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They said they clubbed their club charter has been revoked and that they didn't plan anything on Wednesday when the Israeli official came to speak. And they lied because we have this thing called social media now. Netano Crisp, a senior at Yale joins us now on Zoom. Hey, thanks for joining me last night with Laura and thanks so much for joining me today. First off, you got the video. Someone shot the video of you just trying to walk across campus. How long have you been dealing with this anti-Semitic hatred?
Yeah, thank you so much for having me again. It's been two years. You know, I'm a senior here at Yale, a Jewish senior. And starting day one, October 7th, we started facing this kind of hate. Two days later on October 9th, hundreds of students organized by this exact same student group, including many members of the faculty gathered right off campus to celebrate the resistance to success.
No way. Stop that faculty celebrating with them off campus or on campus. This was immediate immediately off campus, but these same faculty members then continued with these demonstrations on campus throughout the last two years.
And we've seen throughout even recent days, a continued kind of surgeons of this anti-Israel anti-Semitic activity motivated and perpetrated by members of staff, of administration, and of students. I assume that you didn't know any of this when you picked Yale. I mean, I can't imagine how great your grades must have been to get in. I'm sure you had a lot of choices. If you knew anything about the anti-Semitism on campus, would you have made this choice? You know, it's hard to say. I'm definitely a fighter, so I'm very glad to be able to be here and to support my Jewish peers.
And that I think is what's motivated me to say and to stick around and to keep the fight going. But no, when I applied to Yale, I viewed it as a home. When I came to Yale, it was a home away from home. And now it feels much more like an asylum and the patients are running the show.
So it's a crazy scene and definitely not what I expected. So Netanyahu, these American kids, are they foreign students? What's the makeup of the Yalies for Palestine group? Definitely a diverse combination. We have students from the graduate schools involved, from the undergraduates, a variety of different groups that will merge for these events.
Also bringing in outside agitators, as we observed with this demonstration on Tuesday night, where it definitely appeared there were a lot of adults who would come in from the surrounding areas, locations unknown. So a wide range of students, many of whom though are using both the liberties that exist as US citizens, but also these liberties that are provided to them on the basis of being students on visas. And they are taking advantage of that and trampling over American values in the process. Let me ask you, the president of the United States wants to look into who these foreign students are. Why are they taking spots away from Americans? I know you have to have foreign students. Of course, I'm not dumb.
You need people playing full freight. But I don't think the kid in Indiana or in Portland, Oregon has got to lose his or her spot after doing, just to be eligible for Ivy's, to some kid who's gonna come here and create unrest on campus, or doesn't really have the grades to get in. Yeah, absolutely. I'm a descendant of proud immigrants on one side of my family. Mayflower descended on the other. So I really embody the American dream having seen kind of and received and been the recipient really of the great work and hard work that my ancestors had to do to allow me to be where I am today. And to put all this in perspective and context, just acknowledging where these demonstrations are happening. While I'm being blocked and while my Jewish peers are being blocked from walking through our campus, we're looking up and seeing the American flag. This event was being hosted on sacred ground. This is the area that houses Yale's Memorial for Veterans with the American flag there having been torn down at last year's encampment and these students having attempted to burn it, having only barely been saved by some of my friends.
So this is the area that they are desecrating in the process. And as that flag waves, I watch as all of these values that my ancestors, my great grandfather who served in World War II fought so hard to preserve. So you're saying, wow, so you said a year ago they took down your flag, they took down the flag and they were going to burn it and you helped stop that? My friends did.
I'm very grateful. Yes. So let's just go back to the incident. Why were they protesting on Wednesday? Great question. They give a variety of different reasons, but the main thing is it was the one year anniversary of last year's encampment. These students don't need an excuse to be antisemitic.
They look for any opportunity that they can. It combined with a variety of different events. First and foremost, this is during Yale's Bulldog Days, which is a period of time for three days when over 1400 early accepted students or students that had recently been accepted into the class of 2029 arrived on campus to experience Yale for three days. And that's what they were met with. So I watched as this event was happening as incoming first year students, Jewish students, were witnessing their first kind of incidents of antisemitism. And this also coincided with Yom HaShoah, which is Israel's Holocaust Memorial Day. So for both of those events to be taking place at the same time just reflects the degree of hostility that Jews are facing here at Yale.
So I understand there was a visit from Israel's national security minister. Was that true? Is that part of the reason they came out?
Potentially. They did a second demonstration yesterday that was an off-campus event that was housed separately, which there was numerous demonstrations for as well. So we saw kind of this combination of all those factors, and that was an attempt by them to shut down that event. They targeted Jewish students and participants in the community who were trying to attend and to leave. I know people who had water bottles thrown at their head there by these protesters.
So we just continue to see this violence go unchecked. They shop, you save. Go to selectquote.com slash Spotify pod today to get started.
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It would have been crazy. There was an over-exuberance and anger towards the Muslim community, and that needed to be stopped. I get it. But if they were protesting Muslims, stopping them from moving across campus, if they were stopping black students or white students, black students from going across campus, there would be outrage. But for some reason, we have to go after a school for allowing antisemitism. Do you agree with my analogy why they have a problem with some and willing to accept other types of bigotry?
Absolutely. That's something that I've highlighted in my Title VI complaint through the Department of Ed, which I've worked with my Jewish peers here at Yale to file, which is highlighting this disparate treatment that this doesn't happen to other groups, any other protected groups. This only happens to Jews. It's only the Jewish question that you have to analyze whether or not this is antisemitism, whereas in any other case, the school over the last few years would have come out unequivocally in condemning these types of actions. So they stopped Columbia. They froze $400 million of Columbia.
And Columbia says, OK, what do I need to get that back? And they're going to try to do everything except for they will not agree to any access to their curriculum. And then we know what's happening with Harvard. They got their money frozen. They're suing to get the grants back. What would get Yale's attention?
I think we need to see similar action. I think we need to have some funding pulled. There has to be immense pressure placed on the Yale administration by the federal government and by alumni and anybody else who can.
And I think you highlighted a key point, which is the departments. This really is an issue that lies in the faculty here at Yale in large part. There's fantastic faculty here at Yale and some really bad ones.
I think looking at specific departments, whether it's American Studies or East Asian Studies that have been hosting these events on and off. So I can imagine what American Studies are like. Should they be anti-American studies?
Right. That would be a better way of putting it. The majority of those faculty have engaged in these activities and are perpetuating this type of anti-American sentiment amongst the student body. Have you noticed that in classes you've taken? What's your major? I'm a history major. So in history, how do they characterize American history?
It varies. I'm very selective as to which professors I'll take courses with, because unfortunately I've found that the bar has been lowered and that many of these newer faculty are just people that I don't feel safe being at the mercy of for grading or otherwise in the classroom. So I want you to hear what Alan Garber said. He's the president of Harvard. And when asked about what funding cuts would mean for research, let's look.
This is cut seven. What's at risk is the excellence of higher education in the United States. And in particular, the research mission of many of our universities, which plays such a vital role in the research and in the health and well-being of the American people. Is that a risk if we cut the funding and freeze the grants?
I think there are definitely losses that are going to occur. But at the end of the day, these schools are not entitled to taxpayer dollars to fuel this anti-Semitic hate that's overwhelmed these campuses. And they can continue that, but not at the taxpayer's expense. So I think the federal government has every right to cut this funding and that if the schools want to react and respond, the way to do that is to fight back against this discrimination, to look over their teaching habits and styles and curriculum and find a way to bring them back to the highlight of elite education here in the United States. Has anyone reached out to you in the faculty? Has anyone reached out to you with the Yale administration?
I've not been contacted by the head execs here at Yale. I've yet to hear anything from the president. And that's something that I'm still waiting to see. Does it hearten you that the Yalies for Palestine have had their charter revoked as a club on campus? Definitely a step in the right direction. But unfortunately, perhaps a little too little too late.
It's been two years of this. I think to highlight just how important that is, for the last two years, this student group was receiving funding from Yale to engage in these anti-Semitic protests so that not only were they violating all of Yale's policies in the process, but also violating the law. And Yale was giving them the money to do so.
So I'm glad that's no longer the case. But I expect that little will change in terms of their activities. And they've even put out social media posts today. So I'm glad that they're putting out social media posts today, highlighting that this will not in any way deter them from these actions.
So until Yale takes the necessary measures to necessary steps to penalize and discipline these students to expel those students responsible and ensure that they don't receive their degrees, we will not see the change that we really need to. Well, he's a fighter and we see it on video. You don't see it in this segment, but you saw it.
It's out there online. Just trying to get across campus, get ready for a senior thesis and he gets stopped. Why?
Because he's Jewish. I mean, can you believe I'm talking about this in 2025? That's what he's living as a senior at Yale and he's felt it for the last two years. Let's stay in touch and we'll continue to push back. And I think people should know what the Trump administration is fighting for. It's for people like you and to do the right thing. Nenil, thanks so much. Stay safe. Thank you.
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