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Giddy up, Griff Jenkins, filling in for the great Brian Kilmead on the Brian Kilmead Show. And having the time of my life, and now having the opportunity to bring in a really good friend, and I am so fortunate to call her a friend because she is among, if not the smartest woman I know, certainly in Washington. And that is Molly Hemingway. She and I actually are going to be on Outnumbered. You can catch us there.
She will say smarter things. I will say dumber things, but at least I'll have the honor of sitting on the couch next to her. Hey, Molly. Stop. It's great to be here with you.
Well, no, I mean in every way. And You know, all know Molly as a Fox News contributor because she does such a great job on the shows, but she's also the editor-in-chief of the Federalist. And her organization, The Federalist, has been the leader when it comes into finally uncovering the Russia hoax stuff, which, as we all now know, the recent history from DI Gabbard releasing information that has led to referrals to the DOJ that has now led to a pretty significant subpoena being issued by House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer that has subpoenaed. Former President Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and a long litany of past attorney generals and high-ranking officials with some connection to exactly what happened in the Federalist. And Molly Hemingway have been on the tip of the spear with that.
But, Molly, what I want to ask you. Is you see MSNBC and other channels basically just blowing this off, saying this is all about nothing, but you say it's actually about something.
Well, it's just fascinating to see the same people who spent all day, every day for like two and a half years freaking out about supposed collusion between Trump and Russia. I mean, we endured years of hysteria from people. There was no leak too small to impugn Trump as being an agent of Russia. And now that it's all unraveling with truly explosive leaks of information, or not leaks, releases of real information that you can actually look at and check out and analyze. The media are saying, a lot of these left-wing media people are saying, oh, there's just nothing to see here.
This is not interesting at all. And they're not serving their readers well because there has been a grand jury impaneled to handle this investigation. There is a strike force at the DOJ that has already begun working on this. A strike force is what the DOJ uses. To untangle really complex criminal conspiracies like the mafia.
And so we also know, and we reported at the Federalists this week, that an unnamed U.S. attorney has been gathering documents, additional supporting documents for those criminal referrals they received for Obama's top spy chiefs, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey. And so this is moving, and pretending that it's not happening is not a way to serve your readers or viewers. Yeah, you know, and I think, Molly, for our listeners and viewers that have sort of been following this, even on the surface, you start to see that particularly guys like John Brennan and James Comey could have some real problems, particularly based on just the information we're able to see with our own eyes and statements they've made in some cases under oath.
Well, this is, I would say, in particular, it's interesting to think about John Brennan, the former CIA chief, because the documents that have been released and the whistleblowers that are coming forward. Are saying that good career bureaucrats in the intelligence agencies were screaming from the rooftops. You can't make this stuff up about Russia preferring Trump when, in fact, the intelligence showed that Russia had no preference. They just wanted to mess with us. And then, and also that Trump was colluding with Russia.
You have good people screaming about it. They had their jobs threatened. They were told there was secret intelligence that they couldn't know about that John Brennan had. And because the conspiracy is ongoing, I mean, just in the last couple of weeks, you've had Brennan and Clapper and Comey saying that they're doing things to perpetuate that criminal conspiracy. And that is very bad news for them because it means that the conspiracy is ongoing.
And so if you're investigating these things, there's normally a five-year statute of limitations. But they're continuing to perpetuate it, which means that we still aren't counting the clock on those five years. And so that makes them very legally vulnerable.
Well, and you know, the defenders of the Brennans and Comeys of the World are saying that this is. All about political retribution, and there's scrapping for anything to try and do this, and that there's really nothing, there's no there. But you say there's maybe something there. Yeah, so it's just absurd to say that actually, and particularly after what the country endured under the Biden presidency, where you had literal raids of a former president's house and unfair lawsuits up and down the eastern seaboard. The reality is that what they did is extremely horrific.
They tried to coup a duly elected president. They caused damaging relations on a global scale. The idea that nobody would be held accountable for knowingly suppressing the real intelligence and manufacturing fake intelligence, working with their handmaidens in the media, destroying the first Trump administration, destroying the lives and bankrupting people when they knew it was all a lie. They knew it was all a Clinton-dirty op and they knew there was nothing to it. The idea that you wouldn't hold people accountable is just, you don't really have a country if you don't hold people accountable for this level of criminality.
And you do see in what has been released, and you know better than I, there's real connections with respect to Hillary Clinton and, in particular, one of her aides. Basically, Showing that we can see that there was a narrative being created. Oh, yeah.
So we and you know, some of this we've known, but we now see the actual details of it. I do think it's interesting that the Clinton you know, that Clinton came up with this plan very early in her campaign deployed it. We also knew at the end of the last Trump term that Russia got wind of this, but we have more details about how they got wind of this. Obviously, if Russia knew that Clinton was trying to do this, they had all sorts of opportunities to mess again with the election by deploying bad information. And rather than the FBI looking into this dirty trick or briefing Trump on what Clinton was planning.
They investigated Trump and his campaign affiliates. That is just really reckless behavior and had so much to do with people's lack of trust in the FBI, CIA, and other spy agents. And you know, sort of to that point, Molly, I just happened to be filling in at the White House as a White House reporter that day. And we go into the briefing room, and then Tulsi Gabbard comes out. I thought, oh boy, buckle up, we're in for something.
And one of the things we learned just on that first day was that Russia didn't appear to specifically favor Trump in this election. None of the intelligence showed that Russia favored Trump. The intelligence did show that Russia did not have a preference, that the goal of Russia was just to mess with us, to decrease trust in elections. And so what happened is that real intelligence, which was consistent throughout the Presidential season was suppressed. It was going to be briefed to Donald Trump and Mike Flynn as well as Obama.
And they knew they couldn't run the whole hoax if the real information came out.
So they suppressed the presidential daily brief and then they came up with a plan to manufacture a fake intelligence assessment that said the opposite, that said that Russia preferred Trump. And they immediately, like the day they decided to do it, they immediately leaked to the Washington Post and the New York Times out-and-out lies claiming that the CIA had conclusively determined that Russia preferred Trump. You know, you think about the Russia collusion hoax. A big part of it was that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election. But you can't have him colluding to steal the election if Russia didn't prefer him.
And so a big part of the lie was that they had to say Russia preferred Trump, even though the evidence never said that. It's Will Tain Country. Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through Thursday at FoxNews.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at Fox News Podcast.
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And let's walk this forward a little bit. And I don't want you to get ahead of any sort of reporting or scoops you've got coming from the Federalists. But, you know, if indeed with Chairman Comer speeding a former president, Bill Clinton in this case, former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, do we think they'll show, like, where is this headed?
Well, I actually think the more important thing would be the grand jury and the strike force and the U.S. Attorney at the Department of Justice. This is the first time that we've had a really clear picture. By the way, it's important. I understand why you're pointing that out now.
And I learned from you every time I talk to you. This is why, as I said in the open, you're the smartest gal I know and I learned so much for you. The grand jury is significant because, as with most grand juries, the bar is pretty low for an indictment because the information is basically one-sided. That's true, but it's more that they can actually just go get the information they need through subpoenas and allowing the subpoenas to proceed. Right now, we're in the phase where they're just collecting documents from the willing partners.
They will be interviewing willing participants, the whistleblowers who have been desperate to tell anyone, who have tried quite hard to tell people for the last eight years about what they went through when they tried to stop Brennan and company from doing this. Then once they've got all the documents and people, then they'll start going after people who were part of the criminal conspiracy, seeing what they have to say, seeing if they can share information about higher level targets. This could take time. I mean, this is how a criminal investigation that's this complex goes. And so people should not be expecting indictments anytime soon or even necessarily expecting indictments because I don't know who this U.S.
attorney is, but if he's a good one, he or she will be looking at the evidence before making a decision about whether to indict anyone. And so that could take some time, but we're in a totally different environment than when we had that previous special counsel, John Durham. He was fighting everybody at the FBI. He was dealing with a hostile CIA.
So he couldn't really get the information he needed, even as explosive as his report was.
So you say, don't expect anything quickly, but buckle up. We could see this actually continue to develop. Yeah, and I think that's why also you're seeing a lot of people in the media and these other people a bit scared. You know, when they say, this is no big deal, what they're really saying is, we really messed up and we are scared and terrified. And so I would also say even some of the media participants in this, like, they had to have known that this wasn't a real story that they were pushing.
And that might make even, you know, claiming to be a journalist is not protection from taking part in a criminal situation. Yeah, the White House is saying these people that won Pulitzer Prizes should be giving them back. They, of course, should have. I mean, it's just, once you realize that Pulitzers are generally given for participation in information operations as opposed to journalism, you're not so surprised when you see them given that way. But they really did discredit the entire Pulitzer.
I predict they won't give them back. No, I don't know. But listen, Molly Hemingway, continue to follow her on the Federalist. And of course, on Fox, you'll see the two of us on Outnumbered. Molly, it's great to have you here.
I'll let you get ready, and I'll see you on Outnumbered soon enough. See you soon. This is Jimmy Faleh, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding, it's only a three-hour show. Listen live at Noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com.
Mm-hmm.
