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From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Ahoy hoy, and welcome to. The Brian Killmeat Show. I am not Brian Killmeat.

I'm Brian's best work friend. My name is Kennedy and it is lovely to be here with you. Brian is uh having his Yearly bout of plastic surgery in Switzerland. Very, very excited about the results, which he will unveil in exactly one week. They're taking the bandages off today, and then it will be a series of saunas, charcoal baths, and some Swiss tinctures.

That's the reason he travels so far to look so good. But don't worry. We've got everything covered for you for this entire showgram. Brian has entrusted me at the helm, which I think was an incredibly foolish idea. But I am very, very willing to grab this bull by the horns and ride it all the way into the sweet, sweet radio sunset that my friend Brian Kilmead has laid before us.

So let me ask you something. In. 2020, when we're looking ahead at the presidential contest, because unlike in other countries, our presidential races never cease. People are always running for president. It takes a very long time, it takes a lot of money, a lot of resources, and a lot of focus from the The country?

Does it make us better as a society to have presidential campaigns that are interminable, that last for three and a half years at a time? I don't know. It's kind of exhausting. But for those of us who love and cover politics, the horse race never disappoints.

So if you look back, you know, four years ago, if you look back at 2019 and where we were. Pre-pandemic. Did you? Think that the two emergent voices and exploding candidacies would belong to Vivek Ramaswamy. and RFK Junior.

I don't think a lot of people have those two fellas on their bingo card, but here we are, and it's very interesting. And I know that especially RFK Junior, he is a lightning rod for controversy and opinion. And I'm okay with that because he's talking about ideas in ways that politicians normally don't, and which is confusing to people because, as my parents were Camelot Democrats, there are a lot of people who would like to return to the Kennedy dynasty when it felt like the country was entrusted to people who put public service and booty slapping ahead of all else in this country. And the mystique was created along with tragedy. And, you know, rising from the ashes, the political phoenix of that family turns out to be RFK Jr.

And Vivek Ramaswamy is another one of those people who has always had interesting ideas. But has coupled that with an unenviable work schedule in terms of reaching out to people, going to events, talking to people one-on-one. And, you know, this idea of door knocking is relatively new to presidential politics. The idea of going out and meeting people where they are, not just in New Hampshire, not just in Iowa. That's rote.

That is mediocre. But Vivek has always been a very clear thinker who has concisely put his ideas down. And now the thought of putting those ideas into action is resonating with a lot, a lot of voters. And that has to make. Other people who are running for president, like Tim Scott, Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, that has to make all of them very nervous, but especially maybe Ron DeSantis, because as Ron DeSantis is having a much tougher time keeping his campaign afloat, having fired a third of his campaign staff, Vivek is running a tight ship.

And like RFK Jr., you can't put him in one box. You cannot jam him in one category. And you know, these these are two people who sit around and think about solutions. Even if you don't agree with them, you have to respect the process. Vivek Ramaswamy joins me now.

Welcome to the Brian Kill Me Chow, Vivek. It's good to be on. How you doing? I'm doing real good. I mean, this is a it's a crazy time.

And when I look at a candidacy like yours, I know what's important to you culturally. I know what must feel like economic urgency for voters, but how How do you rank what is most important to tackle when you're running for president? I think we have to get to the heart of what's actually None in our country, Kennedy. And the economy is In Malays. It's true that we're facing a loss of our stature on the global stage.

But these things are ups are downstream of the real upstream cause. which is, I think, a loss of national identity itself. We're in the middle of this identity crisis as a country where Faith and patriotism and hard work and family, the things that used to ground us. They have disappeared. And I think that that shows up, that leaves a black hole in its wake.

And then various poisons fill that void.

So the cultural poisons that many others like to talk about as well, from wokeism to transgenderism to climatism, but even a flailing economy, even depression, anxiety, sentinel usage, These are symptoms of a deeper void of purpose and meaning in our country. And I think what's part of what's fueling our rise. Is that message of getting to the root cause of what's going on, but also having an unapologetic actual rise on the back of it? For saying this is what we're running to. We're not just running from something, we're running to something.

That's exactly what we're doing. Yeah, and I don't disagree with you. I think that we should return to being an aspirational country, you know, a country that wants to do well, a country that wants our neighbors to do well, a country that won't accept the dissolution of cities and the violation of rights when disgusting behavior proliferates. You know, I was looking at video today of women just strolling out of a Burlington Coke factory with three giant shopping carts full of stolen goods, and that's fine. You look at what's happening with homeless encampments and women being raped and people defecating on sidewalks, and that is the downfall of civil society, and that is not okay.

But you talk about, you touch on something that I think is critically important, and I agree with you that there is a root cause here, but we have a Mental health. crisis happening right now. And it started in the pandemic, especially with young adolescents. And it has now made a ripple effect and it's not getting better. And I don't know that I necessarily trust government to make it better because I think they have Created a lot of the environments that make this mental health care crisis worse, but they don't have the solutions.

But you also have a government that is spending itself out of control and into oblivion.

So, how would your presidency fix those two things?

Well, I think you're getting to the root cause there as well. money is another substitute, the fake money that we're printing, money reigning from on high like mana from heaven, to it's like showering cocaine on a cocaine attic. That doesn't actually solve the underlying problem. And I think to describe it as a mental health epidemic, that's accurate. But I think it's even The cause of that mental health epidemic is something that predates the pandemic.

I think the pandemic just exposed it and made it worse. Which was this deeper void of purpose. And I do not want the government, Kennedy, solving that problem. The government cannot solve that problem. That's going to require a revival in every sphere of our life, the revival of family, the revival of faith, the revival of the value and virtue of individual hard work.

But here's what the government can do: at least stop throwing kerosene on the flames. Right now, the government pays people to do the exact opposite of what they should want to do, more to stay home than to go to work.

Well, that's not only bad for an economy, it's also bad for depression and anxiety. That's part of what fuels depression and anxiety when people lose their sense of self worth by playing video games in their parents' basements as millennials rather than getting a job. paying people more. Single mothers in the inner city of Chicago, the South Side, or Kensington and Philadelphia, where I've visited, more money not to have a man in the house. tend to have a man in the house.

They're responding to that economic incentives, but that's part of what gives us a 25% fatherlessness epidemic. across the country. Talk about paying people more not to repay their student loan debts than to pay it back. And so the government has played a big role in this, part of that with the money printer machine at the Fed. But what they've done is repeatedly paid people to do the opposite of what is even best for them.

So, no, do I expect the government to serve as a pastor and revive that missing sense of faith? No, I think we need pastors and other people across this country, family leaders. and coaches and teachers and parents to do that. But what we do need to do is get the government out of the way. A big part of how we do it is to shut down that federal bureaucracy.

that administrative state, which I've offered If I may say it myself, Kennedy, unprecedented clarity on exactly how we would do it, the mechanics of it. I do intend to get this done. And when I leave office in January of twenty thirty three, I will on good terms tell the American people that we once again have three branches of government instead of four. We're not dependent on our enemy for our modern way of life. Our economy is growing again as a result at four plus percent.

And most importantly, young Americans and all of us. are proud to be American again today in 2033. And that will cause the economic malaise and the psychological malaise and the mental health epidemic. To, in many ways, sort itself out as a byproduct of it. That's the way I see it.

And I see an opportunity to actually do it, Kennedy, but I need to be the president. to be able to lead that in the same way Reagan did. And that's why I'm in this race.

So let's talk a little bit about RFK Junior because you guys touch on a lot of the same themes. Did you have you and RFK Junior on your presidential bingo card four years ago? I did not, no. Do you think he's interesting and do you follow his campaign? I think he is interesting.

I've spoken to him several times over the course of the campaign. I don't agree with everything he says. I mean, he is, I'm dead set against affirmative action. He's. In favor of it, I think he favors much more aggressive climate policies than I do.

I think the climate change movement's occult, but that's healthy disagreement. We both respect the virtues of free speech, of individual self-determination and self-governance. Of a constitution with three branches of government, not four. And one of That disappoints me is that the Democratic Party isn't even letting him debate. I want the Democratic Party to be the best version of itself.

That makes our country stronger. It makes the Republican Party better. Yeah, and I would like for Joe Biden to answer some of the inconsistencies about his son's business dealings alone. I don't want him to be further shielded by other Democrats and by mainstream media.

So, you know, in two years, God forbid, if he's re-elected, he goes downhill even faster. And those institutions are looking at each other like they're kind of surprised. How do you think the issues that he's got with Hunter Biden and as the revelations grow and reveal themselves, how much trouble? Does that pose for his reelection? I think it poses serious trouble for his reelection, and I expect to be the nominee, Kennedy.

But I am the nominee. I don't think they're going to let Joe Biden run against me. I think they're gonna put up a different pop-up. This puppet will have outlived his purpose. And I do not think the juxtaposition of me as the candidate for the Republican Party against him as the Democrat running.

is going to be something that they're going to be able to sustain, especially after having pointed out to alleged misdeeds of his what he thinks is his main competitor now, Trump. That's going to boomerang back when I'm the nominee. And I think that, that's not going to be able to sustain even a a facially plausible campaign. It'll be Gavin Newsome or Michelle Obama or somebody else, a different case. I don't think it's going to be Michelle Obama.

I think it's Gavin Newsome wants it so badly. He's got very pointy elbows and he he's going to use those elbows to burst the Vice President's balloon.

Now one thing that I would like to fan the flames of your libertarianism. I hope that you return to a philosophical model of limited government in all of your words and deeds. And I know when you were an undergrad at Harvard, you had some libertarian freestyle leanings, and you, in fact, had a very fruitful alter ego, Devec, who was. An accomplished freestyle rapper. Listen to this.

You better lose yourself in the music the moment you own it, you have an element. No, you only get one shot. Do not push your chance above. This opportunity comes. It's in a lifetime.

You better lose yourself. That is that is Vivek Ramaswamy. Back in the early aughts, feeling Eminem, unleashing the lyrical miracle on the crowd. Uh does does that uh Undergraduates young MC still exist in this presidential hopeful. The spirit Of it absolutely is in my bones.

I still have those libertarian instincts deep in my bones. Believe me, that was me that was me rapping on Eminem, but I've also been. I was an original lyricist as well at times during college. You were. But I believe in, so I haven't changed those convictions, I've just added to them, Kennedy.

So I c I believe the individual should be free from the state. I also believe that there are things that the individual needs to figure out for himself on how to live a meaningful life. And I care about those questions too, which is what leads me to be a conservative today, but with those. Deeply anti-government libertarian instincts woven into my very soul. And you have my word that that is how I will lead this government accordingly.

It's why shutting down the unconstitutional regulatory state is at the top of my domestic policy agenda. And I just don't believe in slogans. I believe in truth and I believe in reality, which is why we've offered really painstaking detail on exactly how I'm going to do it. I've been a CEO. I've built multibillion dollar businesses before.

Yes, the federal bureaucracy will be a bigger beast than any I've taken on in the past. But I'm in this 'cause I'm ready for the job. And that's the That's the fire I want you to hold my feet to. All right, so let me I I have a very important question for you. I knew I know that you grew up just outside Cincinnati.

Do you love Joe Burrow as much as my eighteen-year-old daughter does? I think I do. I have to confess that. I really maybe not in the same way, but But In the same magnitude, yes. That's what I would say.

Alright, well Vivek, best of luck to you as your campaign continues to surge. It has been a fascinating experience seeing you deflect and create. And I have very high hopes. Vivek Ramaswamy, thanks for stopping by. From the Fox News Podcasts Network.

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Well, he's never been very good with words. No, but I wouldn't, I'm not reluctant to say that for partisan reasons. No, what I've tried to do during this campaign. Is avoid personal attacks on people. I will say, whether he's up to it or not, whether he's making his own decisions.

The decisions that are coming out of the White House are bad decisions. Get You don't have to be reluctant at all. Go ahead and give it. He's not fit to serve. That's obviously RFK Jr.

in his town hall earlier this week with Sean Hannity talking about whether The president is fit to serve. He's not. And that's okay to admit. And we're actually pretty horrible people if we continue with this elder abuse. And it was a very interesting sit-down that RFK Jr.

and Hannity had. And the thing that I respect about him, so I met RFK Jr., I met him a few times. I've interviewed him several times. We were both at Freedom Fest in Memphis about a week and a half ago. And it was nice to talk to him and to hear him answer people's questions.

He doesn't have a filter, which, you know, if you loved it in Trump, you should love it with every politician. Don't hold back. Don't shellac yourself. Don't dip yourself in clear nail polish and make us think that you're shiny and impervious. Get a little dirty.

Tell us the truth. It's the Brian Kill Me, Tron Kennedy. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show.

Now it's Time to tackle Florida. And whether or not Ron DeSantis has what it takes. To cross the finish line or even make the podium. His uh acumen in doubt joining me now. He's the editor of National Review.

author of The Case for Nationalism, Rich Lowry here on the program. Hey, Rich. Speaking about acumen at a podium, you you introduced a panel I was on at the Freedom Fest and just lit up this crowd of fifty people at uh 8:45 in the morning, or whatever it was. It's really funny because Freedom Fest is a four-day convention. It's in Las Vegas every other year, and in the off-Vegas years, it goes to different cities.

This year it was Memphis. And although it's a very dangerous city, people still they find their way out into the world throughout the conference. And you know, the the first full day, the first morning, Thursday morning, there are a lot of people in attendance. But as the week rolls on, fewer and fewer people make those early morning sessions to their detriment. Yeah, so my my conclusion I didn't know about the the rotating um alternating uh site, but it just seemed to me having been to the Las Vegas Freedom Fest and then to this one, they just choose the hottest, muggiest city they can find.

Yeah, can't always be a dry heat. Yeah, exactly right. And and a really dangerous one, which uh was it was it was fun because I haven't uh been in head-to-toe Kevlar in quite some time.

So that was that was a nice change.

So, Rich, you and I are both Yankees fans. I hear that you have been so effective as National Review editor, they're thinking about replacing Aaron Boone with you. Are those rumors true? Poor Aaron Boone. You know, it's not his fault that none of these guys can hit, but it's been distressing and not a lot of fun.

You know, when you have a team that can hit but has terrible pitching, at least it's entertaining, right? You're losing 10 to 9 or something, but losing 3 to 1 or 5 to nothing is not great shakes. Yeah, or 9 to 9. To three. That also will hit you right in the baby maker.

So let's talk politics because this presidential race, I was just talking to Vivek Ramaswamy, and he was one of the non-traditional candidates who was gaining traction. Ron DeSantis had such an unbelievable victory coming into this presidential cycle. Has he squandered all of that goodwill? Are we witnessing a full-blown implosion? What is happening here by your estimates?

So everything is consistent with the total meltdown. That doesn't mean he's necessarily heading to oblivion because he can have meltdowns and come back. You know, it's happened to John Kerry, John McCain. Other instances, but you'd prefer not to be not to be melting down. And I think the you know, I'm actually writing a comment about this as we speak.

The Florida, the Ron DeSantis Florida, the Florida version of Ron DeSantis as governor would talk to anyone, right? We all saw these clips of him at gaggles and press conferences with hostile jousting with hostile reporters. Instead of building on that, they cocooned him. Vivek will talk to anyone. And for a while there, DeSantis would only talk to friendly media.

That was a big mistake. When he was governor of Florida, they showed no signs that they really thought Twitter was the key to unlocking electoral magic in Florida, but that's the way they've acted in the presidential campaign. And then also, he was a governor with a big pragmatic streak. He was cleaning up the waters and protecting the waters and repairing bridges quickly and responding effectively to hurricanes. And the cultural stuff was part of what he was doing.

But you look at his re-election ads, it was mostly like he saved my job. Paid me more as a teacher, that kind of stuff. And in an attempt to get to Trump's right on the culture, he's almost emphasized nothing else, or at least you hear nothing else, even though 40, 50 percent of Republicans say the economy is their most important issue. And then, you know, the biggest thing, though, is like he wasn't running against Trump in Florida, right? He was running against Charlie Crist, a kind of washed out has-been who'd switched parties.

And Trump changes everything. And that's, I think, if DeSantis wasn't running against Trump, that's a big if. You know, if Trump wasn't in the field, DeSantis would be the frontrunner, not necessarily the nominee. There's still other problems with him and his campaign. But the big factor defining this race is Trump and the indictments.

And Trump went to a higher he was already ahead, but he went to a higher trajectory after the Bragg indictment, and he stayed there. Is there any way for someone like Ron DeSantis, and this could apply to the other candidates, to. Take issue with Trump's moral standing. And if there is truth to any of the indictments, attack him on that and make a case that he also, like Joe Biden, is not fit to serve because of those moral failings, but at the same time, rail against the weaponization of government, which Trump supporters and non-Trump supporters see very clearly. How do you thread that needle?

Yeah, I mean there is a needle to be threaded there somewhere. It's just tough because you look at the polling and Republicans are open to alternatives to Trump. They just don't want Trump attacked.

So how does that work? How are you going to figure that out? It's very hard. And I think a version of it is kind of what you're outlining. You shouldn't have been indicted over the documents, sir.

That's ridiculous. If I'm elected, you're getting pardoned for that immediately. It shows politicized justice. But what were you doing? What are these things in your bathroom?

We can't be distracted by this. We need to be more effective, more serious. Maybe something like that can work. But I emphasize maybe. It just might be that Trump is the the quasi-incumbent.

Quasi-incumbents don't lose, and he's going to be the nominee for the third time. It doesn't really matter what anyone says or does.

Okay.

So what happens when you have written about this? You've got a Democrat Party who knows that they hate Trump and they will make a case for they would like to impeach him even though he's not in office. You know, they want to indict him. They want to prosecute him. They want to incarcerate him.

They hate him so much. But there's this odd tension in the Democrat Party because they hate the country so much that they want someone they despise to be the nominee. I mean, that's a really disgusting place for our politics to land. You mean they want Trump to be the nominee? Yes.

Yeah. They they think he is the most beautiful of the plausible Republican candidates. They're probably right about that. They're probably right about that maybe in 2016, but we saw how it turned out in 2016. And I think it'd be kind of a coin flip, a Trump-Biden race.

The the general election polling, for whatever it's worth, is pretty even. Trump's ahead in a number of these polls. And Biden's just incredibly weak in terms of his political standing, in terms of his literal Standing. I mean, he's increasingly rickety, and everyone can see it and feel it, and that shows up in the polls. And then that also, by the way, doesn't get better.

That doesn't resolve itself. I don't know if anyone's ever had a grandparent, but when you know, when they're on the downward trajectory, they tend not to bounce back up. Yeah, so if it's some medical condition, it's not getting better. If it's just aging, it doesn't get better. And I went through this with my parents, my mom in particular, God bless her soul.

But when they start to walk that way, you've got to wait, is there the corner of the rug's up? You're holding your breath every step. And that's kind of where we are with Biden now. There's a story NBC did the other day about how he's not going up the big steps. Uh on Air Force One anymore, um, with most of the Huh?

This story referred to apparently, you know, JFK, who had his own health issues. They used a cherry picker once to get him in to Air Force One, and we might be that way there through the middle of the day. That was before the invention of the iPhone. I mean, can you how much how much impact would that have on the country in the race if we saw the president in one of those s stair carriers where he just sits in it and and has a a little safety belt and just all the way up the the steps of Air Force One? I know.

I think it's it'd be pretty unsustainable. You know, the way I think about it is if he doesn't need a walker now, he'll probably need one in a year. Can a President of the United States have a walker? Probably not, right?

So so they'll just trot him out until something terrible happens. And there have been some close calls. There was one in the G7 summit in Japan. He was coming down concrete steps and he lost his balance and caught himself, thank God. But it would have been horrible.

It would have been a horrible scene. And if you're a Democrat, I mean, if you're an American, you have to fear this. If you're a Democrat, you have to fear it, because it might be that he stays upright until October 2024 when he's in a tight race with Trump and then has a terrible fall, you know, and is at a rehab facility for weeks and loses the general.

So he's a really risky proposition for the Democrats. Yeah, no, I mean, my grandmother, God rest her soul, she fell down, same thing, lost her footing, broke her hip, never got out of bed. She lived for 15 months. They were glorious months, and we loved having her there, but her quality of life was deeply compromised, and it happened in a half a second. But, you know, we talk about the president's deficits, which are numerous, his deficits, but we don't talk about the things.

That he's done right, the miracles that he has performed. Here's cut 14. And there's still, we're still feeling the profound loss of the pandemic, as I mentioned, of over 100 people dead. That's 100 empty chairs around the kitchen table. every single loss.

There are so many people left behind and broken heart. I mean, he has been so good as president. He actually reanimated. The millions of people who died from COVID. And now he's so good at Lazarusing those who have passed that we're down to a hundred victims.

So I actually hadn't heard that clip yet.

Now, was this the same event where he also said we'd ended cancer? You see that one? Yeah, yeah. No, you want to hear that? Here we go.

Here's your Joe Biden Cancer. why why America have sort of lost faith for a while and be being able to do big things. If you could do anything at all, Joe, what would you do? I said I cure cancer. They looked at me like, why cancer?

Because no one thinks we can. That's why we can. We'd end the cancer as we know it. Did we? Did we end cancer as we know it?

Man. I mean, that's great. I wish that were true, Rich. I know. Don't we all?

I mean, we we all n know people who are in the throes of battling cancer now.

So yeah, that that'd be miraculous and wonderful. Not true. This is the the worst clip since I guess it was last week with the President of Israel nearly falling asleep reading his notes.

So as you say, it it's it's not going to get better. And Democrats know this. They talk about it privately. You probably have some green room conversations with your Democratic friends about this, but very few will admit it publicly.

So who do they want? I obviously you can't have Kamala Harris because She's so incompetent and incapable of stringing sentences together. People throw their hands up and they just go, Yeah, maybe, maybe she's drinking. That's it. Maybe the job, maybe there's so much emotional and professional pressure that she's just taken to the bottle as a coping mechanism.

That's the only thing that and I'm not accusing the vice president of being a stumbling drunk. I don't think that's it. I think that her challenges are deeper seated. Yeah, that's his. No, this is why they're just hoping for the best with Joe Biden, right?

Kamala Harris would be a debacle. And Gavin Newsom, you know, it's so obvious, right? He's just hovering behind Biden. Sir, I hope you don't take a wrong step today, you know. But I'll be here if you do.

You know, he looks the part. He has charisma, but way over mainstream cultural positions if you're in California, but way out there in terms of the rest of the country. And also personal stuff that's okay in California, but I think even in contemporary America would be kind of difficult to uh defends.

So, you know, th th I think both parties would probably be best off with like a a boring some boring candidate, right? J just some boring competent person uh on the Democratic side, some no name senator probably beat Trump. Um you know, just an average Republican would probably beat Biden, but it the the odds are on a uh Biden Trump um rematch and they're they're both uh really unpopular and uh as I say I think it'd be about a about a uh about a coin flip.

So what you're saying is we deserve Henry Quayar versus Mike Pence. Yeah. Let's bring it on, America.

So who do you think if if DeSantis implodes and he can't get his footing again, who on the Republican side do you see surging and moving in?

Well, I think both Vivek and Tim Scott are due to have a moment. You've seen in some national polls, Vevaik picking up, not so much in state polls, whereas in the state polls you've seen Scott, at least in some of them, getting high singles, low doubles. He's not rocketing, but the trajectory is upward. And the debates tend to shift things around a little bit. I don't think Trump's going to be there.

I think he's going to let them be scorpions in a bottle, the rest of these candidates. But someone's going to excel there, and that might matter. I just at the moment, it might be because I lack imagination, it's hard for me to see anyone besides DeSantis Um eating enough into the the MAGA vote and then uh also holding enough traditional Republicans to get to 50. Um you know, uh it's it's I I think Scott is probably too conventional to do that. I mean Vivek just doesn't doesn't have the uh uh the experience and hasn't taken any hits hits yet.

Um so if DeSantis is flaming out, it doesn't mean that Trump can't be beaten, but it it certainly increases Trump's odds some more, I think.

So do you think there is the the Veep stakes between Tim Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy right now? Is Nikki Haley out of that picture? I don't think she's out of the picture. I think all three of those would be possibilities and some other more maggotish figures who are close to Trump. But This is something that will be interesting to watch, is just how when we really, really rubber hits the road and we're getting closer to people caucusing and voting, how much more aggressive at all is a Tim Scott or a Vake or a Nikki Haley against Trump knowing, you know what, if he makes it and the odds are he does, maybe I'll be his VEP selection.

Did it hurt Mike Pence? Uh what? I don't think it hurt him. I I think clearly the the end hurt him. But he was going to have trouble being reelected governor of Indiana.

And then he held a major constitutional office and was at the center of power For four years, my view did absolutely the right thing on January 6th, and his standing among Republicans has been plummeting. Ever since.

So it just shows doing the right thing does not necessarily benefit your political career. We were aware of this, I think, for a long time, but this is a pretty stark example of it.

Well, we'll see if there is a Republican who can create the kind of coalition that RFK Jr. is working like crazy to put together right now because you have people from very different philosophical backgrounds. And RFK Jr.'s message is resonating with him, including some Fox viewers. And he is touching on certain things that they like what they're hearing. Yeah, he was out of Freedom Fest.

Working that crowd, most of whom aren't Democrats. And I think if there's an independent candidate who would have some viability, I think it's basically just the way our system works, it's impossible. But this RFK Jr. would be a more potent independent candidate than a Joe Manchin or a John Hunter. Yeah, no, and I know you like the Boring, but I don't think boring candidates poke through in the third-party side.

Rich Lowry, thank you so much. We'll be looking for that article on DeSantis. Thank you, Derek. It's Brian Kilmicho. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmade.

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Hello, Kennedy. It is wonderful to be with you. I love that term, party cash. Yeah, that's right. Because that's what we're going to do with it because it's our cash.

Taxation is theft.

So, how do we make more money in an economy that is very, very strange? Because if you go to the grocery store, and please explain this to me, because none of it, I don't remember living through an economic time like this where you hear that. We have record unemployment. You hear that the housing market really hasn't gone down, although interest rates are going up. You hear that consumer confidence is high.

Yet, when we go to the grocery store, we're not paying 8% more. It feels like we're paying 50% more for things we tend to buy every single day.

So people. People are hurting, things are expensive, but we're being told everything is great. What's the truth? I think that the truth is neither that things are terrible or that things are all wonderful. And I would, if I were running for president right now as an incumbent, I would not try to make a slogan out of my last name and economics as a campaign theme.

You can do that when you get 4% real GDP growth, meaning economic growth, which doesn't lie, and no one has to ask if we're having it or not. You remember that old line? It was the judge about pornography. He knows. I know it when I see it.

And I'd like to see some more of it just so I know what I'm looking at because it's disgusting. My advice to my friends on the right is don't claim the economy is doing terribly when people are not going to say that it is. Usually that's wages and jobs. Corporate profits play into that too. But to my friends on the left, who I don't have many, I would not claim the economy is doing great and swimmingly wonderful when it isn't.

The issue is that we are getting no growth for 15 years. This didn't start with Biden. It started the financial crisis. We've been averaging about 1.5% real economic growth, which is less than half what we've averaged since World War II. It's unacceptable.

We're muddling by. We're not in a recession right now. We may go into one, but I think that we do not have the productivity as a nation that we're capable of. All right, so What are people doing? If they're not producing things, what are they doing and is it sustainable?

Well, that's a very good question because I am worried that factory construction is up 77% year over year. After you build a lot of new factories, you've got to get a lot of new equipment. And after you get a lot of new equipment, you've got to get more people to run it. I'm worried about the last part. Are we going to get the people to show up?

It's the biggest reason why I think this electric vehicle thing is a joke is there's no way they're going to get the people to go build them and manufacture the batteries. We don't have the labor force right now necessary to fix the economy. It's a cultural problem.

So everybody loves to sit around and look for whoever is president, Republican, Democrat, fix the world. We sort of deify the presidency. We deify the Federal Reserve. Oh, God, we should end the Federal Reserve.

Well, we should. I'm not wrong there. But before we end it, maybe we should just stop deifying it. Let's baby steps here. But yeah, I.

So don't DFY, audit, then end. Yeah, I don't think, by the way, the audit thing is going to bore a lot of people. My view on the Federal Reserve, because this is what people really want us to talk about. And you and I should talk about this. Um if the Federal Reserve just as functioned as a lender of last resort, a late 1800s style, what Bagot, an economist said, nobody would have a problem with the Fed.

You wouldn't and I know how you feel about the Fed. You wouldn't have a problem with the Fed if they were just a lender of last resort. But we asked them to go give everyone a job. We asked them to make sure that there was price stability. They haven't done either for 100 years.

So basically, the Fed is functioning now in the last 15 years off of a mandate that is even supercharged from there, run the whole economy. And it's not just a central bank. No, no, no. They're there to smooth out the business cycle. Where I believe people like you and I, who come from a very similar background in terms of our view of how society ought to be organized, we don't need a central bank to do that.

But I don't have a problem with a lender of last resort. And that's where some of my far libertarian friends don't fully agree with me. I was lucky enough to be part of an off-the-record media event with RFK Jr. And I asked him if he would like to end the Fed. Yeah.

But I can't tell you what he said because it was off the record. Yeah. Understood. But you have people who. They're still hurting.

And people who are working are working really hard. How do you make extra money when things are so much more expensive? Like, what are some practical side hustles? Oh, I think that we look, it's difficult because in technology, where you've had most of the layoffs, these are people that were overpaid and overhired and pampered. Definitely.

Well, they were infantilized. I mean, they were giving them video games and the cafeteria, these amenities that these people had in their offices that they don't even go to is stunning. But I think you're more talking about blue-collar workers, Rust Belt. I think it's going to take years to have a certain degree of onshoring and reshoring that takes place. But again, I want to be clear because I don't think politics is the messiah here.

Not all of this is bad policy. I mean, we have cultural issues we have to fix. FedEx and UPS and some of the companies that need to hire drivers, they can't hire enough people when they want to because they can't pass a drug test. I mean, you have things like that going on.

So we have cultural issues. It's a regulatory environment. And it also, I place a lot of blame, especially in like, I just visited Memphis. I did a podcast about this. I haven't seen it for.

Thirty years. Haven't spent any quality time there. I I've visited for a day or two, but I loved that city so much when I went in nineteen ninety three. And I want to love that city so much. But it is a city in a death loop.

And So I'm looking like, how do you make it better and who do you blame? Because it can't just be politics. It can't just be policy because there are other parts of the state that are absolutely thriving.

So then, you know, of course we blame the regulatory state. We blame government bureaucracy, but also unions.

Well, you and I were at the same event in Memphis, and I was there for the first time since the 90s as well. And my company opened an office in Nashville, not too far from Memphis, two years ago. And Nashville is maybe the fastest growing city in America. And it's absolutely, I had an office there in the 90s. I went back and I didn't think it was the same city.

It's cosmopolitan. There's a lot of energy. There's a ton of jobs. There's construction, blue-collar, white-collar. Nashville is thriving.

Memphis is not.

So, yeah, it can't be the same state. They're both in the same state. Can't be policies from the state. They're both in the same country. It can't be the federal government.

How do you explain some of it? I think there are different cultural phenomena. And also, we have to accept as free. Marketeers, markets are complicated. And this idea that sometimes you just simply change one policy and all of a sudden everything gets better right away, it doesn't work that way.

I think that there are a number of social and cultural things that are broken in Memphis. They'll take longer to fix. Nashville, right now, has got a positive feedback loop. And then when things go well for a city, they go really well because then more and more people move. I mean, half of Franklin, Tennessee is refugee Californians at this point.

Absolutely. I was looking at property in Franklin, Tennessee. The prices were no different than California. No, no. Like, if you're looking at something in like Calabasas or Thousand Oaks, it's really no different than Franklin.

Now, that's right. And similar, we used to call Scottsdale the Newport Beach of Phoenix. I live in Newport Beach, California. And the fact of the matter is, Scottsdale now is just as expensive as Orange County, California.

So these cities kind of catch up with their pricing. But then, just as a city can really get a positive feedback loop quickly, it can go the other way. You look at Seattle and San Francisco. I was looking. The home price data yesterday, year over year, home prices are down half of a percent.

It's kind of just flat on the year. And I want to make a comment on that in a second. But Seattle's down over 11%. San Francisco's down over 11%.

So, see, housing like weather is not a national thing. It it behaves differently in different places. Seattle was a hot place to live for a long time. No problem. No, I lived there in the 90s, moved there in 1997 and had a house there until 2002.

I loved it. On fire. Incredible quality of life. Quality of life, jobs, economic growth, vitality. All those things have reversed.

I can't even talk about Portland because it's so depressing. That's where I'm from. And again, Portland growing up. Was such a wonderfully kept secret from so much of the country. But people who would visit, especially in the summer, they could not believe a city like that existed on the river, a view of Mount Hood.

You know, traffic was moderate. You know, things seemed to function. There were businesses, there were eateries, there was technology, so much of that in one place. And the city just culturally exploded. And now it's supernova and it's turning into a black hole.

And they're not worried about it. They're willing to let it happen. They did not get killed. They committed suicide as a city in a lot of ways. I have clients.

That's a great description. I have clients that have been there 30 years, have moved everything out, so they're never ever going back. And you don't necessarily hear that in every place. I mean, look, New York, where I'm here half of the time, it's back to normal in a lot of ways, right? I mean, there's a lot of energy back on the streets.

In Portland, it's still dead. And I think that's large. Just a byproduct of what some of these social and cultural decisions that these cities have chosen. Yeah, so that's interesting because they haven't done in Memphis what they're doing in Portland. And there's what I saw in Memphis, especially reading about it afterward, there was a big disconnect between the entrepreneurs who want to develop the riverfront and build land bridges and things like that, and the very poor, underemployed, overincarcerated people who grew up and live there who feel they've been completely abandoned.

And I'd like to add, it's multiracial. Yes. And so this is not a problem just in black America, brown America. There's a significant white poverty problem in Memphis. And I do think that there are a lot of family, cultural, social issues and decisions that are at the root of a lot of that.

All right, so we have we still have quite a few areas to fix. I want to get into housing a little bit more. Can you stay for another segment? Providence. This is my name is Kennedy, and I'm filling in for Brian Kilmead on the Brian Kilmead Show, which you are listening to right now.

We will be back with David Bonson in moments. Learning something new every day on the Brian Killmead Show. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Kennedy in for Brian Kilmein.

Brian, as you know, very bravely in Ukraine for that. yearly barisma board meeting he likes to Attend. He gets a handsome salary. Not necessarily an energy expert, they just really like how. Having him around.

So, you know, hey, I will benefit from his travel and diligence. And David Bonson, the, I'm not going to call him an economist because that's too pretentious. No, he is the founder and managing partner. Of the Bonson group. And we're talking about the economy.

We're talking about the weirdness in different cities, the housing market, what's going well, what's not going well, whether or not we're going to have a soft landing. Is this fad? Is this president? Are they capable of shepherding the economy and creating economic growth?

Well nobody is capable Of stewarding the economy to a perfect soft landing. It isn't just that this Fed can or this president can't. I don't believe any human can because the economy is a complex, multivariate thing with, in our country, 330 million people that are all acting independently, different tastes, preferences, incentives, different supply, demand. This idea that we can centrally plan the economy and that if the Fed turns this knob here, turns this knob there, they can make it all perfect, it's just not the way economics works. And I don't say that in a partisan standpoint.

I don't want a Republican person to manage the economy either.

So, um, Look, this thing with housing is something I really have a hobbyist about. I wrote a book about the financial crisis. I believe that most of our narratives about that and housing crisis in 08 were really, really wrong. But when people say housing is weak, I think what they mean is that housing prices aren't going up 20% a year. What in the world makes people think that would be a good thing?

Because they've experienced that for so long. And I think that's why 2008 was such a shock to people, because especially for first-time homebuyers, they had no concept of what it meant to be underwater. You know, with these low interest mortgages, so they just assumed that they would have to pay nothing, show no documentation for it, and their asset would, you know, double or triple every 10 years. I think right now, a big part of the problem is boomers, not people that were buying houses they couldn't afford in 2007. I mean, the problem is always boomers.

Can we be honest here, fellow Gen Xer? Yes, the most underrated generation of Gen X agrees with you. But Housing is weak when there's no transactions and people and housing being basically kind of flat in pricing, that's not a good thing when only 20% of the transactions are happening. Why is that? Because nobody wants to sell that has a 3% mortgage and go buy a bigger and better home they can now afford.

They've kind of climbed the ladder a little, and they're going to have to trade a 3% mortgage for a 6% or 7% mortgage. They're not going to do that. I don't want to do that. Nobody does. By the way, of 92% of Americans that have a mortgage have it at less than 6%, and 64% of them have them at less than 4%.

Okay.

They're not going to do it. They're just going to sit still. But meanwhile, if you're a seller, are you anxious to give a price up that is 10, 20% lower than you knew your friends were getting a year ago?

So they're just going to sit still because everybody knows the Fed's going to end up cutting and stuff.

So we're now hearing that the Fed is going to raise interest rates a quarter point again this week. What effect will that have on this? Nebulous zone.

Well, the interest rate is going to go up a quarter point and it's been priced in for about a month. Mortgages are sitting around 7%. And what the Fed does in a few months will end up becoming more important. But I think that they're near the end. Housing at 7%, you're not going to get a lot of activity happening.

Now, look, everyone says, oh, back in the 70s, 80s, people were buying to 12%. That's not going to happen again. You can't get a lot of people. You can't get a society addicted to 2% to 3% money. And to reprice a monthly payment, which is all most Americans buy, is a monthly payment.

To get a 7% mortgage, your monthly payment relative to if it was 2% or 3%, the house has to come down 30% in value, at least 20%. And so basically, right now we're just a stalemate. There's no activity. What could actually make housing more affordable is more housing. And they don't build any new housing because of these.

Yeah. Zoning and environmental restrictions. Thank you for dumping your own swear word. It's impressive. It's for technology, yes.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't know. I would love for mortgage rates to go low. I would love for people to pay crazy amounts of money. And I would love to find a bargain. Yeah, but see, the thing is, Milton Freeman said this on the Donahue show in the 70s: that everyone says they hate inflation, and then you bring up their house and they all love inflation.

They all want their house price to go higher. Of course. I don't really know why people have no intention of selling their house care what it's worth. I think it's very odd. I own four homes, and I've never thought once about what any of them are worth.

I don't let anyone else in the house besides someone with my last name. And for the most part, it is just a place to live and enjoy different spots around the country that we are blessed to have. The notion of thinking about it in terms of what the value is doing, if you're not planning to sell, I don't understand. But what is changing it, you have a boomer is ruining the world.

Now, all of a sudden, their kids and grandkids can't afford to buy a home, and they're able-bodied and maybe gainfully employed. They've done okay. And they're like, Yeah, I can't afford to buy a house. Or they have to go buy into a neighborhood that grandpa and grandma. Don't want them in.

That is all of a sudden causing people to say this cult of permanently escalating housing prices is maybe not the genius we thought it was. I do blame boomers. I blame unions. And I blame the Fed. And you brought it all together, David Bonson.

Thank you, Kennedy. This has been tremendously uplifting and enlightening. Thank you so much. This is the Brian Kill Meet Show. I'm your friend, Kennedy.

A radio show like no other. It's Brian. Kill me. It is the Brian Kilmead Show. It's Kennedy in for Brian Kilmead.

And since it is Late July. It's time to get An update On your uh You're Favorite romance slaying duo. And that is hot cougar bitches. And you're like, oh, wait. What is hot cougar bitches?

Uh I am one half. My greater half. Happens to be Fox News legend Julie Banderis, who is taking time out of her busy. Fitness and beauty routine.

Okay.

And her mental meetings. I stopped drinking for this. Julie, welcome to the Brian Killmead Show. Oh, no. Can we rename it actually?

I mean, let's just hijack the show since we did come up with our own segment without him having any say.

So it's just it's just what it what are we called again? Hot cougar bitches? Hot cougar bitches. Brought to you by Nabisco.

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That's br we're brought wait, Nabisco is our sponsor? I didn't know we got a sponsor. They're so excited. We did. Yeah, we we got Nabisco, we got high C.

It was between High C and Tang, uh, but we went with high C 'cause the high highest C is Cougar. Right.

Well, we did we did approach Bud Light, but they weren't interested in us. We weren't their type.

So we're gonna. You're too successful and we are cratering. Therefore, we can't throw whatever remaining money we have at the at the HCB. We also have natural breasts.

Well, at least I do it in my freezer. Yeah, okay, great.

So we have natural uteruses. I don't know. Yeah, uteri. Yeah, a lot of people come up to me like, oh my gosh, Kennedy, succulent. Are they real?

And I'm like, yeah, you know what? Yeah, they are. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. Yeah, exactly. Same here.

Um, yeah, no, I think that's that's Peter's producer's gonna be very thrilled with our new segment slash show. Brian's gonna come back and he's gonna have no show and he's gonna have sponsors by like You know. different sponsors that he doesn't already have. No, it's in temperpedic mattresses. And um Oh yeah.

Soul Blow, Hi-C, Nabisco. We're just printing money here, Julie Banderas. And I said, there was, it's interesting, Julie, because obviously during the pandemic, we were all, especially in lockdown states like New York and California, not those free states like Utah and Florida, but we were the high school counselor, the short-order cook, the teacher, the principal, the disciplinarian to our children. And so for a lot of moms, that also went hand in hand with a concept known as rose all day.

Well, I love the New York Post. I'm a fan of the publication. It is the official publication of Hot Cougar Bitches. And. The Canada.

So but there was there was an article why it's time to change our mommy wine culture. Uh do you feel that this is the patriarchy shaming moms who are honest about what they consume? Absolutely. I mean, I don't know if you know my motto, but AA is for quitters. And I'm a mom and I don't quit.

My kids are still here. They were here through the pandemic, and they're not going anywhere anytime soon. I mean, by the time they get to college, then maybe I'll consider turning to another vice. But until then, I'm not giving up my wine. I will say this: I have dialed back my drinking since the pandemic.

Because pandemic, I was homeschooling and I had a pre-K student, a first grader, and a third grader.

So it was a nightmare. It was a nightmare.

So every single day, my daughter actually went to the refrigerator. I thought she was going to start drinking, but in fact, She would bring me a bottle of wine and just set it down in front of me. And every day that time got earlier and earlier. Like it started at two or three. By like month three, it was like 10 in the morning.

And let's just the pandemic lasted more than three months.

So by the time 2022 rolled around, Julie Banderas was on a propofol drip. Dr. Conrad Murray was on prison release because they were just letting people out. He went straight to her house. And it was the uh the Bandera speedball.

Yes, absolutely. That was amazing. Yeah, no, I mean, you don't need IV for like actual medication. There's a lot of different uses for intravenous fluids, you know? Like, I would get dehydrated.

I remember once I actually did end up in the hospital, though, for not drinking enough water. And I'm like, I don't need water. You know what I mean? Can't you do some kind of intravenous thing? No, because I tried a water cleanse.

You ever heard of those? No, that sounds weird. No, I know, but supposedly it shrinks your organs and it's like really good for you if you still there's scientists and doctors.

So do you only drink water or do you not drink any water at all? You drink, no, you only drink water. You do not drink many foods.

Well, it depends. Like I did it for five. But by day three I could hardly walk I sure did. But by day three, it was kind of like I wanted to do like a power cleanse because of all the alcohol I'd been drinking and weight I put on during the pandemic. I don't know about you, but I put on like 20 pounds.

I mean, I never looked better. I looked so good. I'm just kidding. No, it was awful. And it didn't matter what I did.

No, I tried. I had to do Noom, and that didn't work. I felt like Noom gave me an eating disorder. Yeah. Noon was popular by a lot of people, but no, I just did a lot of it.

It didn't work because you just became obsessed with what you ate. It's like, Is this a green food? Can I have more celery? I'm so hungry and mad at myself. Am I doing it right?

Yeah, that it's too much pressure.

So that's why liquid diets work best for me. Like, for example, during the pandemic, it was alcohol only. And then I decided to go with water only because I don't cook.

So it's like, you know, having to prepare foods is a pain in the ass.

So I'd rather just go with fluids. Yeah, but but Tito's in soda. You know, club soda is water, so technically you you are strictly adhering to your liquid diet. Yeah, no. When I when I have uh anything that's mixed with seltzer or club soda, that's hydrating for me.

So that's why I couldn't understand why the doctors, when I finally went in day five, they were like, You're dehydrated. I'm like, What? I've been drinking for months. I don't understand how this is possible. It's only been five days of water, but anyway, so they had to put me on uh IV fluids.

And I stayed off uh water for a while.

So, who knew that all the alcohol drinking would not be the thing that landed me in the hospital? It was too much water. That's interesting because that's a lesson for you. There's a term for that, isn't it? Isn't it like hyperhidrosis or something like that?

Yeah, they just told me I was dehydrated. They didn't use such a fancy word. I wonder if you just, I think what happens is if you only drink water and no salt, you wash the electrolytes out of your blood. And yeah, you can get really, really sick.

So I am not endorsing or co-signing the water diet unless they like to have like some chicken broth or vegetable broth and all that. But by day five, once I started having it, it was too late. I was too dehydrated.

So yeah. But do Google it. If you're listening or Kennedy, just Google a water cleanse. I'm telling you, the benefits are amazing. I just didn't do it right.

I'm like all the time. I did, I did, I did. It's just that I didn't include include sodium. You're right. Like I didn't do I didn't do any kind of sodium whatsoever.

I went from drinking nothing but wine to water. And my body was like, What the hell are you doing?

So I went straight back to wine right after that.

So, Julia, let me ask you this because, you know, we're we're cougars about town. We're always surveying the landscape. Yeah, absolutely right. We we know what's going on. You just aged us so badly just by saying the word about down.

But cool. That's correct. You know, we're we're in top hands, uh, top hats and garter belts. That's a it's a great look.

So if you look at the if you look at the presidential candidates, uh, and you can include Nikki Haley in there.

Okay.

Who who is the most and let's pretend all of them are single. Who is who are the top three most datable presidential candidates for you? If they were single, I have to say that I would like Juan DeSantis. Where where did he go to college? Didn't he go to the Naval Academy?

Yeah, but I thought he maybe went to Yale or Yeah, he does seem like an Ivy League or like a secret Ivy Leaguer. Like maybe he's got a little bit of hillbilly, but uh he he he he got polished at the Fancy Ladd Academy. Yeah, he went to Harvard, by the way. I knew it. He went to Yale and Harvard.

He went to Harvard and Yale. Yeah, see, that's a turn on to me. Like Ivy Leaguers, I never dated one.

Well, actually, yeah, no. No, I never dated one, but that was always my dream.

So I'd go for Ron DeSantis. I also discovered recently his age, which makes me feel like shit because, can I say that? Actually, no, you can't. But thank you for asking after the fact. That was very conscientious, Julie.

I'm sorry, everyone in the control room. I apologize. And we're on the air. Welcome back to the Brian Killing Show. Wait, so in all seriousness, do you know how old he is?

46. He's 44. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, but seriously. Seriously, he's 44.

What the hell? I mean, first of all, that not only makes me feel so old, but like, imagine running for president at the age of 44. That's impressive.

So I'm very impressed by him. He's an overachiever. I like that. He also oh, one other thing I really like about him, he has a full head of hair. I don't know.

It's the little things of the cougar these days that you really appreciate when any man exudes signs of youth, you know, like hair. No, but I I have to say, I like the shaved head look. Like when when you just go for it and you shave the whole thing, like, yeah, screw it. Wait, because you're balding, you're you're fake. That's fine.

I I would much rather see that than um than a mullet ponytail on a bald guy. With like specks of hair in the front. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree.

If you're gonna go that thin, you might as well just shave it all off. I won't date you, but I respect that. I just really like hair. you know in the right places of course So the vaik Ramaswamy is your second because he's also got a great head of hair. He does have a good head of hair, but not I mean, dating wise, not so much my type.

So I would judge him scar that. Yeah, go ahead. Let's talk about if we were into women. Not that I am, but if I was. I do like Nikki Haley.

I no, I actually like like Nikki Haley as a presidential candidate. I wouldn't want to get with her or anything, but I like Nikki Haley. You want to use her for her power, but you don't want it to get so awkward that you can't call and ask her for a favor. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

And she's smart. You know, it's nice to have a smart woman running for office. It would be, you know, it'd be if she doesn't become the presidential ticket, you know, a vice presidential. You know, everybody was saying, Ron, not to put the woman on the VP spot because she has, she's. Just as qualified to be the president.

Well, so is Tim Scott, so is Vivek, but they're going to be VP candidates, probably. No, but I have to say, Aron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, I've been saying this for two years, three years now. I could see that as a powerful ticket. Anything but Kamala Harris.

So actually I should run. ABJ, Kamala. I I don't disagree with you there. I I think I'm not a woman hater. I don't hate on women.

I always like to empower women and but Kamala Harris is seriously one of the dumbest women I've ever seen in politics. And it's just, it's miraculous that she's still even, that she hasn't been pulled off the job. And the fact that Joe Biden thinks that by bringing her back in, that's gonna help his chances. She's like she's She's like his kryptonite. He needs to run away from her.

I don't know who else to grab, but not her. Yeah, and definitely yeah.

Well, so if you had to choose a life partner, Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris, who would you choose? Oh, a life partner? I'd go with anybody, Kamala. Could you imagine waking up to that laugh? Or like at night drinking and listening to that laugh?

Because you know she probably is one of those drinkers that laughs her head off whenever she drinks.

So no, I'll go with an Elizabeth Warren. I don't mind. I'll j I'll join a native Indian tribe for her. And that's the exact kind of political correctness we desire from Julie Banderas. Thank you for taking the time on Hawk Cougar Bitches Island.

I love you. I love you. I didn't get voted off. Never. No, you didn't.

Not yet. You're the chieftress. No, no, you're the chief. And I'm just your sidekick. All right.

Well, you can ride my sidecar anytime. Julie Banderas. Hi, Doria. I love you. I'll see you soon.

Love you.

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Okay, this is a much bigger radio show than mine. I speak a lot more freely on my show because it has about a tenth of the audience of Killmeads. I'll tell you anything on my show. If you guys want to tune into Fox Across America from noon to three, you know, if radio shows are boats, okay, Killmead is like a Viking cruise ship. I'm the inflatable raft from Captain Phillips.

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So here's the thing: I did have a lot of run-ins in court and beat. As a cab driver, I beat a lot of tickets, a lot of traffic tickets, a lot of parking tickets.

So maybe he would take some advice from me. But what's very interesting about this, I think anyway, at a street level of analysis, Is the fact that his attorneys pulled a little chicanery last night, made like a blank call? Yeah, like, oh, hi. We're calling from the judge. And the judge said, you have to take your thing down.

You're like, oh, God, the judge is calling. This is official. This is one of the branches of government that's not us. Take it down right now, guys. What's next?

Are they going to send their kids in there stacked on top of each other in a trench coat to look like an adult? Like it's a cartoon? There's four children, and one of them is wearing glasses and a hat at the top of this pile. Come on, Biden legal team, a scam. But you know what?

Up until now, you've seen the actions of somebody who knew the fix was in.

Now they're a little concerned. I mean, you don't start making prank phone calls because you think we're on autopilot the rest of the way. That's a weird Hail Mary. I hope the judge takes the plea deal away. I think we've learned too much just in the last couple of weeks about what was really going on and not only the happening, but the intention behind it.

One and two, the two biggest problems facing our country right now is we have no collective buy-in to the integrity of anything. The last two parties to lose a major presidential election claimed it was stolen. You can call what Trump did the big lie, but How do you differentiate that from what the Democrats did? Henry did the exact same thing. And by the way, the Biden team was prepared with an army of lawyers to contest the election results if they, in fact, lost.

Yes. So it would really benefit America if we had an investigation, legitimately, into election integrity, just the same as an investigation into the Bidens at this point. If, in fact, it cleared them, so be it. That would be a win for all of us. Did Democrats ever have an issue with electronic voting?

Oh, we do play a montage on my show. It's a minute and 50 seconds long. It ends with Kamala Harris saying the election machines were so hackable, she held a demonstration for her team just to show them how easy it was. Like, come on, dude. But that's the double standard of living at.

She was Sidney Powell before Kamala was released in Kraken. Sydney was just the throwback Thursday Kamala. When you really boil it down. Where where the hell do we go from here? I mean, where do we go with the Bidens?

Like, the Hunter problem doesn't go away. Guys like that and Jimmy, you've known some dirtbags. Oh. They don't they they they may follow the rules, they may put on a suit, they may be polite for a moment, but they cannot the appetites outweigh The decency. Yeah, there's no question there.

These are these are problematic people. The other issue is, too, uh, the Republicans with the power of impeachment and the majority in the House aren't going to let it go away and they shouldn't let it go away. But back to your point of knowing dirtbags. Yes, I do. And I'm even willing to hang out with them when they're guest hosting the Brian Kilmead Show.

That's the nice thing about me. It's not like I know Derping. I shun them. Like, I embrace them. I am the Garth Brooks of cable news.

I have friends in low places.

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When Brianna returns. Kennedy in for Brian. Is The deep state protecting Hunter Biden from accountability. And is whatever you conceive of the deep state actually running the country? It is a completely fair idea.

Uh what used to be the stuff of conspiracy theory has Realized in so many stories in so many ways that it is impossible to turn away from the idea that there are People who've been working in the government for a long time, who have amassed a lot of power, who realize that administrations, elected bureaucrats come and go, but there is a collection of them who, it seems, have the real power to prosecute or shield whomever they want to stay in power. Is that what we are seeing with Hunter Biden? The laptop story the government and various agencies working with big tech in order to silence that story and anyone who tried to disseminate it. And we were They're deep staters. in the higher reaches of government who were pulling the strings and getting institutions like the IRS and the FBI to do their bidding and to have influence over outcomes.

So the stories about Hunter uh didn't Tank the administration. That is very possible. And uh there's a new article from Eli Lake, who happens to be a contributing editor at Commentary Magazine. He's also a columnist for the New York Sun. He hosts the Re-education Podcast.

And he has a free press article right now: Hunter Biden and the deep state. Eli Lake, welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show. Hey, thanks so much for having me, Kennedy. It's great to be here. Great to talk to you.

We haven't spoken in some time, but I thought you wrote a really wonderful article because a term like deep state, it is very easy, as you point out, to apply any meaning to that you want. Is that an accurate description of the players and the system who are really running government? And if not, how would you describe it?

Well, you know We in America have probably to go back to understand what an American deep state is, you have to go back about 50 years to the church committee, who was a. Very brave senator who managed to hold a series of hearings and produce. A final report that exposed a series of programs from the FBI, the CIA. the National Security Agency and elements of the military. Which were State secrets at the time, this is pre-1975.

But there was zero oversight. Members of Congress, and in some cases, even the elected president didn't know, for example, that the CIA was opening mail from the Soviet bloc, which was a federal crime, but they were doing it and there was no authorization really for them to do it. Or the classic would be something known as MKUltra, which was the CIA series of. mind control experiments involving LSD. That really happened, and it's unclear that anybody in the White House at the time.

Knew about it or knew the full extent of it and how they were testing on human subjects.

So that's the history of the concept of the United States. When you apply the concept of deep state, say, overseas, what you're referring to is a government like Turkey, which nominally has an elected you know leader and a parliament, but the real power is the unelected military or Pakistan or Egypt or countries like that.

So it is where you have a more powerful state that is sort of in the shadows, a deeper state, if you will.

Now, does America have a deep state? It's not the same as you would say to something like Turkey, because there are moments. such as the church committee, but you can think of more recent moments like when the Senate Intelligence Committee published reports on CIA in black site interrogations and so forth, where there are kind of, we could call it spasms of accountability. And there have also been reforms, such as the creation of a surveillance court so that you would no longer have lawless surveillance of American citizens.

So that brings us up to today. And I think The term deep state is not great because it implies Almost a kind of hive mind, like there is a kind of singular agenda of interlocking powerful institutions.

Sometimes people include the media in it and things like that. And I would say that the reason that, that's not right is because like any institution, the secret element of our government is comprised of human beings. There are good human beings. There are good people and bad people. There are rule followers and rule breakers.

And what we've seen is that because of whistleblowers, In the case of the Hunter Biden Um what I call like scandalabra because there's so many elements. And that, by the way, is such a wonderful portmanteau. Scandalabra it's it's such a great term. Um anyone who reads that wishes they had thought of it uh thought of it themselves. Oh, thank you, Kennedy.

That's very nice. But but I guess what I'd say is that we have these whistleblowers from the IRS. We have FBI whistleblowers. We have inspectors general, people like Michael Horowitz of the Justice Department, or more recently, John Dorham. Who was a special counsel and his career was spent as a US attorney?

Well, these people would be in a certain sense members of this deep state, but yet they understood that they had an obligation to call out what they saw was improper behavior, in some cases behavior that was violating the law, or favoritism in the case of the IRS investigation. And now Congress is aware of it. And they're you know, we'll see what happens, but you have at least Republicans in that Affirmative. Looking to try to hold these institutions and the individuals accountable, up to and including the Attorney General Merrick Garland, who. has contradicted the um you know what i would say is the confirmed Story of these whistleblowers from the IRS.

So I don't like to use the term sometimes deep state because it implies. Almost like your black pill. There's nothing you can do. The deep state is so powerful, they'll get what they want. But that's not true.

It is worth fighting. It is worth electing people that will hold these institutions accountable. There are whistleblowers who are doing the right thing at great personal risk. And so that makes it a lot more complicated. I do think it's absolutely fair, though, to say that there is An element of the United States government that has become extremely powerful, that operates with very little oversight, and is capable.

Of really pulling the wool over the American people's eyes. And we saw this with this Hunter Biden laptop, the FBI knew. The laptop was real and yet allowed for social media companies. To believe that the stories in the New York Post before the 2020 election were part of some sort of Russian disinformation plan.

Well that's Absolutely atrocious. And I'm upset that it's taken this long for the real truth to get out. But at least the truth is getting out. And if we had a kind of all-powerful deep state, we would never really know with just the sort of chicanery and deceptions of the FBI in the run-up to the 2020 election. And the FBI did know.

And they were asked pointedly whether or not they knew the laptop was real before the election. One FBI agent started to say, yeah, we do. And the other said, no comments. And then you write about it. And then they huddled and they said, from now on, when we're asked if we know the laptop is real, the answer is no comment.

I mean, that's amazing, right? Yes, it's a way of shielding themselves from this very obvious guilt because they were working in concert with Twitter and. Obviously, other tech companies, we only know about what was happening at Twitter and the involvement because of the Twitter files. But you have and that's only part of it. But when you marry that with RussiGate, what are you left with?

What do you get? What impression can you take away from elements of this government?

Well, here's one takeaway. In twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, after Donald Trump wins the election, There was a calculation that was made by lots and lots of people in the media, in the permanent government, you could say maybe the administrative state. That The the prospect of of Trump's presidency was such a grave threat to our country. That It justified doing things and taking steps that they would never normally have taken. And that is, I think, how we saw the beginnings of these kinds of abuses.

The FBI, I think. if this had been a normal kind of election or something and a Republican had won, And the Republicans opponent had paid for opposition research that Tried to paint that person as a pawn of the Russians, it would have been seen as for what it was. That's kind of dirty politics. But it would not have become part of The official narrative that the mainstream media treating it like it was Watergate. More importantly, you wouldn't have had the FBI pretending as James Comey did in twenty seventeen and His deputy Andrew McCabe did later, that this was an open question as to whether or not the president.

Was a Russian agent when not only did they have no evidence that he was, they were turning up no evidence that he was that there was anything to this. But they have plenty of evidence that The steel dossier that this was sort of originally sort of put out and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign. was itself disinformation.

So You know that Calculations, and we'll probably never know exactly why Comey decided to pretend as if this was all very legitimate. All of that I think it can be explained by this view that they were so scared of Trump they were willing to do things like lie to the American people. and hold a duly elected president in kind of you know constant state of contempt, or not even contempt, but like suspicion. that he may in fact be this traitor. based purely on like a dirty political trick, that is a terrible thing that happened.

But it didn't come out of nowhere. It came out of, I think, because people Kind of panicked and they were frightened. And this is almost an example of you could. kind of look at it psychologically. Of an extreme anxiety that was brought about by the election of a candidate they thought they had no chance of winning.

And a candidate they couldn't control. And I guess that's what's so attractive about this for limited government libertarians like me is I may not agree with most people who are elected president for one reason or another. But there are takeaways from the Trump presidency that I would like to see replicated. And that is, I would like to see more people run and more people from either party secure the nomination that make that national security state nervous. These people who are so unorthodox, who are willing to.

take government apart and look at it in a very different way, who are not controllable. I would like to see people like that challenge government from within. Because you have so many Unelected, powerful people who only keep amassing more and more power. And when you look at the way law enforcement agencies interface today, unchecked, unconstitutionally, you realize that we have to make changes, but Congress is not making changes. They complain about it.

They grandstand about it. But when it comes time to make meaningful reforms to The FBI. Yeah, they they they they reauthorize the the the FISA Act, which you know gives us mass surveillance a lot of time. You're there's a lot of truth to that, Kennedy. I think you're into something.

I would say this though. In some ways, it's already had an effect. I mean, I would say that before Donald Trump and before the era of politics that we're in, If there was a story that the FBI and we saw this at the beginning of Trump presidency when it still was really important, the FBI is investigating a politician because they may or may not be you know, connected or have colluded or conspired with a foreign power. That would be a career killer. That would be a huge bombshell.

I think that there are so millions of Americans now that if they read a story about something that the FBI is investigating, they are no longer going to assume that, that investigation is on the level. That's the FBI's own damn fault. That's James Comey's fault. That's Andrew McCain's fault. They were the ones who squandered their legitimacy with at least half the country.

And that itself is a real problem if you believe as I do that We need an FBI to do certain things that, you know, to protect us from, you know, foreign spies or. you know, organized crime and things like that. And it needs to be, you know, needs to have legitimacy. And so it's a crisis in a sense if you're like myself. I believe that, like you, like many libertarians, that the national security state is probably too big at this point and that the war on terror expanded it in ways that we need to kind of pair back, but I am not.

a radical. I don't think that we should live in a world without an FBI, for example, because I think that we do have crime, we do have spies, we do have all these problems. And then the Bureau needs to be above law, I mean above partisanship. It cannot be seen as a tool of one particular party, which unfortunately is what it is today or is seen that way today. And you know, my other worry is it's very interesting because COVID has kind of disappeared.

You know, we talk about the fallout from it, but we don't talk about the virus anymore. And now, you know, things that we are told were conspiracy theories are now actually real, appear to be very real, and materializing more and more the evidence for something like the lab leak every day. I almost look at the apparatus that we don't fully understand that was created during the pandemic being as harmful long term as the apparatus that was built during the war on terror. The public health issue is huge. They have also suffered a kind of legitimacy crisis for many of the same reasons.

And replace Trump in this case with COVID. The emergency was such that it justified things that they would never do. And Fauci is somebody who. Believes in a concept that's been around since Plato called the noble lie, which is that it's Tolerable to tell a free country like America or Americans things that you know not to be true because. If they knew the truth, it would be worse, and that there are certain things and they couldn't possibly understand the full implications of it.

You know, that is a, I think that's a huge, that is going to affect Anthony Fauci's at the end of his life, but he's like, it's going to affect his legacy. And it's important that we kind of always remember that these norms exist for a reason. And they are more important than ever when we are in these kinds of crisis or emergency. And I think that we have to rebuild trust in the public health as well because they've squandered a lot of it. Eli Lake, it is so wonderful to talk to you.

I love the way you write. I love the way you think. Thank you for taking time on the Brian Kilmead Show.

Well, thanks for having me, Kennedy. Indeed, we've got much more to come, including Hunter's Fate. It's next. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Someone was upset on Twitter because I said that Brian Killmead is transitioning, and next week he's coming back as Brianna. I'm sorry. He's coming back as Jocelyn. That's totally different. It is the Brian Kilming Chow.

I'm Kennedy, and for Brian. And uh We were just talking about the deep state and how real it is. Laptop, Hunter Biden, laptop. Shielding plus Russia Gate hoax equals deep state. I don't care who you are.

You're lying if you don't admit it.

So someone. Has to capitalize on the deep state phenomenon in order to win back the presidency. Listen to part of this latest political ad. From Donald J. Trump.

I would make everyone an example why you should never question a Democrat. ever winning it. election. I would imprison my foes. I would use my corrupt DAs and blackmail Judges to destroy you.

I would make sure all crimes I ever committed never happened. I would prosecute my biggest competition. I would make sure they could never run for office ever again. If I was the deep state, I would convince everyone that Ukraine Nazis were good and women are men. If I was the deep state, I would own every politician that mattered.

Oh, that is fantastic. This presidential cycle, every turn, is an absolute gift. Thank you, politics gods. We return with the Hunter Biden update. Where is he?

Is he in shackles? Every moment of it next. Right here on the Brian Kilmead show, Kennedy and for Kilmead. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

It is the Brian Kilmead show. Kennedy in for Kilmead. We have a. It is Hunter Biden. Please watch.

Will the judge throw it out because of the shenanigans? That have been going on over the last 24 hours. Joining me now, he's been reporting on this very Ably. And he's an award-winning journalist from the New York Post. John Levine, welcome back to the Brian Kilmut Show.

Thank you, Reggie. having me Kennedy. Always fun, always fun.

So exciting times. It's kind of scary how much. Hunter Biden has amassed, but also how his dad has been so good about keeping Sonny Boy away from any real trouble, even though he may have been. running afoul of laws and regulations for quite some time. All right, I'm reminded of that Mel Brooks line: it's good to be the king.

You know, when your dad is the king, you know, you can you can you can get out of a lot of stuff. And maybe leave some of your unmentionables in the West Wing, and they can never figure out who brought them.

So, where are we at in terms of where Hunter is at?

Well Look, he's going to submit his plea today. That's literally happening as we speak. And What I'm told is that whether the judge accepts it or not, it's mostly a formality. Generally, the judges accept the plea deals that are negotiated. I'm told by people who know more about this than me that there's not a lot of leeway for this judge, even though the judge, just what I'm seeing here, seems very disinclined.

to be sympathetic to Hunter's defense lawyers. I don't know that she has a lot of leeway, and I think that This plea is probably going to get accepted. And he's gonna he's gonna skirt. He'll fly by with just two misdemeanours. for you know a conclusion of the six-year probe.

And even with all we've seen from the whistleblowers, And all the evidence that has come out that this case was compromised. It looks like he's just gonna fly off into the sunset.

Well, he is mister Misdemeanor, but First of all, the cocaine in the White House was never solved. I don't believe there aren't cameras there. I don't believe that we don't have the detection capability to figure out who brought a white powdery substance into the White House. I mean, what if that were anthrax or something else? Right.

If this was anthrax in a little baggie in the West Wing, I have a hard time thinking the Secret Service would just, well, nothing we can do here, folks. It's unknowable. I have a question for you. Did this bag have fingerprints? Or did it just appear there?

Did it have, was there DNA? Was Hunter Biden tested? Was he tested? They refuse to answer any of those questions. And I always tell people: it's like, I am not Sherlock Holmes.

I'm not. You know, I'm not monk, if you ever watch that show. No, he has Tony Shalou, great show. But like let's just zoom out a little bit. Cocaine is found in the White House.

During a period where a known past user, drug abuser of cocaine is staying at the White House. Maybe we should ask that person. And maybe that, you know, that's like maybe that person is the prime suspect here. I don't know. But like if it walks like a duck And it quacks like a duck.

It's a duck. You know, as the saying goes. I hate to engage in whataboutism, but I can only imagine if this happened during the the Trump White House, what the uproar from the press corps might have been. And there there would probably be a federal indictment looming for Don Jr. There would be a special counsel for the Koch right now.

I mean, you don't even need to finish that sentence. I mean, if this were Trump, it's just the end of the sentence, because we know it would be World War III. Maybe Putin brought the cocaine and left it there as part of the. It's part of the steel dossier compromising material. Who knows?

Who knows what fantasy madness? But of course that never happened because Known cocaine addicts didn't stay at the White House.

Okay, and now Trump was president. Here's something else that I want to discuss, and that was whether or not. It's important if the president lied about being in business with his son. Let's listen to cut number two. Chairman James Comer today says that the oversight.

The committee has evidence that the president in the past communicated directly with foreign business associates of his son Hunter Biden many times. I'm curious if the White House and the President still stand behind his comment that he's never been involved and has never even spoken to his son about his.

So I've been asked this question a million times. The answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same. The president was never in business with his son. I just don't have anything else to add.

Okay, but the answer did change because Joe Biden was never adamant saying, I was never in business with my son. He has said, I never spoke to my son about his foreign business dealings. Period. Those are two very different things. And, you know, she says, I've answered this a million times.

The answer remains the same. That is not the same answer. They're changing the goalposts in real time because that wasn't, as you say, what she has always said. And who knows what she'll be saying in six months? Maybe it'll be my answer remains the same.

Joe Biden did not accept tens of millions of dollars from Hunters' businesses. You know, who knows what the same answer will be in six months? The gradual shifting of goalposts. Look. Whether this is a problem or not ultimately depends on the American people, whether they think it's a problem.

It's not a crime, obviously, to lie to the press. And to lie to the American people, or a lot of politicians would be in jail. But this is a character issue. And when he runs for reelection, if that's actually happening, he's going to have to explain to the American people why he was dishonest about this. And he will be confronted by his own words on the campaign trail.

And maybe, you know, a reporter or two will ask about it. And he's going to have to sort of square the circle and say, why did you, you know, explain why, how he could say he wasn't involved when you've got business partners now saying he would dial into phone conversations, you know, a dozen or two times. Is that problematic for him? You know, if Devin Archer testifies before the House Oversight Committee that he saw in two dozen instances, Hunter put the phone on the table, put it on speaker, access his dad to talk to people they were in the middle of making deals with. Is that problematic for the president?

Is there plausible deniability there for him to say, oh, I was just saying hi to my son. I had no idea who he was with.

Well right. I mean, it really depends on what Devin Archer Is he the big wild card here? Yes, I mean, it's certainly the most important witness to come forward in so far in the history of this probe. I mean, you had Tony Bobolinski before the campaign, but this is someone who in many ways was much closer to the action at hand. Archer was a member of the board of Barisma alongside Hunter Biden.

And he would be intimately knowledgeable about what went on with Hunter and that company, and potentially Joe Biden and that company. And something I'd be curious about is what Archer can say about that FBI document. Remember that from the Confidential Human Source, which talks about how the head of Barissima has all these compromising tapes, recordings of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, which he said he's just keeping in his pocket for a rainy day. That's. you know, lovely.

That's you know to think some some Ukrainian oligarch has this compromising material, allegedly.

So I would certainly want to know that from Archer. And that's stuff that he could hopefully put some meat on the bones to.

So Devin Archer has been in legal trouble himself for that sixty million dollar uh bond scheme where he defrauded um Indian tribes out of That much money.

So, if he comes clean and his friends say, sources say that he has no agenda here, he has no axe to grind. He doesn't seek revenge on anyone. He's just being a good citizen. But is there some benefit for him to be completely truthful? Does that help him out of any of his legal issues?

Well, that's an underdeveloped, that's an under-reported part of this saga: is that the second after he testifies, he's supposed to get marched off to prison. because he defrauded these Native American tribes. I don't think the time for leaning. I think he's done. I think he's exhausted his appeals.

He's definitely getting locked up. But. You know, there's I I I've heard rumors that he's trying to get a less You know, onerous prison or to get a more comfortable confinement. But yeah, absolutely. There's certainly a universe where he could try to parlay his cooperation with this committee into some more lenient treatment.

I don't know. And I couldn't say what he's thinking. But yeah, he'll be he'll be marched off to prison shortly, I think for sure after this hearing. That's wild. And and will he do about a year in federal prison?

I mean, that's what he's been sentenced to. We'll see we'll see what actually happens, but Yeah. I wonder if if the President uh or Mara Garland will intervene and sort of soften the blow for him somehow if it means He's already put off the House Oversight Committee three times.

Well, that's what I'm wondering. And that's, you know, he's got this hearing allegedly on Monday. I wonder if they'll be if they'll suddenly pull out. And then all of a sudden it's It's your prison sentence is now going to be home confinement. Who knows?

Hopefully, that doesn't happen. I think what's great now is The media is watching this all very, very closely.

So it would be very hard to do that in a way that didn't invite a lot of public scrutiny. But anything's possible. And we've seen so much already that nothing would really shock me at this point. No, and and there have been publications, you know, the The Washington Post, the New York Times. Who have started to turn in terms of these stories and, um, The unacknowledged seventh grandchild of the president, and they're starting to take issue with this.

So I think you're absolutely right. And they are paying attention. They are watching all of this.

So at what point do they actually use this ammunition? To take aim at the president and to keep him from running for reelection. What happens in your estimation? It has been interesting to see the, I hate this term, but the mainstream media.

Sort of Slowly recognize that there is a there there. Obviously, you alluded to the New York Times, which I believe it was Maureen Dowd wrote a great piece. Saying, you know, it's outrageous that President Biden doesn't acknowledge his own grandchild when so much of his personal brand is about his family. And like, family's the most important thing. Family is everything, John Levine.

Family is everything. Exactly, exactly. And I would point you also to the article the other day in Business Insider, an incredible scoop where they managed to figure out one of the buyers for Hunter Biden's art, which, surprise, surprise, is a major Democratic donor. Stop it right now, who also has phenomenal taste in art. Right, right, exactly.

And then an incredible one: another buyer bought 11 pieces for $875,000 total, and we don't know who that person is. But let me tell you. I'd be very curious given what we already know, but that was broken by Business Insider, a publication that didn't previously have much interest in this story.

So it's very and I, you know, I welcome the competition from my colleagues at other outlets. It's been lonely. Are you frankly are you fank frankly surprised given the facts that you have and the way things have unfolded, um, the lack of reporting?

Well, I mean Surprised is a big word. I I don't get surprised by by the The inattention of certain members of the press towards the Democratic Party, because that's a very, very old story. But it's always disheartening when like The evidence becomes so overwhelming, as it has been. And this business about Joe Biden being involved in his son's overseas business dealing, we've known this for years. I mean, it's great that Devin Archer is coming forward and he's going to talk about phone calls.

We've known this for years. Hunter, I reported, I think, over a year ago when Joe Biden met with business partners in the White House when he was vice president. That's a fact. That was reported, that was done. We have known that Hunter Biden's business partners have handled Joe Biden's personal tax returns.

and like had access to his finances. We this is this we knew this years ago.

So we're getting more evidence to prove something we already knew.

So it's great. But it's very quaint for me. It's great, but it's late. Let's listen to a report from Griff Jenkins, who is outside the Hunter Watch courtroom. Judge Norieke asked the prosecution if there was an ongoing existing separate investigation into Hunter Biden right now.

The prosecutor is saying yes. And what is holding this deal up, and they're in recess now because the defense asked for some time, so the judge granted, what's up in the air is whether or not Judge Norieke will even accept this deal because this deal would possibly give Hunter some immunity to future charges, and she's not okay with that. That is why this is taking so very long. Does that surprise you, John Levin? Look.

I am not a lawyer.

So I reached out to Jonathan Turley. I'm putting this on him. I asked him. is what's the probability of her rejecting this plea? And he said she didn't have a lot of room to maneuver.

So I he's you know, he's to me a gold standard person, and that's what he told me when I asked him. And That was my view. But this is like I believe Griff Jenkins just said there's an active prosecution or the prosecution said there is an active investigation.

So you know, that that potentially changes things. And I don't I don't. We'd be in a real no man's land if this plea was rejected, but it would be. Certainly, given the overwhelming amount of evidence that this case was compromised. I I d I mean, that it certainly would be the only ethical thing to do, I feel.

In this circumstance.

Well, I feel you're absolutely right. I'm going to continue following your reporting at the official newspaper of the SS Canadalia. That is the New York Post. John Levine, a phenomenal reporter, writing the truth and spitting out lyrics. Homie, he's with you.

Jonathan, thank you so much. All right.

Thank you. That is John Levine. I am Kennedy, and for Brian, Killmead, more on the other side. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis, because Mandy, you need to know. It's Brian Kilmead.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. Is it really the dog's day-to-day pressure cooker lifestyle that's leading him to bite? Listen, a younger, less experienced comedian would make a joke about like a dog having erratic behavior could be associated with a dog coming into contact with some cocaine. But I personally am not going to make that joke.

I wish he would. Absolutely. I think that that is a joke that certainly should be made. If you've got these two hopped-up German shepherds that can't help themselves and are biting people indiscriminately and they're going after federal law enforcement, they're basically the Hunter Bidens of the canine world. And they're worried about their freedom, man.

So if you find the cocaine in the attic or in the library or in the West Wing entryway cubbies, you don't even know where you found the cocaine. But you know that cocaine is sprinkled throughout the White House like Jimmy's in a cupcake bakery. It it it could be all over the place. And these dogs are German shepherds. They're bred to find the drugs.

These dogs are also German shepherds that are really close to Hunter Biden and they have developed appetites for things that Can ultimately do them harm. And it's not the dogs' faults. It's not them. It's not major. It's not champ or commander, whatever the hell their names are.

It is the owners. They are so incompetent, they can't run the country, let alone properly trained dogs. It is inhumane. They have to look at themselves and realize two things. One, maybe we're not dog people.

Number two, maybe we're too incompetent to run a country.

So, the only thing for Joe Biden to do is give up the dogs, give up the ghost, give up the presidency, and let us hump other people's legs in peace. It has been an absolute pleasure filling in for my friend Brian Kilmead here on the Brian Kilmead show. You can listen to my podcast, Kennedy Saves the World, Spotify, Apple, FoxNewsPodcast.com. Listen to the show at free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hmm.