But when I see what's happening with these socialists, I I counted today 30 or 40.
Socialists who are primary other Democrats, leading or primary sitting Democrats. Like this guy, Dan Goldman in New York is as left-wing as he gets. He hates Trump. Just a fighter, nonstop. He's losing by 30 points.
To a Mondami Sycophant. Sky Lander. Thirty points. And you know what's killing Dan Goldman? That he is pro-Israel, not even pro-Netanyahu.
He's pro-Israel. Think about that. You have a a Socialist Party on the left rising. that hates Israel. And I guarantee you, we're going to see these moments on the debate stage for president.
How many people here are for defunding Israel? And everyone's going to put their hand up. I'm talking about Mark Kelly. People to judge. For certain Gavin Newsome and Kamala Harris.
Who knows, maybe Elizabeth Warren. They're going to put Bashir and Shapiro. I don't know if Bashir and Shapiro put their hand up. I don't think Shapiro would put his hands up. I wouldn't think.
But I'm just really concerned for the country. I'm not, you notice I'm not even talking about November.
So if that, I'm worried with those socialists, even though it might give the Republicans a leg up. I'm just worried about the country. I I you know, when George H. W. Bush lost to Bill Clinton, we went from center right To center left.
Well now we're going to I I was watching this yesterday. The Supreme Court. All these candidates, RoConan on this, say everybody is going to add justices to the Supreme Court and put an age limit in. If you get rid of the filibuster and they do, they're going to look to do that once they if they get the presidency. I think it's terrible for the country.
If we don't like the country, let's change the institutions, not change something within the institution. Julian Epstein joins us now, served as chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee and staff director of the House Oversight Committee for Democrats for five years. Julian. Do you share when I was talking to Melissa DeRosa, who used to work with Governor Cuomo for years through his three runs as governor? About this rise of socialism and how prevalent it is, not niche to just.
New York City? Yeah, Melissa and I are in the same camp, and I agree with everything you said on your setup. I think the rise of socialism is a reflection. of something even deeper that's happening inside the Democratic Party, which is most Of the politicians, most of the activist class, the academic class, don't know anything about building. The way the old Democratic Party did, the way the Democratic Party did during the Clinton years.
So, if you don't know how to build, if you don't know how to If you don't know anything about how wealth is created, how prosperity is created, what you tend to sell is deconstructionism, tearing down. And I think what you're seeing with a lot of these movements on the left. is this notion that um We want to undermine western exceptionalism because it's a cheap and easy thing to sell to voters. If you're frustrated, with something in your life, if you're not as happy that you you know, your neighbor may have more Success than you do. Then we're going to sell you this lie, this conjob, that the system is unfair.
Um and that the only way to rectify the oppression of the system is through Destroying the system. And that's what I think is increasingly happening on the left. It's certainly in the activist class. It's certainly in the academic class. And those are the feeders, Brian, for the political class.
And I share Your lament. I share your concern about what it means for the country.
So, Melissa told me yesterday she formed a super PAC you should join, pushing back against socialism in the Democratic Party. And that should be a part of what, because you always talk about that.
So, I want to bring you to another socialist slash, he called himself a communist, Graham Plattner, over in Maine. These are some of the things that he's done. Made liberal use of slurs intended to demean homosexuals and mentally disabled, praised Hamas's raid that killed five Israelis, embraced political violence, Called rural Americans racist and stupid, Identified as communist and socialist, downplayed the seriousness of sexual assault and rape, mocked a Purple Heart soldier, said he should have died, and mocked the way he handled himself and ridiculed the Taliban for not killing him, which is unbelievable to me. And now he's got this secting scandal where he was in constant contact with eight women eight women. Here he is yesterday, cut eighteen.
But the stories are true, right? About the texts? No. No, this is the amazing part. The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times ran stories without any evidence besides the gossip from a former staffer.
I'm sorry, that's uh That's, frankly, journalistic malpractice. That staffer was told by his wife. When they were saying, before I start running, let me just tell you that he's got some problems because he's on these websites, these dating websites, unsavory dating websites, not conventional websites, while married. Is this going to be a problem? And that person came forward to the New York Times and Wall Street Journal.
So now he's in Washington pleading his case: don't abandon me. What do you think they're going to do?
Well, it's funny to watch the Democrats squirm on this. You know, there was just nothing but. Five, six, seven years of pearl clutching about every allegation that was made about Donald J. Trump. whether it was true or false.
Um, and now you have all of this personal stuff coming out about Platiner. It's not just the report I heard this morning was sexting. With 12 different. His account on Kick with that photo that I don't think is a very flattering photo. The discussion of prostitutes and masturbation and portigans and sort of all of these things, the mocking of the soldiers, all of this like weird psychopathic stuff that that paint a you know, sort of a weird bizarre Personal profile of this guy.
But to watch Democrats sort of squirming. When they were so morally righteous about these issues when it came to the other side, I just think it shows that the Democrats use their sort of Use Okay. Those issues as a way to gain power, and they don't really subscribe to them in a sincere way. But the real pornography, Brian. I think that you pointed out was The fact that he makes common cause with terrorists.
It's not just the Nazi tattoo, it's the fact that he has consistently championed Hamas, which is a terrorist, racist, ethno-nationalist movement. The closest thing to Nazism we've seen that's what the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia has said. The closest thing to modern-day Nazism we've seen. And he finds common cause with them. It's funny.
Democrats go around calling people Nazis and fascists all the time that they can't even recognize. When Nazism and fascism is coming into their midst in a much more serious, significant way.
So, the number of contradictions and hypocrisy that's going on in the left here is extraordinary to me. And what it tells me is that Democrats don't have much of a bench. They are finding these people that have no experience, that have these bizarre backgrounds, and that the only thing that Takes to get in the gate. is to have this sort of anti-Western deconstructionist, let's bring revolution to the system. Um Because of a criticism, a so-called criticism of the system that they don't themselves really understand.
You know, the West has done more for poor people and middle-class people than any civilization ever in the history of humankind. It has done more to secure the economic opportunity for all of its citizens. It's not perfect, and the individual liberty more than any system ever. And these clowns on the socialist left come out talking about the oppression of the system.
Well, like, as compared to what? Identify a system for me that has done more to advance the economic opportunity of billions of people, literally billions throughout the world, and the individual liberty. There's no system ever that even comes close. There's nobody competing with Western exceptionalism. But these clowns don't understand that, and they're selling this oppression, oppression, oppressor.
Press to pressor framework because they don't know anything else. They can't sell anything else. They've never built anything. None of these clowns have ever been involved in building a business, meeting a payroll. They don't know how to build.
So all they sell to the voters is: you know, we're going to tap into whatever resentment you have and say it's the fault of the system. And it is, as you pointed out in your setup piece, Brian, it is really, really. poisonous. to what has been a you know a a magical uh experiment with American democracy. If you're into tech, you'll love this.
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So, I want you to hear Bernie Sanders is not abandoning him. This guy, Senator Gary Peters, says, I'm going to wait to see what he says. To Adam Schiff says, I won't endorse him. Corey Booker says he's got some explaining to do, but not Bernie, Cut 19.
So, I think maybe we should be focusing on the important issues. facing working people throughout this country, not focusing on his marriage. And my understanding is that his wife, Amy, who I've met, indicated that they love each other. But maybe we focus on the issues facing the American people, the people of the And not the marriage issues facing Grand Plan. But is sending sexually explicit messages, does that make you is that the right person for office?
Are you at all rethinking your endorsement? Oh, certainly not. Certainly not. Certainly not. So sticking with them, sticking with the socialists everywhere.
So, and you got about 40 primary sitting people right now. Is there any doubt in your mind, Julian, that when the Republicans, when the Democrats get on stage, For the presidential debates, they're going to be asked how many people are for cutting off aid to Israel and every handle go up, except maybe Josh Shapiro? I think that's right, Brian, the way that the Democrats were asked in the twenty twenty election, how many are of you are for decriminalizing border crossings. Yes, this is a it's a race to the bottom. I think this anti Israel Movement is very adjacent to anti-Semitism.
Let's import. Let's import tens of millions from the third world and let's get rid of all the Jews. That's sort of the that's that seems to be what the left is hinting at right now. And I think you're going to see, Ryan, an exodus of not just Jews, But centrists from the Democratic Party. We've spoken before on this program about the realignment of the middle class.
We spoke about that in the days leading up to the 2024 election.
Well, I think you're going to see. A major Jewish defection. It's been about 70, 30 for Democrats.
So I think you're going to see a major Jewish defection. I think you're also going to see a defection of sort of centrist Independent centrist Democrats who believe in national security, believe Israel is the most. Um uh uh pluralistic democracy that is uh that defends Human rights, you can criticize all you want about Gaza, but what Israel was doing in Gaza was taking out a terrorist network of 300 miles of underground networks. You know, the basic The basic truth is if Israel laid down its arms, Today All of Israel would be slaughtered. Ten million Israelis would be slaughtered.
If Hamas laid down its arms, there would be peace.
So there's a complete lack of moral clarity, and I think it's going to translate into more political trouble for the Democrats. And I, for one, am certainly not going to support a Democratic Party. that wants to defund Israel. And I think there's a lot of fellow travelers with me. Lastly, she's back.
The Bidens are back to explain themselves, and they are absolutely clueless that the landscape has changed and nobody's covering their backside. Here's Jill Biden trying to explain herself after the debate by keeping her husband in the race, cut 54. If you could go back in a time machine and do it all over again, would you have encouraged them maybe to not run again? You know, as I look back, would I want to put Joe through the hurt and the pain that we felt during that time? Never.
Never. I mean, it was so hurtful. And um So it sounds like you're saying if you could do it all over again you probably would have encouraged him to to be a one-term president. But it had to be his decision Craig. It had to be his decision alone because he had to live with that decision the rest of his life.
I couldn't say, Joe, do this or Joe do that. It was his decision to run in the first place, only his, even though the family had their input, especially the grandchildren. you know, it was his decision to get out.
So I have a few things to say, but Julian, what do you have to say about that? I mean, it's such a gaslight. Everyone knows she was pushing for him to run. Everyone knows she knew better than anyone else about his decrepit mental state. It's a con job on her part, but everyone expects that from her.
She's sort of a villain, the villainess of the 2024 campaign. But what I find interesting, Brian, is all of these Democrats attacking her now, saying, you know, she was sort of part of the cover-up. They were part of the cover-up. The entire Democratic Party, we knew about Biden's state in 2021 in Afghanistan in August of 2021, and when he didn't know what his general's positions were.
So the fact that the Democrats are now covering their own asses and saying, oh, look how villainous Jill Biden is. The entire Democratic Party was part of this cover-up. I was arguing this, as you know, with you and others, that he should have, as early as 2022 and 2023, that he had no business running for re-election. The level of dishonesty, the layers of dishonesty here is just, you know. Job, Smack.
Jaw dropping. And Julia's going to get worse. We only have 30 seconds, but Joe Biden's going to do his bio now. When that comes out, is this going to bring this whole thing up again? Is that a nightmare for Democrats?
I think that most Democrats think he wish he would get off the stage. I don't know who's going to write his biography. I don't think it's going to be him. And I just think there is this. Thirst for redemption.
And I think there is no redemption for the Democrats in 2024. Yeah, we'll see what we'll see who's going to emerge. Julian Epstein, thanks so much. It's a big primary day. You know, I can't believe how we're interested we are in June.
Julian Epstein, thank you.
