Now is the time for a decision on Iran

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, so glad you're there. I'm glad I'm here, and we have a lot going on. President of the United States already on Capitol Hill.

He is addressing the big, beautiful bill. He's going to get personally involved. We knew that was happening. On our great guest list, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West will bring us inside Texas. And what they're pushing for with that very same bill, as well as David Natius standing by, columnist for the Washington Post.

We also are seeing that Marco Rubio is heading to Capitol Hill for the first time since he got confirmed, and he's got the other job as National Security Advisor. We also think RFK is going to be back on Capitol Hill testifying. It's going to be a busy week as we get closer and closer to the Memorial Day deadline.

So before we get to David, let's get to the big three. Number 3. I think the president is going to encourage everyone this morning to get in line and get the votes done. We need to deliver this for the American people. The American First Agenda is all wrapped up into one big bill, and we're really excited to deliver it this morning.

Let's see. Trump storms to lock up with two days left to lock up this beautiful bill. Memorial Day for the House, and I think the 4th of July for the Senate, and then he'll get his major piece of legislation passed. And its success will really. Uh make or break the midterms.

Number two. You said last week that you thought nothing was going to happen, no advances would be made until you and Putin got together. Do you still feel that way? I think something's going to happen. Big ego's involved, I tell you.

Big ego's involved. But I think something's going to happen.

Well, whatever happens, you can't quit, Mr. President. Putin and Trump talk a little accomplished. Big worry. We throw in the towel.

That's what the Vice President said on Monday. I say we slap sanctions and weapons instead. Number one. We had multiple cabinet members that said if there had been a crisis, especially in 2024, late in the middle of the night, they did not have confidence that Joe Biden would necessarily be up to that task. And as a result, you sort of have the institutional aspects of the presidency that would have probably tried to take hold.

Unbelievable, right? Alex Thompson, co-author of the big book on Biden's invisible presence as President of the United States. The Biden decline. A flood of intel shows he was an empty vessel. But aides and secretaries, still too gutless to put their names on their alarming revelations.

Medical experts claim also he could not have just found out that he has advanced cancer. Trust again is busted. Dave Ignatius joins us now. Dave, welcome back. Hey, thanks, Brian.

Hey, David, first off, are you how are you at what level are you surprised by how checked out Joe Biden was for the last four years?

Well, you know, I wrote a column that got him really angry back in August to September twenty twenty three saying he shouldn't run. Yeah, the White House uh you know cut me off was was was really uh upset that I was saying what everybody I think could see on their T V screens which which is that Running for another four-year term just wasn't appropriate.

So, um, You know, I've been expressing this for a while. It's not a recent view. Um, I I must say, you know, when anybody gets a serious cancer the way he has, and After a lifetime of trying to serve his country, I'm not in a mood to criticize him, but you know, we all s saw what we saw and uh and and I Mm-hmm. Yeah, I love. is just a real tragedy that Joe Biden didn't didn't see the time to step back and come.

The question was, was he ever there? I mean, you have people, cabinet secretaries, saying that he could not take a cabinet meeting without getting the questions ahead of time, and the answers were written on cards. This is by his cabinet secretaries. This is early on in his administration. I mean, if there isn't a reason to pick a 25th Amendment, I don't know what is.

You know, I've heard different versions, Brian. I have to be honest, the people I've talked to a range of people, you know, intelligence military people who were in the situation room with him. describes somebody who, however old and feeble he looked, still had a good active intelligence, asked the right questions. We'll never know 'cause we weren't in that room. You know, I think um There is a time when the people around you need to say, you know, David.

Brian Joe, it's time to pack it in. And that didn't happen here, and it's really tragedy.

So let's talk about foreign policy and where we're at right now. What do you think came out of the President's call? What is your read on the President's two point five hour calls? I just was in Ukraine ten days ago. I admire the people fighting there.

I should say that at the outset. What's happened is that Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader, has refused to make any concessions. President Biden asked him very specifically. I want a ceasefire before negotiations begin. And Prudence stiffed him.

He said, nope. Not going to do it.

So, President Trump's response, unfortunately, is. to say, okay. You know, when you and you and the Ukrainians talk, and you try to figure out if you can get to a ceasefire, in other words, he basically accepted Putin's demand without pushback. And I'm sorry to see that, to be honest. I just hope that's not the final push because I know they're talking sanctions.

Now, what's working through the Senate that will just trump that, pun intended? They have over 70 votes in the Senate to sanction their central bank, correct? And sanction third party sanctions on anyone who buys their energy.

So Lindsay Graham friend of the President Trump.

Sometimes we piece people speak of him as a Trump whisperer 'cause he he can get the To President Trump, has lined up these 70 co-sponsors for a bill that will. Say to Putin: You play ball here, you get in negotiations for real, or you're going to get. a significant penalty from the United States in terms of the sanctions. A range of things. And I think that's great.

I think that's the way, you know, superpower, which the United States is. needs to negotiate. If people ignore if Putin ignores the request of the President of the United States, he needs to pay a price, simple as that.

So what did you see on the ground in Ukraine? What I saw was a much heavier bombardment. They're firing ballistic missiles at Key, which they don't often do, waves and waves of drones. Um but Compared to the last time I was there, Brian, about six months ago. I saw much uh s Stiffer determination of people.

It's like the worst has happened, and they're still there. They're still fighting. The Europeans have stepped up for them in a significant way and said, We have your back, even if the United States. pulls out, and so they feel a little more confidence, I think.

So, I mean, the demands that Russia has is just flat out ridiculous. I mean, they're incomprehensible that Ukraine won't have an army, that they basically have to give up land they haven't even gotten yet in the Donbas area. They have to have immediate elections. I mean, Vladimir Putin's demands, it makes you wonder: do they understand that they're losing $5,000 a week? Do they understand that inflation is at 10% there, interest rates at 20%?

They understand that President Trump is saying economically, I'll give you a lifeline. Just stop the fighting. What do they want out of this? Like, why do the Russians think it's their advantage to fight this?

Well, in a food and pastures Presidency, his prestige to this. He's obsessed with Ukraine. He doesn't believe that Ukraine is a real country. And now, three years later, the Russians have suffered almost 800,000 dead and wounded. Imagine that.

It's more people than they've lost in all the wars since 1945 combined. 800,000 people. Ukraine is a real country. We're fighting back every day. Russia in three years hasn't, as you said, hasn't taken Donetsk.

Providence. Let alone Ukraine.

So Putin got more than he bargained for. And I hate to say this, but I think he's counting on Donald Trump to bail him out from a catastrophic mistake. He's been waiting for Trump, hoping Trump will rescue him. And I just hope, I think I admire President Trump for saying this war needs to end. He's absolutely right.

It's a terrible, terrible tragedy. But it needs to end on terms. It's just present. Blow right back. you know, stable terms that that that that provide a a a Yeah just settlement for the all sides can live with.

So I'm just hoping that the President and the White House can find a way to Do what they promise, which is which is negotiate a real end to this war that lasts. But if if they just give in to Putin, We're going to have more fighting and more death. I don't think so. I think, if anything, he's just going to say walk away, but he's got to do it with offering sanctions. Like, if you walk away, you're not going to get the same deal.

We are going to sanction your central bank. You know, we are going to continue to give weapons to Ukraine, especially defense weapons. They want to pay for them. They ask for patriots, they say we will pay for them. Uh, so give it to them.

They're defensive weapons. I don't understand the problem, uh, but let's talk about what they are doing, they're making a Our Western allies step up.

So Trump won. They just want to say he was a Neanderthal. He doesn't understand anything and he's going to be gone anyway.

Well, he did his four years. He won some people over, including. The head of NATO, the general secretary, said we finally have people spending close to 2%. And now he's saying let's up it to 5%. And the new German leader said, we've got to learn to act alone.

Say it, David, it's much different than the foreign policy we're used to for 50 years. But I kind of like the fact that the Western countries got to start putting money into their own defense. We'd love to not spend a trillion dollars a year. We don't have that luxury. Why should they?

So I'm I I think that's a real benefit. Europe has discovered um That it's it can't be a free rider around the United States anymore. And Yeah, but parts of as they can't rely on the United States anymore. In the same way that they did.

So they're going to do it themselves. They're going to step up as they should.

So as you say, Germany is spending 5% of its GDP for defense unheard of. Um the the new German Chancellor, Friedrich Mercht, just said that Germany is going to have the strongest army in continental Europe. That's amazing. I mean, Germany has been running the other way from any kind of military power since 1945. We know why.

But it is time now for them to take a a stronger role. You've got Poland, which is a strong country militarily. The new members of NATO, Sweden and Finland, those are really strong, advanced countries. They're willing to put the money into defense.

So You know, as the US steps back, the Europeans, thank goodness, are stepping forward. I just don't want Ukraine to get crushed. In the middle of that transition, I think that would be a tragedy. I don't know if people listen to you. I hope they hear your arguments, Brian, because I make this argument.

I'm not sure anybody's listening to me, but I hope you continue to make it. David Nashures, I guess everyone listens to you.

So, David, I want to also take a look at what's happening with the Iranian deal.

So, it seems that they are on the same page now. The administration's saying zero enrichment, not going to happen. But to me, you've got to get rid of the infrastructure too. And they were talking about a consortium with the UAE in Saudi Arabia. I don't know if that's been confirmed with the foreign minister last week.

Where do you think, and what do your contacts say they're at with this Iranian talks? Are they streaming us out?

So I think to some extent we're being played. I think the best we're likely to end up with is a version of the deal that Trump walked away from it in 2018. But I think that has its benefits. I always thought it was worth keeping, as did the our Chiefs of staff and our intelligence leadership because it it did monitor, verify Iranian compliance with with the CAPS. If there's no enrichment, if the Iranians aren't able to move quickly to weapons grade uranium, then you have more lead time, more ability to See a real breakout when it's coming.

Israel will be more secure. We will too.

So I think that's a deal that we that we could live with. Um The danger is that the whole Gulf now is purged on it's on the edge of becoming nuclear.

So whatever Iran gets, Saudi Arabia is going to demand, the UA is going to demand.

So you're going to have a much more unstable region potentially. That's the reason to make sure that we don't give in too much to Iranian demands because they'll be matched. You know, you'll have nuclear power surrounding the Gulf, and that's the real Tinderbox.

So we don't want that. I hope C. Wickoff negotiates this Uh well, it's very technical stuff. hope we get some good experts to go in with them so they didn't get taken for a ride by the Iranians.

So David, a couple of things. Anytime we have less war in the Middle East, I'm for it.

Well, I've never seen the goal. I mean, it's so obvious what the problem is now. I mean, if people say, well, Israel's a problem or the Palestinians a problem, Iran is the problem. Financing Hamas, financing Hezbollah, Islamic jihad, causing the unrest, propping up Assad.

So the Russians distracting Ukraine allowed Assad to be vulnerable. They've now lost a friendly outlet there. Hopefully, they'll lose their base.

Now, the Iranians no longer have any access. They're hated by this new Syrian government as long as it lasts. The Gulf states are pretty much understanding that Iran is the problem. They are financing Hamas and Hezbollah. They're the ones October 7th.

Without Iran, that doesn't happen.

So, with their missile defense down, with Hezbollah and Hamas severely diminished. This is the opportunity to take out that program. Robert Gates says this is the one problem with doing it, Cut 32. The problem that I've had with a strike on the Iranian nuclear program is that it buys you a year or two. You're not going to be able to destroy short of as long as you're using conventional weapons.

You cannot get at the very deeply buried parts of the Iranian nuclear program. He said that's the challenge, a year or two. What do you think?

So Uh you gaining a year or two at the risk of uh a lot of just an instability, a chain of action and reaction you can't predict.

So uh I I The Israelis Argued strongly in February.

Now's the time to go.

Now's the time for a military strike. Iran has never been weaker. Let's do it. And uh President Trump uh I I think felt jammed. He he they didn't want to start a a w a a war with Iran.

It was Conclusion he couldn't predict, so he decided not to. He ended up siding with Bob Gates in that same clip. It's not, we're not getting enough for the risks we're taking.

So that led to some distance between him and Prime Minister Netanyahu. But your basic question: if not now, when, if this is the time to get the limits on Iran's program militarily or diplomatically, it won't come again. Make sure you use this opportunity. That's actually absolutely right. And I hope Witkoff understands.

This is the time you've got to get the absolute binding deal. Or if you don't, you're going to have to to think about other military options. I think you're right. And I think also they're so unpopular with the Iranian people that there are not many tears shed if that government's decapitated. But I know it's easier said than done.

David, thanks so much. Look forward to this very interesting times. And I think you're kind of open to someone shaking up foreign policy.

So, yeah. And I've been reading what you've been writing about it.

So let's see what happens, as Trump likes to say. Appreciate it, David. Thank you. Thank you, Brian. Thank you very much.

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I'm not sure if you've heard of it. It's on Biden's decline. It's called Original Sin. I'm sure you've heard on May 20th, that's Tuesday. You will not believe what we found out.

Don't news people. have to tell you what they know. When they find it out? Isn't that the difference between news And a secret? You won't believe what we found out.

No, that's why I'm watching. I thought Jon Stewart had a brilliant monologue last night. He actually went easy on Jake Tapper, but just saying that how could you. Hold this back, pretend it's new, not understand. And my analogy is this.

Can you imagine if Sean Hannerty in 2020, after all the time that he spent with Donald Trump wrote a book about how bad Donald Trump is, how detached he was, how he didn't know what he was doing in the White House. Tapper tried to say on CBS this morning saying that, well, we didn't get all this information until after the fact.

So we didn't have it in the moment. Did he try? If you try to find out that guy that can barely walk, can barely say a word, doesn't have press conference, what's really going on behind the scenes? If you can get people in, by the way, you got them anonymous. They're anonymous still.

You couldn't have got those anonymous things. New York Post today said you should have had 25th Amendment. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmeade. Not a question of hold-ups.

We have a tremendously unified party. I don't think we've ever had a party like this. There's some people that want a couple of things that maybe I don't like or that. They're not going to get it. But I think we're going to have tremendous Not in luck.

We have tremendous talent. This man has done an incredible job as Speaker. You know, we had a majority of one. We were one heart attack away from losing the house.

Okay, now we have seven. That's a big because we won some elections, as you probably noticed, and we're going to win a lot of elections. We have an economy that's roaring.

So the President of the United States talking optimistically, but he's going to meet with the House members today that passed through the Budget Committee and now want the Rules Committee to give them to lay it all out so they can have a general floor vote. But right now, the Big Beautiful Bill, because it's so much in it, it does not that surprising. Uh is not ready to pass. Why?

Well, the Texas delegation led by Chip Roy says I need more Medicaid reform, and I'm not for the salt stuff to be able to write off state and local taxes.

Now the New York of the New York Republican say, If you screw with salt, I'm not going to win. You're going to lose the house. And I need that. I need to have my people paying such high state taxes to be able to get a deduction for those who make under $400,000. I think there's a lot of play there.

It's things to be made. But overall, I think most people agree it's going to add $2.5 trillion to the debt, which is not good. But maybe that could be handled through growth, and I never really believed the CBL that has way too many Democrats on it, although they always open up with nonpartisan. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West joins us now, Dallas County Republican Party Chairman, American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, former Congressman from Florida. Congressman, great to see you.

Thanks for joining us. I know this is going to be a, before we start talking about issues, this is a big day for you. Yeah, it's a big day, Brian. You know, you and I have been friends for a long time, and five years ago, I had a very catastrophic motorcycle accident, Memorial Day weekend, and you interviewed me on Fox.

Well, last November, I decided to get back on the motorcycle, and I was invited to go and speak at Rolling Thunder up in Washington, D.C.

So as soon as I hang up speaking with you, I'm going to jump on motorcycle and start heading up to D.C. for that veterans motorcycle ride, which will occur this Sunday.

So it's great to talk to you right as I get ready to head up to D.C. for that event. And you're actually taking your bike thousands of miles, right? How much is it? Yeah.

It's a little over one thousand miles. We're looking I'm riding with my riding buddy, Gene Clark, who's also an Army veteran. Looking to make it to Jackson, Tennessee today. The next day, we are hoping to make it to Bristol, Virginia, or maybe Roanoke, Virginia. And then Thursday, we'll pull into DC.

Wow, that is a great tribute. What guts it for you to get back on the bike after that accident, which was brutal? You last rode the Rolling Thunder in 2014, but of course, Memorial Day weekend, it's worth taking some risks to remember those who served.

So, Colonel, in Washington right now, they're having a different battle, a battle for the budget. How do you see this thing playing out? To have a party disagree on something like this is not surprising. But what about the content of what you've read?

Well, I tell you, you can't miss the forest for looking at the trees, and I think that's the most important thing. You have to think about the strategic, the long-term victory instead of worrying about little tactical victories. And that's what my counsel, my advice would be to someone like a Chip Roy or whatever. We got to make sure that what happened to President Trump in 2018 does not happen again, where he lost in the midterms, and it stymied his agenda going forward for those last two years. And what did we hear about impeachment, impeachment, impeachment?

And the other thing that you mentioned was this whole analysis by the CBO. Always remember that the CBO does what is called a static analysis. They don't do a dynamic analysis. They just put in the numbers and they just kick what it's out. They don't take into account things like economic growth or any of those non-tangibles that a computer cannot understand.

So I think that you will see an incredible boom for our economy. But we got to get this bill out of the House. We got to get it over to the Senate. And thank God it's under reconciliation.

So, you only need to have a majority vote. What do you say to the New Yorkers? Because they say they pay more revenue to the federal government. That's why they need the tax break.

Well, I would also say when Yes, when I'm sitting down here in Texas, we are seeing people with California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois license plates coming here because they understand the onerous taxation that they're facing there.

So I think eventually, that will come to roost for the people in those blue states that are overtaxing their individuals. But again, the most important thing is, hey guys, we got to get this as a big W. The American people need this because if you don't pass it, then what's the result? You get the largest tax increase. And I think that from, again, a strategic perspective, that's the mantle that you want to hang around the neck of the Democrats to say that these guys are against this because they want to see your taxes increase.

And we can deal with some of the smaller pieces of this later on. But let's get us on the right track to fiscal financial stability and economic security. Does it bother you the $2.5 trillion we're supposed to add to our debt? Of course. I mean, the whole it always bothers me.

And at some point in time, well, hopefully, we can codify by way of rescissions all of these Doge cuts that we have seen so we can make sure that, that does not go forward. If we don't do that, then why do we even have that Department of Government efficiency?

So I think it is very important that we start looking at Article I, Section A of the Constitution lays down the eighteen enumerated powers to the federal government, the legislative branch there. And we've got to get constitutional governance restored in this country instead of us looking at every single thing. We create a new agency, we create this, we give this, we give that. Government can't be Santa Claus anymore because for the long term, again, strategically, it's going to bring about the financial ruin of this country. I know, can't be Santa Claus anymore, but they're used to when Santa Claus stops coming in in the form of Medicaid, that's when people say you lose elections.

I think people have to probably show courage on that. They say if you pass some of this, there's so much stimulus in it. There's cuts across the board. It's a flat out. People that just want to say this is a tax cut for billionaires.

I haven't read the bill or just deliberately mischaracterizing it. It's going to say, according to the short-term effects of this bill, they say 4.2 million more full-time equivalent jobs over the next 10 years, 5,900 to 11,100 higher wages per worker. It'll go from $7,600 to $12,600 higher take-home pay for a typical family with two children. And $100 billion of investment, 1 million jobs, and hundreds of thousands of new homes to support the workforce gross in distressed, especially rural communities. It even goes after the American Indian communities and looks to serve them.

They are not letting out the tribes.

So it's going to be really interesting because this is going to be the ultimate test: if you give people back their money, if you get red tape out of their way, if you get energy low. Will the American drive still be there to grow us out of this debt problem? Yeah. Well, I think that's the important thing we have to look at: is that do we want to continue to have A dependency society, or do we want an economically independent society? And that's the crossroads that we're at here in America.

And when you hear people talk about we need to expand Medicaid and we need to make sure that we grow Medicaid, well, basically, what you're saying is you want to grow more people to be in poverty because that was the whole purpose of Medicaid was to look at those people at a certain poverty level to provide them the right type of insurance, medical coverage. But now when you look at illegals being able to use Medicaid, when you look at, again, the flawed waste and abuse, we've got to eradicate that.

So this is not about cutting Medicaid, it's about making sure that we get it back to its original purpose and intent. And furthermore, we want to grow people out of having to trust and depend upon Medicaid. And look, let's go back to looking at health savings accounts and things of that nature, which, of course, Obama and the Patient Protect and Affordable Care Act, they went after. You know, these are tax-protected monies that you can use for your health. for your health care.

So it's all of these free market solutions that we need to look at. And I think that right now, it this is about messaging. This is about getting out there. I think Catherine and Levitt did an incredible job yesterday from the the White the correspondence Platform and explaining what this bill is about. She's probably one of the best messengers that the Republican Party has right now.

She's really strong because she understands the policy. And when you're a press secretary and you understand and you're in the meetings and you understand the policy, you could take any question. The problem with KJP and some others in the past is they were left on the outside.

So when people ask them questions, they obviously were just filling time with wasted words. And the thing where I Gensaki worked is that Gensaki probably knew more about policy than Biden.

So she was able to screen him. and talk around issues. And now we find yeah, go ahead. Yeah, but she never really got to uh an answer or anything. She was very good at manipulating language uh and it was always I'll get back to you on that.

Uh of course she never did.

So, I want to talk about Joe Biden.

Now, it turns out through this revelation that he was at cabinet meetings. They would have to talk to the cabinet secretaries ahead of time, find out their questions, get the answers, and jot the answers and hand them to Joe Biden for his own cabinet meetings. He could not talk off the cuff more than three minutes. They had to put everything on prompter. They say that they really couldn't conduct any meetings.

They totally blocked for him for years.

Now, it's all in this book that Jake Tapper suddenly realized how detached Joe Biden was. What is your take on CNN anchor CNN anchor cashing in on information he could have got four years ago?

Well, I think it's pretty disgusting and despicable because Jake Tapper was one of those out there attacking people that were calling into question the exact thing that he is now trying to make a dollar off of.

So he was complicit in this just as much as anyone else. But look, I think that this was one of the greatest frauds that was perpetrated against the American people right up there with COVID. But we've got to find out who was really running this country because more and more we're learning details that Joe Biden was not in control of this country. Joe Biden was not the president of this country. And who was authorizing all of these auto pen signatures?

So I want you to hear When the biggest disaster in my lifetime has been the collapse of Afghanistan, worse than Saigon. Remember, the president said it's not going to be Saigon? Yeah, you're right, it's worse.

So when it was time to bring the generals, Mark, Millie, and McKenzie, forward, listen to what they said, Cut 6. I recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan. And I also recommended earlier in the fall of 2020 that we maintain 4,500 at that time. I also have a view that the withdrawal of those forces would lead inevitably to the collapse of the Afghan military forces and eventually the Afghan government. General Milley, I assume you agree with that in terms of the recommendation of 2,500?

What I said in my opening statement and the memoranda that I wrote back in the fall of twenty twenty remained consistent, and I do agree with that.

Okay, that's what the general said.

Now listen to what Joe Biden said. Cut seven. Your top military advisors warned against withdrawing on this timeline. They wanted you to keep about 2,500 troops. No, they didn't.

They were split. That wasn't true. It wasn't true. They didn't tell you that they wanted troops to stay. No, not in terms of whether we were going to get out in a time frame, all troops.

They didn't argue against that. No one said that to me that I can recall. You make sense of this now. Does he not know? Does he know and is lying?

I mean, if I'm a general and I have that type of bumbling idiot in front of me who's the president of the United States, and you had no problem throwing Trump onto the bus, calling China to say, don't worry, I'm in control. But you're not going to pull the 25th Amendment on that? Brian, there's a lot of questions that have to be answered. I mean, Vice President Harris, I mean, all of these Cabinet members, there's a whole line of people that need to be brought before us. I expect more of the military.

I expect more of the military. Well, of course you do, but understand this, that the last time you get evaluated or your record is reviewed by peers or someone next rank higher, that's Brigadier General, Rear Admiral. Two-star, three-star, four-stars, those are all political appointments. And I think that is something that we are starting to see: there has been a politicization of the upper ranks of the United States military. And all of this, you know, hoopla about Pete Hegseff wanting to reduce 20%.

You know, no one said anything when Barack Obama got rid of 197 generals over his first five years.

So again, we have now seen a politicization of the upper echelons of the military, and we've got to get a military and core leadership that understands their oath is to the Constitution, not to a political party, not to a person, and they're supposed to do what is right by that oath and the safety and security of the American people. All right. It's just, I don't believe that the president just found out that he has this advanced cancer. You know, cancer is cancer, and I know it's real, but there's no way that they were not. This is either the worst doctor, this Kevin O'Connor, in the history of the medical profession, who's a marginal osteopath who said the president cognitively is great and had no need for a PSA test for his prostate.

He's the one man who doesn't need a prostate test. He's only the president of the United States with a full-time doctor following him around.

So either he's the worst doctor ever, or he's just a liar. You know, I it's hard to believe that all of a sudden we know that Joe Biden has stage four cancer that's metastasizing to his bones. And that just happened in the last month or two. That's just not medically feasible. And you even had Ron Emmanuel's brother, Dr.

Zeke Emmanuel, say that on a left-wing news outlet.

So again, the fraud and the deception and the lies and the cover-ups, it just continues to build against this Biden cabal. I guess that's the best way to put it. Good luck, Colonel, in your ride. I know it's going to be fun, and congratulations on the courage you show in doing that after that devastating incident a couple of years ago.

So and have a special Memorial Day. Thank you so very much. Honor Memorial Day and remember those who made the last full measure of devotion to this great nation. You got it. Back in a moment.

That's You're with Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. The main people complicit in hiding the non-functioning Biden were President Biden, First Lady Biden, Hunter Biden, and then his immediate circle of aides that other people in the White House called the Politburo, Mike Donnellin, Steve Roschetti, and some others. They were the ones who saw President Biden every day, up close and personal. And whether they were lying to themselves and everybody else or just everybody else.

And that is a big question. Right.

So, the question for Jake Tapper, he's coming back.

Now you're interested? For four years, I got countless hours of tapes of you just defending him, ripping Trump, going back and forth. You notice. The guy was a MIA all the time and never bothered you, never bothered your press team. But now you and Alex Thompson get the story, evidently.

So. Good luck with that. You know, I As Jon Stewart said last night, I mean, isn't your job to report the news, not wait for November to happen, for him to lose? And then you say, finally, open season, I will not get criticized. I will not get criticized for bringing it up.

So as was A very gentle roasting in the monologue last night on the Daily Show. He'll probably go out and sell, and everyone's hawking this book with absolutely no problem throwing Joe Biden.

Now, if it was an anti-Trump book, I'm like, no kidding. They rip Trump every day. It makes total sense. They think he was inadequate. I don't know.

It doesn't deserve to. Whatever. You can watch CNN. You know exactly. If they were an anti-Trump book, good luck.

You know, I think that guy, Brian Selter. Uh Stellater did write an anti-Trump book, an anti-five. That goes fine. That's what he does every day. But I mean to write an anti-Biden book After you put him on the glide path to winning.

and then ask no tough questions for four years. Where he gave you almost no access, and we've had some of the most horrible decisions from the rescue package to the Inflation Reduction Act pass. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian? Kill mead.

Hi, everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Chow. I come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world.

So I NYU, one of the speakers there at NYU, I guess class president. gave an anti-Israeli speech, anti-Semitic speech, and half the faculty stood up and cheered for it, even though it was off script. And they said, if you go off script, we're going to shut your mic. And she went off script, and they didn't. And half the faculty got up and cheered for her.

Fearing backlash in my view, they held back her diploma. But I mean, does that amaze you? I'm continuing to be amazed by the anti-Semitism raging through so many universities. And it's not just the elite universities either. In fact, a lot of the faculty go through the city college.

I mean, you can't be more anti-Semitic than City College in New York City. This hour, we're going to talk to Doran Spielman, the IDF spokesperson, former VP of the City of David, and author of a brand new book, When the Stones Speak: The Remarkable Discovery of the City of David, and What Israel's Enemies Don't Want You to Know. We'll do a Samo Cask with Varney and Company after that.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. I think the president is going to encourage everyone this morning to get in line and get the votes done. We need to deliver this for the American people. The American First Agenda is all wrapped up into one big bill, and we're really excited to deliver it this morning.

But see, they have a long way to go in order to do it. But the big, beautiful bill countdown, Trump storms into the Capitol Hill to talk with his House members, and it's going to try to push the blue states with Republican people and the red states and come together when it comes to Medicaid and when it comes to salt. Number two. You said last week that you thought nothing was going to happen, no advances would be made until you and Putin got together. Do you still feel that way?

I think something's going to happen. Big ego's involved, I tell you. Big ego's involved, but I think something's going to happen.

Well, let's see. Can't quit, Mr. President. That's what J.D. Vance is talking about on Monday.

If these guys don't come together, we're out. It's not our war. I think it is. A Putin and Trump talk. Little accomplished, biggest worry, we throw in the towel.

I say we slap them hard with sanctions. Number one. We had multiple cabinet members that said if there had been a crisis, especially in 2024, late in the middle of the night, they did not have confidence that Joe Biden would necessarily be up to that task. And as a result, you sort of have the institutional aspects of the presidency that would have probably tried to take hold. There you go.

Biden declined. A flood of intel shows he was an empty vessel. But aides and secretaries, still too gutless to put their names, and their alarming revelations. Medical experts claim he could not have had just found out now about advanced cancer, including Ezekiel Emmanuel, who came out and said there's just no way that he got this within the last hundred days, which is just more deception, even though cancer is obviously the most serious. But we've been lied to about the Russia situation.

We've been lied to about the laptop situation, both we knew. And now we get lied to about his mental health. Physical health, what he was able to do, who was making the decisions, and now people that ignored it are getting to cash in on it. Alan Dershowitz joins us now, Harvard Law Professor and a former Harvard Law Professor and author of a brand new book, The Preventive State: The Challenge of Preventing Serious Harms While Preserving Essential Liberties. Professor, welcome back.

Well, thanks. It's always a pleasure to be on with you. Thanks for having me.

So, how new is this to you, or what stands out to you about all the revelations about Biden's health now?

Well, I'm not surprised. I've known Joe Biden since 1980. I worked with him on Ted Kennedy's campaign for president. I've always liked Joe. He's a really, really nice guy.

I spent time with him. But clearly he was diminished. And like many people, when you get to be about 80, I've been very lucky. I'm 86. I just finished my 57th book.

Good to me, but a lot of my friends who are in their 80s begin to suffer mental declines. And it was very obvious in Trump and the Biden case. And the chutzpah that many Democrats had when they claimed, oh, don't worry, Trump has the same problem. He's also diminished. Look at Trump.

My God, no president in history has done more in four months and been more energetic in four months. You could agree with him, you can disagree with him, but you cannot deny the fact that he's on top of his game. Listen to Zeke Emmanuel. Obviously, his brother's Rahm Emmanuel. He's a Democrat.

He worked on the transition campaign and worked on the pandemic for President Biden. This is what he said yesterday: cut 14. But this is it is also aggressive. When we talk about aggressive, part of what we mean is that Gleason's score, that score is from two, well, it's two up to ten, and he's at a nine. And that means that the cancer doesn't look normal.

It looks very abnormal, which is probably why it's in the bone. And it has been around for a very long time in President Biden years. Exactly how many we don't know, obviously. And it is a little surprising to many of us oncologists that he wasn't diagnosed earlier. And the question is: Wuzzy, with that tracker, what I just explained to you: does anyone trust something like this?

I mean, we should know it. Go ahead. It's interesting because I have this new book called The Preventive State, and it deals mostly with crime and terrorism, but it also deals with medicine. It also deals with how we are moving much more toward prevention rather than only cure. And the idea that He had this rampant cancer for a long time while he was president.

I mean, I get a PSA test every, what, six months, every year, something like that. It picks up things like prostate cancer.

So, I mean, there are only two alternatives, as I think the former Surgeon General said: either malpractice on the part of his doctors, or they knew about it and they covered it up for political reasons. I can't think of a third alternative at this point.

So, let's talk about the preventative state. What do you mean in writing this book? You said the preventative state, the challenge of preventing serious harms while preserving essential liberties.

So, does the ends justify the means? If you have the right objective to inoculate a whole country to keep us safe, can you lie to us about it? Can you mandate things like that while sacrificing liberty?

Well, you know, the ends sometimes justify some means. If we could have prevented 9-11 or if Israel could have prevented October 7th by arresting a few people, even making some mistakes, that would be a trade-off that's worth it. If we could prevent the spread of COVID and a few people taking the inoculation suffer consequences, maybe that trade-off is worth it. But as Benjamin Franklin said, those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little bit of security deserve neither.

So the thesis of my book is that. You have to always have trade-offs, but the trade-offs have to be worth it. You have to know that by doing something, you're going to stop something worse. To give you two examples: number one, we're facing it now. Should we bomb Iran's nuclear facilities?

If we don't, the end result could be millions of deaths if Iran gets a nuclear weapon. But if we do, the result may be unnecessary deaths. Britain and France faced the same problem in a larger form, even in 1935 when they could have destroyed the German army before they killed 50 million people in the Second World War. They failed to do that. That was a terrible, false negative, a terrible mistake.

They thought something wouldn't happen, and it did happen.

So we have all kinds of mistakes both ways. And this new book, The Preventive State, is designed to create a framework, a jurisprudence for how we make predictive decisions. Take, for example, deportation. We are deporting people in order to prevent them from committing horrible crimes, but sometimes we deport the wrong people. People, or we deport them too quickly.

How many mistakes in deportation are we prepared to make in order to prevent how many crimes? And I think the Supreme Court is basically sending a message saying: President Trump, you have the right to decide who stays in this country, but you have to dot every constitutional I and cross every constitutional T. You have to make sure that you give them some semblance of due process.

So the deportation issue, the Iran issue, the COVID issue, these are all instances of the preventive state in operation. And that's why at age 86, I've written what I call my magnum opus. I've written 57 books, and this is the most important one because it talks about how we deal with our future because we are moving more toward prevention and away from just reaction. And we have to do it in the right way. Right.

So let's go with the Aliens Enemies Act, which the Supreme Court said does not apply here. It's not invasion.

So that kind of was a setback because the president wants to be able to say, hey, a legal immigrant committed a crime. Here's your job. Jumpsuit, this is your plane ticket, you're gone. We're dumping you somewhere, whether it's Sudan or El Salvador. And now the Supreme Court says: no, you gotta have your day in court.

Can I ask you, does it have to be a Can it be a semblance of that? For example, can it be a hearing without a lawyer? Can it just be a moment where you have it in front of a judge? Can it be a pseudo-judge? Yeah, and it could be by Zoom.

It doesn't have to be in person. You can deport people based on problem cause and then give them the right to go to an American embassy and seek due process by Zoom. Remember, due process only means the process that's due to you based on your status and what you're accused of. And the legislature can solve this. They could amend the act and they could say that it doesn't require an invasion.

All it requires is danger from illegal immigrants. And then you get the power. Congress has been sitting on its hands. Congress would solve a lot of these problems. It could solve the problem of birthright citizenship.

It could say that if a person is born to illegal aliens in the United States and stays there only two or three weeks or two or three months, that person is not, quote, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, therefore, under the Constitution, not subject to getting citizenship.

So Congress could do a great deal to alleviate this problem. Right now, we have only two branches of the government operating. We have the Supreme Court. And the judiciary counteracting the executive. But the legislature is sitting on its hands.

And I think the legislature could be doing a lot more to ease the president's burden in trying to achieve these preventive results. That's what deportation is: it's designed to prevent. Illegal aliens who are criminals, gang members, from harming Americans. And, you know, we have to have the power to prevent. We have to have the power to prevent the 9-11.

Israel has to have the power to prevent October 7th. And it's much better to prevent than to react.

So if we can do it preventably, imagine how much easier it would have been if Israel had been able to prevent October 7th, or if we had been able to prevent the events that occurred in Pearl Harbor, any of those things. But to do it, we have to make predictive and preventive decisions. And in my book, The Preventive State, I try to create a framework for how we make those decisions.

Well, let's look at Israel if we can. Looks like Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, yesterday, said, we're going to be in control of Gaza. And by the way, everyone out of Conunis, because we're going in there next. That upsets our European friends, and they said that they quickly got to get aid to Gaza. We're getting aid.

We have urged them to get aid to some of the Palestinians. Your reaction to where at this point, two and a half years later, where it looks like the Israelis have to take this back because Hamas is not giving up. Absolutely. And what they did the other day, killing Mohamed Sinoa along with a dozen or so of his commanders, was a perfect example of preventive action. They saved many lives by doing that, and they did it proportionally.

And yet, France and England and Canada are saying, oh, we're going to impose sanctions on Israel. They were much worse when it came to Iraq. Many mistakes in Iraq, many more people killed, and yet they blame Israel for responding to what was a genocidal attempt on its population. 1,200 innocent people killed, 250 captured. Israel's been acting absolutely properly and proportionally.

And I hope that they do get rid of Hamas in Gaza. Gaza was returned to the Palestinians in 2005. It could have been Singapore in the Mediterranean. It could have been the most beautiful area. I've been to Gaza.

I've eaten in communists. It's a beautiful city with great food, but the Hamas has taken it over and turned it into a hell. It's all their fault. And if you can restore Gaza to a situation where Hamas has no control over it, maybe you can get some peaceful resolution between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. But with Hamas in charge, there's no possibility of peace.

Do you want to see Israel take action against Iran, even if we are not a role? What I want to see is Trump give an absolute warning. Say within 30 days, if Iran doesn't dismantle all of its nuclear programs, enrichment of centrifuges, there will be an attack. I would hope Iran would back away and there wouldn't have to be an attack. But if there has to be an attack, let Israel do it.

Let the United States provide them bunker-busting bombs and B-52s. Israel will never ask for boots on the ground from Americans. What they would like, of course, is technological help, help maybe in repelling rockets. But Israel can do it on its own, and it will save the world and the Gulf an enormous amount of grief if Iran does not develop a nuclear bomb. That's a perfect example of prevention, how the preventive state could stop.

A cataclysmic event of Iran developing nuclear weapons. How do you see the conflict with the Trump administration and Harvard playing out ultimately? I have a new book coming out called Trump to Harvard: Go Fund Yourself. And I think that Trump has been doing the right thing, putting pressure on anti-Semitic schools and making it clear that they would have done the same thing in the 1950s if the Klans were trying to prevent black students from going to school in the 1950s. And what the left, the hard left, and the anti-Israel radicals are doing to Jewish students at Columbia, at Penn, at Harvard, at other places is unacceptable under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.

And the administration has the right to do something about it.

Now, they shouldn't be cutting back funding on cancer research and on other scientific research, but they should be cutting back funding on the politization of much of universities. If you today try to take a course in a university in political science or sociology, you're going to get propaganda for the most part. You're not going Going to get teaching. Are the professors, I taught at Harvard 50 years, aren't teaching their students how to think. They're teaching them what to think.

They're propagandizing them. And universities have an important role to play, and the federal government has an important role to play to make sure that universities comply with the law. Let's see if they understand that Trump is not going to give up and they're going to have to come. They can get all the lawyers they want, but they're going to go to the mat for this. I don't think you have obligated to give people grant money.

Alan Dershowis, congratulations on your latest book, The Preventive State: The Challenge of Preventing Serious Harms While Preserving Essential Liberties. Thanks so much, Professor. Pleasure. Thank you. Back in a moment.

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announcement at this time If it were hoped that this was going to begin to put the fire out on all this new, renewed controversy over the president's mental acuity and while he was president and during the campaign, I think it has not done that because people are skeptical of why this is coming out at this time. And the questions continue to arise. And now there's even the possibility that if they knew he had this and he were being treated for it, as the doctor just said, one of the possible symptoms of that is falling down, which he certainly did several times. We remember it so vividly when he fell going up the stairs to Air Force One and at other times.

So that is Britt Hume. He's 100% right. Nobody wants anybody to get cancer. Anybody at any time, President Trump on top of that, making sure everybody understands it. But the problem is, the way it was announced, the severity in which that's been told to us.

Doctors say there's no way he just found out about this.

So are you entitled to your privacy? Yeah, but if you're a public figure and you're the president of the United States, the reason why your exams are public and everyone knows when you go to Walter Reed and everyone knows the results and the tests is because it's national security. Are you in charge? You know, it's not just bullet wounds, it's checkups. And people love having fun with Trump's checkups and he killed it each time in a fun way, positive way.

But then you have this Dr. Kevin O'Connor, the same guy who says he's cognitively great. I'm not going to give him a test. I'm not going to give him a PSA test. I'm not going to, he's doing great.

He's healthy except for some stiffness in his back. Oops, by the way, advanced cancer. What? Either he's the worst doctor or the best liar. Because if you look at his background, he's hardly an elite physician with a huge, fantastic track record of success or even in the military or beyond.

Are these an osteopath?

So this guy, I agree, this guy's got to be called in front of Congress. Because why was the 25th Amendment not taken if they have half the stuff that is now out about him being out of it for four years? It is the utter definition why you have a 25th Amendment, not because you disagree with moves that they were talking about with Trump. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

Phoebe Netanyahu on October 8th said: We're gonna go into Gaza, get rid of Hamas. He's always making a ceasefire. I don't believe in a month from now or two months from now he's gonna control Gaza. In fact, Israel has not won a war since the six-day war. We always stop with a ceasefire.

P.B. Netanyahu is starting to notice. Hey, he got guitar. He got the UAE, he got the Saudi Arabia, I better do something nice for the United States, and they want me to go and bring in some food, I'll bring in some food. And this is what's really being happening right now.

He is being pushed out because Donald Trump said to him, get rid of Hamas. He didn't do it. And now he's coming out and saying, oh, we will control it. You said it a year and a half ago. Get it done.

So Rabbi Mensa weighing in right now and here to talk about that and more is Doran Spielman. He is the IDF spokesperson with the Further Reserves, former VP of the City of David, and author of a brand new book where The Stones Speak, The Remarkable Discovery of the City of David, and What Israel's Enemies Don't Want You to Know. We'll have to talk about. First off, do you want to respond to that, Rabbi? Sure.

I actually would. I think that the fact that Israel got Qatar and Israel got the UAE is a little bit inaccurate. What does it mean we got Qatar? Qatar is the number one sponsor of Hamas terrorism, the number one sponsor of Hezbollah. And I'm not sure what that means that we got Qatar.

In fact, Qatar got something that we didn't want them to get, which is a $38 billion security package, which we're very concerned could include F-35 fighter jets, which would. cause Israel to lose their quality of military edge. I don't see what Israel's gotten out of this deal so far. From the Gulf states.

So, do you think that is it true that Israel does use Qatar as a touch point that to be able to talk to Hamas? They don't mind that Qatar has Hamas heads there because they need somebody to talk to? Exactly. Qatar has been holding Hamas and has housed the Hamas major terror leaders, Ismail Khania. All the leaders of Hamas are there.

They funded Hamas.

So, unfortunately, when you want to speak to a terror organization, you're speaking to their closest friends, which is Qatar, which is the problem. Qatar plays both sides of the fields. They have a huge U.S. airbase, and therefore there's a connection with the United States. They're also in bed completely with Iran.

They are the ones that housed the leader and the mastermind behind the 9-11 massacre and gave him refuge. You're looking at a state that's divided down the middle that's playing both sides. I think from an Israeli perspective, Qatar is certainly not a friend. They're simply the touch point for Hamas, our biggest enemy. Do you think that they have no choice but to deal with Iran?

Say that they have no army, and they say it's a rough neighborhood, and they have no choice. If they didn't have friendly relationship with Iran, Iran would take their country. Is that true? No, I don't think so. The U.S.

has the largest air base in the entire Middle East there. If Iran would try to go into Qatar, the U.S. has enough firepower there to completely obliterate Iran and the entire Middle East. I don't think so at all. That's simply a lame excuse.

That's what Da Vichy France said when they joined Hitler. And so, what? We're going to make excuses for them for joining. Iran, the terror enemy of the world. I think they can stand up and show a little bit of background and loyalty to the U.S.

Prime Minister Netanyahu yesterday said: we're going to control Gaza. And he told everyone in Khan Eunice: get out, we're going in. And he also said we are going to put aid into Gaza. your reaction on executing both. I think the two go hand in hand.

In fact, we've seen that 1.8 million tons of aid have gone to Gaza. That is a ton, one ton of aid per person in Gaza. What's the problem? The people in Gaza don't have that aid because the international organizations are either too corrupt or ineffective in delivering to the people. The only way the aid is going to reach those babies and those mothers is if the Gaza Strip is under full and complete Israeli control.

We can protect them and deliver it directly into their hands. Brian, I was on those humanitarian corridors. I saw the way that the IDF is protecting those people. It's ironic. We were protecting the humanitarian corridor, and Hamas was firing rockets from the humanitarian corridor, putting those people at risk.

This is the insane Hamas cares nothing for those people. They steal their food. They put them in the way of fire. The only thing that's going to protect the people of Gaza is actually Israel. It may be hard to believe, but that's the truth.

People have the Palestinians have stood up, right? And they've started to speak out against Hamas and have Israel backed up those people, identified who they are. Yes, we have, and we've tried to encourage them to continue to speak out. Ode Rebi, that was the 21-year-old kid who stood up very bravely, and the answer was by Hamas as they dragged his body through the streets. He was handed back to his family with a noose around his neck, wearing only his underpants.

10,000 people attended his funeral screaming, Allah Akbar, death to Hamas, Allah Wakbar, Hamas of the Terrace. But the international community has got to support these people and realize the people of Gaza hate Hamas. The only way they're going to really be able to express this, though, Brian, is if we're in control of all of Gaza, and they know they're not going to be hunted down and killed if they speak up. How close is that to happening? I think if we have the green light and we're not flittering and fluttering, we could finish this within three months.

Absolutely. Hamas is at the end. The only reason they're negotiating right now with their number one chip is because we have them pushed to the end. We've created corridors in Gaza. We've trapped them inside of Khan Yunus and Rafa.

All we need is the push of the end. Our soldiers are ready. They're incredibly motivated. But if we're wishy-washy, they're just going to hang on.

Now you're clearing land and holding land. Should you have done that earlier? Even Ben-Gurion, the founder of the State of Israel, said the only way to win a war is to strike fast, hold land, and be decisive. Without holding land, you can't defeat an enemy like this. They simply go underground and pop back up in another area.

They've reconstituted themselves multiple times. If we hold land, just like the U.S. and the Allies did in World War II, we can snuff out Hamas.

So let's talk about, too, the chances with Iran. It looks like February, I guess, Netanyahu was like, we need to do this. Their defenses are down. Their proxies are hurt. Let's go in.

And Trump was reluctant to do it. Can Israel act alone? Israel can't act alone. And I think, Brian, that this signals an evolution in the U.S.-Israel relationship. We understand the U.S.'s interests in the Middle East.

Israel also has interests in the Middle East. You know, we did not elect President Trump. We're very favorable to him, but we elected Prime Minister Netanyahu. Israel has got to become an independent entity where we are able to fulfill our interests. No question, this is the historical opportunity that the Jewish people, decades and millennia-long people, will look back and say, did we defeat the enemy that wants to destroy us now or did we let it pass by?

With all due respect, every other nation in the world, we have to take our own fate into our own hands.

So let's talk about your book, When the Stone Speaks.

So many times people want to get into this debate and say, who was there first? The Palestinians their land, back and forth. What did you discover through an archaeological dig about who was there first? You know, Brian, when we reach into the ground, we have unearthed thousands, thousands of artifacts with ancient Hebrew writing on them that have names from the Bible. Including the names of two people who tried to kill the prophet Jeremiah, the inscription from King Hezekiah that built the underground water source that saved the Jewish people in the book of Kings.

It's incredible when you open up the Bible and you go beneath the ground and you actually can touch the stuff that 1.5 billion people in the world connect to. The issue is for Islam, and it shouldn't be an issue because Muhammad knew this, is all these things are 1,100 years before Islam was even founded. That's only an issue because today the head of the Palestinian Authority, the head of the Hamas, Qatar, they all deny the Jewish and Christian historical roots in Jerusalem. And when it meets the archaeology in the city of David, it completely disintegrates their narrative. We should go back to what the UN mandate was, was it the Balfour Declaration, right?

That said you were going to divide the land. And the Palestinians said, no, if we can't have it all, we don't want it. They left. No question. Israel and then they want it back.

Now they want it all. It's insane. It's insane, Brian. It is a historical piece of insanity. Israel accepted one-third of what they were offered by the United Nations in order to make peace with the Arabs.

They said absolutely no and launched a war. And the only reason we have this territory today is because we defended ourselves. And with God's graces and tough Israeli fighters, we received this line. In fact, there's probably no country that has more of a legal right to its land in the world than Israel has because we got it by defending ourselves. And I watched you speak and we spoke on television.

You really believe that Israel's got to make their own have their own military industrial base. No question. If I look back, we have the innovation. We have the ability. It's going to take eight to 12 years.

And if I call on the United States government and the American people who I know love Israel, stand with Israel. This is your biggest gift to Israel. Help us stand on our own. When I look into the archaeology, we've seen, I see it in the City of David. I see it in my book, When the Stones Speak.

We've seen the Romans, the Greeks, all of Israel's enemies have passed us by, but we've been here. We've been here because we were an independent country. Help us become independent, and that will give you the best ally that you have in the entire world. Doran Spielman's here. His book is now out.

It's called When the Stones Speak.

So, one of the questions is: if Israel did strike like they did in Iraq, like they did to take out Syria's program, how successful would they be? Robert Gates said this on the downside of hitting it militarily, Cut32. The problem that I've had with a strike on the Iranian nuclear program is that it buys you a year or two. You're not going to be able to strike short of as long as you're using conventional weapons. You cannot get at the very deeply buried parts of the Iranian nuclear former Secretary of Defense.

Absolutely. I hear what he's saying, and obviously he has a lot of experience in the field, but that doesn't prevent you from hitting your enemy. Meaning, your enemy can always reconstitute. The Nazis could have reconstituted after World War II. What prevented it was absolutely annihilating them and then annihilating their ideology.

The people of Gaza, the people of Iran, the people of Israel's enemies, they will rise up if those regimes come down. The people of Iran took to the streets to take down that regime. I was in a taxicab in New York with an Iranian. He was driving me around. He heard I was from Israel.

He said, Everyone in Iran is waiting for you to bomb. The old Muftis that are in the center of Tehran, they're all waiting for you to take out this caliphate. Israel used to, Jews used to be welcome in Omran. Absolutely. There's still 24,000 of them in Iran, but living with a knife to their necks.

Hey, pick up this great book. It is called When the Stones Speak: The Remarkable Discovery of the City of David and What Israel's Enemies Don't Want You Know. Doran, thanks so much. Thank you, Brian. You're the best.

Back in a moment. Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney, live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome back.

In a matter of moments, we're going to go on FBN, do a simulcast. At the bottom of the hour, Pete, we could probably try to convert some of these calls and try to squeeze a couple in. Or you can go to BrianKillmee.com and just jot down some of your emails. I'll pull it up and I'll get to it to get you some interaction here because there's a lot of moving parts. President behind closed doors right now with his Republican caucus, at which time he's going to conjole them to get together on a deal.

On the big beautiful bill, get it out of the house. A rules committee on Wednesday. They're supposed to do it, I think, some odd ni uh hour, like midnight. And then And then they're going to have a vote on Thursday. And can you imagine?

Because they want to get out by Friday because it's Memorial Day weekend. I don't know. I say you stay.

Okay, President Trump, this is live, he just emerged from the meeting. Let's listen. Give yourself a rubber. Let me tell you. Let me tell you.

I think we have unbelievable unity. I think we're going to get everything we want. And I think we're going to have a great victory. And Ms. Mabel's done a great job.

And I think this was a tremendous session. You may want to say so. Yeah, it was a great meeting. The party is unified. The House Republican Conference is excited.

Multiple standing ovations. They love this president. The people back home love what he's doing. It's historic. And everybody understands the scope and the meaning of this.

If we do not accomplish this mission, every one of you, all the American people, are going to have the highest tax increase that you've ever had. And among the debt ceiling clip that's approaching and all the other problems, this is the bill to do it. I think we're going to get dumbest president. The Democrats want to raise your taxes. If this doesn't work, if this doesn't get the numbers that the Republicans want, and I think it does, I think it's all Republicans want.

And the Democrats are going to be raising your taxes by 68%. And They will not do the significance. We've got to have an 85% cut in drug costs. 85% cut in drug costs. The Democrats, the drug prices are going to go up.

I can't imagine a Democrat not voting for this. I think the Democrats, if they don't vote for it, that means they're voting for an increase in drug prices. Think of that. Versus an eighty to an eighty five, maybe seventy five, it could be an eighty five percent cut in drug prices.

Okay.

Well, you're not challenging individual members. We need to make a pitch to international.

So let's come back now. We're going to do a simulcast in FBM, but the President of the United States comes out in the unscripted life in which we live now, and I love it. And Speaker Johnson, we get interrupted with news. We don't get interrupted with ceremonial things like the parting of a turkey. We go, hey, I just went behind closed doors on a Titanic bill, the biggest one.

A piece of legislation he's ever passed, and we're very close to getting it through the House. The one report I see from Politico is this. Trump's quote: Don't F around with Medicaid. Trump moves to steamroll the megabill opposition. Trump made this movie.

He says the message was delivered in equal measure on both sides of the fractuous conference according to Politico, the conservative hardliners who have been pushing for deeper cuts in Medicaid. Trump made crystal clear he did not support additional slashing. Don't blank with it. Trump said in response to a question from Politico that hardliners needed to pare back their demands for deeper spending cuts. He said, I'm a bigger fiscal hawk.

He said, but there's nobody like me. He's also aimed at salt and Republicans.

So The problem is uh the debt And the fiscal conservatives are saying we're going to add $2.5 trillion to the debt.

Now, that's putting growth at something that the CBO Has their own way of projecting, that's fine. But there is going to be debt in this until The tax increases, the energy decreases, the incentives. The red tape is cut, at which time maybe growth can get back to where it was. You know, roughly, Senator Ron Johnson has said not enough cuts in here. Senator Rand Paul says we had too much to the debt.

Senator Susan Collins says I'm concerned about touching Medicaid. Senator Josh Harley says, if you touch Medicaid, I won't vote for it.

So that's what's waiting for the Senate on the other side.

So, the Senate bill looks dramatically different. They want to wait for the House to finish, and that's exactly what they're going to do. Sandra in New Jersey. Hey, Sandra. Hello, good morning, Blaw.

It's always great to listen to you every day. Brian, two things. One, I was very, very honored and privileged to host an event for Alan Dershowitz this month, and he spoke about his book, Preventative State. He warns us in this book that you know, the government wants to help you, so they overreach. And in doing so, they end up harming the same thing they're trying to help.

This book is great, as all his books are. I appreciate it. Thank you very much, Sandra. Let's go to Gary in Daytona, Florida. Gary.

Yeah, good. Good morning, Brent. Really quick. I'd seen the press conference, Governor Landrew in Louisiana said that he. That he understands the corruption is prevalent there and mismanagement, and the people can't do their jobs.

Well, in the state of Florida, Governor DeSantis, several times. has polled district attorneys. He's relieved sheriffs of their duty. If they didn't follow the procedures of the federal government or or his state. And I'm just wondering if it's if he's really that helpless there, he he doesn't have the power.

to uh oversee those systems. That's a great question. Maybe we should get Governor Landry on. We're tight with him, and we'll probably try to get him on sometime this week and ask him, because we know that we were waiting f to see if the governor would ever relieve Alvin Bragg here in New York. But of course, Their governor wouldn't if they're in the same party, but maybe this would be different.

Harold in Midland, Texas. Hey, Harold. Hey Guy, I really appreciated your show yesterday on Trey Galli's comments. I need to tell that Southern guy he he really does need to slow down his speech for for emphasis. On this commercial.

But in regards to his comments on the interest rate, he said that we couldn't do anything about it. I think we need to audit the Fed and find out who we're paying, paying all these trillions of dollars a year in interest to. And regarding another comment on invasion, regarding he said, you know, in the history past, no real cartels. Oh, yes, there were. Who do you think there were who do you think the mercenaries, of course, you know more about it than I do, but the mercenaries that were hired, the Germans and such that we fought in the Revolutionary War.

Yes, and the cartel that who who was it that they they spoke to that when they when they went to hire these guys up, you know, they they spoke to the cartel bosses, right? You know, at one point we're going to have to get involved with the cartels. I think that's the next level. But right now, we're doing a good job sealing the border. But the cartels, their day is coming, believe me.

I've heard a lot of talk about it. They won't do it without Mexico's permission, but they know how, and they really have the government hostage in many respects. All right, don't forget to go to BrianKillMe.com. I can't wait to meet you in person, June 21st, Daytona, Florida, History, Liberty, and Laughs. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmeat Show. I see in the background the President of the United States is talking again. He's talking a couple of times before he met with the Republican caucus on the House side.

And now, after, now it's the second time. He's giving progress on the bill, and he's trying to get the The Republicans in the blue states to get along with the Republicans in the red states when it comes to Medicaid and also when it comes to writing off your state and local taxes. This hour, we're going to be joined by Tom Holman. The Borders are doing an extraordinary job. Also, he got a big reprieve yesterday.

We are allowed to throw out the 350,000 Venezuelans who came here on special dispensation thanks to Joe Biden without screening, as usual.

Meanwhile, Zavika Klein is here. He was the editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post. He has an article out right now, The Missing Face in Israel's War. Where is the IDF spokesperson? And Zavika's here in New York putting together a heck of a conference.

You were kind enough to have me on, and you interviewed me yesterday. You're looking ready to go. You're looking for another 12 hours on stage. What do you think?

I'm on fumes at the moment. It was great. It was great to have you, and it was fun to ask you questions. Right, for a change. And not the opposite.

But it was good. It was a mix of political figures from the United States. You know, Social media influencers from both countries, et cetera, business people.

So it really was a mix of the relations between these two countries, the Jewish community. And what right now is the sense in Israel about Donald Trump now that he's taken office? I get the term unpredictable is making your job challenging. And yours too. Right, exactly.

Um, so it's interesting.

So there I we keep on seeing reports, um, about the fact, you know, all these, you know, reports of sources from, you know, within the White House, close to the White House, around the White House, saying that Donald Trump is Either uh tired of of of of waiting for Netanyahu to make a move or is concerned about which, by the way, I'm sure he is concerned, right? About uh what's happening in Gaza. And uh I think even maybe, you know, I think uh Adam Bowler yesterday said, um, you know, it's not none of us want to see children being killed in Gaza. That's not that's not something we want to see. Uh at the same time, you know, people are a bit frustrated from from Expecting some sort of magic to happen last week when he was in the Middle East, President Trump.

And you know. You know, I think, but, you know, those who are in the administration have all. Can you imagine a visit to Israel to end with a visit to Israel? Not even necessarily a visit, but like an announcement. Because, you know, there's a lot of Israelis who are just fed up in general, whether with Netanyahu, whether with the war, people have been hostages.

But like, so people, like the average Israelis been in reserves for, I don't know, I have a reporter, you know, who's been in Gaza now for the third time in reserves. You know, he's an adult. He's not in he's not he's not in you know it's not his job but It's a big issue.

So people are looking up to him, to President Trump. And expecting, in a sense, it's weird, like him to be able to want either to break a deal, to force Netanyahu to do something. I don't know. It's an interesting situation. But the officials that we hear from are all saying there's no night and day between the United States and Israel.

And Anna Buller said yesterday that the IDF operation in Gaza at the moment actually helped release the hostage Yidan Alexander last week from Hamas captivity, which is an American. American move with Hamas, nothing to do with Israel or necessarily the mediators. You know, it's uh it's a here's Adam Bowler from yesterday: cut 60. The way I think about President Trump, both in 1945, in between during President Biden and now, is I don't think the support's ever wavered. He happens to be a very consistent person.

He likes when there's consistency on the other side. And I don't think there's ever been a change in support for Israel, Israeli State, the Jewish people broadly. You see everything we're doing, anti-Semitism.

So he says no wavering. You know, Bull was very tight with the president. You know, he had a lot to do with the Abraham Accords. Right.

And he knows the Middle East, right? He's not like, he wasn't parachuted in from nowhere. What do you mean like Steve Witkoff? Right, exactly. But he's got other qualities, Steve Witkoff, right?

But, you know, Saddam Buller knows the region, comes from this background, etc.

So it's a big question whether, and you know what? Also, even though Trump, you know, as you said, unexpectable or whatever, but sometimes things take a few days. Right? Like there can potentially be, hopefully, things happening behind the scenes that are actually moving forward to something that we're not aware of. But, you know, there's so many contradicting reports from sources, quote unquote.

I will hear more from Bowler yesterday on what it meant when President Trump didn't go from a Gulf State to a Gulf State to a Gulf State to Israel. Cut 59. Every foreign visit obviously is not a referendum on a particular country one way or the other. Trump obviously has engaged with Beebe. It was his first visit.

I think Bebe has been three times. There may have been a quick return back on the tariff side, but maybe it's two. But a lot of interaction, and certainly during those visits, a good portion of those visits was discussing the hostage situation broadly as well as the perspective of joining the Abraham Accords. And so I think Israel was close at mind in those, independent of whether there was another stop, et cetera. Your thoughts.

How is it perceived in in Jerusalem? Um yes. I mean, I think I think people uh We were reassured by what Adam Bowler had to say. Interestingly, I think Adam Bowler also, you know. Up until I would say two weeks ago, he was pretty much a controversial figure.

Because he was mediating directly with Hamas. Which we'd never have done before. Right.

Though I don't know enough, maybe you know this more, like that position of the hostage envoy or whatever it's called, basically it's American citizens, right? That's his jurisdiction.

So supposedly, I mean, that's really the only official that's theoretically allowed. Right.

I mean, he goes from Afghanistan to Russia.

So you have to, you have to, as he said, he said yesterday, like, I have to speak to the bad guys. Like, that's my job. Right? And I think the fact that he was really there with the Dan Alexander, American Israeli citizen, being released together with Steve Witkoff. You know, that he's not a bad guy.

Right.

And, you know, he comes, I think he comes from the Jewish community.

So I think it was really important for him to kind of show the complexity. And we're in an era where it's very difficult to portray complexity.

So, right now, I guess the president made. Made clear, he says, I'm tired of seeing starving babies. We can't do that.

So in comes the aid. They're going to find a way to do it. And you've got to create the roads to do it. He also said, out of Khan Yunus to all the citizens, I'm going in again.

So they're going to clear and hold. The Israelis are going to, you guys are going to clear and hold. How close do you think is this operation to being done where there's so few Hamas left because you just killed another leader, Mohammed Sinwar? Right.

With few left that you could say they're no longer a threat. This operation, from what I'm hearing from people from within the IDF. is I'm going to try and Choose my words carefully. There's no r real endgame. Like the units that are, you know, going in have s very specific objectives to like, you know, go go through certain areas, but like There's no real understanding of what.

The end game. There's a a big chunk of of parties and members that is not w that are not willing to stop Fighting, and they think that the best way to cause Hamas to, you know. To pick up that white flag and surrender is by force. Um others. Are on the fence.

I feel like as time goes by, people are softening up a little bit. But then Netanyahu would have that internal issue, but I think he could also overcome it. with a lot of centrist parties. Within the Knesset, that have been saying for a very long time, we will support the government from the outside, or even join us, a temporary unity government, in order to get some sort of a deal. That ends the war, has all the hostages returned.

Right.

Um, Eli Lake, who you know. Right? He's with the free press now. He said that you have a big div uh Israel has a big decision coming on Iran, cut thirty.

So, the Iranians are posturing right now, and what they're counting on is, I think, to string out the negotiations and try to rebuild their air defenses in the process and try to get into a better strategic situation. And I think they're counting on a kind of over-the-top panel. Paranoid hysteria from some voices in the US, on both the left and the right, that are going to say anything you do militarily against Iran is the start of World War III.

So, in my view, that is a ploy because you want the Iranians to think: all right, if you don't make a deal soon, bombs away. That's what you want the Iranians to think. And I think. Israel is going to have to make a choice in a couple of months if Trump doesn't commit, they might have to do it themselves. And I do think they have more capabilities than we kind of that they than sometimes let on in the public discourse.

What do you think about that scenario? And do you does Israel have more capabilities than one would think? Intelligence-wise, for sure. There are more capabilities, but not only intelligence. I mean, we've seen operations that the Mossad has taken out, whether acknowledged it or not.

in Iran that have been precise, exact, like an artwork of of of you know espionage um That said, I think I've spoken to many military experts that said in order to do what needs to be done with the nuclear facilities, Israel cannot do it without the United States militarily. I don't know enough about that, but th those who I've spoken to who are that's their you know, that's their turf, definitely believe that Israel cannot do that that final push attack without the United States with it. And it's a big question, right? Like, what will Israel have to do? What will Israel do if Trump actually does move forward there?

And it's a question: will this be very similar to the Obama, you know, the Obama administration agreement back in the day? Which was terrible. Which was terrible, right? Which allowed them to fund the proxies and use ballistic missiles and evaporate, and it just sunsets in 10 years. Right.

So, I mean, I don't see Republicans supporting that. It wouldn't get 40 votes. Right.

Because, remember, Chuck Schumer didn't vote for that. Ben Cardin didn't vote for that. Senator Menendez didn't vote for that.

So he never even put it up for Senate verification. Therefore, Trump came in and ripped it up with no, he didn't have a treaty to unwind. There was none. It was paper. Right.

So it's a very, I think just like the Middle East is really kind of. Like a boiling pot at the moment. But I do think it's less it is such an opportunity. It's so obvious that Iran's a problem. Yeah.

It is so more obvious than ever Iran's problem. The question is: how we get all these moderate countries and forces Together-ish. On board, right? I mean, we had Trump. You know, who's just like, I think it it it was amazing how he's like El Jalani, uh, yeah, you know, uh the head of Syria.

The head of Syria. I don't know if he called him the president or not, but yeah, leader, the leader, the leader. Um, you should uh normalize relations with Israel. And he's like, Yeah, when when when we stabilize, we will. Like Crazy.

It's amazing, Doug. It's amazing. Yeah. Are they good people? Not necessarily, but you don't only have diplomatic ties with good people.

You have to have, right? You just want to know there's not going to be terror being at the bottom. Exactly. Right at your border. And that's amazing.

And they look at Iran as the problem, too. Right.

And Lebanon as well, right? They have Hezbollah, which is Iran proxy, but Lebanon itself, those who are not part of Hezbollah are not. In that mindset. And if Iran was to go away or change governments, and those like Syria did, Syria, without Assad, is no longer an ally to Iran. If Iran, I know it's harder than it seems, but if this very unpopular government was decapitated and they were able to put somebody else in place, there would be a fresh start.

Right.

I mean, how could it be worse? Right.

In Saudi Arabia is really also a big question. I mean, you were just mentioning yesterday how these documents that were showing, I mean, there were conspiracy theories before but now there's actually documentation saying that part, like the main part of the October 7th attack on Israel 2023 was because Israel was about to normalize relations. With Saudi Arabia. With Saudi Arabia. And I even know, you know, back in the day, Jack Liu, who came to be an ambassador in Israel for Biden in the middle of the term, and he said to me, you know, black and white, he said, My objective is to ha to close a deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

That was my only My only mission. You know, it wasn't to to strengthen ties between Israel and the U.S. It was to do that. Right.

And October 7th made it not happen.

Well, I would say also it didn't help that President Biden's Policy said, Houthis, you're no longer on the terror watch list. You're a pariah nation, Saudi Arabia. That wasn't helpful to your cause. I mean, you're probably third on the list of people that are hurt, but fundamentally, it wasn't good to America's interest, as imperfect as Saudi Arabia is because they're the counter to Iran. Yeah, but I think we find out as time goes on how much cover-up there was about his situation.

Biden. And you know, we all know Biden is a true supporter of Israel. But what what was he aware of? You know what I'm saying? Like, what did he know?

And and and and I really feel like he was in a s in a situation that people were just feeding him certain information and decisions were being made by by, you know. Other people. And before we uh let you go, your thought what should the people know about the attitude of the people in Israel right now, uh as opposed to last year, even six months ago? What what is the mindset? Because in the north the threat has been diminished, the Hamas threat has been diminished, the Houthi threat is real totally diminished.

Yeah, but like yeah. Oh, but so your thoughts are like walking around Israel today. Do you feel like six months ago? People are are tired. People are are are People want Normal lives.

They want the hostages to return. And especially those who have been released, the hostages who have been released feel like they have this like. psychological Contradiction in in themselves of being happy and eating and whatever, but also like. They're guilty, yeah. Like they can't, and as I mentioned, you know, people have been in reserve duty for so long.

You know, yes, we are strong. Yes, we are resilient. We the people are are So so you know? I mean, I wanna be positive. I w I wanna think that it will be it will be good.

But we're not in the same place we were a year ago. I hear ya. Uh, better. I think you're better. I mean, it's harder, but yeah, I'm saying when it comes to spirit, when it comes to, yeah.

Hopefully, the 23 are out. There's even something. Adam Bolo has even said something that something might be on the table. I think 10 for two months of a ceasefire. I think you could do better than that.

Hopefully, they're all out. Or you just walk in and they're all out. Zavika Klein, the editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post. Great to see you. Thanks so much, Savannah.

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You won't believe what we found out. No, that's why I'm watching. That is hysterical. And that was Jon Stewart last night calling out the ridiculousness. Also, Allison, the author of that book about Apple was on with John last night.

We I think we have to put them on one nation. I I just think he'd be great. No, he's fantastic because even when he was here, we didn't even get into the implications of how Apple is sort of helping train China's military indirectly. Right, and the cars. They said they would not be able to mass produce electric cars if they didn't learn how to manufacture Apple products.

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What happens if they were to go and arrest these members or if they would try to sanction them here in the House of Representatives? They'll find out. It's a red line, it's very clear. First of all. I think that the so-called homeland Security spokesperson is a joke.

It's been made. Loudly and abundantly clear to the Trump administration. We're not going to be intimidated. By There. Tactics is the most unpopular president.

In American history, after his first 100 days, give me a break. No one's intimidated by this dude. No one. And so There are clear lines that they just Dare not cross.

So that was Keem Jeffries, obviously, who says a word every five minutes. They actually charged that congresswoman because you have to see the video. She stampedes through the fence, and evidently, Alexis McAdam was told behind the scenes when she gets beyond the fence, they tried to handcuff the mayor who wouldn't move.

So, as they go to do it, she jumped in between the ICE agent and the mayor, at which time, instead of creating an additional scene, they pushed everybody out and then they cuffed the mayor in front of everyone. And they said, Well, why are you making a scene of cupping the mayor? Because this congresswoman wouldn't get out of the way. And this woman thinks she can bulldoze. You have to see her.

She's like a running back, not even a running back. Running backs try to avoid tackles. She's running through people, try to get up the middle because she thinks there's children being harmed inside an ICE facility. What does she actually think about a law enforcement to think that children need her help outside Newark? Or is she just somebody that got all amped up?

think that this is going to help her career, thought that she could bully ICE agents because for some reason they're not popular with the American people, and thought she could just go do that.

So her name is Congresswoman LaMonica McGuyver. And there's going to be a hearing today on the examining threats to ICE operations. This will be front and center. If you're in ICE, you're dangerous. You're pulling out criminals that are here illegally.

My goodness, they got nothing to lose in many cases.

So Yeah. They're accusing her of uh MacIver of Assault Salt impeded and interfered with law enforcement in violation of Title 18, the U.S. Code. Alina Haba makes the charge. Tom Holman, when you see that video with everything you got on your plate, what were your thoughts when you heard this was going down and you saw this video?

That she should be arrested. I mean, I said from day one, you and I talked many times since day one, the administration, I said you cannot support ICE, shame on you, but you know, you got that right. You can protest, that's fine. You can stand by and support sanctuary cities, but you can't cross the line. You can't cross the line of impediments.

You cannot cross the line of knowingly harboring concealing illegal aliens. And you certainly can't cross the line, but put hands I'm in lice officer.

So I wasn't bluffing. I meant that. They crossed the line.

So I don't care what Hakeem Jeffy said. I put my red line out there first.

So we crossed this red line.

So, game on, bring it. We are enforcing the law without apology.

So with the mayor, according to our reporter, investigators told our reporter that McIver blocked police from putting handcuffs on the mayor while the group was inside the ICE facility. That is why the agents were forced to wait and handcuff the mayor when he was back outside of the gates that day. I mean, that's a tough decision for law enforcement to make. They could knock her out of the way and put cuffs on, but you have to worry about escalation, correct? And you have to also say, well, this is a U.S.

Congresswoman. Yes, you always got to be careful the actions you take. But the ICE officer's hand himself very professionally. I mean, and think about it. You're disrespecting shoving around ICE agents.

The very same week as Police Week that we're here in Washington, DC, honoring those who gave made the ultimate sacrifice. I went to a Borgtrip Memorial Service, I went to Ice Memorial Service, I went to Blue Mass up on National Law Enforcement the the wall of names of almost fallen. This same week, we're supposed to be honoring the sacrifice of law enforcement. You got a Congresswoman putting hands on somebody, trying to cause a disruption, putting politics over public safety. And if she simply would have gone and followed the rules, she could have gotten a tour of that facility.

Many people have. I mean, Rachel Campos went to that facility. And guess what? What did they find? One of the cleanest, finest, up-to-date facilities in the nation.

Are better than anything. New Jersey has a state or local facility.

So this should be a thing to themselves. But Alina Hava, God bless you. She's doing the right thing. No one's above the law. Haven't we heard that for four years?

Well, guess what? Either is members of Congress.

So how much harder is your job now that the Supreme Court said the Alien Enemies Act won't apply? Look, it makes it it makes it hard. And th they push it they push it back down to the district uh to the the the local circuit core. We're hoping to win it because, look, we're not making this up, Brian. We're using the laws on the books.

We're using every tool in our toolbox. Alien Enemies Act. Was it something that's written by Congress, enacted by Congress, and put in the statute? We're using it. And if anybody actually reads the Alien Enemies Acts, We didn't violate any part of the act.

People need to understand when you talk about due process. There's a less level due process than Alien Enemies Act is written in legislation on purpose.

So we're talking about the quick expulsion of those who are enemies of this nation. Those who are designated terrorists are enemies of this nation.

So we think we follow the law. But once again, you got judges second guessing what we're doing. We're not making this up. We're using laws on the books. I think we'll eventually win it.

But until then, we're not going to stop arresting these alien enemies. And we have to hold them in attention. That's what we'll do while we're waiting on what can we do about deportation. But we'll have to put them in tight late deportation. We'll have to do extradited removals.

So we're going to do everything we can to keep arresting them and keep removing them, even though alien and in fact removal plates are put on hold. We're going to use every tool in the toolbox to keep removing public safety threats every day from this country.

So Tom, so for example, if you get a guy from MS-13, you know he's from MS-13, you're sitting there in a jumpsuit, and you've got to send him back to El Salvador.

Now what is the process? Because you could still put him in, you could give him his hearing, can't you, if you wanted? I mean, you can't possibly get 8 million people hearings, but can you give him expedited removal, which could be on Zoom, they were telling me? It could be anywhere. Yeah, you can do expedited removal.

You can do voluntary departure. A lot of these MS313 members in this country already have a final order.

So we can remove them to a normal Title A ice flight.

So we're going to do everything we can. One thing I can assure you, they're not going to be walking the streets. They'll be locked up waiting for one of these processes to work themselves out. Either it's the title eight immigration judge, whether it's expedited removal, whether it's a voluntary departure. We're going to take them off the streets and we won't keep getting them out of the country.

But there's three or four different ways we can do it. It's just a slower process. But that's what we've got to do. That's what we're going to do. How did Bill Clinton expedite $350,000 on expedited removal?

What were his rules? Did Congress give him something to do that with? No, and we're doing extra data removers right now. The problem is we don't have the border most extravagant removals are border crossers, right? We have the most secure border in the history of this nation right now.

We don't have those kind of numbers. That's why I keep hearing this I keep getting asked the question. We're removing less people in Biden. No, we're not. ICE interior arrests and removals are much higher in Biden, but with eight-counted border removals.

When you got 8.5 million people, Crossing the border being recent in the country, you got a lot of people to remove, but we're our border security, so we don't count border removals. We don't have border removals.

So we're actually doing a hell of a lot more than by administration did, but there's less extra data removal, so that's usually a That's 90% border cases and we simply don't have those border cases because our border is secure. How what's your reaction to the Supreme Court saying that you can get rid of the people who got special disposition from Haiti, from Venezuela, and I believe Nicaragua? I think it's the right thing to do. Brian, I started doing this job in nineteen eighty four. I've said from a thousand times, temporary protective status has never been temporary in this country.

It's a shame. Temporary protective status that we won't remove you to a specific country because the conditions of that country are inhumane or they're in war or whatever. But the conditions had changed. And every administration's been weak.

Well, let's just give it to them. They've been here a while, and all they got jobs, and let's just keep them here. Even the country conditions are improved, let's just keep them. No, that's a form of amnesty.

So I'm glad that they're following the law. Temporary means temporary. Those conditions of those countries aren't as bad as it used to be. They need to go home. They entered the country illegally.

They're protected from being deported because the conditions of the country are bad. The conditions of those countries have improved. Time to go home.

So Could Congress be helping you more? I mean, couldn't they pass some of these immigration laws to modernize them so you don't have to go back to 1794? Yes, it can. They could do three things in Congress that will solve 85% of the problem on the border. They can change the asylum rules that your first interview for asylum, that threshold needs to be the same level of judicial review.

That will stop the asylum fraud. Number two, that the Trafficking and Victims Protection Act, children from all over the world that enter this country legally need to be treated just like children from Mexico. Once this asks you, 10, you're not a victim of trafficking. You can be immediately moved to your parents in the country you came from. Third, the Florida settlement agreement.

When families come across, let us hold them in a family residential center long enough to see a judge. Over 90% will lose their case. We'll put them on airplanes, send them home, and the family stopped coming. How do I know that?

So we did that during the Obama administration, and it worked. Those three changes would solve 85% of the problem on the border. That way, the next president can't come in and undo everything we're doing right now to executive orders and destroy our border like Biden did when we took over from Trump 1945. Congress can make these fixes permanent. I've been up on the hill constantly.

I hope they do it. But first of all, give me the money to continue doing what we're doing. We're doing great things. We need to finish this job. This administration may be the first administration in the history of this nation who actually have total operational control of our southern border.

Let us finish this job and let ICE finish their job. They got to arrest three times more people every day than they're doing right now. We need money. We need beds. We need airplanes.

We need aid. Is that in the bill? Contracts. Is that in the big, beautiful bill? Yes, if we get the money that's in the current bill right now, we can get this done.

That's why I'm up on the hill a lot. Pass this big, beautiful bill and watch what we do. Watch how secure this country is and watch how many criminal aliens and public safety threat and national security threats aliens ICE can remove if they have the resources to do it.

Well, if you get that money, the other thing would be: I understand they got to focus on this bill and you got to get everyone on page. I just watched Mike Lawler say he's not going to vote for it yet.

So good luck with that, Mr. President. So he's a Republican from New York.

So, Tom. Afterwards, do you have the word of the speaker that they're going to do those three things or present those three things? They're going to work on it. I'm not going to give up until we get it done. But look, people like Waller, they got to remember the American people voted over one way for President Trump on this issue: immigration, border security, removing public safety threats.

He's been given a mandate, which means members of Congress have been given a mandate. I don't want to see what happened in Trump 45. The first two years under Trump 45, we had the House and the Senate, and then do squat. To support this president, she had to beg and take money for billing the wall from other places. Haven't we learned our lesson?

Let's secure the border. This should be a nonpartisan issue. A secure border saves lives. There's no downside unless fentanyl coming across kill America. There's no downside unless sex trafficking in women and children.

There's no downside unless public safety threats and national security threats entering this country. There's no downside unless people on the terrorist watch this crossing the border. And there's certainly no downside in bankruptcy and criminal cartels now designated terrorists. There's no downside in a secure border. Everybody, especially Republicans, should have no second guess supporting this bill.

I hear you.

Now, two things I have not heard much about. Fentanyl, I hear the numbers are going down. And I've not heard much about the northern border. What could you tell us?

Southern border is down operationally about 96 percent. Northern border is down about 88 percent.

So we made great size in the northern border. Problem is there's less resources, less technology up there. I've been up there. I've met with Canadian officials three times now. We're filling the gaps.

But once again, this bill will give us more money to put more technology and more boots on the ground northern border. They're under staff. We need money to hire more agents. This bill will help address the northern border. Yeah, it's down 88 percent.

It needs to be down 100 percent. It needs to be down 96 percent like the southern border. We need money to do that.

So this is another part of this bill why it's so important. I know it's not really your jurisdiction, but the cartels make the fentanyl from the precursors from China. Have they felt the pressure? Oh, absolutely. Cartels are running scared right now.

We're shutting down their business. They've made record amounts of money the last four years smuggling people, trafficking women and children and moving drugs across the board. When we have the board down, 96% less people are coming. That means every agent's on the line doing its job, which means you're not sneaking them out of fentanyl through like you used to. You're not sneaking women and children for sex trafficking and enforced labor reasons.

Are hurting, we're hurting them where it hurts in the pocketbooks. But Mexico's got to step up and agree with Trump. We can take the cartel cartels out permanently, but it's going to take this United States to do that. Mexico has failed for decades to do it. If you want the cartels to go away and be wiped off the face of the earth, it's going to take American might, American know-how.

I hope Mexico agrees that 'cause Mexico will be a much safer country if we can do it. Thanks to you, Tom, it'll be a much safer country. Tom Holman, back in a moment. More to know. Sponsored by Previgen.

Previgen made for your brain. Nothing could slow down this coming feeding news frenzy. about Biden's cognitive health, other than maybe a report on his actual physical health, which was not good, but now we got ourselves a little problem. Can CNN thread the needle? How do you pivot?

from excitedly promoting your anchor's book. To somberly. And respectfully, Promoting your anchor's book. Adam's health was very much in the news even before the cancer diagnosis was announced on Sunday. That's because of a new book by CNN's Jake Tapper.

This very tough news, this very challenging news. And at the same time, the backdrop of our colleague Jake Tapper's book with Alex Thompson coming out this week. It's so hard. It's such a. A difficult time.

Unfathomable in terms of the pain this family must be feeling. And yet, if you act now, No. And you use the code backslash. Tap that book. You will.

How great is that? I watched that monologue last night, and I just said, guys, this is probably worth it. And he's doing it gently. But it all goes to how the hell can you ignore a story for four years, yell at people for bringing up Biden's health and vacuous behavior in front of the cameras for four years, and then try to make money after he's out of office. He's doing it.

What else can I tell you about? How about this story? Let's swish it: Tom Brady, Logan Paul, to compete against each fans in Fanatic Games.

So you got a bunch of average Joe's and Jane's will get a chance to go head-to-head with the biggest names in sports and entertainment that know how to do this stuff. I'm talking about Tom Brady, Kevin Durant, Cody Rhodes, James Harden, Jaden Daniels, Liv Morgan. They'll be all part of this league. This is a great idea. The showdown will consist of tests in football, basketball, soccer, hockey, WWE, UFC, and golf.

The whole Shebank could be $1 million in prizes. Second and third place, how about a Ferrari? LeBron James's 2004 Tops Chrome Gold Refractor Card. Also up for grabs. It's kind of cool.

I can't believe that hasn't been done already. It's genius.

Next. Trump extends an invitation to Pope Leo for an invitation to come to the White House after J.D. Vance gifted the pontiff a Chicago Bears jersey. That seems kind of odd, but evidently there's a picture of the now Pope. In the stands during the playoff game with Chicago White Sox.

So that is in there. You just see him sitting there like a regular guy in the stands. Who would know the future Pope was watching? Vance, along with Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other world leaders, attended his inauguration. They're getting to know this guy.

Next, Charles Kirschner, confirmed as Ambassador of France. He is, of course, Jerry Kushner's dad, he's a real estate mogul and father-in-law to President Trump. Father-in-law to President Trump's son-in-law. He was confirmed Monday by the Senate to serve as U.S. Ambassador to France.

Good job. He was convicted by Chris Christie. A while ago.

Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer is seeking a vote on blocking Qatar's gift to Trump. They don't want him to have Cutter's plane for free, even though it goes to the Pentagon, Chuck. But he has to show that he has some fights so his party doesn't toss him out. I'm Brian Kilmey. Make sure to go to BrianKilme.com and find out how to see me in Dayton.

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