platinar to con continue. beyond the realm of logic that he would.

But As a practical matter, if his major supporters and the party abandon him. Uh I give Susan Collins, a very clear not. My own take is everything I've seen, and I'll be personal about it, about Senator Fetterman. Senator Fetterman moved to the center after election and a mental health crisis, which he freely acknowledged, and he was hospitalized for. To me, that's courage.

But his staff, who was far left, Quit and all said he was crazy.

Well, I mean, you can't have it both ways. You can't, as he says, Do what Swalwell did and what Plattner's done. and get away with it. And it isn't that you're crazy if you move to the center. but you're forgivable if you are on the far left.

So I hope Plattner abandons his candidacy. I feel better. I think the Democrats would feel better and the country would be better off.

Okay, so the other big story is about the Democratic side: Joe Biden's got his memoir coming out, and Jill Biden's got one now. At which time, when she gets on all these interviews, no Republicans are forcing this, this is her. She's trying to rewrite history, in my view, knowing full well what she's saying is not correct. About not getting up in the morning, not knowing who won the election, fully believing that Kamala was gonna win, and that Joe would be able to have beat Donald Trump, and that I thought he was having a stroke. He hasn't acted catatonic like that before or since.

And then out of nowhere, while she's trying to explain herself and no one's buying it, at the 92nd Street Y, Joe Biden just stands up and starts yelling at her. Listen to this, cut 50.

Okay. Thank you, Joe. Oh, Joe has a question. Like you couldn't ask it later. Who do you love most in the whole world?

Whoopi. Yep. And he kept shouting it over and over again, and he looked like he was in slow motion.

So your thoughts about why Joe Biden's doing this besides the money?

Well, it's the money, the attention and I guess the personal validation. I would have thought, given what happened, the best course of action for her would have been not to have published or to have published but tried to be empathetic. to a difficult situation her husband faced. and be empathetic in a personal way. if not a political way.

Obviously, she chose a different way and You know, it sort of speaks for itself, doesn't it, Brian?

So, in a way, though, among Democratic operatives, they're not happy having to look back at 24, and then the autopsy was the week before that.

So, and then Joe Biden will bring them back again where they were divided. You know, some people say Joe Biden was wrong.

Some people thought Kamala Harris was wrong to run. Other people say he was selfish, Joe Biden, to stay in office and try to run. And of course, the messaging with that 100 days, the billions of dollars that were wasted, it just brings up bad memories.

So if you're a Democrat trying to win the midterms or win in 28, how do you handle this?

Well To me, and your question, I think presupposes the answer I'm going to give. You want to look forward. and talk about affordability, about ending the war. About protecting the environment, about fairness and equity in government. irrational immigration Policy.

You don't want to repree 2024. You don't want to hear from Joe and Jill Biden. You want to move forward. But uh the Bidens and the Democratic Party apparently haven't gotten the message, Brian. I want you to hear this exchange.

This is actually a good follow-up. Jill Biden uh being read an excerpt from Kamala Harris's book. In her book, she alludes to a much more fractured relationship between the Bidens and the Yetmoffs. She writes that your family asked if she and Doug were loyal to your family. And she wrote that her husband, Doug, said they hide you away for four years, give you impossible Bleeping jobs, don't correct the record when those tasks are mischaracterized.

Never fight back when you're attacked. Never praise your accomplishments. And then, he added, and still they have to ask if we're loyal. Yeah.

How does How do you respond to that? You know, I never saw that. I never felt that way with Kamala and Doug. I thought we were a great team. You look shocked.

Yeah, I mean, it's um. I don't know. We were a team. What are your thought what's the reality there? I think the reality is when she became Vice President.

And Joe Biden realized what voters in the presidential primaries realized in 2020 that she's not really ready for prime time. She wasn't ready for prime time as Vice President. She wasn't ready to be border czar. And she certainly was not ready to be a candidate for 107 days against Donald Trump. I I I I can understand why Doug Inhoff said what he did.

But again, To my way of thinking, this shows, as your words, how fractured the relationship was, how inept she was as vice president. And frankly, I saw Clinton and Gore, whatever their differences, work well together. His team had very little chemistry and very little positive interaction, I thought. She had an opportunity when she was named Borders Aurora to fix it. Instead, she ignored it.

And you look at J.D. Vance, he was given fraud. I mean, I'm watching a press conference a week with fraud in Republican states like Ohio. It's not just, you know, just a crackdown.

So he was given that job specifically. He was asked to go to Pakistan and negotiate.

So, you know, one person looks at this as an opportunity. Mike Pence was awesome as a vice president. I thought Al Gore was a great vice president. George H.W. Bush was fantastic.

Dick Cheney. Does anyone doubt that Dick Cheney was a busy, authentic person? I don't care if you agree with everything or nothing. He had a real portfolio. Those days of a vice president being an empty suit are over.

She had this unbelievable opportunity. She wasted it. And they're blaming each other.

So lastly, who do you want on that debate stage, Doug, on 28, when we get through the midterms, win or lose, take take the house, lose the house, whatever? Who do you hope is on the debate stage?

Well, I will say this. It's a little too early for me to give a definitive answer. I'm not making an endorsement today nor telling you who's going to be nominated. They're all a group of, I think, the seven or eight candidates competent and skilled debaters. I think the party one needs a centrist and moderate philosophy.

But I will say this, having watched The only one of the group who's had the courage to appear on Fox and debate. which would be uh Gavin Newsom. from California. He held his own with Sean Hannity. And I thought did a pretty good job.

Whether he's qualified already to be President, I'm not sure. He's got to explain what's happened in California, explain his comments on the Middle East and Israel. But he's a good and skilled debater, as are the rest. We will have to wait till 2027 and 2028 to see, Brian. Yeah, I got AOC up there, Gavin Newsom up there, Kamala Harris up there, Shapiro, Bashir, no question about it.

Mark Kelly, I think, is running. Chris Murphy, I think, is running. That is just off the top of my head. And of course, Ram Emmanuel, who seems to be the most likely conclusion. That's nine.

That's ten. I just think.

Okay, we lost. I just think the party needs a philosophy. Yes. Undergird. And I just wish it was center left for the good of the country.

Center right to center left. The extremes are not going to work. You're not going to get anything passed. You're going to inflame the country. And, Doug, you get that more than most.

Doug Schoen, former Clinton advisor, Mike Bloomberg advisor, Democratic strategist, and poster. Thank you so much. Thanks Doug. Back in a moment. Both sides, all opinions, it's Brian Killmee.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. The onus is on you to prove that there is no corruption happening. That is your responsibility as the Secretary of State. And you know what?

Normally, we would have access to that data. That's the transparency. You just don't know where it is. But you're not showing us any receipts.

Well, then show us. Show the receipts. Have the documentation. You don't have this time yet. What kind of thing is this?

What is this? You get asked questions for five minutes and you don't get time to answer. It's not a hearing. They just said clouds. What is that?

It was. I mean, this woman was just yelling, and then she tried to score points on Rubio. I would just say this. I know you don't like Pam Bondi and you constantly spar with Pete Hegseth. But you've known Marco Rubio for twenty years.

And if you've ever met him, even though he isn't never, he was never in the house, everybody knows Rubia.

So why don't you just use that advantage of if you disagree with everything President Trump is doing, why don't you just ask a question? And then say, here's my problem with Iran, here's my problem with Cuba, here's my problem with. Venezuela I wish it didn't help. Argentina I think you've alienated Canada. What about?

So, and just hear what they have to say, and then you listen. And then you come back again. And if that ends up being an exchange that helps your career, that's fine. That's called good QA with. But he's so competent.

Trying to score on him and say that he was wearing shoes that were too big because Donald Trump gave it to him. You got the wrong guy. Same thing with Mark Wayne Mo and telling him to shut up. And you think that you make him look bad? Seems to be obvious when we come back to Dick Stockton, one of America's finest sportscasters, on the Knicks Spur series.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Back to Brunson. Quarter three is up. Bang!

Jalen Brunson from downtown. And the Knicks take a two-point lead. Under a minute to play, triples it off his foot. Mark picks up the loose ball. Brunson on the drive, spins underneath, puts it up, puts it in.

Jalen Brunson. Brunson does it again. It's a six-point lead with 37 seconds. Champeny launches his three-plunner. Marked yet another rebound after Brunson, and the Spurs won't foul.

It's now 12 consecutive wins for the Knicks as they take game one of the NBA Finals. Their seventh consecutive road game. One of the great playoff runs in NBA history is still alive. And not many people predicted it. You know, if you take the Golden State Warriors when they're at their zenith and they did this, okay, you know, just a historic team.

All right, well the Lakers when they were at their best with Magigore, the Celtics that they did something like that in the eighties.

Okay, that's an historic team. But when you're the three seed in the East and you haven't been back to the finals since nineteen ninety nine, haven't won a championship since nineteen fifty three, And then you go wheel off 12 straight wins after falling behind to the Hawks two games to one. And then have two straight sweeps and then beat San Antonio on the road. I love, this is what I love about sports when things just buck all logic. And then to think the way that game started, the way it was half, and the way it would end, led the way it did.

Very typical the way the Knicks do it. And they would do it. Jalen Brunson, a 6'2-inch guy, when everyone was focused on the 7'5-inch center on the other team. Dick Stockton has seen it all, called it all, might be one of America's finest play-by-play guys ever, is kind enough to join us now. Dick, welcome to Brian Killmeat Show.

Brian, good to be on with you. And I know that you've followed the sports like I have. You're the sports expert on Fox News. I know that. But it's not exactly like doing ESPN in Fox Sports.

But I understand what you're saying.

So, Dick, I read your column. You have your. You put up your columns pretty regularly now. And one of the things you said is you were really getting disenchanted with the NBA until you started seeing that Oklahoma City San Antonio series and watching some of the playoffs and the way they're moving the ball again. Could you tell us what is attracting you back to the league?

Very easy, Brian. I see the combination of athleticism and decision-making by athletes who are faster, stronger, taller, obviously, as we look at Wemby, as I've ever seen before. You know, I was disenchanted because I thought teams during the regular season would come down and willy-nilly shoot threes without trying to work a play, but that's not the way it was in the Thunders Fur series, and that's not what I saw in game number one. And I really think the NBA has reached heights that I didn't even think that they would get to. Don't you love the fact that you're not looking at Steph Curry and LeBron James and the big players coming together on an all-star team because they're friends and they force their way on, and then we watch them get to the finals instead.

When you look at the Knicks, They were painstakingly put together. And Brunson was off the bench in Dallas. They became their number one star. Not many people predicted that. Even his former college coach, Jay Wright said, I didn't think he'd ever be this good.

Number two pick. And then, you know, Carl Anthony Towns, which you've seen him do, soft on defense and expendable to other teams. You know, one of the better players, but never a superstar. But they're emerging before your eyes. Teams actually getting better like they used to, instead of just being put together.

Well, we've seen it happen in all sports where somebody doesn't produce in one place, but the chemistry is right in another place. And this is where I have to credit Mike Brown, the head coach, because last year they fired Tom Thibodeau, who after beating the Celtics, didn't get to the finals. And I kind of disagreed with that, because a lot of times teams say, well, you know, we'll get someone better to get us over the hump. And often maybe that's as good as they're ever going to be, and they fall off the totem pole. But that's not what happened with Mike Brown.

I was wrong about that because he has had the, besides the vast experience as a head coach, he listens to other people. He's not in a cave saying, I'm going to make this decision.

So when he hears opinions that make sense, he goes with it, which make the players and the front office seem comfortable with him. And of course, the bench. That's something that the Knicks did not use under Thibodeau before. They're using it now. And the bench on both teams are are going to be factors in this series as we move along.

And so Mike Brown deserves a lot of credit, and I think that he has created and allowed them to have the chemistry and the togetherness.

Now you say, well, doesn't every team have that? I think teams that are on the brink of winning championships like the Thunder, like the Spurs and the Knicks are now, have that. Yeah, I want you to hear from Mike Brown too. Cut 44. In the first half, they kicked our behind in transition.

They got out the way we calculated. They had 24 fast break points in the first half. In the second half, they had nine fast break points, so we did a better job of getting back. We got to get back, we got to load. We can't buddy run because they have quick athletic players, and then you got Wimby coming, and he could shoot the three or get to the rim.

You know, we were more efficient ourselves in transition in the second half, and we got to keep trying to push the pace because these guys are too good to go against their set defense all the time. Getting 23-second chance points compared to their 14 was big, especially with the amount of free throws that they had compared to ours. We had to find other ways to score. It's true. And in fact, he only hit six.

Wemby only hits six from the floor. The rest were in free throws. And Mike Brown says he doesn't think his team played well. Jalen Brunson says, I don't think we played well. That's kind of scary.

You win on the road in game one and you don't think you played well.

Well, it is. I do know this, and I think fans should realize this. I don't believe in momentum in sports, even though the Knicks have shown it with 12 straight wins and everything, because next game is going to be a totally different game on the floor. And I think what you see is the Spurs coming out, and they know it's kind of a desperate situation for them because they must win game number two.

Now, I don't believe home court is that dominant when you get to this, as evidenced by the Spurs winning in Oklahoma City. Knicks winning last night, a great win for them. Look, you can't take anything away from the Knicks. They're the hottest team in the NBA right now. And with a guy who's, you know, 6'2, if he is 6'2, being the guy that ignites everything is a tremendous thing.

But next game will be different. And Wembanyama always seems to come back from a tough game.

So you'll see a different kind of game. I'm not saying the Spurs will win game two. I don't predict games. But I think that you're going to... See a totally different evolution of a game when they play the second game of the series.

And Brian, I go back to my career, the Memorial Day massacre in 1985 when the Celtics beat the Lakers by 34 points in game one at Boston Garden. Kareem had 12 points and only three rebounds. Imagine Kareem with three rebounds. And then the next game in Boston, the Lakers won, and the Lakers ended up beating the Celtics in game six in Boston Garden, something the Celtics had never done before losing.

So you really don't know how this is going to play out. But right now, the Knicks have to feel very good about themselves. Right. I want you to hear what Shaq said. He knows the position center.

Keep in mind, Webinyama is four inches bigger than Shaq. Cut 47. You got to do a better job of making adjustments. Senator Antonio definitely has to adjust. Coach said it, we got to get Victor the ball a little bit more inside.

And for Victor, Got to play better. You know, the way he played, not good at all. Six to 21 is not going to get it done. Shooting. 10-3 points is not going to get it done.

So you've got to make some self-adjustments and some mental adjustments. And you have to say, we cannot lose game two. And Dick, you're the expert, Dick Stockton. But I just don't, I thought Carl Anthony Towns looked like he couldn't wait to take him one-on-one. And how many times did he just blow by him, spin through him?

You would think he'd be worried about the 23-year-old 7'5-inch center with this athleticism. But Towns was not at all. He was aggressively going at him. The question is, Brian, can they do it that way again in the next game? Because you know that the Spurs are going to come out.

And I remember Pat Riley talking about this Physical. They are going to up the physical ante in game number two. And you can say, well, the Knicks can answer that.

Well, maybe they can. Who knows? But you know it's going to be more physical in the game. And we may see a little flare-up as we've seen in Lakers Celtics series in the past, you know, with Kurt Rambus and Kareem and all of those people. We've seen it happen before, and it looks like that possibility could emerge again.

I'm not saying I want fights, I'm not saying I want that kind of thing, but I think that if the Spurs rev up their physical aspect, which I think they will, this is a great team, by the way, and the youngest starting five in the history of NBA Finals, we're looking at here in San Antonio.

So I think they're going to raise the physical level. And the question is: the Knicks, after doing it and being successful, can you match it again? That's why teams that players that have off games who are great players come back. They don't often have two back-to-back bad games. I haven't seen it often.

Dick Stockton with us now. Dick, it sounds like you want to jump out there and do play-by-play again. Do you miss it? I think Mike Breen has done a great job. I mean, he has blown past Marv Albert and myself for doing the most finals.

I did nine, Marv did nine, and he's in the 20s right now.

So I don't think they need me anymore. I enjoy my perch watching this thing happen.

Well, where were you in 73 when the Knicks last won in 71 and 73 when they won, and they were contending with DeBusha and Willis Reed and Bill Bradley and Bill Jackson? Yeah.

Well, I was coming off doing the sports on the newscast at KDKA in Pittsburgh and WBZ in Boston, and I was freelancing in New York in 1973 when the Knicks won, and that was a magical time. And, of course, the great romantic story of Willis Reed, who was unable to play, coming out and hitting his first two shots, those were the great moments for the Knicks. I know they got back in 99, losing to the Spurs, who, by the way, became a dynasty in their own right and beat the Knicks in 99 when that started all of the dynasty. But that was the greatest time for the Knicks, you know, when they won those two championships, Bill Bradley. I think when people say the greatest, I'm not into greatest of all time discussions much because we know, especially in basketball, Brian, it changes.

No one talks about Oscar Robertson anymore and Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell. They say, who are they if you're 30, 40 years old, or maybe even 50? But I remember them, and I said, no one will be as good as these guys, but they are. And they get better. And that's why, you know, Wemby has a chance, you know, and I said we shouldn't talk about it, but maybe he'll surpass Michael Jordan in that realm.

So is Brunson the best Knick ever? I wouldn't say that. They're still playing, but the Knicks have a great igniter in this guy, and we'll see what happens. I mean, I don't predict results because nobody knows. It's like the weather.

So I want you to hear the coach of the Spurs, where they go from here. Cut 45, Miss Johnson. Missed a few shots early. And we got to get him moving in space and towards the rim, whether that's on rolls. We're running in transition, but we need the pressure on the rim.

and the force and the paint. And then they did a good job obviously being physical and showing crowds, but You know, we need a Do a better job of establishing that early on for sure.

So let's see. Let me just comment on that. And he's right about that, Mitch Johnson, but it's all about ebbs and flows.

So a team that comes out early lead usually ends up losing the lead. Look what happened last night. It was a fourteen point deficit. And finally, in the fourth quarter, the Spurs had the lead before Brunson hit the three from the corner.

So it's the ebb and flows. But I usually think whatever happens, the fourth quarter really decides, and maybe the last six minutes of the fourth quarter decides unless you're totally blown out by then.

So, Dick, in the big picture now, I don't know if you understand. It's been so long since the Knicks were successful, 53 years. Do you get the sense of what's going on in the city, how pumped up they are? I'm not saying they're not pumped up in San Antonio, but they do. It wasn't too long ago when they had Tim Duncan and David Robinson winning championships with Tony Parker.

Do you have a sense of New York ready to be erupt? Do you see the cutaways of Radio City and people watching in the streets? Basketball has been the sport in New York. I know the baseball teams, the football, the Giants, Jets, and all that. It's been a basketball city, and I'm not demeaning the Rangers or any of those teams, but it's been a basketball city.

It's the street game. It's the games played in Harlem on the street yard, the schoolyards, and all of that. Basketball is great. And when the Knicks do well, the city is electric. There's no question about it.

I lived in New York City for 25 years, and I saw what it was like. And so this has really been-I think everyone in New York City who's crossing 6th Avenue now in front of that office is a smile on his face. Absolutely. You do know the area. And lastly, the World Cup.

I don't know your soccer background, but no one can doubt the magnitude of what's going to be happening here: 105 games over the course of, I guess, six, seven weeks, culminating at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. What's this tournament going to be like? Put it in perspective, Dick.

Well, I think, you know, first of all, I honor you as being the soccer expert as you have been for decades. And I follow it when we have the World Cup, but I think it's the world's best It's better than the Olympics. It's the world's best thing, and having it in the United States and ending up in New York is going to be great. And people will know that it's not just the USA. They'll see the other great teams from around the country.

I think that this couldn't be a better thing than the 250th birthday of our country to have the world's best sport. They talk about football. We know what football is. It's going to be played in the United States and end up in New York. Yeah, when you saw Team USA capture the imagination of Americans when they won the Olympic gold, who don't even watch hockey or follow the NHL, they watch those games.

And you could see if the U.S. team can get it going, get out of the knockout round in first, win a couple of games and get to the round of eight or 16, that would be something. Ride the waves of what we have going. And it's, you can say, it all started with the NBA Finals. You know, it's so funny, it's like interviewing you, I feel like I'm in the booth.

It's like you're picking up my last sentence and building on it. You're such a pro. Dick, thanks so much. You should be in the booth, but thank you for having me on. Thank you.

Yeah, we'll talk next week as the series moves on. Dick Stockton, what a thrill. Thanks so much. Back in a moment. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else.

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The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Sponsored by Previgen. Previgen made for your brain. I made a crack there talking about the Scott Pelley news as being sort of Hungarian oligarchic style take over the media.

And I mean that sort of as a joke, but also sort of deadly serious. This is like an underwater earthquake at CBS News to be like Scott Pelley. They're burning it all down. Because they want to please Donald Trump boycott every thing on CBS News. These people are the biggest Bunch of Okay, let me tell you who you just heard from.

Rachel Maddow. Brian Stelter of CNN, who's going to have as an employee Oracle Ball Paramount, which owns CNN. And Terry Moran used to be on ABC, and he was asked to leave too because of his bias. And I don't think they're getting rid of it. I think everyone's missing.

I've never met Barry Weiss, but I think everyone's missing the point. CBS has been withering. The worst morning show, the worst. The the worst evening newscast. And even though Sixty Minutes had good ratings, it was looked at as bias.

Like, for example, SNL. It's supposed to be a comedy show. It's it got ratings aren't terrible. But it's a biased network. You can no longer fair and balance.

Stephen Colbert lost all that money. But bottom line is, it was comedy in there, but it was 70% of it wasn't.

So they're saying we just got to straighten this out because it's losing money.

So, one thing we can do is change the perceptions. We're going to change the people. And the arrogance in which we're seeing when Scott Pelley spoke up, Sharon Alfonse was outraged. He was not renewed, and he was fired. And you don't get up and say what he said: say you're not worthy.

Your resume is thin. I don't think you can do the job. You were brought here to burn it down, and I'm not going to sit. Anyone who talks to their boss like that, any work, I don't care if you're. you know, laying cable in the bottom of the ocean.

In the middle of it in a ship, and you start putting down your boss. Who's the captain of that ship? You fired.

So, why would it be any different? The good news for Scott Pelley probably made $30 million a year for the last 40 years. And he can go hang out at the beach. Or you can go get a podcast and see how hard it is to do it yourself without a network behind you. Don't forget One Nation Sunday at 10 o'clock.

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