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Erika Kirk on life without Charlie

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Erika Kirk on life without Charlie

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December 9, 2025 12:42 pm

Erica Kirk, CEO of Turning Point USA, shares her experiences and insights about her late husband Charlie Kirk's book 'Stop in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life'. She discusses how the Sabbath has been a part of her life since childhood and how it has shaped her values and priorities. Erica also talks about her grief and determination to seek justice for Charlie's murder, and how her faith has helped her navigate this difficult time.

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And she wrote the forward to Charlie Kirk, her husband's book, Stop in the Name of God by Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life. Erica, great to see you. Likewise, good to see you. It's hard to imagine a busier person than you that's been to more than you have been. And that's when I found out two weeks ago, oh, she's going to be coming by with a book tour.

I thought to myself, oh my goodness. Oh, it's not my book. It's my husband's. And it's bittersweet because these are his final words that he left not just the world, but also to me. And he used to write me a letter every single Saturday during the Sabbath for him.

So this book now is my love letter for the rest of my life.

So what's interesting is, I remember, I think it's Larry Arn of Hillsdale. Dr. Larry Arn.

So here is, I'm looking at Charlie when he was 22, 23. I think I was invited to speak at one of your events. I go, yeah, I'll speak on it. No problem. I didn't really know what Turning Point was.

And I walk in, and everyone in the hotel knows. Kings knows who I am. And I walk in at, I had to speak at seven in the morning. And there was probably six thousand people there. I go, What is go where is this what is going on here?

And he goes, These are all college kids. And he was sitting back as if this is just the beginning. But it was interesting when Larry Arne spoke at at your husband's Memorial. He said how he came to him and said, This is what I want to do. And he basically said, You got to learn more.

You got to study. And he said, 33 Separate courses from Hillsdale. He did. And what did that bring to him and how did that lead to this? Always was on the hunt for Truth and beauty.

And things that were eternal. That was his focus. And when he saw that he didn't want to be a talking figure, he wanted to be a movement leader and a thought leader. And so, in order to do that, you need to constantly be reading, learning. Doing everything that you need to be able to make a difference in a way where it's not, I'm preaching at you, I'm preaching at you.

Instead, it was along the lines of, no, I read this. And this works, this doesn't work. Let me show you a different way of living. And that's what came into the. I also noticed, and as I mentioned, this on Fox and Friends.

That Dennis Prager was somebody that he dedicated the book to. He did. What did Dennis Prager bring to Charlie Kirk?

So Charlie listened to every single fireside chat. I had the blessing of being able to see Dennis this past week when we were on our way to Florida. I wanted to see him. I wanted to be able to just read to him the dedication of the book that Charlie did for him and just say, Dennis, you will always be one of the most influential voices of our time. Thank you for taking the time to pour into my husband.

And he's a religious scholar. He writes books that I don't even, I mean, what I've seen him put together, man, you can't take a sentence off. No, he is so phenomenal at breaking down the Torah and going through and writing commentaries on the Old Testament, which Charlie read all of them. He read all of them. And you cannot understand the New Testament if you do not read the Old Testament.

You cannot separate the two. And so Charlie knew that if I'm going to write a book on the Sabbath, I need to understand fully what this is, implement it into my life, see how it works, and then show others this is how it's done. Erica Kirk here, the name of the book is Stop in the Name of God, why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. I've always, and again, I am not a religious scholar, but I've known people who are Orthodox Jewish, Jewish, Orthodox Jews. And that's the ones, and they're by, by the way, almost all of them are almost billionaires.

But they go, don't call me on Saturday. What? I can't get back to you. I'm off. Remember Joe Lieberman, running for president.

I'm off. I don't use cars. I don't do anything. I didn't equivocate. I didn't play that out to Christianity.

Is it for both religions?

Well, it is a commandment. It's part of the Ten Commandments. But what Charlie's trying to explain in this book is that put the legalism aside. Look at this from the standpoint of if you don't Honor the Sabbath, meaning the day of rest. God is asking you to just press pause and rest and be with Him so that He can use you and you can be the man or the woman that He needs you to be in order to make a difference in this world.

Charlie's saying, don't get caught up in. The legalism of it. Instead, Do what you can to say, okay. These are a few hours that I can turn my phone off, disconnect, be with the Lord, be with my family, and unplug. There are certain things like for us, we would make sure that Friday night it was family dinner night and then all day Saturday was family time.

Charlie always prioritized myself and the children, and he would also make sure that we would get a date night in. He made sure to that I always knew that I was Always, always above anything else. And he made that amplified during the Sabbath. It's interesting because after he hosted Fox and Friends, So I texted him right away and I said, Are you interested in doing this? I've never seen somebody just take to it right away because you know what Fox and Friends is a slice of life.

It's not, here's the news. It is how do you feel about the news? What is your opinion of the news? Is there a format better built for him?

So he goes, Brian. Not a chance. Do you see my weekends? And a part of it was this. He goes, yeah, I'm not available.

They're sacred. They're sacred because he could not do or operate on the level that he was without having a minute to breathe. And he wanted to also be able to show an example. He's a father. People sometimes forget.

Yes, he was a movement leader, but he was a dad to a son. Even though my baby boy is very little, he did not take that lightly. He knew that I am not raising a boy. I am raising a man. And so if I'm going to be what I want my son to be or to look up to, I need to live up to that standard.

I need to stop doing things that he, Charlie didn't drink, not because, again, being legalistic, but he could not operate the way he needed to operate. Being drunk, like that just does not happen, or going out and partying with the boys, that doesn't happen. Yes, you can have fun. There's many different ways of having fun. This is not supposed to put guardrails on your quote-unquote fun.

It's supposed to put into perspective how you can be a true spiritual head and leader of your home so that your son can be the spiritual leader and head of his home. And we need to make strong young men that are respectful to their wives and to their children and know: look, There is a different way of living that will enhance your life in a way you couldn't even have imagined rather than thinking you're getting your answers from college.

So, the name of the book is Stop in the Name of God. Go to 45books.com to order it right now. But just a question about you. Yes. Where did who.

Is responsible for raising someone like yourself with the values and ethics and drive that you have. Like, how did you become you? I have an amazing family. My mother's. The blessing of all.

My father was amazing as well. Although my parents were divorced when I was five, I was very, very close also to my grandparents. And my grandparents, I was with them every Saturday.

So, without me even knowing, I guess now, just even thinking of this with you, that I guess was my Sabbath. I went and stayed with my grandparents Saturday, all day, Saturday, Saturday night, would come home to my mom on Sunday. But on Saturday night, after having dinner with my grandparents, we'd watch the Lawrence Welk show. I was I guess I got started when I was 10 and didn't end until I was 18.

So for me, but that was my and but this is really sweet, even reminiscing on this. That was, I guess, my form of a Sabbath.

So you were always family-oriented. Always, always. Family is so important, and that's and Charlie saw that too. And that's why we understood how important tradition was and pouring into your family and Being so close to each other, because at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, with your short life here, what are you leaving behind? You don't get to take anything with you.

Charlie did not have anything attached to his casket. He didn't have his books, his radio show, nothing. He came into this world the same way as he exited. And so, what are you going to leave behind? You're leaving behind your legacy with your family and your children.

So, he knew he felt like he was in a rush to achieve. He had a vision. He had a vision. And from what you know and what you know about his childhood, what laid the groundwork for that? He always was so good with time.

He was an unbelievable. person of time management down to the millisecond. And he always knew that if I could If I could steward my time in a way that was productive, in a way that was. Always moving towards something bigger and something greater, that he was in the right jet stream. And that's how he operated.

Did that come from his parents, or is that how he was? I think that's just how he was wired. It was never some, I don't think you, it's very, very hard to learn how to be very good at time management. You can learn, but to master it at his level, that's a total God blessing and a gift. Oh, yeah.

For a guy that had so much going on, he never seemed in a rush, right? He always seemed like he knew what he was doing. He was very intentional.

Okay, I have five minutes. And then he got everything out in five minutes, and then he was on to the next meeting, on to the next event. He was very intentional.

So Erica Kirk is doing a book tour for Charlie Kirk's last book, Her Husband. It's Stop in the Name of God, why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. I got a yesterday. I got through half of it in like an hour. It's really great.

It's powerful. It's excellent.

So, but you don't stop. And I know that when the message, I know it's certain to be a bestseller. Go to 45books.com. A few more minutes with Erica Kirk in a moment. She's also going to be on the five tonight.

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So, Charlie Kirk's words and thoughts come to life in his brand new book, Stop in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life. Writing the forward to that book is Erica Kirk, and she's, and by the way, the introduction was actually written by Charlie.

So, she is here to explain the book, what it meant, and how it was all put together. And you can get it at 45books.com. We got to make this. And it was a runaway bestseller, which I'm sure it will be.

So, Erica, as everything you got to do, running Turning Point Action, which is the vote, Turning Point USA, which is the college tour and the next generation, the youth. And then you have to do this thing. You have the media element to you with the very successful podcast. And then what about you, the mom, and the kids? How do you Choose now with all the people around you who will be the role models that you want your kids to be influenced by.

Well, we have a phenomenal team at Turning Point USA, it's a family. And Charlie handpicked every single person that's in leadership.

So, what the beautiful part about Turning Point USA is that everyone behind the scenes, when you pull back the curtain, they're doing exactly what they were doing on 9-9 before 9-10 happened. And we haven't lost speed. I mean, yes, of course, we took time to mourn. But our team For example. When Charlie was murdered.

Within seven days, we were able by the grace of God and we pushed through to put on that memorial for him. Our team does not look at this as a nine to five. Its vision led. It's movement driven, but it's also a way for our whole team. to put their pain into something that is so bigger And we all need this organization just as much as this country does.

So it doesn't, it's not a job to us.

So I know how you put it together and how hard people worked, but even you must have been astounded. By the number of people that it's And it took over the whole time. Not even the town. It was more the outside than the inside. It was a global ripple effect that no one, I mean, yes, I knew my husband had impact.

But to that multitude and extent is the Lord. And, and, Only God can use someone. to that capacity when you surrender yourself fully and say, Lord, use me how you need to. And then you, to walk out in front of 70, 80,000 people, people watching around the globe, our network never took a break. We covered that.

And knowing you're grieving because Charlie is no longer with us. Can you bring me to that moment when you walk out?

So I intentionally stayed in my own green room that whole time. I listen to some of the worship music. Actually, I listen to all of it. Um but There was a moment where They said, Do you want to go and stand behind stage so you can see and feel inside? I said, No.

I want to be able to feel that whole emotion the second I walk out on stage. Like, I want to feel the true impact of this moment because they said, Do you want to sit out there? And I said, No, I just want to pray. I just want to be alone with my thoughts and with the Lord before I step out on that stage. And it just was the most overwhelming.

I mean when you hear A stadium? And On like when you hear them sing singing hallelujah. That is a slice of heaven on earth that I don't think anyone will ever be able to put into words. It was unbelievably powerful. But then you have to speak.

And then you have to speak. And then you see the videos of my kids and him and like it is just gut-wrenching. And you did. You have to. You have to put...

Life is tough. It is beautiful but it is tough. And you are going to have to find a way. And anyone who has been through hell and back knows this. When you go through, and we were just talking about this off-air.

You have a decision to make when something like this happens in your life. Are you going to go into the corner and be in fetal position and just. let it happen and and you know Cry and cry and cry. Yes, there are moments to cry, yes. But are you going to turn that moment into something and say, you know what?

God, give me grace. Please give me grace. I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I know that you will put one foot in front of the other and you will help me get through this, Lord. You will help me.

Again, I don't know how, but I will, whatever strength you give me, strengthen the inner workings of my soul, Lord. Use me how you need to use me. Use this to make a difference. You have a decision. And I could see that determination in seeing you face to face.

Stop in the name of God is out. Go to 45books.com. How interested are you? in the investigation. about what goes on?

Like what role does that play in everything that you think about? No, it's a great question. We have a phenomenal team. I am in contact with our attorneys and the prosecutors basically daily being like anything new, anything new? We We know without a shadow of a doubt, with the evidence that we have, that we're moving in the correct direction.

And trust our team with full stop. Is it be is part of it because you know who Cash Patel is and Dan Bongino is at the head? Or is it just it's not even that. When you have the truth and the facts, you don't need anything else. I've seen the autopsy report.

I've seen all of that. I mean, if you have the truth and you don't believe the truth, I don't know what to tell you. But yet people Don't believe. People don't trust anything that they're seeing. I've been blown away by people who come up to me and say, hey, I know you interviewed Charlie, but you know we're not getting the right story.

Well, what do you mean you're not getting the right story?

Well, you know that that gun couldn't have done this, or he couldn't have been there, or something happened in the middle. I had somebody come up to me and say, someone popped out of a manhole cover and shot him directly. And that manhole cover's been. been covered up. I go, I've never heard of a crazier thing.

And they thought I was crazy for even questioning them. I mean, you must be getting this. The conspiracy theories. I have heard all of them. And Thank God we have a trial coming up.

Unfortunately, that trial is in a long time. What I want to be mindful of for people is that This was a murder. This is not something that What I don't have happen. Is For this to taint the jury pool. I don't.

I want my husband. I want justice. for my husband more than any other person on the internet. Any other person in this world that was my husband and the father to my kids. We will make sure, and we have been.

turning over every single stone, Going down every single lead.

So when these people say, oh, they haven't talked about this or done that, how do you know? You're not in those meetings with the attorneys and the prosecutors. You have no idea. And why would we share that information with the internet? Sure.

To to what? Then give the defense more stuff that's not true. Like it's just you at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, the truth is the truth. And this book is fantastic. I really encourage everyone to get it.

Stop in the name of God, why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. Erica Kirk, great to see you. Good luck on the five today. Thank you. Thanks for putting up to me with two interviews.

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