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Down low, 16, 19. He's heating it up, Mattias Micelli, but the hands to knock that down on a mid-air, get it to the forehand, then to the backhand and elevate that pump. Thank you to them for everything that they've done for us, and obviously it's something that there's a lot of disappointed people out there and people that are upset. It's going to hurt, and it's going to sting for a while, and that's something that as a player you want to feel apologetic for everything, but as someone who's grown up in the valley and grown up with it, you kind of feel the pain as well. I think it's something where tonight you just focus on the game, enjoy one last game, and then who knows what's going to happen down the road, but for now the Coyotes are still Arizona's team for one more day, so just kind of embrace it. This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. That last voice, Josh Doan, the rookie, the son of Shane Doan, one of the best players in Arizona Coyotes history, a dubious history, a rocky history, a history fraught with uncertainty and frustration and disappointment and emotional fans who have come to grips with the fact that their franchise is leaving. Though it was Winnipeg who lost the franchise to Arizona, so again a history that's been fraught with a lot of complications and fans left in its wake.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. The news came down on Thursday. NHL Board of Governors have approved not just the sale to the Smith family who own the Utah Jazz, but now the relocation of this franchise to Salt Lake City. We heard how the fans felt about it in the moment on Wednesday night. We played a part of the tribute, the emotional farewell from longtime Coyotes broadcaster Todd Walsh when the arena had emptied out and he was one of the only people left there. It brought people to tears, and it went viral. Couple million views on social media.

That's just Twitter alone. We reached out to Todd and he's kind enough to join us now from the desert. Todd, I can't imagine the roller coaster you've been on over the last couple of days, but how are you feeling now after knowing for sure the team will be moving to Salt Lake?

First of all, thanks for having me. It's remarkable to be talking to someone a country away and talking about this. It strikes right into the heart and soul of the sports community in Arizona, but I think it's a little bigger than that. I was on the road with them on this last road trip. We had a five game trip near the end and we started to hear some of the rumors and then some of the stories started to break. It was sort of a slow bloodletting because, candidly, for those of us who were in the traveling party and up on the road, we saw the handwriting on the wall.

When you're embedded with the team, you see things and hear things that you can't report, as I know you know. The reality of it for me was just an inevitable moment. Then coming back home and watching it unfold in front of the fans at Mullet Arena last night was obviously the straw that broke the camel's back and then the news today. I was bracing for it, certainly in Canada, but really the reality is I was watching games at Mullet Arena and realizing that where there's smoke, there's fire. You just started to hear the comments and teams that were coming into town. They weren't happy. The union wasn't happy.

The league certainly knew that that wasn't sustainable. It's been a long, slow process and then the cliff. I don't know if I really answered your question, but I felt it coming when we were flying back from Calgary. I was preparing to say goodbye on the air last night.

That's basically where I was. I do want to talk about that because your goodbye of sorts and your stories have gone viral. Todd, if you had to tell someone who had no knowledge of the situation at all why it came to this, what would your answer be? It's about the economy, stupid.

Thank you for watching that. To me, it's just a series of mistakes. You can put the lion's share of this on the Morello family. There were so many missteps. You've got to go all the way back to the very beginning, year number one, when they were in the America West Arena, the Suns Arena, and the Obstructed Youth seats. They were the second citizen, the second tenant to the Suns.

They couldn't put their own signage up. They were always chasing their tail. Once that started, they were dealing with that financial reality.

They were losing money. The drums started beating for this team to leave in year two. It was literally at the 11th hour that they didn't go to Portland. There were players that were going to be sent to Portland to look for homes. That's what these guys were doing in Salt Lake City, Quebec, Kansas City, Houston, Winnipeg, and Seattle.

All those rumors just kept going. As you look at this thing from 30,000 feet over 28 years, there was never stable ownership. They never got the arena that they really needed. The Gila River Arena in Glendale was on the west side. It was just so hard to get to anywhere near the population of their season ticket holders.

They won an election in central Scottsdale. The owner at the time was more into real estate. He wanted to build a mall. He got free land in Glendale. I could go on and on and on. It starts with location, location, location.

It starts with ownership. It wasn't completely dialed in specifically for hockey. That just started to add on top of it. Finally, the Miralbo takeover and leaving Glendale Arena and effectively giving them no place to play that was suitable for the National Hockey League.

I think it all just piles on and then you've got what happened today. The league just couldn't do this anymore. There's no way. I know the league is desperately in love with this market. They've been so committed to it. I think they'll come back to it at some point.

Don't know when. This is a sports tragedy here in Phoenix, Arizona. I love what the Diamondbacks president, Derek Hall, said today. This is a wake-up call. We just lost one of the majors.

This is a top 10 television market, I believe, too. So, Todd, what's it been like to be with this franchise through the highs and the lows and the uncertainty and everything else? I mean, it's been decades of this. I never felt certain.

I mean, if I can talk to you on a personal, professional level about it. I had a job that I've always wanted and every single year, and I mean every single year. It didn't matter if I was under contract or not. The ground was moving and it felt like we were on quicksand all the time. I would just be so happy when I would show up for opening night because, okay, I know I've got 82 games. But there was just this never-ending drama and passion play that was just unfolding every year. But I always thought that one of the reasons why the Coyotes did have success early on, first of all, they were the new shiny new object in town. It was really exciting. There is a hockey base here, but they were like Avis Renicart because they tried harder and they knew it.

Nothing came easy to them. So they would pound the streets and the pavement for tickets and promotions and doing everything they possibly could to get people in the building. My stump speech for hockey is if you get in the building once, just once, and you see it and you feel it and you smell it and the visual explosion that is a hockey game up close and personal, you're going to come back.

And if you can't come back, you might watch it on TV. And that's what we were doing. I mean, it was all hands on deck. I had a stack of tickets that I got, season tickets, that I carried in my bag. And wherever I went, the marching order was, if you see somebody and they recognize you or they've got a Coyote shirt on or hats, here, give them a ticket.

I had that for years. I walked around, it looked like a Tony Soprano lot of money in my hand. And if someone said, hey, love the Coyotes, can. And those were the little things that added up and then that changed. And then there was a sense of entitlement and there was new ownership and new management where they thought, well, it's Tuesday and Nashville's here, everyone's going to come. Well, that was wrong. And you can't do that in Arizona.

You can't do that in a destination like Phoenix, a resort city. It's just, you've got to hold their attention. And then the other part of it all is, and I didn't even mention this, is winning. And they just had several years of mediocrity and horrendous draft picks and they never had a complete rebuild and didn't do it right. So that's a very long-winded answer and I apologize, but it's a complicated story. That's the part that sticks with me and resonates with me is the fact that it's been going on for so long.

And as you point out, quicksand, you always wondered when the other shoe would drop. And that's a tough way to live, not just for people employed by the team, but how about the team itself, even though that's transient and the roster often changes, but there have been ownership changes and management changes. And I say a lot that constant change equals constant losing in sports. And it feels like that's the cycle the Coyotes have been stuck in.

Yes. And if you're constantly finishing between eight and 15 or whatever it was, and you're just not getting that top three draft pick, you're not getting the generational player every now and again, you're never going to do it. I give Bill Armstrong, the general manager, all the credit in the world because when they brought him in, they finally just broke the cord and they said, we're going to do a rebuild. It's going to be hard. It's going to be really hard.

And it was a total rebuild. And now that's the heartbreaking thing is this team's going to Salt Lake City and they're going to be good. They're going to be really good.

They've got such high-end skill. And I think guys that potentially could be maybe not generational stars, but perennial all-stars in this new wave of the National Hockey League. And I know they're going to spend money in Utah.

I would not be surprised to see them in the postseason pretty quickly. And that'll be, I mean, for Coyote fans here, that's just going to feel like, oh man, Grand Theft Hockey. Longtime Coyotes broadcaster, Todd Walsh with them from day one is now with us here on After Hours with Amy Lawrence on an historic day that has been a poignant and emotional one. What have you heard from the fans about this moment and this move?

Man, last night it was, it was powerful. And again, there's just been a visceral connection to the Coyote fan base for years and years and years because of all the speculation that I just described, because we were all sort of living it together. That's why I said what I said at the end of our show, we really do walk together forever. And, you know, I was a part of that parade of rights holders on radio and then television where we're asking people, invest in this product. And I don't mean financially, that never concerns me.

But it's the emotional investment that you want a fan base to have in your team and your product, your shows. You know, I was constantly doing that and then now they're gone. So last night, I saw so many people that I hadn't seen in a long time. And I was telling the story earlier that you would, you would make eye contact with someone and instantly knew there was a long standing recognition. And then he started to get closer to the person, the handshake starts and the hand squeezed a little harder than normal. And all of a sudden you're in an embrace. And inevitably one of us would whisper, this didn't have to happen. I mean, there was anger there and there was frustration along with the sadness. So I sensed that.

I was there for two hours after the game last night when I drove out, there were still fans just cheering and applauding all of us that were leaving the building. And you know, it's hard. It's hard. I mean, it's a heart and soul thing. It's a heart and soul sport. The fans are so connected in hockey. I think like maybe none other sport and it was hard to drive away. It was really hard to drive away last night. Your goodbye, your ode to the coyotes. It was also a love letter to fans and to the family was all of those things into one.

And it was then captured in a five minute video that has gone viral around the sports world. The number of times it's been shared and viewed and the reaction, obviously very heartfelt and a lot of the emotions that you're expressing to us now. But in that moment, how did you keep it together?

I think I would have been a basket case. I don't know. People have asked me that a lot. For some reason, I've been fortunate enough to talk about unfortunate moments.

And I mean, I don't know why. I guess the only analogy I can make is that I've sadly I've given I think seven eulogies. There's nothing about when you walk up there and stand there and you're trying to take care of the person that you love so much and make sure that everybody is OK in the audience that you become.

It's an out of body experience. That's all I can say to you as a fellow broadcaster. When I went up there, I just I knew what I wanted to say. It was it was my truth. And I didn't I put it together probably 48 hours ago in my head. I walked through it a couple of times and we had so much other activity going on with our broadcast. I remember at one point I was like, oh, man, do I have this?

Am I going to do this? And then when it happened, I mean, I know you've probably felt this. Sometimes it's just an out of body experience. Yes, I cannot believe. First of all, the fact that you and I are chatting right now is mind boggling me. I was on a radio station in Saskatchewan.

They're talking about snow reports. And then they came to me to talk about it. It's I've heard from people across every sport that you can imagine. And it's it's felt like a kind of a living lake. But I will tell you that it's the greatest blessing I've ever had. I hadn't didn't sleep last night. I'm on zero fumes. You're the last human I'm going to talk to today.

Wow. And I just I've been able to tell so many people that I love them. And it's been an unbelievable feeling. I've had people reaching out from first year of the Coyotes to when I was with the Arizona basketball team a thousand years ago and on and on.

Coaches I've never met. And I've been able to just tell them what they meant to me. And I think that's a great gift. I feel like like I said last night or tried to say that it's up to us to find something good out of every story, no matter how it ends. And my personal joy is what has happened today. I don't know how I do not know how that happened, but I'm glad it happened.

I'm not not for me. I'm glad for the sport. I'm glad for the people in the sport and I'm glad for the people here in Arizona.

They're really hurting right now. And maybe that gave them something that they could find their own joy. And that's you know what? If that's what was asked of me somehow from some other power, I'm very happy to have been the vehicle for that. What is your sense about the fans and how or if they will support the Coyotes when they move to Salt Lake in light of them chanting Salt Lake sucks last night?

You know what? I think this is a unique place in that experience because of what happened with Winnipeg. And when the Jets came here, it was brutal.

But this was before social media and just the dawn of the Internet age, really, when you think about it. But as the years went on, Winnipeg crept back up into the conversation. There was talk that the Coyotes were going back and many people thought they were. And all of us here were under attack from Winnipeg. And then when the Winnipeg did come back and we went to play there, I mean, they even booed Shane Doan. I think Peyote fans got a heavy dose of that. And I think their angst is more directed at the current ownership right now. I don't think they're going to be taking it out on Salt Lake.

I just don't feel that. I think it's because of the uniqueness of that experience. I know one thing I learned is I was very young in my broadcasting career, but I watched these reporters come chase the Coyotes for a year. They followed the team like it was their beat. So they were flying from Winnipeg to Phoenix, meeting us on the road. And it was a team that they had lost. And those guys were angry and they had a chip on their shoulder and I got to know them over the years. And when they got their team back to Winnipeg, I specifically went up to the press box and went to both of them and said, I want you to know that I know what you were experiencing and now realize it. And if I wasn't cool to use that, I'm sorry, but I should have understood.

But I know now. And I'm glad you got a team back. So I think I hope fans here in Arizona, they've got other things to be angry about right now. It's not Salt Lake and they just want to keep the hope of hockey alive. And I think they're very skeptical of the current ownership that will bring them.

So that'll be the big the big angst for them to roll with for a while. Todd Walsh is with us from the desert where the Coyotes will soon be departing after nearly three decades, an emotional couple of days. Even if people knew it was coming, it's after hours with Amy Lawrence here on CBS Sports Radio.

Todd, this is a little bit off the beaten path. But how cool is it to have another Doan part of the organization? He's the one that a lot of people are going to for reaction, considering that his dad is one of the greatest players in franchise history. He is. He's the face of it. He's the first family of hockey in Arizona.

And if you had called 10 minutes earlier, I was at Shane's house with a little gathering of longtime Coyote employees. And it was one of the coolest nights I've ever experienced really in covering sports. And I've covered every single sport.

I've been a rights holder for every sport you can imagine. But to see Josh Doan do what he did on that night in front of his family, it was it was remarkable. It was electric. And I think nobody at that point thought that this was going to happen. So we were all sitting here thinking, oh, my God, we're going to be covering this again.

He's just like his dad and all these things. And all of a sudden it's over. And there he was deflecting and talking about this this titanic change. And I actually had seen on the intermission last night and we were in a commercial break and he said, don't you dare make me cry. No, no, I won't. And we came out of the break with a soundbite of Josh talking just like Shane.

And he just punched me in the shoulder and I said, I'm sorry, but look at what you look at what you've created here. And the people in Salt Lake, they're getting a very special person and a special family. And it's not going to take them long to figure it out. And everybody here in Arizona knows it. And that's the hard part. Now, as I said it on the air, maybe I shouldn't have lost sight. But the saddest thing for me was that the Doan family was leaving that building when the doors closed and lights went out.

That was it for hockey here and at that level. And that just breaks my heart. It's a legacy that he's like a man without a country right now, Shane Doan is. But Josh will carry that torch. I can imagine he's so incredibly proud. And honestly, Todd, I didn't know that he would get the banner that had his number on it. At least the franchise allowed him to take that home. Well, it was thrown out and discarded and somebody found it.

Oh, no way. There's a horrible story that I don't have all the details, but when they left Glendale, they left and the banner got pulled down and got put in a storage case. And then I believe it was discarded and somebody found it and it was cool enough to say, I've got this.

And they gave it back to him. But, you know, I go back to the night that things raised and I, you know, it was just a celebration. Like I'm like anything I've ever seen in Arizona sports history and for the right person.

And like I said, the right family. Wow. It's so emotional. I almost feel badly asking you more questions, but if you don't mind, just just one more. What has it meant to you to be part of this family as you talked about so eloquently on your your goodbye last night? It's the story arc of my my adult life. As I said, it gave me a purpose and professionally and personally the best friends I've ever had in my life has come from the sport of hockey. I learned so much about just proper respect and the reverence for everybody in and around this game because it comes to you if they see you living that life, which is what I was doing. And I, I just wanted people to know that the sport breeds a special type of person.

And I'm so fortunate to have been a part of that. I didn't play hockey. I played street hockey. My parents couldn't afford skates and equipment. It was my lifelong dream to do it. I didn't. I had a couple of twists and turns in my career.

I never thought I would go back to sports and somehow some way the hockey team appears in the desert and they want to be on a rock station. And I'm sitting there. I mean, are you kidding me? That's somebody's controlling that.

And that's in another world. And I was just I was given an opportunity and I didn't want to screw it up. And one of my closest friends who won a Stanley Cup and I just looked up to so much said to me one day. It's the best advice I ever got. And sadly, I had to speak this at his eulogy. He said to me, make yourself invaluable. Don't ever let them imagine what it's like to not have you covering their team and being a part of their story presentation.

Don't let them ever think that it's OK to not have you around. And I took that to heart. I finally probably grew up enough to understand that.

And I'm sitting here talking to you about it 28 years later. I hope it's not over. I don't want to walk away from sport of hockey. But we'll see. I guess it's up to the hockey gods.

I presume. But it's been an amazing journey and I don't regret any of it. Todd Walsh, any franchise would be fortunate to have you tell their story, considering the history that you have seen and absorbed and the passion and the emotion with which you identify, not to mention the family that you speak of and that you've created. Find Todd on Twitter at Todd Walsh and the video. You need to watch it because it was in the moment. It was perfectly delivered and the poor guy has not slept since because he's going to need a new phone.

He's celebrity status now. We appreciate I know it's been a really long couple of days, very emotional couple of days. But thank you so much for sharing not just your story, but speaking for the fans in Arizona. Todd, it's been good to connect with you.

Well, from Rochester, New York, to Scottsdale, Arizona, to you, I really appreciate this. It means the world that you you guys reached out and I wouldn't have ever imagined that happening. So I'm honored by that. And thank you for those words.

You want to talk about emotional. He's a guy who's been through everything with this franchise. And I so appreciate Todd sharing from the heart as he did last night. But even more so now that he's exhausted and the news is final. And so you hear the impact it can have. He's an employee, but he's also someone who's been there for the long haul. And that really does set the stage for more of you to respond to our question about the most painful or even nonsensical relocations in sports history.

Whatever one sticks with you. And we're getting a bunch of answers on Twitter. A-LOL radio on our Facebook page, too.

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This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. That is the voice of Coyote's rookie Josh Doan, whose dad and whose family are synonymous with the franchise. But as we just heard Todd Walsh describe it, he's like a man without a country because this is what he's known. And now he, along with the rest of the Coyotes, or maybe we should call them the unknown or unnamed franchise, will be on the move to Salt Lake City. It's not the first time a rumored move has been out there but it is the first time it's been official. So it's the Smith family that buys the franchise from Alex Morello. Morello was speaking out on Burns and Gamble on AZ Sports, Arizona Sports 98.7 about his plans in the future to restore hockey to the desert.

My intent is to use the full five years and not only that but work with the NHL. You will see tomorrow during the interviews and the statement that we're going to have with Gary Bivman and myself. You'll see the commitment from Gary, how important it is to him because he believes in Arizona and he's right. He's been here for 20 years constantly advocating for the hockey team. And he's told me when I first bought the team that this is his dream and he's had so much invested.

We are all committed on getting this thing done. And I don't know how that plays. The idea that he would bring a different franchise in when he had one and couldn't ever find a legit place for them.

I don't know, it's convoluted, it's complicated and it's always emotional. But he tells Arizona Sports 98.7 that he's committed to that and certainly that could end up happening. If they can find a place for them to play. But then what do the fans do? Support the new team? Support the team that moved? It's a little bit like we were talking about with the Cleveland Browns. Their team had moved to Baltimore. But then, as we now know, a couple decades later, the new franchise that moved into Cleveland and took that space.

Well, they got all the passion, all the energy. I don't want to say it's forgotten because it's not. But there's certainly a generation of Browns fans that didn't live through it, know nothing about it. Or if they know about it, it's more like history, like the Ernest Biner fumble.

It's just a part of the history that you can't really emotionally identify with. And it's also that they kept the Browns history. Because the NFL did that and instead of all of that history that went to Baltimore, it didn't. It's like it never happened. Baltimore just came out of thin air and they just emerged in 1996.

They were never there before. So it's funky that they were able to move the Browns and then re-emerge and they had all the history. So there's just a few years where there was no team. So it's almost like you fell asleep and it was like, oh, they just didn't play those couple of years? Yeah. They didn't play for, I think it was three years. Okay.

Also, the Bill Belichick part of their history remains. Yes. Did you hear what Bill Belichick said about how he's never had a cup of coffee in his life? I did. I don't understand how that's possible.

I don't either. Especially not working in football or in coaching. Well, that's the thing.

Football coaches are synonymous for three hours of sleep or waking up at four o'clock in the morning and all this stuff and sleeping in the office. At no point you were ever exhausted and you said, you know what, just give it to me. You gave me the cup.

It smells awful. Give it to me. I don't care. Magic sauce here. How is that possible?

I don't know. I know that he said in that same interview, he has tea, he has other drinks. It's not that he doesn't have caffeine. So I get that aspect of it.

But coffee's the one that's most readily available wherever you go. And it just seems odd. He's not always available. It's also odd that, I mean, someone his age, at no point you were never even curious to give it a shot. Curious. It's just odd to me.

It is. But that's also because I live off coffee. Crazy enough, though, I have received a bunch of tweets from people who say, Me too. I've never had coffee either. I don't like the smell of it. I don't like hot beverage. Blah, blah, blah. So there's no way that it represents the majority.

Because, in fact, I was telling you from, actually, I don't think you and I were working together last week. From the National Coffee Association, the recent stats indicate that two-thirds of Americans had coffee in the last 24 hours. 75% of Americans have had coffee in the last week. So it's a very small minority that would then say, I've never had coffee. Like, for instance, my brother, he goes through these stages where he kicks it. Because he feels like he drinks too much of the creamer, and that ends up costing him calories and sugar.

So he'll go without it for stretches, but then always comes back to it. He just doesn't drink it black, so he'll cut it out every now and then. But the number of people who would say they've never even tried a cup of coffee, that's got to be a very slim minority.

It's the never. Because my brother doesn't drink coffee at all. He's tried it. He's had it. He just doesn't like it.

He has no interest in it. And he got rid of caffeine, no soda, so he's just straight without caffeine now. So I understand the idea of you don't drink coffee. It's the I've never tried coffee is the part that I'm struggling with. Exactly. Good for you. I wish I never tried coffee either. What?

How would you survive this business? I don't even know how I would do it. I get it. But I mean, if if I was able to stay awake and not have the caffeine, that would be that's the ultimate.

That's what you want. Jay drinks soda, but that's even worse for you. Well, coffee is actually not bad for you. Coffee has got many antioxidants and healthy benefits. There are many studies that show that consumption of coffee in moderation is linked.

Right. But I mean, like anything, coffee in moderation is linked to actually health benefits like increased metabolism. The antioxidants, all that jazz. It's actually really good for you.

Yeah. I mean, like I said, in moderation, when you abuse anything and the caffeine is not good for your body. The soda stops working to the soda.

I kicked a while back. I had too much of that for a long time, too. But I know coffee. I'm like the only thing I've done is over the years. And I guess this is when you drink enough coffee.

I used to was almost like like everybody. You put a little you put a lot of cream. You put a lot of sugar when you're first starting to drink it, I guess.

And it just kind of cuts back. I haven't put cream or sugar in a while. Now I'm just black coffee.

You just drink black? Wow. Yeah. So at some point, like you just kind of like, just give me the coffee.

So there's that. There's like stages you go through. It depends on how much you drink. Well, my stage now, and this is because I went through a stretch where I was trying to get healthier. And so I was cutting out not all sugar, but a lot of sugar. And I was also cutting out more dairy because I love dairy. And so instead, I started drinking almond milk. I don't drink it like with my cereal or my oatmeal or in a glass, but I put it in my coffee.

And a friend introduced me to oat milk, which I actually prefer the taste of. And then I do just a little bit of half and half. So I do my coffee, the almond or oat milk and a little half and half.

And it's actually not bad. And I don't put sugar in it. I use Truvia or I don't use anything at all. So I don't, mine is as low sweet as possible or low sugar as possible.

Yeah, I cut all that stuff out of there. And I haven't had milk in, I honestly have not decades. I can't live without milk. I love milk. No interest in milk.

When I was a kid, loved it. I haven't had a cup, a glass of milk in got to be 30 years. Well, that's why I've never broken a bone. I'm pretty sure because I've, I've been drinking milk my whole life. Actually, milk has great qualities in terms of like a recovery from a major athletic event, like a half marathon or. Really? Yeah, it does. In fact, after. Can you like wait a day? Because that would sound awful if you're sweaty and hot and drink milk.

Oh, see, I think it sounds delicious. So when I used to play. That was a bad choice. When I played college basketball, we practiced in a gymnasium, an arena that was right across from the, what did you say? The college, it wasn't the cafeteria, it was like a snack shop. And so every time we got done practicing, I would run over to the snack shop and get a large, and I mean large cup of iced milk. Oh, so good. So good. It's my favorite thing. I still, in fact, I went biking. I biked on Thursday evening and as my reward, my treat, I got to drink a glass of milk and a couple pieces of chocolate.

Delicious. How about chocolate milk? Yeah, I don't like it as much. I actually prefer the taste of milk and if I could drink two percent all the time, I would. I mostly drink one percent, but. Is there a real difference between the two?

Yeah, there is. Whole milk and well, skim milk's like water. I can't, I don't drink skim milk anymore, but one percent I can deal with. I just love the richness of whole milk or two percent milk, but it's a lot more. It's natural fat and sugar, but it's a lot more than. No, no, the whole milk. Yeah, I remember there being, again, it's been a long time, but I remember there being a difference.

I didn't know there was much of a difference between the one and the two. But again, I'm not a milk guy, so I'm not going anywhere near it. You're not a milk guy. No, you gave me a glass of milk. It's a drink and I'd be like, please. Milk was a bad choice. Exactly.

I would not be able to do it at all. All right, coming up, some of your responses to our show question, the most painful relocation in sports history or maybe the most nonsensical franchise move on Twitter. A-LOL radio on our Facebook page. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence.

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This is after hours with Amy Lawrence. What a combo. One of my favorite movies of all time, by the way, Sound of Music and Julie Andrews, but interspersed with the jilted fans in Cleveland who had the team leave out from under their noses. Though they did get football back and all their records in history three years later, I know that that's still one of the most painful sports franchise relocations in history.

Not to mention just weird and nonsensical. Nineteen ninety, what do you say, five? That hurts. I wonder if Bill Belichick has any special memories he'd like to share with us from that day. Probably not.

He doesn't seem to wax poetic very often. I appreciate the question. I really do. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence.

How in the world do you get by without coffee? Eight five five two one two four two two seven on Twitter at Amy after hours. That's our show Twitter. We're getting a bunch of new fans, which is awesome. Thank you for the follows.

And also on our Facebook page, we'll get to your answers coming up. Mike is in New Jersey. Mike, what do you think about the coyotes? You know, Amy, I got to apologize. I didn't get I didn't get to turn on your show until three o'clock and I fell asleep. And so I finally woke up. I couldn't put you up on my radio in my car.

I got a brand new car, so I can't really say too much about the coyotes. A possible move. You know what I'm saying? Well, not possible. It's happening now. OK.

I remember when the Cardinals left and went to Arizona and that was not that was not good for the St. Louis fans. They've been there for years. Right.

I was trying to pick up other things you talked about. I am a milk drinker, skim milk only. And I drink 24 hours of coffee a day. I start work at 12 midnight.

I went till six or seven o'clock in the morning and then I got my day free. Nice. And I'm one of your number one fans. I was the one that foolishly let a swear word out. I meant to say crap and I didn't. And you cut me off. No, I didn't cut you off.

I did not do it. Number one. Number two, Jay. If Jay does not dump that off the air, Jay gets fired.

So Jay has no choice but to do that. Well, me and Mike turned 63 on Sunday. My wife died 23 years ago when I was 40 and I went on the sports radio a little bit in region area in the Allentown area and Lehigh Valley. And I was listening to you back in 2004 or wherever you were. I was in the sports radio and I started following you again in 2012. And so I'm still one of your number two fan after your mom. Sorry guys.

Even ahead of my husband? Oh, well now you're right. Now I'm number three. That's okay.

I can live with that, ma'am. I was at the Sixers game Thursday night by the Miami bench. Sixers really took care of me.

And it was a great game, of course, as you saw. And I'm going to be in New York Sunday or Saturday for the game. But I'm on my seventh day.

It would be my seventh day of celebrating my birthday and I'm exhausted. It's a great week. I think I'm going to make it to New York. I'm going to be at the draft next week out in Detroit.

I'm going to take two or three days to get there. I should be on TV. I'm working on my appearance. I'm working on my appearance so that I can do some TV work. They haven't seen me in years.

They've been waiting for me for years. What kind of TV work are we talking about? Well, this time he hung up on himself. I didn't do that. Did he say TV work? TV work. I've been waiting for him.

Like as the number one fan? You made it sound like he was going to do some sort of presentation. Oh. He kind of lost me there. I do appreciate that he called up and just admitted right away, I have no idea what you're talking about. Dear.

Oh dear. Alright, we are getting a bunch of your answers, but the question out there, and we will let you respond in either manner, either the most painful relocation in sports history, or the one that just made no sense. The franchise move that was nonsensical in every way. Maybe it still irks you. Maybe it still bothers you.

Maybe you refuse to let it go. Like the Seattle Supersonics fans. And I understand why. They were purchased by an Oklahoma City business owner, and he immediately moved the team to Bricktown in OKC. How you feeling about that Seattle?

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