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So glad you're there. I'm here, and we have so much going on today. It's a lot of moving parts. First off, it's going to be kind of exciting because we will see, I don't know how much longer actually, we're going to be seeing Elon Musk in Capitol Hill, but that's kind of interesting. We're also going to have.

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billionaire takeover in the Trump administration, billionaire. Let's get to the big three. Number three. Rare earth is called rare for a reason. And uh they have a lot, and we made a deal.

And I assume they're going to honor the deal. We haven't really seen the fruits of that deal yet. I suspect we will. Yes, I suspect we will, and it's great news. Ukraine gets a mineral deal and a partnership with America.

Why I think this is the beginning of establishing the protection they deserve. Number two.

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Now, with the reemergence of Kamala to the internal war between Hog, AOC, and Dem leadership, this is a party without a core or a mission. I'll explain. Number The GDP came out down three-tenths of a percent. Does this indicate that we could in fact see a recession this year? That number does not represent what's going on in the economy.

It was a good first quarter despite the weakness we inherited. Trump 101, what the press and the Dem party still don't get about Trump and his team and what we can expect on issues that matter most, tariffs, the economy, and border security. We'll discuss where he's been and where he's heading. But first, I want to talk more about this minerals deal, as well as what I think the failure of the talks with the Russians. Daniel Hoffman joins us now, former CIA station chief, served in Moscow, Iraq, Pakistan, South Asia, Europe, and a Fox News contributor.

Daniel, your thoughts. What should we know about this rare earth deal? We know that it's going to be a partnership. They're going to use a lot of our equipment and our technology. And there's a lot of unknown metals in the ground.

But more importantly, we'll be on the ground. Yeah, so they're reportedly twenty of the of the fifty critical minerals are there, including titanium, which is used to build missiles and airplanes and ships, and lithium, which we know is used to build batteries. This was a deal that President Zelensky actually first discussed back in in twenty twenty four, in the summer of twenty twenty four, And when he became president, President Trump decided to pursue it. It looks like it's good to go. It just needs to be ratified by the Ukrainian Parliament.

And as you point out rightly, I agree. It's good news for the United States. We've got skin in the game now in Ukraine, this commercial partnership that we have. It's not going to be easy. It's not like dipping your shovel into the ground and digging stuff up.

There's going to be a lot of capital expenditure to excavate the rare earth minerals, but that's a great business project on which to work for the United States and Ukraine.

So just to give you an idea, I mean, we have great reporters and they have great access to the White House.

So listen to the exchange here as President Trump talked about it and right next to the Secretary of Treasury, Cut thirty three. Is it true that the Ukraine minerals deal is about to be signed in the next 24 hours or so? There's some reports saying that. And if it's true, has the deal changed at all from the last time we heard about it?

Well, I'll ask Scott to answer the question because he's responsible for it. Yeah, our side's ready to sign. The Ukrainians decided last night to make some last-minute changes. We're sure that they will reconsider that. And we are ready to sign this afternoon if they are.

Can you talk about those last-minute changes, what was removed or put in its place? Nothing's been removed. It's the same agreement that we agreed to on the weekend. No changes on our side. What happened is I guess they wanted some changes on their side.

So, in other words, it's on you know, this is stuff that needs to be mined. We'll get it out, we'll work with them. They're very they're they're a capitalistic society, as imperfect as their democracy is.

So I walk away over the last three weeks and hearing about all these meetings with Moscow and Steve Witkoff. And I think Russia has dug in more ever since Woodkoff got involved. I can't see any change in their behavior, except they're more aggressive. That's right, Brian. And they've never veered away from their strategic objective to overthrow the government of Ukraine, the only thing that will stop them from doing that is when we make it clear that, that just isn't possible any longer.

And I think they have carried on with these discussions with the Special Envoy. Look, Special Envoy Witkoff was sent to Moscow by the President to try to strike a deal to entice Putin to the negotiating table. And Putin has continued to rain down hell on Ukraine's infrastructure and their civilians, and absolutely has shown no interest in a ceasefire. His three-day ceasefire that he's Put into effect is just because he doesn't control his own airspace and is concerned that Ukraine will have. The capability and to blow things up and disparage Putin's Victory Day parade coming up next week.

So that was the motivation behind that brief ceasefire that he is. that he's going to put into effect.

So, a couple of things. This is what I've read. You know better. You never walk into a meeting with Vladimir Putin alone, even if you're Henry Kissinger. Let alone not at the very least your own interpreter.

We're using the Russian interpreter, and we're sending Steve Witkoff, who obviously has got a lot of talent. Because he wouldn't have had the success he's had in real estate up until now. And confidence. But come on, don't on what planet do we think he's going to walk away with a good deal? Look, his formative experience in life isn't this.

It is, it's real estate. And good for him, he is smart, but. The idea that you could go to Russia and deal with the KGB guy in the Kremlin without ever having. learned Russian yourself or spent years becoming an expert on Russia and the region. I mean, that just That makes it extraordinarily difficult.

It would be like. Brian, like me jumping into the real estate market away from my own expertise at CIA and trying to do big real estate deals, I couldn't do that. I wouldn't even try. I certainly wouldn't want to risk my own money doing it. The fact that Special Envoy Witkoff isn't bringing with him a Russia expert, and I'm not volunteering for this because I like being home with my children, but there's plenty of them out there.

People who have served in Russia, diplomats, retired CIA officers, why not? Who speaks Russian and can interpret what's going on and be a good consolieri, I think that would have been a smart move. And I think the fact that the special envoy didn't do that, and I I know he's had the opportunity to bring people in as special government employees with that sort of expertise. The fact that he hasn't done that or even been accompanied by General Kellogg, who would have been a very good conciliary to him, who knows a thing or two about fighting wars, that leaves him Really wide open to not understanding fully what's going on around him. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to him, it's just that it's a complicated issue and.

One that requires a lot of substantive expertise that I'm sorry he doesn't have. You don't have to be sorry. I don't, I mean, just like I said, I mean, there's just, there's no, I'm not. Giving my opinion. It's a fact.

Never before. I mean, Henry Kissinger, with all his knowledge, with you know, Condoleezza Rice, a Sovietologist, she would never do that. And she spent her whole life doing this.

Now, Witkoff wants to come in because he could understand deals and could understand closing. But I don't get it. And I think a lot of times people get rotated out. Rubio's got to be the one to go in there. And I know he would and with Waltz, and I know he would go in there fully armed.

But the thing is, Dan, let's just forget about all that. What is the situation on the ground right now? I mean, both sides you know, look, Ukraine is continuing to defend themselves because Russia is. Continuing to mount an onslaught, military onslaught against Ukraine. You've got now.

roughly ten thousand North Korean soldiers who are fighting and reportedly over one hundred Chinese fighters. I wrote a column about that in today's Washington Times. Folks can read about it online later this afternoon. Vladimir Putin wants to stay in the fight. And again, until we show him that there's nothing to be gained by doing that, he's going to keep fighting because his objective is to destroy Ukraine as a state.

And we've stopped him from doing that, but we never enabled Ukraine to punch back hard enough to stop the war. And and look, wars end when somebody loses or both sides are too exhausted to fight or when domestically it becomes untenable because like it did for us in Vietnam, people rise up and protest against the war they don't support.

Well, that's not going to happen in Russia because it's a dictatorship and there's no freedom of speech or assembly or the press.

So you've got to stop Putin. And we haven't done, we didn't do that. The Biden team had three years to do that, and they failed. And that's where we are, why we are where we're at right now. But they've lost 800,000 people or 950,000 people, one of the figures I saw, dead or wounded off the battlefield.

They've put so much money into this. I mean, every day the Ukrainians are out fighting them, correct? Yeah, I mean that's abhorrent to you and me and to the President of the United States of America. Putin doesn't care how much money he spends on this. He doesn't care that he's got an unbalanced wartime economy, that he's on his knees begging China to import his hydrocarbons and begging Iran for drones and North Korea for their soldiers and their artillery.

He doesn't care about how many dead soldiers there are on his side. Certainly doesn't care about how many innocent Ukrainians. kids, he's kidnapped or killed. None of that matters to him. What matters to him is staying on in power in Russia.

And he's at war with democracy. Could never allow Ukraine to have the sort of links, commercial ties to Europe that Ukraine wants. Or to become a functioning democracy. And I'm telling you, Brian, I know people like to criticize President Zelensky or Ukraine. He's democratically elected.

That's a great. contrast to Putin. And Ukraine does have a functioning democracy. It's not perfect, but it's way better than most of the rest of the world. And Putin could never stomach that on his border.

And that's why he launched the war. It's got nothing to do with NATO, which he knows is a defensive alliance designed to deter his own aggression. Look at what the Russians did, the Soviets, when they conquered Eastern Europe, or Prague Spring, hundreds of thousands of troops to crush democracy in Czechoslovakia in 1968. That's in Putin's bloodstream. That's what he does.

And the sooner that our special envoy recognizes that, the better we'll have policy towards Russia. Having said all that, If Vladimir Putin is not, he might be evil, but he's not stupid. He sees an opportunity that Trump's put all this political capital on the line. He's taken a lot of criticism already for not being tougher on Russia in these negotiations. We all know about getting rid of protesting Nord Street done too and the sanctions.

He's about to sanction the central bank, I believe. But does Putin understand that he had actually a rare opportunity with this businessman President that was willing to give him a fresh start, that would actually probably reestablish relations, economic relations that would ultimately boost him? that would allow him to get back on the swift financial system, and that Trump was one of the few American leaders ever that would have bucked the rest of NATO and just done his own thing, much maybe to the detriment of his own political fortunes and his party. Listen, I'm I'm gonna say What I used to say to when I testified on Capitol Hill, much to the chagrin of our elected leaders, sometimes. Vladimir Putin hates us, Brian.

We are Russia's main enemy, Glavny Prativnik. That's what they call us. He doesn't want to do a deal that enhances President Trump's image or stature or gets him a Nobel Peace Prize. He's not interested in that. If he wanted.

economic relations with Europe, he wouldn't have invaded Ukraine in the first place. He's perfectly fine being allied with his other fellow dictatorships like Iran and North Korea and China and swiveling his economy no matter what price they pay for doing that. What you're saying is a rational actor model that would apply to a United States elected politician. I'm sorry it doesn't apply to Putin. And the key to diplomacy and to get back to our special envoy is the capacity to see the world through Vladimir Putin's twisted KGB eyes.

It just isn't, unfortunately, the way we would like it to be. He's a different kind of leader. He's not going to see the world the way we do. I'm telling you, President Trump cares more about Russian people, Russian future, Russian soldiers. than Putin ever will.

And to me, that speaks volumes. But it also means we have to have a realistic foreign policy. And maybe. The special envoy and others, you know, administration, go get George Cannon's memoirs. Famous diplomat.

Kind of a Cassandra in the Roosevelt administration on the Soviet Union. Read them. That's a good description of what we're facing today.

So, so far, we understand Russian officials continue to demand full Ukrainian capitulation on the sole basis of which Russia is willing to accept a peace agreement. Having said that, there's nothing to talk about. But my worry is they will walk away. For example, there's a report out there, not denied, that they want to pay for Patriot missiles. And we have them, and we haven't given it to them.

Why would we not give them defensive missiles that they're paying for? That's right. That's what we need to be doing. And Look, I I'm again sorry to say this. We'd rather the war never have been fought.

We'd rather it doesn't. that we could stop we wish we could stop it today. That's just not realistic. What's done is done from three years ago, three almost four years ago soon. We can't change any of that.

What we can do is arm Ukraine so that they stay Safe and secure and independent, that we don't reward Vladimir Putin's aggression against Ukraine, and that we get this good mineral deal off the ground and we're able to build this economic, profitable economic relationship with Ukraine. And they're right, Brian. If we could sell Patriot missiles to Ukraine, my goodness, that's like a win-win for us. I would think so. Cut the Russian army down to size, stop Putin's aggression at the point of attack.

And we are able to secure our investment in Ukraine. Good for us. Dan, the thing I'm walking away with, they hate us and stop acting any differently. Daniel Hoffman, thanks so much. Yeah, thank you, Brian.

That's the CI CIA conclusion. When we come back, your thoughts, then Mark Thiessen, a brilliant column on all this and more. Don't move. It's Brian Kill Mead. Uh This episode is brought to you by LifeLock.

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But yeah, I think that's people made a big deal of that. If it was negative, I thought it was great. Because he's not budging, guys. I don't know what you're talking about.

Some people are out there, and I watch other channels, and you do too. And you see these people saying things like he's got to go. In terms of the actual doing the job, there's really no drama. The only issue was a signal issue, which really he was put on, and number two is the staffing. Maybe you picked the wrong people.

I'm not sure. I've been listening to some of the podcasts to try to get a better perspective, but. I know a lot of times when people start off in the first few months in a brand new job and they don't have the right people around them, then they get them and they flourish. And the thing is, fundamentally, he knows about the armed forces, he knows about the budgets, he understands weaponry, he understands the mindset of the soldier. And I thought that Admiral McCraven told me something pretty cool last week.

He said, when Leon Panetta was named Secretary of Defense, we realized quickly he knew nothing about defense. But what he knew about was bureaucracy and budgeting and motivation.

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So, a strong Ukraine post-this conflict will help Ukrainians maintain their national security. In terms of the deal, Maria, this is a total economic partnership. This isn't just rare earth, it's infrastructure, it's energy.

So, you know, there's the opportunity here for both sides to really win.

So um That is the Secretary of Treasury talking about this minerals deal that was finally consummated yesterday. And one of the great columns was Mark Thiessen's column that is in the Washington Post that came out immediately after. He was all over this deal. He's a fellow at AEI. He's also a host of his own podcast, What the Hell is Going On, and Fox News contributor Mark.

But this news you might know already. The Trump administration told Congress it intends to give the go-ahead for roughly 50 million of defense-related products to be exported to Ukraine through American industry sales direct to Kyiv. They inked a long way to deal, as you know, generating the sale of the minerals. They do want to pay for patriots, and maybe that's the deal. Mark, your thought about what I just told you and the deal that's now done.

Yeah, uh Russia has lost the war. I mean, it's just that simple. First of all, the minerals deal is even more important than the peace deal because what it means is that the United States is invested, literally, not figuratively, invested in a free and sovereign Ukraine. Unless Ukraine survives as a free and independent country, we get no money. We get no minerals.

We get nothing. The only way that this deal, that the American people get the billions of dollars out of this deal that Trump wants to secure is if Ukraine is a free country.

So, you know, because think about this. We're trying to make back the money that we gave Ukraine. Ukraine we've given him over $187 billion in weapons and other support. And so we want to make that money back. Putin, if he takes over the country, is not going to pay us back for the weapons we gave the Ukrainians to fight Russia.

The only way we get that money back through this deal is if Ukraine is independent.

So and the only way we can get that money back is if we if we stop Putin from attacking. because you need to dig, you need to have American businesses go in there.

So we this is this is a huge deal. And now the second piece of it, as you said, is now we're starting to sell arms to Ukraine, which is great because we're transitioning Ukraine From a aid recipient to an economic partner and a defense consumer.

So they're becoming, instead of a country that's under attack and we're disparately giving them assistance, they're now doing what like Poland does and Romania does and all the other Eastern European NATO allies. They're buying weapons from the United States.

So where taxpayers aren't on the hook. And we're giving them the weapons they need to protect themselves, and that's creating jobs in America. When we sell weapons, you know, Trump wants to bring a manufacturing job. There's no better manufacturing job than defense manufacturing jobs.

So, this is great for the United States, it's great for Ukraine, it's great for the freedom of the world. No doubt. And you know who was not against it? And anytime a Democrat's not against something, I think it's worthy to bring up: Senator Tim Kaine, cut 36. I need to see the details.

I can see some virtue to a deal that could potentially be the source for funding Ukrainian reconstruction. I've always thought a mineral deal that could be a source for funding Ukrainian reconstruction post-ceasefire could be smart, but I want to see the details. Does having the U.S. at least invested in Ukraine to a certain extent, does that deter Russia? I th well, it it it it guarantees that America I think it increases the odds that America will want this to work out in a way that's positive for Ukraine.

So, not that sees it as a positive. Remember, Donald Trump, the candidate, said, Why do we go into Iraq, help them out, and then not take a portion of their oil? And I'm getting, I was one of the people who said, What are you kidding me? That's not why we did it. But if Iraq was standing on its own two feet and they wanted to take 10% of their oil sales and begin to pay us and the families that lost their lives getting rid of Saddam Hussein, I think that's a positive.

That would even help Iraq. Yeah, so I mean, and it's a very similar situation in Ukraine.

So, Donald Trump thinks Donald Trump was against the war in Iraq, but he said if we're going to go in and we made all these sacrifices, we should get something out of it, right? We should get some economic benefit for the American people. It's the same thing in Ukraine. Trump says, look, and I think he's right, this war would have never happened if he was president. It should have never happened.

It was because of American weakness that Putin felt he's emboldened to invade. And so we gave them a lot in order to help stop that from happening. Why shouldn't we get something back out of it? Why shouldn't America get repaid for the weapons and all the support that we gave the Ukrainians? And I think what's great about it is that we're, you know, these all these minerals right now, we're not taking anything away from Ukraine.

These minerals are only valuable in concept right now. Until you get the earth diggers in there to dig them out, and until you build the infrastructure that they're talking about, unless you dig up the hydrocarbons that they're talking about, they have no value. Once we bring them out of the ground, we split at 50-50, U.S. investment goes in. And Ukraine makes money.

The Ukrainian people are better off. The American people are better off. And it creates stability over there.

So I think this is a win-win for Ukraine and the United States. And Trump's 100% right. And can I say that I believe you had one of the leading voices on this, and that people really listened to you, important people. And I think people should know that out there.

Well, you're very kind to say that, but Ronald Reagan had a sign on his desk that says it's amazing what you could accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit. The credit for this goes to Donald Trump, because Donald Trump, you know, to the extent that I made any arguments, I was appealing to what he already believed and framing it in a way that made sense to him. And he's the one who said long before I suggested anything on a minerals deal that we should have gotten something out of Iraq, and it's exactly right. This is great for both countries. And I'm just incredibly proud of him for doing this.

So I got to bring you to where the talks are now. with Russia. Every time we go in to talk, their lines they get cockier and more and they have more of a hard line attitude. Uh I believe Steve Woodkoff is working this whole thing in reverse. Unintentionally, I don't think you should ever go into a meeting without Russian speak your own team and your own translator.

I don't know what he is. Why is he leading this charge? Why is he doing the Iranian talks? Why is he also speaking with Hama? I mean, what's going on here?

Well, first of all, these are three full-time jobs.

So, you know, pick one, number one. You can't be leading the talks with Russia, leading the talks with Iran, leading the talks with Hamas, if there should even be talks with Hamas.

So, you know, that's number one. But here's the thing: I think that Trump needs to, I think Trump understands, and I hope he understands, that we are at a point both with Russia and with Iran. We you know, we talk about maximum pressure. We have maximum leverage right now. With Iran, they've been completely in the weakest position they've ever been in the history since the 1979 revolution.

Trump is absolutely destroying their Houthi allies. Israel has decimated Hamas, has decimated Hezbollah. They've lost their only Arab ally in Assad. Because they made the tactical mistake of attacking Israel, Israel was able to turn around and take out all their ballistic missiles and all their air defenses. They're strategically naked.

They have no capability to retaliate either directly or through proxies because their proxies are destroyed. They're lying there strategically naked. And the answer should be. Either you give up your weapons peacefully the way Libya gave up their weapons, which means a U. S.

plane arrives in Tehran and loads up all of the centrifuges, all of the fissile material, and we verify that we've got all of it and we take it to Oak Ridge, Tennessee, like we did with the Libyan nuclear program, or we take it out militarily. Those are the only two choices you have.

So we need to realize that we've got all the leverage, they've got nothing. And with Russia, you know, Russia right now is losing, they're so weak. they're going to run out of tanks next year if they were to keep go if keep going the way they're going because they're los they were losing two hundred tank barrels a month and they can only produce twenty.

So they're literally on track to run out of tanks by next year.

So you know what they're doing, Brian? They're using golf carts. I'm not joking. I s I I literally you can look at the pictures on on the internet. They've got they're they're using golf carts.

They're using ladders. They're using motorcycles. They've got no they've got they've got no armor left. And their economy, they're spending 41% of their budget this year on the war. They've spent a quarter of their liquid cash reserves.

from their sovereign wealth fund. Inflation is at double digits. People are literally going into stores and stealing bread to sell it on the black market. They're holdups in stores for eggs. And meat.

I mean, this country cannot sustain what it's doing right now. And they haven't been able to make last year, you know how much territory they got? They got the equivalent of about 1400 square miles, which is about 15% of the country of Haiti. You know how many casualties they had? Four oh almost four hundred and fifty thousand.

To get 1,400 square miles and not one major city or settlement. It's all empty fields and small settlements. They're losing. They have no leverage.

So we got to take a hard line with them and say: look, either you come to the table. and you and you and you negotiate peace Or we're gonna uh we're gonna we're gonna arm the hell out of Ukraine and we're gonna force you to the table. That's what I think. That comma arm the hell out of Ukraine. I don't think this administration is in on.

And I was just there Monday, and it's going to take some massaging. But I think the Russians are doing such a good job at going out of their way to inadvertently or advertisely embarrass this president for taking political incoming from his own side and from Democrats, for giving them a fresh chance to fix this huge mistake. I just wonder, unless we get to that point. Although Zelensky seems to be doing all the right things now. I want to, if I can, jog over to Iran and the Houthis.

Secretary of Defense. Haig says, put this up on X. We see you to a message to Iran. We see your lethal support to the Houthis. We know exactly what you were doing.

You know very well what the U.S. military is capable of. And you were warned. You will pay the consequences at the time and place of our choosing. And Secretary of Defense Haig said, according to Jennifer Griffin, it's extremely unusual.

Donald Trump, same time, puts out nobody's fooled. The hundreds of attacks being made by Houthis, the sinister mobster thugs in Yemen, who are hated by the Yemeni people, will emanate from and are created by Iran. Any further attack or retaliation by the Houthis will be met with great force, and there's no guarantee that force will stop there. Iran has played the innocent victim of rogue terrorists from which they lost control, but they have not lost control. They're dictating every move, giving them the weapons, supplying them with money, highly sophisticated military equipment, even so-called intelligence.

Every shot fired by the Houthis will be looked upon from this point forward as being shot fired from the leadership of Iran. Yeah. Yeah, that was actually a but that was actually a few weeks ago, but this is what Pete is building off of. What are your thoughts on that? Because we've hit them sit consistently since March 15th.

So, this should be deja vu all over again for the Iranians because right before we took out Qasim Soleimani, Trump warned the Iranians that if you kill a single American, we will consider, you're not going to let you hide behind your proxies anymore. Anyone that is any American that is harmed by an Iranian proxy, we will hold the Iranian regime responsible. And when they crossed his red line, he took out Soleimani.

So he's delayed the red line. We are not letting you hide behind your proxies. This is what the Biden administration allowed them to do. And so, yeah, I would be very worried if I was Tehran because they have no capability to retaliate against the pressure. For a certain point, this is a window.

This is a window. That's exactly right. That'll close. They're going to rebuild their air defenses. They're going to rebuild their missiles.

But now we've got the window to act. Um and so we need to we need to you know it's gotta he he gave him a deadline and he's gotta stick to the deadline. Absolutely. Thanks so much. Mark Thiessen, read his column in the Washington Post today, and we'll see what happens next.

Appreciate it, Mark. Take care. Always great. 1866-408-7669. A lot going on.

And, you know, the president, they look at the polls, they say, when it comes to foreign policy, is it 42%? Yeah, because he's tackling the four biggest problems he's been left at the same time while putting together a team to begin to engage North Korea. At the same time, taking our number one economic and military foe, China. All right?

So when you have all these things in the air. You can't tie them up all at once, but you have to just follow the timelines on all of them. And tell me if you think there's a better strategy. Number one, I just hope he rethinks putting Steve Woodcoff first. I just don't think he should be doing it.

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Meanwhile, you weren't head coach or assistant coach. You didn't go to war, you went to Italy. When your unit went to war, you didn't go. You stayed back. Whatever decision that is.

I appreciate service. But that wasn't true. That's why they ended up keeping you back. And the whole thing was, you were a football coach for a couple of years. No one even remembers you.

And then you did one ad where you pretended to fix a car? That's why you picked him because you could code talk to white people? Good luck to that. This guy's unbelievable. He's not self aware of how he's being perceived.

But here's what's going on really in that party. First off, Hakeem Jeffries came out behind the scenes and said, stop visiting Kilmore Albergo Garcia in El Salvador, it's not working. Why? Yesterday we found out about another domestic abuse claim by I hope for her sake, his ex-wife, but his current wife, where she was so scared she had to say that nothing could be done to him. She called her ex-mother-in-law worried for her kids because I guess indicating that he's in a gang.

So this guy is human trafficker, white feeder, hanging out with MS-13, and is concerned about other gangs. Why would that be? Because you happen to be in a gang and that's who they're going to visit.

So he's trying to calm everything down. That's one fracture. The other thing is, Chuck Schumer is not popular. He's the only one who doesn't seem to care. Cut 24.

There's a poll out today that has your approval ratings lower than any other congressional leader at 17%. Are you concerned that he may be a liability for your party? Polls come and go. Our party is united. We're on our front foot.

We're stepping forward, going after Trump, and having real success. They are not united. AOC has become the rock star, but nobody wants a socialist to lead. She wants to be the ranking member on the oversight committee. Congressman Connolly's got cancer.

Sadly, he's got to retire. She tried to get that job. He got more votes even at 75 years old.

Now she's trying for it again. Congressman Aguiar and others are making sure she doesn't get it. Does that sound like a party's united? The person who gets the biggest crowds has got such niche views and extreme views that if she represents the party, it's going to go down in flames and not get elected anything? Ever So she's basically with $9 million in the bank as the most powerful Democrat.

Everybody else is stepping aside and the people in power aren't popular. They're together? Please. They're also trying to get rid of David Hogg. He got elected legitimately by the other Democrats as the number two.

They're together, please. And the guys saying it, they want out. Right. They are very united. Your gut affects everything, even your mood.

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Brian Kilmeat show getting set for One Nation. I want to talk to Sean Duffy, it looks like this weekend. He's all over New York, by the way. He's trying to fix Penn Station. He's trying to get those cameras off the streets so they stop charging us $9 to drive through the heart of a city.

If you think it's only going to stay in New York, it'll travel, believe me. And you think it's going to stay $9? It's going to go rocketing up. That's $3,000 a year. It's going to cost a fireman, a teacher, a worker, people, billionaires in Wall Street downtown.

They're not going to feel it. They'll probably write it off at work. But they don't understand. But he's here and he's also talking about the crime in this city. And they're trying to force everyone into the subway where crime is booming.

So kind of an odd combination. He's going to be with us. That is Sunday at 10 o'clock. Julian Epstein is going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour. He is part of what that's one of the stories that he's doing as one of our big three today.

Happening today, President Trump will deliver a commencement address at the University of Alabama with Nick Sabin as his guardian.

So you think that's not going to be popular today? I had William Casey at mine. He was the CIA director at the time, great American. Stephen Miller and Caroline Levitt just had a fantastic press conference, lasted about an hour.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. Rare earth is called rare for a reason. And they have a lot, and we made a deal, and I assume they're going to honor the deal. We haven't really seen the fruits of that deal yet.

I suspect we will. I'll bring you some of the details, but it's historic. Ukraine gets a mineral deal and a partnership with America. Why I think this is the beginning of establishing the protection they deserve. Number two.

So in the video for those who haven't seen it Here those elephants were. And as soon as they felt the earth shaking beneath their feet, They got in a circle. and stood next to each other. to protect the most vulnerable. Yes, I missed her.

I'm lying. I haven't. Simply thrashing. From the re-emergence of Kamala to the internal war between Hog and AOC and Dem leadership, this is a party without a core or a mission. I'll explain.

The GDP came out down three-tenths of a percent. Does this indicate that we could in fact see a recession this year? That number does not represent what's going on in the economy. It was a good first quarter despite the weakness we inherited. There you go.

That is Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary. Trump 101, or day 101. What the press and the Democratic Party still don't get about Trump and his team and what we can expect on issues that matter most: tariffs, economy, border security. We discuss where he's been and where he's heading. Where he's been is just doing about everything at one time: over 100 executive orders, countless injunctions to stop a lot of those executive orders.

Constantly in motion, a cabinet that truly feels like they're on a mission. What I think is underappreciated. When you see cabinet meetings like this, I think it's his third one on camera with questions from the media, all there, with the president in the middle. Is the synergy they're building with each other? When it comes to regulation, for example, with interior, with the EPA, with energy.

You don't want a deputy secretary, deputy secretary talking to another deputy secretary or an underling, a chief of staff, when you could just pick it up and go, hey, Lee. I have a problem here. Hey, this is Doug. I'm on the other line. Yeah, Interior Secretary.

Let's get this done. Can we do it right now? Let's just put out a memorandum. My two, I'll have my assistant do it. Boom, they're done.

If you have synergy and you understand what people are in the shorthand, we're friends looking out for each other. I think it really creates A smooth running operation. As smooth as possible. I also think it's amazing to me that, yeah, you could talk about how the tariffs have created uncertainty. Absolutely.

You could talk about that the deals haven't been done yet and say that it would be much, much more beneficial for them to be done with India, South Korea, and Japan. Absolutely. But can you at least bring up the fact that RFK Jr. is attacking what's in our foods, what's sold to our kids, school lunchrooms, looking at long-term illnesses that have this huge, that are on the rise like autism? Do you see what he's trying to do?

Can't you write a positive story about that or a story on a story that'll end up being positive? Can you write said the border has never been more secure? I can't believe what's been done. But you don't like his immigration policy, fine. But you love his border security.

Can you at least write some of those stories? But ABC sits down with the president. He goes, Yeah, the border secure, right. But the Supreme Court says you should have brought back Kilmore. And they go back and forth about tattoos.

And the pace and cadence and and disrespect they have for Trump. When they sit down with them, they When you could always ask a tough question, but you don't have to be disrespectful. And you can still get up in a fight with him, but I mean, the dismissiveness and the attitude that ABC has.

Now, you can forget this other guy. Don't talk to him again. It doesn't benefit you. You're not winning anyone over. You're not explaining anything.

They're there just to find something that makes you look. that you're contradicting yourself. But the big story right now is the economy. Yesterday, the numbers came out and it said growth at minus 3%, as opposed to where it was, I think, growth at 2.4%. A lot of it had to do with the huge influx of goods because people wanted to buy quickly in order to avoid the tariffs.

Here's Jamison Greer, the U.S. trade rep, talking to Brett last night. about the pressure on his office To come in with a big deal. But the big story is China cut six. Not official talks yet, right?

Not yet. Not yet. I did speak with my counterpart before April 2nd for a long time, over an hour. It was a virtual meeting, but I thought it was constructive. This is not a plan just to encircle China.

It's a plan to fix the American economy, to have a greater share of manufacturing as GDP, to have real wages go up, to be producing things instead of having an economy that's financed by the government. We want to make real stuff and sell it. And it means we have to deal with foreign trade practices that are harmful, including in China. Yeah, and then I just think you need a template to start knocking this stuff out.

So. I think that the vice president left what I thought was basically a deal with India, which we really need to be able to get our cars in there, number one, number two, to lower the tariffs. I think they're at forty percent. And then, of course, entice some electronics and some of some AI to come back here and maybe work with them there. Here's Jameson Greer on Uh are other deals coming, cutting.

How about I throw out a country you say whether you're close? India? Yes. Finish line close? I wouldn't say finish line close, but I have a standing call with India's trade minister.

I sent my team to India for a week. They were here last week and I met with their chief negotiator. The Vice President was there. He was there and he announced a terms of reference with India, a framework for a broader trade agreement with India. Exactly right.

South Korea?

South Korea, they've been very forward-leaning. We're going to see them again pretty soon. They've provided offers. We've given feedback. I think we're, again, we're out sometime with Korea, but they are going in the right direction.

Wow, I thought India, I did not, that's the first time I heard that. India is still back and forth like that, and still no deal. I thought it would be simpler than this. Because you're not talking about a trilateral agreement. You know, the USMCA took two years.

So I guess it's somewhat complicated, but guys, pick up the pace. because the market is ready to respond. Just give them a reason. It looks like the farmers are going to need to be supplemented too at the same time, by Memorial Day, which is coming up. It's not at the end of the month, it's the week before the end of the month.

So they want to get something done. But a lot of people on the right are upset. They feel there's too much spending in the bill right now when you've got to be cutting. But the president does have a lot of cuts when you have to talk about no tax on Social Security, no tax on tips, by looking at being the ability for the Northeastern states to be able to, the high-tax states to be able to write off their state taxes. That's called the SALT tax.

They don't want to budge on that. And Senator Ron Johnson also thinks that he's got a simple approach. Can we just go back to way, way, way, back to 2019, Cut 12?

Well I'm getting highly concerned. Unfortunately we have big spenders in our party as well. And let's face it, the American public is not exactly clamoring for fiscal conservatism. Everybody likes the free federal money. They don't realize that this massive deaths of spending is why their dollar has devalued dramatically over the decades.

So from my standpoint, the root cause of our problems literally is the size, scope and cost of government. We need to reduce that. I'm not interested in raising more revenue to fund government. I'm interested in concentrating on returning to a reasonable pre-pandemic level of spending. We spent $4.4 trillion in 2019 prior to the pandemic.

Then we went on a massive spending spree, borrowed trillions of dollars. That's what devalued our currency. That's what sparked 40-year high inflation. We never stopped spending. We never stopped borrowing.

If he said if we just go back to the spending levels of four point five trillion of twenty nineteen, we'd be almost ready to have balanced budget because of the increased income just from the past tax reform from twenty eighteen.

So let's talk about the Democrats if we can. David Hogg, Facing challenges to the DNC role. Even though he was legitimately elected as the deputy, there's the North American attorney, this North American Native American attorney, is challenging Hogg's vice chair position for the DNC. They call it an intra-party tension ignited by David Hogg, basically saying, I'm going to use some of my $20 million investment fund, my political action group, to primary other incumbent Democrats who he doesn't like. He says this, we are confident that the DNC officer election was conducted fairly, transparently, and in alignment with the rules.

But in advance of the election, but the party provides an opportunity for any candidate or member to raise concerns or further a discussion.

So, there's a guy rising up to challenge him immediately.

Meanwhile, there's other people on the extreme left, like the squad led by AOC, who's weighing a bid once again to become the ranking member of the oversight committee. Why? Because sadly, Jerry Connolly's got cancer. I'm back again, serious. He's going to be stepping out.

Stephen Lynch steps in of Massachusetts. He's more of a traditional Democrat. Of course, lefty, but traditional Democrat. AOC is like, no, no, I think I want to do it. I got $9 million in the bank to get it.

Wow. Good luck with that. I hope you two work it out. Cut nineteen. This moment is about what each and every single one of us can do and us asking ourselves as individuals, are we doing everything that we can?

Am I doing everything that I can? Is so-and-so doing it? And I think that for me, I'm just trying to do everything that I can and I know that there are, and I feel very lucky that there are also other Democrats that are stepping up to the moment as well. And I don't think of this as... a movement or a moment of one leader, I think that this is a moment that calls for a lot of leaders.

And so to me, I feel like it's the more, the merrier. Hmm. She wanted to be her. I don't think I think that still the establishment That's now more in the background, Nancy Pelosi, James Clyburn. She's uncontrollable.

They don't want her in leadership. And once she gets into leadership, she's good for the camera. They feel like she'll be out of control and be in charge of the party. You guys work it out. I'm going to take a timeout and come back.

I'll expand on that with Julian Epstein next, but I also want to talk about the latest with Kilmar Albergo-Garcia and with this Columbia University and the poison ivy that we're seeing, the problems at Harvard, the problems at Columbia. I mean, they're evident, and I love that Trump's attacking it. What about you? 1-866-408-7669. Politics, current events, and news that affects you.

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Why are we giving student visas to people who are coming here to create disruption? And we've taken away the student visas of people that are coming here to do that. It's simple. If you're coming to America, to to start riots, we're not gonna give you, we're gonna take away your student visa.

So that is Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and he is 100% right. And I can't give you the breakdown on the law when it comes to student visas, when it comes to the green cards and immigration law, but we know these two knuckleheads from overseas Uh who have been detained. I'm talking about at Columbia, one has been allowed out of detainment, ICE detainment, because they said he's not a threat to leave and he's not a threat to others. But he's let out and he comes out and he threatens President Trump. I'm not afraid of you.

You should be afraid. You're running a Palestinian organization organized against Jews in our country and Israel overseas. Why are you here doing that? Just read a book, go to class, go to extra help. Nobody wants to see an activist outside an Ivy League school that maybe some American would prefer to fill that slot.

So now we see another example of pushback through the courts, which I don't see why they have any role in when the Secretary of State decides that you're in a student visa and you're abusing it, you should go. And I love the message that others are going to get around the country. Man, we we better watch out 'cause they'll toss us out of this college. Listen to this idiot, Moshan Malwaddy. He's the one who led all the encampments along with Mahmoud Khalil.

Cut forty three. We must stand up for humanity because the rest of the world, not only Palestine, is watching us and what is going to happen in America is going to affect the rest of the world. It sends a message that is loud and clear. not only to the Vermonters, but to the rest of America. And the message is, we the people will hold the Constitution accountable for the principles and values that we believe in.

This idiot gets out of detention and gives a speech.

Meanwhile That's what he these are the people that got to follow him. Do you think that Columbia wants him back on campus? I mean unless they're really oblivious to the backlash they're receiving. You know, I was talking to somebody yesterday, a friend of mine. And they asked me, I said, your daughter is going to law school.

Where's she going? He goes, Ugh. Oh, that's the thing. I go, What do you mean? Where's she going?

Does she not get in? And I thought maybe she didn't do good on the test, didn't get any acceptances, got waitlisted. And he says, uh Harvard. But just like that. But I think she'll be okay.

Well, the kid's Jewish? He's going to Harvard. If you normally, when you talk to somebody, if their kid is even waitlisted at an Ivy League institution, unless you're a legacy. At least the people I hang out with. That becomes special.

Man, you even thought you had the grades to get into Harvard, Columbia, or one of these schools? No, embarrass Harvard. I think she'll be okay. I think she'll be okay. Well, the problem is, too, when you get out.

Not if you're Jewish, but if you get out, people are gonna be like, look, I wonder if that person went to Harvard. I wonder if they were indoctrinated before or after they got in. I wonder if they were able to push back. Or, I'm so angry about what I saw on those campuses. You can keep that resume, not interested, it's not going to get open.

That's what Trump did by highlighting this. Anti-American attitude, anti-West attitude. And if you talk to people really learned in the area, They will tell you, yeah, they might have a problem with Israel, but they really have a problem with the West. You look at what's going on now and you see the debate with Joe Rogan and Dave Smith, a smart guy comedian, just the ultra, you know, ultra doesn't believe anything that anyone says and Israel really has no right to go in hard against Hamas and Hamas goes into decides to fight from hospitals and mosques and schools and when Israel hits back they go, how can you be so cruel? And it's not my problem.

Well, it's in response to what they did.

Well, that doesn't make it right.

Well, it does make it right. If you go and put, you know, chop the heads off babies and you murder pregnant women and you rape them first, and then you go into and wipe out a bunch of people who are at uh partying late at a concert uh in cold blood, And you don't expect a military response while you shoot at the IDF from hospitals and buildings? Forget it. And to get hostages back, you got to give up prisoners. Why don't you just give up thousands of prisoners to get a handful of hostages back?

It's an impossible decision, but to be critical of the people that were attacked to me is insanity. A lot of people say they're Republicans. That's a new attitude of Republicans.

Well, count me out. Israel has every right to go in for complete victory. And they're also giving warnings to everybody to innocence before they go in, dropping flyers, knocking at building doors before they take it out. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

So, in the video, for those who haven't seen it. Here those elephants were. And as soon as they felt the earth shaking beneath their feet, They got in a circle. and stood next to each other. to protect the most vulnerable.

Think about it. What a powerful metaphor. Because we know. Those who try to incite fear are most effective When they divide and conquer. I mean, it's so painful, and I'm so thankful that she lost.

I mean, that was her comeback speech. I don't mind metaphors. People come up. You know, Trump says crazy stuff on stage that is funny and interesting. Those were ad-libs, but she actually pre-thought that, that elephants come together in a time of crisis.

I don't know. It's called 100 days. You look at it as a crisis. People look at it, other people look at it as a boon. Julian Epstein joined us now, longtime Democrat, lawyer, former director of the House Oversight Committee for Democrats for about five, six years.

So there's no doubt about it. Any Democrats would have met it, Julian, they're looking for direction. And reemerging after a brutal loss is Kamala Harris, her speech yesterday. Is that somebody that. Wants to be is ready to be reinserted in the top spot of her party, the leadership position as she considers running for governor.

Well, I think I agree that it was painful. And listening to Camelot try to be profound. Uh, with these metaphors, it just never works. Um, she was unable to sort of answer simple questions about the economy and how she would differ from Biden, um, and Please. That was that.

I thought the candidacy was somewhat pathetic, but then she sort of tries to substitute. Uh for the lack of substance. In her answers, by going to these profundities that just don't work. The dog doesn't bark. It just so it just comes across as so goofy.

So she is clearly not the answer. I think the Democrats have a bigger problem. right now, which is they are competing to be the angriest Democrat in the room.

So it's all about it's all this constantly hysterical Language about how terrible Trump is, how the end of the world is close, how we have to resist. And it's like They've all become the political equivalent of OnlyFans models in the sense that they just want to get as much attention as they can within a narrow segment of voters, Brian. You're talking about with AOC and sort of the Kamala. Supporters, you're talking about 10, 20% of the voters that they're playing to.

So let me ask you about AOC. Do you know about the House? They say this is a very prestigious position, ranking member on the oversight committee. Jerry Connolly with cancer is retiring. Right now, technically, they have someone else in that position, Stephen Lynch.

She's evidently going to maneuver to try to get that slot again. Does it matter? Or tell everyone at home why it matters.

Well, Brian, I was staff director of that committee for years. I ran that committee as a chief staff, as a staff director for six years. It's a difficult difficult Job. It requires a command of the entire scope of the federal government. You are overseeing every single federal agency.

for fraud, waste and abuse inefficiency. And you've got to be somebody who has mastery of the federal government. If you take If you just take two examples of AOC, there was this. clip that went viral of her on firing line. When she was talking about the subject that you were just talking about, which was the Gaza situation.

And she was asked a simple question about what she feels. And she went on to moralize about it and talk about the occupation and all of that. And the host asked her a simple question, and she wasn't able to answer the question. She had no substantive knowledge about what was going on in the Middle East in any meaningful way. Tom Holman came before that committee, the Government Oversight Committee.

And she questioned she she claimed to him that if somebody comes into the country illegally, they're not creating a crim they're not violating a criminal offence a criminal law. And he pointed out to her that she was exactly wrong. She didn't understand the law. She didn't understand that if you come in illegally, you are violating criminal law. Those two examples show that she is a person that can get up and maybe give a speech and rile a crowd of progressives.

On the far left, but she doesn't seem to have a lot of substance. And so I think. That Yeah. I think she would have a difficult time being the ranking member of that committee. It's a very difficult time.

Is there a fear among Democrats, if you give her a prestigious spot and she's got she's very friendly to the good to the good on camera, that she'll be too big to stop? And is there a sense of the establishment and who might be behind, might be out of leadership but still strong? Pelosi and Clyburn and others. We can't put AOC out there. I don't want her to be the faith the squad member to be the face of the party.

And she's so popular that we won't be able to stop it. Is there a sense inside the Democratic Party about that? 100%. There is a sense that one, she is difficult to control, but two is she is playing to, again, I call this the political equivalent of. Only fans because she is playing to a small segment of voters.

Progressives represent about 10% of the electorate. And she pl they're an active Segment of the electorate. They raise money. They get her a lot of attention. They've got everything.

It's great for her ego. Yeah, but she and she can fill stadiums with Bernie Sanders. But you know, we're in a country of three hundred sixty million people. The fact that you can get several thousand people into a stadium doesn't tell you anything about your broader appeal to the electorate. And she does not have a broad appeal to the electorate.

She is fine in her district in New York. which is a very Deep, deep blue district. But if you try to take what she stands for and sell it around the country in any meaningful way in any kind of national election or as in that committee, if she were to be the ranking member representing the Democratic Party, she is for big government, she's a socialist. She is for growing the government at a time when. All the polls show by 70 or 80% people want to see government reduced.

And she is for cultural leftism on every issue, on gender. On crime, on the border, on race. What did she do after the election, Brian? She changed the gender pronouns on her webpage because she sort of saw that that cultural leftism wasn't, that extreme cultural leftism doesn't suit.

So did Pete Buttigieg, but she has a she has the baggage of that cultural left. hung around her. In a way that it will, you know, in a way that sort of it will never leave her.

So she is the personification of the socialist, the socialist ideology. And that is just not something that smart Democrats know will sell around the country.

So I think all of this talk about her is a little bit of a psyops. You know, her running for president, I think it's a psyops to increase her brand. To increase fundraising, but I think it's real. I think it's she absolutely has the ambition that way. You notice that she doesn't bring up the squad as much either.

They may be her friends, but she doesn't want to be seen publicly with them. That might be her subtle way of going mainstream. The problem is, she's an inch deep, and no one in Queens thinks she's doing a good job. There's just no Republican who has got a shot there. But I want you to hear somebody who I think is making a good move.

I'm not sure what's intentional or not, but you would know better. Governor Whitmer in Michigan asked Donald Trump, says, We got to replace the A-10s with our National Guard needs our A-10 warthogs replaced. And Trump says, I hear you. He looked at the military, says, Yeah, I'll get you some F-16s or F-15s just to give the short course.

Well, they delivered him. He goes to Michigan and stops there first, invites her to go, and she meets him on the tarmac and then appears with him in front of the troops. And then she, I think President Trump says, why don't you say a few words? And again, the optics that Democrats don't want to be seen with Trump or being friendly with Trump. There was a small hug when he landed.

And then this.

Well, I hadn't planned to speak, but on behalf of all the military men and women who serve our country and serve so honorably on behalf of the state of Michigan, I am really damn happy we're here to celebrate this recapitalization at Selfridge. It's crucial for the Michigan economy. It's crucial for the men and women here, for our homeland security, and our future.

So thank you. I'm so, so grateful that. This announcement was made today. And I appreciate all the work. Inside the Democratic Party, how did that resonate?

Well, it it came it comes across as an unnatural act, Brian. The fact that a leading Democrat Wood. Would Be in a photo op with the president and basically endorsing something he's doing in terms of rebuilding the military. That is not. That is not the thinking on the Democratic side.

The thinking on the Democratic side now is to be the angriest Democrat in the room and to protest, protest, protest, resist, resist, resist.

So this was. This was an outlier. But I think it's very illustrative for the Democrats in terms of where they ought to be. Rather than sort of just I'm against everything, I'm against everything, I'm against everything, which is the message they're sending, which is why they are in the In the tank in terms of approval numbers, in the 20s, the congressional Democrats. They ought to be trying to compete with Trump.

On things like rebuilding the military or rebuilding the working class. Rather than saying tariffs are the worst thing and the economy is crashing. Which is Which is hyperbolic language. They ought to be competing with Trump in terms of rebuilding vocational education and training and getting ready for the next phase of the Industrial Revolution for working class, but they don't do that. Again, this is just, it's become a dynamic, a very self-defeating dynamic.

You'd be the angriest and the loudest person in the room. Protesting Trump, and Americans are starting to tune Democrats out.

So, if you're Governor Whitmore and you were working with her, and I only know it during the pandemic, I was not impressed. But let's say that she has some attributes that you get behind. If you were her campaign manager, queuing up, remember, she said, I don't want to be considered for Joe Biden's running men, even though Biden wanted her. Obama wanted her to get involved in the jungle primary, should they have had it? People seem to like her in the Democratic Party.

Would you say? You have a future if you say, I'm going to pick and choose the programs that I can support for Donald Trump and. Or do you right now say if you want a political future, Stay away from this president. Regardless of what you really think about him.

Well, it's a tough question because you have to win in primaries, but for the Democratic Party in general, I mean, I remember when I was chief counsel during the Clinton impeachment, what I used to say to the members, and I would always say to them: you don't have to shoot at every target. Just because somebody gives you a target doesn't mean you have to shoot at it. What the Democrats have to figure out is what they want to do, where they want to criticize Trump. And where they want to work with him on, and where they want to sort of outcompete him in terms of rebuilding in the future.

So what the Democrats need is a Clinton like charismatic figure who could say no to the groups who are drawing them. Further and further left. when the country doesn't want to go further left. And who can say You know, look on truck. For example, on tariffs.

Donald Trump has a good point about unfair trade. We are being taken advantage of. But a smarter way to do this would be just to focus on China. And to work with our friends in Europe, work with our friends in Canada. Work with our friends elsewhere.

Isolate Japan in particular, isolate China. Let's slay that dragon and then we'll move on to deal with unfair trade elsewhere. In the meantime, we're going to start rebuilding because the university system. I loved what you said about the anti-Semitic problem and the anti-intellectual problem growing in universities before the segment. But what we need to do, because universities are failing this country in so many ways right now, we have to rebuild the vocational system in a much, much more meaningful way.

So Democrats could say: look, Trump is wrong on. going hog wild on tariffs. He should be focusing just on China And in the meantime, this is what we're going to do to build rebuild the working class, an affirmative strategy that people can understand and relate to, rather than just being the angriest person in the room saying the world is coming to the end because Donald Trump is president, which is not working. People are tuning that out. And all it does is it helps Democrats raise money amongst a small segment of the activist community and the donor community, but it is alienating.

most of the voter base. Yeah, no doubt about it. And we'll find out what's going to happen with David Haag. He's being challenged too. A 25-year-old who thinks he can run the world.

And I'm looking forward to the way this shakes out. You know what I hope, though, Julian? If she is moderate, I don't really know enough about her. Every time I bring up Bashir being moderate, I get besieged by people saying, if you live in Kentucky, Brian, you know how dumb that statement is.

So I'll be open. I'm not in Michigan. But if she's a moderate, Fetterman's clearly a moderate. I would just like to see them fight. I think the country needs center left, center right, not extreme right and not extreme left.

And I don't know if it's possible to win a primary. Uh center left or center right? Just final thought, the last 30 seconds. That's the dilemma. Can you win the prime?

Can you do what's good for the party? And still survive a primary? That's the big question. And it takes a charismatic figure like Clinton. The guy I like, Brian, who you may have had on your show, I think you've had on your show, is Richard Torres, congressman from New York, who's very moderate, very anti-woke, very pro-Israel.

He's sort of like what the Democrats were during the Clinton era in the 1990s. And that's where the party needs to go back to if they want to be viable. in a general election. I hear you. Julian Epstein, thanks so much.

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Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. So we're looking at this story right now, and to me, I think it's terrible news. It looks like Michael Waltz is out at NASA's Security Advisor, although the Washington Post doesn't seem to have it yet. CBS is reporting it.

I'll see if the New York Times has it. Uh who did I'm sorry, Allison, what did you say? Oh, and Politico has it now too. Uh I don't I don't get it. Uh If anything controversial right now.

It is the economy. He has nothing to do with that. He's not even in directly involved in negotiations. On all three frustrating levels. When you got Iran, you got Hamas.

And you have Russia, Ukraine. I mean, that has to be just a clash among people that don't like the Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Michael Waltz mindset when it comes to foreign policy.

So I guess Politico's reporting it. It dates back to the signal chat. And it dates back to the signal chat, I guess. But that was one mistake. I'm pretty sure there's other people who have made mistakes.

I mean, Nash's, yeah, it says. Along with Alex Wong, who is probably his assistant, they're both Waltz and Alex Wong are out. Additional names, likely to expected to hear from the President of the United States soon. I mean, he gave up a lot. The congressman, extremely powerful, gave up a seat.

They want to seed over. And he was probably one of the people that many people thought was going to run for governor. of Florida, but he took the offer and he went with it. I think he's great on foreign policy. I think it's extremely disappointing.

It's the first guy to go from this Trump term too, and he probably is the most universally respected out of his entire staff. Not one Democrat. is happy that Michael Waltz is out. And I don't think there's any Republican That I know of. That We'd be happy that Michael Waltz is out.

So It's a shame. You got the sense when we saw him, and he was really stressed out on Monday when we were in the White House and spent the quality time with him.

So Michael Waltz is out in that security advisor. And the signal chat that put The Atlantic Reporter on? I don't know. Then the president sat down with the Atlantic.

So All right. Keep it here. Don't forget, we got One Nation coming up Sunday. We're starting to formulate who we're going to have. It looks like we're going to have Ambassador Mike Huckabee from Israel.

That'll be exciting. We also have a lot of great guests. Stephen Miller is going to be joining us too, and Joe Piscobo. Just three of the guests we're going to have on the Sunday show: One Nation Sunday at 10 o'clock Eastern Time. Keep it here, Brian Kilmeicho.

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian. In Kill Mead. All right, everyone, Brian Kilmead here. Thanks so much for listening.

This hour, we're going to be joined by Zarna Garg, an outstanding comedian, screenwriter. She's got a one-woman show out. That'll be great. And Liz Klayman is standing by, but the first big news: Alex Wong, assistant to the National Security Advisor, and Mike Waltz, this National Security Advisor, have been let go by President Trump, the first to go after just 100 days. I guess it dates back to the signal chat, which Look, that wasn't good, but as we know, it was a mission that was already completed.

There was a person on there that shouldn't have been, and that's definitely a mistake. But if you need to play the perfect game at the White House, I don't know anyone that's doing that. And I was I'm just uh stunned.

So I don't think it really benefits anybody, but the other big story remains the economy. I thought if people were going to get let go, it might be people that came up with that chart. When it comes to the tariffs, it seems to have a lot of challenges. Or the game plan with the tariff release, perhaps. But in terms of foreign policy, the president's got a bunch of, you know, a lot of spinning plates right now.

It all is in the hands of Steve Woodkoff with no experience in a real estate background. I don't really know why Mike Walsh has to pay the price for that. But let's talk about the economy. Liz Klayman, anchor of the Klayman countdown at 3 o'clock every day. I'm the number one business channel of the World Fox Business.

Liz, welcome back. Thank you so much.

So that's big news. Was not expecting that. Huge. And I'm watching the markets. The markets sometimes move on big changes or things like this.

And again, it's still sources, I believe. But it is now confirmed.

Okay.

Well, the stock market was already up today, and it came back yesterday from a major deficit. And why was that?

Well, first of all, the deficit came after the GDP, the gross domestic product for the economy for the first quarter, contracted. That is not a good thing.

However, we also had, it was almost like dueling data points. The data point that came out for the Federal Reserve's favorite inflation gauge was very, very benign and calm, which was a good piece of news.

So the markets came back. Could you explain this to me for who's not an economist?

So what they said, what was said to me is there was such a push to buy products before the tariffs kicked in, it threw off the GDP. That's called a distortion, and you always have to look at those distortions.

So what happened was people were so panicked that these tariffs, and rightly so, because things have gone up in many cases, were going to kick in that they front-loaded all kinds of inventory demands. And people, individuals, would go on Amazon and buy 10 of what they normally would have just bought one of.

So they front-loaded all of this demand. That distorts it, not to mention the fact that you also had a lot of... Upheaval in the markets. You know, April 9th, you saw the NASDAQ was down, plumbing around 15,000.

Okay, today it's at around 17 plus 000.

So it has come back. There's been this weird round trip, and businesses get very nervous. You're not wrong when you just said that that list, that big poster board of tariffs, was not positive for the stock market. And I'm not just talking about companies and big corporations. People looked at their 401ks.

And they had really, really vaporized in many cases. And that was very disconcerting for people who stopped spending.

Well, Liz, people you always tell people like me, there's going to be ups and downs. And in 2008, they said, don't look. Or came back, right? Anybody who sold April 9th or 10th made a mistake. Yeah.

So people see, calm down. These are not good. The pandemic hits, not a great time to look. Understood it.

So I just said, okay, this is unprecedented, the amount of tariffs and the reconfiguring of trade with hundreds of countries, 200 countries.

So the market seemed to have come back in a way. Here's Scott, the Secretary of Treasury, yesterday, cut five. The GDP came out down three-tenths of a percent. The first read of the first quarter GDP, I know that we'll see updates to that GDP, but Mr. Secretary, can you walk us through what happened there?

And does this indicate or suggest that we could in fact see a recession this year? No, Maria, as NEC Director Hassett said, we expect to see the number revised. It was a first quarter number. A lot of it may have been due to inventory stocking. I think there were some anomalies in the number as we pick it apart.

And remember, too, some of this is the economy that we inherited from the Biden era with the unsustainable spending.

So that number does not represent what's going on in the economy. It was a good first quarter despite the weakness we inherited. So that was the theme on the other channels. It wasn't a theme on your channel, but it was definitely something that needed to be talked about. Do you like his explanation or is that spin?

Well. Spin in part. Can I just say, if this were the Biden administration or a Democratic administration and you saw three-tenths of a percent contraction for the first quarter when you expected, the experts expected three-tenths of a percent to the upside growth, which is still pretty pathetic. The Republicans would be going absolutely crazy.

Now Was there some overhang from the last administration? No doubt. However, The first one hundred days just For the markets, gave the worst performance for the Dow, SP and NASDAQ since the Nixon years. Brian, I deal in numbers. I'm not interested in politics.

That's not good.

However, it doesn't mean that things aren't going to get better. I believe in the U. S. economy. It always comes back.

It seems like they're trying to reset the foundation. They're not saying these are my pop. They're looking to reset the foundation of the economy. They're looking to bring manufacturing back quickly. They're looking to address national security issues like the rare earth, metals, and pharmaceuticals.

And I think they're looking to rewrite relationships with even our enemies and our allies at once. Yes, and guess what? Part of that is really working. In this first 100 days, it's something like three plus trillion dollars worth of manufacturing that has been promised to come back to the United States. That's Donald Trump.

That's him saying, what are you doing? Do better.

Now, I do. I'm watching very closely the jobs numbers. We got first-time jobless claims. That's a fancy way of saying the first time people are jumping onto the unemployment line. That jumped kind of exponentially.

It's still historically not that bad, but we get the April jobs number tomorrow. And Brian, I have to tell you, we're watching for an expectation of 130,000 jobs created. March was 228,000 jobs created. Got to be really careful when you're watching businesses who can't read the landscape because there's been so much stop and go with these tariffs that they just stop hiring.

So I wanted to see what a trade deal would look like. We know that the USMCA took two years.

So I'm thinking, how are you going to take two years with this?

So Jamison Greer was asked that last night. Tell me what you're doing with India, South Korea, Japan. We hear they're close. Vietnam, Israel said, let's just do it. You saw indications from Italy that they're going to help the EU come in, right?

So here's what Jamison Greer said to Brett last night, cut eight. How about I throw out a country you say whether you're close? India? Yes. Finish line close?

I wouldn't say finish line close, but I have a standing call with India's trade minister. I sent my team to India for a week. They were here last week and I met with their chief negotiator. The Vice President was there. He was there and he announced a terms of reference with India, a framework for a broader trade agreement with India.

Exactly right.

South Korea?

South Korea, they've been very forward-leaning. We're going to see them again pretty soon. They've provided offers. We've given feedback. I think we're, again, we're out sometime with Korea, but they are going in the right direction.

So it just seems like I just said, I thought there might be a template. I just, boom, boom, boom. One after another. It doesn't seem. Like I'm holding my hands in my head because We had Howard Luttnick.

on CNBC, okay, and he said As he was talking about this, oh, one deal is done, done, done, done. He said done four times, and then he said, I mean, we still need to have the Parliament vote in that country and the Prime Minister. He didn't say which country. You could argue it was India. What part of that is done?

You don't know what these parliaments are going to do. Different from what the trade reports are going to say.

So, Jameson is actually being a little. More circumspect and maybe honest about what's going on.

So the the left hand is not quite talking to the right hand. And you just want to hear an actual solid deal, like you got yesterday with the special minerals deal. From Ukraine. Yes, that was a deal. Right.

So there's a couple of things. If I'm s the Treasury Secretary in my small world, I said, uh Jameson. Give me just give me the framework. Have the rest of your staff finish it out. Give me the framework.

Tell me where we're done. Show it to me. As soon as Bessett says, I got enough, let's announce it. I'm going to call the South Korean. I don't care if he's on Zoom.

And then you have India. How would the markets begin to react to that if the if not Lutnik, but the Treasury Secretary is saying, I'm here to announce some good news? The framework's been done. The details are being written right now for South Korea. And two hours later, I say, sorry to bother everybody.

We're back again because Japan has just finished off the framework. Jameson's crew, Greer's crew is going to finish off the details. How would the market react to that?

So Benjamin Graham, who was the famous, famous value investor, used to say, the market is a gigantic voting machine.

Now, you would think there will be a relief rally. I would think there might be a relief rally.

However, there's also the buy on the rumor, sell on the news.

Sometimes people then sell. It doesn't matter. What matters is that that is, as you put it, a foundation under which we could see. better numbers or at least some some clarity. From businesses or for businesses who can say, okay, now I can breathe, I know I can sell and buy from India.

So you had Mario Gabelli on yesterday. He's the CEO of Chairman and CEO of Gamco. Yes, billionaire, self-made, brilliant. Here's what he said to you about the recession, Cut 9.

Now, tomorrow you're going to have the GDP announcement. The imports that surged in the months of March and April are going to show you a slowdown in economic activity, and all of a sudden everybody's going to say, well, we have an economic recession. Stop. The point is that that's a great time to be investing if that puts that fear into the investor.

So the tariffs, yes. A learning curve for some of the administrators, and we're going through that. But the bigger issue for me. Is what his tax is going to be in the next four weeks.

So he wants the big, beautiful bill. That's what he's focused on. Listen, they want to know what the landscape is going to look like.

So they know: do I need snow tires? Do I need regular tires? How can I actually know if I don't know what potholes are going to be ahead, what's on the road, what kind of detours?

So when he sees, and this is for corporations, what the tax benefits are for them, whether it's, you know, you can write off 100% of your capital expenditures, things like that, then he said that's going to be great for earnings down the road for these companies. And how right was he about GDP contracting due to these distortions this time around? We'll see what happens. But listen, all through the Biden years, we had people coming on saying, I foresee a shallow recession in the next year. Never happened.

So we're overdue for one. Not sure you could then blame the Trump administration for that, but it didn't help that there is this much opaque atmosphere when it comes to trade. I know you have to get on a call. My last question is: what can we look to to find out what kind of condition China is in and how they're weathering this storm? China is this weird black box right now because we have President Trump saying, oh, I've spoken to Xi, and she is saying no.

But now there was some news today where they said that China and the U.S. have spoken, that the U.S. Yeah, at a lower level. And it's very hard to know. I predict that there will be some type of trade deal with the listen, some of these countries don't matter, but Canada, Mexico, China, India, Japan, South Korea, they matter.

Brian, they are the big trading partners. And we're thinking about shippings and what cargo ships are going to be on what, but do you think that they're feeling it? Yes. I know China's feeling it. We look at the ports, and they have completely shut down a lot of their exports, but they have also said we can take pain a lot more than the Americans.

I'm not so sure about that. That said, they are coming out of a bad economy over the past year and a half. They are hurting. But now he Here's the problem. They have this nationalistic thing that they have ginned up.

Saying, well, President Trump dissed us and we can be stronger than America.

So I don't know, but I do believe in the end there will be deals with these countries. They may not be markedly different from what we had before. I'm not on TikTok, are you? Yes. They are starting to pop up your algorithm that just goes to your needs.

Now, all of a sudden, people selling directly to you are popping up on your algorithm. Is that correct? That is correct.

Well, not to me, but to my staff. They're very young, and they said, Wait, why am I getting one? One is a guy, and he said, I'm getting women's clothes made in China. Guess what? That's the government.

Yeah, it's government-run. Will everybody out there pushing back against TikTok understand that says he should be out there to competing? It is a China propaganda device. 100% is out to hurt you. Mr.

President, it helped you because young people are on it, but now it's turning on you because there are no positive Trump trade stories on there. And that's what the young people are reading. Liz, I look forward to your show at 3 o'clock today. It's great to be here. Thank you so much, Brian.

Thank you. And meanwhile, the headline is: sadly, for me, Mike Waltz is out as national security advisor. You're listening to Brian Killmeat show. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Killmeat Show. AOC is clearly a serious candidate. If you look, we do have some polls for 2028 Democrats.

Now, they don't really tell you anything about 2028, but they do tell you a lot about right now. And Kamala Harris is leading, but not in the sort of dominant way you would expect the former nominee to have. Maybe she's around 30%. And you have Pete Buttigieg, who is doing very well in the Democratic world. AOC, now we've seen J.B.

Pritzker come out and he gives fiery speeches. That's what all the press reports say.

So they're having kind of a Trump-hating contest right now, and there are a lot of people who are vying for the top.

So Governor Whitman is the only one not hating Trump, who considered a leading candidate to be president or a leader. But I would also say Harris gave another below-average speech yesterday, nothing recognizable except for a ridiculous comparison to elephants and earthquakes. And then you have a situation. Where you have A series of speeches from various leaders. I just don't see.

How, you know, if you look at AOC, you see the exciting, but her message is terrible. If you look at Mayor Pete, why people think a guy that was, nobody thinks he was a good mayor. And nobody thinks he was a good transportation director. And by the way, Sean Duffy, and I'm going to talk to him about it. He was left such a mess.

Word is, this guy wasn't even showing up at his job. He had to be begged to show up in Palestine, Ohio, remember? You remember any disasters where every airport shut down, nobody had any backup equipment? He never looked to modernize air traffic control. They were left when Sean Duffy takes over, there were something like 3,000 short nationwide.

Of air traffic controllers through the pandemic, he let a whole bunch of people retire.

So I mean Tell me where he did good. Served in the military, and every he's all he ever talks about is how he's gay. I mean, I don't I don't think we need to get that doesn't get you elected anymore. I mean, does anyone even re know that the Secretary of Treasury's Secretary is kids? It doesn't matter.

We look at performance. In terms of performance, this guy should not be a contender. The governor of Florida, excuse me, the governor of Florida on pure merit. should be a contender to be president. On job performance, the governor of California should never be elected to any office ever.

Ever. Everything he does, almost everything he did was wrong. And then this Vice President. Borders are? Rejected doing the job.

It's impossible. An impossible job designed, given to her to make her look bad. Really? Tom Holman, it made him look good. And he was the border czar.

Fixed in 100 days. He's gonna leave it. You see, it's gonna be more fixed. And trying to clean up domestic that she left. She went out and asked Visa to invest in a Central American country.

And these are the people that earned the right to be the nominees, please. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Hey, welcome back, everybody, with us in studio, one of our favorite guests. I hope you're watching on the stream on Fox Nation or Brian Kilmead, or you go to foxnews.com, hit on watch, and you can just scroll until you get to us, Zonnegarg, comedian, screenwriter, and host of the Zonnegarg Family Podcast and author of the new book, This American Woman, a once-in-a-lifetime memoir. Zarner, congratulations on the book. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

And you just show me a picture of you in the subway. That's right. So I thought your first, when you decided to go from the funny person to your family and your friends to on stage, I thought it was a little stage. You found you did you get the stage, the pandemic hit, and then you hit the subway? Yeah, I mean, I I did my first sold out show at Carolines in Midtown and New York.

And a week after I did my first sold out show, the pandemic hit and New York City shut down. And because I was so new to it, I was really nervous that I'm going to lose my comedy. I'm gonna lose the funny.

So I just bought a mobile speaker and a mic and I started doing shows in the subways of New York City and I was doing a show um every evening under a tree behind the Met. Get out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for free. And how did you get people?

Social media? No, I just, whoever showed up, I was just accosting people, be like, let me tell you a joke. And were people thinking, well, this poor woman needs help? Yeah, or they were. We were just nervous, but they didn't want to react, so they were like, All right, just tell the joke and leave.

You know, sometimes you see crazy people and you just stand still. Right. And like let them do their crazy thing. Not till they thought you were one of those people.

So and that was what year. Uh 20 nineteen, twenty twenty. Twenty twenty. And how soon Were you already starting to establish yourself before the pandemic hit? With just starting, like just about making a little bit of a name, very minor.

I was working in one or two clubs in New York at the time. Right. And then you started on stage. How would you describe your humor? Family stuff, everyday life, humor, husband, wife, kids, many kids, teens, a very expensive college trauma, and and of course, the star of my show, the mother-in-law.

Right. So describe your life before you got to America. I mean, I was born and raised in extreme affluence in India. I was born into a. By the time I was born, my parents were wealthy, even though they were self-made.

By the time I came around, we had a big house, we had everything. We had air conditioning, which back then in India was a big deal. Like, you know, you're talking the 80s, 70s, even. I was a very happy, like, socially conscious Indian kid, like, ver in the Park Avenue of Mumbai.

So think think a leafy, beautiful street like Park Avenue in Mumbai. And you know, my mom passed suddenly and uh I was the youngest of four and my dad, the day after she passed, was like Uh you need to get married. And that kind of I was fourteen, yeah. Which which, by the way, in India, it's still it's young, but it's not like unthinkable. There are fifteen year olds who get married today.

So he picked a guy for you? An arranged marriage? He wanted to, yeah. He did eventually because I yeah. And did you stay with that guy?

No, no. I mean, no. I almost did because I was out of options. I mean, I left home. First of all, for two years, I was couch surfing in India.

Wow. So you go from affluent to couch surfing. My dad was like, listen, if you don't want to get married, you can't live here. He thought he would scare me into submission, and I thought he would come around. See, I thought he's riddled with grief because his wife has just died, my mom, and that he's going to come around and that this is all going to be okay.

And we were basically in a face-off.

So I left thinking, I'll just room with my friends. When you're 14, 15, you think life is a slumber party. And then I showed up at my friend's house, and after a day, my friend's mom is like, You should go back. And that's when it hit me. I was like, oh my God, like, I have nowhere to go.

And it was almost two years of. Where can I go tonight? Because my dad, you know. Did you stop going to school? I was going to school just about because everybody I stayed with was in my school.

And you know, India that way, unlike America, is a very community style life. Like you can stay with your friends, show up in school with their parents. Yeah, it's not a big deal. It's not that serious.

So I was still I finished school, but it was every day was a new trauma of like, where am I gonna stay tonight? And if and now, in hindsight, a lot of my comedy. Has its roots in those years because a big reason people opened their doors to me is because I made them laugh. You know, I always kept things light. I tried to offer whatever value I could, you know, around the dinner table or whatever was going on.

So, uh, but I gave up. At some point, I gave up and I went back to my crawling to my dad. I was like, all right, you win. Because I was trying to get a visa to come to America. My sister lived in America.

She still does in Ohio. And I was trying desperately to get a visa. You were just going to leave him behind. And your family behind you. I was gonna leave everything be because she was willing to take me and no one else was willing to take me.

I cannot believe your dad didn't cave. No. No. You believe it because. People back home are that severe.

Like i i I know in America it feels like a lot, but the guys back home, they're not fooling around. When they say you're gonna listen to me or else, they mean it. How did you get here? I got a visa. Eventually I got a visa my year is that?

In nineteen ninety two.

So ninety two you get here and then what do you do? You code yourself. I go I go to college. My sister knew I was always a avid student, a reader.

So your grades are good. My grades are excellent. I I that's the the one thing that hurt me in my life is my insatiable curiosity. But I always wanted to learn, and my dad thought that was the worst crime on earth. Why?

Because he's like women who learn too much, their lives get ruined, then they have a baby. I knew that was ridiculous. Did you know instinctively, even though culturally it wasn't, but do you know instinctively it was? But I had such a tearing need to learn. I can't even explain.

I mean, I'm a self-taught screenwriter who won the number one screenwriting competition in America, beat out 11,000 scripts myself. I taught myself on YouTube how to write a screenplay.

So there's something inside me that's desperate to learn. I don't even know what it is. I can't control it. Right. But so my dad, I mean, my whole life as a child, I got yelled at because I wanted to read the newspaper before anybody else did.

I still do today. I read every newspaper. I watch all the news shows. I'm desperate. And he would be furious.

Why are you reading the newspaper? This is not going to help you in life. Yeah. Well, it's incredible. You inherited the smarts from your mother or your father.

So you come here, you go to college, where'd you go? Yeah, University of Akron in Akron, Ohio. How'd it go?

So good. I mean, so good. I loved. I was in Ohio for almost seven years living with my sister, believe it or not. Thank God.

Thank God for rich relatives. Right. But she was very encouraging. Her husband was extremely, my brother-in-law is a doctor in America, has been practicing 40 years. They were like, you study as much as you want.

We're here with you.

So I went to college. I went to law school. I'm licensed to practice law in New York. We try to forget that. I'm really bad at it.

Okay, good. I'm not good at it. I'll keep that in mind. At one point, all my clients were in jail. I mean, they were guilty, but that's not the point.

Right, yeah. You were no help. Yeah. So you become it, but then you need to, you got to complete your life. How did you go about getting your husband?

I put an ad out online in 1997. I think I'm one of the earliest online dating successes. You put an ad out. I put an ad out. I was very, very matter of fact.

It was like, I'm looking for a life partner who's, you know, I'm going to be very successful. You need to be ready to go with me. I was like, no, friends, please don't email me if you want to be my friend. Because at the time, the TV show Friends was all the rage. And I remember thinking, as an Indian person, that show was like a horror show for us.

Why? Because nobody was ever getting married. They were dating. They were not dating. They were on a break.

They were not on a break. Like, to somebody with our sensibility, I was like, what is happening in this show?

So I was very confused. I'm not a Friends fan. I'm one of the few in America. I never bought it. I'm like, I just don't care about the characters.

I remember watching it and thinking, my dad was right. There is no hope for people here. But you were watching in India? No, I was here. But he was always getting in my sister's head.

He stopped talking to me. When I left India, we got estranged completely. We never spoke again. And you haven't spoken? No, he passed, and I wasn't even allowed to attend his funeral.

It was like he was like, I'm out of here. Because you turned out an arranged marriage at 14. I know it s feels shocking here in America, but what he remembers is that I walked away from a guaranteed life that he was going to set up for me. He wasn't a bad guy, to be clear. He wasn't.

He came from a good place. I have three siblings who are arranged. My sister was arranged and is deliriously happy and successful. Do you think arranged marriages should be more commonplace? I think the basis for arranged marriages is very solid.

Like, there's some calculation of What's your family like? What's your education like? Like, there's some logic to it.

So, there's some good elements to it.

Now, should it be done the way they do it back home where the women pretty much have no choice? I don't think that it should be done that way. Yeah, I agree with that.

So, the other thing would be: you take an ad out and you find somebody. There's another trend out there. They're offering now new relationships, four-year contracts. Would you think that would ever work if you married someone and say, How would you like a four-year marriage? People do all kinds of things.

I don't think it works in my sensibility because you're either in it to build it or you're not. Like, what? What does keep you on your game knowing that my contract's coming to an end? Yeah. Yeah, but it also keeps you on your mind.

Like, let me see what else is out there. Right. You know, like, that's dangerous. That's a dangerous path to go. I mean, now that I'm going to be famous someday.

Right. No, you are famous. No, I tell my husband, I'm like, listen, if I like to do the whole Hollywood thing, at some point, I'm going to need another guy. Right. Because that's what all the big players in Hollywood do.

How does he take that? We've been together 26 years. Right. And he answered your ad and you married him.

Well, he didn't really answer because my ad was bad shit crazy. Because one of the elements in my ad was bring your tax returns and medical records. Which, how impressive is that 20 years before COVID? Right. And he responded saying, Are you crazy?

Like, what is this? And we kind of struck a friendship over email. And I was like, I actually have hundreds of people responding to me in Cleveland, Ohio. That is unbelievable. But yeah, my husband and I were, we've been best friends long enough.

We laugh. And I even tell him, I go, I even know my next demographic. If things don't work out with my husband, for all your listeners, I'm telling you right now, my next move is a billionaire with heart disease. That's great.

Somebody who's got less great combination. That would be fantastic.

So, how long from when did you go from wife? Mom to comedian. About six years ago. And and th that transition seemed natural. It seemed natural the way I do it, right?

Because I'm not a product of the stand-up comedy scene. I just showed up at an open mic because my kids dared me to do it. But once I got up there, I was like. this is a job? Like, you know, no one back home has thought of stand up comedy as a profession.

Really? No, not at all. Like, n and they still don't. Like, I still have to, like, explain to Indian people what we're doing. First of all, they all we don't go out for fun.

That's the one. Where do you go out? SCT prep. We don't do we don't do all like you're not gonna see an Indian person really at a Taylor Swift concert. That's just not do you have clubs?

There's no clubs in Bombay. Even today, there's maybe one or two and then they get attacked for all kinds of reasons because it's not America. Like in America, say what you want about who you want. Like you can't do that everywhere else. You can't do that in India.

We had a club. It's a democracy. It is. And yet, yes, I'm telling you, go to all your listeners, Google right now. Indian Comedy Club destroyed just a few months ago because of something that some foolish thing a comic said.

You can't go back. That's the last thing you need. I don't think they want me back. Right. So, I mean, to have this book out to tell you a story, it's it's a great American, uh, a great American immigrant story.

How do you feel about all this talk about the illegal immigration? It's the number one topic, I think, in America. Yeah. Outside tariffs. How do you feel about it?

You know, The issue I have with it is that A lot, if not most, of the people commenting on it are not immigrants themselves. They have not gone through the process. They have not stood in that line. They have not been.

So I, because I immigrated myself, right, I know what it takes to do it legally. To how many years you have to follow the rules, follow the laws, all the documentation and everything that you have to submit.

So I kind of understand the crisis that it is. The way it is in America, and I hope that it gets fixed. All right, uh, the name of the book, it's out, it's called This American Woman: A Once in a Billion Memoir. Zana Gorg, it's her story. She's here right now.

She also has dates we'll share with you and come back. I also want you to comment on other people's relationships. Is that okay? Yeah, let's do it. All right, you listen to the Bryant Kill Me Show, where the breaking news is not good.

Good friend of the show, who I just interviewed on television two hours ago, Michael Waltz, has been fired at National Security Advisor along with Alex Wong, his assistant. I assume this dates back to the Signal Chat controversy. Don't move. Breaking news. The latest headlines.

Exciting commentary. People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time. It's Brian Kilmead. Mm-hmm.

The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

The other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse, as he writes in his book. Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there. Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion about your private life.

It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it. How do you deal with that? Never been too worried about what everybody else thinks. Just try to do what I feel like is best for me and what's right. How did you guys meet?

Not talking about this. No. No. So she evidently interrupted six times. I'm talking about the 24-year-old girlfriend of Bill Belichick who wrote a book, something about winning, which, of course, he knows a lot about.

And also, he's lost. The Browns didn't go well. He was head coach, you know, he was assistant coach under, he was assistant coach under Bill Parcells. A lot of people think he was overshadowed big time.

So I think he's got a lot to say. And also, it ended when Brady retired. He wasn't successful. I'm interested in the book. But when CBS brought up something as a personal relationship, out from the corner comes a 24-year-old girlfriend taking control, looking like she's directing the interview.

Zarner Garg is here. Her book is now out, The American Woman, a one in a billion memoir, which is a fantastic story. But Zarn, we talk so much about relationships, the difference in American culture. Your thoughts about this relationship and a 24-year-old girlfriend interrupting a legendary Hall of Fame coach while he's doing an interview. I think he likes it.

Brian, I think he likes it. I think he has to make so many decisions in his professional life and he has to be a boss. I think he's enjoying being slapped around like this. Is it but s isn't it humiliating? Come on.

This is turning him on, obviously. It's like he he's allowing it. Right. And how about this? Would you ever allow someone to show up for an interview for a book with with a old shirt with holes in it?

A 72-year-old man. The thing is that I do think she's a social media and a media genius because she knows this little hole is going to get this interview thing popping more than anything he can say. Interesting. How many people zoomed in and were like, is that actually a hole in his shirt? Here is Alec Baldwin on the red carpet with the mom of seven.

He's had a hell of it last three years. Listen to Alec Baldwin, who's as belligerent as he gets, but now we're around his wife. Listen. Do you want more of this? Season two?

Do we know what you did? The Ilaria show. No, no, I think we're gonna see, you know, we're gonna see how it feels to have it be out there. This is a winner. Oh my god, when I'm talking, you're not talking.

No, when I'm talking, you're not talking. This is why, yes, we'll have to like just cut him out of the show. No Come on, Zarna. That's not acceptable, is it? Would your husband talk to you like that?

I think she forgot she's not talking to one of her seven kids. And she had a moment of like, I'm talking to my son. Right. Don't you think we got a glimpse inside that? Yes, we really did.

But once again, he must like it. There's no way this is happening without his permission. Right. You know what I mean? But yeah, I mean, it's just so weird to see two guys who usually get in people's face, totally controlled by a strong woman.

Who you are, Zarna Garg, as funny as it gets, the American woman. Where can we see you on the road? Where do we go? What website? I'm going to, oh, ZarnaGarg.com has all my tour dates coming up.

I'm going to be all over the country touring my third hour because my second hour, Practical People Win, is dropping in Hulu in July. Wow. You are productive. Keep it up. That's what we do.

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