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Welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show. You already can tell this is not Brian, but Brian will be back real soon. This is Harry Hurley filling in for the great Brian Kilmead. Honor to be here. Always an honor to work with Allison, Pete, and Eric.
And Brian Kilmead, if you don't know this, I think you should, and I'm going to make it abundantly clear. Brian Kilmead, for at least the second consecutive year, Sits high atop what I call the Mount Rushmore of radio talk shows in all of America. Brian is ranked by Talkers Magazine, which is affectionately known for 35 years as the Bible of talk radio. Brian is the third most important radio talk show host in America.
So it's incredible. You can follow all things about the show at BrianKilmeadShow.com and then Brian at BrianKilmead.com, all the different books, and Brian will autograph them for you. They make wonderful gifts. We've done it. You will love it, you and yours.
And of course, the great work that Brian is doing with the live shows around the country, all of that is available at your Ready Reference at Briankilmead.com. Welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show. And as the fill-in guest host for today, what an honor. I feel like the. Guest host Joe Torrey filling out the New York Yankees lineup card, and the leadoff hitter is Derek Jeter.
I mean Griff Jenkins, the national correspondent for Fox News. You can follow Griff, Griff, at Griff Jenkins, at Griff Jenkins 2Fs in Griff. How are you, my long-term friend? Listen, Harry, don't sell yourself short because this is what a day off in New York looks like. This weekend, I was doing Fox and Friends weekend.
I'm going to be filling in for Fox and Friends a little bit. And Allison called me yesterday and said, hey, could you do a 9 a.m. hit? I said, no, you know, I got one day off in New York. I'm going to go do Soul Cycle.
And she said, it's Harry Hurley. I was like, hold on, full stop. I'll be there.
So I am sitting in the studio in my Soul Cycle outfit. I'm going to dash out of here after we talk. Plenty of time to make it, but I wouldn't miss this for the world because, you know, you talk about the great. Accomplishment of Brian to get to the third spot in the Talkers magazine. I remember meeting Michael Harrison of Talkers Magazine in the mid-90s when I started Oliver North's Common Sense Radio with Ollie North.
And we were always chasing number three because nobody was ever going to knock Rush off, and Sean was on fire. And so three was number one, and we finally hit it one time. And that is such an accomplishment. But in all of it, through all of it, our friendship began way back then. And you are one of the legends.
You are a cornerstone, a foundation block in talk radio. And when you take it really full circle and you talk about the context of why it matters, why talkers matters, why those of us that have been in conservative talk radio since the 90s, it's all because of the things that were front and center that Rush and Sean and guys like you were talking about and Ollie, which was border security. It was small government. And Griff and Ollie running for the United States Senate. He was willing to consider taking a hiatus from his radio program, which, as you just outlined, doing so well at, to become the United States Senator for the Commonwealth of Virginia.
And you know it, and I know it. He should have won that election. He sure should have. And, you know, Virginia is an interesting state because it's a prickly and purple. It's got a lot of rural red areas, and then, of course, Northern Virginia slants very blue and liberal.
But the point of all of this is that for those of us like yourself and me that really remember, you know, where this all started, where these ideas, the really think tank, the birthplace of this conservative, these conservative ideals. And now you look at how fast a guy named Donald Trump got things accomplished in just six months in his second term, it's remarkable. It's really breathtaking. And how cool to know that you and I are now on Brian's show, the number three in Talker's ranking, because this is where it all began. And this is where it will continue to originate, really, the forethought.
There's a lot of, obviously, media out there. More so than there was back in the day. But at the end of the day, talk radio is still king. There's no question. Griff Jenkins on the Brian Kilmead Show Newsmaker hotline, you know all too well that there is a Texas standoff right now.
Governor Abbott may take aggressive action several hours from now, later this afternoon, about what the Democrats are doing. For those who don't know, You have to have at least 100 members of the 150-member Texas House, their legislature, has to be present in order to conduct business. Democrats hold 62 of those seats, which means it's a majority House, but the Democrats. Fleeing at least 51 of them to another state, Illinois. I mean, you can't make this stuff up, Griff Jenkins.
They're trying to stop the Republicans in the redistricting. which could affect As you know, up to five seats in the House. That would probably be determinative in the 2026 midterm elections, which I think will come down to that small number for which party will have control. It's dramatic. The stakes could not be higher.
Your thoughts? My thoughts are that we will see, as you rightly point out, whether Governor Abbott will be able to actually expel some of these Democrats, which is what he's putting on the table.
So it's going to be something to watch. But I can also remember covering not so long ago when we had a batch of quote runaway Democrats who fled on buses in Texas. And how did that work out for them? Not very well. And at the end of the day, you know, the runaway Democrat label will apply, does apply fairly and accurately in this case.
And you can't separate the fact that nationwide, Democrats have Gone into the wilderness. I mean, CNN's data guru, Harry Anton, pointing out that the Democrats are basically messier than a hoarder's basement at this moment, just a pile of garbage. And that's on CNN that you're hearing this. But he's accurately saying it because he is compiling the polling across the board from the Wall Street Journal to NBC, CBS, everybody, record low approval of the Democrat Party. And then you point out that they don't have an actual leader.
There's no face of it. Gavin Newsome wants to be it. AOC wants to be it. Who knows? Jasmine Crockett's trying a shot at it.
But then you can't get rid of former President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, who is out there and won't go away, making a bigger problem for them. And yet.
Now, all of the sudden, any Democrat in Texas, and mind you, outside of the urban areas like Austin, Democrats in Texas are of the traditional blue dog Democrat. You know, they're pretty conservative, but they just tilt to the Democratic Party because whatever reason, they're seeing literally a group of state legislators that refuse to stand and put forth their agenda and policies. And just flee. And that's not, I don't think that's going to work out for them. I don't think that wins in any way.
You can't just say, I don't like the way this is going. I'm going to pack up my toys and go home. Griff Jenkins, the national correspondent for Fox News on the Brian Kilmeat Show Newsmaker Hotline, I could talk about this all day with you in terms of Governor Abbott's reaction. He called them the absconded Democrat House members. I could go all day on that, but I want to bring pop culture into this.
I want to make you feel like you're back doing what you did all weekend and doing it now here on the Brian Kilmead show when you were doing push-ups and sit-ups and the president's physical fitness. And Griff, I know you can get that patch. I know you can do it, Griff. I saw you.
Well, despite those five-year-olds and 10-year-olds telling me that I did not pass the test. Yeah, yeah, good form. Good form on all the above. I want to bring pop culture like you were with Rachel doing pop culture on the big Jumbotron. And I want to bring up Sidney Sweeney.
Never thought I would do that. And also. A generation or two ago, Brooke Shields with the Calvin Klein ad that, in my opinion, Griff, and we'll see what you think because you are young enough to remember both. That ad back in 1981 caused such a ruckus in terms of American pop culture. Not since then can I remember a jeans ad, the likes of which Sidney Sweeney, and this one confounds me, though, because there's really nothing about it that's remarkable.
They want to make a big case out of the fact that she's a registered Republican, but there was a big dust up about it even before that. Let's take a listen to two cuts, and then Griff, give us your best analysis on it. Eric Cut 16, the president. She's a registered Republican. Oh, now I love her aunt.
Is that right, is Cindy Sweeney? You'd be surprised at how many people are Republicans. That's what I wouldn't have known, but I'm glad you told me that. If Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican, I think her ad is fantastic. I cannot tell you how much I love that, but let's keep going.
Let's roll back the Brian Kilmead Show Wayback Machine to 1981. Brooke Shields, Calvin Kleins. Cut eighteen, Eric. The secret of life lies hidden in the genetic coat. Genes are fundamental in determining the Characteristics of an individual and passing on these characteristics to succeeding generations, which brings us to Calvin's.
and the survival of the fittest. And there is another famous line that we won't get into about nothing comes between.
So, in terms of that, She was a minor, so that's very controversial, I think. This Cindy Sweeney, she's clearly of majority age. They p did a play on genes with the G and changed it to the J. Nothing nothing crazy about that at all. But these two ads Drew the same kind of Sort of Just volcanic eruption.
Go ahead. Oh my gosh, you take me back, Harry. I was born in 1970, and I remember that ad. I got goosebumps when you played that ad. I haven't heard it in a long time because, if we're being honest here, you know, I was born in 1970.
That makes me just a little bit younger than her. I remember watching that and ogling over that ad, thinking, you know, treating her like the hot sister of my best friend. Every guy my age was head over heels for that ad. And obviously, for females of the same age, you know, everyone ran out to buy those Calvin Klein jeans. And you have to wonder, now that you're sort of connecting these dots, whether or not some smart executive in the boardroom thought, you know what we should do to bring American Eagle back?
Let's get a Brooks Shields ad going again. It's been years since. Since anyone tried that, as you point out, and look at what happened. And then now, obviously, with the news, you know, when the news broke that she was a registered Republican, the internet broke. Like, literally.
But, Griff, let me prove how on point I think you are with your analysis that is spot on on the Brian Killmeat show because American Eagle let. This simmer. They didn't come out woke, broke, joke, and answering with crazy response to it. They let it percolate out there. I think it was like for four or five days.
And then they come out with a really measured comment that celebrates Sidney Sweeney. and the great jeans. Didn't apologize for anything. I think you're right. I think they knew that they were really going to just set off a pop culture bomb.
Yeah, they're doubling down. And look, the billboard with her looking very attractive in Times Square, you know, I've walked through there since I've been here the last few days, and everybody looks up at it. It's accomplishing 100% the goal they wanted it. And I think they let it hang it out there. And now I can't wait to see Harry what Sidney Sweeney does next.
Well, I think they should have a continuation. They should have a little novel going on here. There should be a follow-up ad. Oh, a hundred percent. Brooke Shields didn't go away quickly.
Yeah, this is uh I mean, and the reaction of the President when he finds out that she is a registered Republican, oh, now I love her ad, is just priceless.
So they I mean American Eagle hit a home run here, even in areas that they could not control. Without a doubt. And look, at the end of the day, you compare and contrast this to, we also saw in the same week the CEO of Jaguar resign after that ridiculously woke ad of androgynous alien beings doing some sort of gender-neutral ad that doesn't even feature a car. Griff Jenkins, national correspondent for Fox News, after working all weekend, guest hosting Fox and Friends. Thank you for appearing on the Brian Kilmeat show.
It's always great to talk to you, Harry, and we'll have to follow up a conversation at some point because we are hitting record number border numbers record low. It is remarkable, and this administration continues to march on. Without a doubt. Thanks for being my friend, too, Griff. You too, buddy.
Have a great one. Take good care. We're going to be right back. It is a busy Newsday, I promise. And the guest lineup today on the Brian Kilmeat show is over the top.
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Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. My political advice to the Democrats is to continue to tell everybody who thinks Sidney Swinney is attractive is a Nazi. That appears to be their actual strategy. I mean, it actually reveals something pretty interesting about the Dems, though, which is that you have like a normal all-American, beautiful girl doing like a normal jeans ad, right?
They're trying to sell jeans to kids in America, and they have managed to so unhinge themselves over this thing. And it's like, you guys, did you learn nothing from the November 2024 election? Like, I actually thought that one of the lessons they might take is we're going to be less crazy. The lesson they have apparently taken is we're going to attack people. As Nazis for thinking City Sweeney is beautiful.
Great strategy, guys. That's how you're going to win the midterm, especially young American men. I really believe that's why people love Vice President J. D. Vance.
He just tells it like it is. And always remember this. I believe this is one hundred percent transferable. Whenever one side is playing a Hitler Nazi theme, You are losing badly. This is the Brian Kilmead show with Allison and Eric.
I'm Harry Hurley filling in. When we come back after the bottom-of-the-hour break, During his time in the People's House, Congressman J. D. Vance was one of the most significant voices in America, a tremendous national leader, not just for his district in Arizona, which he was terrific, but His national Timber. Just outstanding.
And we have a lot to talk about with Congressman Hayworth. He left the House of Representatives after the 2007 session. We'll catch up with him: what he's been up to, pharmaceuticals, President Trump, and his thoughts on that, and more. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. It's Will Kane Country.
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Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison and Eric. I'm Harry Hurley, filling in today for the great. Brian Kilmead. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. And on the Brian Kilmead Show Newsmaker Hotline is former United States Congressman J.D.
Hayworth. And he represented both the sixth and the fifth. congressional districts of the great state of Arizona. Congressman Hayworth, welcome to Brian's program.
Well, Harry, it's good to be with you and your associates in for Brian today. I'm honored to be with you. Honored to have you. And for our listeners' information, Congressman Hayworth has been actively involved in many, many different ways and discussions regarding the pharmaceutical industry, particularly the cost of prescription drugs. And Congressman Hayworth, as you know, President Trump sent letters to 17 of the world's largest drug makers, including Eli Lilly and Company, Novo Nordisk, Pfizer et al., and he's insisting on lower prices.
It's always been my thought, Congressman Hayworth, that America does much of the research and development for the world. We have our intellectual property ripped off in many cases, as you know, just in general, and also during your time as a great congressman. What are your thoughts about this?
Well, first of all, Harry, please call me JD. And number two, when we're dealing with this, the President is absolutely on target. Because it's tough enough when we're talking about the health of America, but it's tied to the family budget. I mean the fact that Americans are paying three, on average, three times as much. As prescription drugs recipients in our neighbors to the north or in Europe, in the developed countries of the world, that's just wrong.
And so the American taxpayer is getting a double whammy. We're getting hit both in terms of what we are putting down to pay for prescription drugs, but also we're financing a lot of it through our tax dollars. Look, big pharma, big is almost an understatement. Those 17 companies, and really, when you take a look at all the companies, Nobody's against profit, least of all Donald Trump, as you know. But there's a difference between profit and profiteering right now.
Big Pharma is making three, pardon me, twice as much in terms of profit margins, like 76%. That's what they're pulling down as opposed to the other companies on the SP 500 who earn half as much. Nobody's opposed to profits. We're opposed to profiteering. And when it comes to intellectual property, understand, Harry, that's a two-way street.
I share your concern about ripping off American technology, but there's also an orderly way to have patents dealt with and to bring down prices through justice. generic drugs. What's been happening is big pharma has been involved in something called patent thicketing, where they delay the process.
So they're two very different problems, one on a global scale, literally ripping off American technology, but here closer to home and well internationally for big pharma slowing down the access of cheaper drugs. We are visiting with former Congressman J.D. Hayworth on the Brian Kilmead Show. I'm almost sure I've heard you talk about this, what I'm about to bring up, J.D., and it would seem that this could be a big part of solving a lot of this price issue that President Trump, you, and others have, and that would be the most favored nation policy, which would ensure that the American people would pay no more than the lowest price for drugs paid anywhere else in the world. Would I mean, sometimes we don't have to overthink it.
How would most favored nation status work with this?
Well, you know, Harry, I'm so glad you brought that up because my old committee ways and means you could get involved in legislative artana, but you really hit on it. The idea of most favored nation status, President Trump, Secretary Kennedy, the other fine folks like Dr. Oz working now in terms of public health, if you will. Mm-hmm. They're saying, look.
Let's make America the most favored nation. Let's put America first instead of putting America last. And you know what, Harry? This is something you and I have been behind the microphone and we've heard about how polarized America is. I got to tell you, last year, sure, it's a contentious election year 2024, but the Kaiser Family Foundation polling last year found that 89% of Republicans, 84% of Democrats, 78% of Independents, heck, almost 80%.
all believe that big pharma puts profits over really helping people. That's the fundamental problem here. And now new polling shows that 86% of Americans are going to support a member of Congress or a candidate for Congress who stands up to big pharma in the upcoming midterms. Former United States Congressman J.D. Hayworth on the Brian Kilmeat Show.
We're talking about pharmaceuticals. Let me bring up a question that I think you are uniquely qualified to answer because you left The House of Representatives, the People's House, following the 2007 session.
So you have nearly what, it's not a quarter of a century, but 23 years, whatever it is, since you were in Congress.
Sometimes people say the more things change, the more they stay the same. When you were there, a billion was a big deal.
Now it's a trillion is a big deal. But how have things changed since you left the Congress?
Well, you're right. A lot of things don't so much change as they get inflated. And that's what we've seen with the incredible runaway spending. Uh it it's just unfathomable. What we've seen happen, and this not only occurs, with government, but as a consequence, with private business.
Uh and when you take the the privacy out of it, when you when you try to uh Come into a situation. We set up, for example, when I was in Congress, prescription drugs. Under Medicare. Why? Because seniors need them.
And indeed, when you look across the board now, almost a third of Americans, as Dr. Oz was pointing out yesterday on one of the Sunday shows, almost a third of Americans can't afford their prescription drugs. And part of it is the overall physical insanity. The Biden bunch spent. Gosh.
I don't want to don't want to insult drunken sailors. They were thrifty compared to Biden, Harry. Yeah, you'd be insulting them. That's funny. But you know, the whole the whole deal is we've spent money like crazy.
President Trump is trying to get our fiscal house in order, but it extends beyond government spending. It looks for a public-private partnership where businesses step up to the right thing. Profits, yes. Obscene profiteering, no, and putting Americans first. The other thing I got to point out, and I'll raise my hand.
Maybe you heard about the report that Secretary Kennedy and the Make America Healthy group put together. They found that almost for 20 years, Big pharma both on Capitol Hill and around the country in the fifty state capitals. Spent something like, what, six billion dollars, five to six billion dollars. On lobbying efforts and another $6 billion on trying to set up, quote, advocacy organizations around the country. Man, they've been spending money like crazy, and nowhere do we see it more, Harry, than in terms of direct-to-consumer advertising.
$36 billion going into that from big pharma, while only 17% of their profits have been devoted to research and development.
Something's wrong with that picture, something's wrong with that balance sheet, and it shows you what's been going wrong and has gotten worse and why President Trump took the step of writing those companies as you pointed out Thursday, trying to move forward in terms of most favored nation status for America for a change, putting Americans first rather than putting Americans last. J.D. Hayworth, the former congressman from Arizona, an exceptional talker in our industry, as you can tell. And I know this. Is not shtick, what I'm about to say.
This is very real, and we all hear about it on a fairly regular basis. Seniors on a fixed income that literally cannot afford their medication, that start making their own decisions about cutting pills in half. And as you know, some pills you shouldn't cut in half, some it's not a problem, but there is an issue with cutting some medication in half because it's supposed to maybe be time release and things, things like that. But they're cutting this stuff in half, skipping doses to make it stretch. And this is the United States of America, JD.
We can't have that. We've got to fix that. It is long overdue, Harry, and that's what and this is the other thing. Again, we talk about how polarized it is, and everybody in each other's throats. The fact is that President Trump has tried to reach out.
Meantime on Capitol Hill, far from the roar of the grease paint, the smell of the crowd and the sound bites or tweets of the day, there are really bipartisan, heck, nonpartisan solutions. because this is a problem that we have to deal with not as Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, Vegetarians, but as Americans. We get back to doing that, and that will be the best prescription for success for all of us. JD, tell me if this is still the problem that it used to be. I suspect that it is because I haven't heard that it's been resolved.
It's one thing, the price controls and all this stuff that comes up, you know, where we're importing under foreign price controls and things like that. But also, for example, antibiotics. Much of the antibiotics that we use here in America come from China.
So, really, anytime they would want to get a little funny, a little goofy, we're relying on China for our antibiotics. Do we have to get out of that reliance, in your estimation? I believe that the best thing for America, and since you called New Jersey home, it used to be so much of the pharmaceutical industry was headquartered in New Jersey. We we need to see the jobs come back. Again, that's part of this This all-encompassing plan that President Trump and Secretary Kennedy are working on.
It's up to my old committee, Ways and Means in the House and the Senate that works in mysterious ways. It's time for everybody to deal with this because the American people, over 80% of the American people, regardless of party, say we need to make a change. And for America, let's put America first, not only in terms of prescription drugs. Pricing favorability for our citizens, but also ensuring safe supplies. And you and I are singing on the same page of the hymn book on this one, Harry.
I personally believe it's better if it's made right here at home. Yes, exactly. The Big Bridge used to read in the capital of New Jersey: what Trenton makes, the world takes. We were big time a manufacturer. And I believe that's what President Trump is achieving.
A lot of people complaining about tariffs and whatnot. But if we encourage manufacturing here in our country, for example, I won't buy a flag. I fly a flag at our home every day. I will not buy a flag from China where they have 49 stars. They're punking us out and shorting us a stripe, a star, and doing goofy stuff.
I won't do that. I buy the American-made product. I think that could get in vogue again. Your thoughts, Congressman?
Well, again, Harry, you're setting the pace for others to. Follow. That's the way it is out here at the Hayworth Hacienda in Arizona. Miss Mary's a smart shopper. We believe that.
And you talk about flags.
Well, it permeates every part of our lives, and we have to understand you cannot and I think J.D. the Younger, Vice President J.D. Thanks, spoke of this the other week when he talked about the American citizenry is not some cog in the global economy that's interchangeable with taking manufacturing jobs overseas. Pride in America begins literally at home. both with jobs and when it comes to pricing and putting Americans first.
JD, what would be the order right now if you were the czar and you could put this down? In the order that we need to do things, what is the first thing? Maybe it's President Trump's letter to 17 of the world's largest drug makers, basically telling them that we're not going to be paying these high prices anymore. But what's the order of events here? Do a little outline for us.
Well, boy, you're giving me the power that I haven't had. But if I were able to, you know, George W. Bush, with all the disagreements I had with him, he said, well, it'd be easier to do this if this was a dictatorship, but it's not. You're dealing with Congress, but there is a favorable environment. The President has laid out the template.
You mentioned the letter.
Now what Secretary Oz has talked about and he was very blunt yesterday on one of the Sunday shows saying the time for global free loading is over. Hmm. Unabashedly, we have to put America first. And by the way, those listening to our conversation can find out more at the website PharmareformAlliance.com. A lot of this dealing with this specific issue.
But it is important for my old committee, Ways and Means in the House. To codify, to put together the most favored nation status bill, to put it into law to extend beyond the presidential executive order. Exactly. Because once you codify this, you make it part of the policy framework, the executive and the legislative checkoff. It's a one-two punch that has to happen.
Those are the first steps. The other thing. And some folks may talk about this in terms of direct to consumer advertising. Understand, only two nations in the world allow it. the United States and New Zealand.
And as there are a few old Washington-wise men left, one of them used to work with me, and he said, free speech ain't free when you and I are paying for it. And when you see the prices being paid and those profit margins I talked about, what's been going on is big pharma has been advertising on the backs of American consumers.
So there's a bill in ways and means to say, look, you want to advertise, well, okay, but tax breaks for advertising, favorable tax credits for big pharma at least will go away. Final seconds, J.D. You've done this job, so you know that. Final seconds. I appreciate this conversation, and I know that Brian's listeners do, and I believe the president's letter giving them 60 seconds or giving them 60 days will make a difference.
JD, great to be with you. Hey, Harry, wonderful to be with you and with Brian's audience in addition to your own longtime audience back in New Jersey and beyond. Thanks so much. Take good care, my friend. This is the Brian Kilmead Show.
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It's Brian Killmead. Would you encourage former Vice President Kamala Harris to run for president in 2028? I would encourage Vice President Harris to follow her heart. I haven't talked to Kamala about what her plans are. I think what we need is the ability to make sure that we can build that coalition of 55, 58%, win decisively, turn our back on this divisive Trumpian era of politics.
Notice no one could answer the question. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison and Eric. I'm Harry Hurley, filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead. Another item: Kamala Harris herself was asked about her future, about who the leader of the Democrat Party is. Wouldn't you think the immediate past Democrat nominee?
Who was being considered for possibly that she would run for governor of California, that maybe she would pass on that because Nixon ran lost, and he was fortunate enough to be able to lose and lose the presidency and then governor of California. But she didn't want to create that specter. And so you still don't know if she's going to be a candidate in 2028, and no one wants to encourage her to be a candidate, and she herself. Can't say who the leader. We have a lot of leaders.
Oh, really? Are you one? I mean, incredible. We'll be back on a busy Newsday. This is the Brian Kilmead Show.
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The New York Post columnist, you can follow him at MGoodwin. That's W-I-N at the end. M Goodwin underscore dash NY Post, New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin. Michael, welcome to Brian's program. Yeah, thank you, Harry.
Great to be with you. Let's begin. I mean, it shouldn't even be an opinion column. It should be listed in the non-fiction section of the library as absolute fact. But it is nonetheless a Michael Goodwin opinion op-ed piece.
Michael Goodwin, the two-state delusion must be scrapped. A jihadist state would solve nothing. I couldn't agree more. I want to talk about your views on that and remind all of Brian's listeners that sometimes they talk about how it's not your enemies. You have to worry about it, it's your friends.
Emmanuel Macron coming out and acknowledging and supporting a Palestinian state. Thank you, not Macrone, Canada's Mark Carney, Ditto, and Keir Starmer, maybe the less profile courage award of the year. If this, that, and the cat has kittens and all these other conditions, he'll do it too.
So, three great Mm-hmm. American allies, when they understand the view and the position of the American President and also the Prime Minister of Israel. Thank you very little for this, Michael.
Well, you know, Harry, the thing about it that really struck me that got me fascinated by it was Um Each of these three countries is beset by Um many Muslim immigrants, there are all kinds of Problems resulting from this unchecked immigration into Europe and Canada, just as America is having its own problems. And it struck me that what they were doing was really captured by a 19 Um forty Winston Ch Churchill speech. that he gave very soon after becoming Prime Minister. And he talked about an appeasers are those who feed the crocodile in the hopes that they will be spared or devoured last. And of course this was in the the immediate aftermath of Neville Chamberlain, his predecessor, and of course what Chamberlain had said and done about Hitler.
He really wants peace. By that time, by the time that Churchill made that comment, World War II had already started. And he was talking about. the reasons why the hopes for peace had been shattered, which is they were delusional. They were based on an illusion that that Hitler really wanted peace.
And I I apply that same idea to these guys today, these three leaders we talked about, offering a Palestinian state. It is, as President Trump correctly says, a reward to Hamas. For what they did October 7th and what they continue to do with the hostages. I mean, starving them, using them for For public relations purposes, it's shameful. And this idea that.
a Palestinian state. Can be created that will live in peaceful coexistence with Israel. The Hamas and so many Palestinians want to destroy Israel.
So this idea that you can just kind of birth a new country and it'll be a peaceful neighbor, it's foolhardy. It's another form of appeasement. And Michael Goodwin, the reason that Churchill was back. was because of the weakness demonstrated by Neville Chamberlain. Yes.
And I think weakness always begets more problems. And that's what we're seeing today. I mean, the United Nations had a conference on this so-called two-state solution, which I think is a delusion. There is no two-state solution. There is only a formula that will create more war.
So if you really want a solution, you've got to somehow deny this desire. By uh too many people in the world to eliminate Israel. The and sh if if That is part of the birth. of a Palestinian state. You are setting the stage for endless rounds of bloodletting.
Michael, how degraded is Hamas right now?
Well, they are degraded but not defeated. And I think that's part of the problem here. I mean, they continue to hold hostages, they continue to make attacks, and they obviously have enough money and they continue to have influence that the Prime Minister of Great Britain, of Canada, Macron in France, that they could come up with this idea now, I think, shows how the the how Hamas has influenced the debate. And I return to President Trump's observation, to give the Palestinians a state now would be a reward to Hamas. And he said, thankfully, the U.
S. is not in that camp. I mean it's hard to it's hard to beat that for the most important statement in a while.
So true. Michael Goodwin visiting on the Brian Kilmead show. Michael, let's move on to another issue because this is bigger than the Lone Star State. This could be the 2026 midterm election decider, and that is if Texas can redraw a new house map. Pick up five additional Republican seats.
This midterm election is going to be, what do they call it, tighter than a tick. It's going to be really, really close. This is a big deal. As you know, the Democrats are taking a vacation right now in the state of Illinois, about 51 of them, to keep the Texas legislature's number under 100 so they cannot conduct business. And of course, Governor Abbott is ready to strike back.
There's a lot of moving parts here. What is your analysis of this?
Well, look, the reapportionment game has been a big democratic Fixation for some time. I mean, back i in New York, um they it led to this incredible controversy that went on for years. about redrawing the maps. to uh you know, it it's always this tug of war. Is it is it you know, every ten years you you're required to do it b because of the census.
Is it what's the purpose of it? It's supposed to be to create compact, contiguous uh districts that are of similar size in terms of population. And as the populations change, I mean, Texas is growing, right? New York is shrinking. And the overall balance should shift.
And it should, in some way, you would think, reflect the election results But but they're often independent of reality. It's a it's a it's a Solution devised by the governing party in each state. And they both, of course, try to maximize the number of seats You know, it's like this old line in New York, uh, in in The idea of elections is that the voters choose their representatives. In New York, the representatives choose their voters. Uh and they do it through this Pakamami redistricting schemes.
And this is not new. In 2021, Democrats did it then. They did a 38-day type standoff where they left for Washington that time. This time they're going to Illinois, and I think they're there to oppose new voting. You know, I think then it was voting issues that it wasn't exactly what it is now in terms of redrawing the House map.
But whenever they, in the minority, they don't want the majority to be able to conduct business, they just leave. And then it's ha ha ha, you can't govern. We're just leaving until you stop these ideas that we don't agree with. That's not, I don't think that that's a good way to govern, Michael.
Well, it's effectively going on strike, right? I mean, they're going on strike by leaving town, leaving the state. I mean, it's instructive that they go to Illinois and Chicago, which I don't know, the crime race in Chicago. I'm not sure that's where I'd spend my vacation. That's a good point.
Very, very good point. Michael, with all that's going on, and there's so many to choose from, we literally have a cornucopia buffet of issues that are going on because we obviously have a president that I often remark, he just moves at the speed of Trump. There's just so much that's going on. What's on your radar?
Well, look, I think that You know, there's so much sort of day by day things happening every day. But I think if we pull back the camera just for a second, Harry, and you look at some.
sort of the Trump presidency. I think it's fair to say he has redefined the presidency. I mean, we have never had a president so active and so public with his activities.
So accessible, right? I mean, hardly a day goes by when the media isn't either in the Oval Office or on Air Force One or catching him outside the White House. I mean, he really is an open book in so many ways, and you compare him to. To the elusive Joe Biden, right? But even before Biden, I mean, you know, Obama was never this accessible.
Certainly, George W. Bush was not comfortable with the media. But we've never seen a president who has used television, used the bully pulpit, and yet been so cautious. clear And so, I mean, you can ask him uh virtually anything in these settings and he'll answer it. And the Sweeney, for example.
He'll answer anything you pose to him. They said, Hey, Mr. President, Sidney Sweeney is a Republican. What are your thoughts about Sidney Sweeney? Oh, she's a Republican.
I love her ad now. He will answer everything, Michael. You're right. And I and I think this has in a way put the Presidency at the center of the news of the day every day. And it it's hard We've never had a president like that, and I'm not sure.
Um Who else could do this and pull it off? Because he really is a master of communication. That's a great point. Michael, it's true. Hasn't President Trump also reset the world?
Because the previous President, Joe Biden, was absent, so that void was filled in other ways with both bad actors that became more problematic during the Biden years. President Trump, I don't think it's a stretch to say, and it's not just the tariffs, which I do want to mention at the end. We're down to about two minutes. He has reset the world, hasn't he?
Well, yes. I mean, and I think that when you see him on foreign soil, there is a groundswell of support for what he's done for America. People want that for their own countries. They want you know, better government, they want more favorable taxes, fewer regulations, they want immigration control. I mean, look what's happened to Europe.
What we were talking about before with thanks to Angela Merkel primarily and in her long tenure in Germany, she threw open the borders to Syrians originally. But I think they so they have many of the same problems that Joe Biden created here were created by various leaders in Europe. Of course, the taxes are higher. You know, they pay ridiculous amounts of money for gasoline. And of course, the regulations, the European Union with telling farmers how big their apples have to be.
And so you have all these revolts in Canada by farmers and in Europe.
So I think that kind of Business-friendly, taxpayer-friendly policies that President Trump. Stands for are popular around the world. The idea of, imagine America first, Britain first, Germany first, France first. I mean, I think all of those countries would welcome that kind of platform. Michael, about 30 seconds before a hard break, but I think it's very important that we get your take on the Brian Kilmeet show, Michael Goodwin, on tariffs.
I know the story is still unfolding, but what we know right now versus what was said in the beginning by the legacy media, how do you think the tariffs are playing thus far? Look, I think the President is very happy with the results. I mean, in the conversations I've had with him about this, none more none recently, but it was always about the amount of tariffs that America would collect. That was always something that he viewed as an untapped resource for our country that he said we're going to make so much money. And it's one of the reasons that June the budget was positive I mean, we're running yearly deficits and we have a big debt, but the actual Income versus outlays in June was positive for the first time, I believe, in a decade or something like that.
So that's one advantage that he seizes on.
So people see tariff, they hear the word tariff, and the left goes crazy and all that. But for him, it serves America in various ways. I think. He would have helped himself more in the beginning. I mean, that Liberation Day, April 2nd, I think, backfired on the economy, backfired on his public relations.
And so I think people didn't fully understand.
So the first time that we're talking about the 2B continued, could talk to you all day, but we literally are at a heartbreak. Love the conversation. Until next time, we will be right back. It is the Brian Kilmead Show. You're with Brian Kilmead.
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We'll be right back. It is the Brian Kilmead Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. She's a registered Republican.
Oh, now I love her ad. Is that right? It's Cindy Swin. You'd be surprised at how many people are Republicans. That's what I wouldn't have known, but I'm glad you told me that.
If Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican, I think her ad is fantastic. That's President Trump, but he has weighed in further now. Just a little while ago, this is today. On Truth Social. At Real Donald Trump.
Sidney Sweeney, a registered Republican, has the all caps hottest ad out there. It's for American Eagle, and the genes are, quote, flying off the shelves, end quote. Go get them, Sidney. On the other side of the ledger, Jaguar did a stupid and seriously woke advertisement. That is a disaster, all caps.
The CEO just resigned. The company is in turmoil. Shouldn't they have learned a lesson from Bud Light, which went woke and essentially destroyed in a short but very woke campaign? The company? The market cap destruction has been unprecedented.
All caps, billions of dollars lost. Or just look at woke singer Taylor Swift. Ever since I alerted the world as to what she was saying on truth, that I can't stand her. That's just a post of a little while ago where President Trump again demonstrates he will comment on everything, pop culture to the most serious issues of the day. Greg joins us in open forum in the Brian Kilmead Show.
Phone lines are open at 866-408-7669 with Allison and Eric. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead, who has the day off. Greg, welcome to Brian's program. Hello there. And I know you want to talk about Sidney Sweeney.
Go. Yeah, well, thank you very much. I don't really want to talk about her, but I think when you hear this new ad brother, What is a woman? Sidney Sweeney.
Well, Sidney Sweeney, I mean, what American Eagle, you talk about lightning in a bottle.
So they do a commercial that should not have been controversial at all. They're selling jeans. Sidney Sweeney is a beautiful model. And the left went absolutely crazy. And as they always do, Greg, they go too far.
Somehow they tied the genes into. Nazi Germany, Hitler. I mean, they're just completely unhinged. And this is what you get. And now you're going to probably see this is going to, this will continue.
Yeah, it's a horrible, uh thing to have happen and continue to happen. in the United States and around the world, really. It's just it's Hard to believe that someone would go down that road.
Well, you think about this. We've got a lot of pressing issues, obviously. We covered healthcare and pharmaceutical in particular with J.D. Hayworth. There are many, many issues right now.
And somehow, one of the biggest issues in America, if you go look at any social media, any digital platform any spoken word platform, Sydney Sweeney will be not in just the top ten, but in the top five of what's being discussed. Greg in Florida, great to visit with you on the Brian Kilmeet Show. We go to New Jersey, my home state, Allison's home state. Erica, is it your home state? It is.
So we got the trifecta. I thought Pete did, but Pete's right next door, I think. Blanche in New Jersey, welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show. Hi there. Hi, Harry.
How are you? I am very well. Oh my gosh, what an honor. How folksy and home can that be? Blanche, great to visit with you.
Your thoughts. I know you want to talk about the world now versus then. Yeah. I'm I'm kind of Mm-hmm. concerned because even though I know Trump is on the right track, You know, what's your opinion on how he is going to bring things back to what we remember I'm so worried for my kids that.
The future you know, the anxiety that it's bringing Um you can't even walk into a store without somebody being offended about something, it's And also, you go into the stores with things that are locked up under lock and key because they have to be, because these stores can't even stay in business because they're getting ripped off. And then, of course, the Democrat philosophy of governance is that you steal and you don't get charged, and then you can steal more. And then, of course, the stores have to close. Then they complain when the stores close, but they have no choice. On the topic of bringing stuff back.
some things will be brought back. There is a nostalgia in America. You see a lot of reboot things, a lot of sequels to movies. Adam Sandler with Happy Gilmore II, a latest example.
Some things will come back. And a karate kid, things will come back. that the public clamors for.
Some things, Blanche. They will not come back ever. They're gone.
Well, I can tell you that, you know, at this point. Already a very big conglomerate that my husband works for is closing 14 businesses, including where he works.
So at the end of this year, We're looking for, I mean, and my husband's 67, I'm 60. Who knows what the heck's gonna go on? Blanche, I thank you for the call. Thank you for listening to the Brian Killmeat show. And keep listening.
I'll give you a quick answer to what you just talked about. Right now, with artificial intelligence, we have to be just cognizant of the fact that there are classifications, job classifications, right now that will not exist. In the not-too-distant future. Toll takers, a number. You go to a big box store, that used to be a person riding that cleaner.
Now they have it all mapped out with artificial intelligence, a robot cleaning machine that looks just like the other one, but nobody's sitting on it anymore because the robot and it doesn't hit anyone. I've been in there to see this. I'm sure you have. Because you do a lot of shopping and for great folks. And so jobs that used to exist, that's why you have to listen to people like Mike Rowe on the Fox News channel.
Because there are job classifications that are booming right now. And also, too, I mean, retraining is going to be a part of it for people to do jobs that they didn't do in the past, but that they can learn to be able to do now and into the future. And you have to take a good hard look when you talk about. What used to be That will come back versus what used to be that will never come back because it's not cost-effective. And you've got everything from executives to shareholders that Won't bring back things that are cumbersome and expensive and don't drive revenue to the bottom line.
Jared is in the great state of Texas, and oh my word is going crazy there right now, Jared. Welcome to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Hi.
So Regarding these elected officials, these Democrats. that are running to Illinois instead of doing their duty of representing the people that elected them. They did it before, they're doing it again. Honestly. I think they need to be charged with dereliction of duty, screw the five hundred dollar they find, get them out of there and vacate those seats.
Do you think that Governor Abbott later today will say that, that he will move if they do not return by a time, date certain, that he will move to have them forfeit their seats? Do you think that? And by the way, Jared, to go to your point in case folks listening around the country don't know, the Texas House of Legislature has rules that fine their lawmakers $500 each day that they break a quorum. Attorney General Ken Paxson has talked about that in the past. He thinks they should be found in Illinois, wherever they are, and arrested no matter where they go.
I have read the law. It seems as though it's a civil offense, so I don't know if there's something in there that I'm not aware of, though, Jared. What do you hear? Because this is happening actually in your state. We're hearing it all over the country.
Is this what people are talking about right now?
Well, with any subject that's political, you have your right and your left and You know, the left are screaming, Hey, good job, you're doing it, you're of representing us But those of us that actually you know Understand and think this is just them throwing a temper tantrum.
Well, no, no, no. I say it's not that, Jared. It's them knowing if they get the number under a hundred legislators that you can't do business. They're trying to stop these five seats from being redistricted. Where they would advantage Republicans, and those five seats might be the difference between Speaker Hakeem Jeffries and Speaker Mike Johnson.
So, no, it's more than sophistry. They're trying, just like they tried to stop in 2021.
Some economics that were going on then. They're actually trying to stop this move that would redistrict those five congressional seats in your state. Jared, great to be with you. Thanks for listening to the Brian Kilmead Show. We're going to go to Florida.
James is here. James, welcome to Brian Show. Hi there. How's it going? Pertaining to people in the high position of authority and government that need to go to jail, and please hear me out on this, Harry.
What if Hillary Clinton, Brennan Clapper and whoever else like me indicted. Takes a four Immunity. to expose Obama as the ringleader. that they can get all scot-free. But wait a minute, Obama is already protected by a former president status.
So nobody goes to jail, right? And I'll hang out with you.
Okay, all right, James. Thanks. I have a response. Number one, keep in mind, because there is a false impression out there that Obama I mean, they charged President Trump criminally, didn't they? Uh You are immune as President.
It's been determined. for official acts If it turns out and these documents that have been revealed by Cash Patel, our FBI director, and by John Ratcliffe, the director of the CIA, if they turn out to be true, And if there is a provable link directly to Barack Obama. that he directed a new narrative that no evidence supported. To put this stink on President Trump to protect Hillary, that is not an official act. of the President to take an unlawful act.
You're protected if he bombs North Korea, if he bombs Iran. He's covered for an official act In good faith. You're never covered. For a criminal act.
So let me start there. Secondly, usually the first person gets the deal, not the whole shebang.
So I don't see them all getting deals. But somebody might talk. Let me give you an example. James in Florida. I'll give you a perfect example.
Hilary Clinton's Campaign Manager testified under oath. And she has testified to The fact that this was The scheme that I believe a lot of us knew that it was, but there was just you know the difference between it's not what I know, it's what I can prove. Just the proof wasn't there. The proof, according to Ratcliffe, And Cash Patel and others appear to be there. There appears to be there there.
So that's my answer to you, James. Ralph is in a state that I know well. I lived in Rutlandtown for one year. Ralph is calling. from Burlington, Vermont on the Brian Kilmead Show.
How do you know it was from Burlington?
Well, because I have great people I'm working with, Allison and Eric, and they let me know. All I said was Vermont, but there you go. That I am the amazing Kreskin. I am Pocket Kreskin.
Okay, Master Hurley. Back in 1982, Bernie Sanders came on the scene. as the mayor And it Br Vermont has kind of turned Uh A little bit. Progressive over the last few decades. Yeah, you're being kind.
Just a little.
So the idea is uh You got the question to Harris Here's uh About the Democrats. Yeah, who will lead the Democrats? Keep in mind, none of them can answer it. Harris herself is the immediate past Democrat nominee who you know wants to run again if there's any path that opens up for her, but Democrats don't even want her. She couldn't.
Oh, we got a lot of leaders, Ralph. That's what she said. We have a lot of leaders. Well, name one then. They are leaderless right now.
That's their problem. Yep.
So the idea is, I was telling the call screener. That Bernie Sanders and AOC are the leaders of the socialist. Democrats. Yeah, probably who is the who is the leader of the You know, the medium people.
Well, the truth is they don't have one.
Some would want to say Hakeem Jeffries, because obviously, if they win the House, he will become the Democrat leader if they win the House. It's not Chuck Schumer. They want to get rid of him. It's a great question. And, Ralph, I thank you for calling from Vermont.
You brought back a lot of good memories, some of them not so good, though. I remember Bernie Sanders when he was a mayor. I do remember that. Ryan is in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Ryan, we can get you in.
Go right ahead. You're on the Brian Kilmead show. Yeah, I know you're up against the break here. I just wanted to say, I am just incredulous and amazed. That the Democrat Party still, even after this loss, you know, six, seven months ago, they do not have a plan.
And not only do they not have a plan, but they are straight up lazy. Like, there's no effort to come up with a plan. They're running on the mainstream media, and that is falling apart, like chink by chink, you know, with Colbert. But they literally are just laying there waiting for the mainstream media to save them. And it's everybody sees it as a folly and false.
You know, Ryan, it's a great point. And only because of time, I would love to have continued this. You raise a very good point. I don't know that it's just laziness. They don't.
They're void of ideas. They're losing in the arena of ideas. President Trump is cleaning their clock. It really is that they have no good ideas. It's as simple as that.
They're going to figure something out. And, you know, when they don't have issues, you know, the attorney that bangs. If you have the facts, you pound the facts. If you don't have the facts, you pound the table. They'll make up something.
We know what they've done. Steal dossier. And then they get their partners to work with them. We will be right back. Do not go away.
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And great to hear the amazing Kreskin is making it all over the airways. Anyway, this is a Democrat. They're like the Tower of Babel with their rabid. Rhetoric. And they have too many diversified boxes that they're trying to fill, and they're already filled with bad odorous things.
And I feel very sad for anybody that wants to rationalize what they're trying to do. But they do have one common denominator, all the Democrats. They love spending other people's money that is futility in financial awareness. Lance, let's hold it right there just because of time. Very, very good point there.
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Miranda, welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show. Oh, thanks so much, Harry. Good to talk to you. It's good to talk to you. And you are having a good time with that, aren't you?
Yeah, I am. It's fantastic to be able to talk to these amazing people from Donald Trump to Tulsi Gathard to Susie Wiles. At length and ask them questions. I mean, they're incredibly generous with their time and also very candid, which is, I mean, it's just a pleasure. And they have so much.
wisdom to impart and you know it's not just about themselves and the politics but also the secrets of success, not just with themselves, but other people they know. What I love about it, and I've enjoyed watching you develop Pot Force One, is obviously your op-ed pieces, your columns are terrific. You were so, and you don't ever take credit, but I like to bring it up because it is truth. Your book, Laptop from Hell, those however many hundreds of pages you had and all the evidence that you had, that to me was the primer that really brought about getting to the truth on that because you were able to obtain evidence. I mean, it wasn't opinion.
It was you had the hard drive. You had the goods. They lied about you, the legacy media and the Democrats, but you had the goods, and the truth in the glorious final stage became self-evident.
So that was terrific, again, in the written format. But the ability to do the long-form interview that you can really expand, you know, and then the follow-ups are many times better. Better than probably the initial question, even that is a whole different level, isn't it? It's certainly a new skill, I guess, because it's on camera and I guess I'm used to interviewing people, so that's not so difficult. But it is a little more high stakes when it's li well, it's not live, but I mean, it's effectively live.
Live to tape and on camera. Yeah, live to tape. President Trump unleashed. Putin's out of time. Obama's out of luck.
Rosie's out of the country. I love it. I love. I mean, I could do monologues, just those few words of each title. Let me pull one out of the crowd.
I'm going to pick up Obama. And here's what I think you mean by that. But you tell us what your conclusions are. Obama's out of luck because he was always protected. His resume from the beginning was thin.
He was protected. He was made to be bigger and better than he was. He got the job twice. I will give him credit. You run for president and you win twice.
That's nothing to sneeze about. But now with all of these documents between Radcliffe, and Cache Patel, and he he's being named in them as, hey, I don't like this intelligence that we have. I want to have new intelligence. Go change all this. He is now implicated in all of this, isn't he, Miranda?
He certainly is. Donald Trump calls him the ringleader in RussiaGate. And he is now seen, as Tulsi Gabbitt has shown, to have directed that fake intelligence that James Clapper and Jim Comey and John Brennan put together to pretend that Donald Trump had been helped to win the 2016 election by Russia, that Russia had a particular bent. They wanted Donald Trump to win the 2016 election. John Brennan, the former CIA director under Barack Obama, suppressed evidence to show that the opposite was the case, that in fact, Russia believed that Hillary Clinton was a shoe-in, that she was going to win the election.
And they had some very damaging material about Hillary Clinton that would have damaged her campaign, but they withheld it. The Russians withheld it. Because they thought they would drop it just before the inauguration after she'd been elected president to damage her presidency. And I mean, it was very damaging. If this is the material that Tulsi Gabbard says that the CIA knew about from Russian intelligence, it said that, I mean, I don't know if it's true or not, but this is what it said, that Hillary Clinton had serious psycho-emotional problems, that she used to get into a rage and laugh hysterically.
She was on heavy tranquilizers and had all sorts of physical ailments as well. Like type 2 diabetes.
So either way, I mean. John Brennan, the CIA, had that material and left it out of the intelligence community assessment that they delivered on Barack Obama's orders that said what Barack Obama asked them to find and what was leaked to the Washington Post before they'd even started it, which was, oh, yes. Uh that Putin favored Trump. Just not true. And that launched RussiaGate and basically sabotaged Donald Trump's presidency.
By the way, Miranda, as is usual with these rascally Democrats, the exact opposite was true. The documentation you're referring to also says Putin wanted. Hillary to win, but they were holding everything because they thought she was going to win until she won, and then they would have had all this potential alleged blackmail material. How about that? Yes, and material that they could damage Hillary Clinton with.
Absolutely.
So they didn't want Trump at all. I mean, Trump got three years of his presidency, you know, upended by this big lie that just proved to be just absolute nonsense and completely made up from the steel dossier to the whole thing. And then, of course, now you have Brennan and you have some people that are probably a bit concerned and lawyered up because there appears to be a lot of evidence here. But they not only was Trump not a Russian asset, and all these things that they were saying, Russia. didn't want Trump to win at all.
Tr Russia wanted Hillary to win. Russia wanted Hillary to win. Russia thought Hillary would win.
Well, I don't know that Russia wanted Hillary to win. They just thought she would. And so that was just the assumption. They did not want. Trump to win, it wasn't that they favoured Trump.
And that was the exact opposite of what this dodgy intelligence assessment was. And on top of that, you had evidence that Tulsi Gabbard has released, which shows that the intelligence assessments right up until this particular bogus one all said the opposite. They said no, that Russia did not intervene in the twenty sixteen election to help Trump. Fox News contributor, New York Post columnist, and the host. Of Pod Force One, the great Miranda Devine visiting on the Brian Kilmead show.
I have a sneaky suspicion that. The Democrats are going to big time ownership. Both Zoron Mamdani, who I believe will be the next mayor of New York City.
Now, I don't say that with any pleasure because it's a disaster, but with all these other people running, he has the support he has. I just don't see him losing. And then in Minneapolis, this guy might even be worse, but just doesn't get the publicity that Mamdani gets. Omar Fateh in Minneapolis. The Democrats, just in time for the 2026 midterm elections, may own the new face of their party, unapologetic communists.
Not even, we used to say, oh, they're lefties. Oh, they're hard left. Oh, they're socialist Democrats.
Now they're just absolute communists, these people.
So Mandami and Fateh, if they win, and I think there's a very good chance that both win, one, I think, for sure is going to win, probably both for sure, that could very well doom. The House of Representatives that the Democrats think they have a good chance to pick up your thoughts.
Well, look, I hope you're wrong about Mamdani and Fatah in Minnesota and I hope you're right that if, God forbid, Mamdani is mayor of New York, that that does set back the Democrats' hopes in the midterms. It ought to. Unfortunately, I feel that voters seem to separate out sort of local issues from federal issues.
So I'm not sure that the rest of the country is going to care too much about what happens in New York. I get the feeling from people that they say you made your bed lie in it. But I tell you, there are a lot of New Yorkers who don't vote for these crazy people. And how's he leading then?
Well, because of apathy. New Yorkers don't vote. I can't remember the exact numbers, but I think it was less than 20%. That Bill de Blasio got of the electorate when he Yeah, w when he was mayor twice.
So I don't know what happens to people, why they feel that they shouldn't vote. But maybe Mamdani will galvanize them. I'm not sure. I mean, the other problem is because the field is so split in New York, you've got Andrew Cuomo, the loathed former governor who is mistrusted and just reviled by many people. And then you have Eric Adams, the current mayor, who I mean, I don't think he's such a bad guy, but he's been pretty ineffectual, and he's trying to be all things to all people.
And he's last right now. He's behind Curtis Liwa. You have right now Mamdani, you have Cuomo, you have Curtis Liwa, and the incumbent mayor is currently dead last. We rarely have split decisions. We're going to have one today because in days gone by, it's true.
Local didn't pay attention to the national. National didn't get affected by the local. It was just looked upon separately. I think that's totally changed. I think it all infects each other, both up to down, down to up.
If you think about it, how I'm going to back my case up, Miranda, not asking you to change your opinion, but they're all being asked: if it doesn't matter, if the local level doesn't matter, then why is every from Uh The Hakeem Jeffries to Chuck Schumer. Pick your Democrat. Everyone is being asked, Do you endorse Mandani? Do you endorse? Do you endorse?
Do you endorse? And they're, oh, they have no answer. I don't know him. I have to meet with them. I have to get to know him first.
They won't even acknowledge. that they support the Democrat nominee for mayor of New York City. If he wins, they're going to be asked for the entire midterm election to endorse him. Or why aren't you endorsing him? I think.
It matters big time.
Well, I'm not sure because the Staten Island Democrats have just announced that they're supporting Mamdani, and Staten Island is the most conservative borough in New York. Excellent.
So yeah, yeah. You've given us good news, Miranda. Good. Yeah, I think the rest of them are going to line up and support Mamdani. And there proves my point.
They're going to own hi they're going to own it. This is who they're supporting. This guy that has said, and it's all documented, about the police being the violence, not criminals. I mean, it this is going to be beautiful. But again, I think Mamdani is a chameleon and he is going to he's already I mean, you saw him at the funeral for the cops slain in that midtown shooting.
And he just you know it's Slimily, smoothly morphs into this pro-police person. Yeah, yeah, he's got like Gavin Newsom in him. But here's what I think about that.
Well, except for snake-like please. There you go. Yeah, and he didn't go to the French laundry.
So. You have all the police folks all saying, do not believe a word that Mamdani says. They're not going to listen to him for a few weeks in a campaign, say he's had this religious conversion. He loves the police now. They're going to make him own every horrific, harsh thing that he has said.
Yes, well, that is true, I guess. But do people care? Do people listen? I mean, again, I just think New Yorkers are checked out. And then Democrats will be able to insulate themselves because they'll say, oh, he's just a lovely young man and you're just being racist.
Yeah, we're in the final minute, but I just think, and I don't want to beat this to death, but I just think the Democrats nationwide own this thing. It's not just, even if it's not as big an effect in New York as I think it's going to be, but I think it is going to be, it's going to affect them all over where people will run. If you vote against, if you vote for my opponent, you are voting for Mamdani, you're voting for Fateh. I think they get to hang these guys around them. 30 seconds, closing comment.
No, I totally agree with you. I think that if either of these two guys are elected, then it is an albatross around the neck nationally for the Democrats. And also, I think Donald Trump has a lot of juicy tricks up his sleeve to lure everybody, including independents and maybe Democrats, before the midterms.
So let's see.
So much to talk about. Until next time, Miranda, have a great day. Yeah, thanks so much, Harry. You're welcome. I should have got into more issues.
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How does this young guy come in, doesn't have the money to spend that Cuomo has, doesn't have the position that Adams has, doesn't have the backing of the billionaires. How does that work? He comes in and he talks about how to make New York City affordable for families. And he says, We got to talk about housing, we got to talk about the price of groceries, and we got to talk about child care. Because without those young families, families who are trying to make it, people can't make it in New York City unless they're rich.
And he wants to make this city work for working people. Nope. Thank you, Elizabeth Warren, for proving the point. He wants to take other people's money that earned it and then redistribute it. Just remember, that's why I said this is national, not just New York, not just Minneapolis.
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Just kidding, it's only a three-hour show. Listen live at Noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. This intelligence that was so shocking that John Brennan brought together the National Security Council, President Obama, Vice President Biden, Clapper, Comey, Susan Rice, and briefed them on this intelligence about a Hillary Clinton plan to frame Donald Trump, and that the CIA made the required referral of that to the FBI to investigate that as a counterintelligence matter.
And as John Durham found, the FBI buried it. They didn't open a file, they didn't assign an analyst, they didn't investigate it all. They just spent the next few years, really, amplifying the lie of Hillary Clinton's steel dossier and burying the truth of her plan to frame Donald Trump. And there it is. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison and Eric.
I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Brian. And thank you to the team for the opportunity to spend this time because this is a privilege. This is a right of personal privilege to be able to present Greg Jarrett. The man literally wrote the book, Russia Hoax. You talk about a person's body of work holding up well.
Greg Jarrett is a number one New York Times best-selling author. I'll name two of his books: The Russia Hoax. I mean, oh my God, it's like open the pages. And it looks like he wrote the book after the truth came out because he knew the truth. And also, the bestseller, Witch Hunt.
Greg Jarrett is the legal analyst for Fox News Channel. Greg, welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show. Terry, good to be with you. Thanks for having me on. Good to be with you.
Now, I said it. You wrote the book on the Russia hoax, Russia Collusion, Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Clinton, and more. And Obama, of course, now he looks like the ringleader, according to the notes and the documents. And let me just preface it by saying that. Your book, I mentioned how I believe your book holds up like you had the answer key when you wrote the book.
Well You know why? Identified not only, you know, the conniving scheming story, but I identified the laws that were broken and the people who broke those laws. And that's exactly what the FBI and the Department of Justice are now looking at. I'd like to think that I gave them a road map six and seven years ago With those two books. But Obama.
was deeply embedded in the hoax. He was pressuring Comey to clear Hillary of her email crimes. That's in the latest. declassified documents. He joined this scheme to push the phony collusion narrative that Hillary Clinton herself approved and instigated.
And then of course, all of them engineered the fabricated case against Trump, what is So troubling is that Obama and Biden. He was in on the meetings. They could have stopped it. They could have told the truth to the American people and to Congress. But they didn't want to do that.
So it's really a stunning window into how Obama's CIA and FBI, run by corrupt actors like Comey, Brennan and Clapper, plotted to sabotage Trump along with Democrat Party officials a bogus dossier, two cybersecurity firms doing all their dirty work. And then later, Obama directed his intel pals to manipulate an alter intelligence to justify what they'd done, using the fake dossier to supercharge the hoax. They abused their power, they targeted a political enemy, Trump, and they weaponized the law to destroy him. You are listening to Fox News legal analyst Greg Jarrett on the Brian Kilme show.
So what happens? We find out the truth and let's have a happy life? Or does somebody get prosecuted, Greg?
Well, I think prosecution is a real possibility here now with the FBI DOJ criminal investigation. And I think they're looking at a broad Criminal conspiracy, which would include conspiracy to defraud the government, deprivation of rights under color of law. false statements, perjury, but most importantly, Obstruction of justice in the elaborate cover-up that has been going on. years and and that's I think it's important because it extends the statute limitations in any conspiracy case. against the malign actors involved.
Because the clock starts ticking. When deliberately concealed evidence is discovered, which is hairy quite recently.
So, for example, Cash Patel just discovered incriminating documents in burn bags hidden at the FBI. They've also found other records in hard drives that were. Squirreled away under lock and key by Comey in a place that nobody knew about. And so, understand that attempting to conceal or destroy evidence relevant. To investigations, and there have been many, is obstruction of justice.
And the last overt act in a conspiracy. starts the clock running anew. Let me bring up former President Obama because so many people just take without any question or any intellectual curiosity that any act, official act by a President cannot be prosecuted. Is it an official act of a president if Obama, according allegedly according to these documents that have now been declassified, didn't like our intelligence? He wanted it to be that Trump was colluding with Russia.
If you go and you order a new conclusion to frame the Republican nominee, in the benefit of the Democrat nominee, his Current Secretary of State at the time. That doesn't seem like an official act to me, Greg. Yeah. And I think you make an excellent point, Harry, because it looks like a political act Not an official act by a President, although he would obviously embrace the latter. And it was very clever and devious how they did it.
First of all, they scuttled the original intelligence, which found that Russia did not hack. The 2016 election to help Trump, then they covertly plotted. To replace it with a new intelligence assessment that said just the opposite. And then, of course, they exploited the dedicated. The debunked dossier to justify the new assessment.
While then using the same document to legitimize. The dossier's circular verification is totally dishonest. And then, of course, they leaked it all to the media who convicted Trump in the court of public opinion without a shred of evidence.
Now, Clinton's campaign manager testifying under oath, allegedly, it is reported by sources that The campaign manager. has confirmed this whole conspiracy. Yeah, I I would like to see more evidence of that and confirmation of that. But if true, that would obviously Be vital information and evidence. Greg, how much danger are Brennan, Comey, Clapper and Clinton?
I suspect, meaning Hillary, not Bill. I suspect Obama being a former president and his name is not Trump, that nothing's going to happen to him, but it should, based on these documents. But Brennan, Comey, Clapper and Hillary Clinton, I suspect they may be in some serious danger here. I think particularly Comey, Brennan, and Clapper, the three stooges of Obama's national security team, are in legal jeopardy. Clapper said he's already lawyered up.
I'm sure the other two have as well. In my book, Witch Hunt, I identified The testimony under oath that they gave to Congress on several different occasions in which it appeared to me that they lied outright about the intelligence community assessment. For example, Brennan insisted, no, I didn't push the dossier as a part of the body of the assessment. And they sanitized what they gave Congress, omitting. a key paragraph in which in fact They were using the dossier.
That has now come out.
So I mean, that looks like a brazen deception, a lie that would subject him to either perjury or false statements. The same can be said of Clapper, although at one point in time he tried to recant. With Comey, he's a slippery character. In his main testimony before Congress, he said, I don't know, I don't recall more than two hundred times. Yeah, what a guy.
What a guy. Yeah. Unbelievable. You know me. You know we're not getting out of this without talking about Jack Smith.
Jack Smith appears to be under criminal investigation. How much potential danger is he in?
Well, the office Special counsel, which is independent, has opened a probe. I'm not sure it's a criminal probe, but it is a watchdog. And what they're essentially looking at is Did he bring the cases against Trump for purely political reasons? And I think the evidence is compelling that he did. Not just the timing of it.
But others are Around him, who were involved, and you know, this was a way to. to damage Trump before the 2020 24 election trying to rush. two different very specious cases Against Trump. And, you know, it was done at the behest of Joe Biden. You know, he leaked to the New York Times That he wanted Trump prosecuted, and Ligetty split Merrick Garland and appointed Jack Smith, who did just that.
So I think you see there another overarching A conspiracy to weaponize the law for purely political purposes. Fox News legal analyst Greg Jarrett visiting on the Brian Kilmead show. I also want to get your take on James Emmanuel Jeb Bosberg, the chief judge. Of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. And he is, there doesn't appear to be any ambiguity here.
The Department of Justice has filed. A misconduct complaint against Judge Boesberg, and I guess it involves a Judicial Code of Conduct and Federal Hatch Act, things like that. Greg, what do you take from this?
Well, I mean, he's a hyperpartisan. There's no question about that. And he used a conference that included the Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court, which they're supposed to talk about um you know budgets and you know rather uh plain insignificant matters.
And he tried to, it seems to me, unduly influence the Chief Justice in the United States Supreme Court on Trump related cases. Which is an egregious violation of the code of judicial conduct. And so. You know, that's being looked at now. You know, it's amazing that Boseberg.
Was told by the U.S. Supreme Court, you have no jurisdiction over this immigration case. And yet, Bosberg deliberately ignored the High Court and proceeded to act. Yeah. You know, it just underscores his partisanship.
I couldn't agree more on that. Greg Jarrett on the Brian Kilmead show: is it more likely or less likely that someone, just out of these three things we brought up, Jack Smith and this investigation at that level, the investigation of Russia collusion, Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Clinton, I'll throw Obama in there et al., and then Judge Bosberg. Is it more or less likely that At least one person will be prosecuted. I would say it's more likely. And the easier cases are the false statements and the perjury cases for knowingly and intentionally giving You know, false statements, lies in testimony where the evidence overwhelmingly belies.
Uh what they said. And but I wouldn't get expectations up really high right now for an immediate Prosecution, the evidence is still filtering out. As I said on Maria Bartaromo's show, you know, inventing the lie is easy, and peddling the lie. To the public through the Trump-hating media is even easier. But uncovering the truth that is so well hidden for years, that's hard.
And I think we're going to see a lot more evidence coming out in the next few weeks as well as whistleblowers who are coming out of the woodwork. You know, I heard you mention the burn bags, and they've been on my mind because if you put documents in burn bags, isn't that the green light that they should be gone, right? They shouldn't still be available to be found, correct? That's right. And it's a bit of a mystery why they weren't actually burned.
My theory is whoever was assigned to dispose of them, to incinerate them. didn't want to be a party to a crime. I'm so I'm looking right now. Deep six them in a room without destroying them because realizing that. Incriminating evidence relative to an ongoing investigation in Congress, and it was at the time, still is.
Is obstruction of justice. Even the anticipation. of an investigation. If you destroy documents, you're committing obstruction. And so that may be the logical explanation for why they weren't actually burned.
But as I said before, an attempt to destroy documents is criminal obstruction of justice. Greg, final minute. Very much listening intently when CIA Director John Ratcliffe said, Look. This stuff is not in a file cabinet that is labeled Russia collusion. We have to look all over the place.
And Patel has been very successful, as you mentioned, finding documents. John Ratcliffe has been very successful. But this is not easy, is it? Final 30 seconds. No, it's.
It isn't easy. And for example, in addition to the records and hard drives and burn bags that were hidden away under lock and key, they've also found Ex Yeah. you know, a secure Crumpart compartmentalize Facility that nobody even knew about. There's no record of it existing. Ten seconds.
And, you know, so I mean, it's just. you know describe You know, the malevolence of the actors involved in the Russia hoax. Greg, great to visit with you. Thanks so much. My pleasure.
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That the Fox News channel actually recently covered this. The top mentions. about the Democratic Party. in this poll. Fourteen per cent.
ineffective Broken. nine percent. Generally negative. Five percent. Dishonest, corrupt or out of touch.
Five percent. Now that was a a sampling of adults. Just under about fifteen hundred, just under fifteen hundred adults. And it was about A month ago. They have no issues on their side right now, and they have an incredibly.
serious branding issue. The news continues. It's been an honor to be here with Allison and Eric. I always appreciate the opportunity. It's the Brian Killmeat Show.