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He hasn't said it, but I can feel it. Jimbo, great to see you in person. Thanks, Brian. Thanks for having me. Nice to know so much that's come to New York.
Yeah, yeah. Came to New York. My wife and I are having fun. It's our anniversary, so we're going to hang out for a couple of days, so it's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be great.
Did you like coming here as a player? Yeah, I loved it. I love playing here. But you know, we always played in the Meadowlands. That place.
Yeah. That's the biggest wind tunnel in the world, you know, out there. And then when you would be on offense, you know, they would take the other big door there and open it up. Yeah. Right.
Do everything you could do. Everything was against the wind. I'll tell you what. I don't know if you've seen the stadium lately. I like the old stadium.
There's this sense of intimidation, big walls. I don't like the new stadium. Yeah. And both teams paid for it. You would think there'd be a dome on it at the very least.
Yeah. Or even a retractable dome, right? I mean, I would think. I mean, I like the weather. I like the weather, but I like the weather.
Do you like the weather in Chicago? I like the weather until it gets too bad. You know what I mean? I like playing in a little bit of cold and not too cold, you know, like 50 degrees. Once it gets like freezing, then you want to put a dome.
So if you could have a retractable dome, that would be awesome. A lot of people don't do that. I grew up with the Vikings. Yeah. Oh, you turned that field, yeah.
Right. So. Just watching, and when they would go to the field, they would want that advantage and no heaters on benches and no, you know, no one wearing anything underneath their sleeves. And that would be Minnesota in the winter. It's ridiculous.
Yeah. When I was a rookie, that was the same thing that the Bears. The coldest game I ever played in was I was a rookie at Soldier Field. I think the high for the day was like four degrees. And that's before they started keeping like wind chill.
They started keeping it, and they were thinking it was like 25, 30. You could not get warm no matter what you did. You ran as fast as you could. I mean, it hurt to breathe. It's like unsafe, you know, to do it.
What about the fans? You just sit there. They'll sit there. Yeah. Well, they're sneaking in all the booze and everything like that.
So they're probably pretty warm. But, I mean, they got to be cold because, I mean, and then we didn't have the heated benches. You know, we just had those big heaters that look like jet engines, you know, and guys are burning their socks off trying to get close to it. They weren't really getting the technology onto the sideline. You know, the one thing I know you still follow the league, and of course, the Bears, you might have been on the greatest team ever.
But the one thing they're doing now, they are a global league. Right. They got the San Francisco 49 is going to Australia. Yeah, I saw that this morning. Crazy.
I mean, how would you feel about it? I know you guys used to complain about England. Yeah. Right?
So, what would you do if that popped up on your schedule? Yeah, we were the first ones to play over New York. We played in 86 in the American Bowl, they call it a preseason game. We played. And I mean, that was hard.
I mean, you get over there, you know, and we got off the airplane, we went to Hyde Park. You know, they had sweats for us and everything. We're running up and down Hyde Park. People are looking at us like, what are these guys doing? You know, just to try to beat the jet lag.
And then we tried to stay up. But of course, everyone went back to the room, went to a pub, had some beers and went to bed at like six o'clock. Then you're up, right? Then you're up. And it took like three or four days to get acclimated.
I think one of these guys are going to, I mean, Australia, they got to go early, but a lot of times they go to England. They go over like the day before, right? It's crazy. They don't spend a couple of days there. They just go over there and try to get it out and get it over with and come back.
I mean, they were thinking for a while when Jacksonville was maybe spending half their games there. They're not anymore. They rebuilt the stadium, rededicated to the city. But they were thinking about making that a home field. I guess there's just so much money in the global game.
The NBA found that out. Right. I think so. I think my opinion is, some people don't agree with me on this. I've had this conversation with people.
I think in the next 10 years, you're going to see a team in Mexico City. And you're going to see a team in London. Wow. I think so. Because I think you can think about that.
Mexico City, you could have all those, the Texas teams and a couple of the California teams that can come down there, right? You can make a new division. And then the same thing with all the East Coast teams. Because if you think about it, to fly from Boston to London, it's not a big deal, right?
So it'd be interesting to see. But I think the global game is so big they want to expand. Do you like the idea? At first, I thought this is just to give America a gold medal. Do you like the idea of flag in the Olympics?
And now the more I think about it and see how unique it is. Do you watch flag football with the narrower field and the way they play? No. I mean, I think it's good. I mean, it's great if people want to get interested in football.
I think any way you get interested in football, but you know, it's like having breakdancing in the Olympics, too. You know what I mean? Is that how you view football, really? Flag football? Yeah.
I don't know. I mean. I guess I just don't. I mean, is it football? I mean, I don't know.
I mean, it's really not football.
So, I mean, maybe it's an old school thing, but if more people get interested in football because of flag football, then I'm all for it. Wow. So, the other thing they're doing in the NFL is going to probably get the 18-game schedule and cut off a preseason game. Yeah. How would you feel as a player?
Because I know the union has pushed back on that. It seems like they're looking to give on that.
Well, I think the more games, it's going to be interesting to see what the new collective bargaining agreement is going to look like, right? Because they're going to get more games. Do you think we're heading towards a lockout? I don't think so, but we're going to, we, I mean, every it's the golden goose. You don't want to kill a golden goose.
You never do, but if through my whole life, there's always been lockouts.
Well, I've been through one in 87. I was on a strike in 87, and then guys I played with were in 82 and 87, right?
So two strikes, right? And we didn't really get anything for it.
So now all those things we did and kind of got them free agency and got them where they are today. You know, guys like us had to kind of pay the price on, you know, a locker or not a lockout, but a strike. But, you know, I. I don't know. I think that when I play, we had four preseason games.
And I think three or four years before that, Brian, they had six preseason games. Which is pre-jason schedule. Which is insane. And so a 14-game schedule back then. I actually want none, but I guess evidently there's some benefit the league has.
You can't play football half-speed, right? No. That's why the Pro Bowl blew up. Yeah, I think one maybe preseason game is enough. They expect these guys to come in in shape, right?
In the old days, that's why they had six preseason games because, you know, guys were selling insurance and selling cars and working in a bar and then they went and they had to work in shape. Yeah, work themselves into shape. That's why they had spring training, right? Same thing with baseball.
Now it's not like that. These guys are getting paid millions and millions of dollars. They need to be in shape. They're supposed to be in shape. And so when they come to camp, I mean, when I went to one of the practices and watched the Bears, they don't even condition after practice anymore.
They're expected to be in shape, right? Because when they get there, they're expected to come with great wind and they can go through a four quarter. Do you think it's hurt the game? It's easy for me to say it on the outside as a non-football player with the lack of pads at practice, the lack of hitting at practice because all the rules that are built into it. Yeah.
Do you think it's hurt the game? Yes. And the reason I do is because I think, in my opinion, is you see a lot of injuries. I understand the reason for it. If you've got a franchise quarterback and he gets hurt in a preseason game or he gets hurt in practice, they're going to say, what the hell is going on with that coach, right?
I mean, you can't have that.
So I get all that. But for offensive linemen and defensive linemen, I mean, you have to have go live, right? You have to. You have to get your aiming points done. You have to get your hands in the right place.
You have to get your feet under. You can't do that half speed. You can't do that half speed. Especially with a buddy. Hey, just go through the motions.
You can't do it half speed. And then you get into a preseason game and it's sort of kind of full speed, you know? And then all of a sudden you go to game one and people are kicking each other's, you know. I mean, but don't you think the football quality is the first three weeks of the season is down? Oh, yeah.
Because of that, well, and I also think that the defenses are way ahead of the offenses early on because they can just play athlete, you know what I mean? And the offenses don't get their timing down, especially on the offensive line, especially guys running routes too. I mean, when you're going like you know, skeleton for those route guys, I mean, you just can't give guys free releases and expect to run in there. I mean, you're going to play man. I mean, guys are going to get chucked at the line of scrimmage.
You know what I mean? They're not doing that a lot of times.
So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I think it's a happy medium. It's got to be somewhere in between, you know, somewhere in between where you're. where you're given enough of a picture and are given enough of a against guys that they can understand it, but you're not going overboard.
So Jim Bocovert, our guest, Jim, I think there's two things in sports I think are underappreciated. I always think defense and baseball People never appreciate it until the playoffs think, wow, you know, he doesn't have much range at short. Oh, and you know, at third base, he's kind of iffy. Just when things get tight, you see the defense matter because people are so caught up in offense. And I also think the lack of, I guess, discipline to draft an offensive line.
Because it's not the sexiest pick. Oh, I got a right guard. Oh, the fans don't cheer for the right guard or the tackle unless it's somebody that everybody knows. And I just think people have backed off that. And have, do you find the same thing?
As an offensive lineman, I know you're a little bit biased, but it's not the sexiest thing to draft a center. Right. But you, and when at the end of the game, it's very rare when a player, even maybe not you, they can go, the offensive line, that tackle played good. Yeah, that center played good.
So you don't see a lot of that. And I think that people underestimate the need for the line. Absolutely. I mean, you know, when the Bears, Jim Finks just loved to draft a lineman, you know, so he drafted Keith Van Horn as a first-round pick. He was a right tackle.
I was a left tackle. I mean, he believed in drafting linemen high because he believed that that's how you build a team from the inside out, right? And a lot of teams think if you can get skill position guys, great. It's great. The fans love it during draft day.
But if you don't have a foundation, and that foundation is offensive, defensive lines. And I think that's what made the Bears great in the 80s, right? Because we had great offensive lines and great defensive lines. You got three of them in the Hall of Fame on a defensive line, right?
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Well, you know, I've been on the Packard Center board for quite some time, which is in Johns Hopkins, which is a Packard Center for ALS. And they're just trying to find a cure and therapies for ALS and neurological disease like Parkinson's as well, right? And things like that. And I just believe very strongly that when you see people like Steve McMichael cut down, I mean, that was just, for me, it was pretty devastating. One of the most physically imposing people you'll ever meet.
And you see what it does to him. Oh, and then when you go to see him, Brian, you know, I mean, he's in there and he's he. Understands everything going on around him. Cognitively, he's fine. He's just his body was gone, right?
And so he's having conversations with you, and it's so difficult, right? And so I just feel like to raise more awareness and more money to hopefully one day find a cure for this and try to do some gene therapy to prevent it so people can't get it in the future. Tim Green's been on our show, and Tim Green, the offense, is outstanding up in the Ryman seven year in the Atlanta with the Atlanta Falcons, got his law degree while he was playing. Yeah. Host of Inside Edition, Fox Sports, and everything, successful law firm.
And it hit him 6'4, 280 one day. And the next minute, he's not able to. But his attitude is just off the charts, great. Yeah. And he's with his eyes writing.
And now with AI, you get to hear his voice. Yeah. And that's hard. I played against him. Tough, tough guy, you know?
And so when you see that, it's the same thing, right? I mean, but do you think it comes from football? I think in some cases you got neurological disease that come from head trauma, right? It could, you know, and I don't know if it ALS specifically comes from football, but I can guarantee you that neurological diseases like Parkinson's and other things come from football because you had head trauma, right? And, you know, there's all kinds of therapies that people are working on.
I saw one the other day, which was cryotherapy. And, you know, when you're going in, you know, oxygen therapy as well, that people are doing. And I saw that there's all kinds of different things that people are trying just to slow the progress of it. And, you know, I think someone like the Packard Center is working on it to try to find gene therapy and other things.
So if people want to help you out and help out the organization, go to Coast 2, number 2, Coast. That's the number four, AOS.org, right? That's it. That's it. Yeah, we're going to have a bike ride on this thing, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
We're going to raise money for this thing, and we're going to try to kick this thing, and hopefully, in the next decade or so. Have a good time in New York. Stay out of trouble. I will. Don't let the bikers run you over.
Remember, we had a bike lane just designed to kill you. Yeah, exactly. I saw that. Right. And by the way, the guys on mopeds come by and try to steal your wife's bag.
She'll come back to that. Yeah, and you'll too. By the way, Jimbo Covert will chase you down if you're one of those moped guys that want to steal his wife's bag. As long as they're around 10 yards away from you. You don't want to let them catch up to you.
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