After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 4

Good morning to you. It's Tuesday. It's not Monday. It's Tuesday. We're glad that you're joining us. Better late than never. Actually, I'm always thrilled to welcome you to this hour of the show because it's the last hour of the show, which means just a few more minutes until my workday is done. And this time of the year, they are doozies. Every now and then, though, we get someone who's so brilliant on social and who is pretty sure that we only work four hours a day. I don't even bother to respond anymore.

It's so ludicrous and redonkulous. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. We're live from the Rocket Mortgage Studios. Whether you're looking to purchase a new real home or refinance yours, Rocket Mortgage can help you get there.

For home loan solutions that fit your life, Rocket can. It's the time of the week when I start making up words. Well, it's the hour of the week when I start making up words and I start to slur my speech. So just nod and smile. That's it. That's all you gotta do. Just ignore me and pretend as though I'm speaking perfectly with impeccable diction.

To do that, I have to go a whole lot more slowly. It's just it's the end of the football weekend and our second show of the work week. And usually Tuesday is a recovery day, so I'm looking forward to that. Got a couple of appointments later on Tuesday and actually going to talk to Gene Steratore. So it may be the end of the football weekend, but the longtime NFL referee and longtime Big Ten college basketball official, we've got a date. Gene's agreed to join us on the show because of all the questions about roughing the passer primarily, but just in general, he's fun and we don't want to go too long without having Gene on the show. And to his credit, he always tells me whenever you call, I will answer.

And he has agreed to be part of the show yet again, which is cool. So that's a little bit later on Tuesday. Again, it's after hours on CBS Sports Radio and on Twitter. If you want to vote for TD of the Week, that's easy to do.

ALOL Radio on our Facebook page too. Just a real quick thank you for all of your kind words about my mom's birthday. I think she looks fantastic. But beyond that, and I don't know what you're supposed to look like in your mid 70s, but beyond that, she is still vibrant and lively and goofy and fun. And she's still making an impact daily on so many young people because she's still teaching math full time at a high school in the Houston area. Every time I show up at her school, which I do whenever I'm there just to take her lunch or to visit some of the teachers that she has introduced me to in the past. Whenever I meet some of her students or I sit in on her class and I have the opportunity to tell them that she was my math teacher in high school, they always do double takes.

Some of them fall out of their chairs when I say that. But yeah, my mom was just getting started. Teaching was her second career. She had been a geologist and worked on dams, like actual dams before that. And then when my brother and I became junior high and high school age, she decided that she would become a teacher and help save on the tuition. And so she just up and taught herself how to become an educator.

She did have to go through some classes, but the math she already knew, she'd been using it in her first career. Yeah, mom's brilliant. And I like to point out to her all the time that she's a smarty pants. She's constantly learning. She does calculus for fun.

I know, I know. And she's always available to listen, mostly to me. She's dedicated to excellence still at this age. She's also dedicated to running my life still at this age. Every now and then I have to tell her, mom, I'm an adult. I don't have to listen to you.

I don't have to do what you tell me. But most of the time she still has the best wisdom and the best counsel and advice. And she is kind and she's compassionate. Oh my goodness, this woman loves cows. I don't know how that happened. Maybe moving to Texas in 2013, but my mother loves cows.

I tell her all the time, when you retire, lease a plot of land, get yourself a mama and a baby and you would be so happy. I don't know what I would do with them. I mean, they're cows, mom. They essentially need to eat. They need some land to walk around on. They need you to be nice to them.

That's it. Give them some names and they can be your pets. It'll be fun. She loves cows. Every time I go visit, she has to point out all the new cows and the old cows and just the cows in her area.

So yes, my cow loving mama just had a birthday. And if you haven't seen our latest photo, it comes from early September. It's on Twitter, ALawRadio, and I appreciate all your kind words. A lot of fun to hear from so many of you. And also thank you for the compliments.

Yes, she is the best. It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. Monday Night Football wrapping up week seven in the NFL.

And man, there was a lot going on at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro. We finally found out that Mac Jones would be the starter for the Patriots, but it did not last long. A three and out, a three and out, an interception early in the second quarter and lickety split.

No one says that except for me just right now because it's Tuesday morning. Bailey Zappi, the rookie, was back on the field running the New England offense. Myers split right, Thorpe in left, Stevenson, or rather Harris in the backfield with a play fake to end. Zappi dropped back, he throws a low ball left, wide open Jokobi Myers who makes a twisting diving catch and squirms into the end zone. Touchdown Patriots.

Look at his place. It feels like AFC divisional round against Baltimore. Stevenson with the red gloves and red shoes. Single setback behind Zappi. Takes the snap and gives. Ramadi runs it back. He runs it to the end zone.

Untouched as the Patriots take the lead. Zappi just walks over to the goal line to shake his hand like he's been doing this for six years. Don't worry, be Zappi. I can't help it. Every single time I hear his name, that's what comes to mind is the Bobby McFerrin song. I mean it's better that we get the actual music than me trying to sing it out loud. You know, see what I mean?

It's better that he sings it. Wait, you can't stop there. I need to hear the punchline or whatever it's called.

The hook. In every life we have some trouble. When you worry you make it double. Don't worry. Be Zappi. See?

It fits so perfectly. Anyway, Bailey Zappi put a charge into that fan base. Put a charge into the fans that were there at Gillette Stadium. As you hear with Bob Sozzi and Scott Zolack on Patriots radio.

It was short lived. That was it for offense. Those two touchdowns on back to back drives in the second quarter.

Then it didn't matter who was the quarterback. Although I suppose you can't blame Mac Jones for the fact that Zappi fumbled before the half was over leading to a Bears field goal. And then he had two interceptions in the late stages of the game.

So last two opportunities probably out of hand at that point. Ultimately though he ends up with three turnovers. Mac Jones has the early interception. The quarterback change is made. According to Bill Belichick, he actually intended to put Mac back out there in this game. But once it got out of hand, he didn't think it was fair.

Didn't think it was worth it. Right? Make sense of that if you will. This is more about the Bears than it is about the Patriots. But because the Patriots did the ol' QB swap in the second quarter. There are a lot of questions there and we'll let you hear from Belichick coming up. The Bears briefly lost the lead.

And I mean briefly. Once Ramondre Stevenson got into the end zone on that second Patriots drive in the second quarter. That second Patriots score I should say in the second quarter. The Bears found another gear. And they scored on five consecutive possessions from the end of the second quarter all the way through the fourth quarter.

This was a no doubter ultimately on offense and on defense. In the gun. Trips to the right. Snap. Blitzes on. Pockets tight. Family zappy tip. Intercepted Kyler Gordon.

Down the right side. 30, 20, 10 and shoved out of bounds. Kyler Gordon with his first NFL interception.

Hopefully one of many more. Jeff Doniak with the calls on Bears radio. Yeah once you kind of watch the ebbs and flows of this game.

It wasn't real competitive. The Patriots only score in the second quarter and they only do it with those first two drives after Bailey Zappi replaces Mac Jones. Otherwise it's Bears early and it's Bears often. They held the Pats scoreless in the second half while they were scoring on five consecutive drives. And man what a game for guys like Roquan Smith. 12 tackles and a sack.

And then Kyler Gordon who gets his first career interception. Impressive the way that the Bears were able to stop the run. Now obviously once the Pats got behind they put Zappi in the game. They were trying to throw a little more. But there wasn't a whole lot of room for Stevenson when they would hand him the ball.

It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. Something else that just was so obvious as we're watching this game. The Bears were able to push the Patriots around on the offensive line for sure. The fact that they were able to clear the space for their guys to run. Justin Fields the number of first downs he picked up himself with his legs. The Bears had 11 first downs in this game. They were 11 for 18 I think but through three quarters were 10 for 15.

That's a really impressive clip. 243 yards rushing and it wasn't just one guy or two guys. Fields actually led them in rushing but David Montgomery and Khalil Herbert even Dante Pettis. Being able to hand the ball to different guys and show different looks behind that offensive line. It may be simple.

It may be even boring. It's not flashy like a Josh Allen or a Patrick Mahomes. Throwing the ball up and down the field.

Chuck and Duck. Even Bailey Zappi who's got an arm and loves to throw the ball. But if you can run the ball the way the Bears can. If you can run the ball the way the Ravens can. If you can run the ball the way the Browns can.

I don't know why you'd ever get away from it. We know the Raiders can run the ball. The Falcons want to run the ball. Derrick Henry, the Titans, they want to run the ball. I mean there are some teams that are really damn good at running the ball and the Bears are one of them.

And I think you should just do it until teams figure out a way to stop you. But in this game Patriots could not. They were getting pushed around on the line. 243 yards rushing and it helps when you've got a defense that comes up with four takeaways. Those three interceptions huge for Matt Eberfluse and the Bears.

The one Brisker had was pretty amazing. I mean that was a really good play for him. That concentration.

Get his feet in bounce. That was excellent. And then really the other two interceptions were tips. There were some tips there. But the one that Gordon had, I think it was maybe tipped twice. He had to tip it to himself there. And then the return. He did what we did. Took it up the sidelines.

Did a nice job with that. But that fosters confidence. The ability to take the ball away.

I think that's a big part of winning football. We played a whole complete game from the first quarter to the fourth quarter. So we keep rolling like this.

Everybody keeps doing their job. We're just getting warmed up. Building our chemistry up and then we're just going to keep going. That's just playing complimentary football. So offense, defense, special teams. The defense gave us takeaways and we always talk about plus two with the turnover differential. So defense did a great job with that.

Special teams. We had a few good returns. In the first half, we had a good field position pretty much every drive.

So definitely proud of everybody the way they executed it. It was the type of game that can be a confidence builder. And for the Chicago Bears, who now have the same record as the Green Bay Packers in the NFC North, this is a big deal. Justin Fields is still getting acclimated to the new system, new coaches, new schemes, yada, yada, yada. But this is a strong game for him and a game that I think they can look back on and go, OK, on the road against a quality opponent, against a coach that very often has his way or can scheme relatively easily against young QBs. The Bears hadn't beaten the Patriots in a while. This is a big deal for them, potentially a statement for them. Now, maybe it wouldn't have been the same thing for the Pats, though you can't sneeze at wins these days in the NFL. But for the Bears, for Matt Eberfluss, for Justin Fields, for that group to get a victory like this with a convincing win on the road, to score on five consecutive drives, to have four takeaways.

That's massive for them as they try to build a program, a winning culture and a winning program in Chicago. But, of course, all the talk on this Tuesday morning will be about the Patriots QB situation. Bill Belichick is here to answer all your questions, however succinctly. I know how interested you are on that subject. Very interested. Thank you for understanding. Thank you for recognizing that the world wants to know. You'll hear from Bailey, Mack and Bill coming up next.

Good morning to you. Vote for TD of the Week on Twitter, ALawRadio or on our Facebook page. We've also got the Colts making a decision to bench their veteran QB. And it just kind of led me down the rabbit hole of the weird and wacky and wild QB situations we've got around the NFL now. We're jamming it all in and jamming up to the top of the hour. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence, CBS Sports Radio.

You are listening to the After Hours podcast. We're 18 minutes into the game, and the Patriots have just made a quarterback change, and Bailey Jaffe is in there. First and ten pitcher at 45, Jackie at quick runs, right throw, belt-hide catch on the hash mark.

49 of New England. The tight end, Jonny Smith hit him right in the bread gasket, right in the belt buckle. Maybe the most excited I've seen the fan base for a four-yard completion. But, you know, there was a lot of talk because Bailey Jaffe had played so well over the last couple weeks. And so, Mac Jones come back, make that ill-advised interception, go back to the young guy and see if we can keep that momentum from the last couple weeks.

This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Kevin Harlan and Kurt Warner on Westwood 1 as Bailey Jaffe enters the game and instantly lights up Gillette Stadium. Though the momentum was relatively short-lived after back-to-back touchdown drives, that was it for the Patriots offense outside of three more turnovers. And Bailey Jaffe knows that he's got to take these opportunities and clean up his act. He's got to take care of the football, too. Got to get better. Can't fall off like, you know, like I did. I got to make some throws.

Got to make better decisions on certain things. And, you know, it's a good thing about having another week, get back at it tomorrow, watch film tomorrow, get ready for next week. Earlier, we dropped in the exchange from Monday Night Mannings on ESPN2. Jay, I don't know if you still have that. They had comedian Bill Burr on. And this is after, so this would have been third quarter, it was after Bill Belichick had replaced Mac Jones with Bailey Jaffe. And Bill makes this comment about what the cameras kept showing on the sidelines.

I'm just glad I don't have to make that decision. Can they stop showing sad Mac Jones on the sidelines? They get it. He got taken out of the game. My God.

They were, too. And you could never accuse Mac of not caring. The poor guy, he couldn't sit down. He could not relax. He was just wandering around on the sidelines.

Can they stop showing sad Mac Jones? I guess at some point he took his helmet off, but for the most part, he was willing Bill Belichick to put him back in. As though Belichick was going to forget about him if he sat down, so he had to keep wandering around. Now, interestingly enough, Belichick did say after the game, his plan was to reinsert Mac Jones as the quarterback. But it turned out that the game got away from them.

He would have gone back in. The score got out of hand. So, I didn't think that was the right thing to do.

Alright, so that answers that question. What about Bailey and Mac and the plan going into the game? Did they know about it? Did they recognize that they were both going to play, or was it kind of up in the air? I told the quarterbacks that we were going to play both of them.

Short and to the point. If you're not paying attention when Belichick starts talking, you're going to miss the meat of the matter. It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. So, was Mac Jones benched? That's not what it was, but you can write whatever you want to write.

That's not what it was. Well, I'm glad he includes that, because have you seen what's trending everywhere? The B word is everywhere with Mac Jones.

It's everywhere. It is the line of Tuesday morning, Mac Jones gets benched. In fact, if you're just reading headlines, Matt Ryan, Mac Jones, same situation, just got benched.

So, what is the plan then moving forward? Who is the starting quarterback now? We just finished the game. Oh my gosh. I should have known better than to expect any type of intel from Bill Belichick.

What do I look like? Football coach? Not a doctor.

No, that doesn't have anything to do with it. You're just wrong. Like all of you, you're just wrong.

Jay's in there, you should see the evil smile on his face, dialing up all these Bill Belichick drops. That's not my job. No days off. No days off. Day by day. I forgot about that one.

It applies again now, does it not? Day by day. Since, once again, we don't know who the Patriots will be starting at quarterback moving forward.

But we certainly know that Mac Jones is emotionally tied to the answer. We had a good plan, as always, just to go throughout the week and figure out what we want to do for the game. Coach Belichick was very good about communication and felt like I was good to play.

We had a good plan there and just obviously didn't play well enough there. Definitely wanted to play better and I just got to do better at my job. That's all it comes down to and that's all I can control.

Honestly, we got a good chance here to go against the Jets and that's kind of what I'm already focused on. Like I said, I'm going to do my best to put my best foot forward. I've been in this situation before and I'm just going to try and help the team.

Whatever my role is, I'll be ready and I'll give it 100 percent. I do appreciate that Mac is saying all the right things. Obviously, his body language, his facial expressions communicate that this is painful for him. But no less painful than, say, Mitch Trubisky or Matt Ryan or any of the guys who've gotten injured to, I mean, literally painful for Tua, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold. This is life as a quarterback in the NFL for the majority of these guys. I still say Mac Jones is a better option. But I'm not Bill Belichick.

I don't make that call. But the reason I believe Mac is a better option, he was just starting to find a rhythm and a groove. In fact, he played some really strong football right before he got hurt. I'd have to go back and remember the game that he got hurt, but it seemed like even he got hurt the very end of a game. And that had been a really strong performance for him. He's got more experience.

I get it. Bailey's got a big arm and likes to throw the football and he's fearless and he kind of plays on the edge. He reminds me a little bit of, I'll say, a Russell Westbrook in his prime where it can be dynamic and amazing and incredible, but can also go horribly wrong. He's got to find that space as a rookie QB getting acclimated to the NFL where he's willing to fight for the next play, right? He's willing to eat the play, eat the ball, go to the next snap.

It's not life or death with every snap. And there's a massive learning curve for rookie QBs. Most of the veteran quarterbacks I talk to will tell you it takes at least a year, that in your second year you make great strides, but a lot of times there's just as much of an increase and a jump from year two to year three. Max Jones is ahead of the curve. He's ahead of Bailey when it comes to that. I still say they're better off starting with the run game, right? They've got some really solid running backs. Ramondre Stevenson is turning into a guy that can be the feature back. Turnovers have been a problem, but that's the case for any quarterback, any offense.

There was a lot of energy, though. And isn't that what the Steelers have done? They've decided that they'd rather go with energy and allow Kenny Pickett to make his mistakes, allow Pickett to get out there and get the reps and kind of learn on the job because of the life and the energy and just the fresh look that he brings. So who knows what Belichick will do, but according to him, this was the plan. He's never going to tell us when Bailey Zappe was coming in the game. I'm quite certain he didn't plan it ahead of time that it would happen after the third drive.

There's no way. He was looking for a jolt and he got it. He got a jolt with the offense and then so rookies giveth and they take it away.

Again, why I would go with Mac. He's a little steadier and he does have the ability to do everything that's asked of him. Although, why is Mac Jones your feature running back in the first quarter? What was that about? I don't know. Maybe he's showing off the fact that his ankle is fine.

I didn't need to see Mac Jones running that much in the first quarter. You're not Justin Fields, for heaven's sakes. So, all right then. It's yet another mystery. A Bill Belichick created mystery. And if you think he's going to give away the ending, well, think again. Belichick operates on a need-to-know basis and he does not think we need to know. I told you everything I know.

So not the truth ever. All right, we have major injury news from the NFL. We've also got a quarterback change that has nothing to do with injury.

And a little bit of a surprise, I think, on Monday as the Colts make the drastic move to go to an unproven QB themselves. Find your perfect fall suit with Indochino. Customize every detail of their seasonal designs for a one-of-a-kind look at a great price.

And get $50 off purchases of $399 or more at Indochino.com, promo code FallUpdate. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. You are listening to the After Hours podcast. It's a touchdown Tuesday on After Hours. To cast your vote for the TD of the Week, head to at After HoursCBS on Twitter.

Or give us a call at 855-212-4227. The Seattle Seahawks. First and ten toss to Walker. Goes right side, has a little running room. Parkinson out front. Here comes up the sideline. He's on the run, 40. Down to the 30. Are they going to catch him?

I don't think so. 15, 10, 5, touchdown Seahawks. 74 yards.

The Cincinnati Bengals. Burrow throws toward the left side. Back shoulder throw. Chase makes the catch. Cuts it into the field.

And the chase of Chase is unsuccessful. A 41-yard touchdown. The Bengals' fourth TD in four, first half drive.

The Las Vegas Raiders. First and ten on the Texans, 15. It's a late hand up to Jacobs. Huge hole up the middle, ten.

Cuts right side, five. Touchdown, Jacobs. The hot trick in the end zone. His third rushing touchdown of the day. The Tennessee Titans. Empty backfield on second and 13.

Ryan gets rid of it quickly. It's intercepted. 30, 40, 50, Adams 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, end zone. Touchdown Titans. Andrew Adams to the house. Mike Keith on Titans radio. Before I tell you the other candidates for TD of the week, let's do this. The defensive player of the week is sponsored by the Navy Federal Credit Union, who proudly serves the Armed Forces DOD veterans and their families. Their members are the mission.

Learn more at navyfederal.org. Not only does Adams have his first career pick six, the 76-yard variety, he also has ten tackles in that victory for the Titans over the Colts in the AFC South, a game that the Titans led wire to wire, also the game that hastened the benching of one Matt Ryan by the Indianapolis Colts. That happened on Monday. Congratulations to Andrew Adams on what was a milestone in his career. Titans have now won four straight games.

So you can vote for Adams, and his pick six is our TD of the week. You could also go with Josh Jacobs' third rushing touchdown of the half, second half. And on Raiders radio, it's Josh Horowitz.

Bengals radio is Dan Horton, Dave Lapham. Joe Burrow had 345 yards before they ever got to half, up and down the field with Jamar Chase. Of course, Tyler Boyd had the 60-yarder. And then Kenneth Walker, the rookie running back for the Seahawks, maybe one of the steals, quote, unquote, of the draft. 74-yard rushing touchdown, and man, the Seahawks can and will run the ball up the gut, in your face, down your throat.

So you can vote, oh, ha ha, that rhymed. You can vote for TD of the week on Twitter, ALawRadio, and also on our Facebook page, After Hours with Amy Lawrence. We had an opportunity to catch up with James Boyd, who covers the Colts for the athletic. And I talked to him about a lot of things, primarily Matt Ryan, Sam Ellinger.

Also, why isn't Jonathan Taylor getting more carries? For the entire interview, you're going to have to go to our podcast, After Hours, AmyLawrence.com, but his insight on the change at quarterback. And I started out by asking him whether or not this was a surprise to him, because admittedly, it caught me off guard. I did not expect it to happen this soon, if at all. I felt like, you know, at 33-1, the season is not completely lost. If they were like 1-6 or 2-5, then I would, you know, not be that surprised.

But I was pretty surprised to see it happen. But at the same time, I mean, I guess the Colts feel like they have to go in a new direction to see what they have, and then finally kind of fix this quarterback turnstile that they've had the last few years. In your opinion, watching Matt Ryan through these first seven weeks, what have been the major problems?

The biggest problem is probably no fault of his own. It's the offensive line. It is terrible. It's the highest paid offensive line in the league, but it's been, you know, well below average. And then I think he's compounded it with some really bad mistakes on his part, the Jacksonville game. I'm sorry, the Tennessee Titans game Sunday afternoon. His two interceptions were completely in my opinion, not completely his fault, but mainly his fault. There were two really bad throws. You cannot blame that on the offensive line.

You cannot, you know, make those plays here. Matt Ryan has been in the league for 15 years. And, you know, it seems like every week he was turning the ball over. Quite frankly, you know, 11 fumbles, nine interceptions, just nine touchdown passes. So he's only had one clean game this year without a turnover. So it just felt like every week you're just given the defense, the opposing defense that is, chances to just pounce all over you and make it even harder on a struggling offense.

Right. Matt Ryan leads the league with nine picks through seven games, but also has fumbled 11 times and has lost three of those. You're talking about double-figure turnovers. And again, while not everything can be blamed on him, certainly that's a lot for a team that is trying to get its head above water. James Boyd is with the athletic, covers the Colts on what's been, well, a fairly dramatic start to the season.

Now 3-3-1. It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. How much do you think that has to do with the shoulder injury, and how much do you think it has to do with them just needing a fresh look at the position?

I think it's the latter. You know, Frank Reich was immediately asked today after announcing that Matt Ryan had, you know, a grade two shoulder separation that he'd be out for a while. Hey, is this, you know, are you putting Sam in there just to be QB one to hold down that spot or is it his for the rest of the season? He said it's his for the rest of the season.

The injury had nothing to do with it. So it just felt like the wheels kind of came off in Tennessee Sunday. So I think from my perspective, it feels like kind of like a stain on Matt Ryan's career just because he was promised a lot of things when he came to Indianapolis. He's promised a good, you know, O-line, a good running game, and he's gotten neither. And like I said, it's just gotten worse when he makes the mistakes that he's made.

So they want to try something new. And it feels like, you know, if they things work out with Sam Ellinger and he balls out, you know, and have some miracle season, you found a new young quarterback. And if not, you're most likely having a top pick and you're going to find your new quarterback in the draft. What does he bring to the table?

Mobility. That's the biggest thing you've heard from every coach, the players. He can run a lot better than Matt Ryan, which will obviously help alleviate some of the pressure because the offensive line has been, you know, so weak. But I also think that, you know, fans have to, you know, kind of simmer down their expectations because he's like a new shiny toy, right?

You know, having seen him, he's going to do all these great things. And it's like he's never thrown, you know, a pass in an NFL game before, a real NFL game, regular season game. So I think there's going to be a lot of struggling, a lot of, you know, uphill battles. But again, you kind of just have to see what you got in house before you go shopping elsewhere for a quarterback. Knowing what we know of head coach Frank Reich, how difficult was this decision for him? Oh, really hard.

Frank Reich is a Grade A human being and Matt Ryan is as well, my interactions with both. So I know it had to be hard to tell him, hey, you know, this is no longer your team in a sense. And I said it earlier today, that was probably Matt Ryan's last start for the Colts unless he comes back and some other crazy injuries happen and he gets thrown right back in there.

I mean, things go the course that they do. That's it for him. You know, I mean, he'll probably be around and I'm sure he won't retire.

Like people are hoping he will save money. No, he'll be back to make his money. It's just I don't think he'll start for the Colts again for the rest of his career. Man, that was quick.

That was quick. The Matt Ryan era in Indianapolis. If Sam stays healthy, it's over. And think about the revolving door QB for the Colts the last five years. Andrew Luck. Then they went to Jacoby Brissett and Brian Hoyer started one game that year. Then it was Phillip Rivers. Then it was Carson Wentz. Then it was Matt Ryan. And now it's Sam Ellinger.

Wow. What are you, the Cleveland Browns? People get so bad at me, but it's just easy when it comes to the Cleveland Browns.

Or you could be the Washington commanders, right? Because they've got a revolving door quarterback now. The last few years, I guess ever since they traded Kirk Cousins, right? He signed with the Vikings.

They've had a revolving door as well. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. More of my conversation with James Boyd covering the Colts. You can find that on our podcast. It's posted every weekday morning.

It's the show in its entirety with fewer commercial breaks. I was jotting down notes about the quarterback situations in the NFL. It just blows me away after a spring in which there were all these major moves.

Most of them have not panned out, right? Matt Ryan to the Colts. That lasted not even half the season. Baker Mayfield.

I know this is the last big one. Baker Mayfield to the Panthers. That lasted, what, a month? Now he's hurt, and Steve Wilks says he's committing to P.J. Walker this week regardless. How about Mitch Trubisky to Pittsburgh?

And maybe it was only supposed to be a stopgap anyway, but probably longer than what he actually kept the job for. That didn't pan out. That was one of the earlier moves that was made in the quarterback market. Russell Wilson to Denver. Is it possible that the Broncos offense is worse this year than it was last year?

I test. You decide. Carson Wentz to Washington. He's not starting now either. He's hurt. Taylor Heinecky is back as the starter.

Why did Washington bother? I mean, the only major move that's really panning out right now, are you ready for this? Marcus Mariota in Atlanta. Geno Smith was already in Seattle, but certainly it was a move from Russ to Geno. And the Seahawks happen to be the most stable of the bunch. But think about the weird, wacky, and wild quarterback situations around the league. The Patriots, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappi, the Dolphins. They started three different quarterbacks.

All three of them have had to miss time with injuries. The Steelers. We've seen Trubisky, and then Pickett, and then back to Trubisky, and now back to Pickett. The Browns.

We know about that situation. They're waiting on Deshaun Watson. The Colts had Matt Ryan, now going to an unproven commodity in Sam Ellinger. The Jets. They start the season without their quarterback. They used Joe Flacco. Now they bring Zach Wilson back and their passing attack is nearly non-existent. The Broncos.

Yep. The Panthers. They've now started two different quarterbacks this year. They've got four quarterbacks. They're on their fourth guy. Matt Corral must be fit to be tied.

He would be starting right now if not for his injury in the preseason. But the Panthers are a disaster. They've had a revolving door at that position, too.

We just talked about it last week, didn't we, Jay? Going over the various, what have they been, eight starting quarterbacks for the Panthers? Since what?

Since Matt Ruhle? That was since McCaffrey was in the league. Oh, that's right. That's what brought it up.

That's right. We were talking about the number of quarterbacks that Christian McCaffrey had played with in Charlotte. The Dallas Cowboys.

There's, I mean, there's a, talk about a surprise, a revelation. They're in a really good spot. Dak goes out in week one. They win four in a row with Cooper Rush running the offense. And now Dak is back.

The Commandos, we talked about them. Carson Wentz now to Taylor Heinecke. The Saints. I mean, Jameis Winston is around. It's a good thing they have Andy Dalton, though, because Jameis has been out now for, what is it, a month?

The Niners. They tried. They tried to divest themselves of Jimmy Garoppolo. Kyle Shanahan tried to quit him. He couldn't. And now he's starting.

Oh, what a mess. I'm not kidding. The Seahawks may be the most stable quarterback situation this side of Buffalo in Kansas City. No one's worried about Justin Herbert. Derek Carr is still the starter. So there are a few stable positions, but I mean, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers is scuffling. It's after hours on CBS Sports Radio. Boom!