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I've got some great guests lined up, of course, to add some insight and interest for you. And I know you're passionate about what's happening in politics as well as what's happening around the globe, especially as it has to do with this war in Iran. Gonna get to Jonathan Shanzer shortly. He's one of the key officers at the Department of Defense and Democracy. He's a real military expert.

For five straight days, we have bombed significant targets inside Iran while trying to reopen the strait. But there's a strategy and game plan to this. Many people argue, and some will look back and say, maybe we shouldn't have stopped to begin with, but the president wanted to give the ceasefire a chance and the memorandum of understanding a chance to see if it could go anywhere. But the MOU, in my view, has made everything worse. It was a terrible document.

It had a lot of gray area to it. Iran, that evil regime, has taken advantage of that because of that, holding on to the strait. You look at what it says on Article 5 of that deal. They think they can hold on to the strait if you're. You look at that, and we'll discuss that later.

Also, J.D. Vance hopped on with Joe Rogan for three hours.

Okay, you got to sell a book, and you're vice president. You could do interviews. But I did read in Axios that he was originally supposed to meet with Republicans in the morning, but he had to push that in the afternoon, I guess, because. He was on with Joe Rogan, at which time he made it pretty clear he thinks the Epstein files was poorly handled by the administration. You wanted everything out right away, really?

There's a downside to that, because the President was friends with Epstein for a while. Because he was a financier living in Palm Beach and he was a fellow billionaire. That's what they do. They're not hanging out with me and you, they hang out with each other. And then, when he turned out to be a pedophile, he went to jail.

And the president, a long time ago, said goodbye to the guy. But they knew that if you look, if you release all the files, the president's name's all over that. Because like he was friends with them. And then they had a huge falling out. But that's not going to be in context with his political enemies.

But still, J.D. Vance was on with Joe Rogue and he came out and said that. All right. Did you think that through? The other thing he came out and made it clear that he blames Israel.

This guy says. A lot of things about Israel. It sounds much like those new anti-Israel sentiment on the left. Anti-Jewish sentiment that we see on college campuses. Yesterday, Catherine Clark of Massachusetts whipped together votes and got over one hundred votes, one hundred and three votes to stop funding to Israel.

One hundred and three. 2024, this vote was put up 37 House Democrats. That was alarming.

Now look about this. You're talking about $3.3 billion worth of funding. Israel modernizes. They give us intelligence back. There's a give and take between both relationships and gives a democracy an ear in the entire region.

When we take our eyes off it, you know what happens? Things start blowing up here. Remember 9/11? Remember what Israel just did tipping off the president that they're going to target the new Air Force One. That's why he switched planes.

That was one of those leads from Israel to say they picked up a plot. That's called an ally. Democrats see it as a political liability. I don't get it. For J.D.

Vance, I really don't get it. I mean, he's trying to say. The next generation of Republicans, more anti-Israel than pro-Israel, and this generation of Democrats all against Israel, and the previous ones are jumping off the Israeli bandwagon. If you're a Jewish American, how you could ever vote for a Democrat who's not John Fetterman? I don't know who it is.

Hakeem Jeffries right now voted to keep aid going, but that's not going to last too long. Here's J.D. Vance yesterday, cut four. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, that there have been people within the Israeli government who are trying to. Like, actually, shift us away from that policy because they want to continue the military campaign.

There are some people within their system we know beyond a shadow of a doubt who are. Manipulating and trying to change American public opinion to keep the war going on indefinitely. Again, not towards any objective, but just indefinitely.

Okay. Nobody in Israel wants war. You might have these squads. Like, we have a squad here. Is that really American doctrine or policy?

Really? AOC is the leader?

So what you're saying, there might be a couple of right wing extremists who want to fight all the time. I have never met them yet. But when you have Hezbollah rocketing you from the north and then Hamas rocketing you from the south and then kills over a thousand Israelis for no reason, On october seventh, twenty twenty three, You're going to get a response. And when you rocket Israel like Iran did, you're going to get a response. And they're going to be assassinations.

You try to get a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel, you're going to get a response. There are people in Israel That's look at the MOU that he signed and said, this is terrible. Nuth doesn't handle ballistic missiles. They're allowed to continue to control the strait. I don't know who's going to get their nuclear material out of the ground.

The U.S. is not committed to that.

So they were critical of it. It doesn't mean they want perpetual war. And why even bring it up like it's the doctrine? It's called preservation. If we were being rocketed by Mexico and Canada, You might say that we want war.

No, we want them to stop it, and to do that, we have to show force. I thought we all understood that.

So I interviewed Uh Jonathan Chandzer. Of defense of democracies. And I discussed this. Let's listen. Earlier yesterday, the U.S.

carried out more strikes on Iran, targeting Iranian military capabilities, marking the fifth day of attacks. In the meantime, President Trump says Iran has released an American citizen who was banned from leaving the country since 2024 under the Biden administration. The president took the Truth Social, saying this is a sign of goodwill by Iran. It's true. This marks the first American release by Iran since 2023.

Although there have been about five more Americans who are still believed to be wrongfully detained, our next guest says Tehran is signaling it once an off-ramp. Here to further that discussion is the Executive Director of the Foundation for Democracy, Jonathan Shanzer. Jonathan, you really see something in that release of this woman.

Well, look, I would just say that this is at least a sign of softening on the part of the Islamic Republic at a time where we're watching escalation across the Strait of Horror moves and beyond. It's a deviation from all of the other messages that we're getting out of Tehran right now, which to me signifies that there's something else going on. Of course, we've got Adam Bowler, who's been that envoy for the Trump administration, who holds this portfolio, and that may be separate from what Stephen Witkoff or Marco Rubio or J.D. Bance are doing as they reach out to the Iranian regime.

So, how much damage have we done over the last five days? It seems really expansive. And yesterday we hit the 388th Battalion over in Iran, and that's a group over in the Baluchistan area, and that is further into Iran than ever before. Why do you think we're doing that? Look, I think what we're looking for right now are viable targets on the part of this regime.

You know, when you look at that first wave of attacks that we carried out over those initial weeks of the war, we did a lot of damage to the regime. I think it's taken some time for the U.S. military to acquire a new target bank.

So, in other words, we're looking further and deeper into Iran to look for things that we haven't hit that are still significant, that are worth these valuable munitions that we expend. I mean, these are exquisite munitions. They cost a lot of money. We don't want to waste them on weak targets.

So, we're looking for things further into the regime. And I got to say, I think that right now the president is doing something that's really interesting. I mean, we're expanding those targets while trying to not expand the war significantly.

So, this is kind of a tightrope act that the president is engaging in right now. We've got to weaken the regime. We've got to show that tough resolve. But at the same time, we don't want to see a massive S. Escalation.

So it's an interesting balancing act that he's trying to carry out.

So he's thinking about two things. It's on Tuesday's meeting that reports out of the situation where Carg Island finally takes it. Might need some troops on the ground and pickaxe. Let's blow it up the best we can. We have not really touched that facility in a significant way.

Should he do both? Should he do one? Look, I think both are incredibly important targets. Karg Island is obviously crucial for the Iranian regime's income. This is the major source of oil exports, which, of course, means this is the major source for funding for this regime.

To the extent that we can neutralize this while also preserving that infrastructure so that the Iranian people can enjoy it if and when this regime falls, I think that's really important. And then Pickaxe Mountain, of course, this is kind of their alamo here. I mean, it is their underground facility where they can continue to try to advance that nuclear program. To the extent that we can neutralize it, we should. The question is: how to get into it?

Because we cannot just bomb it through conventional weapons from the air. We're going to need something a lot bigger than what we probably have used so far in this conflict. This would mean probably introducing new weapons that might make folks a little uncomfortable, but I do think it's going to be really. important to neutralize this site. No one's ever attacked this country since they've been attacking us.

It's the first time a president is degrading one of our enemies that declared war on us on a daily basis. As they've said, death to America is not a phrase, it's a policy. And I go back to the one statement in the MOU that's so problematic. It says, Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultan of Oman to define the future administration of maritime services in the Strait. This is an evil regime who lies, but they're going on what was written, and that's problematic.

Thanks so much, Jonathan. Appreciate it. All right. Hope you enjoyed that. Very insightful.

I cannot wait to see what the President does next.

Meanwhile, coming up next, a deep thinker. Bill McGurn, former Bush administration speechwriter, now Wall Street Journal columnist. You're listening to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say.

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There's so many stunning stories out there from Governor Walsh saying it's bad news that we picked up a child molester and forced him out of the country to the craziness with what's going on with anti-Israel sentiment in this country. And I know the numbers look like everybody's against Israel. I think it's a lot of it is Islamic extremist propaganda just being pumped into our country and blaming Israel for everything, which I think the academia has a lot to do with. But it really came to a head yesterday as House Democrats, 103 of them, voted to block funding. Block funding to Israel.

Now, just a few years ago, 37, 2024, 37 Democrats, and five years ago, zero Democrats voted against AIDS Israel.

Now, if they get the House, expected to be the policy.

So I talked to Bill McGurn, former speechwriter for George W. Bush and longtime columnist for the Wall Street Journal about this new trend. And it's mostly on the left, but not just on the left. Here's that interview. More than 100 House Democrats voting against providing U.S.

aid to Israel. Stunning. It's a ship from two years ago. When 37 voted this way, and 10 years ago, when none of them voted against Israeli aid, and now AOC is warning the rest of her party to get in line. The majority of Democrats now have shifted.

Where we are on this issue with respect to Israel, that the U.S. cannot continue to finance a a reckless government that has no regard for human rights. It was certainly hoped that anyone running for president in two years would not be stuck ten years in the past. She doesn't know what she's talking about, and she's never been to that region. But she's right about this.

Even Nancy Pelosi, formerly one of the most pro-Israeli Democrats in Congress, now flipping to vote against the funding bill. And our next guest warns this is only the beginning. As Jewish Democrats discover their loyalty to the party is not being returned. Fox News contributor Bill McGern joins us now. Bill, are you shocked over 100 Democrats, not including Hakeem Jeffries, because he voted to fund Israel aid, would vote against Israel?

No, it's not a shock. This is the direction the Democratic Party today has taken in America. You know, 20 years ago would be a shock. I grew up in this area.

So to see the New York contingent, especially be overtaken by anti-Israeli voices, I just would not have thought it imaginable. It's interesting that, look, you showed AOC speaking instead of Chuck Schumer because she better represents where the Democratic Party is going, not Chuck Schumer. Bernie Sanders gets up every day wanting to defund Israel. He's a Jewish guy from Brooklyn. And Chuck Schumer wrote a book about anti-Semitism.

He doesn't want to take ownership of that. He's too scared to come out on something like this and stand up to his own party. Yeah, and it's been a while for him because, you know, he likes to say that his last name comes from Schomer, which means protector, and he considers himself the protector of Israel. But, you know, when Obama made that very bad deal with Iran on the nukes, he in the end voted against it, but only when they had like the votes to where it didn't matter. If he really was a leader and a protector, he'd be leading the efforts.

But the people like Chuck Schumer that are moderates or moderates on Israel, the party doesn't like them anymore. The party is firmly in the hate Israel camp, comparisons to Nazi Germany and the like.

So, Bill, maybe they'd be happier if Israel just let Hezbollah clear out the northern part of their country and continue to send rockets there. Maybe they'd be thrilled if they didn't respond after October 7th and allowed Hamas to put endless rockets into their country. That would have been the Israel that they liked. They would acquiesce to their enemies and ultimately give up their land. I don't get what they want.

But here's something else to be important: it's not just on the left, it's on the right. And I'm seeing it a lot from our current vice president. Listening to him yesterday when he spent three hours with Joe Rogan on Israel. Listen. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that there have been people within the Israeli government who are trying to.

Like, actually, shift us away from that policy because they want to continue the military campaign. There are some people within their system we know beyond a shadow of a doubt who are. Manipulating and trying to change American public opinion to keep the war going on indefinitely. Again, not towards any objective, but just indefinitely.

So what do you think the President thinks about that? And do you think he's right? No, I don't think he's right. I agree that if you want an end to it, I think the end is a victory, not another hollow victory, where Iran reconstitutes itself as a major threat in the Middle East.

So I'm not sure what What purpose the vice president is serving by attacking Israel or something? Also, it makes sense. If you were Israel, wouldn't you like it? Your primary enemy is at war with the U.S. You might be rooting for it to go on until it's concluded, but that's just a matter of interest.

I don't think he expressed it well. I think to, again, to single out Israel, I think it gets your priorities wrong. And look, say this about Democrats and Republicans. I think there's one Republican that voted against Israel, and that's Tom Massey. And Democrats have nearly half the party.

There's anti-semi-Semitic voices in the Republican Party, but Not like the Democrats, half the House, half their House members.

So I think it's a big difference. Ari Freischer, my former colleague in the Bush administration, last year put it this way. He said, American Republicans have a cold with anti-Semitism. Democrats have a fever. And I think it's getting very severe.

And if Chuck Schumer really the guardian he fancies himself, he should speak up and denounce the drift of his party. He won't. He didn't speak up when they were the anti-Semitic rants over at Columbia. He's not going to speak up now, Bill. And I will say, too, that Israel is not attacking Iran because they want war.

Iran is arming the proxies on either side of their country and has rockets getting into their country. That's why they want to get rid of Iran's arsenal, because they're using it against them. Bill, thanks so much. Appreciate it. If Iran were peaceful, there'd be no protests.

Thank you. Nothing from Israel. We used to understand that. I don't know. Thanks, Bill.

Bill McGurn is not an alarmist, he is somebody that's noteworthy. And this is why Prime Minister Netanyahu said about a month ago. Israel is going to be prepared to produce, make, Export in And maybe exports for a profit their own weapon system. You can't count on America. That's why.

Because of votes like this. He's not being an alarmist, he's not trying to win elections. He's being a realist. They want to say it's Netanyahu, there's the issue. It's not.

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Special thanks to those special guests that helped us out today defining what's going on with the run. We're also looking at JD Vance's podcast, get an idea what he's going to be running on in 98, excuse me, in 28. Man, 98 seems like a long time ago. 28, as he becomes his own person, as he runs for president. Kamala Harris didn't.

She ran on Joe Biden's policies. I think J.D. Vance letting everybody know, even though it's not even the midterms yet, that I'm running as something different than President Trump. And I don't know how President Trump's going to handle that in the big picture. And of course, the rise of socialism around the country.

The other big issue that people talk about is AI, not only data centers should they built, but what about impersonating you? What about some of the fraud that is happening to you? What about some of the spam that pops up in your email every single day? How do you get rid of that? Who's tracking you?

How do they know what your interests are? Kim Camondo joins us now, radio personality and host of two daily radio shows and one weekend radio show on consumer technology. And if you are concerned about these things and so much more, especially when you see about Network anchors. being almost, almost scammed into giving up their banking information because they said it was an emergency.

Someone pretending to be your bank, knowing everything about you, and then saying that you've been hacked and your money's going out the door. He almost gave up more information that would have lost that money for good. Kim joins us now to talk about. Kim, is there anything have you run across things like that? Is there anything you can do to stop me from being scammed or being a target?

Well, I'll tell you, it's a whole big industry. It's called the data broker industry. It's a multi-billion dollar industry. And it's where your personal information is, once you think about it, like contained in a file. And that's your name, your address, your phone number, your age, your political affiliation, the medications that you take, how fast you drive.

Basically, and it's hard to believe this, Brian, but you have and I have and every American has for sale 3,000 different data points at any given moment. And anybody can buy this information. I mean, you don't have to sit there and justify yourself and say, you know, I'm a big company. You know, I'm an insurance company. I want to figure out, you know, where Brian drives and what he buys at the grocery store and things like that.

No, it's available for sale and literally for pennies on the dollar.

So People just see an idea, but how do they profile you? How does people get a profile of what your likes and dislikes are, where you can be targeted? You know, that's an interesting question. You know, how many of us have put an app on our phone and actually read the terms and conditions, right? We put an app on and we scroll down, down, down, down, down until we agree, and then that suddenly that app is on our phone.

You know, hidden inside those terms and conditions are things like, say, for example, you have an app that is telling you the lowest price of gas, right? Or you're trying to track your teenagers.

Well, hidden inside the terms and conditions of that app is the fact that anything that you do on your phone is going to be sold. And so it could be what you buy, it could be where you go, what time of day that you are actually traveling, your relatives, your contacts, whatever it may be. And so every time we pick up our phone, we're giving up more data points. And so it's really on us to figure out how to get us out of those databases. And so, like, I'm sure you know, like, there are tons of those free people search sites online, right?

I mean, you can type in somebody's name. And, you know, Typically, that there are these opt-out forms, but they're really hidden. I mean, they're not going to make it easy for you to take yourself out of it because if they do, then they're going to be losing money. And so, but if you ever want to do it, if you want to try it, is that you go into the terms and conditions and then you search for something that says opt-out. And typically, you have to fill out a form, maybe provide some type of government identification, maybe a driver's license or a passport.

And then, what happens though is you get yourself out of these databases and you have to do each one. And there are thousands of them, by the way. And then, what happens is the next time you pick up your phone, You're back in that database. And so it's really insidious when you think about it because you have all this personal information. And anybody can buy it, whether it's a spammer, a scammer.

And that's how the post that you were talking about, that's why they knew so much about him, is because they bought information about him, likely from a data broker. And then, of course, with AI, you can mimic people's voices, right? Yeah, and that's really crazy. I mean, people like you and I that are on, you know, hundreds of radio stations, our voices are just out there. And that's why you want to call your bank and you want to opt out of any type of voice authentication.

Because literally, it only takes three seconds of your voice to actually have it deep faked and cloned. And so whether it's a TikTok, it should be maybe it's just a family video, vacation, whatever it may be, just three seconds and your voice is gone.

So is that what Incogni does? And Cogni will go in and handle this stuff for you. Yeah, so what Incognito does, it's a company that will go into the data brokers and on your behalf, legally on your behalf, is take you out of these databases. And they do it, you know, it's kind of wild because when you first sign in, you're like, oh, they got me out of 50 databases, 100 databases. Like with me, they've made almost 2,800 requests to get me out of these databases.

And then once you're out of the databases, is that they make sure that you stay out of those databases. And then there's also these what they call data suppression lists. And so they'll put you on data suppression lists so that you won't be able, you're never going to be put back on that list. And then if you ever find a place online that you have your personal information, you just give them that URL and they actually put humans to work to do this. And then once you sign up for Incognito, you're going to notice that.

You're not getting any more spammy phone calls or spammy texts because you're not on the list. I mean, you know, they can't spam you if they can't find you. They can't scam you if you don't exist. And that's what incogni does. Kim Commando is with us now.

She's a consumer technology expert.

So there's a story right now in New Jersey. Mikey Sherrill's administration will now suspend enforcement of the new data law, looking out for people's back originally. But it looks like the administration realizes if they want to get people to go out and vote, they couldn't suspend people from going to mine your data.

So now she gave into politics.

So she's now allowing people to do that again. Over in New Jersey. Find out who you are and who you're going to vote for and try to change your mind or make sure you vote. And that's just it. I mean, you know, we don't really realize all the information that's available about us online and available through these data brokers and the ramifications that it may have.

I mean, you can be sitting there saying, like, you know, I wonder why my car insurance went up.

Okay. Unbeknownst to you is that the insurance companies bought your driving records and how fast you drive, how hard you take corners. Maybe you're driving at 2 o'clock in the morning in an area where you shouldn't be driving. And then that's how you just got that insurance increase. Interesting.

And if you want to get Incogni, where do you go? You can go to incogni.com or you can go to privacykim.com. I think, you know, obviously they are sponsoring your show, so they can go to incognito.com/slash Brian, I believe, is your particular URL.

So, Kim, 60% off. They have people, human beings, doing this to get rid of the bots. Right. Yes, exactly. I mean, you know, and it's kind of wild when you think about it is that you can't really have the bots do this.

I mean, I know like there's a there's somebody on TikTok who's saying like, oh, you could do this with an AI bot. The AI bot, once these data brokers figure out that an AI bot is doing it, then they shut down that wall.

Okay. So that's why you actually have to have humans doing this. And it's a big operation. I mean, Incogni is part of a $3 billion company. I mean, this is just not some little tech startup.

I mean, it's a company that you can trust to make sure that you will be taken care of and removed from these data broker sites.

Now, here sounds like a weird problem, but I have a situation where my bank is so sensitive to me being scammed or. False credit cards, I get my, I buy, I make a purchase. Out of an out of town, even if it's New Jersey, I live in New York, and they'll suspend my card. Because has your card been stolen? No, it hasn't.

I just so that is the biggest hassle too, because then I got to go through the whole dial up thing and hit the number and then hit in my claim number and just to get my card back online, and it's me. It's super annoying. And because I understand, I get the same thing too. And you're like, gosh, all I was doing was just going to Starbucks. It was Starbucks.

Yeah. And, but, you know, but the banks are now trying to clamp down on this fraud because it's so rampant and because the information is out there, and because our voices can be deep faked, and our IP addresses can be deep faked. I mean, it's it even goes down to if you're a person who goes to um maybe you want to get a rental for a vacation rental, and I, you and I are looking at the same property, and all of a sudden I see that it's available, but you see that it's not available. Same dates. The reason why is because behind the scenes, these vacation rental companies are buying the data from the data broker companies.

And they say, oh, well, you know, Kim Commando, you know, she doesn't drink any alcohol and she, you know, she doesn't drive late at night and she's not a party animal. And they look at you, Brian, they're like, oh man, like parte in the cité, right? And they're not going to let you rent that, but they'll let me rent it. This is all the information that is in this file about you that is just. Bought and sold all day long.

And a lot of people don't realize that it's, you know, they think like, oh, it's just my name and address. No, no, no. It's those 3,000 different data points. Think about that. 3,000 different data points about you that is being sold.

It's crazy, but incogni's definitely an option everyone should consider. If it's bothering you, if you have one of your email addresses, it's all spam. And you all wonder if you're going to click on something and then be followed for the rest of your life. Kim Commando, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

You betcha. Thank you, Brian. You got it. 1-866-408-7669. Back with your calls in just a moment.

Also, I'm going to be going over this socialism. There's been some pushback from the Democrats. Yes, some. Not a lot, but some. I'll explain.

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It's Brian Killmead. Former President Joe Biden just announced that he's written a book about his presidency that's coming out in November. Here's the cover. Yep, the book was written by a ghostwriter, Joe Biden. It's the second book Biden has written.

The first was The Odyssey. The book is about what Biden remembers from his presidency, so it's three pages. Mm-hmm. It's kind of a strange book because towards the end it starts being written by Kamala Harris. Where were those jokes?

Where were those jokes for four years when he was in the White House, right? To be fair, Fallon would occasionally make age jokes, but the other two did very well. We had some. Imagine if you ever led with that and just. That would have been legitimate.

Of course, SNL should have led with it. But I mean, where were those jokes for four years?

Now it's okay to make fun of Joe Biden, and now they've pushed back his book release. until after the midterms. They did, but did you see his book release video? Did you? We have it.

Did you have some of it? We do. Listen to this. Since I was the presidency, I've had a lot of people ask me, Joe, What have you been doing? I've been spending a lot of time with my family.

I'm dealing with a cancer diagnosis and I've been getting treatment and it's been going really well. I want to thank all those who offered their prayers and support and well wishes. This meant the world to me and to Jill. I've written a book about my time as president. It's called Promise Me America.

It's coming out in November and it's available for pre-order now. It's about the challenge we face as a nation, about the decisions I made and why I made them. Leading the country through COVID, rebuilding our economy, and restoring our democracy after the attack on January 6th. This is just absolutely terrible. And think about this is unless he's just arrogant and says, I'm leaving that there.

That's my take. No, no, no. It is a highly edited video. There's no way it was like one take. It's like.

It's very edited.

So he did How could his family let him do this? They need the money. I mean the question is What interviews will he do when the books come out? Like, that's where I think, how can they let him go?

Well, everyone on MSNBC, right? Yeah. So he'll do that. Morning Joe. Morning Joe kept propped him up.

He kept calling Morning Joe for advice and things like that.

So remember, he says this is the best version of the business. Even doing something live, though, I feel like. Will you do someone 60 minutes? I feel like Sunday morning would be the lighter, fluffier place to go. But I know, I mean, I think We were talking about this earlier before the show, saying the right thing would be for the film to be like, We're not doing interviews because it's not going to go well.

Well, I think it's it's terrible. I mean, I was curious to see Jill Biden's book numbers because she opened up strong, right? Because everyone buys stuff for her, you know, and then after a while, There's nobody who was curious about the book that listened to her interviews and said, I got to get that book. I mean, that really surprises you? Yeah, because Kamala Harris ended up selling a lot of books.

And I thought that was the least interesting book. I remember thinking to myself, I'm not interested at all. I read the following. I go, there's no way this is going to sell. It ended up selling pretty good.

I mean, she promoted it for nine months, and she'll go to major DNC fundraisers, and everyone buys it. But I was shocked at that. But I think he has less to say. I mean, and bottom line, if he was being... Honest?

He's mad at Obama. He's mad at George Clooney. You know, he's. Of course, he's mad at Trump and all these guys, but everybody on the left, everybody abandoned him. Who stood by him?

Nobody stood by him. But I mean, the question is: does he even remember any of it anymore? I mean, you saw him when Jill Biden was on the view and he stood up and started talking. I mean,. That was, it was painful going on.

I know. They just, I mean, it's the people say it's elder abuse. They just let them go. They're done with him. They're just like, whatever happens, happens.

I can't make any more money off them. Jill Biden did her book and embarrassed, you know, basically embarrassed him by saying, I thought he had a stroke. And I've never seen him like that, which is a flat out lie. Other people in his office have seen him like that. They all came out and spoke about it, but they all did it after the fact.

I laugh now when James Carville comes out and says Joe Biden did more damage. We have that. When Joe Biden did more damage than anybody else that he knows?

So Yeah, here it is. Yeah, let's listen. The reason a Democratic Party is in a shape. Huh. The computer doesn't want to hear more.

Here's what Jim Carville said. You ready for this? The reason the Democratic Party is in the shape it is in is because Joe Biden wouldn't get out until July 21st of the election year. All right? Joe Biden gotten out in October 2023.

We would have had a Democratic president. Don't kid yourself.

Now, a couple of things. I am sure I could queue up. James Carville in June, May, March, or April saying that he's going to win reelection. Everybody was saying that he was fine. And when you brought it up, you know, you'd have, oh, look at Donald Trump.

Donald Trump says things.

Sometimes he talks in a circle, and Donald Trump is losing, and Donald Trump is. Oh, Donald Trump is it, whatever. Every time you brought up Joe Biden, the thing that happened to Joe Biden, if people are going to write this story, here's going to be the deal. Because of the Dobbs ruling, that'll overturn Roe V Wade. It wasn't a bloodbath, a political bloodbath in the midterms.

In fact, they lost the house, just barely lost the house. And the Senate got uh lost when Trump got in.

So he was able to have the Senate loss the House, but just barely. But he said to himself, wait, I bucked history. Look how well I did.

So I'm going to stay in. My party does like me. I did pass all this bipartisan thing, the gun control, the rescue plan, all that money that we had poured in after COVID.

So he did three things. He goes, they want me. I'm going to stay. And nobody pushed him out. Until it became so obvious, and then the meltdown on the debate that everyone came out and told the truth.

One other thing about Republicans: if you have to go very far to find critics of Donald Trump, who Who do you have?

Now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is a critic of Donald Trump.

Now, John Cornyn is a critic of Donald Trump. Bill Cassie is a critic of Donald Trump. Tom Massey is a critic of Donald Trump. I can name all these people. You know who was critical of Joe Biden?

John Fetterman. And then you have someone like Joe Manchin say, Yeah, Joe, I don't even recognize his cabinet. All these people that you hired are far left wing. That's all we got. And you had cinema?

And Joe Manchin pushed back against his ridiculous rescue package that was once $4 trillion of just unmatched. Without any matching cuts, four trillion dollars worth of spending would have destroyed the whole economy. But no one ever stood up to it. We'll talk about it. Brian Kilmeicho.

Don't forget, see me on tour. BrianKilme.com. All fall, all fall. I'm talking about St. Louis, Missouri.

I'm talking about Clearwater. I'm talking about Red Bank, New Jersey, and Long Island, New York. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. All right, from Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world.

It's the Brian Kilmeat show. This hour, we'll do a simulcast with Stuart Varney, Josh Krashow, Braves Inside Washington, the politics, the confirmation hearings. Mark Tiesson standing by. I just watched Senator Tom Cotton, we'll bring this back shortly, contradict what J.D. Vance said about there are forces in the Israeli government trying to undermine the deal, the MOU that was put in place.

Because they want to have perpetual war with Iran. It's forcical that Iran wants that Israel wants perpetual war. Yeah, there's always fringe people, AOC, the squad. If people look at the squad and think that's American policy from the outside, if you're in Thailand or Bangladesh and don't understand American politics, okay, you made a mistake. But when you're the Vice President of the United States and you're going to say there are elements in the Israeli government trying to undermine the MOU.

Because they want to continue to have war with Iran? I hope it's being disingenuous. I hope it's not really what he thinks. Big three. Number five.

Yeah. These people are so stupid. Is there a solution to beat Republicans? To run against Republicans? No.

The solution is to be Democrats. You are part of the problem because you're a idiot.

Socialism thriving on the left as same old Dems try pushing back.

Some old Dems try pushing back. But more than that, they get in line. This is why Americans, not just the GOP, must unite. I'll explain. Number two.

There are people, you know, you see Mike Pence, who's sort of a super hawk, my predecessor, who are super hawkish in the American system, who have attacked the deal, and frankly, in some ways, have tried to derail the deal. What is your actual argument? VP Vance rants on the Joe Rogan podcast that critics of the MOU are just warmongers, where Israel rips into them saying that they are the problem. Or he admits his administration failed with the Epstein files. Is this good and healthy, or is he starting to diverge from the Trump team as he forms his own 28 team?

And is anyone on the left on Israel's team? We'll discuss it. Number one. I mean, game is on now. The administration realized they're not going to meet their objective of opening up the straits or solving the nuclear weapons program by negotiations.

Five straight days of intense bombings and an expansion of the targets have Iran absorbing tremendous damage, but the U.S. has yet to control the strait. Why I think Trump ramps up before anything comes down. Mark Tienston joins us now. Mark, do you agree with that?

Do you think things will ramp up before they come down? Absolutely, I think they will. Look, I think the President has learned from this experience that there's a reason why for 47 years no American President has been able to make a deal with these people, at least a good deal. And he tried. He did.

God bless him. He gave them every opportunity to negotiate. He gave them every opportunity. And what's blown up the MOU is not Israel. It's not neocons.

It's the Iranians. They don't want to cut a deal. Donald Trump has two red lines. His red line is that they have to give up their nuclear program and they have to open the strait. And they're not willing to do any of those things.

So, you know, they were never serious about negotiating. They're just tapping him along to try and stop the bombing. And, you know, truth be told, J.D. Vance got suckered in this thing. And he goes on Joe Rogan, and he, he just, this guy is the master of tearing down straw men.

You know, he says, well, the neocons or warmongers, whatever the heck it is, they want to send 150,000 troops into Iran. There's literally nobody. Not one person. There's not a single person has advocated sending 150,000 troops. They have no objective.

There's a very clear objective. We were. two weeks away from finishing the target list. You finish the target list. And then you declare victory, you impose the blockade, and you open the strait.

And uh by force. And then you arm and train the Iranian people to overthrow their government. It's there's a very clear objective. Everybody the people he it's just it's such weak argument to to to just downplay your opponents by creating false arguments about what they're asking for or saying they have no plan. It's it's it's just you know it's it's it's it's I I quite frankly I'm find it stunning.

So you listen to the whole podcast? No, I did not. I've listened to some of the excerpts of the worst parts. And then the other thing is, like, you know, he treats. Israel, like it's some master master manipulator like that.

What are they manipulating Donald Trump? You know, is that what they're doing? Is that that they they're they're that Israel is somehow undermining Donald Trump or or making him do things that he doesn't want to do? You know, that I just I just find the whole the whole thing kind of Here is JD Vance yesterday, cut eleven. And then can I just say one other thing about this?

Because there are people, you know, you see Mike Pence, who's sort of a superhawk, my predecessor. Who say this? There are people who are super hawkish in the American system who have attacked the deal, and frankly, in some ways, have tried to derail the deal. And what I always say to those people is: what is your proposal? What is your actual argument?

What is your argument? What is your proposal?

Well, first of all, people criticize the deal because he brought Donald Trump a really bad deal.

So it was, you know, a $350 billion fund to, which is twice the size of the Marshall Plan to help the Iranian regime, a promise of non-interference in internal affairs.

So we would be committed by agreement to not support the Iranian people against their government. I mean, I could just go on about what the deal is.

Well, what's our plan? I just told it to you. We stopped the war at the 20-yard line. We had a battle plan. Finish the battle plan.

Execute the battle plan that we had from the beginning. We've now learned that the Iranians are not interested in cutting a deal, at least the kind of deal that Donald Trump would accept. And so finish the battle plan. Here's the element. Here's the bullet point that is controversial.

And for the minute I read it, and it was read to me before it was released. I go, are you kidding me? The Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts. For the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for sixty days. From the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa.

Later, it says Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultan of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Ramuz. That's what Iran's pointing to. It said, I told you we're doing this. We're setting up the infrastructure now. I want everyone to come by my side of the strait.

And when they don't, they decide to shoot at you. And when you do that, we try to shoot at them. And now we put a blockade in place and we've bombed them for five straight days. I could look at the fundamentals of this and say that started what we're experiencing.

So here's the thing I don't understand is Donald Trump in Ankara said the MOU is dead.

So why is Don why is J. D Vance complaining that people are undermining the MOU? Yeah, that's true. The policy of the President of the United States is that the MOU is dead. And so, you know, why you know why I you know, I get it.

He, you know, he sort of has egg on his face. It was a bad deal. It didn't work out. He tried I mean, he he it and so he I guess he's defensive about it. But he's lashing out at people who are criticizing him and turned out to be right.

And you know, one of them's you. One of them's Roger Wicker, one of them's Tom Cotton.

So we just played that clip. Dana Perino played it for Tom Cotton 10 minutes ago. Here's what the senator said. No, Dana, I'm not aware of any intelligence about a secret influence operation to try to change American public opinion on negotiating under the Memorandum of Understanding. To the extent American public opinion has changed, I suspect it's because of what Donald Trump says.

That Iran's leaders are revolutionary fanatics, they're scum, they're sick, they're evil, and last week they started randomly shooting up ships and their neighbors again. Yeah, it's simple. Don't blame Israel for that. Yeah. So here's the thing.

In Donald Trump's first term, the left was screaming Russia, Russia, Russia.

Now suddenly J.D. Vance is screaming Israel, Israel, Israel. It's the same thing. It's this fake foreign influence campaign that somehow manipulated Donald Trump and cooperated with the Trump administration to steal the election in 2016.

Now he's got a conspiracy. He's got the same that was a complete conspiracy theory that had no value like that. And now he's promoting a conspiracy theory that Israel is manipulating Donald Trump. Yeah, here it is. It is the same thing.

Cut 10, listen. Beyond a shadow of a doubt that there have been people within the Israeli government who are trying to Like, actually, shift us away from that policy because they want to continue the military campaign. There are some people within their system we know beyond a shadow of a doubt who are. manipulating and trying to change American public opinion to keep the war going on indefinitely. Again, not towards any objective, but just indefinitely.

Wow, I didn't see those last lines. That is unbelievable. Why do you think Israel would like to pour their economic dollars into a military campaign that never ends? What would be the advantage of that for Israel? It's Israel, Israel, Israel.

That's the new slogan, I guess. Israel wants to defend itself and they want to finish the job. And again, nobody's talking about indefinite campaigns. Again, it's all strawmen he's tearing down. There's no Israeli conspiracy.

There's nobody advocating for 150,000 troops. There's nobody advocating for an indefinite military campaign. It's just none of it is true. And it would be more effective to actually try and take on the arguments of the people that people are actually making. And dealing with the reality of what Israel is trying to do.

Israel is our best ally, certainly in the Middle East, and probably one of the best. If you look at how some of our European allies behaved during the war, perhaps one of our best allies in the entire world. And I don't understand why the Vice President of the United States is attacking them this way.

So let's look at the actual military campaign.

Well I mean the goal is to open up the straight. Is this military operations through the air? Are they beginning to do that? Beginning to open up. The open up the area and free it from drone activity.

Yes, we can do that. We have the capability of opening the straight. And I think Donald Trump, quite frankly, is right in wanting to charge something for it. I mean, I think 20% toll is pretty high at that. But I mean, what do they charge for the best for trips to go through the Panama Canal?

I think it's a million dollars a ship or something like that. This is not a toll, what he's talking about. What he's talking about is there is a hostile regime that is attacking international shipping, and he is the United States military is going to go and defend. International shipping against a hostile regime. That's not the same as Iran charging a toll and doing a protection racket saying it would be a shame if something happened to your beautiful ship.

Give us $2 million or something like that. It's a completely different thing. It would be completely different than people charging tolls in other straits. We're providing a protection service to that. And there's nothing wrong with asking American taxpayers to be reimbursed in some way.

Now, maybe it's through trade deals, maybe it's for something else. There's lots of ways to skin the cap, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with charging a fee and having American taxpayers be made whole for that. Especially since it's not our ships most of the time. Let's talk about Ukraine. The president of the United States wondering if there's he's going to people are wondering if he's going to sign the sanctions bill that Senator Lindsey Graham wanted to see done, and that would put NASA sanction on anyone doing trade deals with Russia, and that would be.

India And that would include China and of course Iran, CUT 25. Do you want this Russia sanctions bill signed within the next week or two and will you sign it?

Well I know that Lindsay wanted it very badly. I think they may be adding Iran to it. They're going to add Iran which is a very big thing if they did that. They may add Hezbollah too. Just put them if you do business with Esmeralda.

So we're looking at that. But they're they're seriously thinking and this is in honor of Lindsay. This was his thing. He wanted this more than any other thing. You know, you know how he felt.

And uh there's a good chance that it gets done. But they'd like to add Iran and they'd like to add Hezbollah to it. That's what I'm hearing. And if that is the secondary sanctions on China, India, Europe.

So what do you think's going to happen? Do you think we those sanctions need to be passed? Yeah, I think it's going to pass overwhelmingly, and I think Donald Trump's going to sign it, and good for him. He's right. Lindsey Graham was right, and Donald Trump is right.

And look, I mean, Trump, by the way, I mean, you know, this is strengthening sanctions. Donald Trump has already put a lot of sanctions on Russia for what they're doing in Ukraine. He's put oil and gas sanctions, which Biden never did. He's seized shadow tankers, which Biden never did. And right now, we're doing great stuff in terms of helping the Ukrainians target Russian energy infrastructure.

We're giving them exquisite intelligence on actually specifically where to hit, according to news reports, where to hit the refineries so they can't bring them back online.

So we're putting a lot of pressure at that. Look, I think we're starting to see, we've spent. You know, a year and a half now, trying to negotiate with the Iranians, trying to negotiate with the Russians, and they just don't. Come around. And so I think you have to coerce them and you have to put pressure on them.

And I think that's what we're doing. All right. Right now, with Ukraine, they're on the offensive, but they let go of their defense minister, a 35-year-old drone genius, and there's massive nationwide protests. And you might not. Do you have any idea why he would fire this guy?

I do not know why. I think it's a really bad idea. The last thing Ukraine needs right now is internal turmoil going on at that. They finally got the upper hand. They finally got the United States.

But look, to some extent, their internal governmental things don't matter to us all that much. If I mean there's corruption all over the world, if there's corruption in the Ukrainian government, as long as American taxpayer dollars are not going to them, then that's not really our issue. We're selling the weapons to them.

So if we want to sell the weapons, then that doesn't affect us.

So I think what the genius of what Donald Trump did in moving from giving aid to Ukraine to selling weapons to Ukraine is one, he's creating a sustainable model for us to have defense cooperation with them. Two, he's completely disarmed the anti-Ukraine right because they've got nothing to complain about because it's not U.S. tax dollars going in. And so when things like this happen, it's like, okay, I mean, that's not good, but it's not, you know, nobody's stealing American taxpayer dollars.

So, you know, why, you know, we just, we're trying to, we're doing it because it's in our interest to help the Ukrainian nation survive and not let the not let Putin win. Even though you're part of the right that just wants perpetual war, I did like having one, Mar T Sin. And 150,000 troops. Yes. I didn't realize that.

I got to go dig up my op-ed where I wrote that in the phone. I'm going to dig up the one I saved it. I probably cut it out, so I'll help you with that. I'm sure you did. Because you have a scrapbook of all my columns, right?

Right. And if mostly it's about fighting forever with taxpayer dollars. That's right. And mostly you cite JD as as your motivational tool. It Exactly.

All right. Too bad Mike Pence was the guy. You and Mike Pence, I guess, are on the same page. Mark Thiessen, thanks so much. Take it a moment.

Strong opinions backed by hard facts. Get the truth behind the spin with Brian Kilmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. My long-term concern has been with.

with the Democratic Party, as I am a member of that, is that our party is going to back away and turn their back to Israel. If our party ever becomes and just make it official as the the anti-Israel party, you know, that's when I would leave because that's been a moral clarity for me.

So that is Senator John Fetterman, moral clarity, because he's a moderate Democrat. And working with Senator McCormick on defense and everything else that he's doing for Pennsylvania and data centers and fracking, because it's good for the country. And then, when he finds out, 103 members of his House, of the Democratic members of the House, voted against Israeli aid. 103. It was 37 in 2024.

That was a lot, and it was zero two years prior to that. He says: if that happens again, I'm out. But Republicans are waiting for him anyway. Brian Kill Me Chip. Josh Crash Hour next.

Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I wasn't happy about people saying, let's spend a whole lot of money challenging Democrats. You want to do that? Do that.

But don't think that that's something that is good for this year. Do it a year when we have the luxury of having a majority. But not when we're trying to, but you can't. Gain. You can't gain by losing.

You know, people were saying, oh, Nancy Bullis came out against socialism. No, she didn't. She said, just don't do it this year. Come out against it next year. If we have the majority.

So to me, you stand for nothing. Also, she voted to not give Israel any funds after spending most of her career fighting for Israel.

Now it's not politically advantageous to say that, so she'll go along with the herd. Joining us now is Josh Krashauer, Fox News radio political analyst and editor-in-chief of the Jewish Insider. Hey, Josh, are you shocked by 103 Democrats? Voting against sending aid to Israel? I'm not shocked, but it tells you just how far to the left, even some of the mainstream figures in the party.

You mentioned Nancy Pelosi, but anyone from like a Jake Auchincloss to Maggie Goodlander, a lot of like moderate pro-Israel Democrats felt pressure from the far left and put out all these mealy-mouthed statements about why they're cutting off, why they're voting to cut off aid to Israel. And that's the tide in the Democratic Party. And make no mistake, I mean, it's very interesting, Brian, when you're hearing people like Pelosi or maybe like a Rahm Emanuel talking about Democratic socialists. They're talking about how they're not helping them win elections. They're not running in swing districts.

But there's a moral and principled component to the subject as well, just how extreme their views are. And it is very, very telling that you're not even hearing someone who's a moderate like Rahm Emanuel confronting the extremism of what these DSA candidates and what the DSA movement actually. Stands for abolishing prisons, defunding the police, defunding Israel. These are positions that would have been beyond the pale in our politics. And as you saw in that vote, which was a vote to defund, to end funding to Israel, you had about half of the Democratic Party, including folks who were once loyal allies of the Jewish state.

Plain politics, facing pressure from the left-wing base, and turning on one of their strongest allies. Yeah, but how about I mean, even Nancy Pelosi, she wasn't saying socialism's bad. She said not yet. I mean, what does she stand for? She knows socialism doesn't work.

Well, I mean, she's 111 years old. What is she waiting for to make a principled stand?

Well, you you're not and but that that is another quote and soundbite that you just played, Brian. There's just a substantive argument against socialism, and the fact that either she's choosing not to make it or doesn't maybe agree with it, it tells you a heck of a lot on where the party's ideological winds are blowing. And it tells you a lot about who's probably going to have the edge in the 2028 presidential nomination fight. It's the AOCs. It's the people that are trying to sound the most extreme.

pandering to the most far-left forces in the party. And, you know, if you can't actually say defunding the police is bad, we don't want those lawmakers represented in our party. If you can't say someone like Avila Chevalier, who is a self-avowed communist, according to her own words, is not welcome in the party and her views should be rebuked, you've got a big problem. Because if it's just about political strategy, you're never going to actually get anywhere. And for someone like Nancy Pelosi, who has been seen as such a strong leader during her time as speaker, for her not to even.

Confront and engage on these issues, it tells you a whole lot of where the party is. Yeah, here's Carville. Listen to James Carville, he does do the right thing, cut 33.

Okay. These people are so stupid. Is there a solution to beat Republicans, to run against Republicans? No. The solution is to be Democrats.

Like they're part of the problem. No, you are part of the problem because you're a f ⁇ ing idiot.

So, look, I think he's always unhinged, and this is another example. But fundamentally, I thought he would just be one of many saying that. You know, Tom Swasey, I guess, said it, and some House Democrat, Republican Democrats came out and said, I'm a capitalist. You know, and I hear Josh Gottheimer alarmed about where his party's heading, him speak out, but be marginalized. But I'm shocked there aren't more people like that.

Well, we've seen this movie before, Brian. In 2020, there you had that same activist wing of the party that took over everyone's imagination. And you had presidential debates in the 2020 primary where you had, other than Joe Biden and maybe one or two others, the Democrats like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Henders, and even a whole lot of the quote-unquote more mainstream candidates like Kamala Harris were endorsing open borders. We're endorsing subsidized health insurance for illegal immigrants. We're endorsing defunding the police in these debates.

And it's gotten even worse. The ideological movement has even gotten further to the left. That was why Kamala Harris lost the 2024 campaign. The biggest reason she lost was she was seen as too ideologically to the left. The famous ad, the Trump campaign ran against her when she was talking about trans activism to the ACLU.

That is why she lost appeal with a lot of swing voters in the 2024 election. And Democrats are making, you know, the midterms, we'll see the impact of this in the midterms. It's a different dynamic. But in 2028, if the Democrats go in this direction, and it looks like they are, that's why James Carville is so apoplectic. He's seen this move before.

He's seen how damaging it has been in the recent past when Democrats embrace a whole slew of these radical exotic ideas. And the average American is not going to buy it, and it's going to carry a political cost. Yeah, I mean, if you right now look at the party, if you look at the Senate, in Georgia, Osoff is outraising Collins 20 times. In North Carolina, biggest chance for a flip, the best pickup opportunity. Perhaps Cooper outraised Mike Watley 8-2, $8.2 million to $2.9 million.

In Texas, Tallarico, off the charts, $21.5 million compared to $1.8 for Ken Paxton. But listen to some of the things that Tallarico is still saying. Cut 35. I'm worried about what this senseless border wall would do to our tourism here in the region, what it would do to our local economies, that we should be supporting and growing and cultivating, not attacking with political useless border walls. Look, I I've everybody in Texas was alarmed at what happened.

They were using their own money to build their own wall and set up their own uh razor wire wall. And this guy's saying this, the wall's the problem, it's gonna hurt tourism. Yeah, so I would caution that money does not equal messages. You can have all the money, and we saw this in Texas, by the way, in 2018 with Beto O'Rourke, who set all kinds of records with Democratic fundraising and lost in that race, or Jamie Harrison running against the late Senator Graham, who raised record amounts of money and lost badly. You have these national liberal donors that get drawn to certain candidates.

It doesn't mean they're the most electable, but it does mean that they really dislike back. They don't really want to compete in Texas.

So look, Osoff, I think, is an exception. Ossoff is in pole position in that Georgia race. But a lot of these big donors... I actually, we've actually seen sort of almost a negative connection between who raises the most money in the Democratic Party and who's more electable, because it's these national, very progressive donors that don't know anything about politics. And they're giving to the most liberal people who often can't win and are actually pushing some of these candidates further to the left in the swing.

And purple states that they're competing in. One of the most interesting things about this race, it makes you think, is these data centers. You do a lot of the polling and the AI polling on younger people. They're not all in for AI. But in my view, for the good of the country, the world is in for AI.

And either we can win it, we can take a back seat and say, I'm afraid I'm going to lose my job, or afraid I'm not going to be able to understand it. And I was shocked. but I shouldn't be, that New York Governor Hokul came out And said this about banning data centers again in upstate New York who missed out on fracking, missed out on all that revitalization that Pennsylvania and Ohio got because they said it was bad for the environment, which was not true.

Now, this, Cut 51. These data centers require millions of gallons of water. straining the local supplies. And when powered by fossil fuels, they drive up our carbon footprint, and they drive up costs for local ratepayers. And I refuse to let those costs be passed on to New Yorkers who already paid too much for their utility bills.

There's already an executive order saying they've got to build up their own power source, they're going to build a data center. But all the jobs, the pipe fitters, the steam the plumbers, the electricians, all those jobs are not are going to go by the boards and just go to other states. Yeah, look, I mean, she's reading some of the polling that on paper is turning against AI and expressing concern about very NIMBY, not in my backyard. I don't want this data center to be next door to me. But it is very short-sighted to try to set your state and, frankly, set the country back when we're competing against China and a lot of our adversaries in this very important AI arms race.

There are many smart ways to deal with AI and manage and regulate AI. Banning data centers is the most kind of maybe the easiest political thing to do, but it's actually the worst policy in terms of actually doing something about the, you know, allowing us to take advantage of the good of AI and regulate the things that could be excessive down the road.

So that's very, I think, short-sighted. I mean, look, she's reading polling showing a lot of opposition to the data centers. The reality is that she's talking about the environmental regulations and why we shouldn't have data centers. centers being built. Make the US at a disadvantage against China when it comes to the AI race because of environmental issues with data centers.

It's not going to be a politically compelling argument in the long term. Yeah, thanks, Josh. And by the way, for the DNC, they owe $18 million. They've raised $15 million overall.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. We're back. We'll be on FBN shortly, and we'll talk a little World Cup. I don't know if you guys have seen the game yesterday, but Spain looked unbelievable and beating France 2-0.

And then Argentina had to come back late, but just dominate. You knew they were getting two goals. As soon as England dropped into the defense and took Harry Kane and put him into midfield, I thought, wow, do they have a way to counter-attack? Are they just looking for a quick counter? Instead, they watched the team just clear the ball out when they could, depending on their goalie to make big saves.

Let's listen to Stuart Varney. It is 10:51 Eastern. That means it's time for Brian Kilby. All right, Brian, Argentina beat England 2-1 yesterday, a couple of late-game goals. Spain and Argentina face off in the final this Sunday.

Who do you expect to win? And by the way, let's not talk about England's game yesterday. Let's not mention England. Really? You got to the semifinals?

You got to the final four, and you want to bring up England.

Okay. Well, it was a we the wrong tactics were played yesterday. I mean, they disappeared in the second half of the game. It was crazy. I can't believe the coaches, some of the best coaches in the world, would go into a defensive shell with no counterattack.

No counterattack. Harry Kane dropped into midfield. They dropped six back after going up 1-0, as if to say, I can't believe we scored. Let's not blow it. And if you give Argentina that many chances, of course they're going to score.

It's just a matter of time. Yeah, that's right.

So who so who wins Sunday? But right now, Spain comes in the favor, and they should be. I mean, you have the Cardiac kids in Argentina coming back. They beat Egypt. Really, I mean, if that other third goal was really a goal, they shouldn't have won.

Cape Verde gave them everything they wanted and more, but they prevailed twice. And then trailing 1-0 to England after 58th minute, they were able to pull that out.

So they have not been dominant. Having been like, how do we score in these? When I look at Spain, I see dominance. I mean, they were clearly better than France, the number one team in the world, who they just beat in the European championships. But they look so confident, lethal offensively, steady defensively.

I think they've only lit up one goal the entire tournament. But Argentina's got this intangible quality that only world champions have. And they got this guy, Messi, who can study a game and figure out a game. He could be invisible for. 80 minutes.

You give them one moment. And everything changes.

So I would say Spain comes in. I'm thinking they win 3-1. But with Messi, who knows? I think Spain wins, but I don't know about the score. We'll see.

I'm going to shift to politics for a second, Brian. There was a dramatic vote in the House Wednesday. It shows a big shift in the Democrats' relationship with Israel. 103 House Democrats voted to cut all military and humanitarian ties aid to Israel. Cut everything.

I think the Democrats have developed a severe anti-Semitism problem inside their party, and I think it's going to be a real problem for them. What say you? I mean, think about that. And then you have that vote, 103 Democrats in the House vote against Hakeem Jeffries, their so-called leader, who said, vote to keep MAID. But now he has a heavy Orthodox Jewish crowd in his district.

So I guess he was worried about that. And he also thought, of course, we're going to support Israel. But he looked around and 103 people, 103 Democrats didn't.

Now, Rob Emmanuel, what was he doing last week, the so-called moderate? He went to Israel to say, we're not going to support Israel.

So he knows whatever he's seeing internally, you cannot be the Democratic nominee. And support Israel, which prompted Senator Fetterman to come out and say: if that's the case, I'm out of this party.

So that'll be a big deal. And they are living off being anti-Israel. Think about this, Stuart. They get attacked October 7th. They, according to John Spencer of the West Point Military College have gone out more surgical than even we did in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill the terrorists and not hurt the people in Gaza, which they never wanted to do.

And now they're vilified around the world. They attack Hezbollah back and they're vilified around the world. Hamas continues to attack and they're vilified around the world. And Iran is looked at in a better light than Israel and America. You got to be kidding me.

I mean, something's really going screwy here, but it's not going to get me involved. I know who the good guys are, and it's Israel. Yeah, and so do I. It's Israel. Brian, thank you very much indeed.

Straighten it out. You got it. I'll try, I'll do my best. Still ahead. Yeah.

So I'm uh you know I'm amazed how much This is becoming a big deal. about Israel, but also amazed that on most channels they don't care. They don't really care. If we stopped having relationships with the UK or Canada, it was a huge deal when things relations are strained. But with Israel, they're like, of course, what took so long?

Which I don't get in the most difficult region. They're the democracy. We're the one with history fighting with them. I think we're going to need them to finish off. Arun in a hurry, and I hope we do use them.

So here's the president of the United States. Talking about how he wants to win this thing. And he's not going to back off. And he knows who the problem is. Cut nine.

I wanted to ask you, Mr. President, about Iran and on Iran. You came to the conclusion that you couldn't negotiate with the IRGC. Does that mean that you might wipe them out like you did ISIS? Yeah, it does.

We will see what's happening. We received a call just as I was coming here that they want to meet. They always want to meet. But uh you know This should have been done by other presidents for many years, for 47 years, but really a lot longer than that. And it wasn't And I never understood why, but now I do.

Because if you're not going to do it the way I'm doing it, you're never going to make a deal with them. Yeah, because you got to beat them senseless and let them know they have no opportunity because self-preservation. For the government, not the people. They don't care about the people, obviously. They keep hanging people from their prisons and they have no problem killing people that ride in their streets.

So that is true. And the question is, not Mr. President Trump, why did you choose this war? The question is, why did other Presidents not choose to fight this war? How many other hostages had to be killed?

How much uh should they circumvent our allies and hurt our bases? Keep mom, they're rocketing our allies, Gulf allies, and our bases in the region. I mean, that's how they act. They're going for our bases and we're going for them.

So we have to finish them off. I think the President's making the right move in doing so. The question is, it's so obvious his vice president's not into it. How long does the President tolerate that? Sends him out to do the deal.

It's a terrible deal. That it's not worth the paper it's written on.

So now he's living with it, and now we're going to fight it. But I do think the President's made the right decision for five straight days to continue to bomb them and dismantle them. At the fundamentally, what they're doing is taking one of our premier allies and making them less lethal every single day. I think that's a positive. Hey, go to BrianKillme.com.

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This hour, I'm going to be joined by Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery. He's over in Kiev. Just saw him on Fox News channel. Senator John Eusted working hard to keep that seat. He replaced JD Vance, and now he wants to, he's in a tough fight against Gerard Brown.

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So let's get to the big three. Number three. These people are so stupid. Is there a solution to beat Republicans? To run against Republicans?

No. The solution is to bait Democrats. You are part of the problem because you're a idiot.

Socialism thriving on the left, there's some old-time demed pushback, as you just heard, but more get in line. This is why America, not just the GOP, needs to unite, I will explain. Number two. There are people, you know, you see Mike Pence, who's sort of a super hawk, my predecessor, who are super hawkish in the American system, who have attacked the deal, and frankly, in some ways, have tried to derail the deal. What is your actual argument?

What's your argument is you did a terrible deal. How about that, Vice President Vance, as he rants on Joe Rogan, that critics of the MOU are just warmongers? Or Israel, as he rips his own administration for the Epstein files? Is this good and healthy, or is he starting to diverge from the Trump team as he forms his own 28 team? Number one.

I mean, game is on now. The administration realized they're not going to meet their objective of opening up the straits or solving the nuclear weapons program by negotiations. Five straight days of intense bombings on an expansion of targets have Iran absorbing tremendous damage, but the U.S. has yet to control the strait. Why I think Trump ramps up before anything comes down.

I'll bring that to Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, you senior director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation for the Freedom of Defense of Democracies. Admiral, welcome back. I believe the president's going to ramp up before he comes down. Do you think so too? And what do you think of the targets he's picked so far in this internation on this fight?

Well, thank you for having me, Brian. And I definitely think he should ramp up before he ramps down, because we're going to need to continue to impose cost, particularly in that area 75 miles, you know, from Bushir to Bandur Abbas, 75 miles either side of the Strait of Hormuz center line, 50 to 75 kilometers deep in Iran. We've been working that over for five nights. We've got to continue to work it over so that it is very difficult to launch drones or missiles or assemble small boats for putting in the water. Because what you want to do is create, is minimize the risk, minimize the number of effects that are coming out towards ships that are doing the southern transit scheme, you know, closest to Oman.

And so that U.S. Navy shipping and aircraft from overhead and from the fringes can reasonably protect those ships without putting our ships in unrealistic danger. To do that, you're going to have to continue to strike. I don't believe Iran, after 47 years, is going to negotiate with us in any kind of good faith short of being punished like this. And of course, I know we'll talk about it, but you combine this with a blockade to get maximum effect.

So he's also expanding targets. To the 388th Brigade. It's located around 200 kilometers from the Iranian coast. Most of the strikes in July have been concentrated around its southern coast. The Artesh has conducted operations throughout the war and most recently claimed on July 15th, that's yesterday, that it conducted drone strikes targeting U.S.

forces in and around Jordan.

So they're trying to find where this stuff is emanating from.

So they're opening up the target list.

So this is regular Army, right? 308th Brigade, that's regular, or is that RAGC? No, that's correct. That's Artesh, and it's regular army. And look, I mean, I'm not sure with this president, I'd go bragging online about attacking America or its allies and not expect that the next evening you're gonna get some steel because we have all these things targeted.

And we've spent the last two months creating new target decks based on what survived our original targeting, 14,000 targets, and making sure, you know, and seeing where we were wrong or where we missed. And so we're ready to go back at those again. Like, as you said there, I would concentrate on the southern targets. But if there's stuff that's clearly hitting out at our allies, we should strike that as well. I expect this to go up to 300 to 400 strikes a day over the next week.

I don't think we'll stay down around 140. At one point, will we be in the not too just like within a week, be able to tell merchant ships we can protect you? Do you think within a week? I'm not saying we're going to win in a week or they're going to quit. I'm not saying that, but is it going to be to the point where we okay, we got your back here?

I think that we'll tell them that it's a manageable risk within about a week. whether they accept that manageable risk and start going through at the numbers we want, which is about seven or eight large carriers a day, which is fourteen to sixteen million barrels, two million barrels. We had about one hundred though. We had about one hundred prior to the war, right? We got we had about uh twenty million barrels a day.

So about ten ships a day going through. One hundred ships overall, that's LNG fertilizers, all kinds of other things. But ten of these really big ones. Not all ships are definitely not all ships are created equal in this transit plan. We really want those two million barrel a day large crude ships and the large LNG ships going through.

Yeah. So that'll be an interesting point. But you know what, Admiral, it's always easy to get caught up in the day-to-day and not realize the significance of what's happening. We watched for the longest time and you studied. This was what you were doing for a living.

What happened? What are we how are we going to handle Iran? How are we going to keep Iran in line? What are they going to do next to Israel, to our neighbors? How are they going to circumvent us in Iraq?

And we've done nothing. Until this president took out Salomaney, then bombed out their sites in 2025, and now is hitting them again. We really never really hit them before outside Reagan blowing up a platform, right? Yeah, that's right.

So we did do strikes in 1980. Six, and again in 88, 89, as you said, under President Reagan, in response to the tanker war and in response to attacks on mining that affected U.S. shipping. But you're absolutely right. In fact, we At the time, that was our biggest naval shipping exchange since World War II.

It was greatly surpassed by what happened during the 40 days this spring. But look, this is a 47-year authoritarian regime that has killed a thousand American soldiers in combat, killed 500 NATO soldiers, killed 30,000 of its own people. This is the appropriate thing to do. I don't understand why Vice President Vance considers this warmongering. This is what I would consider normal U.

S. national security response. to a threat from an authoritarian regime. I want to hear what Brett McGurk said. And the whole thing, I know we're adjusting your shot, you change it a little bit, but the shot was pretty steady.

You don't really have to adjust if you don't want to. But I think what's most important is the Vice President's come out, and he is responsible for the MOU. The MOU is deeply flawed. Everybody knows it's deeply flawed. I listen to it.

Look at Brett McGurk. I was listening this morning, 4:30 in the morning. As you know, he worked for the Trump administration last time, and I find him to be reasonable. Uh and not a hater, in other words. Cut 18.

It's one of the strangest international agreements I've ever read. It is kind of, there's so many gaps and potential. Areas of misunderstanding, and yet it was signed by the President of the United States and the President of Iran, the first time ever that this has ever happened since the Iranian Revolution. He's ever had such a high-level signed agreement. But the crux of it, the Strait of Hormuz.

In Article 5, it basically says Iran will determine the arrangements in the Strait of Hormuz. The Americans have said, and I've heard this from Middle East mediators as well, that there's actually a side agreement that all ships should be going through. It should be unfettered. But whatever happened after the MOU was signed, the Iranians and the Revolutionary Guard have determined we are going to control the Strait of Hormuz. We'll attack ships that are violating our understanding.

And until you can break that impasse, we are stuck. His verbiage that he signed off on, that he handed over to the president. has really muddied up the waters. No, it has. Look, it is not it's it the President signing it's not unusual.

As you know, the President this is an unusual President. He is more involved when he wants to be involved, and there's nothing wrong with that. But the writing of the f of of the fifth you know, the fifth point of agreement, it is written poorly. It it is certainly lends itself to the Iranians believing that in violation of international law, uh they would have some kind of control over uh transit through the strait. And so um You know, I wish it was written better.

I wish we'd put more attention to this. You know, I'm not saying having State Department official you know, kind of career State Department officials is, you know, is the secret elixir to everything. But I think it might have helped in this case to have a few more of our professional diplomats going over this and catching these kind of inconsistencies that are now becoming problematic. Yeah, I want you to hear what he said to Joe Rogan, Cut 15. But I think fundamentally we are on the right trajectory.

It's just going to be really messy and there's going to be a lot of stops and starts.

So what happens? The first week after we sign the MOU, we get 20 million barrels a day of oil out of the Strait of Hormuz. That's what it was before the war. The price of oil comes way down. And there are elements, the hardliners in the Iranian system, kind of freak out a little bit.

They're like, oh, sh. did we just give away our major leverage point? Screw nuclear weapons. We just gave away the SO in this MOU. And so there was this kind of freak out in their system.

So they shot at the couple ships. We responded. I think that's entirely appropriate, of course.

So is that how you saw it?

So, well, I'm glad to see the Vice President speaks like a salty sailor. I'll say that he's correct in the sense that. I don't believe that they thought we could establish A flow, a channel through the Oman Strait. It was normally the southern transit.

So we set up our own. Yeah, and and yes, and get up with the IMO's International Maritime Organization.

So really the way you're supposed to do things. Clearly, we did some kind of queue route, which is a quick mine clearance to make sure to make sure there are no mines in that transit scheme, and then put aircraft overhead to sh to take out uh small boats coming out and then Ships nearby to try to get at missiles and drones. And I think they were surprised at the degree we could do that. And clearly, they decided to disrupt that. And that's what's got us back at the table.

So that part doesn't surprise me. And in his idea that we're in fits and starts is probably right. I just think for him to say we're probably going to have to keep doing this bombing and then accuse Vice President Pence of being a warmonger for saying that we need to do the bombing, that's kind of inconsistent. I think almost all of us understand if we're going to get this thing resolved correctly, we're going to have to hold, you have to push back Iranian military capability and capacity around the strait. We're going to have to blockade their ships.

And we're going to have to do this for the amount of time it takes. for them to break. What role should Israel play? I think that as long as Israel is not being attacked by Hezbollah. From Lebanon, we probably want to do most of this ourselves.

If there's any shots fired from Iran towards Israel, Katie bar the door. They're going to come down hard on all the nuclear and ballistic missile sites. But probably at this point, we can handle the right number of missions a night on our own and let us and keep it this way. I don't want to give the Iranian regime an excuse to really open this up bro more broadly. Are you worried about the Houthis shutting down the Red Sea?

Yes, I think that's a great point. You know, there was a flight, we've tracked some flights. from uh cargo flights from Iran to Yemen. Look, I don't think they're sending them like tents and water and food, right? I think they're sending them weapons, missiles, and drones and launch equipment and radar and small disk radars so that the Houthis can get back into business of trying to shut down the Babo-Mendeb.

Because the way that Saudi oil is going from east to west across Saudi Arabia, it now has to come out this Babo-Mendeb Strait to get into the Indian Ocean.

So I fully expect the Houthis to be back in business in the next weeks or months. You're in Kyiv right now, and I understand Zelensky really changed the tide of the war with drone technology and the 35-year-old defense minister.

Now there's nationwide protests in Ukraine, unless you know differently, because he fired him yesterday. Why did he fire the guy? What am I missing? I'm not sure.

So you're absolutely right. Defense Minister Fedoroff came from the Minister of Digital Affairs, and he'd been a drone expert there, brought his drone expertise in. He's done a lot, but he was unable to get control of the generals, the general staff. And as a re and he complained repeatedly to Zelensky about it. Uh and he what he w I I think at some point Zelensky Viewed Fedorov as a threat, you know, maybe politically long-term, but viewed Fedorov and his chief of, you know, his actual general chief of staff being in conflict with each other unacceptable.

I think he did the wrong thing. Here's Zelensky. I mean, it's a democracy. This is the beauty of democracies. Stuff like this happens.

People get pissed. They go in the streets. It is. I mean, I drove through it today when I was coming back from our training session. I was going to the Corps.

It was, you know, it's packed, thousands of people, very unhappy. Could you imagine the United States, the Secretary of Defense gets fired and thousands of people are protesting, you know, in Lafayette Square? I just, I don't see it happening. But in this country, in the middle of this war, this leader, Fedorov, was seen as a change agent. Good.

And I get the sense that Crimea has become uninhabitable, and I think the Ukrainians love that in every way. That started this whole thing. It's been fat. Look, I gotta tell you, their medium-range strike. Really enabled by a US weapon, by a weapon provided by Eric Schmidt's company called Hornet.

and by air weapons delivered by US weapons delivered by Ukrainian aircraft called ERAM. We have made the the Ukrainians have made the the logistics line from Russia, the land bridge to Crimea, untenable. They cannot resupply Crimea. They've hit the Kerch Bridge. Crimea is has limited power.

Limited food, tough to get weapons and gas for their gas for their weapons and munition for their weapons. The Ukrainians are doing fantastic damage in the middle strike, and that's not even mentioning the long-range strike, which is impacting their ability to produce, distribute, and refine fossil fuels. It's great. Yeah, and they'll have, I think, 23 of 33 refineries. Admiral Mark Montgomery doing great work in the hotspots that are keeping America busy.

Admiral, thanks so much. Thanks for having me. You got it. This is Brian Kilmeet Show. We're going to be back in a moment.

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I know you're trying to get a social media clip, Charles, but I think Savita was trying to talk. I know you're trying to get your social media clip to have gotten a little bit more. I answered your question already, but I'm also not here to answer to you.

So I'm happy that you told me that because I really appreciate it. I'm sorry. I really appreciate you lecturing me about what I'm here to do because I'm here because Abby Schill invited me here, and I have been in journalism for a very long time. In fact, I came to the New York Times the year that you were born.

So I would choose, I was to. That you choose a lane that is your own and stay in it and don't lecture me because I won't be lectured by a child. Thank you. So, Charles Blow showing no respect for Lydia Moynihan is a fantastic comment with the New York Post, but that's why that show is. That is set up to make, I guess, people who have a conservative point of view look bad.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. Where are you at on Christmas Day? Senator Graham. That is a an undecided legal issue, which uh it uh well I suppose I should ask exactly what you mean by that. I'm assuming that the question you mean is uh whether a person who was apprehended in the United States No, I just asked you where you were at on Christmas.

You know, like all Jews, I was probably at a Chinese restaurant. Great answer.

So Landon Kagan, when she was in her confirmation that Lindsey Graham voted for, he was on the judiciary committee. He said, look, as long as it was Democrats had the majority, if there was somebody that could do the job, even if I don't they're not conservative, I'm going to give them a green light. And that was pretty much the way he operated. on a regular basis. He wanted to get things done.

Senator John Eustad was able to watch him in a short time he's been in the Senate. And watch him operate and how welcoming he was. And, Senator, before we get into your race and everything else, I just want you to comment on Senator Graham. Oh, we all miss him. I mean, you can, he's just left a huge hole.

You know, I'm new. I was new. I was here a week. I was sitting in the cloakroom. Let's tell you a Lindsey Graham story.

It's funny about how he's always selling. He's always selling. He's got something to sell. He was trying to get me to support his Russia sanctions bill. All right.

And he's giving me this hard sell on it, hard sell on it. And about two minutes into the conversation, he's like, hey, what's your name again? Yeah. Because that's how Lindsey was. He was like, he just was trying to get his bill, trying to get me signed up on his bill.

And he just was always trying to get things done around here. And we had a nice moment in the Senate conference lunch on Tuesday where everybody was telling their Lindsey Graham stories. Marco Rubio came in, told some Lindsey Graham stories. He just, he was beloved by people on both sides of the aisle. And he made the job fun because he had a...

tremendous sense of humor. He was very smart and he cared about the country. He cared about getting things done. And he's a great example for all of us. And the thing is, if you go in there, everyone wants to get everything they want.

If you don't get everything you want, well, if I vote for that, I didn't get everything I want.

So I'm going to get primaried or I'm going to lose an election. He would say, what's possible? Push, push, push, what's possible? Let's do as possible. I'm going to do that.

The best he could, you know, with President Trump, unorthodox. He had to figure him out. After a while, I'm going to golf with the guy and I'm going to figure out a way to get my point across in a way that. Uh, I'm gonna that's gonna work with him different than George W. Bush, different than John McCain, different than Joe Lieberman.

So, what it would take, but what was the goal? Not to make Lindsey Graham famous. But to get something done to make the country better. And I know that for a fact, that's how he approached it. He was very good at taking complicated things and making them simple.

He's like, you know, basically, he would try to get everybody on the same page by saying, look, we're either going to do this in the end, we're going to do this, and none of us want to do this, so let's go get this accomplished. We don't need to get bogged down in the details. We don't need to fight over pettiness. We just need to go get the job done. That was his approach to governing.

So let's go talk about you. I know you can't because you're in your office. You can't talk about reelection. But we know you want six more years and you're going to be in a tough race, but Ohio is always tough.

So, you're going to get going on that. But one thing you can run on, please, you play a role in that. Ohio is ranked number one. Number one in the state to do business. jumped 33 places in just 16 years.

So you were Secretary of State and Lieutenant Governor for 14 of those years. What do you think are some of the key moments that got you to that spot? Because we all know what happened to the Midwest when manufacturing left. And then who can make the adjustment? Brian, I gotta put this in context.

When I was growing up, when I graduated high school, my dad, the factory my dad worked at closed, and he lost his job. Two of my uncles lost their jobs, my aunt lost her job. My whole family had to leave Ohio because there was no place to go to work. We had 8% unemployment. And we were a dying state.

And I remember, you know, it wasn't just me, but when I got elected to the legislature, I became Speaker of the House. We did a lot of things to help Ohio climb that mountain from the 34th worst state to do business to the first to number one. What were those things?

Well, tax reform. We cut the income tax in Ohio. We eliminated taxes on businesses investing in machinery and equipment. We eliminated the death tax. We cut one-third of the regulations.

I used an AI tool when I was lieutenant governor to eliminate 5 million words of the 17 million word administrative code. We did things like that, just gradually making Ohio a little better place to do business. And then you combine that with the Made in America strategy that we've worked with with President Trump. And we're adding manufacturing jobs. And now Ohio has the most jobs it's ever had in its history and one of the lowest unemployment rates.

But that's what you do. You just compete. And all the while, states like California, they make it more expensive to do business. States like Illinois, New York, more expensive to do business.

So you start to see those jobs leave those states, come to places like Ohio. That's how you do it. You trust in capitalism. You give people freedom, lower regulations, lower taxes, and boom, you climb that mountain. Ohio Senator John Ustid, our guest, and he's on Zoom if you're watching on the app.

Um or Fox Nation.

So you guys frack though too, right? What's that? Do you frack? Do you guys have fracking? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We have that's why we have some of the lowest natural gas prices for our residents of any state in the country because this is an interesting thing. New York could have lower gas prices, natural gas prices. Massachusetts could, but they have very high ones because they won't build the pipelines to be able to get access to that.

So, we, yeah, we've eliminated those regulations, protected the environment, and proven that when you do that, you can create a lot of jobs. These and these fracking jobs, a lot of them are in Appalachia, in the poorest rural parts of our state, and they've invested $100 billion over the previous decade in extraction, processing, transmission, and that's been great for the state.

So, I want you to hear.

So, first, Governor Cuoma blows it by doing an environmental study. The study says it's okay to frack. And I'm sure you don't know the center, but upstate New York is dramatically different than New York City or Long Island. It's very sparsely populated, a lot of beautiful land, and all this potential, but there's no industry. There used to be an industry, there isn't.

So fracking would have been great. They're all set to have these huge investments. But Governor Cuomo says, no, I'm going to trump the environmental study that I had, and I'm going to say no. Then I'm going to shut down the nuclear power plant. And now, when they're about to build data centers, in comes Governor Kathy Hokul, Cut 51.

These data centers require millions of gallons of water. straining the local supplies. And when powered by fossil fuels, They drive up. our carbon footprint, and they drive up costs for local ratepayers. And I refuse to let those costs be passed on to New Yorkers who already paid too much for their utility bills.

So she put it on hold. No data centers.

So no plumbers, no electricians, no pipe fitters. They're not going to be building data centers. Yeah, energy is a problem. You've got to bring the energy to the grid. I get it.

But is that the answer? Banning it?

So I'm going to give you an example of two forms of energy. We've made it easier to explore and transmit natural gas. That's why we have low natural gas prices in Ohio. But under the Obama years and the Biden years, when Sherrod Brown was Ohio's U.S. Senator, they closed 23 electricity generating plants.

So when you do that, what you see is that when you close things down, when you restrict supply, you drive prices up. All right. And that's what's happened to electricity prices in a lot of places, including Ohio, because they shut down the plants. But on this particular issue, President Trump signed a memorandum of understanding with the data center companies to demand that they build their own power.

So make them build their own power. Don't put the burden on the citizen. Put it on the data center. Make them build their own power. But you want to know why they can't do that in New York?

Because they don't want to build new power in New York. They don't want to build new fossil fuel generation in New York. We should make them build their own energy, and that would help lower prices for consumers and keep all of those construction workers employed.

So how do you feel about a data center? If they were to build one in Ohio, would you say yes? Because some states are saying no. Under certain circumstances, you need to make sure that they pay their local property taxes. You need to make sure that they're building their own electric generation.

You need to make sure, and I'd prefer that they be on vacant sites, former industrial sites, maybe one of those closed power plants, so that the communities that have lost those jobs get some new jobs. All of those things would be a smart way to do it that would protect the citizens, use land that is prime development, and also lower residential property taxes when you make them pay the property taxes for their new facilities.

So I want you to hear what David Solomon said, CEO of Goldman Sachs, Cut 51. These dad I know people are very nervous about the change that they bring, et cetera. There's always disruption from technology, but what these technologies do is they make us all more productive. And I think that's something to be excited about. But it's going to take some time to filter it into the economy.

So he says AI is something people are nervous about. They're getting pushback from. But how do you feel about it? Because we saw. Those graduates from college boo their commencement speakers when they brought up AI.

I'm not used to that. I'm used to sixty year olds or seventy year olds being upset when the computers come on to fray and come on to and people start saying how things are changing with email. That was older people that pushed back.

Now we have younger people pushing back. How do you handle that center politically?

Well, here's the issue. Whether you have a data center, for example, should be a local decision. It shouldn't be the federal government and it shouldn't be the state telling somebody whether they can do it or not. It should be a local decision, whether they want it or not. But on AI, well, first of all, you can understand why people are scared because this is a mistake that the AI companies made is they scared them.

They told people this was going to take jobs.

So why wouldn't you think if you're a citizen and the guy who owns the data center company or owns the AI company says it's going to take your job, you might just believe them.

So they've done a poor job of selling what AI can do from an upside. And I think that the AI companies have a responsibility to do a better job with that if they want people to support their particular industry.

Now, the other thing that we can do is integrate it into education. I think AI can be a great tool at making sure that every child has. A 24-7-365 tutor. Because you want to know something? These are amazing tutors at helping young people understand how to do complex things.

Like I couldn't help with your physics test, or I couldn't help you with your pre-calculus test, those kinds of things. But your AI technologies can help these students. We need to make sure every student has access to it so they have this tutor that no matter where they are, they have somebody that they have this tool that can help them with their educational opportunities. And we need to make sure that that's happening. A separate note: do you want to see the Russian sanctions bill passed?

Are you one of the senators that are voting for it and hope the president signs it? That would put sanctions on anyone who trades with Russia, like China. Turkey. And India Some of which we have delicate trade relations with. Is it worth that risk of rocking that?

in order to rock Russia.

Well, I'm a co-sponsor of that legislation, and I want it to pass. But what's different about this compromise that, frankly, Senator Graham, when he was with us, helped to negotiate is it gives the administration some latitude in how they negotiate those sanctions or how they levy those sanctions. If you look at every successful sanctions regime over time, it's an important thing to give the administration some flexibility with the imposition of these sanctions so that they can take into account. For example, if somebody is dramatically, if they're relying on Russian oil, if they can prove that they're cutting their reliance on Russian oil over a longer period of time and they can demonstrate that they're going to do that, then I think that that's an example of the flexibility that you could have in working with some of those countries.

So we could contact India and say, this is what you've taken in. I need you to cut that back five percent every six weeks. Or else we're going to hit you with tariffs. Is that an example? Yeah, that's an example of something that you could do to show to put pressure on Russia, but also not their economy collapse due to a lack of access to the like we have to step up and tell India we could supply that natural gas, we could be your partner.

Yeah, or someone else. But the idea that they're just going to go cold turkey is a hard thing for some of these folks to do. And so if you can gradually reduce it and prove that, puts pressure on Russia and also doesn't create too much tension with some of our allies. All right, Senator. Thanks so much.

I look forward to talking to you again. We'll see what happens this week or next, whether it comes with these sanctions, because I think we need to pass it. Senator John Houston, thank you. Thank you. All right, 1-866-408-7669.

When we come back, I want you to hear who's making who's having fun finally at Joe Biden's expense. And we're also going to talk a little World Cup. You'll listen to Brian Killmeat Show. Don't move. The headlines, the stories behind them, and the people who make them only on the Brian Kill Meet Show.

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Off the pole. Second time today. And Spence beats Messi to the loose ball. Still in. Spence might be hurt.

Messi resets. Messi driving in. Messi crossing back pump. There it is. Rautaro Martinez.

Stop it's time. Go ahead, goal for Argentina. Enzo Fernandez on the header. The ball went over a guy six foot one, and that was Argentina on the assist from Leono Messi. And Argentina went up and tied the gap.

That was the 2-1 goal over England. They dominated. After England went up, 1-0. It was kind of the worst thing that happened to them. They started unbalancing the game, thought, I'm just going to pack it in, put five in the back, drop my best offensive player, put him into midfield, and then see what will happen.

Obviously, it was a tragic mistake for England because if you watch that last 30 minutes, it was like they were playing against a junior high school team. They just were destroying them. You knew it was a matter of time.

So, a lot of this happened.

Now we're set up Argentina against Spain. It's going to be a fantastic game. It's going to be a fantastic game on paper that I think Spain has got the more talent. They've been playing better. I think they only led up one goal the entire tournament.

They are Euro champions. They just beat France, the number one team in the world.

So I want you to see so much of this Has been a lot of fun. For the players, for the fans, for FIFA. It's been unbelievably successful. I don't really know anybody, besides ticket prices being high, that's even said anything negative about it. I mean, people come here, they love it.

The events have come up without a hitch. The problem's been the referee, nothing you could do about that. A lot of it's the VAR, the instant replay, not working for soccer. Major overall has to happen next time. But Jimmy Fallon had one of the most interesting guys on.

He's the setup forward. He's the lone forward on Norway. Uh and he is um He is a Holland. Is this guy this guy from Norway, right? No, you have the other ones.

We had Tom Holland on the actor, and he tried to DM Erland Holland.

So, cut five. There's another Holland that is that was in the World Cup that is very famous and and and popular. His name is uh Erling. Erling Holland. Erling Holland.

Yes, and he's he became a superstar. I saw somewhere that you D M'd Erling Holland and he didn't respond to you. Yeah. That you Tell us the truth. Did you DM Erling Holland?

Yes. Yes, and I'll tell you what, that is exactly the type of humbling experience that is important for actors. Yeah. You know, once you text him, I'll take him to dinner, not even a response. Not an excuse, not I'm busy tonight, I'm playing football.

Nada. Nothing. He happens to be the coolest guy. He's a big blind guy. Looks like Thor and plays like Samson.

All right, so we'll talk about that and we'll preview it tomorrow. We'll do something soccer-related, I promise. And everyone's going to be watching Sunday at 3 o'clock Eastern Time.