Trump calls for unity in record breaking RNC speech; More dems want Biden out...

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killer. Hello, everyone. For the final time, I come to you from Milwaukee, right across from the convention center, the site of all the festivities over the past four days, past five days, actually, four days. It started really Monday through Thursday.

Today is all wrap-up. You can see the security. You can actually walk around without any problems. I have strange people not patting me down. It's weird not to be touched by people in uniform.

And I'm going to have to get used to my old life because we're going to be back. But we have a lot to go over because the president finished it up with his speech yesterday, about 10 minutes ago. And we also had a lot of great speakers, a lot of enthusiasm, and the place was packed to the rafters. Mark Thiessen's going to be with us today. He's sitting right to my left.

Is Jason Miller Allison going to be here or calling? Actually, he's going to be here. That's fantastic. The President of the United States left already. He left last night.

That's one of the advantages to having your own plane. Mark Thiessen had an opportunity to get his own plane, but he wants to be with the people. He wants to be in airports. He likes the candy shops and the gift shops. And the souvenir shops and to buy t-shirts.

So he does not have a plane. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Joe Biden's future, which looks bleak. And we'll also talk about the assassination investigation, which is not going quick enough. Mark Thiessen, former chief speechwriter for George W.

Bush, Fox News Contributor, Washington Post columnist. Welcome back. Good to be with you. Where would you rate the week at the convention? You've been to how many conventions?

I've been basically since 96, since one in 1996 in San Diego. I know it's hard to remember all of them, but where would you put this? It was a really well-done convention. First of all, I was going to say, we were talking at the beginning of the program before we came on. You said you're glad to have me on, but unless you can find a better guest.

And I walk in here and you got Hulk Hogan. I'm like, he found a better guest. All right. That is true. And so no convention.

So if you think back to previous conventions, George W. Bush was introduced by George Pataki. Mitt Romney was introduced by Jeb Bush and Newt Gingrich, and Donald Trump was introduced by Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, and Tina White from Ultimate Fighting. If that doesn't tell you how conventions have changed in my lifetime, I don't know what does. How about the fact that Trump, you bigger than life, behind him, all the bulbs, all the, it would look like Las Vegas.

Yeah. And then when the podium plays... It was the Elvis back. It really was. And then out of the floor comes the podium in real time.

And as he touches the podium, it turns to the White House behind him. I mean, can you appreciate that? The only thing that would have been better is if he came up on a rafter on a lift out of the bottom of the stage and then jumped up in the air. That would have been good, but we're making a mockery of one of the most dramatic moments in modern time, which six days ago, do you believe it was six days ago with the attempted assassination? And yesterday we found out that the director of the Secret Service did brief.

The former president on what happened that day and where the investigation is. The president's in a tough spot when it comes to that. You know why? Because these are the people he's with every day. And if he's very critical of them, he's got to make sure to disseminate between what took place and the people that would sacrifice their lives for him.

And they did. They jumped on him. You just saw the courage of the Secret Service in real time. And by the way, some of these people who are criticizing the female officers and stuff like that, that woman jumped on top of him and was covering him with her body. And he praised them in the speech last night.

But the director of the Secret Service, the idea that she hasn't resigned yet is so outrageous. The job of the Secret Service is to protect the President. The President got shot. You're the head of the Secret Service. You resign.

This is not hard. And it goes to what Trump said during the debate. He said, Under this guy, nobody gets fired. Nobody got fired for Afghanistan. Nobody got fired for the border.

And now nobody is getting fired for the president getting shot. But you know what? Why? He's not even in contact. He hasn't had a cabinet meeting in nine months.

I don't think he even knows who runs the Secret Service. There's no pressure on him to do anything. Jeff Zeitz is not the second coming of Andy Card, not sitting there saying this is the way you do it. This president doesn't give press conferences until recently, doesn't do interviews. I really think, Mark, when they write the story of the Biden administration, it's going to be nobody's in charge.

They just do whatever they think their job is, and there's almost no supervision. That's my opinion of what's going on because I don't even think he's in touch. He thought the director was a man. Yeah. No, he misgendered him.

Yeah. Misgender her. Right. And then he forgot. I thought it was a firing offense for the left to misgender somebody.

I think we would. We've lowered the bar significantly for this president. Yesterday, he also, with Ed Gordon of the BEVET, called the Secretary of Defense a black man. The black man. Because he couldn't remember his name.

And he says he's gotten backlash for naming a black Secretary of Defense. And what era is he living in? Nobody cares at all the color of the skin of the Secretary of Defense. We would like a guy a little bit more active that talked to people, that explained what we were up to, slow-walking weapons in Ukraine, and what's going on with Israel deciding what weapons they can and can't get. I would love to know how it feels about the Houthi rebels.

Last night I was on the phone with a Secret Service agent, excuse me, a CIA agent, and he told me that we're going to hear about it soon: that Iran just hit our base in Iraq with a drone.

So I I would love to hear from our Secretary of Defense once in a while. I know we can't always have Rumsfeld, but I would like something close.

Well, yeah, well, I mean, who knows if he's on the job? He disappeared for a week and nobody knew. More than a week. Yeah. And he was having surgery.

That's what you're referring to. And the black person who ends up on the Supreme Court, he didn't remember that.

So, so panicked all the time. He also forgot about Colin Powell, Condi Rice, first black chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, appointed by a Republican. Oh, this black Secretary of State appointed by the Republican. First black woman Secretary of State appointed by a Republican.

So apparently, but there must have been a lot of blowback for that. Do you have any of the hate mail from hiring Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell? Do you have any with you? Get George Briska? I left my suitcase.

In your satchel? Yeah, exactly.

Okay, so back to the hotel. Mark Thiessen, our guest. Mark, I'll go back to the original. I thought Danai was brilliant. Just came from the heart.

I thought Hulk Hogan was fantastic. Came from the heart. You know, they dug American Badass because that's what Don Jr. called him when he called him and knew he was survived and only got his ear cut. After a bullet went whizzing by his head, called him a badass.

So that's why Kid Rock was here. Eric did a great speech. I thought it was great, it was personal. When it came to the president, I love the way it started. Yeah.

And here's a little of When he talks about not only accepting a nomination, he talks about what he experienced. And he said, Do you think he'll hold to this? This is the only time he's going to talk about a cut-three. If the events of last Saturday make anything clear, it is that every single moment we have on earth is a gift from God. We have to make the most of every day for the people and for the country that we love.

The attacker in Pennsylvania wanted to stop our movement, but the truth is the movement has never been about me. It has always been about you. And he went on. Uh as Bill Malusian reported, he went off the prompter. Breaking tonight.

I mean, not just went off the prompter, he added 45 minutes to the speech. And you have a theory.

So, well, first of all, let's talk about what's good about the speech. That section that you just referred to, the first 10 minutes. First of all, the funniest moment was when he put the chart up and he said, Without that chart, I wouldn't be here. I mean, literally, a chart saved his life. I think that's going to be at every Trump rally from now until the end of the election.

The first 10 minutes talking about how painful it is, it's so painful I'm only going to tell the story once, the call for unity. You could hear a pin drop in the room when he started to tell this story. And the detail, and the love that he talked about the love in the audience. Instead of stampeding, they all were just waiting to see if he was okay. It was just such a moving presentation of this.

And then he pivoted. Instead of, as a speech writer, I used to write these kinds of speeches, you build up this emotional capital with the story. And then you get to spend it on something, right? And so what did he choose to spend it on? He sh he could have pivoted to that to a call for unity, a call to put accord uh aside the discord, accord uh to come together as a nation and rally around an agenda to to lift the country up.

And instead, in the text, it wasn't an ad lib, he pivoted to The judge in the Florida case, in the documents case. And the law fair. And I get that he's got a grievance against the law fair because they're waging lawfare against him, but this wasn't the moment for that. And then he went into a Trump rally.

Now, he didn't need to do a Trump rally at that moment. What he needed to do was speak not to the people in that hall, he needed to speak to the people outside of the hall. There are millions of Americans whose hearts have been opened to him because of what happened on Saturday. are disappointed with Joe Biden. And are not sure about Donald Trump.

And they wanted they were tuning in to see, is this a guy I feel comfortable putting into the Oval Office? And he's the first ten minutes, absolutely, and then he went into this Trump rally. My theory is, I think he needed to finish the rally. I think he fell he had he was shot in the middle of a rally ten minutes into a rally, and he needed to be with his people. His people needed to be with him.

They were there in the room. It was a room full of love. And he decided. on the fly To finish the rally. But that was, and I get that.

I can't imagine what it feels like to have been shot and to have been missed by that close and the feeling you have of the bond you have with the people who were there and who were there in that hallway. But that just wasn't the moment for it. He needed to speak to a different audience than he did. Two, an hour and 53 minutes is as long as it was. Yeah, an hour and 53, right?

Yeah, I think so.

So it was the longest speech in the history of conventions. You know, there was a lot of substance in it. We know where he stood. I think the people there were happy. They were all Trump fans, but you always want to think about the people that are out there who are on the other side of the camera.

So here's the reason for that, okay? His base was already behind him. But after Saturday His base will walk over broken glass to vote for him in November. He does not need to pour any gasoline on that fire. It is raging.

Those people are ready. They want to go. He should be spending every waking moment, every action, every word, focused on convincing millions of Americans who don't want Biden but are not convinced that they want to put him back in the Oval Office. That should be everything his campaign is focused on: unity, lifting people up, bringing those people together, giving those people permission to vote in their self-interest. And what's troubling to me is that at this moment, that was the moment he needed to do that, he didn't do it.

Or at least he didn't complete it. He started it. And I think he needs to focus on that going forward.

So, how was he received? I mean, we hit the CNN panels, MSMBC panel, to figure out if he's converted anybody. Van Jones, cut 15. This whole thing is like this, and it's what? Hey guys, the last time I was in a convention that felt like this was Obama 2008.

There's something happening. He went on. There was something happening.

Now, a lot of people would have edited that and let him finish his thought, but not our show. We like to stop. We like to stop mid-thought and let you figure out what exactly he was going to say next.

So, but he went on. I watched this live and he went on to say. You do all the work for people, right? Leave blanks. Yes.

Right, leave blanks. Unfinished business. Yes. That should be the name of my show. If only your editors were in charge of the stuff last time.

Yeah, we would have gotten that lot more sleep. Tell you that.

So so he thought this convention was great. He said this a number of times. He thought they accomplished their goal. The convention was extraordinary. Amazing.

So, I mean, first of all, putting the real people in prime time. You know, the Gold Star families, not a dry eye in the room during that. And by the way, can I say something about the Gold Star families? Joe Biden After their family members were shot, gave a press conference where he said, We're going to find the people who did this and we're going to deliver justice in a time and place of our choosing. It's now almost three years later.

Nothing has happened. Nothing is happening. We killed a guy who's putting water bottles in his guy's trunk. No, no, because there's no over-the-horizon capability because we can't find them and we can't kill them, which is just a sign of America another sign of Biden's weakness on the world stage. But that, I think, the highlight of the convention was Kai Trump.

I th and what I loved about What Trump did during this convention that was so effective. He's the only president I've ever seen do this. Attended the entire convention and sat there and listened to all the speeches, which, by the way, without falling asleep, which is something Joe Biden couldn't do. Right? Which was just an implicit comparison between Biden and him, right?

That he he's he could sit through four hours of speeches. I can't sit through four hours of speeches. But was reacting to everything.

So you had the split screen on T V of the speaker. And Trump watching. And Kai Trump's speech, where she's talking about how he gives us candy and soda when our parents aren't looking, and he calls me at school in the middle of the day to talk about golf, and I have to tell him, Grandpa, I got to go back to class, you know, and how he was reacting to her, the love in his eyes, looking at his beautiful granddaughter telling these stories about their relationship. That was one of the most effective reality show. Programs I've ever seen on television.

I love that. And the moment from her speech that really caught me by surprise and was just so authentic was: you try to get in my head when we golf. It doesn't work because I'm a Trump too. I'm a Trump, too. Yep.

That was really important. It just goes to show you the generation's going. You want to isolate this guy. He's this. He's a narcissist.

Oh, it's all about himself. Really, someone should give that memo to his family. If you look at Eric, you look at Don, you look at Ivanka, you look at Tiffany, you look at the next generation, obviously, that we see coming up. They seem to be on board with their grandfather. When we come back, I want to talk about what you think is going to happen this weekend with Joe Biden.

Because the first time we are leaving this convention, we do not know who the opponent is on the other side. This is July. We've never had this before. They have to wait three more weeks to maybe nominate a substitute for the current President of the United States. There's a lot of intrigue here.

Don't you have a better guest? Hey, Allison, do you know if we have a better guess? Never. The answer is never. Mark Thesson stays.

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Call 800-204-0239. That's 800-204-0239. Live. From the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. He has the delegates, and Peter's exactly right that the White House will tell you he is going to be the nominee.

They can't take it from him. But what Axios is reporting, that people very close to the president, both congressional leaders, personal friends, they believe he is going to get there, as they put it over the weekend. He's going to make the decision that he needs to go and that he's not going to be able to hold on. And according to NBC, President Biden feels betrayed personally and hurt by why so many people, Democrats, including the name of the party's top leaders, have left him hung out to dry as he faces the biggest crisis of his political career. Mark Thiessen, we've never seen anything quite like this.

A sitting president, now people are realizing he's at 81 years old, he can't do the job, so they want him out. How does this end?

Well, first of all, the fact that I'm here for a second segment means not only could you not find a better guest, you couldn't find another guest. Or maybe it's because I'm like Joe Biden, I don't know when to leave. Right. We begged you to stay.

So here's the thing. I there's increasing pressure on Joe Biden to leave. You know, w one of the things you find if you if you've had a loved one who has dementia um is that they become increasingly resistant. because their lives they they sense that their their control of their life is slipping away and as they start making more mistakes people keep telling them what to do. And they get really upset about it and they start becoming more more resistant to to pressure.

And I think that may be what you're seeing with Joe Biden here, which everybody's telling him, you gotta step aside, you gotta step aside and he's just saying, No, I'm not giving up the car keys. You know, it's one of the hardest things anybody has to do is give gives have get their parent to give up their g Aged parent to give up the car keys. And he's got the car keys, and no one can take it away from him. He's got to give them up himself. And I don't think that he's going to give it up very easily.

But I think it's going to be, he has to be done by this weekend. Plus, he's got COVID.

So he's had a time to think. Do you think Valerie, his sister, or Jill is to be? I watched him coming down those stairs and getting helped into the limo. I don't think he's doing a lot of thinking about his future right now. I think he's thinking about how to get from one place to another and recover from the disease.

I don't think they're going to do it while he's on his deathbed in COVID. 20 seconds. What does Trump do in the interim while he waits for an opponent? I think he just keeps. I think he should.

Do what he did in the first ten minutes of the speech. Keep appealing to the to the to the uh to the center, to the swing voters. He'll be in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I'll be live Saturday at 9 o'clock to recap his event. Mark Thiessen, there is no better guest.

You want me to stay? You're the best. No, I don't want you to stay. Live from the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for others.

This is the spirit that forged America in her darkest hours. And this is the love that will lead America back to the summit of Human achievement and greatness. This is what we need. Despite such a heinous attack, we unite this evening more determined. Than ever.

I am more determined than ever, and so are you.

So is everybody in this room. And that's just a little of the President's speech last night. They closed the show. It was the longest speech ever, and the beginning of the speech will be remembered probably more than anything else because it's the first and last time he'll recount the shooting that almost took his life six days ago. With me to my immediate left is Jason Miller, if you're watching the stream, senior advisor for the Trump campaign.

He looks as fresh as if the convention is just starting. Jason, in terms of things, difficult things that you do, preparing for a debate, preparing for a rally, how taxing was this for you?

Well, keep in mind, I mean, we're doing this all just now, six days after there was an assassination attempt. And it's a bit surreal. I mean, I when I was talking to my wife on the phone this morning and she's asking how I was doing. I'm like, oh, you know, tired? She's like, well, no, they tried to kill the President six days ago.

How did he do it? Like, I think about it: how do we do it as just as Republicans or as people in the media or people who are on his team in this aftermath? How did he do it? He was shot. They literally shot him.

And five days later, last night on Thursday, he's giving the speech of his life, receiving the Republican nomination for president. I don't know how he does it, but it's for that also that oh, and then also this week we picked a VP, J.D. Vance. Welcome to the team. Had to obviously the mechanics of that.

And so these various moving parts, things come together, but what makes it easy? What makes it easy, what makes it a little more simple, that's probably is that we know what we want to say. We know what the message the President wants to convey. Once you have that, everything else falls into place. And that's the problem where you see, say, Joe Biden, they don't know what they want to say.

Well, first of all, we nobody know who's in the White House today or tomorrow on the campaign. But when you have the vision, when you have the direction, the rest falls into line.

Well, that's true. The other thing is the documents case gets tossed, too, this week by Eileen Cannon saying you have no right to appoint Jack Smith. There's nothing constitutional. He should have gone through the Congress if you want a special prosecutor. I'm sure it's going to be appealed, but it's another giving the Heisman to these cases that many people said to other people will weigh in, talk about the strength of it, and now other people looked in and talked about the validity of it.

And then you have the immunity ruling that came down from the Supreme Court. How do you do you I know you have the lawyer on this, but when you talk to the legal team, What's the process in getting that that verdict revisited? Is there a timeline on that? Great question. Not one that I can speak to.

I should have asked the lawyers when I saw them last night. They would know that one better than I just. I didn't go to law school. I'm not part of the legal team, so I can't necessarily speak to that. But the fact that we've seen now both the immunity ruling, as you pointed out from the Supreme Court, we saw Judge Eileen Cannon's decision earlier this week.

This is the reason, or this goes hand in hand, Brian, with all the polling showing that President Trump is doing better on the issue of who's going to protect democracy than Joe Biden. That's not like the Jason poll or some blog. That's the Washington Post polling that's actually saying that. Right. So we see that Joe Biden, since the debate, started proving to people, wanted to prove to people that he could do the job.

And it's been from Lester Holt to George Stephanopoulos now to the anchor Ed Gordon on BET. It has not gone well. Here's Joe Biden. This is what Univision put out: Cut 20. I performed terribly.

And so people are now saying, well, that was only one thing, but He's eighty one years old. What happened to eighty four years old? What happened to when he's eighty-five years old? I was smart enough to know Um with age comes wisdom. I know the difference between the truth and lies.

I don't know the difference between good and bad. I don't know the difference between what has to be done. Absolutely awful. I mean, there's no way the Democrats are going to run him. You're right.

I'm going to get to that. With Joe Biden, though, there's an aspect of gross incompetence within his operation. I think also, too, with, and I feel bad in a sense, I do feel bad, not feel bad for Joe Biden, and that she should recognize this. It's a terrible spot. Clearly, her husband's in severe and rapid mental decline, but she has to know for the good of Joe and her family in the country, they got to step aside.

He just can't do this anymore. But the thing with what we're seeing there with Biden is that. He's Is so all over the map that you can't have him continue to talk.

So, for example, when people say, What's the biggest Biden's biggest challenge or his problem? Obviously, they say age or cognitive ability, but he can't talk. And so you're not going to prove people, prove to people, that he's somehow normal by having him talk more. The more he talks, the deeper the hole gets. That's what I don't understand what they're doing.

It's like trying to me to convince people that I'm in great shape and then put me in a place with a bunch of cheeseburgers and dive into those. But I mean, every time he talks, it's a new disaster.

So in other words, the assessment of somebody in your position of the Biden campaign is they need more Joe Biden, and it's the craziest conclusion ever. There was no pressure on him even to do the Lester Holtz interview after the assassination. I mean, he he there was no no one would have said why is he getting out of the Lester Holtz interview. It's like, my goodness, my opponent was almost killed. I've got to find out what's going on with the Secret Service.

There's no pressure to do any interviews during the Republican convention. Traditionally, like you'll probably do, you'll go almost dark and kind of work on strategy things. Traditionally, we have it. You know what? And again, Biden's still a bit of a disaster, but he can't fix this, so I can opine a little bit on more on how I would have done it.

If I were Biden's people, I would have put him in a position where he looks presidential. I would have had him do presidential things and try to come up with a couple of accomplishments real quick, real quick to say, this is why I should be here, because obviously I disagree with everything he's doing. I disagree with any policy he put in, but try to make himself look presidential. But instead, he tried to make himself look good on the campaign side, on the communication side, and he physically can't do that anymore. Right.

So right now, the push, Axios is reporting, and so is Politico, NBC, just about everybody has him gone almost out the door. Just a question of when. Mike Allen joined me on Fox and Friends earlier today. Today, cut 31. He has the delegates, and Peter's exactly right, that the White House will tell you he is going to be the nominee.

They can't take it from him. But what Axios is reporting, that people very close to the President, both congressional leaders, personal friends, they believe he's going to get there, as they put it, over the weekend. He's going to make the decision that he needs to go and that he's not going to be able to hold on. Jason, this really involves you. It involves your strategy, it involves your schedule, it involves your messaging to a degree, even though it's policies.

How do you handle it? I mean, in your mind, do you think he's gone? Do you? No. No.

I actually would take a slightly different position because it is tough to force Joe Biden out.

So let's go to what Mike said there. When you look at the regular Democrat delegates to their convention, Some 3,700 of the 3,800 are bound to Biden on the first ballot. They have their superdelegates, but it is really tough to actually go and We go and try to shift things away. Their thing, too, the old adage: you've got to have someone to beat someone. It's not as though people are saying, Yes, we're at the moment bound to Joe Biden, but we really like Kamala Harris, or we really like J.B.

Pritzker, or we really like Westmore Gavin Newsome or so on. People are saying, No, just we want to get rid of Biden. This has been their problem all along. They ran into this box canyon, partly fueled by George Clooney and the New York Times and all these other people, saying Joe has to go. Like, okay, Sherlock, who would you rather have in that place?

And they're like, oh, thought bubble, anybody but Kamala. I mean, Kamala only gets like 25, 30 percent of a Dem primary vote.

So they're in a real pickle because they want to get rid of Joe. They don't have a natural successor or heir, and so they're hamstrung on what their options are.

Well, this is very similar. I think this analogy works. It's like getting to the Super Bowl. No one doubts you guys didn't earn it. You had a very talented field.

Donald Trump wins, going away. Most everyone's knocked out after New Hampshire. Nikki Haley stuck around, as the president said, too long. Then she came back.

So you guys got to the championship game and you have nobody to play. I mean, it's the strangest thing. When we look at what kind of lift you're going to get from the RNC, lift for what? overall approval rating? Perhaps.

But as it relates to Joe Biden, I I don't even know how interested I am because I can't see him surviving this. And though there's a school of thought now that Mike Allen was telling me that she'll be one of the people in the hopper But you won't be the person. mechanically How do you do this? Because it's not as though Kamala Harris has some vaunted political operation with it. It's not as though she's Tip O'Neill or even Tom DeLay or even Nancy Pelosi, where she can control every member of her party.

They're in lockstep. There's nobody who's working it, and they're trying to figure out: well, how do we go and do this? Because the mechanics of it, how do you actually get in there and start pulling them away when you're not even united behind Kamala? And so, what could happen is they could get to their convention, and it's just total chaos. A couple other things here, really, this is really important.

Legally, There are a lot of problems. Number one, you're going to have lawsuits from all over the country of people saying, I voted for Joe Biden. And now you're trying to tell me the Democrat Party just threw that out. Not only are you going to have, say, party rules, you're going to have state election laws. Say this is a problem, maybe a little obstruction of an official proceeding.

Because there are certain states.

So, if I thought I voted for Joe Biden in New Hampshire, let alone organized it, and all of a sudden you tell me, well, he's not going to run anymore because the party doesn't want him. He clearly wants to run. Clearly wants to run. Then this is a disenfranchisement of their vote. This is real.

Other thing, too, with the money. And keep in mind that.

Well, I know what you're going to be saying. You're going to be. I mean, Kelly Ann's brought that up, too. That's going to be your line. Like, well, make these people, don't tell me that democracy is in the balance if we win.

We're watching democracy in the balance after your guy won.

Well, and the money, too, because Joe Biden can't hand over the millions of dollars to Kamala until he's officially the nominee. Because right now, say if he were to drop tomorrow, that money doesn't go to Kamala. That money goes to the DNC.

Now, does it go to the party? Yes, or to a super PAC, so it's not as though it disappears into the air. But it is so hard to get the hard dollars which you have to pay for for things like the plane flights, for events, things of that nature. And so they're stuck because if Biden has to become the nominee, and it'd have to be the VP that's on the ticket with him to be able to hand it off, Brian, these guys are totally screwed. Right, and they only have themselves to blame.

Correct. They could have had a contested primary. Pat Buchanan took on a sitting president. We watched Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy lock horns. Everyone thought Hillary Clinton was going to go at it, but Barack Obama came out of nowhere.

They didn't want to do that again. I thought that was great for the country and the party. People debating, even if things get a little raw and camps get a little high. By the way, I'm old enough to remember Joe Biden saying that he was just a transition candidate. He was going to do this for a few years and then hand off the reins.

But number one, what people discounted was the fact that Joe Biden is so stubborn and so self-centered. He thinks that God put him on this earth to try to stop President Trump. But the other thing, he knows that Kamala Harris is an idiot. Tim Ryan doesn't think so. Here's what he said.

As you know, he got close in Ohio for a Democrat. The former Ohio congressman, he wanted to be the next senator, cut 28. I think she would smoke him, honestly. And I've been saying this for three weeks now. She is the candidate in my mind.

She will absolutely smoke him. She will rally our base. She'll pull in young people. She will energize Democrats. She will prosecute not just a case against Trump, because I don't think we want to talk about him too much, but you've got to be able to call out his lies.

And who better to do that than a prosecutor?

So Tim Ryan, I know it's he thought uh uh by jigau he says The Vice President will destroy Donald Trump.

Well, he's conflating two different things. Is Kamala Harris a better speaker? Of course. And she put together a coherent sentence. Coherent, yes, might not make any sense, but you know, you can understand the words that are coming out of her mouth.

The problem, though, is that she is so far to the left that she owns that California liberal, that radical California liberal tag, whereas Joe's kind of a poser. He goes with the liberal policies, but he's not a true believer nut job. Whereas Kamala Harris actually believes it. She wakes up every day and wants to flood the streets with the criminals and have all the extreme EV mandates, things of that nature.

So we actually see in the polling, and most of the public polling has borne this out as well, we actually do a point or two better against Kamala Harris than we even do with Joe Biden. And guess what? The reason why you don't see Nancy Pelosi, the other people say, Joe, step aside and give it to Kamala, because they see the same numbers that we see.

Well, because I have seen some of the polls where she does better against President Trump than Joe Biden of late. But those opposed that we would see as opposed to what the campaign would be. One point, two points. She's still losing everywhere. Right.

Everywhere. Anyone's polls, whether it be nationally, whether it be battleground states. Here's the other thing, Democrats that. Do you want to hold that thought, Jason? Because when we come back, we have a few more minutes on the other side.

Jason Miller, Director of Communications with Donald Trump, who has left the building. He has flown to New Jersey. I'm thankful he left Jason behind. Don't move. More of Brian Kilme live from the Republican National Convention next.

From Milwaukee, Wisconsin, home of the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. Senior advisor for the Trump campaign, Jason Miller's been with him. Jason, how long have you been with Donald Trump now? My third tour of duty. My third duty from the 16 campaign, went and did some other things, came back for the 20 campaign, went and launched the social media platform, and then back for round three.

But I always tell people, you don't quit after Empire Strikes Back. You come back for Return of the Jedi.

So this is got to complete the trilogy.

So you are, and now the convention's done. And I understand Saturday you'll be in Ann Arbor? Grand Rapids. Grand Rapids. Yeah, so tomorrow we'll have President Trump, J.D.

Vance, their first and actually I'm watching the tease right now that Jesse will be sitting down with them on Saturday and they'll have that for on Monday for Monday primetime. They'll be their first joint rally. Of course, they've appeared at rallies before, but is the formal ticket. That's coming up. And then on Monday, I will be with J.D.

Vance. We're actually going to Virginia. We'll be on offense there. And then we have some other states where we'll be on offense. And so I'd say you'll see a somewhat regularly joint schedule with the President and J.D.

But then J.D. is going to be raising money and he's going to be campaigning in particular in a lot of these upper Midwest states.

So this is totally different than anyone has had to deal with. As I mentioned, it's like going to the Super Bowl and not getting your opponent. You don't know who the opponent is. You're not even sure if it's any could be any of six people. You know, you could make Kefin Shapiro here.

Mark Kelly's name comes up. People talk about Governor Bashir over in Kentucky. I know you're not going to tell me who you worry about most or don't, but How do you fill that gap while they wait and hash things out in the most soap-opper fashion possible on the left? What do you guys do in the internet? Great question.

We've been doing it now, maybe a little bit more covertly, but we'll just probably do it a little more overtly now. That this, ever since the debate when President Trump knocked out Joe Biden, that fantastic debate performance in Atlanta. And we saw that there was a chance this was going. We've made this a referendum on the Democrat Party and the Washington insiders the whole time. Because Kamala Harris, every one of those cabinet members, every governor who spent time with them, every member of the mainstream media who sat in that White House press briefing room and said that Joe Biden could literally jump over small buildings in a single bound, stop speeding trains, and then now all of a sudden they say the guy's virtually brain dead.

No, no, they were all in on the conspiracy. They all turned a blind eye while they allowed 20 million illegals into the country, completely tanked our economy, allowed world chaos with Afghanistan, Ukraine, the terrorist attacks against Israel, allowed that to happen. But now. Because Joe Biden got his butt kicked in a debate, you're going to say that he needs to go. And this is the thing about last night, Brian, with President Trump's speech and the way this whole convention was just so good, the way they did it with the Republican unity, showing the new party, just the production value, and the way it looked.

In the same way that Democrats freaked out after the debate, they're freaking out now after President Trump's speech because they're looking and saying, uh-oh, we can't beat this guy, and it doesn't matter who we have.

So we're running as an indictment against all of them. And as we see from the polling, we were talking off-air a minute ago, the polling shows that this race is so tight. You swap out someone else for Joe Biden, the race is still where it is with President Trump beating everyone.

So you believe that it is still tight. If Biden didn't have, you guys didn't have the debate and Biden was the nominee, you still think it would be tight, right? In a sense, and President Trump was again my case the other day, like Hackor and I had by 20 points in Pennsylvania. Because it's a blue saint. I go, sir, I go, if we had this issue, do you think Alabama would ever go Democrat?

I go, it's a divided country, but you're winning. You're going to win this election. Wow. Jason Bill. No matter who would.

This and we don't really know. Jason, thanks so much for everything. Brian Kilmee Cho from Milwaukee. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian, kill me that.

Hi, everyone. Brian Kilmead here coming to you from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for the last time. We're going to be leaving after the show. Then we're back to 48th and 6 in Midtown Manhattan. This hour will be joined by Shannon Bream getting set to do Fox News Sunday as the conclusion of the RNC is now sinking in.

And Congresswoman Cat Kamack, who's out here, she should be with us in the studio. And then Eli Lake is standing by, contributing editor, Commentary Magazine, columnist for the New York Sun, host of re-education podcast.

So we're going to be discussing three main things. I mean, one is going to be the RNC. Number two, the investigation into the assassination as more details come up. And why are people having to be whistleblowers to tell the truth? And we're only a few days in.

We'll talk about that, and then we'll talk about Joe Biden's future. It looks bleak. The question is: as he suffers with COVID, are they going to kick him out? And what can they do? Since he has all the delegates, can he actually hold out?

With me right now is Eli Lake. Eli, welcome back. Crazy times. To say the least.

Okay, he just dropped off. And by the way, let me just mention to you. We got a Fox News app. If you are not in our family of affiliates, or do what I did. You pick up from New York, you go somewhere else, and you think, How do you get the show?

If you just get the app, you click on the headsets, you can listen to it. Or you can go to the bottom of the app and click on watch. You just go over until you see Fox News Radio, and then you can see the stream. Even when we go on the road, you can still see the show, you see the guests, and have an idea. Eli Lake has this new column out that said Trump did everything wrong, so why did it work?

And he just talks about, you know, in the past, they have traditional ways to get nominated and a nominee from Mitt Romney to John McCain to George W. Bush. And how's that gone?

Well, in comes in 2016, Donald Trump has now run for the last three times. And next thing you know, we have Hulk Hogan and Dana White introducing the 45th president, who wants to become the 47th president, who has more minority votes than Mitt Romney and John McCain. How do you do that? Because he did everything his way. Eli Lake has broken it all down for us.

Eli, welcome back. Thanks so much for having me. Are you in Milwaukee, Brian? The assay is still here. Still in Milwaukee.

Your thoughts about how this has changed.

Well, I would say Well, first of all, I mean, I was not in I was not in Milwaukee. I was in New York kind of helping as a deputy editor and also reporting, writing for the Free Press, our convention team that was there. But I will say, having watched it, covered it, talking to a lot of Republicans, The overall vibe that I got, not being in Milwaukee, but hearing it from everybody else, was that this was a party. That not only believed it was going to win, it was a party that. Was unified, it was in a positive mood, it was focused on the future.

You did not have that Trump. that was obsessed with what he believed was a stolen election in twenty twenty. You had a party that was looking about trying to really, as the slogan says, Make America Great Again, or as I saw in some of the banners, Make America great. Great once again.

So it's now Magoa.

So I thought, so that's the first thing: is that you had. On the one hand, and then the contrast, of course, because it's a binary choice in the American system. Is the Democrats which is that party we are watching in real time, Brian. A once in like a one, two or three generation meltdown civil war. It is, I've never seen anything quite like it.

It's the end of the Clinton Obama era for the Democrats. you have a situation where the President is openly defying the power brokers of his own party. And there is some kind of uprising, an insurrection, and you have it there disintegrating before our eyes. And if you had to predict Uh A year or two ago, what party would melt down in the 2024, you know, the summer of 2024 during the conventions? You would think it would be the Republicans because you'd have.

you know, their nominee, Trump. indicted or convicted of all these legal matters that he's going through. You if you would have asked that question in the beginning of twenty twenty three, you'd say, well, DeSantis looks like the strong guy to lead the party out of the Trump era But instead, you have a unified Republican Party. And really, it's a joke sometimes we talk about Democrats in disarray. No, this is Democrats' Civil War at this point.

And I don't know, even if they replace Biden with Kamala, or even if they replace Biden with Oprah, who knows? It is going to be very difficult to get the to you c to to just sort of evolve to campaign mode because there's so much bitterness and animosity. And you like yeah, I want to get to that, but I love I want to go back, if I can, to your column, because I always think about this. Because I remember the autopsy came out after Mitt Romney lost and John McCain struggled. They go, you guys got to redo your party.

They say you have your aversion to non-white voters. You better learn to talk less harshly about immigration. There's got to be a way to get African American voters. And in comes Donald Trump, who made some statements like, you know what, we've got to stop. Mexico is not sending us their best.

A lot of them are rapists. A lot of them are criminals. All these things that were radioactive to those people who study what should happen. And when it comes to blacks, what do you have to lose is Donald Trump's message. And you think, oh, my goodness, that's not the message you need.

And in the end, he has more black votes. He's got roughly 26% of the vote, which was Mitt Romney got eight. And then you have the Hispanic votes. I think the president is winning the Hispanic vote right now or close to Joe Biden.

So how did it happen? Is this just about Trump, or did he show something for everyone else to copy? I think you showed that there that you cannot assume That Hispanics or Latinos who came into this country legally following the rules. Would have some sort of fidelity or solidarity with people who came into this country illegally. In fact, What I think we are learning is that the people who are the newest Americans who went through our system and became immigrants in America.

are most angry and most offended By people who skip the line, who come in and break the rules.

So that's the first thing.

So the idea that you appeal to To legal immigrants, new Americans. By Saying that your policy is to ignore people who violated the process that they had to go through is actually maybe a way of alienating those new Americans.

So that's number one. Number two. I think that there's something else going on, which is That it seems like such a kind of like, it's almost like there's a bigotry in the expectation that. Blacks will support a party that will, you know, that likes the welfare. Give them things.

Yeah. And Latinos like anyone who says nice things about The open borders. And that's not true. It's a diverse community like anyone else, treat us like individuals. there are going to be a diversity of opinions within these communities.

And I think that the fact that Trump is going after those votes and not just trying to be a kind of facsimile of what the Democrats are saying or like we're like the Democrats, but a little less, In that respect, I think by you know, to use an old phrase from the 19 I think it's the 1980s or 1970s, a choice, not an echo. I think that's Goldwater, actually, in the 60s.

So, the idea that he presented a choice and not an echo, it resonated among these minority communities that. The people who wrote the autopsy said that the Republicans had to reach out to.

So he didn't come in saying I'm going to have comprehensive immigration reform, we're going to give amnesty to the people who are here, which would have been the Romney move or the McCain move. Or the Jeb Bush move. Instead, he sort of says, No, I'm going to build a wall and I'm going to keep the bad guys out and we're going to do something about all the illegal immigration and that. Think really resonated. I mean, also with unions and lots of working-class people who really do see it as competition for their jobs.

So, in that respect, I think that Trump kind of figured something out that the smartest guys in the room couldn't see. And also, when you talk about electric cars and when you talk about trade and when you talk about when he attacked free trade, of imbalanced trade, when you talk about electric cars, you hurt unions. And also, he doesn't pander. He's actually showing up in Philadelphia, showed up in New York, and he showed up in Detroit. And he made such an impression, made such an impression, that Pastor Lorenzo Sewell was on last night, African American from Detroit.

Listen to what he said, cut 14. President Donald Trump, he came during his birthday weekend. Let me ask you a question. Grand old party, what would you do for your birthday if you were worth? $6.7 billion, what would you do for your birthday?

Would you come to Detroit? Would you come into the hood hood? He came to the hood. Because he cares about average everyday Americans. I mean, it was a pretty intimidating message.

He went after an African-American vote. Yeah. How great is that? I mean, contrast that with Joe Biden being led off the stage by Barack Obama at a star studded gala at Radio City Music Hall with Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert and all of the Hollywood super elite. Contrast those two things.

And that's all you in some ways need to know. And I would add one more thing. In 2020, it was assumed that the radical position of prison abolition and police abolition. Was a way to connect with the black community. And what you saw in this convention was the mother of an Afghan combat vet who is African American.

Directly call out Alvin Bragg, who implemented those kinds of policies, and said, You are letting the murderers of my son. Off the hook, who who survived The Taliban attacks. In Afghanistan, only to come back to New York City to be attacked by gang members, two of whom you. You had effectively commuted and dropped the sentences against them. That is.

A remarkable message. Does it mean that he's going to connect with a majority of African Americans? Absolutely not. Does it mean he's going to maybe get more than 25%, 20%? there that's really in play.

And if that is the case, Then I think that's the end of what was called this a coalition of the ascendant under Obama. That's the end of the Democratic coalition. If Republicans are competing for a quarter of the African American vote, it's a whole new ballgame. The map is totally different. All right, Eli, great column.

Pick it up. Which one of the outlets did you write this for? It's called Trump Did Everything Wrong, So Why Did It Work? Eli, let me.

Okay, so this is my full-time gig. I'm now at the Free Press. That's Barry Weiss's growing, wonderful new outlet. Everyone should subscribe. It's a great publication.

We've got amazing writers there. Douglas Mary, you can read me, you can read Peter Savodnik, you can read Barry Weiss, who's terrific. We've just got Neil Ferguson, who is one of the best historians in the world right now. Uh it's a it's a hot pub, as they say. Sign up for Eli Lake.

Eli, thanks so much. I appreciate what you do for the show all the time. Fantastic. When we come back, Congresswoman Kat Kamick, don't move. Brian Killmeat Show in Milwaukee.

More of Brian Kill Me live from the Republican National Convention next. Live. From the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. Starting Monday, we're having hearings. The Oversight Committee, Chairman Comer, is going to be having a hearing with the Secret Service.

Whether she shows up or not, we're having that hearing to demand answers. There's other committees like Homeland Security, Chairman Green's digging into these same things. She is now one of the new faces, unfortunately, not the only one, of the failures of the Biden administration. There are too many, the incompetence. She's so concerned about DEI and woke causes that she has failed in her primary mission, and that is to protect the president and former presidents of the United States.

She needs to go. And nobody has to explain to Steve Scalitz the dangers of being in the public eye, the dangers of being on the softball field and almost dying, and the dangers that Donald Trump felt because obviously when his life was almost lost six days ago, the bullet whizzing by his head, you find out about this epic fail of the woman in charge. And she is evidently, Cheeto was able to go and brief the President yesterday, the former President yesterday, about what happened. He has obviously got a lot of questions. With me right now is Congresswoman Cat Kamek, and we got to find out what happened.

We know that Jim Jordan is all over this, too. Congresswoman, welcome back. Great convention. First, on your thought about the assassination investigation. Yeah, I don't think I'm hearing her.

But we'll try to put that we'll try to bring it right back up. uh when we have a chance to to catch up with her or when her When her shot goes back up, that'll probably be better. All right, so we'll talk about that. And when it comes to the. When it comes to the investigation and what's going to be happening, Donald Trump's in an interesting situation because if he comes out too aggressive, he doesn't want to alienate the men and women that guard him every day and that become almost a part of the family in many situations.

But he can't be happy with what's happening on top. Senator Josh Hawley joined Neil Cavuto yesterday, and he was not holding back. Cut 39. The Secret Service is out there and the FBI now doing these secret calls, these behind-the-scenes briefings where, by the way, they don't really answer questions. They strictly limited the number of questions.

The Secret Service director herself did not actually brief. She was present on the call, but didn't do hardly any briefing. When she did try to answer a question or two, it did not go well. She was not well prepared. This needs to be done in public.

Bottom line, we need public hearings. We need a full and thorough investigation. I think so, too. I want to see it behind closed doors and I want to see it in public. And guess what?

The reporters on the ground, especially with Fox, are not waiting for the investigation from the House. Congresswoman Cat Kammack joins us now. Congresswoman, your thoughts about what Senator Josh Hawley just said?

Well, I couldn't agree more with him. I mean, we get these briefings this week while we've been in Milwaukee. We received A briefing, and the thing that is incredibly frustrating about. the process is that all of a sudden it becomes a cloak and dagger exercise where, oh no, we have to talk about that in the skiff. Oh no, we've got to talk about this on that committee and then another element in another committee.

I think we are so far past that. We need to consolidate this under one umbrella, one committee, and I don't care if it's the weaponization committee or if it is judiciary or if there is a special task force that is formed. But that task force has to have subpoena power, and it needs to be done where the American people can see every single step of the way. Because if you have too many hands in the pot, in the kitchen, too many cooks in the kitchen, this is going to end in a blame game with pointing fingers and no accountability. We've seen this time and time again, and I don't know about you, but I am sick and tired of it.

Oh yeah, I mean when you find out the kid put the gun ahead of time ahead of the event, when you find out he walked in with a range finder, when you found out that they knew this kid was suspicious, that other people were taping him, and then even before the shots rang out, you see people who were at the event pointing up, saying telling an officer, look up. I mean, I never thought in America, in Pennsylvania, we'd have these issues. I know it's not easy, but there seems to be such that a smashing of protocols. I mean, it was an absolute failure from even before the time the rally started. You know, we knew that there was a threat from the Iranians that the president, you know, President Trump had not been briefed on, his team had not been made aware of.

That would have been good to know. We know now that there had been law enforcement contacted about the shooter, that he had been reported missing. You mentioned the rangefinder. By the way, the perimeter, why is the perimeter now somehow okay to have someone 130 yards? In a direct line of sight to Donald Trump, and that somehow is, you know, oh, that's okay, we don't need to check that building.

I mean, from start to finish, this has been a failure. And I gotta tell you, Brian, I was in the Capitol when Trump was shot. My husband and I, we were in the Capitol, and I was talking to a couple of Capitol police officers. And you could see on their face. just blood draining from from their face saying, Oh my gosh, How could this happen?

This is such a incredible Failure that not only should the Secret Service Director have resigned already, but the lack Um Of force coming from the White House to say, we're going to step up and clean house. That would be great, Congresswoman Kat Kamack, 100%. Thanks so much. Live from the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. As Americans, we are bound together by a single fate.

and a shared destiny. We rise together. Or we fall apart. I am running to be President for all of America, not half of America. Because there is no victory in winning.

for half of America.

So tonight With faith and devotion, I proudly accept your nomination for president. of the United States. Thank you. And that is the president last night closing out a very successful Republican National Convention. The speech was long.

It was supposed to be about 53 minutes. Ended up being an hour and a half all-time record. Shannon Bream, we live a life right now where everything's unprecedented and a new record.

So why not end this convention with a new record and unprecedented record?

Well, I'm sure the president likes the former president, likes setting records. I will tell you that our Fox News Sunday rundown, if you go there now, what you'll see is the word fluid. Right. Because, you know, I'm sure your Saturday night is the same way. Who knows what we'll have by then?

I know, and because you're leaving here for Milwaukee, not doing the show from Milwaukee, right? Right, we did it last Sunday. We'll be back in D.C., that's the plan. Or this week?

So your thoughts about the speech yesterday, of course in the beginning, when it starts, everyone's talking about him describe how it was riveting. The President describing what it was like to be shot at and hit, cut two. There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for others. This is the spirit that forged America in her darkest hours. And this is the love that will lead America back to the summit of human achievement and greatness.

This is what we need. Despite such a heinous attack, we unite this evening more determined. Than ever. I am more determined than ever, and so are you.

So is everybody on this room? Yeah, I mean, it seemed a little like a rally. Mark Thiessen had a theory. He wanted to finish the rally, he couldn't finish Saturday. That makes sense.

And he just, in the beginning, he was on his copy and then he just left the copy. Oh, yeah. We were all kind of coming through, like, which page are we on? Where have we gone? I do think that's what it turned into because, listen, there was a lot of speculation.

Will he be able to reach independence? And other people were taking another look at him. This race is so volatile. But it ended up being very much appealing to those 2,249 delegates who were there on the floor.

So in the Pfizer Forum, it was great. Although we did see some people kind of trickling out as we were hitting the 90-minute mark. But did it appeal to people who may have been watching at home who are a little bit curious and trying to make up their minds? Right. The beginning would.

I know. I think that that was probably something he would want to maybe massage that message. Because he did not mention, he mentioned Joe Biden's name maybe once. I think Crazy Nancy happens. But we are in a situation where we've never had this before.

Shannon, we're leaving the Republican convention in July, and we have no idea who the Republican nominee will be facing. Democrat. Oh, oh, yeah. The Republican nominee will be facing. Where is this heading on the Democratic side?

I think this weekend is critical. You know, NBC now reporting that the Biden family is talking with him about his possible opera off-ramps. We've talked to a lot of folks who say the money is literally dried up. We're talking with one delegate who does a ton of fundraising, and a couple weeks ago was adamant, we're not leaving this race, he's in.

Now she's saying to us, the reality is we just can't do this. I mean, the money has gone away. The donors know that they can kind of turn the screws on this whole thing. They're worried about down ballot. And, you know, he's ill now.

And he had said if there's a medical issue, that may make me rethink this. We think he's going to recover, you know, but it gives him downtime with the First Lady at the time when, yes, we have dozens of people publicly saying for him to go, but it's the big names behind the scenes when you hear Obama, Pelosi, Jeffrey Schumer, you know, pushing. You know, there only may be a little bit of time left on his clock. Right, uh, there is, and I thought we were going to get this week. In fact, one of the stories on Monday and Tuesday, most of them were: looks like Joe Biden's got a reprieve after the assassination attempt and now the publicity that comes with the RNC, it looks like he's going to be okay.

Well, the problem is the Stephanopoulos, the Lester Holt, the I think it's BET interviews. BET interviews. Ed Gordon. He's not done well. He's a little angry.

At Lester Holt, it was pretty much a meltdown. Maybe you'll ask me some real questions next time. And then you see the way he moves, and then you see that donors are sitting on the side.

However, Hope is not all lost. Cedric Richmond says the Biden-Harris campaign alive and well. He's co-chair, Cut 23. The president's not going anywhere. The president can win.

And so we should just go campaign on the issues because we're right on the issues. And we have a candidate. With values and character. And if you look on the other side, you have a guy who only cares about himself, lies all the times, twice impeached, convicted of 34 felonies, and that's what we should be talking about. It's hard for them to talk about issues though.

Because the only thing as long as he's on the ticket that people want to talk about is age and acuity and his ability to hang on. No, I hear you. An anonymous Biden source told Reuters his soul searching is actually happening. I know that for a fact. He's thinking about this very seriously.

Politico says he's in crisis. The President is isolating at his Delaware home as Democrat support appears to crumble around him. Also, in Politico House Democrats, party operatives and former administration officials who want Biden to step aside express growing optimism that the intense pressure would finally crack the shell of defensiveness.

So I think it's happening. I think it's got to happen quick. Every day that goes by leading up to the convention is very damaging to the President, to the Democratic Party. But then the big question is what next? Have you heard what the sentiment is?

If you listen to James Carville, you should not go to Kamala Harris. You should make her earn it.

Well, how do you earn it? How do you earn it? 4,000 delegates are already going to the foreign president. Yeah. I mean, the current president.

Right, exactly. And so is there a mini primary? This whole thing that was floated to James Clyburn, and the congressman was sort of like, well, I support Kamala, but this could be a good way to find her running mate, make her prove it, make her make the case. Their time is so short because remember, they have to start this virtual roll call thing before they ever get to the convention.

So mini, mini, mini primary, like a one-week primary, I don't know how that works. And Democrats have got to deal with the optics of stepping over a woman who's made history and would make history as the first female woman, not first female woman. We've had a few of those. First female president and woman of color who would be a president.

So there's really, there are sticky things for Democrats, but they clearly, the majority of them, at least in the ruling class, think that they're willing to take that gamble on finding a number two.

So Kamala Harris's camp had this quote. Former Biden in aide said this to politico two or three days ago. People were quiet about Kamala. And as of yesterday, especially, people were like, Well, we need to be ready. They're young in their infancy, but they have grown stronger by the hour.

So she has to do this. She's got to be delicate, but she simply has to be adding to her team. Right. Because at the very least, if Joe Biden steps aside, she is going to have to fight. This is no George H.W.

Bush clearly already queuing up after Ronald Reagan does his two terms. Yeah, she's got to have some kind of infrastructure in place and people advocating for her while at this moment still fully supporting the president she serves under.

So it is a delicate, tricky balance. She does poll right now better against President Trump than President Biden does. She still lags, but that's going to be her argument. But you have all these untested people. It's hard to test hypotheticals like Newsom or Shapiro or Pritzker or any of these other people until they're actually in the race.

And they're going to get a honeymoon period. I mean, when you're not actively in the race and people aren't actively campaigning and running ads against you, You're going to get a little bit of an excitement, someone new. I think Democrats will kind of launch this person with some fervor. But how does that settle by September when people start voting? And will there be multiple debates between President Trump and whoever the person is to establish that, okay, this is the person, and now they've actually had some debates and conversations, or is it just one?

We don't know. Yeah. What about you on Sunday? Who do you know you're having? We know that we're having House Oversight Chair James Comer.

They've got this first hearing on Monday. They've subpoenaed the Secret Service director. They think she's going to come. We're going to debate that. And I don't know if you saw the bipartisan statement with him and Representative Raskin this morning saying we disagree on a lot of stuff, but we agree that we've got to get to the bottom of this thing.

So he'll be with us. And the delegate that we've talked about may join us, too, to talk about how the discussions are going about potentially flipping their votes. Jake Auchinklos, a Democratic congressman, with us too.

So. The investigation into the assassination attempt. We know this and could help make him bipartisan. On this guy's list, on this guy's phone, was something he's going after Joe Biden, and also he also is targeting Joe Biden perhaps on his gamer, on his game console, as well as Merrick Garland.

So that should give you cover. To do a legitimate investigation because what is Joe Biden's Secret Service protection like? But this is fascinating. Shannon, in many ways, Congress, while they're waiting to put together some type of committee and get their briefing, The reporters on the ground are getting the story. They're getting the story about the guy that climbed up, had the five-foot ladder, went to go shopping for ammo in the morning, took his dad's car.

We hear about a phone call that his parents made, both therapists to authorities to say this guy's on the loose. We see video of him standing by the building. We find out that they were suspicious of him. We find out they were lost by him. And when they said that stupid statement of, well, it was tough.

You can't go on the roof because it's a slope. It was brought up. The White House's roof is sloped. And we have people in 110-degree weather in all black right now standing on top of a White House. Yeah, and the fact that the locals came out and made their own statement, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't blame this on us.

This is exactly what happened.

So when you have all of these sources, other than the feds, telling us what happened, and people's cell phone video increasingly every day, we get new stuff coming in, it paints a big picture that looks like disarray at this point. And you've talked to, and I've talked to, we've all talked to these lawmakers who sat through these hearings this week and basically are briefings. And said, they're pretty much insulting. They're telling us stupid stuff that we don't, that's not relevant. They filibuster, and then when it comes time for questions, there's very little amount of time left there.

And that ended up with what you saw with the four senators who confronted the Secret Service director here at the RNC. They're frustrated. Here's where Senator John Barroso, who was doing his best TMZ impersonation. He's a low-kill guy. He's a doctor.

He is a very low-key dude. And what about Senator Kramer from North Dakota? Also, not a flamethrower at all. Yeah, I mean, this isn't, no, this isn't Hillary Vaughan chasing down one of the members of the squad. Right.

Yeah. I mean, which is that's her job. Yeah. This woman at John Barroso is sitting Senator's job to chase down. Here he is, Cut 41, describing why he was so emphatic.

The shooter has been identified. An hour before the shooting occurred, as a suspicious person. They lost sight of him. He had a rangefinder, he had a backpack, the kind of things that would be suspicious to anyone. One man died that we know of, maybe others are severely injured, and the former President of the United States was almost assassinated.

There was no sign of accountability at all by the agency. President Trump was saying no one ever gets fired with this guy. And does Joe Biden even know who the director of the Social Security Ms. Jeffrey?

Well, exactly. I mean, compared to, have you been in touch with the director? Yes, I've talked to him.

So either you're lying because it's clearly a female, or your memory is that messed up that you can't remember within the last 24 hours that you've talked to a female versus a male. I mean, all of that is concerning. Ask me if I watched the debate back. Uh did you? Do you recall?

Uh I don't know, I think so. Also, have you talked to President Biden? Hmm, I don't know. I don't really know. Right, that doesn't inspire confidence if you're out there on a media tour to try to convince the party and people that you are the one to stay.

It's just such an amazing turn of events in a very short period of time when we were told it was cheap fakes at the Las Vegas or Los Angeles fundraiser, what, a month ago?

So, I want to bring you back just on that topic about. Did you talk to the Obamas? That's what was brought up by Lester Holt a couple of days ago, Cut 22. President Obama put out a statement after the debate, but Should he and Michelle Obama be doing more to express their confidence in you? No, they're helping me.

They've helped me from the beginning. This is my job to get this done. Have you talked to him recently about this? I haven't talked to him in a couple of weeks. Have you have you talked to him since?

this issue came to light since the debate. I don't think I may have, I don't think so. What I also think is interesting is, remember when he decided to run for president and he was like, oh, I don't want him to endorse me. Because it needs to be a free primary. It was not like the Obamas who have been out there full-throatedly endorsing President Biden this whole time.

A lot of people say, why doesn't Shannon say nice things about you? I said, I don't need that. I don't need it. I mean, you get so much hero worship and adoration from so many other people. I would just be voice would get lost in the mix.

How often do I say you're the hardest working man?

Well, that's not good. I mean, it doesn't mean you like the product. I think the product is excellent. Is there like a Yelp form that I can fill out for the Brian Kilmead show? I think you have the internet on your phone.

I do. Listen, my awesome assistant, Sammy, says to me today, she goes, that Brian Kilmead works a lot. And I said, yes, Sammy, you're just now figuring that out. I would say I don't think I really worked that much. Here, I was consolidated, did a few hits at night.

But I think you guys are the ones that work. And there are hours that you do every day. Oh. In addition to everything else that you can do. Or clothing line.

I feel like there's, you know, you should just be branding these smells. Yeah, you're going to say that nobody can smell this good without some type of enhancement? BK. You're going to be the BK. Simply.

I would have to say simply BK. Because I'm not complex. I don't know. I think you are. There are many onion layers there.

All right. So listen, we have a few more minutes with Shannon Bream unless she makes up an excuse to get out of it. Are you going to make anything? I'm hungry, but I'm going to stay because I think there are snacks in the next room. You know what we have?

No, no. We have the chewy breakfast bars, which means marshmallow. Do you like this? Oh, I did see that. You're having rice krispie treats for breakfast.

I did see that. And I saw a bag of popcorn. Oh, did you hear my stomach?

Sorry. No, we don't mic your stomach on radio. We should do that next time if we had a bigger budget. Back at home with Janet Breem, who can't go anywhere. She's trapped.

More of the Brian Kilmead Show, live from the Republican National Convention.

Next. Live From the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. What surprises them, what makes them first sad and then a little mad, is they were hoping that this would happen weeks ago. And the way that we reported it was they said they wanted to give him the chance to walk off the stage as opposed to being pushed or dragged off the stage. As one person put it to me, we didn't want to have to get to the edge of humiliating him to get him to make this decision.

So that's what's going to happen. They're trying to get him in a situation where he makes his own decision and says it's best for the party to be victorious for me to step aside and maybe give somebody else a chance, or I'm not feeling too well, or I'm going to go back to my original thought about being a transitional candidate. Shannon Bream, that was the speculation for Mike Allen, co-owner of Act Justice who's doing a lot of the original reporting on this. Yeah. So how much longer are they going to be polite about it?

Well, I think that we're getting to the end of that. He did give a lot of options. He said, The Lord Almighty coming down. He did say polls showing him there's no way he could win, and there are more and more of those. Those CBS polls really bad yesterday.

He did say if a train takes him out. And after all of his time on Amtrak, I'm sure that's not how he wants to go. But now, you know, he said an illness. And so, like I said, when these big names are involved with this and have tried gently to go, I think there's been a lot of sticks and carrots, and he's about to get some sticks.

So, listen, not everybody's giving up on him. As you know, Bernie Sanders has not. You know, Al Sharpton has not. Mike Donnellan, who is his closest colleague, Confidant in a pollster. He says, he told Trump, excuse me, he told Joe Biden that Trump and he are very close.

The polls are close, insist there is still a path to victory. Elon Omar called out her own party, says even Biden does step down, the party has been damned. Even if he does step down, the party has been damaged. I can't tell you how shameful it feels to hear all these leaks about what Democratic leaders are saying and not to have a single one of them stick up for Joe Biden. Can you believe it, Elon Omar sounds like she is the voice of reason and loyalty?

Well, and you have to wonder because there's been, gosh, there's been so much trouble for him with his progressive wing on Gaza and all kinds of other things that, you know, he is uniting his party and wanting to get rid of him. Yes, absolutely. That's kind of what's happening. What do you like most about One Nation on Saturday, Adam, I guess? That you hosted.

Right, that's it.

Well, that and the cologne commercials. And what about Pierce Morgan? Yes, so much fun. Right, it's going to be great. I think we're going to have Jim Jordan.

Okay, yeah. That'll be great.

Well, and they're going to head up one of the investigations, too. I was going to find out for myself, but now you can get a gift.

Well, he can give you details, beats, as they call them.

Okay. Can I do my own questions? Are you going to give me them too? No, I am here. I'm at your service.

But you are doing Fox News Sunday. We're all going to watch. We're going to get our TV guys out and find exactly when they are. Am I allowed to ask questions on my show? Yes.

Okay. You're authorized. Authorized. And you're great at it.

Okay, bye. Brian Kilmicho from Milwaukee. Back in a moment. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian.

I'm one of the greatest moments of the Brian Filmy Show. And I'll tell you what, it's been a wild week here at the Republican National Convention. If you're following the news, I don't know anyone who doesn't. There was a time when I was doing this where a lot of people would say, Brian, what do you do every day?

Now the point is. People seem almost as informed as I do and we have to get up and we have to study four hours before six o'clock. On a daily basis because people are so into it. I also love the headline: you could circle this, unprecedented, never been done before, new record. That's almost with every day that we get up.

This hour I'm going to talk to Hulk Hogan. Why wouldn't I? Because at the Republican National Convention, Hulk Hogan, at the last minute, After seeing President Bush Former President Donald Trump shot. He said, Why am I hiding that I'm a Trumper? I'm a coward.

I have to come up and I got to support my friend of 30 years. And they said, If you're going to support me and don't mind ripping off your shirt, why don't you come to the Republican National Convention and introduce me right before Dana White? And he said, Great. And by the way, you'll hear from him. He was great.

With me right now, to my immediate left is John Reed. I'm on with him every Monday. He's the host of Richmond's Morning News with John Reed, and that's AM 1140 WRVA. He was kind enough to carry our station over since the last few months. John, you have a big decision coming up.

Before we get to that, your thought about these last five days. I think it's been a great convention. I'm curious about last night because the tone of the convention leading up to last night seemed to be flip the script on Donald Trump. He's a little more approachable. I do think that the start of his speech last night, if you were watching the start, he seemed very stoic and thoughtful and spiritual.

And then I was down on the floor and I was looking, and the teleprompter guy was like scrolling up and down trying to find where to pick the president up. He went off script, and it seemed more like the old rallies. I don't know, given the timing, whether people were still listening, but I thought the beginning was really effective. If there were the women who had supposedly turned away from him, they might have found that beginning very appealing. I don't know how they felt about the end.

And he says he's not going to talk about it again. Do you believe that? I know he says it is really tough for him to talk about it. Let's listen to that cut five. I will tell you exactly what happened, and you'll never hear it from me a second time because it's actually.

Too painful to tell. In order to see the chart, I started to, like this, turn to my right and was. Ready to begin a little bit further turn, which I'm very lucky I didn't do, when I heard a loud whizzing sound. and felt something hit me. Really, really hard on my right ear.

I said to myself, wow, what was that? It can only be a bullet, and moved my right hand to my ear, brought it down. My hand was covered with blood, just absolutely blood all over the place. And he's inaccurate, that's an accurate job describing what we saw. And to think that you know where your brain is and you know where your ear is, and how close the gunman was for a shooter.

This guy got cut from his JV rifle team, so he's no marksman, but he knows how to use a rifle. Your thought about that. Yeah, I thought that was really remarkable. It really was interesting to be on the floor. And you know, normally when people are speaking, there's other conversations going on.

People are moving around. A main speaker, like the former president, there'll be a little bit of silence for him. But it truly was total silence in that room. People were hanging on every word he had to say. I've got to believe that he'll refer to this in the future because it's been so moving to a lot of people across the country who probably didn't like Donald Trump, but now they've got to contemplate what this means, both for him.

And if you're a spiritual person, how can you deny that this was a remarkable Providential interference in the campaign. Considering this guy was able to set up, and the Secret Service lost him. They knew he was a person of interest, and they lost him. We're going to find out a lot of disturbing things. Over the weekend on One Nation at 9 o'clock, I'm going to speak to Jim Jordan about what he found out because he's got whistleblowers coming to his office already.

So I think there's another theme. And I think J.D. Vance embodies it. Remember the horrible things he said about Donald Trump? You know, he's a Hitler, he's this, and that.

And people were saying, well, how could you possibly pick a guy who felt that way? Tucker Carlson also said some bad things about him, they're really tight. If you go back and see what Ted Cruz said about him, what Marco Rubio said about him, what Nikki Haley said about him, and they've come around. Nikki Haley would have looked a little different because they knew each other and they battled it out. But you evolve.

He's like, if you have one theory on me, And you change it. I'm still I'll forget it, I'll have fun with it, but we can forget it, we can move on. And he's hoping other people will look at him and judge him and not use other media outlets to decide what he is. And what J.D. Vance said is I let other people define who he was, saw some tweets, and that was my conclusion.

But then I got a chance to see him in action and I told him I was wrong. I think that whole sense of this is how you come back into the Trump world. I was wrong. or I'm giving you another shot. Yeah.

To give people an opportunity to reevaluate what they have been told by the the national media and to contemplate uh reevaluating Donald Trump. I thought that was one of the main themes. And y you know, when you and I talked um Last week on my show on Monday morning, we were both like, J.D. Vance, he said some nasty things about Trump. I don't think Trump's going to let that go.

And then here we go with J.D. Vance as the VP pick. That's got to be one of the motivating factors: to take someone who's young and dynamic and say to other young people, if you wrote this guy off in the past, give him a second look. Right. And Hulk Hogan, as I mentioned, was a great introduction.

What I think I'm also going to walk away from this week is learning to getting to know Donald Trump's family. and letting them talk about him because he clearly does not is not comfortable doing it.

So he's got everybody knows Eric, everyone knows Don, everyone knows Ivanka.

Well you know Tiffany a little bit and you know that Baron, we watched him grow up. He's now six nine. He's gonna probably be going to a college in New York City which I find relatively challenging especially the one he picked. But I was very shocked surprised to hear his granddaughter speak out. And his granddaughter actually went and did, Kai, went and did Sean Hannity last night with her father, Don C.

Don Jr. Here's a little of that interview, Cut 17. Once I got out there, it was just all from the heart. It just flowed really easily. I was nervous beforehand, but afterwards...

I got out there and I was just able to do it. John, what was your impression of her? She was great on stage. And she's another person that we didn't know of, you know, who went on stage and told a story that I think every mom and dad and grandparent will appreciate. I mean, it's not a new thing to do.

I think, you know, if you think back to other conventions, you get family members who are new to the American audience to come on and say nice things about you. You see Bush as a kid, actually, for Bush 41. Right, right. But this was really compelling. And the fact that she's a young woman, I think other young ladies will say, all right, you know, if she hated her granddad, she probably wouldn't be able to pull this off.

And it seemed very sincere. She seemed, you know, very sincere in what she was saying, and the stories resonated, I thought.

So Ivanka tells the story that her and her dad were so tight, he would call her during the day at school, and she'd be called to the payphone, like sometimes in the general office, and he would talk to him about different things. And then when Kyle Comes out and says, My grandfather will call me during the day and ask me about my golf game, and I'd say, Listen, I got to get back to school.

So then now we're in the cell phone era. And they say, Well, a lot of times when we golf, he'll try to get in my head. He forgets I'm a Trump, too.

So family pride, kid pride.

Next time you go after him, next time you decide you want to call him a Nazi and a narcissist. It's going to be harder. Because you heard it from his daughter-in-law, the personal side story. You heard it from Eric last night, but most of all, you heard it from her. Yeah, and you saw those little grandkids that were running around.

I think it's harder to attack him that way. Trump seems to me to be that guy that is Gruff. I mean, it's kind of typical New York, sorry for the New Yorkers here, but it's kind of gruff. When you first meet him, you're like, I don't really like this guy. But then, if you stop by the same restaurant every day or once a week, you begin to like the person, they thaw out a little bit to you.

And it's the contrast with the fake people who pretend to be nice to you, and then you find out six months later they're a total jerk. Donald Trump is appears to be the real thing. I was with your governor last night, Governor Glenn Youngkin. Yeah, he's great. I've been talking to him for a while.

He's great. He's starting to appreciate my sense. He didn't say this. When I first talked to him, when he first won and shocked the world by winning your state, I went and did spent a day with him, or at least six, eight hours with him. And I got the sense that Trump wasn't really his speed.

Not saying he disliked him, but. But they're very different people. He was just kind of like, okay. Yeah, we'll see what happens. You know, I'm not running for president.

We'll see. Donald Trump's as good a shot as anybody else. But I think after seeing this, getting a chance to see him two weeks ago, I guess, in a rally that he had there, I think he appreciates him much more now. And I think that Trump's going to probably try to approach him, if not right away, soon. But do you think Glenn Young has national representation?

Well I was around him a lot this week, too, because I was a member of the Virginia delegation, and he spoke several times to the Virginia delegation. And I did notice that he had a camera crew following him around, so you don't generally do that unless you're getting file footage for something in the future. Like you, he hadn't told me anything about this, but I've got to believe that the guy has plans for the future. And he should. I mean, he is solid, and he's a very different personality from Donald Trump.

I mean, I joke on my show that I'm so glad he's the governor, and he's very religious. And, you know, he probably wears a What Would Jesus Do wristband. I kind of want mad, angry Jesus flipping over the tables in Richmond with all the Democrats down there, but he is very calm. Even when they're attacking him, he's very calm.

So he's. Kind of a polar opposite of Donald Trump personality-wise, but they do appear to be hitting it off on some level. John Reed's with me now. John is contemplating a run for office. We'll learn about that in just a moment.

He's the host of Richmond's Morning News with John Reed. And that's on AM1140 WRVA, but you can get it online, right? Oh, yeah. People listening around the country right now can listen to you online. Yeah, WRVA.com.

It's really been great, and they love you since we added you. I'm thrilled to be here. And WRVA. Thank you very much. And we love Hulk Hogan.

He's going to be on in about 25 minutes. More with John Reed in just a moment. You listen to the Brian Kilmy Show for the last time in Milwaukee, I guess, in 2024. Who knows if we're coming back? We're not sure.

We could. Brewers go to the World Series. Yeah. Back in a moment. Stay tuned for more of Brian Killmead, live from the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, next.

From Milwaukee, Wisconsin, home of the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Killmead. Hey, we are back. We've got a few more minutes with John Reed, host of Richmond's Morning News. He's over at AM 1140 WRVA. And, John, you've been here all week, and from your perspective, and you're also a delegate, but you're also thinking about doing something in politics.

I'm contemplating, and I'll tell you what, Virginia, it was a miracle that Glenn Younkin, Winsome Sears and Jason Miaris swept the top spots for Republicans in Virginia three years ago. And everybody's kind of holding their breath, like, is that an aberration? Did Glenn Young's wealth you know, he spent $20 million of his own money, was that what pulled everyone across the line? Or is Virginia in play regularly with responsible leaders? And for the longest time, I've been in the media, and I thought, well, that's just what I'll do.

But you know, 2020 happened, Brian, and I'm looking around, trying to find leaders who will stand up. To stop the violence, who will actually call out the bad guys and not worry about somebody's going to call them racist or. Xenophobic. And, you know, I do this radio show early in the morning, and I was like, I'm going to do it. You know, I'm going to stop being a journalist and start being an advocate for the things I believe in.

And the more I look at it, the more I think, maybe this is maybe running for lieutenant governor, maybe next year in our statewide elections is a place that I can help set the agenda and argue conservative positions in a way that people will embrace. Do you have to run with a governor? Do you run a running government? Do you run separate, which cuts both ways? If you've got somebody who's rich who can help with the ticket, that can help you.

In this case, I expect that Winsom Sears probably is going to announce that she's running for governor. She told me on my show this morning she is definitely not running for lieutenant governor again, so that kind of clears the way. I think one can assume she's going to run for governor. And then the question is whether Jason Miaris, who's a great attorney general, does he try to battle it out for that top spot? But, you know, by the start of next year, I'll make a decision about whether I'm going to jump in.

I'm kind of excited about it, though. Yeah, so would you have the infrastructure? Would you know the people? Would you be able to get the consultants? What kind of personal investment do you need?

Well, my last credit card bill was 18 grand just associated with this. I feel guilty throwing out those mailers because now I know how much they cost. It's unbelievable how the money just went. What has come back in some of your early testing? Oh, people are excited.

You know me. That's the key thing. I think people are hungry, especially on the conservative side. They're hungry for people who are willing to go out and take a risk, who are willing to say the things that they're kind of scared to say. Just like Trump was saying last night, and some of the people talked about Trump.

You can inspire bravery by being brave.

Now, he did it in an unbelievable way with the assassination attempt and standing back up and not being scared. But, you know, all of us, I think, have got to stop cowering and being worried about being called names. And stand up for what we believe in. And, you know, I'm willing to do it on some level on the radio show. I guess there's no real risk for me other than being fired doing that.

But getting into the political arena seems like that might be a smart next step to try to leave. Dan Patrick, who owns our great affiliate in Houston, he decided to leave radio and become lieutenant governor, as you know, of Texas. And he's been fantastic, and it also helps you can communicate. No matter how complex the thing, whether you've got flood problem, electric problem, border problem, Dan Patrick, you gives you doing this, you have a fundamental knowledge of a lot. And how to communicate with people, what their questions may be on the front end.

You know, and a lot of people forget that prior to doing this radio show, I was comms director for George Allen in the U.S. Senate, the former governor of Virginia. I worked for Ronald Reagan when he left the White House in L.A.

So I've been around this for a while, and I've tried to build a network just in case this was something that ever presented itself. And I'll be honest with you, Brian, I'm a gay guy, so a lot of people go, oh my God, you can't possibly run. I think things have changed. If you're a responsible person, if you put in the work, you show you're conservative. You show that you're with the party and with the movement and with the fundamental principles that we all believe in.

I'm hoping that people will give me, you know, just study me and watch me and see if I'm the guy that they want.

So, a couple of things. Reagan movies coming out, and Dennis Quaid's. I'm excited about it. Yeah, and they have cooperation from the Reagan family and the Reagan Library. How well, and you might not be able to answer this or might not want to, so feel free to punt.

How was he when he left office, Ronald Reagan? When he left office, how much was he with it? Yeah, I was with him in 1993. I started on the day Bill Clinton took office, January 20th, 1993. I can tell you, the first four years already.

Yeah, the Alzheimer was there. There were days he knew my name, and I was with him every single day. There were days he knew my name, and there were other days he said, oh, the tall guy. He just couldn't grasp my name. Did he know he couldn't?

Did he know something? Yeah, he was. I seemed to know.

Well, he had written that letter already, right? No, that was the next year. That's when I left at the end of 93. I've said frequently. Ronald Reagan, four years out of office, and I can testify to it personally, he was not as bad off as Joe Biden appears to be today.

Wow. I mean, you know, there were problems. Reagan gave speeches, and sometimes he misspoke or read the same card a couple of times, but he was very disciplined. And when you talk to him about principles, man, he knew what he was talking about. It was just like your grandpa or your father.

They can't remember where they were this morning or what they ate for lunch, but they can tell you what they believe in. They can go back. And he was solid on that. And I think that's one of the things that's concerning to me about Biden, even as a partisan, if I try to step back from it. This guy can't do the job because he's so far gone.

I keep saying that. You're not doing the job. No press conferences, no town halls. You don't give interviews until recently. You don't meet with your cabinet for nine months.

That's not doing the job.

Well, good luck. When do you think you'll make a decision? Probably the beginning of next year. John Reed, thanks so much. And check them out at 1140WRVA.

And you also listen online wherever you are. Live from the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. You've seen this kind of election before. You see the same thing in Hungary. Like the Orbanism of the party is rooted in returning.

White Christian men, but also white men and j white adjacent men, you know, black men, brown men who are like white adjacent in terms of trying to also be in that dominant position in society. And then you have women who are willing to go along with that, right? There are a certain number of women who are also willing, the trad wife sort of thing.

Okay. Please count me as somebody who Thought white adjacent men weren't white. What does that even mean? Joy Reed has to racialize and sensationalize everything. Victor Orban's a friend of the president, he likes the guy.

There's I was one of the few in the EU that likes him and is one of the few in NATO that likes him. But white adjacent men, what are you even talking about? There's no race involved. Maybe you're upset that Donald Trump's getting 26% of the African American vote. A lot of males.

And a lot of males are seeing that sometimes feel like they're under attack, and that's lawfare. And a lot of them say, you know, they know what it's like to be shot at. And guess who else knows what it's like to be shot at? Donald Trump. And guess who popped up after that?

Donald Trump. So one of those people that is one of those phony, tough guys? I don't know. I don't think you can put him in that category anymore. Or you could confuse me thoroughly and call him white adjacent.

I didn't think race was part. Of the president's speech last night, especially because he was just talking about cracking down a crime, cracking down on the border, doing his greatest hits, as well as talking to people about what it was like to be shot at and how responsible he feels for the death of one of his followers and voters and the injured and the wounded, the other two. Guess what? He called all three families, he's talked to the two survivors, and he gave tribute. To Corey, whose firefighter jacket and helmet arrived on the stage.

It was a pretty cool night.

Now, in about 10 minutes, you're going to hear from Hulk Hogan. He was one of the stars, in my view, yesterday.

So he came out and he said nothing was really written down for him. But you just think about this: as Mark Thiessen said, you know, Mitt Romney was introduced by Newt Gingrich and John McCain, had Joe Lieberman and all these traditional Republicans who are family members introduced them. Donald Trump had Dana White and Hulk Hogan, UFC president and wrestling legend. Here he is, cut nine. But I look out.

And I see all the real Americans. I think about How Donald Trump His family was compromised. When I look out there and I see Donald Trump, I think about how his business was compromised. But what happened last week when they took a shot? And my hero.

And they tried to kill The next President of the United States. Oh no! Was enough. Let Trumpomania run wild, brother. Let Trumpomania rule again.

Let Trumpomania make America great again. And so he's ripping his shirt off, and underneath it says Trump Vance. How close that is to Trump Pence, but Trump Vance. And they went wild. And I just thought that was so cool.

I did not know he was slow to the Trump camp. I did not know they've been friends for thirty years. Cut ten. You know something, Trumpites. I didn't come here as Hulk Hogan, but I just had to give you a little taste.

You my name My name is Terry Balea. And as an entertainer, And as an entertainer, I tried to stay out of politics. But after everything that's happened to our country over the past four years. And everything that happened last weekend, I can no longer stay silent. I'm here tonight.

Because I want the world to know that Donald Trump is a real American hero. And I'm proud to support my hero as the next President of this United States. I thought that was so cool, and I thought he was so great. In the introduction, the president's speech was a great start. I thought it was a little long.

I don't think we needed to go through everything there. Less is more, but it was supposed to be 53 minutes, it was an hour and a half. But I don't think anything's going to remember it. They just know that they're there, they love them, but at home you've got to convert them. You never know who they're going to be up against because it doesn't look like it's going to be Joe Biden.

But there was no doubt about it. Dana White told us on this show that if he was asked, he was going to be at the RNC. After all, when Donald Trump was at his controversial best, Dana White was asked, and he said, Dana, you don't have to do this. A lot of people don't want to do it, but I would love for you to be at the RNC and introduce me. And he said, I'm there for you.

And he was. He said, I said, what if they ask again? And he said, well, I'll do it.

Well, he's on vacation. Trump calls and says, would you introduce me? Here it is, cut 12. telling you what to think I'm telling you what I know. And I know President Trump.

I know President Trump is a fighter. I've been saying this since 2015.

Now look at what's happened over the last 10 years. We have all seen it with our own eyes. I'm in the tough guy business, and this man is the toughest, most resilient human being that I have ever met in my life. The higher the stakes, the harder he. fights and this guy never ever gives up.

So what's at stake here? The answer is in President Trump's text, and I quote. a fight for our country. And he went on to say, listen, I know you have a family vacation. I hate to take you away.

And he said, this guy's caring about my family vacation.

Meanwhile, he's trying to get elected president of the United States.

So the question is, who's the president running against? We've never seen this before. It's as if it's akin to getting to the World Series, getting to the Super Bowl, and earning every game, every win, belonging there in the finals, and have no idea where the other team is. Forget about who's going to emerge, where the other team is, and who it is.

So what do you do in the interim? Jason Miller joined us earlier. He says we're going to do some rallies. We're going to raise some money. We're going to get our message out.

He says it won't matter because the Democrats have the same policies. But I think it will. I think it does because. I think for the most part, you see that personality drives the message. And if you don't have a great personality, but you got a great agenda, it's going to be tough for you.

So let's see who they pick. Governor Shapiro, Governor Newsome, JP Pritzker. Are they going to battle it out with Governor Whitmer? Are they going to try to get Governor Bashir of Kentucky in there? Are they going to have to step past?

Kamala Harris? Is that indeed indeed even possible to do that?

Some people say it doesn't matter. Kelly and Conway weighed in on this perplexing situation. For the opposition party, cut 29. I'm really struck though that the Democrats right now, the Democratic leaders, aren't talking about caring about Joe Biden or Donald Trump. They're talking about Joe Biden's effect on the electoral count, on politics.

They're not being moral, they're being political. They're being medical. They're not being emotional for him. Not one of them is coming up and saying, I love Joe Biden. I want him to go spend the rest of his presidency in Delaware.

They're saying, oh my God, he's going to cost us the House, the Senate. Yeah. So Kellyanne Conway says, Can you leave be a little less callous? And you know, who all said that? Elon Omar said, basically, I cannot believe the lack of loyalty.

Now, I'm not a fan of hers, but I think she's right here. I mean, the way people have absolutely no problem tossing him into the fire. Listen to this. She writes, I can't tell you how shameful it feels to hear all of the leaks about what Democratic leaders are saying and not have a single one of them Let me get to the right page. A single one of them called Out There, Out Out More.

out here confirming or denying it. It's a lack of leadership, and it's making all Democrats look bad. Whatever this mess leads to will not undo the damage that has already been done. May God help us all. Here's a quote from Al Shorpton.

On his conversation with President Biden, they're friends, he said, I said whatever he does, I'll always respect what we've done together. I was not one to push him out of the race, but he needs to take a serious calculation of where we're at because I'm afraid all the things we fought for because of voting rights and affirmative action is at risk. He called me to let me know that he was hanging in the race no matter what I heard. He said, if anything changes, I will reach out. I got the feeling that he was trying to say to me that he is still running as much as he was telling himself to stay in the race.

He did not want me to join the chorus of people asking him to step aside.

So man, that is painful. He does not get it. The reason why a lot of people are hesitant is Kamala Harris. How do you walk past her? I asked Tulsi Gad I didn't I asked her in the past on the Saturday show, Here's Tulsi Gabbard on why VP Harris is not qualified, Cut 30.

She has been unqualified to serve as vice president and is not qualified or capable at all for the very real prospect that if Biden wins, she will be president of the United States. That's a fact. Regardless of who's on the top of the ticket as the Democrats figure this thing out, whether it's Biden-Harris or Harris, whoever. A president Kamala Harris will be Our commander-in-chief, and I can tell you as a soldier who's deployed to multiple war zones, and I can speak for a lot of my brothers and sisters in uniform, that prospect should be terrifying for all Americans. She is incapable and unqualified to be our country's commander-in-chief.

And she's lazy. Tulsi Gabbard took her apart. I'll play that for you next week. Because the debate was classic between them.

So, when we come back, my interview with Hulk Hogan, he was in the studio a short time ago. I'm going to bring it back for you. Also, just a quick note: I'm going to be in Stroudsburg next Saturday, so in eight days, I want you to meet me at the Sherman Theater, 524 Main Street, July 27th, History, Liberty, and Laughs. You know, I wrote Teddy and Booker T and President Freedom Fighter and Andrew Jackson, the Miracle of New Orleans, Sam Houston, the Alamo Avengers. We'll move through that in a fun way.

We're going to bring history to life. Then we'll get you all your questions about all this breaking news. I'll bring you inside the Fox with Fox is doing, all sponsored by Fox Nation. And also, a quick note on One Nation this Saturday night, we're going to have Corey Mills, we're going to have Jim Jewart, we're going to have Pierce Morgan, and we're going to have Mike Allen of Axios all on the breaking news involving the assassination investigation, as well as the latest on Joe Biden. It all could be coming apart for Joe this weekend.

From Milwaukee, Wisconsin, home of the Republican National Convention, it's Brian Kilmead. I hope Donald Trump is not listening right now, but I believe the star of the show last night was Hulk Hogan. You came out and just nailed it. You electrified the crowd. You've been doing it your whole career, but then you would do that and then you'd wrestle.

Last night it was time to set the tone, talk about your story, and then talk about President Trump. With me right now, it's Hulk Hogan. Thanks for coming over, Hulk. Yo, Brother B, it was really fun last night because when I went in the building, actually, it's the first time I've been in Milwaukee without beating somebody up and wrestling.

So when I saw the crazy crowd, the vibe was intense. The vibe, like I said, when I was out there, it felt like a wrestling crowd. It felt like I was getting ready to fight somebody for the title or body slam the Giants.

So the energy was there, and I was just trying to figure out how far down to push the gas. You're not nervous, right? Uh a little bit nervous simply because they wanted me to work off a teleprompter and they were driving me crazy in the back, wanting me to rehearse, and I've never done that before. You know, I usually it's all ad-lib and it's like I pivot and I and I do audibles, you know, and I and I work with the crowd, I feel and I think and I hear what the people want and then I respond, you know, accordingly.

So for me to get out there and Them throw a teleprompter up. Actually, my partner, Vo, is in the back of my manager, and one of the stage managers goes, He's been out there for six minutes. He hasn't said anything about the teleprompter. I'm surprised he's still out there.

So it was kind of funny, but it was coming from my heart, brother, because Donald Trump is a friend, and he's helped me. You know, he helped me 35 years ago when I was just getting the Hulthomania stuff rolling. We rented the Trump Plaza, like I said, on the air with you guys for four and five, WrestleMania 4-5. And he's a quality person, brother. I watched this guy like a hawk.

You know, I watch people how they treat other people. This guy is gold. And when I see how the press postures him and the stuff that they say about him. Short story. I was pushing groceries to the grocery store, and as I turned the aisle, you know, the tabloids were up by the cashier.

I turned the aisle, went down the other aisle, came back up to the other aisle. And as I looked at the cashier and the tabloids, it says, Hulk Hogan has a major heart attack. And I was like, What? And I did? You know, so I learned a long time ago, you can't believe anything that they say because, you know, they just push really hard to get that negative vibe.

And everything's negative about Trump, and none of that stuff is true. Especially with your four years in office. We could all make our own decisions. We don't need someone to decipher it for us.

Now, for you, you decide to come out and speak, and the main reason is after the attempted assassination on Saturday. How did you find out about it? What was your reaction?

Well, I was watching. I was at home watching him speak. And when I saw it go down, I went, Oh my God, you know, what is going on here? You know, and then as I watched farther and farther and I saw the area and the perimeter, and I'm going, okay, who dropped the ball? Was this intentional?

Why did this happen? All these questions started coming in my head, and then I got mad. Then I got really mad because this is the one guy that's a leader. I call him a gladiator, man. After I saw him get back up and he was just ready to continue the speech, is what he told me.

And at the end of the day, in the wrestling business, we had taken him back, wrapped his head like the spirit of 76, and sent him back out there. He'd have really gotten over then. But, you know, the thing was, he's such a quality person, and when I saw that happen, I hate to even say these words, but it got me so peed off. It made me so mad that I said, I'm sitting here like a coward. I'm watching what's happening in our country.

The border, the economy are. Our children are getting murdered and raped, and I'm sitting here like a coward not speaking up. That's it. I'm over it. I'm done with it.

I have to speak up. I have to tell people how to do it. I've talked to a lot of people who aren't famous who watch that and said, That's it. I'm voting for him. Do you think that ripple, your gut feeling?

Do you think other people had the same reaction you had? I do, I actually do. But I was the guy that was afraid to wear a Trump shirt. I was the guy that was afraid to wear a red hat. I was the guy that was afraid to put a Trump poster in my front yard.

Those days, Robert, brother, this guy is as good as a day as long. This is a quality person.

Okay, so he's got a little personality that some of us love and some of us don't love. But who doesn't? I mean, come on, brother. He loves his country. He loves America.

He loves the people here. And he wants to get us back on track.

So, you can do some other stuff with him? I hope so. Yeah, so it's up to the campaign to reach out to you. If they do, you'll be in. I hope so.

You know, I came off that stage and I was so emotional. I came off that stage. I ran into Eric Trump in the back and I started crying like a baby. Really? I broke down.

I cried like a baby. Why? The last time I saw Eric Trump, he was six years old, and I had him in a chokehold, and his dad was taking a picture of me holding Eric down in a chokehold, you know, and he had a Hulk management. I hadn't seen him since then. And just for him to be the first person I saw when I came off the stage, I couldn't stop crying.

I tell you, if you can judge somebody by their kids, he grades high. Oh, my gosh, his family, they are just so personable. They're so sharp. You know, the whole family is just an amazing thing. You're on the front page of FoxNews.com with your beer.

Tell me what is there. Tell me about this beer. Hulk's got his beer out there. Oh, my gosh. It is so funny because last night when I said we're going to bring America back together, one real American at a time, the theme for the beer.

Is bringing America back together one beer at a time. Because when I saw that open lane where Bud Light crashed and burned with their marketing plan, I saw, oh my gosh, this is Middle America, this is NASCAR Country Western, Purple Mountains, Majesty, everything Americana, you know. And I knew how competitive the beer market was, and that's what I do: I structure deals and I do merchandise and ancillary stuff. I've done it my whole life. And so when I saw this open lane, I said, America is waiting for the right beer to come along.

And I said, this beer is bigger than politics. Right. Because the Democrats are not. You want to get people together. Yeah, the Republicans and Democrats don't talk.

And if I can get people talking over a beer, it doesn't matter the color of your skin, doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter your religion, whether you're Democrat or Republican, we can bring real Americans back together one beer at a time. And how do we get it? Oh, by gosh, you can find it anywhere. Oh, now it's a tribute.

Okay, great. The other thing is, you're in unbelievable shape. It's an inspiration. It's 71 years old. Everybody was talking about it.

So you ripped your shirt off. And I'm like, this guy is ready to wrestle still. Great to see you, Hulk. Thanks for the quality again. Thank you, Jack.

And I'll catch up to you again. Oh, thank you, brother.

So I'm a big fan. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for listening. Brian Killmead from Milwaukee.

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