Hamas refuses to put down their weapons & return bodies of Israelis

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So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmead Show going at 100 miles an hour here on right at 1211 6th Avenue, Midtown Manhattan, where there's going to be a big debate tonight for the mayor's race. This hour got three great guests: Congressman Buddy Carter of Georgia, Dennis Ross. He is an extremely A well respected Middle East. Scholar, as well as Senator Joni Ernst, Armed Services, Homeland Security, and Chairman of the Rural Development and Energy Committees.

She's going to be with us in a matter of moments. And I just got to tell you also: the President of the United States, we don't know details, but he's going to have a press conference at 3 o'clock. He's got an announcement. What else is new? He gets his intelligent briefings at 11.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. They are refusing to do their job. They're grasping for straws. They're trying to make this about political tabloids and political intrigue and horse races.

Exactly the kinds of things that people are sick of in this country. Day 16 of the shutdown, Temperas Flair and Dem's socialistic side takes the lead, no doubt about it. Showing how split the standoff and this country is, I'll explain. Number two. The biggest challenge is getting Hamas out of control of Gaza, and that's looking actually as elusive as ever.

The big question is how much capital is Trump going to spend? If Hamas continues to take power, it's going to take buy-in from the Arab allies to really push them out. Gaza peace deal making some gain, some in-game adjustments as Hamas refuses to put down their weapons in return. 19 bodies of Israelis they murdered. We'll have the latest.

Number one. Would you give President Trump credit or not, to any extent, credit or not? I think it's too early to do so. Too early to say so. But if it proves to be something that is lasting, something that is durable, then I think that that's where you give credit.

Really? Got twenty hostages out, you get no credit? That is Zoron Mondani, the debate day for the New York City's mayor's race. And the world is watching as the frontrunner, Zoron, sits down with Fox to smile his way through his wacky policies. Senator Joni Ernst joins us now.

Senator, when you look at the Democratic Party, do you think of Joe Manchin Or do you think of AOC and Bernie Sanders and Zo Ram Mdani? Like, how do you view the opposite party?

Well, right now it certainly isn't that party of Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Cinema, you know, people that would come together and work with us on issues. We see it now as the party of Bernie Sanders and AOC, and that can be very dangerous, I think, for those that truly do love our country and the way we've developed over the last two and a half centuries.

So it's very scary, and we are seeing the results of that here on Capitol Hill during this government shutdown, where we see Democrats now pushing further and further to the left. They want to eventually get to a one-payer system when it comes to health care. And it's really frustrating right now for so many people in middle America, like Iowa, where I come from, they just don't understand the mindset of these New York elites. That are striving for socialism. Because Hakeem Jeffries and Senator Schumer live within a mile of each other in Brooklyn.

So that's what you're talking about. That's leadership on the left, both of which have not endorsed the one who won the Democratic primary in Manhattan, the biggest city and the financial center of the country, arguably the world.

So they're having trouble figuring out what direction their party wants to go in. AOC came out last night and said, well, you know, it's a bad precedent because if a moderate wins the nomination, I'm supposed to go. Support that moderate.

So they have some problems. They do have problems, and I don't feel one iota bit sorry for AOC. I do think we need more people that are willing to work together. We've got some serious issues in the federal government right now. We are trying to right-size our federal government.

When our taxpayers are forking more and more money out to support a bloated bureaucracy, there are issues.

So we are desperately trying to get to where we need to be in order to support our constituencies and also do the right thing by our taxpayers. You also said you're doing a study to find out how much we're actually losing during this shutdown. And you said the price tag has blown past $4.4 billion. Oh, yes, Brian. We have the Schumer shutdown.

Shenanigans have already wasted. 4.8. Billion dollars. We are spending $400 million. per workday by paying 750,000 Federal employees not to work.

And we're losing that money because they will get paid, these federal employees. They're at home or hanging out, doing whatever while they're not working, but it means we don't have that work being done in the offices.

So it means they'll have to come back, we'll have to maybe pay overtime, whatever it happens to be, but they're still getting paid that $400 million every single day, and we have no productivity to show for it.

So this is what what Leader Schumer is doing with the Schumer shutdown, it's costing our taxpayers that much money.

So I do have a non-essential workers' transparency act, and it will expose the lost productivity and the exact cost of this Democratic Party's national political stunt.

So it requires these federal agencies to detail the number of furloughed employees during a shutdown and the cost of paying them not to work.

So again, it's a lot of money wasted during this shutdown, and we can pin that blame directly on leader Schumer. Chuck Schumer is the one that has shut down this government because of his far left basis demands. I understand that. Here's what Bernie Sanders said last night: he and AOC, who are the pulse of the party right now, sadly, too socialist, CUD 21. We're going to do everything that we can.

to bring an end to this terrible shutdown, which is hurting you and which is hurting a million Federal employees and millions of people who use Federal services. But also we have got to be cognizant. that if Trump wins this fight, Our health care system could well collapse. And tens of thousands of people could die every single year. Do you think Trump could win this fight?

No, we're going to win it. But it's not I don't want to look at it like a political fight. We're going to win it because the American people are on our side. The stats say I think sixty seven percent blame Republicans, sixty three percent blame Democrats. I saw a poll that was just the opposite.

So it's roughly people are upset at both parties. But what he wants to do is restructure health care, which is not on the table. Right, exactly. And that's what they are fighting over, Brian, is What they are trying to do is extend these COVID era expanded subsidies for Obamacare.

So what happened during COVID, the Democrats expanded the subsidies, which tells me, one, that Obamacare, if we have to fork out these giant subsidies, Obamacare is not affordable, bottom line. And here they are trying to extend them even longer. This is not part of the debate. This is not part of the we need to open federal government up. what President Trump has said is open up the government and then we'll talk about this separate issue of the expanded subsidies.

But what we have to remember is we have to return to fiscal sanity and prepandemic levels. I want to make sure that we are taking care of people that need to be taken care of. But we also need reforms in place. Because Obama is a disaster. We are trying to bail out a program that's not working.

Yes, it is not working, which is why we have to Throw so much money at this program to make it work for Joe on the Street. Um When do you say when? How much more money and time are we going to throw at a system that is broken? Are we going to have to expand it even more? $40 billion?

How much more are we going to throw at this? It is broken. It is not affordable. It is not working for the American people. And we know that illegal immigrants are getting medical social services.

And we know that in Oregon, for example, more money is spent on health care for illegals than cops.

So, you have a bigger budget for illegal immigrants than you do for your law enforcement. That's how upside down that state is, that city is. I want to bring you to something else. You're from an ag state, obviously, the quintessential ag state in Iowa. And people are upset that the Chinese have decided not to buy our soybeans or our agricultural products.

And now, as we go to bail out Argentina, it has dropped the price of their soybeans, and China is buying their soybeans at a discount rate while we bail out the country. Are you okay with that? I am not.

So I've actually raised this issue with Secretary Rollins over at USDA. We were visiting about this just yesterday morning, and then I spoke directly to our U.S. trade rep, Jamison Greer, yesterday as well. And if this is the way it's going to be, and Argentina is selling their soybeans to China instead of China buying from the U.S., Then Argentina needs to buy product from Middle America, from Iowa. Um they can be backfilling their soybeans with our soybeans or our soybean crush.

So we need to make sure that any deals that we're engaging in can also benefit our American farmers. They are really getting the short end of the stick. We need more trade, not more aid. I hear you. Senator Joni Earns, thanks so much.

When we come back, Congressman Buddy Carter is going to be with us at Georgia. Then Dennis Ross on the latest from Gaza. And there is a lot of moving parts there and an interesting proposal about providing some security in Gaza. Don't move. It's Brian Kilmade.

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The House is out. The Republican side of the House is now out. Until they can get the government back, because they already did their vote and handed it to the Senate. That's where it all fell apart. Without 60 votes, we're in a shutdown.

And Congressman Buddy Carter is going to be running for the Senate against John Ossoff. But of course, he's got to get through the primary first. Congressman, how frustrating has this been for the Republicans?

Well, it's very frustrating for us as House members because we've done our job. We passed a continuing resolution, a queen continuing resolution, and we passed it through november twenty first for seven weeks so that we could continue to work on the budget. And the Democrats in the Senate, they're holding it up and they're voting against it. In fact, they voted against it. Our senator, John Ossoff, has voted against it ten times.

And And, you know, this is something that's really disturbing because John Ossoff is choosing to side with the Democratic Party. and their values more so than the values of the state of Georgia. Georgians want this to end, and they understand that we need to negotiate on the health care subsidies, but we need to open up the government. We should not be holding our troops and our federal employees hostage like the Democrats are in order to achieve something that the Democrats want to achieve, and that is getting health care for illegal immigrants.

Well, they the way you do it is they would give the money to the hospitals, not directly to them. But in cities like Oregon, I understand there's money given directly to legal immigrants, which is a sanctuary city, and it's more than they give to the cops. But what do you say to people who say, well, it's not direct payments to illegal immigrants? No, but it's still Payments. Look, I've heard that argument.

I chaired the Health Subcommittee of Energy and Commerce the first six months of this year before I ran for was a candidate for the Senate. And during that time, we are the ones who came up with the changes that were part of the Medicaid changes that saved and stabilized Medicaid. and we're part of the working families tax Yeah. And what we said is that those states that are covering illegal immigrants on Medicaid, that they are going to be penalized for that. And you know, the states were arguing, these Democratic states tried to argue the point.

They would say, oh, well, we're using state dollars and not federal dollars.

Well, come on, guys. You're using federal dollars to replace the state dollars that you're using there. You know, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. Don't try to fool me on this.

So that's the shutdown continues. There's not going to be any movement, it doesn't seem, by Bethune on this. Do you think it has a lot to do with the No Kings rally on Saturday? I do think it has a lot to do with that. I think it's and perhaps that will be the impetus, if you will, to end all this, and that they'll come to their senses and that they'll vote and we'll get the government back open next week.

That's my hope anyway. You're losing $4.4 billion already. But the big question is, the Speaker of the House says this is all about AOC primaring Chuck Schumer, and he has to look tough. Here's what they said last night in their town hall that nobody watched. Cut twenty-three.

But are you saying that Senator Schumer should not be worried about a primary challenge from you? Right now. No. Let me jump in on this one. Nobody cares.

So one more talk. It's the House Speaker and President Trump and the Vice President saying it. Pardon?

Well, of course, they're saying it to deflect attention away from the real issue. Exactly. And he'll even tell you what the real issue is. But CFCNN talks about it. We're living in the richest country in the history of the world, right?

All right, you tell me why we're the only nation not to guarantee health care to all people. That's not true. But plus, we have the quality health care, and it's such a complicated question. We know one thing, Congressman, Obamacare is almost impossible to finance. It is impossible to finance, and it's going to crush us as a country if we don't do something to get it under control.

And that's what we're trying to do. Look, at the end of the day, we all want the same thing. We want accessible, affordable, quality health care. Whether you're a Democrat, an Independent, or a Republican, you want that for our citizens, and we want to work toward that in the Republican Party. But the way that the Democrats are going about it, particularly with this shutdown, to try to achieve something that they want to achieve, and that is That is health care for illegal immigrants.

That's not going to achieve our goal here. I guess not. I also want to talk about what's happening Over with Venezuela. Yesterday, the CIA came up. The New York Times had a story about the CIA basically covert action to dislodge Maduro.

We know we're blowing up his boats. We know he sent his gangs over here to create havoc in our country, and they've been successful in doing that until recently. And we know we've now shut down the border, which is shutting down a lot of their revenue. What do you think should happen with Venezuela? And are you comfortable with the CIA moving in?

Well You know, they're not moving in without President Trump's approval. And look, President Trump, I have so much confidence in him. He is the. He is trying to achieve peace here. And I know it looks like, well, that's not peace, but he's trying to achieve peace through strength.

And by doing this and by attacking them where it hurts them the most, and you just pointed it out, he secured that border. They are losing revenue, and that is getting their attention. By doing that, he's going to achieve that and stabilize Venezuela. And that's something I think, again, another example of where this president, the president of peace. will be able to bring about stability in the world.

He wants Central and South America free of China influence, and that's why he's looking to sustain this Argentinian government. Could you talk about the big picture there? Yeah, the big picture there, the Argentinian government. You know, look, what a great case study and the way that the things should be done and can be done. This is something that we ought to hold up and put in the textbooks and say, hey, look here, this is a good thing here.

That's an example, I think, of where President Trump, again, is using. Strength, peace through strength. And again, this is an example of where he is the president of peace. Yeah. Argentina, he's going to be bailing out with giving twenty billion dollars, but he's doing it by buying their currency.

So we'll see if that's going to pan out because a lot of people say we can't bail him out. But if the big picture is keeping China out, and Argentina would agree to that. While buying our soybeans, that might be things that it's a win-win for our countries. Congressman, good luck with your Senate run. Thanks so much.

Ambassador Dennis Ross is next. He's one of the premier experts on the Middle East. I cannot wait for him to weigh in on this historic peace plan the President put together and used Arab Gulf states as well as the support of the people of Israel. Hi, everyone.

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And that's where we come in. We're working through all of those pieces right now as we speak. Congressman Michael Walsh, excuse me, Ambassador Michael Walsh of the UN, talking about getting the rest of the bodies back and also stopping the execution of Hamas, just killing people that they thought were against them. And they say our collaborators, we know that's folly. Dennis Ross joins us now, one of the most respected Middle East minds out there today, worked for Republicans as well as Democratic leaders, author of Statecraft 2.0: What America Needs to Lead a Multipolar World, and they're trying to lead again.

Ambassador, your thoughts of Phase 1 of this deal.

so far, with twenty hostages out and thousands of prisoners exchanged.

Well, look, I think the most important thing is that those twenty hostages are out. Yep. That should have been the the main preoccupation and it's been delivered and that's One should not underestimate the significance of that. And it is, I think, an extraordinary achievement, especially after two years Especially when so many people thought That Hamas would never give up the live hostages.

Now, we may see them what Hamas is doing now. By saying They don't know where their rests are or that there are some are really hard to recover. Meaning, the live husses return, but they seem to be playing games with the bodies. Is that what you believe? Because here's what they said.

For the remaining bodies, they require great efforts and special equipment to search for and extract them, and we are making a great effort to close that file. Do you not believe them? everything they say was a huge grain of salt. They were clearly conveying in the past that they knew The whereabouts of Hodges. To be fair, I'm sure there are some that it will take it'll take machinery to recover them.

But if that was the case, that should have been clear. and they should have made it clear much earlier One thing we know, the Egyptians have very good intelligence in Gaza and they're working. The Turks are now working as well. No one wants us to break down.

So I do think this is an issue. Even if I think they've been playing games, I I do think this is an issue that will get resolved.

So, a couple of things. The U.S. sees the execution of 33 so-called collaborators by Hamas. There's about 7,000 left. They re-establish security positions.

I've also seen online some video of other Klans, many, I think, a few of which have been supplied by the IDF and deemed as people that the IDF and Israel can work with.

Now, the U.S. has worked with Israel to create safe zones to shelter Gazans who are scared that Hamas is going to exert some type of influence or try to kill them with their brutal crackdown. What should be the next step in this? winner take all uh craziness of Gaza. Look, I wrote last week.

after the after President Trump announced that there was a deal, but before Uh it was finalized. I said one of the first things we're going to see is that Hamas will try to reassert its control by going after some of these clans. It's exactly what they did.

So One of the things that has to happen again is We need to reestablish On the part of those who are the mediators and who have influence on Hamas. Meaning Turkey. and Qatar and Egypt just because of next door. they need to establish very quickly with Hamas what are the ground rules. And the ground rules are this kind of execution, this kind of action stops.

You want to hear that, right? Ambassador, how would they do that? Would they say that publicly, or we get, according to reports, Egyptian officials have communicated to Hamas that these executions will stop? Like, we're waiting for the, we always know where the U.S. stands, where Israel stands, and the Palestinian Authority, perhaps, got it.

But the difference now, I hope, ideally, is these Arab nations, these Muslim nations, these Gulf states, have to start asserting themselves. This is their moment. You know, Brian, I could not agree with you more. I've been saying what makes this certain moment different than anything we've seen in the past when it comes to peacemaking. I see an increasing Readiness on the part of key Arab states to assume responsibility on the Palestinian issue.

that they have never assumed before. I can tell you in the year 2000, when we were trying to get ARFAT to agree to, by the way, what most of his own negotiating delegation wanted to accept. We wanted the Arab states to go and lean on him to get him to say yes. And they didn't do it. And why didn't they do it?

Because at that time, they feared Arafat would stand up and say You know, uh The king of Saudi Arabia is pressing me to betray the Palestinian national cause, and I won't do it. And no one At that time on the Arab side, he wanted to be in a position where he could accuse them of that.

Now there's two differences today, and maybe three. The first, there is no Palestinian leader with the stature of Arafat. He was iconic. Second, the Arabs at that time Never felt a responsibility to settle the conflict. Yeah, they wanted it done, but it was up to us to settle it, not up to them.

And the third thing is that there is now among Arab states increasingly, especially the Gulf states, the Saudis and the Emiratis. a recognition that this War, not just today, but the conflict itself has to end because it is a distortion. It is causing them not to be able to pursue what are their real priorities. It means we're going to we have the chance. It's not a given, and we shouldn't take it as a given, and nothing is self-executing.

But we now have a chance to get the Arabs to assume a role. that they've never been prepared to assume before. That's what's new in this situation. And this is, to me, much more promising than when you were dealing with this every single day. I mean, absolutely.

And you, by the way, you had this two-state solution proposal. Clinton had the two-states pollution. And this is why Hillary Clinton sounds like Trump and was not jumping on every Democratic saying the Palestinians are the problem. Excuse me, every Democrat was saying Palestinians are the problem. Hamas has got a point.

But Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton would never say that because you guys were so close to providing the West Bank and Gaza and a bridge or a tunnel connecting both places with a portion of Jerusalem. A Barack. Ehud Barak was willing to do what almost no other Israeli leader was going to do and do that. And Yasser Afra goes, No, I'll be killed the next day. I'm walking away from it.

That's where the anger comes from from your side in the nineties, right? Absolutely. Look, I'll tell you, I had a I had a dinner in uh in Rwabi, which is a a town in the West Bank, actually quite a remarkable one in the West Bank. And it was with one of the former Palestinian negotiators, it was about eighteen months ago, and he says to me. Can you imagine where we would be today if we had said yes?

Unbelievable. Yeah. Now he they wanted this. The point is The whole Palestinian delegation. wanted to say yes, and RFS said no.

But this is what's different, Dennis. And obviously, you're the superstar in this area. But here's what's different: I think these Gulf states and these Arab states, they're thinking about their economy. They're thinking about getting their people going. What I'm seeing in Saudi Arabia with all their faults and all their past, and I get Khashoggi and everything like that.

They changed the curriculum in Saudi Arabia. You have people growing up now wanting to be business people. They're trying to get entertainment. You have American comedians going over there. They're trying to be part of the golf world.

They want to host a World Cup. That's not an insular society who wants to one day turn over every government and march to Mecca. There's a different goal for these Gulf states now. And I think they see that Israel's not going anywhere. They have never been more powerful.

They just put on an awesome military display.

Something I would write back in a novel, and I'd say, well, this is a great novel, but they'll never happen. But they did.

So these Arab states go, I don't want any part of that. I have a bigger problem with Iran than I have with Israel. And let's just get our economies intermingled and let's start moving forward. This is a much different. Pote this is much more hopeful.

It is a different world. Brian, you put your finger on it. We've and people don't say this, but we have seen a social revolution in Saudi Arabia. Whatever, you know, yes. could sh should could show gave ever happen?

Absolutely not. reprehensible. But at the same time, what's happened in Saudi Arabia Has literally been a revolution. I want to tell you a story. When I was there, And I go to Saudi Arabia probably every six months.

And I had someone from the royal court, a young woman who was maybe 31. who was making the arrangements for me to go to my various meetings. And I asked her what her ambitions were. And she said, Oh, I want to go into uh I'm I'm a pharmacist by training. But I want to get into BioMits.

And I said Is that something you would have been able to imagine before? And she laughed and said, No, before I might have had dreams, but I would have known I couldn't act on them.

Now I know I can act on them. This is a woman, a thirty one year old woman. This would have been unthinkable in the Saudi Arabia of the past.

So that's We're dealing with a very different Saudi Arabia, a very different Emirates, And then there's one other point I want to make. If you go back to to what was the so-called Arab Spring in 2011. The effect that had on a number of states, including the Gulf states, was. You know what? That could happen to us, meaning the upheavals that you saw in Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Libya.

That could happen to us. Unless we deliver decent governance, unless we deliver economies that meet the needs of people. That's when the change took place because there was a recognition we have to change or that could happen to us. That's so interesting.

So the Arab Spring was a learning moment for governments that stayed in power, that we could either really repress and double and triple down, right, and make people's life miserable and tell them that's the way it is and live for Allah, or we could say, let's give these people some hope. And the war on terror, America's going to win that. They're going to drone you. They're going to find you wherever you are. And that's going to be it.

So let's change. And the one that didn't want to change is Iran. And that's why I believe in you tell me when you go over there, how many people are high-fiving that that nuclear program is destroyed or set back seriously? And how many people understand that Iran was exposed? That yeah, they could throw off some rockets, but they can't stop Israel.

See, that's one of the things I one of the points I've been making. Yeah. A number of presidents, Republican and Democratic alike, including President Trump in his first term, even though he did act against Suleimani. There was this sense somehow of believing the Iranians when they would say, if you attack us directly, we'll set the region on fire. and it created for them a sense of impunity.

And the rest of the region saw that. And they saw the use of proxies as a result. Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, all of them.

So, what Israel did is not only did they dramatically weaken the dramatically weaken the proxy network. But then they expose the fact that there is no impunity and then The strikes that President Trump did on On the three important nuclear infrastructure sites, not the only ones, but the three ones that we struck: Fordo, Ishrahan. and the times. That made it clear Iran no longer has impunity. That's huge.

And I I'm going to add another thing. The overthrow of Assad in Syria lost the Iran loses this huge ally, and Russia in Ukraine gets their eye off the ball. It never would have happened. If they didn't invade Ukraine and have all their assets elsewhere, Assad would still be in power. Iran and Russia would still have an ally.

But now they find themselves isolated in that area. You have an al-Qaeda guy, which worries me, who's in charge, but says, I'm open to the. you know, being part of the Abraham Accords. And I'm not sure what's going to happen there. But I'll take that over Assad and another Russian ally in the region.

So Iran is because he what he did is there's no way Iran has a position any longer in Syria. Russia Shar was just in Moscow yesterday saying we're going to live up to all the commitments we had to Russians.

So the new leader of Syria was in Moscow yesterday? Yeah. Oh, that's not good. But but I'll tell you, you're right. this needs to be viewed with some caution.

But the bigger issue for me is that Iran is out and can't get back in. You the Hezbollah was the crown jewel For the Iranians and their proxy network. but Syria was the key to the proxy network. And that's gone.

So that's huge. And look, the Russian connection is tied up with With Turkey. It's not clear to me, by the way, that the Trump administration is necessarily opposed. to this to the the Russian Turkish Syria Connection. I would personally like to see Us doing more to see if we can test if Shara is prepared to be as problematic as he says.

I am a little weary of seeing the Russians in there 'Cause the agreement means they get to maintain the the facilities they have, the naval and air facilities they have there. That would be a disaster. Why wouldn't we use it as leverage for recognition? We recognized and we said we're going to lift the sanctions and we didn't go ahead and say, by the way, cut your Russian connection off. I wish we had done that.

Yeah, but that's a big error. That's a huge error. And also, it's interesting because the president set up those relationships with the Gulf states and the region in order to combine with Israel to do the deal. With the Palestinian situation. And finally, Palestinian technocrats who are supposed to take over, do they exist?

They do exist. they do exist, especially if they're drawn from the Pausanian diaspora. outside of the area. Look, there can be some from the from the West Bank. There are some.

I've known them in the past in Gaza. but there are also those internationally that can be drawn on. They do exist, but the question is going to be the issue of Hamas disarmament. If If there isn't a credible approach to that, and it has to be. mechanical, it has to have clear measures.

What do we define as the end point of that? You're not going to disarm every single Hamas guy. of his of his weapon. What's the measure of real disarmament? And how do we create the right linkage between disarmament and these and the process of Israeli withdrawal?

That's really the crux of the matter. Because if you want Independence in Gaza. The only way you get it is if Hamas is not in a position to coerce anybody there. Exactly. And if it's only could take Arab help, the idea can go in there and try to wipe out the 7,000, but it'll create a little.

Hopefully, the Arab world can understand that they could be the alternative. Ambassador Dennis Ross, always great to talk to you. Thank you. All right. Take care, Brian.

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If you want to invite somebody on, you put on Tom Cotton, go ahead. Remember, Bill O'Reilly went on there, they left. I think they wa they left a couple of times. And not just with Bill, I think they've uh stormed out with somebody else too, right? Do you remember it, Pete?

But I I think a couple of times they just stormed out because they don't like what they said. But they're not open, and that's fine. It's four on one, five on one. I know Clay Travis came out last night with Sean Hannity on his T V show and he said I would do it. You know, I don't see any benefit to going on there.

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BrianKilmead.com. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmy. Frank Kilmy, coming to you from Midtown Manhattan, here around the country, around the world. Tonight is debate night in the big mayor's race that the whole country's watching between a socialist, a defamed governor, disgraced governor who wants to be mayor Cuomo and thought he'd have a layup to do it.

and uh to Curtis Sliwa. Uh third place, but hanging top. Yossi Cohen will be with us, former director of Massad. It's going to be a thrill to talk to him. And Mark Thiessen is standing by, also a thrill.

He's got a great column, and he equates the peace that we or excuse me, the agreement that we reached with Hamas. and how it can work for Putin. But first let's get to the big three. Number three, they are refusing to do their job. They're grasping for straws.

They're trying to make this about political tabloids and political intrigue and horse races. Exactly the kinds of things that people are sick of in this country. Department is day 16 of the shutdown. Temperance Flair and Democratic Socialists side seem to take command of the Democratic Party. What's this going to do for the standoff and as the country loses billions of dollars while they don't work?

Number two. The biggest challenge is getting Hamas out of control of Gaza, and that's looking actually as elusive as ever. And the big question is: how much capital is Trump going to spend? If Hamas continues to take power, it's going to take buy-in from the Arab allies to really push them out. That is true, Josh Kreischauer.

Gaza peace deal making some gains and some in-game adjustments as Hamas refuses to put down their weapons and return 19 bodies of the Israelis they murdered. We have the latest. Number one. Would you give President Trump credit or not, to any extent, credit or not? I think it's too early to do so.

Too early to say so. But if it proves to be something that is lasting, something that is durable, then I think that that's where you give credit. Zo Ram Mdani weighs in. Doesn't give the president credit for 20 returned live hostages. Debate day for the New York City mayor's race.

And the world is watching. The frontrunner Zoram Mdami sits down with Fox to smile his way through his wacky policies, which make no sense. Mark, do you see that free buses get you crime and a huge deficit? Do you know that getting rid of charter schools just hurts minorities? I assure you, the gifted program in New York City is one of the big drawing cards that he's going to get rid of, let alone raising corporate taxes to get this be more like New Jersey, Mark Thiessen.

Doesn't everybody want to have a tax structure like New Jersey? Yes, exactly. I mean, look, if the people of New York Elect this guy. They deserve what they get. It reminds me of when Ed Koch was running against Mayor Dinkins and then lost to Mayor Dinkins in the primary.

And they asked him, Mr. Mayor, will he ever run again? And he said, No, the people have spoken and they must be punished. That's a great line. That's how I feel about New York right now.

As an expat New Yorker who's not going to have to live under this sky, but cares about the city, I grew up there, it's my home. I think back to, first of all, I don't even know why Curse Lewis in the race right now. He has no chance of winning and he's basically electing Mandati. He should get out just like just like Adams did. But you look at Andrew Cuomo, who is like a disgraced former governor who many New Yorkers, including our beloved Janice Dean, literally blame for killing their parents and grandparents.

it reminds me of the governor's race when David Duke was the Republican nominee in New Orleans and he was running against Edwards, who was the Democratic nominee, who was a convicted felon. And people and the slogan for Edwards was, vote for the felon, it's important. Yeah. That's how I feel about Andrew Cuomo. If I was, I loathe Andrew Cuomo.

I think he's one of the most loathsome politicians in America. I would pull the lever for Andrew Cuomo to stop Zora Mahandati. You got to clear the field and let's vote for the guy who locked down the city during COVID and sent took. People with COVID into the nursing homes because it's better than communism, which is literally what he is.

So, if you want to know what life's going to be like here for people like me that work in New York City who don't get to vote but have to pay the taxes. Here's what President Trump says is going to happen. He's going to double the pain. Cut 11. We have a communist who's thirty-three years old, doesn't know a damn thing, practically he's never worked.

a day in his life. And he sort of caught on, right? And uh I'm not going to send a lot of money to New York. And he says it's like throwing it out the window.

So So it's going to be a double squeeze. Yeah, why would we subsidize communism? And look, he calls himself a democratic socialist. You know who else said that? The Democratic People's Republic of East Germany, the Democratic Republic of North Korea.

If you ever see the modifier democratic in front of socialism, it's a giveaway that's a communist, whether it's a country or a person. The guy's a communist. And if New York wants to elect that, a guy who, a guy, this is the city. where the nine eleven attack happened, where Islamic radicals flew planes into buildings and killed thousands of people in our midst. And we're gonna and we're going to elect a guy who couldn't bring himself on Martha's show to say that Hamas should not have any role in governing Gaza, which is the si which Hamas is the same movement as Al Qaeda.

They have the same goals. There's no difference between Hamas and Al-Qaeda. Hamas is it's not a Palestinian liberation statehood movement. They are the same ideology as Al-Qaeda. They want to destroy all all the Western designed states.

They want to build a caliphate that goes from Spain to the Middle East. And we're going to elect a guy who can't even bring himself to condemn that. It's just appalling. Mark, how does the template. For what the President's pulled off so far, and we could go over the details of some things that are getting derailed, but has the template of that led to what could happen in Ukraine?

Well, what he did with the I mean, it was very important to understand is that Biden he what he did was he rejected all of Biden's policies and reversed them.

So Biden's policy was restrain Israel, withhold weapons, appease Iran. And he did the opposite. He armed Israel, he unleashed the IDF. And he obliterated the Iranian nuclear program. And that created the conditions.

That allowed him to do this peace plan, which the entire world rallied around. He didn't persuade Hamas to give up its weapons and to hand over the hostages. He forced them to do it by isolating them, by cutting off their patron, by inflicting financial and military pain on them. The same thing is true in Russia. Putin is never going to voluntarily come to the table.

He's shown this. It's been two months since the Alaska summit. And what was supposed to happen was there was supposed to be a meeting with Zelensky, and then there'd be a tripartite meeting and a deal. And Putin has even not only has he refused to meet with Zelensky or meet his end of the bargain of the Alaska summit, he's escalated his attacks on Ukraine. He's sending drones into NATO countries.

He's sending Russian fighter jets into NATO territory. He's escalated. And so you don't try and win a game of escalation dominance with Donald Trump.

So the way to bring them to the table Is to give the Ukrainians the Tomahawk cruise missiles to start inflicting pain on Russia the way he's inflicting pain on them. And you can crush their economy, crush their military, and then he'll have to come to the table. Because they're going for the energy sector, and they're putting personal pain to the Russian people, and they're hurting him being able to fuel, literally fuel his military machine. At the same time, be able to bomb out drone factories.

So they're not looking for innocent people in apartment buildings like the Russians are.

So, what you're saying, Mark, is show when Zelensky comes to town tomorrow, they've already had their military people here. NATO had a meeting two days ago.

So, they are buying, NATO is buying these weapons, and they look to be setting up a legitimate missile defense system instead of a hodgepodge, whatever you got, give me. And they're looking to get a battle plan together. And when you show they're in for the long haul, let Vladimir Putin look around and check his bank account and wonder, wait a second, I was starting to break these guys.

Now what?

So here's the thing.

So Putin says it would be escalation for us to give Tomahawk cruise missiles to the Ukrainians. He has fired 2,400 cruise missiles into Ukraine. And he doesn't just target military side. He targets schools. He targets hot children's hospitals.

He targets shopping malls.

So to give Ukraine the ability to respond in kind, except against military and industrial targets, is not escalation. It's proportional response.

So this idea that this is escalatory is ridiculous, number one. Number two, if you if you give Ukraine the ability to do that, what it does is it takes you can't reach all of the targets with drones and you can't bring the payload you need to destroy them with drones.

So, if you give them a cruise, a Tomahawk cruise missile and they take out the Russian drone factory, they take out the Russian bomber bases, and also, by the way. You can take out their oil and natural gas production capability, which means you don't have to even put sanctions or tariffs on China. because you stop it at the source. And start inflicting some real economic and military pain on Russia, then Putin's going to sue for peace. He's going to have to.

He'll have no choice. Right, and the thing is, you could say, look, I gained this property. You know, they got off-ramps. He is not interested in the off-ramps. He was interested in making Trump look naive, but he's not.

Trump's like, listen. Yeah. So. The off-ramp is you get to keep the land you got, and for no reason, except for we just don't want a pro-long war in the area. But what you've done is you have alerted all of NATO that America, instead of begging you to fortify your defense, now you know you have to.

We added two more great countries into NATO. Maybe Joe Biden gets credit for that, whatever it is, or the realities suck. And now people understand that a Russian invasion is not a theory. It's a reality if they're not ready to fight. No, it's exactly right.

And look, the reality is that Putin always threatens escalation. Biden was terrified of escalation, right? Putin would say, oh, if you give them F-16, I'll escalate. And Biden would quiver and quiver and quiver, and then eventually he'd do it, and the escalation would never materialize. He said, well, if you give them attacks, they can fire into Russia.

Well, then we'll escalate. The escalation never comes because Putin has never attacked a NATO country. He's only invaded non-NATO countries because he can't beat Ukraine. How the hell is he going to beat Poland? How is he going to beat the NATO alliance in a war?

He'd be crushed. And so so he's not going to do that.

So uh you know, so I I I I think the way y the only way to end this Is to impose costs on Russia that are unacceptable to Putin. And hopefully, we get a battle plan Friday. It's amazing the way these two, Zelensky and Trump, are beginning to like each other. And Zelensky came out the other day and said that Donald Trump is much better for Ukraine than Joe Biden was. And he makes quicker decisions first and foremost.

Mark Lastley, the New York Times had a story today, not denied by the administration. The CIA is working strongly, if I could use the President's term, in Venezuela. Not only are they blowing up boats, they are trying to pressure Maduro and get him out. He's an illegitimate leader of that country. He's destroyed it.

He's killing people. And he's allowing China, Russia, and Iran to have a foothold in the hemisphere. And that's not okay. No, it's not. I mean, this is the Monroe Department.

How do you feel about our hemisphere? I feel if Donald Trump wants to launch covert operations to bring down his regime, go for it. Look, one of the things that Trump's national defense strategy is going to have is a focus on hemispheric security, on our security here at home. And having a dictator that is sending fentanyl into our country, poison I mean, truly, the fentanyl that's coming from Venezuela has killed more people than the 9-11 attacks have inside our country. It's like a foreign army coming into our country and killing our citizens.

This and he's Trump is right to designate the foreign terrorist organization, these cartels. and take them out. And uh the s the solution is to uh to uh The best way to do it is to get rid of the regime.

Well, you know, that Fortress America, which a lot of podcasters were hoping Donald Trump would do, is not coming out. They don't like the fact that he's now looking at the reality. And not looking at the reality and saying I'm not giving Russia the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't like the fact that he would they were over overall all in on don't like the fact he was all in on Israel. And they don't like the fact that he's getting aggressive with an enemy in our region.

What is your response to areas partisan parts of the Republican Party are not happy about that?

Well, first of all, those parts of the Republican Party represent a tiny fraction of the MAGA movement. If you look at every poll, and I've done multiple columns on this. Every MAGA voters are not isolationists. They are not. They want American leadership in the world.

And when Trump ran in 2016, what did he say? He didn't say we need to pull back from the world. He said we're sick of losing. We want to win. And now look at the wins we're getting with Donald Trump.

Why do you think you have peace in the Middle East? Because he killed Qasim Soleimani and he obliterated the Iranian nuclear program. If the isolationists had their way, they would none of that would have happened.

So, you know, Donald Trump is not an isolationist. The MAGA movement is not an isolation, or is not isolationist. There's this handful of isolationists out there who have loud voices. They're loud mouths, but they don't represent anybody. This is the first time, maybe since Teddy Roosevelt was president, that you had a leader address Central and South America.

And this is comprehensive. Remember, the first move was Panama Canal and get China out of there. And now he's trying to take a big risk and help Argentina. And I think part of the deal with Argentina is you've got to kick out China. I hope it is.

But we didn't do that. One thing that bothers me, and went over with Dennis Ross a short time ago, we did not demand for recognition of Syria's leader that Russia get out. And now we have Syria's leader meeting in Russia, him promising all military relationships are sustained. Why is that? Why are we allowing Russia to get a foothold after they've killed so many innocent Syrians with barrel bombs?

And now we allow this al-Qaeda guy. Who's not Assad that we took a risk in recognizing to go to Moscow and fortify relations?

Well, first of all, that could all be reversed with a stroke of a pen, so you better be careful. You know, Donald Trump, those sanctions can be put right back on. You know, he needs to make a decision. And to be perfectly honest with you, I wouldn't be betting my security on Vladimir Putin. He's got his hands tied up pretty strict tough in Ukraine, and it's going to get worse.

You know, I would not be making my bet with Vladimir Putin if I was the leader of Syria right now. Mark, I hope the president invites you over for the meeting with Zelensky. It'll be sure to go well. All right. All right.

I'll meet you there. All right. Washington Post, his column: Trump forces Hamas to the table. He can do the same with Vladimir Putin. And now you know the rest of the story.

Mark Thiessen, thank you. I've heard that somewhere before. I made it up right now. It's my phrase. How dare you?

Back in a moment. It's Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead.

Well, some people have actually said I was the most qualified candidate ever to run for president. Um I like the some people say very nice, but go ahead. I'm just speaking fact. Yeah. She's out of her mind.

She's had so many sycophants next to her. Her book tour is just an embarrassment, and she doesn't know it. She blames everybody but herself for the 107 days that she ran with over a billion dollars, end up in deficit. With a lead after the convention, she got a nomination she didn't earn. She was able to have everyone whitewash her invisible three and a half years of contributions to the Biden administration.

Would have been a great opportunity for a capable vice president as a president just withered before her eyes. Instead, she's on a book tour, too good to be governor of California. It's actually a job you have to work for.

Now she wants to be president, and she thinks this book is going to do it. And you have. Uh Curious wisher. Come out and say, yeah, a lot of people say, of course, agreeing with it in the sarcastic way, that she's the most qualified person. Why?

Because you were senator? An attorney general? And a vice president? By the way, if you want to look at resumes A much better resume for Joe Biden. Devil run for president.

You know, you look at... George H. W. Bush, I'm pretty sure CIA Director. Congressman or War hero Who was vice president?

And then ran for president after eight years as vice president. I'm pretty sure that's more qualified than Kamala Harris. Absolutely incredible. Who had run for president already and lost to Reagan? And Reagan said, You're so good, I want you to run with me.

So, I mean, she says it's the closest election ever. That's not true. She's the most qualified. That's not true. She did a good job.

I know that's not true. Coming up next, he was the former director of the Mossad, the most respected intelligence agency in the world. Yossi Cohen is going to be our guest next, and we're going to be on Zoom so you can watch it.

So if you're on your iPhone, you can watch the whole interview. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. We're not permitted to spy on these rails. We're not permitted.

The the potential for blowback is is outrageous. Can you imagine if we spied on the Israelis and got caught? every member of Congress would be demanding the CIA director's head. Do you think that we really don't spy in the Israelis? That was Verboten when I was there.

I was surprised to hear you say that in that interview because I figured it's this. Gentleman's game, so to speak. Mm-mm. With most other places, post 9/11, you know, we develop the five eyes and we don't spy on each other, and the five eyes. And of course, we have very, very close relationships with other countries, not a ton.

But A lot. But the Israelis are special. Yeah, we do not spy on the Israelis. How does the Mossad feel about that? Is that in fact true?

Why don't we ask the former director of the Mossad, Yossi Cohen, to join us now? Yossi, that was John Kirikau. John was the head of the CIA counter-terrorism operation in Pakistan. He led the raid that captured Abu Zubaida. Blew the whistle on the CIA Enhanced Interrogation Program.

Was he right? Is it forbidden, as far as you know, for us to spy on you guys?

Well, I hope. I hope he's right.

Well, I mean, first, thank you very much for having me on your show. That's an amazing thing, an amazing show. I mean, and thank you very much for. Hosting me.

Well, I hope this is the case. I mean, I know that for sure. I mean, Israel is not spying on the USA. Um we do not recruit Americans, we do not spine the U say, not entirely. I mean, we don't do that.

So I hope that America reciprocate. I I I don't know, I don't know that for sure, but I hope this is the case. I mean, what I've seen for the mossad being able to pull off over, you know, my lifetime, over the last 15, 20 years, has been somewhat a s just astounding, but you're a part of that. Tell me how you got into it. How do I get into the Mosad in the first place?

Well, when I resigned from the army, I was a commander, the first Lebanon War in 1982. That was like a... Forty years ago or forty-three years ago. Uh when I resigned from the army, I lived for my first studies in a a British college in London. And I was spotted there by the Mossad.

I mean my first few months in London, I was spotted by the Mossad and I had been engaged and approached by them. And they said something like, not very clear, but we are the Prime Minister's office, Minister of Defense, stuff like that, and we want to offer you a job. I didn't know what is it all about, but I was very much interested in learning more or listening to them. And my first visit to Israel, I've engaged with the office, like Prime Minister's office or any other cover name that they've used. And I realized that they are the mighty Mossad at the time Um, I was very much interested in doing it and a few months later I've started my Um exams, I mean to make sure that I fit in.

And a year later, I mean, after the exams were completed, I started my operational courses already.

So in 1983, I am a part of the Mossad. It took me two and a half years to be certified as an operative. Uh but after a very long, tough two and a half years, I was eventually there. And I guess the one of the stories is when you become a a mossad agent, you were known as Y, I guess, um, you'd kind of lose your identity. You could just disappear.

You couldn't tell anyone you're involved in it, correct? Correct.

So what's what's those what have those years been like? I mean, it must have been really hard. You're sacrificing your your um your personal life for the future of Israel. Absolutely, yes. I mean, this is what you do.

First, I mean, it has to be. Um precisely defined In between what we do and what we don't do, we do not work inside the state of Israel. All right, so everything that everything that operational we must add. Is doing is outside of Israel.

So it's a kind of a very risky job. I mean, we go all over to the Middle East, we go all over to countries. And we operate in order to either recruit people or to um conduct special operations to make sure that The state of Israel will be safer. I mean, not only the state of Israel, somehow the world will be safer. Yes, you do sacrifice a lot.

I mean, you do sacrifice your personal life. And you're willing to sacrifice your entire life, either your freedom or your life. Uh literally.

So this is something that we do on day to day. Our basis.

So we watched how the infiltrated, the Mossad had infiltrated Iran prior to the attacks. Watched as the Mossad had pulled off the most brilliant Pager attack, followed up by the Walkie-Talkie attack over in Lebanon. And I'm wondering, and also the capture of all those documents proving that Iran had a nuclear program. You've took it out of Iran and set it up in Israel. You were part of that operation, it seems.

And it just seems like there's nothing you guys can't do. Can you bring us inside that operation to show the world what Iran was really up to?

Well, I mean, it was very interesting times. I mean, it was like in 2015, in July, precisely. I mean, the JCPOA, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, what we call the Iranian nuclear deal, was signed between the powers. USA, China, Russia, and the three Europeans, I mean, backed by the IAA in Vienna, the International Atomic Agency. And the agreement was signed under the Democratic Obama's administration.

I mean, we Have tried our utmost. I was like the prime negotiator for the state of Israel, working together with the White House and the others. To make sure that this agreement will not be signed the way the powers wanted it, but eventually. It was signed. And um in twenty sixteen I am Now, the director of the Mossad.

And we start to see something very weird happening in Iran after the agreement was signed. And they've started to collect materials from all over the countries in a very discreet manner. The one who led that job or a discreet job was Dr. Mursal Fakhri Zadeh. Rest in peace.

I mean, since then, I mean, he died, right? But Um according to formal reports in a special op Inside Iran. But prior to that, he gathered all these kind of materials in a very distant area inside Tehran, but a very distant area from the center of Tehran, an area that would not be declared or notified as Part of the administration or part of the regime. And we wondered, what is it?

So, the beginning of January 2016, my first days at the Mossad, we've learned that he's doing something weird. And I have ordered my people Then Not to lose the eye from the ball. I mean to make sure that we know everything that he does. and to make sure that we know where is it going to and with the minute we knew when it lands And the minute they have been satisfied with the collection entirely from the entire state into this. a warehouse in Tehran, we bridged in and we took half a ton of materials.

to Israel. I mean, in between the decision and the operation Uh Brian, it took us two years. Wow. Right? I mean, 2016, we took the decision.

In January 2018, we've actually operated. uh dozens of operatives, I mean, together inside this warehouse. Um we had like a few hours to sneak in. To steal what we need, because there were three huge containers with a lot of materials.

So we had to control what we bring home and what we don't need to bring home. And then, you know, by seven o'clock in the morning, the entire country was after us. I mean, the kind of pursuit has started We believe 10,000 policemen and circuit police and all borders were Um Totally closed. I mean, that's at sea borders. And aerial borders, everything was totally controlled and sealed.

So, but we planned that and we knew that this is going to happen.

So, we left the materials inside Iran for a while. And then Um, not by FedEx or GHL, DHL. I mean, we're brought it back to Israel. Understood, you'll leave that up to mystery. But it just goes to show you, you had to show the world the truth.

Because the world was signing off on Iran's diabolical program.

So you had to get it out and prove to everyone. It's not my opinion. This is the fact. This is what they're really working on, making a mockery of the worst deal ever, which thankfully President Trump ripped up the first time. What about the Pager operation?

Absolutely right. Right. And so what about the Pager operation? How long was that in planning? Do you know?

Well, I mean, we've understood that there are because of the use of technologies by our enemies, we have realized in the beginning of the two thousands 2004 is so that we can be or we should be part of their supply chain. Simple as that. I mean, it's not as simple as that, but we have decided to be part of the supply chain. Of part of the enemies, I mean, part of the groups of the enemies that we see that are conducting a discrete purchase of the things that they need. Because when an organization like a terrible organization like Space Balla is buying things, I mean, you can't really buy it, you know.

Amazon, or whatever, I mean, or eBay, and get what it needs because part of the materials are not. Are forbidden, and it cannot really purchase that.

So, what we did is we have kind of conducted. ourselves to be their official providers. I mean, we had to, of course, not say I'm not telling them that we're Israelis. But the first equipment that we eventually sold to Hezbollah undercover Not knowing, of course, that we are neither Mossad nor Israel, of course. Uh, was already operating in 2006, the second Lebanon war.

And since then, we're not caught, thank God. And since then, we are selling again and again and again equipment not only to them, but to other. To other, let's say, organizations or countries that we are interested in either three things: one is intelligence. to location And three, to disrupt.

So disruption could be either a little bomb inside, little explosive things inside, or any other manner. Like it would stop operating or it will tell us. Where it is, and what do they do with it?

So, they didn't want cell phones, so they wanted to be tracked.

So, they were going to use pagers, they're going to be smarter than you, but you guys put explosive devices in those pagers. They always had to keep them on because they never knew when Hezbollah would come call, and they had to do some terror operation, usually against Israel. And then the explosion happened, and the follow-up with the Walkie-Talkies, and it became clear that the Mossad had laid the groundwork to take out the world's number one. Terror group, and that's Hezbollah. And they have not recovered, and Nasarella later would be dead because you were able to track his every movement.

So the Masadas pulled off incredible things. I want to play another cut from. I mean, I just can't get my head around it. No one else can. And I think the rest of the world's in awe.

John Kiricow, though, is critical. He's the former head of the CIA Counterterror Operations, I mentioned. Listen to him: Cut 37. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you'd be hard pressed to argue with the fact that they are really, really good. Best in the world.

My experience is universally negative. Universally negative. I've never had a positive encounter with Mossad. I have never met a CIA officer who has had a positive encounter with Mossad. Because the Mossad doesn't give two sh what you think.

Or what you or trying to focus on in your job. They care only about Israel. And if that means shoving their fists up your ass. or trying to recruit you. Or telling you to go f yourself while they try to recruit.

You know, the guy sitting next to you, or the guy in the defense contractor's office, they don't care what you think of them. Because for them, it's an issue of survival. I don't know if you're going to if you disagree with anything he said, right? I disagree with everything he said.

Well, I don't know the guy, by the way. I've never worked with him or never met with him, or probably if I did, I don't remember the name. But you know what? When I finished my time after long five and a half years, and I'd been working with... Four different directors of the CIA.

I start with John Brennan, who's under. Obama, then Mike Pompeo took over, then Gina Haspell, his deputy, took over when Mike was nominated to be Secretary of State. Then again, Bill Burns with the Democrats under Biden. And I know them all, and I respect them all. And the level of cooperation that I had with the CIA as director of the Mossad, Deputy Director of the Mossad, and you know what?

Somehow, behind the scene, the discrete operations that we've conducted together. Maybe brought them to the point that I, in my last days, In my time, I was invited to Washington, DC. And I was awarded by the John Tennett Award. Given to me by the head of the CIA. reflecting exactly the wonderful cooperation that we had with the State of Israel and with the Mossad precisely.

So you counter that. I got it. Yep. I counter that. I got one more question for you.

As impressive would if you were in charge of the Mossad, would October seventh have happened? How could you been how could Israel have been so blindsided by people secretly doing drills and learning how to hang glide for them to pull off such a devastating attack? They killed so many and took over 200 hostages. Right, I think first Mossad is not dealing with the Palestinian story whatsoever. We're not involved in either.

Judea and Samarra, what we call the West Bank, or in Gaza Street? Unfortunately, so. I think that you can see the differences in the level, as you've mentioned. I mean, what we can do inside Iran, which is far away. I mean, we don't share any border with Iran.

I mean, it's hard to get in and to get out, or Iraq, or Syria, or other nations that we had to operate in. And the same way that we've infiltrated, I mean, in between a tougher organization called, as you mentioned correctly, I mean, Hezbollah.

Now Mossad is not dealing with Gaza Strip, and I say again, unfortunately. And you know, at the national level of of the the discrete things that you don't see on the national level history is that we do have two lines of defense. The first line of defense is the intelligence line of defense. And this one collapsed because we didn't have enough intelligence. Blankly.

I mean, in my book that I published recently in the USA too. uh the sword of freedom i mean you can you can read and learn. About my Willing. uh but my wishes to be part Of the battle in Gaza Strip. I offered my Mossad services.

To the Prime Minister and to my counterparts inside Israel, head of. Our Shin Bek, the like equivalent to the FBI, head of the military intelligence inside the Israeli IDF. Uh, in that idea, so and I was kicked out. I mean, I was not like welcomed with our whatever troops, operatives. And methodologists.

Why? Because they claimed wrongly that they have enough intelligence and they don't really need us. And this line of defense collapsed completely. I mean, we didn't see that. It's not a small operation that Hamas has conducted, right?

It's not one, yeah, it's huge. 1,500, maybe 3,000 people working together in one day, that's a big, big, big thing. Yossi Cohen, I'm just in awe of your career and your accomplishments and what you've done to make Israel one of the most formidable Military's and intelligence operations, and if not the most, in the world, and your contributions. I need another three hours with you, and I still wouldn't get the whole story. Hopefully, we can talk again.

Thank you very much. Thank you very much for having me. Yeah, you got it. Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead.

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Really, thanks, AOC. Day 16 of the shutdown, Tempers Flare and Democratic Socialists emerge as the leaders of their party. That is real bad news for the party, I'll explain. Number two. The biggest challenge is getting Hamas out of control of Gaza, and that's looking actually as elusive as ever.

And a big question is how much capital is Trump going to spend? If Hamas continues to take power, it's going to take buy-in from the Arab allies to really push them out. That is true, Josh. Gaza peace deal in the making. They're doing some in-game adjustments.

As Hamas refuses to put down their weapons and return 19 bodies of Israelis that they murdered. We got the latest. Number one. Would you give President Trump credit or not, to any extent, credit or not? I think it's too early to do so.

Too early to say so. But if it proves to be something that is lasting, something that is durable, then I think that that's where you give credit. Getting out 20 hostages isn't good enough for Zohran Mamdani, the unaccomplished 33-year-old mayoral candidate. Debate night for the New York City mayor's race. And the world is watching as the frontrunner Zo Ran Mamdani sits down with Fox and smiled his way through his wacky policies that made no sense.

Zavika, welcome back to the Brian Killmeat Show. What is life like right now in Jerusalem? Hi, Brian. How are you? Life is, you know, it feels like it's getting back to normal.

In a sense, Um it's not totally back to normal yet, but You know, we had some news this week. Yes, you did. First off, just a question. In the North, with the Hezbollah threat decreased, have people moved back into their homes? Yes, so yeah, so that's that's been already for a while.

You know, the homes except for the homes that were destroyed and that will take a while. But yeah, but people have have moved back and They see a lot less of a threat there.

So, no more rockets from Hamas, but you can't say Hamas is in your rearview mirror. First off, how did you view the phase one of this? of this deal.

So, I mean, I think first of all, it was an amazing accomplishment. You know, it's not something that was. That people thought would actually happen. Many people doubted it, and he made it work. Um We're still waiting to see what's with those with the bodies of the remaining 19 hostages.

But the fact that the 20 remaining Is just a breath of fresh air for Israelis. Like people are. Are so happy. Like they're the biggest celebrities that the country's had, you know, because people have been following them and their families for two years.

So, you know, and and and And you know, the re I mean they they went through a lot, but people are are You know, just starting to see some sort of an end, which is which is important. You put Donald Trump's likeness, his profile, on the cover, a silhouette on the cover of the Jerusalem Post. Why? So we we did that it was I think it was a week ago when they announced that this deal was actually signed or happening. And we we published his the silhouette with pick pictures of all the hostages that were you know remaining Because he made it happen.

And you know, you can't and you have to And you have to say thanks when it's due. Uh and it was definitely something that he deserved. Anthony Blinken, the former Secretary of State, said, Well, this was our plan. We had it first. He just executed our plan.

I don't believe that, but I was curious as you, editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post, Soveka, what do you say?

So Brian, I think Obviously, there are certain things that are similar. But Trump took a broader approach to this. The fact that we're seeing Uh Egypt and and Qatar pressure Hamas like we've never seen her do before. And Turkey, yeah, publicly.

Now, listen, am I a big Erdogan supporter? No, but, but. You know, they're pressuring Hamas. To end with this war and to move on and to disarm, et cetera.

So, and seeing these Muslim states publicly also say so, not just behind closed doors, but actually say it straightforward, like this needs to end, is something that probably wouldn't happen if, I mean, it definitely wouldn't happen if the elections would end differently, the presidential elections. Yeah, it was the number one, I think, Zavika, I think it was the fact that the president said, I'm going to support Israel on the offensive. No hedging, no limiting. I'm going to support. At the same time, he has relationships with the Gulf states.

And I know it wasn't too popular when he was and visited Saudi Arabia and Qatar and UAE and didn't end up in Israel. But he said, I know we're friends with Netanyahu and I are fine. I'm not, that's not what this trip's about. And it was it. Oh, I think I even asked you back then.

I think either you interviewed me or I texted you and I said, Brian, like, are we okay? Is Israel like, are we okay? Is he ignoring us? You know what I'm saying? Because he was in the region and he didn't come to Israel.

So, Israelis were. where for a moment they were like, wait. did he did he like why is he not visiting you know Um so but yeah, so I think that that definitely That definitely made things happen. It fortified the relationship between the other Gulf states.

Now, here's the biggest test.

So we see the execution of 33 so-called collaborators as Hamas tries to reestablish itself with, we think, 7,000 more fighters. I'm also seeing videos of different clans saying to Hamas, essentially, bring it on. And those are the ones that I think Israel has identified as clans they can work with.

So now, logically, I would love to see the Arab nations of Egypt, Turkey, Qatar stand up and go, hey, Hamas. Decommission your weapons, stand down. And enough no more executions. Does all of that have to come from us? And have you heard anything?

from those countries. I haven't yet heard from those countries on this topic. Those clans, again, those clans are Israel is working with them under the radar. Not, you know, it's like it's our enemy's worst enemy, right? That's what it is.

It's not like peaceful forces. The problem is, you know, these countries are You know, aren't willing to put their own soldiers there because they know what chaos it is.

So it's a very big question of how you could actually implement it. And it's a really big deal because no one wants to get near that area. You know, I spoke to people, you know, to. very senior people in the Gulf and they're like, we're not sending We're not sending people there like we'll pay. We'll pay someone, you know, but uh well it can't be you and And because you'll have another UNIFL situations where they just sell out to the terror group.

Number two is we know Indonesia said we'll do it. And we know it's going to be fifty billion dollars minimum to redo Gaza, get it up and running again. You got to destroy the rest of the tunnels. And we got to put in troops that Hamas would be afraid to take a shot at.

So Egypt would fill that bill, Doha Qatar would fill that bill, but have they rejected that premise? No, they haven't rejected the premise yet. And I think there will be countries that would. That would volunteer and actually take part in this. But it's something that also takes a while.

And President Trump doesn't have patience. He, he, you know, he wanted this to happen. And he launched it. And in his eye, you know, one thing I think Israelis are just worried about is. We wanted to keep on.

Uh being interested, right? Like don't just like look at this as As a success and move on to another conflict. No, we still need this support. Here's Ambassador Mike Waltz with me this morning on what needs to happen now after the executions on camera, caught, not caught, but they wanted it. They wanted everyone to see this.

CUP 36. One thing to understand is some of these countries need an international mandate, like through the UN, to contribute the troops. They need and want it according to their local laws or their constitution. And that's where we come in. We're working through all of those pieces right now as we speak.

He said the Arab world, Middle East countries really count on the UN. And he's a UN ambassador. And the US and Israel are very dissatisfied with the UN, but great potential, very, very close.

So he's saying that now they're coming to the UN. They want that stamp. That UN stamp.

So that's what Waltz has got to do, but it can't be UN white helmet guys. Right, the same thing is by the way, you know, Hamas wants the UN to distribute. The aid because they want it for themselves and not, you know, the GHF, the humanitarian foundation that was established by the United States and Israel.

So I think, yeah, we can't have it be the UN. And luckily, President Trump is not satisfied with the UN, so it would support us on that.

So you wrote a story about the release of the Berman twins from Hamas captivity as a miracle few will understand. Do you want to give us an idea of what you mean? Yeah, so I wrote this as a father of twins. I have twin boys. Um and There were a few, there were many, it's interesting.

There's a number of cases throughout this war where. There were hostages who were twins. Um, from the of the same sex, even like it was boys that were kidnapped and girls that were kidnapped, and they were separated and brought back together. And I said it was a very Dramatic statement that I, in my opinion, was: you know, as an Israeli, Americans wouldn't necessarily understand it. I would prefer to have both of my sons being kidnapped together, you know, as twins.

than one of them because separating them is just is is such a terrible Situation, but I think these twins who were kidnapped, they were both kidnapped, but they were held separately most of the time. will be able to heal together. Like they were at the hospital. And they asked to stay in the same room. Like they could have got their own room.

And I think it's a really special, it's a special connection there. And I'm actually waiting to hear their story. Oh, okay, to get it.

So nineteen bodies left. They have to turn them over, but they said they're going to need special equipment, Hamas, to get to them. Do you believe that? Uh I believe it on certain Uh on a certain amount of that nineteen uh of those nineteen bodies. I think there are others that they actually will be able to deal with.

It's really you know it's really an issue of putting a bit more pressure. That's what again Israeli sources are saying. But uh but you know I think I think they definitely probably need that equipment because we bombed The hell out of that place. And, you know, there's a lot of rubble. This looks like an earthquake and a tornado and a tsunami all at once.

And it would be tough to rebuild. But if they're shooting at you, it's not going to be rebuilt. I mean, what is the sense inside Israel? I mean, there's 7,000 fighters now without the protection of hostages.

So, I know there's a big sentiment in Israel right now. Let's just go in and wipe them out. That's not as because they're not already not fulfilling the deal. Right. What where does what's the public sentiment like as we watch them kill people that Israel maybe have felt comfortable dealing with?

Not using them as informants, but dealing with possible governorship.

So what is the sentiment in Israel about that, about taking action themselves again?

So I would say, so I would say the sentiment would be. If these bodies are not Given to Israel because they said they could return these bodies. That's part of the deal, right? They signed the deal, saying a number of people, right?

So if they don't actually. Abuy to their side of the deal. There would be a really big amount of Israelis that would say, as you said, go in, wipe them out, because now we don't have. the constraints of delivering hostages. And that was a big deal.

It was a very big humanitarian issue where the IDF, even though the liberal or progressive media sees Israel as an aggressor, Actually, it was very careful. uh during the the the war there. All right. Zavika, it's going to be an interesting time in Jerusalem. People are going to keep their eye on it because we want to see if they can get to the can reconstruction part.

And then, of course, in the perfect world, in come the Abraham Accords. And also to keep his eye on Hezbollah. How much has Hezbollah done? And what is left of Hezbollah? Not a lot, actually.

Hezbollah is a lot less of a threat than Hamas. I mean, could Lebanon take control of their country again? Not yet, but Israel's intelligence and presence. You know, intelligence, you know, presence and IDF presence there was so deep. That it allowed, you know, for Israel to do so many.

Truly amazing things there. And Gaza was a failure in that sense. It took a really long time. Two years is a very long time to to to have that battle and that that war. Absolutely.

Zavika will stay in touch. It's a very exciting time in Jerusalem, and hopefully, the good times roll now and peace breaks out everywhere. Zavika Carl. Brian, thank you, Brian. You got it.

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There is a real possibility that this war could pick back up again. Do you anticipate that happening? Hamas will be forced to comply, whether it's going to happen through the pressure of Qatar, Egypt, and our other allies, Turkey in the region, who again the president through just his sheer force of personality has brought this coalition together to put the diplomatic pressure on Hamas. But if that's not going to work, the military option has always been on the table. I wouldn't look at it as a return to war.

I would look at it as carrying out this plan, which has always demanded that Hamas must disarm. And again, this coalition is in agreement on one thing, which is that Hamas has no future in Gaza. That's Ellie Cohanen, who was the former State Department Deputy Special Envoy under President Trump, who knows the region well. Josh Crashauer joins us now, Fox News Radio political analyst and editor-in-chief of the Jewish Insider. Josh, so how would you talk about these last couple of days, really disturbing video emerging of Hamas executing people in Gaza while still waiting by the torturous place of 19 more bodies to emerge?

How fragile is this peace deal for you, in your mind?

Well, look, Brian, it's important to separate the remarkable achievement that President Trump achieved when it comes to getting the hostages back. And obviously. Yeah. Ceasefire and pause and the fighting, and doing it on good security terms for Israel. Yeah, no one ever thought in Israel that we could get the host they could get the hostages back.

Without having to essentially leave Gaza and make their security situation a little more vulnerable.

So, major achievement there. I think that often gets conflated with a lot of the other. In the 20-point plan that involve Being ousted from Gaza and imposing a moderate techocratic government with the help of Arab allies in other countries. And that is looking really challenging. I mean that is You know, the images of what got, I mean, this tells you everything about Hamas being the evil terrorist group that they are.

The second that they got back control of some of the territory, they ended up. state, you know, executing Palestinians they suspected as, you know, helping out. uh Israel. Uh that that's how evil and and terroristic uh the the the entity is. And uh that that is why Every everyone worth their salt was saying Hamas cannot be in charge of Gaza, but the challenge is how you y you know, it takes military effort or it takes a really muscular diplomacy to to push them out.

It doesn't look right now, at least from my my vantage point, that the Arab countries that were very supportive of this deal are necessarily doing the And it remains the question of how. Attune President Trump will be you know going forward to to ensuring that some of the points in that twenty-point plan actually get imposed. But that's the challenging part. I think a really difficult diplomacy of getting the hostages back and doing it on terms that are favorable to. Israel and its allies, very important.

But the the harder part is actually getting a Gaza back in and govern and Yeah but By the way, Brian, that's been the story of the Palestinian. uh experience. They just they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity in their leadership Uh has been endorsing terrorism and not been able to build the the the infrastructure of a of a governing state. Yeah, I want you to hear Dasha Burns last night on a special report for Politico, Cut 34. White House officials held a call today on background about this issue, and they sounded optimistic that things were proceeding as they wanted them to.

They disagreed with Netanyahu and Israel's characterization that Hamasis were negging on the agreement because they're being a little bit slower than they would like in returning those deceased hostages. They acknowledge that this is really complicated. And Politico has just reported that Indonesia, Azerbaijan, and Pakistan are talking about potentially sending troops in.

So that w that's a good that's a good group. Uh they just got to be the troops that Hamas will be afraid to shoot right and aggravate and that would be would understand that they'd have an enforcement. It wouldn't be UNIFL, it wouldn't be a UNRWA group or any UN group.

So I'll believe it. when I see it when you have Arab states that actually send in troops. To the Gaza Strip and risk their livelihood lives.

So you doubt it?

Well, that's part of the plan. That's part of the deal, right? So that is, but the question is, you often hear. especially in all these Arab capitals. Promises, but this has been talked about, Brian, for some time, even before the deal, like that, that the way to solve the issue and than Gaza is to actually have Arabs having a little more you know having a little more muscle.

imposing a settlement on on on on and kicking Hamas out. But I I I look I I will I I I know there's a lot of optimism from Jared Kushner and from The negotiators, who, by the way, just accomplished this remarkable deal. 20 hostages. I mean, that is just a remarkable accomplishment, but. It may be even tougher.

To oust Hamas. That's always been the sticking point. Hamas is not willingly going to leave, and it's going to take some kind of force or muscular diplomacy to push them out. All right, so I want to talk about today's mayoral debate. I know it's a New York story, but it's a national story when Mondami, Cuomo, and Slee were Gladdet.

And Mondami and Cuomo, Cuomo is looked at as the one with the legitimate shot of beating him, still trailing by about 13 points. Listen to what he was saying about Netanyahu yesterday. And he's not going to say foreign policy, but Netanyahu will come here for the UN. Cut three. You have said that you would arrest Netanyahu if he came to the United States.

You've been very outspoken in your criticism of him. Do you stand by that? You would arrest him if he came here if you were mayor? I've said that this is a city that believes in international law, and this is a city that wants to uplift and uphold those beliefs. The United States doesn't stand by the International Criminal Court.

It hasn't signed the Treaty for the International Criminal Court. The International Criminal Court, however, has issued a warrant for the arrest of Benjamin Netanyahu as it is. As the grounds in the United States, could you arrest him on? As it has for Vladimir Putin, I've said that I believe that we should uphold. Arrest warrants by the International Criminal Court, and that we should do so only in abiding with all of the laws in front of us.

I'm not going to make a new law. What's he even talking about?

So now New York City has their own laws different from our foreign policy? Yeah, look, a lot of points. Number one, it's just morally backwards to equate Benjamin Netanyahu, the the the democratically elected leader of a close U. S. ally to Vladimir Putin.

That's the kind of worldview that Mabani has.

Well, the International Criminal Court doesn't disseminate, as you know.

Well, that tells you. That's why we don't recognize why the U.S. doesn't recognize the International Criminal Court for those very reasons. But that's point number one. Don't tell that to George Cooney's wife.

Right. Well, I thought Martha did a really, really tough interview with Bob Donnie, and it was really notable that he actually spoke to the camera about how he was. apologizing for his comments about the police and funding the police and calling them racist. He does not, but he does not compromise. He does not give an inch on his very radical views.

Towards Israel, towards fighting anti-Semitism in the city, recognizing Hamas as a terrorist. I mean you saw the the exchange where she talked about what's going on in the news where Hamas is killing he killing Palestinians, which he's you know tried to pivot away from and ignore the the question, but it it du it makes you raise the the issue of why is it so hard for someone like Mabdani to attack Hamas or or to say that they're a terrorist group and uh to understand the difference between a terrorist group and the Democrat in a Democratic State of Israel, right?

So that that is that is the That is why, by the way, he's He's leading in the in the polls, but he's only polling around forty five percent. Most you know, Derek Adams won with with with over seventy percent of the vote. Usually if you're a Democrat in New York, you win overwhelmingly. There is a sizable if you look at the Quinnipiac poll, over hal if you combine Sleeward and Cuomo, over half of the New York City electorate won't vote for for Mamdani. Problem is you it's divided in two ways and that and that's part of the that's why Mamdani is the favorite to to win.

But there's a lot of Democrats, moderate Democrats and certainly Independents and Republicans. that that just can't stomach the guy.

So Akeem Jeffries and Sander Schumer, Radio Silent. No endorsement. Gillibrand, no endorsement, no condemnation. You know, you have people like Swazi say not my cup of tea, and Lauren Gill and Congress, the Democratic Congress people, more moderate. But listen to AOC, Cut 15.

You endorsed Joe Ronamond Domini in the New York City mayoral race, but several prominent Democrats, including Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, have not yet endorsed him. What do you believe this says about the current divide between the progressive and establishment wings of the Democratic Party? And what effect do you think this has on party unity?

Well, I mean I have uh stated this for quite some time. which is that Democrats have primaries for a reason. We may have our differences amongst one another within the party.

Some may be more conservative, some may be more liberal, or any other number of differences. That's what we have primaries for. I believe in endorsing the nominee of the party after a primary is has resolved itself. And I'm not going to play the rest of the sound by it because it's painful. But she does say, Look, do you think I want to do you think I want to endorse a moderate?

But if the moderate gets a nomination, I will endorse them. But there's a huge divide here, isn't there? Oh yeah. It's very unusual. for the leaders in you know, at least the congressional wing of the party and Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.

not to mention Kirsten Gillibrand as well, not to endorse. The party's mayoral nominee. You mentioned Gillen and Swazi. They are actually anti-Mubdani. They said they're never Mavdani.

They're never going to support him. But the problem is that. It's easy to not take not take sides or it to the credit of Swazi and Gillen to actually speak out about the guy being way out of the mainstream and being a radical, but ultimately no one's really organizing For Como. I mean, you have an alternative for Democrats on the ballot in Andrew Cuomo. Maybe he's not everyone's cup of tea, but there is.

They're not actually taking the steps of actually supporting the other alternative. And ultimately, that makes it seem much more political than than principled in that, you know, Chuck Schumer doesn't want the taint of Mamnani's mayoralty, if he's elected, to to spread to other New York Democrats or other Democrats across the country. This guy obviously is is is is far to the left of of most other Democrats. Trump and Republicans know that this create a lot of political problems for the party that this guy's gonna reflect on their national brand. And that's what they're worried about.

They don't want to be seen as connected to a guy who, especially if he governs the way he talks, Could lead to crises in the city and lead to real problems for New York Democrats and FBI. Hey, Josh, the governor's race goes heavily to a Stefanik has a much better chance if Donnie wins because people will see this horror show in New York City. And Stefanik is so competent and so strong for a Republican. I don't care, Republican or Democrat. She's a great politician.

and really knows the issues and knows New York and they know her.

Now when her name recognition goes up further, and Hokul to me is so beatable. Zeldin proved that. How do you feel Mondami's win affects the governor's race next year?

Well, look. A lot of it is how he governs. Like, if there are a lot of business leaders in the city that are trying to, I think, convince themselves that he's going to be more pragmatic than his. Rhetoric in the past has indicated, if that's the case. You know, maybe maybe the political impact is a little more limited.

I remember the 2022 midterms when Democrats actually did quite well, but they lost badly in New York across all these New York races, including Lise Hellman almost becoming governor. Because crime, immigration, and quality of life issues were.

So, such a problem under Democratic leadership that Republicans just really swept round the table throughout the state. And if Namdani governs as he's campaigned, and the crime goes up and the quality of life goes down, as a lot of people fear, that is going to spread. across the Democratic kicket and really be a weight on Kathy Hochul and other Democrats on the ballot in twenty twenty six. Let's talk about the Attorney General's race real quick. In Virginia, the Republican Jason Menieres seems to have a lead under a very star cross Attorney General, who just had a text message emerge that were 100% correct, that said that he would like to kill a Republican's family if he had the opportunity and had enough bullets.

What's your reaction to what's happening in Virginia? Yeah. TV in Virginia. A football game this weekend. Almost all the ad traffic was reminding voters about just how the endorsement, these text messages that Jay Jones, the Democrat, had.

Uh in bin Skills. Imagining violence against this political rival. And here it is. Three bullets, three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Paul Pott.

Gilbert gets two bullets in the head. Spoiler. Put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time. And then he went on to say basically it would be deserving if they killed his kids too, who were like three and five at the time. Yeah, I mean And even like Abigail Spanberger, who's the Democratic nominee for governor.

is not saying she's supporting she won't she Well say she's not not withdrawing her support for Joe. But but she's not she she knows that this guy is toxic.

So, you know, I I I it's probably safe to say Mayara is a he was b running behind.

Now I think he's probably a slight favorite. But look, the Democrats the the the the polling was very favorable for Democrats in Virginia. I think the government shut down or and then certainly the the Doge cuts. probably played to their favor earlier this year. But I think this issue is so I mean, all you have to do is turn on the T V in D C and if you live in in the D C area or you live in Richmond, you're seeing all those texts from Jay Jones being being flashed across the street.

The screen. I got to think it makes a big enough difference that he's in political trouble. And he's a law and this is a law and order position. Lastly, New Jersey governor, the Quintipiak poll, in my view, leans left, has Mikey Sherrill, a six-point lead over Jack Chitterelli, but they say it's a toss-up. And Mikey Sherrill now has a new explanation of why she didn't walk in her academy graduation.

First, she says, because I wouldn't give up any of my friends in a cheating scandal. And then yesterday or the day before, she comes out and says, hundreds of people in my class spoke to investigators when I was asked I did and told them what I knew. Excuse me? That's a totally different story.

So why were you not allowed to walk then? Yeah. I mean, that and she also tried to say that the somehow the the the the that the that information was released illicit illicitly, which you know, she's obv sh obviously the substance matters. Um look, I think it's a problem. I mean, it's why the race is close.

even though uh you know both in jersey and virginia whenever you have a president of one party, historically almost all the time, the the governor's race goes the opposite way.

So th those are the headwinds that the Republican nominees are facing. But Cheryl has proven that she's not really closed the deal in New Jersey, that polling still shows the race very competitive. And that scandal, that controversy and the fact that she's changed her story over her gradua Naval Academy graduation shows she still has a lot of vulnerabilities that are still yet to be litigated. When she couldn't answer Charlemagne the God's question, where did you get your $7 million and you were fined for basically insider trading? And did you know if you made $7 million?

I don't know. You think you did? Really? Long pauses.

So, I mean, she's a terrible candidate.

Well, excuse me, what's awkward for Cheryl? She's one of the richest. congressional districts in the country. She used to use you know, definitely who are out you know, that that's part of the problem for a lot of Democrats. that you have an affluent candidate that's out of touch with a lot of the working class voters.

Working class voters in New Jersey, Brian, swung dramatically to Donald Trump. In the last election.

So she's had some challenges, kind of the working class parts of the Democratic Party coalition haven't really connected with her, and she's had some real challenges on the campaign trail because of that. It's a fun time, Josh. Whoever thought an off-year election would have so much intrigue? I can't wait for the debates tonight in Virginia and in New York City. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Brian. Looking forward to it. You got it. And by the way, there's going to be two in New York. There's going to be one next Tuesday, I think, too, but there's definitely going to be another.

It's going to be exciting. Although, I'm going to the Al Smith dinner and I've got my tux. Hopefully, I didn't forget any of the apparatus that allows me to wear, I had to wear a white tie and a tux. I hope I didn't forget anything. Back in a moment.

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