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And the man who never seems to go away, James Comey, now revealing his plans. And a lot of it is to say, hold on tight. Because twenty twenty eight is only a couple years away. as he predicts what a future presidency may hold. We're going to get into that and so much more again on today's show.
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Again, that is at aclj.org or on YouTube where I am right now. Looking at all the comments coming in, let me know if you're in, what you're watching from. Will Haynes is joining us right now, and of course. Again, we're talking about James Comey as he makes his plan and says it's time. We're also going to move a little bit and talk throughout the show.
About some of the stuff happening on the world stage, whether it happened in China, whether what's going on in Iran. Again, the clock is ticking, President Trump said, in terms of the ceasefire.
So we're going to get into all that. But let's kick it off, as we said, with a little conversation. Will that happen with James Comey over the weekend? That's right. James Comey was on Meet the Press.
As you said, he never seems to go away. He's trying to get as much attention as possible. This is the indicted James Comey for that Instagram post that said 8647, that was taken as a threat against the President of the United States. But here's what he had to say. And when you have the whole context of who James Comey is and everything he did as the FBI director, it's a little unsettling when you hear this.
And this is just yesterday on Meet the Press. Let's play bite four. If you're bragging about forcing out career prosecutors and agents because the President doesn't like a lawful investigation they conducted, something is seriously broken at the top. But I have great confidence in the people down below who are just trying to hang on. And I'm urging them, hang on two and a half years, and then we can rebuild these institutions.
But we need good people in those roles. America does. Once again, he says, hold on. I'm urging them. Two and a half years, and then we can rebuild these institutions.
We're going to get into some of the history of that, what the FBI under James Comey looked like, and what he wants to rebuild to. Because I have a feeling most of you watching this aren't looking for a return of the Comey-era FBI and the shenanigans that we saw that came out of the FBI under his leadership. But I mean, just hearing that, he also uses the term we. can rebuild it. What is he looking for?
What is he angling for with that? We'll get into some of that discussion and hypothesizing in the next segment as well. But join us and call us. What do you think he meant by we can rebuild the FBI? 1-800-684-3-110.
James Coleman is only 65 years old. He could have a big future in front of him if he wanted. Are the American people ready for maybe a rebuilt FBI by James Comey, maybe a CIA, or maybe. Just saying a Presidential run. You never know what could happen.
He's still qualified as of right now to be able to make that run. Pretty much anybody can. What do you think? Could that actually be in the cards? And do you see the American people?
Falling for it.
Now again. American politics as we know. Goes back and forth all the time. He may be right. Than two and a half years, you could have someone much further on the other side.
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You may be seeing the headline right now. A lot of you are just joining us. You know, we always know that. The first segment of the show, if we're talking about our social media followers, those that watch us, whether on Facebook or maybe you watch us on YouTube and Rumble, a lot of times everyone tunes in the second segment.
So we always have to kind of reset.
So people ask that. They're like, Logan, you always repeat yourself after the first segment.
Well, we know a lot of people rush in. But then a big you know, jump in within five minutes of starting.
So we got to restart. and really talk about James Comey, who's on Meet the Press saying, you know, If you are in one of these positions, Hold tight. Because we only got two and a half more years. And we're going to rebuild this thing in my image, essentially, is what he had to say. Let's hear again from James Comey Bite 4.
If you're bragging about forcing out career prosecutors and agents because the President doesn't like a lawful investigation they conducted, something is seriously broken at the top. But I have great confidence in the people down below who are just trying to hang on. And I'm urging them, hang on two and a half years, and then we can rebuild these institutions. But we need good people in those roles. America does.
Well, of course. Yeah, we can all agree with the last segment of that, which is... We need good people in those roles. America does. But that's not what he's talking about here.
And what is so frustrating when you hear him have airtime on Meet the Press and be able to go out there and share this message is that. This is the man that sent agents into the White House. To entrap people, to try and get information that could lead to prosecutions. of a new administration back in early 2017. And when asked about it, it was like, how did these agents end up there?
He said, I sent them. He bragged about it. He bragged about being above the executive branch, outside of it.
So, when you hear all of the, you know, we need an independent FBI, independent Department of Justice, this is what you get. You get unelected bureaucrats that feel like they are outside of the constitutional framework of the United States. He sent spies into the White House. to try and get people. He leaked.
Secret memos and notes, contemporaneous notes of his to get a special counsel. And remember, admitted these things. Like, not all of this is like bragged about it. This isn't like hyperbole. You know, it's hard to kind of go back in time and to think about it, going, these aren't allegations.
These are admissions. And again, like I said, not admissions of guilt, admissions of doing the right thing in his eyes.
Well, and then he goes on and continues this entire plot. After he is fired by President Trump, and rightfully so. He continues, he tries to get the special counsel, is successful at that. A special counsel appears on the scene, Bob Mueller. And what we also know is that he was a big part of that intelligence community assessment, which completely rewrote history of what happened in 2016.
Under the eyes of James Comey and John Brennan and James Clapper to try and say that there was this Russia collusion narrative, which we know was a hoax. They tried to completely unseat a duly elected President of the United States. And now, fast forward, you take that entire first four years, he got rid of James Comey, but a lot of the rot was still there. Because it kind of put an entire holding pattern. When you had to go through all of the Bob Mueller special counsel issues, he couldn't do the reforms in the DOJ and at the FBI that needed to happen in the first four years.
You see Christopher Ray. Come in on the scene, and what did they do under Biden? They started targeting Christians, people of faith, sending spies into churches. And now you're hearing him in this second term say, Hold on, we can get back to that business if you just wait two years. Because the President, how dare he get rid of people at the FBI and clean house?
How dare he get into this position where we can't do as we please as unelected bureaucrats? I do think we do need to kind of reframe our thoughts and remember that he's not wrong in the sense that we are only two years away. In two years in your eyes as you get older, as you all know, is absolutely nothing. We are talking about months, really, 24 months until you have... A new President, you know, at least pretty close to decided, you know, a few more months, 30 months, until there would be an election.
And of course we have midterms coming up in just a few months.
Some of them have already began. You've already seen some of the primaries. You've already seen all of this already happen.
So, to start thinking two years in the future, remember when people start planning out their Presidential campaigns, they start planning out a Presidential campaign essentially before the last election. Because the amount of money that has to be raised, the amount of things that have to get done to have a successful, even go at it, not necessarily a successful election, but to just have a good enough chance takes years and years of preparation.
So, when he's saying there's only two and a half years, hold on. That is because the wheels are already in motion. There are things that we know, there are things we don't know. I don't like using the deep state words anymore. I feel like that starts to become not mean as much, specifically when you have a presidency like you do right now, administration right now.
But There are people that are working behind the scenes within the parties. that certainly probably could be labeled that. And we've actually got a way for you to get involved in that right now. We have a new petition. I want you to get, you know, just go to aclj.org/slash sign.
You can read the whole text there. But we're not backing down. We know that this happens. We know that there are still people working behind the scenes to really undermine everything that you believe in, but also undermine the next few years. It's not just going to be whether or not whatever political party wins in the midterms, it is also setting up.
A very small window. Because obviously Depending on how the midterms go will really determine how the rest of this presidency goes. But Even if it goes the way that you want it to go. We know how quickly the American people can go one way or the other. We know where look, right now, probably where President Trump's approval ratings are right now.
Whether those are accurate or not, I think we have learned that with President Trump, the polls can never be trusted. But at least we know they feel like they have momentum going into the midterms. And don't be surprised if you feel like there is that momentum. And look, don't be surprised if in 2028. We are talking about a new President who is a Democrat.
Look at the world you've grown up in. It has gone back and forth our entire lives. There's no reason to believe that the next go-around will be any different.
Well, and once again, if you look at that and you say, you know, you hate the term deep state or feel like maybe it's played out because of what we have right now, but think about this. He's the one saying, hold on. That's what I'm saying. Wait, but wait also on this. Guess what's happening today in court, federal court with the ACLJ?
We're still fighting for documents. about him sending those spies into the White House. There is a reason that it is 2026, and we have been fighting for the better part of a decade to get these documents. It's because someone doesn't want to give them out through the freedom of information. Act.
So today We have our attorneys fighting for still outstanding documents about him sending spies on the White House. And I will remind you: this is from 2018. With Nicole Wallace and James Comey about this very issue, Byte 14. How did that happen? I sent them.
Okay. Um Something we probably wouldn't have done, or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, a more organized administration, in the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. In both of those administrations, there was process, and so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself. To interview a senior official, you would work through the White House council and there'd be discussions and approvals and who would be there.
And I thought it's early enough. Let's just send a couple guys over. And that's him responding to the question from Nicole Wallace: you look at this White House now, it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in that room. How did that happen? And he says I sent them.
It's early enough. Let's send a couple guys over. That's what we're fighting to get documents on.
Something he admits to. And just even the fact that an FBI director thinks that's okay. To go around and outside the chain of command in the executive branch and say, you know what, I'm going to send agents over because they're not going to be ready for this. That goes to show his book was called A Higher Loyalty. That higher loyalty is to himself, and he has been showing that the entirety of this public life ever since he tried to unseat the President of the United States.
He tried to send agents in and spies in. That's why we're still fighting this. It seems ridiculous, and to some degree it is, that we still have to fight this, that we're still in court to get these documents. But when you sit there and you're like, maybe the deep state, you know, maybe that's played out, it's not because we're still having to deal with it. And he's calling them to action in just a few short years.
Yeah, I mean, I see some comments coming through that are like, Logan, wake up. You don't know what you're talking about. I mean, I think that I'm being a pretty realist here.
Okay, if you're talking about what a 2026 and a 2028 election is going to look like. There's no reason that your foot shouldn't be on the gas right now into figuring out what needs to be done. Do not rest on your laurels right now. You are dealing with a time in America where things are rough for a lot of people, and if you don't pay attention to how American people are reacting, you're not really paying attention. To the $4 plus in the middle America for gas prices, and think that that's not gonna drive a lot of people to vote one way or the other?
or actually to motivate people to get out or not get out to vote? You gotta be clear-eyed in this.
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Okay. Do you think that James Comey? Is setting the stage for himself to run for President. We know he's got an indictment over his head that's lingering over that Instagram. Look, that is to stop people from running for President.
That's fair. But, you know, say that all gets cleared up. Do you think he is setting the stage? Fair enough. He has written that book, A Higher Loyalty, Truth, Lies, and Leadership.
That came out years ago. But that was a kind of Presidential-style book that people write. We now hear him saying things like, hold out two more years, and we can. can rebuild. That is a call to action, and he has been doing a lot of media.
If we're whispering it, other people are talking about it. Right. Look, I think what you got to understand. I don't want to act like we are some political prognosticators. If that thought has ever entered our mind, I will assure you.
that that has entered the mind in the conversation of not just James Comey, but the people surrounding him and the people approaching him. The amount of people that I know have been approached in real life by real, whether it's political action committees or whatever it may be, with the effort to get them to run for President. One, you'd be surprised. at the people who have been approached to try to have that good run. But I guarantee you When there's movies being made about you, when there's conversations being had.
You're in that mix. You're in that mix. I'm not saying that he has plans for it. I'm not saying it's even on the docket form. But where you're right, when you're doing media, unsolicited media in some ways, when you're not out there promoting a product, you're not out there promoting something current.
Sure, he could say he's currently tried to defend himself against the Court of Public Opinion in the indictment. But why? Why does that matter? Why does it matter? One, we know he loves television.
We know he loves to talk on camera. Nothing wrong with that. It's a commendable thing. We know he loves to meddle around with what's happening in politics, especially around election season.
So, whether it's midterms, whether that is the Presidential season, we know he loves to get himself in the mix.
So, that's not shocking to say the least.
However, I do think even if it's not him running for President, That there are bigger aspirations. What that looks like, again, this is not an older guy. This is a guy who's 65. He is 15 years younger than the current President of the United States.
Okay, remember, put that into your brain right now.
Okay, between Joe Biden and President Trump, we were talking about Presidents. who are in their eighties. Barack Obama was an outlier. George W. Bush was an outlier to really our whole initial generation.
It's a lot of been older people. And of course, now we are seeing if he's 65, now you're talking about 67, that's kind of like prime age for what seems to be the. Preferred? Presidential candidate for a lot of people. I mean, Bernie Sanders was preferred for a lot of people.
And I don't know where he is age-wise, but I will tell you, it's on the older side. Right. So give us a call. What do you think? 1-800-684-3110.
Is he going to try to play this rational centrist kind of role? I know that he has tried to become a hero to the left. With all his actions he took against President Trump, even though he was despised by them for all the things he did to Hillary Clinton during that entire campaign. People forget about that.
So, what do you think? Do you think he's going to try to run? Give us a call. But there is some other things we need to update people on. That's a big victory because we filed last week, we told you at the Supreme Court last Thursday.
Urging the Supreme Court do not take Virginia's request. To put a hold on the state courts block of their referendum, which changed their congressional map, making it a 10 to 1 Democrat to Republican congressional map. The Supreme Court of the United States. Did just what we were asking and rejected the bid from the Democrats in Virginia, trying to get them to weigh in and allow their congressional map to move forward. We were talking about that.
You never know what's going to happen at the Supreme Court, but that is one of the reasons why it's so important to file, why the ACLJ was able to jump on that and get a brief in in what feels like record time to the Supreme Court saying, don't take this. One, you look at what the Supreme Court did. It was a state constitutional matter. You don't need to weigh in here. It was a very brief order, one sentence order.
So it didn't go into rationale why or why they didn't take it, but we do know. That, at least for now, is no longer a threat. That the way they changed their rules in Virginia, the way they said we're trying to make it fair, which fair to them meant completely rewriting it and taking away the voice of almost half of their state who votes. Conservatively. Not progressively, not on the left.
So they were trying to be fair by taking away their own. People's voice. You also see what they're trying to do there, where since their new governor went in place, they are trying to disenfranchise the own states' votes even more by signing off on that interstate electoral college popular vote compact, which says that if they get to 270 electoral college votes, It doesn't matter how the people of their state vote anymore. They're only going to go with what the popular vote is. Virginia consistently with the Democrats they have elected are trying to take away the voice of Virginians.
And that should concern not just the people in Virginia, and we know we have a lot of people listening from there, but everyone around the country, because we saw what Kamala Harris said last week: that there's no bad ideas. They thought that was a good enough messaging point, Logan, from that call. That on May 15th at 5:17 p.m., I got a fundraising email. From Kamala Harris saying, If you've been looking for a way to fight back against Republicans cheating across this country, this is it. Look, we've got to fight fire with fire.
These folks are playing to win, so we need to play to win too. They're ruthless, so we need to be ruthless too. When the stakes are this high, there are no bad ideas. It's time for us to talk about electoral college reform, Supreme Court reform and ethics, multi-member districts, statehood for DC and Puerto Rico, and more. What we saw is like a crazy talk saying, let's just throw everything out there.
They thought was a good enough. Messaging point and clearly did well enough with enough people. It could be because people like us are talking about it. But they're fundraising on it now, which means. that enough people want that That's scary.
So you've either got Kamala Harris wanting to completely throw out our entire constitutional framework, or you've got James Comey who thinks he's above it all at this point. We're going in an interesting trajectory here in the next few years. Yeah, look, and we have a petition I want you to get involved in before we end this segment and head into the second half hour. We do have a few lines still open.
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. Second half hour of the show coming right up. We do have some calls coming in and some still lines open at 1-800-684-31-10. I want to take a phone call right off the back.
So hopefully encourage you to call in as well, be a part of this conversation. I don't like this to be a one-way street, Will and I talking and you guys don't respond. I want to hear from you. Whether you agree with us or disagree with us, by the way, we are always happy to take your calls if you're respectful to our phone screeners, respectful to our team. Doesn't matter what side you're on, politically or whatever it may be.
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David, go ahead. Hey, hi, how you doing?
So I just real quick, you had met you had made a statement that who knows, we might be turning a Democratic I mean, who knows, they might win the the election. All things have been exposed, and I know personally a lot of Democrats that have came over to the Republican side. Just a very scary thought if that was to take place.
Well, David, I I wouldn't put it past anybody. And I think just as many as you're saying, especially in California. California, I think you're seeing maybe one of the first ever rise ups of sort of some form of conservatives having some voices in California in more recent days. I will tell you. that a lot of the more standard voices in conservatism And Republicans, people you thought were the most trished Republican voters and influencers.
have started to encourage people to vote the other way. I started to promote Being sort of the gin. They've gone so far right that they've found themselves at the horseshoe of the left. That is where we're at today.
So let's not pretend also there's not a huge group of Republican voters who are going to vote or not vote. They're going to either vote the other way or they're going to vote. Uh you know, specifically in spite You know, that is happening as well. It's all about just being clear-eyed, like I said. Just making sure you go in there with the proper expectations.
Don't go in there with any assumptions that anything in any district or area or any place. Is already decided.
Well, and here's what's so tone-deaf going back to the James Comey discussion: is he saying give it two and a half years and we'll be able to rebuild the FBI and the Department of Justice. What is so fascinating there is, even if he is assuming that Democrats win, right? He's assuming that everyone dislikes. The changes at the FBI.
Now, I know that's what the media wants you to think: is that, you know, they don't like Cash Patel. He's not really on the job. They're putting out all these crazy articles about him. But in reality, what have we seen? We've seen thwarted terror attacks.
We've seen a huge crackdown on the fraud industry that has been going on in the United States for so long. And where did a lot of that even stem from? You think of this. The Medicaid expansion under Obamacare was the biggest portion of Obamacare that got people insured. But what we're now finding out Uh uh more than a decade later.
Is that maybe it also opened up the door for people ripping off the American people at an industrial scale? Because of how much fraud is going on. And you're seeing indictments. all over the country. over fraud, where they're stealing taxpayer dollars.
That's the work of the FBI and the DOJ.
So him saying that we're going to change it back, we're going to do it. Maybe people don't want that. Maybe they want the FBI not going into churches, spying on people. They want them arresting people who are taking hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars from you. Yeah.
The funny thing is, though, the media will spend that as the FBI is doing the wrong thing by investigating fraud. They're showing that as like a politically motivated moment. How dare they? And now, look, I do think that President Trump has adjusted some of that by making some replacements to his administration, has changed some things up. And that has helped.
In terms of making it look a little less. Like I said, almost advertising, a little less propaganda.
So I have to commend them for that. But don't pretend that's not going to be swerved as going, oh, the American people must hate this because, you know, anything the Trump administration does is bet. Because that is what the media will make you believe. And control a good chunk of the country who watch and listen. Got a few lines open now.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. We are going to take some phone calls in this segment and discuss a little bit more about some updates that are going on in Iran as President Trump has sort of started to ramp up some of the rhetoric. At least indicating to us that the ceasefire may be on its last legs.
Well, that's right. And the President is expected to convene a situation room meeting on Tuesday to discuss potential military options against Iran. I'm guessing China conversations didn't go as far as we had, maybe. Right. And you also see some posts that he made over the weekend.
One with the United States flag over the map of the Middle East with a bunch of arrows pointing towards Iran. I missed that one. That one does seem to infer potentially some sort of action. Yeah, we'll find out. We know that this meeting, the Situation Room meeting, is tomorrow.
He also put up a post. That was going after the media. It says: if Iran surrenders, admits their navy is gone and resting at the bottom of the sea, and their air force is no longer with us, and if their entire military walks out of Tehran, weapons dropped and hands held high, each shouting, I surrender, I surrender, while wildly waving the representative white flag. And if their entire remaining leadership signs all necessary documents of surrender and admit their defeat, to the great power and force of the magnificent USA. The failing New York Times The China Street Journal Wall Street Journal, corrupt and now irrelevant CNN, and all other members of the fake news media will headline that Iran has a masterfully and brilliant victory over the United States of America.
It wasn't even close. You're not going to finish that, Will? The next line.
Okay, okay, I will. But the Democrats and media have totally lost their way. They have gone absolutely crazy. President DJT. I don't think you said crazy how it was written either because crazy was all caps with a bunch of.
You want me to try again? Crazy. Oh, it was sing songs.
Well, they honored. People always want you to sing. You know, Mike Johnson honored Ozzy this week.
So that's why I was thinking it as the beginning. The whole Osborne family was there. It was very nice of him. Yeah. I like a President Trump statement like this because it feels like a foreign leader that we have had to translate sometimes and we put it through Google Translate.
We're like, well, clearly there's some things lost in translation here. There's some intensity. But no, Lord, no. The China Street Journal. It's all so intense.
But look, maybe this is the kind of rhetoric you need to cross that. Gap of. Is that what you need?
Well, I'm talking about in terms of the.
So it doesn't get lost in translation.
Well, if you're not going to be able to do that, there are things that he's saying, if Iran does all these things. Then we will let them be. No, that's not what it says. I think I lost my own train of thought here.
So, what does it say? It says, you know, that if they do all these things, it's still not enough. No, it says then the New York Times and Wall Street, they'll all say. Iran won.
Okay. Yeah. It's a swerve. It's a lot of words to say fake news media is going to lie about it. That was at 9:40 a.m.
Okay, so that's actually a reasonable time. That's like a breakfast post, post-breakfast. You know, you're full already. You had your coffee. I don't know if he drinks coffee.
I don't know. It doesn't seem like a coffee. Just Diet Coke. Yeah, exactly. Right.
Like a real man. All right. We do have a ton of calls. Yeah, let's start getting it. What do you think about it?
We have a call about Iran. Let's. Let's take Jack in North Carolina. Jack, go ahead. Hello, Jack.
Yeah. Enjoy listening to you guys. Appreciate all your work. Um I just wonder if we weaken the ran Their Army and Navy, why are we having such a hard time open and not the Strait of Hormuz.
Well, I will handle this. Yeah, I mean, it's a great question, Jack. The reason being, one, Their drones, they still have drone capabilities. It obviously has weakened. They also used a lot of their arsenal in the first phase of that Operation Epic Fury.
But they still have that as a threat. That, hey, we can target with these unarmed drones. They don't have to have ships to launch that. They don't have to have an Air Force to launch that. They just can launch them.
They're one way, they're not meant to come back. But also, the threat of mines. Those don't take large naval vessels. They can bring them out on smaller craft and place them. That's also why there are some of those smaller craft have been hit into sink in the way that kind of the drug smuggling boats have been taken out as well.
So the ability to wreak havoc on that very narrow strait. Is actually, they have the advantage in being able to wreak that havoc because it doesn't take super sophisticated technology or a Navy. And in some ways, it's even harder to spot them doing because it isn't like an armada of Navy ships going and doing.
So, and that was always a every analyst ever said that if we go to conflict with Iran, the threat is that they can cause disruption in shipping through the Strait of Hormuz. It's a very narrow point. I believe it's only eight miles land to land from Oman on the other side to the mainland of Iran. It's not that hard for them to cause disturbance to the flow of sea traffic through there. There you go.
Hope that answered your question there, Jack. Getting a little geography going, Will. It's very nice. I liked it. Is that your favorite class?
Did you take geography ever? Did you take a specific Class that was geography. Yeah, I think so. I don't think I ever did. I don't think I did.
I mean, it was a part of other classes. I knew people in college and undergrad that took. Geography. And you're like, we have maps. I know.
It's like, who can really believe the maps? There's a lot of people that don't these days, and maybe they didn't take geography. Maybe they didn't know. Maybe they did, and they were like, nothing. This seems like a propaganda class.
I just feel like an entire term. On just geography? Like, uh I didn't take the class, so I can't know. But you've got to be a great professor to make that engagement. If I gave you the United States of America blank, could you fill in every state?
Probably. I think I could. Yeah, I mean, are the boundaries there? Do I have to draw boundaries? No, boundaries are there.
Yeah, easy. Midwest, you got it? You got it? Midwest is actually probably the easiest for me.
Well, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Well, no, it means they're like mostly squares. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and if you know which square goes where, I can get the coast pretty good.
Okay. You know, those are pretty identifying. Lewis is a little bit more difficult because, like, Vermont, New Hampshire, is kind of like a yin-yang. Yeah. But so which is what I don't know.
All right, back to the calls. Let's go to Bonnie in Washington. Mix it up there. Bonnie, welcome. Yeah, so Hi there.
I really enjoyed the information you guys share because I know it's the truth. I thank God Davy I was born and raised when I was in the value system I was raised with. And I feel I've been healthy my whole life. But I'm now seventy-eight. And probably in the mid seventies.
My health. You know, it isn't like I was when I was twenty.
So why Don't we have in our Constitution or the regulations for our President and even our Congress and Senate and House and judges age limits? This is a topic of conversation. I think we've also learned with time is that an 80-year-old in one body and an 80-year-old in another body is not exactly equal. We don't know. You could be, you know, there is a 90-year-old, there's 100-year-olds that I know that are outpacing people in their 70s or is their 60s at this point.
Do you know multiple of them? I mean, know of multiple.
Okay. Yes, and I know some of them in their 90s. You know, and that's just. Also, Bonnie, I think where we're at right now is sure, maybe when the Constitution was written, when all of this started to be set, the Presidential rules, people weren't living. to the links that they are living now.
But that also means the medical has gotten so much better that you are going to have generations of people that are living. I mean, how many more people do you know, Baboni? I mean, this is rhetorical, but that you know now that are living into their not only their 70s and into their 80s and 90s, a lot more. Than the previous generation, just one generation ago. Our parents' generation, our grandparents' generation, who, you know, I feel like there were very few people.
Who made it out of their 70s? You knew people. Oh, they're in their 80s. That's not rare anymore.
So that does start to change that conversation. I also don't love the idea of throwing more limits.
Well, and to her comment as well, she also asked: I understand, though. What would it take to make it happen? I think it would take constitutional amendments, especially for the office of the presidency. Even Congress has age. Where you can start.
but not where you age out. You have to reach a certain age before you can run for President, before you can be a senator, things of that nature, a member of the House.
So I do think that It would the only way to do that would be a constitutional amendment, and uh, I don't see that happening. Yeah, and honestly, I've never been a big fan of that, even the How old do you have to be to be running for President? Right. I've always thought that was a weird, arbitrary number that we have picked for some reason that you have to be. You know, in your mid-30s.
I'm not really sure that's how I've ever felt that that's necessary.
Now, do I think that maybe you should be over 35? For life experience sake, yeah, probably. But I'm also open to the American people making that decision. I think we've seen successful people. at all forms of life, at all points of life.
So I don't know. I w I wonder If the founders and framers were thinking, like, because you couldn't just go see the President at that point, they're like, we just got to make sure they're old enough because you could just see a name back then and have no idea. Yeah, it could be a dog. Right. So I'm going to have some limits.
Yeah, I understand that. And they were like, 34, that's a ripe old age. He's only got another good 10 out of left. All right, we'll be right back with more on Sekulow. We made it here, folks.
Last segment of the day for your Monday. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. I'm looking into the studio and I'm thinking, I don't know if we did make it. There's some concerning faces in there, Will. Are they so sad?
Very stressed-out faces. Monday. Look, we got a lot of now. There's some excitement. I've turned them all around.
There's even some thumbs up from people. I can't see their faces. I think they're knowing. They're knowing. There's something happening in there.
Uh-oh. And they're having a giggle face.
Now they are. There wasn't a second ago, I assure you. Yeah. During the break, there was no giggling happening. But speaking of that, we got some phone lines open.
1-800-684-3110. Well, it takes some calls. These are all related to like war, so I guess it's not necessarily a comment about James Comey that came in Rumble. Comey, don't play that. It said, This from Rumble said, Comey isn't radical enough for the current Democratic base.
And I don't disagree with that, and that's also why a potential run from James Comey, I think, would be difficult. You know, you say that, though. He wouldn't be at home on the Republican side. You say that, but then you look at Joe Biden. who at the time of his pre Obama, was a very very moderate Democrat.
time during Obama, was still a pretty moderate Democrat. You know, they elected as their President of the United States. A very old You know, white man. You know, if you want to really break it down. who had pretty moderate ideas, but was able to be controlled, by the far left of the party.
So you make a palatable candidate. For your moderate Democrats. And then you swoop in with the people around them to really control what they're doing. The problem is, I don't think James Comey also is what I'd consider to be a moderate. I would actually put Joe Biden.
Closer to that than where James Comey is. I also don't think that James Comey would be controllable. I think he thinks he is the smartest man in the room, and that if he were to make a run for President, it's because he believes that he is the one that could lead, not that he is the one to play the political game. Because, in reality, that is what the entire DNC apparatus has become: just a political game of who can be controlled by the party boss. And by the way, that could happen too on the Republican side.
it very easily happen depending on who you decide to get, you know, nominate the next go go round. There are always people, career people. Look even President Trump's first term. Look at George W. Bush.
Look at George Bush Sr., look at Ronald Reagan. They got surrounded by people who a lot of times were career politicians or career, even career administration. People that had been involved in multiple administrations, sometimes for the better. I'll say you sometimes want people with experience who have been there before. You understand how the offices work?
Because sometimes you go too far out and you get some wild things happening, or you get people who are ineffective because they don't understand how to play the game of politics. I mean, look, like we said, with the whole Doge situation, you had Elon Musk, who I thought was doing a great job coming in there, great intentions. Coming in there saying this is so controlled, there's so much red tape, there's so much happening. In the politicization of these departments, that it's almost impossible to get anything done.
Sort of the veil was lifted. For him saying, oh, I am wasting my time here. In this office, to try to actually get anything done. I think a lot of people, when they see behind the curtain of what happens in politics, they realize that's the case.
Now that changed up a little bit this term. But it's why you see sometimes those same faces, those same voices get repeated over and over again. It's why James Comey is still out there in the press and could likely have a very long career depending on who becomes President next or who gets elected. That being said, I want to take some calls before we have to wrap up. Let's hop on to one.
Will, where do you want to go? Let's go to Jeff calling in Virginia, watching on Salem News Channel. Jeff, you're on Sekulow. Thank you so much. mister Witt mentioned earlier about the National Popular Interstate Compact.
Yes. And my state, the Commonwealth of Virginia, voted for that. Is there any work being done? It seems to be this is very unconstitutional to hopefully derail it before it goes down the road.
Well, what Jeff is asking about is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. That's the official title. And 18 states plus DC have enacted this so far. Together. They have 222 electoral votes that they're pledging.
Virginia was the 19th jurisdiction that just signed this into law. What it states is that if they get to the point. To 270 collective electoral votes, because that's what you need to win the presidency. 270 to win. Then They will no longer go based off how their state votes to award their electoral votes.
They will go based off what the national popular vote is. It is concerning. There is, definitely, there's work being done, I would say, by probably the RNC and things to look at this. It's not essentially waste your vote. At this point.
That they can win more consistently if they go with the popular vote. It changes the way that people campaign, but it also completely messes up the system. That's more what I'm saying. Then if you're Campaigning in a place like Virginia, you're not fighting for those votes. You're fighting for.
Right. Reading for California and New York. A complete. End run around the Constitution and the Electoral College system. I'm sure there will be challenges to it if it gets to that 270.
But the concern is: I mean, it's uncharted territory whether or not how courts would rule on it. Yeah, it's creative. It's interesting. Nothing short of that. Let's go ahead and continue on with the calls.
Thanks, Jeff. Let's go to Gabe, who's calling at South Carolina. Gabe, go ahead. Yes, I just wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on the reports that Pakistan was harboring some Iranian planes during the negotiations. I don't have any sort of intelligence or anything that isn't possible.
I love what you're saying here. But I would say Pakistan, they are mediating for a reason. It's not like they are exclusively friendly to the United States. We also know that Osama bin Laden lived pretty close to a military base in Pakistan for a very long time before he was taken out by the United States. Pakistan is not necessarily a 100% ally of the United States.
There's a reason they're the middleman. Exactly. Exactly. And today, look, they said they've. Presented a new version of the deal.
Pakistan has done that.
So, look, if you're going to have a middleman, you can have someone that you could shake hands with, but you're not necessarily the most friendly with. And that's probably the only way things can get done.
So, though the The reports are probably not inaccurate. I understand the need to have these sort of gray partners, if you will. People that are not necessarily just 100% on your side, or therefore, you may not be able to have any sort of progress moving forward.
Now, looking at President Trump's statements for the last few days, that doesn't look very likely to begin with. Let's go ahead and go to Gene to wrap us up. Gene, go ahead. Yes, sir. Answering or adding to that comment about the gentleman who asked Why the straight afore moves open if we Sucked the Navy and destroyed the Air Force, and your comment was about drones.
How do we know those drones are actually Iranian?
Well, one, that is what obviously we're taking the word of the U.S. military and the intelligence. How do they know? They would know based off of examining them, the construction of it, the intelligence they have, seeing where they were launched from. Where they come from.
Right. They have a lot of technology that lets them know where it's coming from. Yeah, remember that they're monitoring it all the way. Look, Eugene, it's okay to ask those questions, but I do think there's some things. It's okay to go, you know what?
We can at least say that is likely the case. With that, I do want to thank all of you called in. Law, you did end up calling in.
So I appreciate that. We've got a great week of show packed for you. Will's going to be hosting the show tomorrow. That's right. I'm off.
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