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Ed O’Neill on why he agreed to portray Donald Sterling

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June 4, 2024 3:56 pm

6/4/24 - Hour 3

Rich and the guys debate if Tua Tagovailoa deserves to be paid $50M per year by the Miami Dolphins, and Rich previews the AFC East and reveals his best-case scenarios for the New York Jets, Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and New England Patriots.

Actor Ed O’Neill joins Rich in-studio to discuss his role as disgraced former Clippers owner Donald Sterling in FX’s ‘Clipped,’ reveals how he nearly didn’t make it past the pilot episode of ‘Married with Children,’ how ‘Coach’ star Craig T. Nelson turned down his Jay Pritchett role on ‘Modern Family,’ how he ended a 50-year recurring nightmare about getting cut by Pittsburgh Steelers legend Chuck Noll,  his favorite Al Bundy moments from ‘MWC’ and more.

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Let's go. Where is that bag? Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.

We saw Justin Jefferson last at the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, Nevada. Where is that bag? Where is that bag? I don't know, man.

I'm looking for the bag just like you are. Four years, 140 million dollars. Earlier on the show, ESPN MLB insider Jeff Passan. NFL Network reporter Stacey Dales. Coming up, actor Ed O'Neill. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

That's right. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air and Ed O'Neill, one of our favorite guests in the history of this program. He's making a return appearance.

I believe it's his third in studio. He's been on the phone as well. He was on the phone with Suze a couple of, was that last year? When I was out of the chair, he phoned in.

Suze is in the chair because he enjoyed having a conversation and ended it this week. So what's up, is that it? That is up, that it? I was like, alright Ed, and he's like what? So what's up, is that it? He wanted to keep talking.

It's one of my favorite drops. He plays Donald Sterling, for crying out loud, in FX's Clipped on Hulu, which you can see starting tonight. Debuts tonight, we had Kelly O'Coin in studio yesterday talking about playing Andy Roser, the longtime executive of Donald Sterling. Ed O'Neill's going to be here. That's going to come up in about 15 minutes time.

I can't wait to get him out. Fun chat last hour with Stacy Dales about what's going on in the WNBA and how everybody's losing their minds. And then in hour number one, Jeff Passan joined us talking Major League Baseball and all the latest there. If you missed it, we re-ear on the Roku channel, channel 210.

We're live on this Rich Eisen show, Terrestrial Radio affiliate, Sirius XM, Odyssey, and more. If you're on hold, stay on hold. We'll take your call before the end of the show, I promise. I didn't have a third cup of coffee in the middle of the run.

You didn't go for it? I'm okay though. I'm hanging in there. I appreciate your interest. Hey everybody, we started the show by Who's Not There in Dallas.

C.D. Lamb, he wants a contract. He's not getting it.

Somebody else got pizayed just yesterday. His name's Justin Jefferson. He's got $110 million guaranteed on his contract. That's $10 million more than the guy who threw the ball last year. His name's Kirk Cousins. He's a quarterback.

He's being paid better than a quarterback in the NFL right now. And I guess C.D. is like, hey, if I'm not on the dotted line, I'm not showing up. Some guys have that opinion, and I get it. I totally understand that. Other guys who are expecting a contract, seen others getting paid, sometimes will show up.

One of them is named Tuatongo Valoa. He's in line to get paid. I told you he's going to get a contract that starts with a five. He will have an annual salary that's in the $50 million range. Tom Pelissero last week came here on Friday, said no quarterback that signs now is going to be in a $40 million club anymore. 50 million bucks. Jared Goff and his latest contract set the market on that front as well.

And the lines got in earlier than others. Why let Tuat set the market? Why let the Dolphins set your market if you're the line?

Set it yourself. So Tuat was asked today if the, in his mind, the Jared Goff contract is, in fact, a market setter for him and his agent to top. Do you view those numbers that others get around the league as benchmarks for your negotiations like Jared Goff?

Well, I'll tell you one thing. The market is the market. If we didn't have a market, then none of that would matter. Just be an organizational thing. You know, didn't matter if that guy got paid that because it's up to the organization. So that's what I would say. The market is the market. Are you confident that a deal would get done before training camp? I'm confident that a deal would get done. But then again, it's not in my control. You know, it's it's really up to both sides meeting in the middle with this.

All right. So how would he term it? We're looking for adjectives to looking for adjectives. How would you term your mood or your, I guess, belief in all of this happening? Your disposition. Great word.

Level of concern. How would you term it? We want a word.

I want an adjective. We need a thesaurus, a to a thesaurus, a to a thesaurus. We need a to a thesaurus for an adjective to describe how you're feeling about this whole thing to it. And here is that exchange.

Where things stand right now. Not frustrated. I'm I'm another word, but. Yeah. Annotated, annoyed. Just want to get something done.

That's it. Just wanted to get some. What was your reaction?

Go ahead. Concerned? Is that not concerned? Concerns not the right word.

That's way off from the word. Yeah. Probably.

I wouldn't say pissed off. This is this is the nature of the beast, right? That's how it goes. He almost went with it is what it is. I think he was right there. I think he was right there. He walked right up to the line of it is what it is, which is definitely an indication of frustration.

When you go, it is what it is. You're just trying to get out of it. He also did, in fact, pause when I think the word agitated was thrown out there by a member of the media. Annoyed, agitated. That guy was on it. He was peppered him with. And that's went to a paused.

That's when he paused. You know. I mean, if you're searching for an adjective. For to a tongue of Iloa, is it possible? It could be salty.

Is it possible? I don't know about you, but that looks like money. It's salty to a. I don't think he's salty yet. I think I think he's I think the salt is on the table.

It's ready to be. There's a contract on the table that he's not satisfied with. And that puts salt on the table.

And I don't know if he's ready to start shaking yet. But this is one of those things. This is this is what happens when you have OTAs in the middle of negotiating periods. Yeah.

This is what happens when you don't, you know. You have somebody sign on the dotted line and he wants to be there with his guys and he knows that things are going enough in the right direction that he should show up. I'm telling everybody this guy is going to get paid and it's going to be a lot of money and it's going to be a bunch of people saying, is he worth it? And that's going to be part of the conversation. And you're one of them, aren't you?

You're one of them. Yeah. I don't understand.

I wouldn't pay him as much as Jared Goff. Your team hasn't beaten him yet. Yet. Not yet. I don't know what that has to do. I don't know. Normally you covet what you see.

Normally you covet what you see. The Patriots have not beaten Tua. Belichick is now is now on the Manning cast without a single win against Tua Tungovailoa, which is kind of something else. I think that matters.

Zero point zero. Well, I mean, it's results. You're not getting the results in the playoffs. He's had there was one playoff season. He didn't and he wasn't able to to play in it because he was concussed. And they showed last year that the Tua Jitsu, whatever he was able to do, he was able to stay healthy throughout the year.

So you check that box. The rest of his defense was what fell apart around him. And Tyreek Hill got hip drop tackled on a Monday night that they lost to Tennessee, which they shouldn't have done. They had two playoff games last year and lost them both.

Yep. Which is the week 18 finale. Which was essentially a playoff game in at home to avoid having to play in minus 20 degrees. And they lost that.

I'm with you. But what I'm also saying is defensively, they were completely a shell of themselves. And I might be excuse making here because the bills were the bills were to the bills were there than Jared Goff. I think he can be as good as Jared Goff. Not the question. No.

Better, right? I don't think he's as good as Jared Goff. I think right now Jared Goff is playing more consistent football. He also plays indoors all the damn time, which I think Tua would look like if he didn't have to go play outdoors. Plays in South Florida. I get it. You know what I'm saying?

Outdoors and cold weather. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Goff's in a perfect environment, literally, figuratively.

And so is Tua. He's got the right coach and they are they are they got a guy who can process fast, get rid of the ball fast with a bunch of guys who can get off the line of scrimmage and beat their man fast. That's the idea.

And if you can stay healthy and then play at home instead of having to go on the road, you can be really friggin dangerous. That's their plan. You got a guy who can scheme it, too. That's their plan. Their plan wasn't, you know, Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb going down.

And then having, you know, some sort of cane mutiny on their hands, apparently in the defensive meeting rooms. That wasn't part of the plan. I mean, I get accused of being a dolphin hater because I'm a Pats fan, but it's just what I see. I got it. I mean, I know he's 6-0, but he played well in one game. But guess what?

Wellish in one other one. The market is the market, as he said. That's why there are markets. It's not just an organizational decision. Yes, but it can be an organizational decision. I know. That's true. It can be. Yeah, true. And that's your point is an organization should make a decision saying we're not paying you 50 million. Exactly. All they have to do is say, no, we're not doing this. And then that's that. That's it.

Hey, Tua, here's the offer for 160. Take it or leave it. Guess what? Guess what's not going to happen? Mike White starting for Tua.

That ain't happening. Sorry. Skyler Thompson, pardon me, with all due respect to those gentlemen. Tua led the league in passing. He had 29 touchdowns. Yes, sir.

You're not going to find him. Do it in the playoffs. Who cares? That's the point. We'll see it.

I'd love to see it. I agree, Chris. Speaking of that, speaking of that, before we get to Ed O'Neill, let's get some positivity in our lives. It is time. We did all four NFC divisions. It's now time to give you the best case scenarios for all AFC East teams entering the 2024 season. Hit it, please.

Hit it. Best case scenario for each NFL team. Here we go. Here we go. At least start for the New England Patriots.

This is my best case scenario for the Patriots. Drake may get some quality work in at some point, and he's ready to take over this team from Jump Street starting next season. He gets in enough quality time, enough quality work.

He wets his beak a little bit or has to wet his beak a lot, and it doesn't overwhelm him. And the defense looks exactly the same. All right. The do your job defense, Jarod Mayos in charge. It looks the same like that. That part of the operation is not affected by Belichick's departure. Yeah, Judon, Barmore, Gonzo.

Yeah, everyone looks great. Correct. And the Patriots win eight games. I think that is very rosy and optimistic.

But that's what this segment's about. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's their best case scenario. Drake may plays in December. Ready to start week one, 2025. Away we go.

Or if he's forced to play in November or October, it doesn't overwhelm him. Yeah, I think that's fair. That's the best case scenario for the Patriots.

All right. The Buffalo Bills. Best case scenario. Oh, man, they win the AFC East again. Keon Coleman is offensive rookie of the year that he just shows up and shows out. And and and and takes that wide receiver room by storm and gets a deal with Macy's. Josh Allen finishes in MVS. You get to deal with that.

But that's part and part. I think that it comes with it. Definitely. Josh Allen's a finalist for the MVP. I'm not going to sit here and say he wins the MVP, but I mean, I'll just throw him in as a finalist. The Bills not only win the Super Bowl, but they beat the Chiefs and Arrowhead on the way to doing. Oh, I like that. I like that. That's their best case scenario. They are the ones to personally and the three peed opportunity in front of the Arrowhead folks. And then go on and win the Super Bowl when everybody least expects them to finally do it with Josh Allen. They say our windows not only damn open, we just opened it up and won through it and bring to western New York. What everybody's been dreaming there for decades. Allen's been a finalist three the last four years. OK, to win it. All right. See, we'll upgrade it.

Upgrade to win. Good dolphins. Best case scenario. They end the Bills dominance atop the AFC East. They win the AFC East to as an MVP finalist.

I'll go there for you. Phillips or Chubb come back to win comeback player of the year. I don't know how healthy they're going to be to actually one. You know, one's got an Achilles.

One's got a you know, a knee. I don't know how they're going to come back or when. But let's just say they do it and they play well enough. Their comeback player of the year, one of those two and they're the ones who eliminate the Chiefs on the way to winning the Super Bowl. They're the ones who personally end the three peed opportunity because to me, that's the best case scenario for every team in the AFC winning the Super Bowl is that they're the ones to personally end the Chiefs three peed opportunity.

Agreed. They're the ones who play, I guess, the role of the Denver Broncos back in the day when the Patriots last had an opportunity to go three peed. Yeah. They're the ones who do that on the way to winning the Super Bowl. So you're going to hear that a lot.

I like it. As we now talk about best case scenarios for AFC teams, starting with the AFC East, now the final one for the New York Jets. Here, coach, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers becomes the first player in NFL history to win comeback player of the year, most valuable player of the regular season and most valuable player of the Super Bowl in the same season. He dominates in exactly the way Jets fans hoped that he would when he came from Green Bay and only played four snaps. Comeback player of the year, MVP and Super Bowl MVP in the same season.

And just to put a cherry on top, Breece Hall is offensive player of the year to boot. That he shows up and he shows out and he becomes the Christian McCaffrey, if you will, of the Jets, while Rodgers not only stays healthy, but wins comeback player of the year, MVP of the regular season again and Super Bowl MVP just like he did for Green Bay. And the Jets go down the canyon of heroes and nobody gets fired. And if you want to say that somebody is going to wind up being happy in Jets fandom, best case scenario for these folks is that Trump wins for Woody Johnson. RFK wins for Aaron Rodgers and Biden wins for Larry David. And somebody is going to be happy for best case scenarios.

And those are my best case scenarios for the AFC East teams. Just to weave a little bit out of my lane before veering back into it. That's fun. Let's take a break. Ed O'Neill, people.

Oh, yeah. Let's get him out. We're going to do it live.

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Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states. Ed O'Neill is here on the Rich Eisen Show with our television audience now back with our radio audience together. You showed a great clip from FX's clip, which premieres today exclusively on Hulu. And it's just I'll be honest with you. You look just like the guy and you sound like him. And I mean, how how much were you watching Donald Sterling tapes and things of that nature? I don't do much of that.

It was it was sort of like, you know, first of all, I was a little hesitant to do it. Right. And so just because I remembered when it happened, like everybody, I was in L.A. Right. And I and I'm not a I don't follow pro basketball that much peripherally. I do.

You know, I watch Sports Center. Yeah. But I thought, well, this is a strange story.

And when the tapes came out, I I believe I heard them. Yep. And I thought, well, this is not going to go well.

Yes. And then when I got the call that they said they wanted me to play Sterling in all these years later, I thought, geez, I don't know about this one. You know, but I read the script.

Gina Welsh wrote the script and I didn't know Gina, but I knew she she had come up with David Milch, who I had done a lot of work with. So I knew that that would be a good thing. Sure. And then even then, though, I said, I think I'm going to pass. I believe I'd said that. And then they said, would you have lunch with her?

You know, they do that. You have lunch with her. And I thought, I don't want to go down that road because I know where that leads. Which means I'll do it.

So I said I almost have to have lunch with her because of Milch, who I really feel I owe a lot to. What did you do with Milch? I did two series that didn't make it. Big Apple in New York and John from Cincinnati.

John from Cincinnati, which is what he did after Deadwood. Yes. OK.

Yes. So I said I'd have lunch with her. So I was driving over to the restaurant and I was already writing my exit speech, you know, as politely as I could put it together.

Right. And then I because I never met her and I sat down and we were talking about every other thing, you know, as you do. And I think she said something like, well, I really hope that you you're considering it. And I said, oh, I'm doing it backtrack. And I said it and I'm thinking my brain is saying, what did you just say? But this is how my mind works, unfortunately. So I didn't want to disappoint her. And and I think I wanted to challenge myself. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

I think I think sometimes we I know I do certain roles and you don't really use a whole lot of your engine. You know, it's more or less 70 percent or maybe 65. And I thought this one is going to be 100. All the way through, you know, and so that's why I did it. I'm sure.

And again, I'm just we're just showing photographs of you look just like him. It is eerie. It is kind of remarkable how progression to that I like because I've seen them all. And I like it. I like it. Yeah. A great cast around. I mean, not around me.

No, no, no. I just see Jackie. Jackie Weaver is playing your the you know, your wife in this. And she looks just like and sounds just like Shelly. She's really right for me. I just tried to get I heard him interviewed and I thought, well, I want to have a kind of pedantic.

Delivery, you know, ING endings and kind of a little bit of a wine. That's all. But but she's like spot on because he is just he's he's a real SOB. I mean, there's no other way to put it.

I never met him and neither have I. But I mean, I just, you know, having followed the sport and obviously know intimately the stories now. I mean, you know, we were just going back and forth here.

I mean, you don't usually play a heel very often. Not like that. I played like who? Like when was the last time like we were going back to like little giants.

Yeah, I mean, it was kind of full of himself, but he had a good heart. Sure. No, no. There's no other roles like this. There's very few. Right.

Like Donald Sterling. So that was obviously my hesitation. Sure. Right.

But, you know, I thought, well, Jackie Weaver is sort of the Meryl Streep of Australia and Lawrence Fishburne. I knew from New York and when when you were you were when I was in New York, New York, just living there. Yeah, I was in his apartment.

We, you know, we kicked it around a little bit. This is pre moving out. Well, yeah, pre moving out to L.A. pre-married with children and all that.

Yes. When you just knew him as just a fellow actor, you know, just theater stuff. And, you know, I never worked with them. But, you know, we were we had mutual friends. And it's amazing how that works. It is. That's pretty cool.

It really is. And O'Neill here on The Rich Eyes and show. Are there any similarities playing Donald Sterling and Al Bundy in any way, shape or form? You know, I don't know.

I don't I hope not, but. You know, it's the same guy, you know, I mean, how so? Well, I mean, I mean, no, I mean, I'm saying it's being done by the same guy. OK, it's sometimes, you know, you you may fall into something that says that sounded like kind of like the other guy, you know. Did you have a moment like that?

Oh, yeah, I always have. I forget what it was, but you have those little moments and usually they're in a take and then you do another take and you try to take it out, you know, because it's not appropriate. And but I also use the voice of a guy that I guess it was a combination of a guy that was my roommate at OU who had pitched short relief for the Pirates later. And his dad was I mentioned him to you once before, I think Sammy Angot, who was lightweight champ of the World Hall of Fame.

His son was Sammy, my roommate. And he had a kind of way of speaking like, you know, hey, when he had this kind of whiny kind of thing. So I was well aware of that. And it was sort of easy to fall into that while doing Donald Sterling. Yeah.

You know, because it's, you know, who cares? But did you did have like a moment where you slipped back into Al Bundy is playing Donald Sterling. That moment. Yes. I mean, I mean, I think it's easy to do. You know, there's not. I don't think I did it a lot. I don't think I did. But others may say no, you know. Yeah.

Because like when you told the story, you were here in your first appearance here like eight years ago about how you got that role. You kind of like slipped right back into. Oh, did I? Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. I really did. When you talked about how you based him on being my uncle. Yeah.

Because he was resigned. Oh, yeah. You know, I don't know if I told you this because I only found out about this recently.

OK. Through a book that Richard Germin wrote. He was one of our producers about the show. And I didn't know a lot about that.

I mean, this is a month ago. I read this about married with children. Yeah. OK. About the making of it and the whole thing.

Oh, I was thinking. That Diller wanted Katie, but he didn't want me. Diller was Murdoch's right hand guy. And he just thought that they could do better, you know, because they never heard of me. I was a dramatic actor as far as they were concerned.

Yes. From New York and unknown. So they were putting a lot of money in this show. And they said, this guy, who is he? He's not he's not a comedian. He's not funny.

He's not. So they were desperate because they were a week away from shooting. So they said, we really want him. And Murdoch said, you know, I mean, Diller said, do what you want and left and went back to Fox. And so they started to make arrangements to cast me. And then apparently he called and said, did you get rid of O'Neill? And they said, no, you told us we could do a run.

He said, I didn't mean it. So as the story goes, he said, well, it's it's bought for twelve. It's now one. One episode? We're paying for the pilot. If this thing doesn't kick off, this will never see the light of day.

If you hire this guy. And you just found that out a month ago. And they didn't tell me. And so we shot the pilot under those pressures for everybody else.

I didn't know about it. You know, there was enough pressure. Yeah. But then apparently he said, OK, you know, afterwards. And then I think they were six. And then, you know, and then it went from there.

He went 11 years. But I ran into him at one of these awards thing. I think I was doing I don't know what I was doing, but I ran into him.

Barry Diller. Yeah. And I had also had little dealings with him when I did the movie Dutch, which was very funny.

Yes. And he said, you know, I made a mistake about you. And I said, we all make them.

So I said, but the story is funny about him. When they when they signed me up for Dutch and I shot it, then it was the holidays were coming up. And, you know, they do this. They had this idea to go on a bus and truck tour through the south.

Over the Christmas holidays, like Little Rock, you know, small towns to promote the movie. Yeah. And I said, it's over Christmas. You know, you're going to take me and the kid on a bus. And they said, yeah, it's a wonderful idea.

And we can really you know, they do that. So I said, I don't know. And they said, come to the commissary and we'll have lunch tomorrow. And I did. And there were 15 people at the table all, you know, trying to sell this idea. And I think, well, I guess I got to do it.

I was having the contract checked if I had to do it. Right. And along comes Diller. He's walking, you know.

Yeah. And he comes over to the table and says, hi, hi, hi. And they're afraid of him, you know, terrified of him.

You know, his head, he looks like a rattlesnake. So he looks at me and he says, I saw the movie the other night. It's good. I liked it. You're good. I said, thanks, Barry.

So what are you here for? So they the one says, well, we're thinking about, you know, a bus and truck tour for Mr. O'Neill to go through the south. It's the worst. I can't I can't swear right now. It's the worst blanking idea I ever heard in my life.

A bus and truck tour. Looks to me, you want to do this? I said, not really. He said, no, worst idea I ever heard. And he walked away.

Now, we hadn't even got our Cobb salads yet. There was no more conversation over nothing. Nothing. Just glasses and tinkling and. Save your bus tour.

There was no Dutch bus tour. You know, it's kind of funny, too, is that some people sometimes think when when he would originally say, I don't want you to I don't want Ed O'Neill for the Al Bundy role. It's your funeral, I think is the words that you said. It's your funeral to them. Right. To them. Right.

And but that would be taken as, OK, thank you. You've now delegated the responsibility decision to us. He took it to mean you should now fire him.

Fire him. And they didn't. And they cut the pilot order from twelve down to one.

And it lasts 11 years. And, you know, honestly, you couldn't blame him for being hesitant about me because he didn't know who I was. Right.

They didn't know anything about me. Right. Right. So who knows?

You know, it's funny, we had Eric Stonestreet here a few months ago and he told a story about Modern Family and how you guys had never really met before. You shot the pilot. Right. And he's driving along with his friend.

And he hadn't heard a word yet about whether this show is going to get picked up. And you called. Yeah. And you told him. You remember this conversation?

Yeah, I do. I called him. I had seen it. I saw the show because I watched it after they all did. For some reason, I was working somewhere else. OK, I came back and I went to I had to go to the Fox lot, Leviton and Lloyd's office, and they put me in a room by myself and they put the tape in.

The guy walked out and shut the door. Yeah. So I watched the pilot and then he came back in, you know, timed it. And I said, would you play it again? I want to watch it again. OK, play it again. I want another twenty two minutes, you know.

Yes. Watched it again. And I said, OK, thank you. So I went out and I was driving around and I called I called a few people in the cast and I called Eric. And he was driving around with his buddies, I think, in the car or something. And I said, Eric, you know, he imitates me. And I said, I just screened the pilot. Oh, you know, Eric was pantomiming things. He was doing mime in some garage in Encino. And he said, I said, you're great in this. He said, oh, thank you. And I said, if this show doesn't run 10 years, I shouldn't be in Hollywood. I shouldn't be out here at all.

Ten years, you're going to be buying houses with this thing. And he was, oh, you know, you know, you can imagine. Yeah. He thought for me, he thought and now I'm I'm not sure, but he thought it was like, you know, some kind of problem.

OK, confirm. By the way, it was. Yeah, it was. It was because when I saw the pilot and I've been wrong before, Rich.

Sure. About things, you know, we all are right. But when I saw the pilot and I think I had run into Eisen, Bob. And and he said, this is the best pilot I've seen in I think he said 10 or 20 years. So I knew, you know, it was that was it. I knew it. It was like I knew it from the time I read it. It was that good on the page. It was that good on the page. I said, this is a hit. And it it went to oh, I don't. Why can't I remember his name? I thought of it this morning. The actor that they offered the part to.

Not me. You know, he played coach. Oh, serious. Three names. Craig T. Nelson. Yes, Craig.

And because Craig and I were up for a lot of things over the years, you know, were similar. And so when I because I had the meeting with those guys, Lloyd Levitan, a year before they hadn't written it yet. And they pitched the idea and they said, would you be willing to like get involved now? And I said, no, I don't want to do a sitcom. Didn't they tell you that? They said, well, you know, they try to talk me into it's it's not for camera. There's no audience. Right. Because I don't like an audience in a sitcom.

Even while you were doing Married with Children? It's no good. It's no good. Because you've got four cameras in the audience behind them. Right. They're there to see you. But the cameras now are in the way. So they have the screens, but they don't know where to look. So often they laugh at the wrong time.

They blow jokes. You know, OK, was my thing. But so where was I going?

You said that you didn't want to do a sitcom and they still wanted you to be this role. So they were very nice. And I respect that. The reason I was there was there. I knew what they had done.

Sure. You know, Frasier Golden Girls just shoot. So a year later, I got the script in the mail and it was a different name, different title. And then I saw their names and I said, oh, this must be that show. So I read it and I thought, oh, no, no, no. I got to do this.

I didn't realize it was not an offer. And I called my manager and I said, Mark, I think I have to do this. And he said, too late to Craig T. Nelson. I said, oh, OK, well, I'll watch it. It's going to be a good show. And then a week later, he called and said, they're back to you because Craig T understandably passed because it was only one show.

And those guys like Craig, you know, he wanted some upfront money, like pay me for six. Sure. And I'll do your one. And if it doesn't make it, no hard feelings. That's the way it goes.

So he must have passed, assuming they come back to him. But I guess somebody wanted me for the part. And they said they're back to you. And I said, make the deal. And he said, you're not the star. I said, I know you're not paying your quota. I said, I don't care. It's a hit.

We'll get even later and then we'll get ahead. And I was right. You sure were.

No doubt about that. Everybody connected to him. No, I'm not interested at O'Neill here. I don't even know what the story was. I think I saw I think I saw before I let you go.

I think I saw a clip of you telling a story because you you've also told us here about how you, you know, you were at the Steelers and Chuck Mills first year and he cut you. And you had a recurring dream about this. Yes. I never told you that. No.

Do you know why? Well, no, I did remember that. But OK. You want me to tell you?

All right. It was I got cut. I was twenty three years old.

Yeah. And then every year after that, I would have a recurring, you know, recurring dreams. At least twice a year, I'd have the same dream. And I was back in camp in uniform on the sidelines, a scrimmage going on, an assistant coach comes by and says, you're in the next series, O'Neill.

I said, OK, coach, go in. And I remember in the dream, I'm thinking I've got another shot. I knew I had been here before. Every year, the only difference was I was always in the dream the age I was at that time. So it cut to the last time I had the dream. Yeah. Same scenario. Exactly.

O'Neill in the next series. OK, coach, here's where it stopped. Coach, you may not know it, but I'm seventy five years old.

You look great. Go on and you'll be all right. I said, no, I don't think so. And I walked off the field. Now, I never had the dream again.

I should have been seeing a shrink because it was twenty three to seventy five. And I mean, so you basically you retired from your own recurring dream. Yes, I retired myself. So Chuck Knoll retired you in real life in real life.

Give me your playbook. Exactly. 1969 did give him what you did, in fact, do that. Starting your incredible career as an actor. And then you retired from the recurring nightmare on your own. Yeah. Now, I'll tell you what a story the catch.

I'll tell you that I don't know what to describe it. There was something else in that conversation with Nolan. I. Yeah. That I forgot in real life, in real life. OK. Now, I don't know how this happened because, oh, I'm not going to go into this other little thing.

It's not worth it. When I had that conversation with Chuck Knoll and you know, they're always so nice to you, you know, when they're cutting you, you know, they don't want you to pull out a knife. So he said, listen, I was on the phone today with Coach Kool Herrick with the Eagles. Yeah, right.

Sure. And they need linebackers. And if you want, we'll rent you a car here. You know, we're at St. Vincent's College. You can drive up the P.A.

Pike to Philly and they'll give you a very good look. But you have to tell me right now, because they have to fill the spot, you know, we'll have to call and let them know. I said right now, I said, yeah. And I, I sat there for maybe, you know, I didn't want to wait too long.

Seconds. And I said, no, I'm done. And I remember him saying, you're done? And I said, yeah, I'm done.

I want to try something else. He said, oh, what? I said, I have no idea.

But not this. Now, I never told that story. I forgot that I never I didn't remember it.

Right. And it came up to me just lately. That that was said and I it must have been I was ashamed of it. That I actually quit before I was actually done. I mean, I was done, but I did have another shot that I turned down. Maybe you just knew it that, you know, I'm I'm I'm not cut out for it deep down. And I think that was it.

Oh, and maybe the same way that, you know, just to kind of bring it full circle that you went to lunch with the writer of Clipped and you're like, I'm not doing it. And then all of a sudden just came out of you like, of course, I'm going to do it. It was like that. And the funny thing was, I don't think I regretted it even after that. Yeah. But something in the subconscious kept working on me.

You know, it's interesting how we how that works. Can I get one more segment out of you to take it to the top of the hour? OK, Ed O'Neill is going to stick around with us right here on the Rich Eisen Show Clipped FX is Clipped available on Hulu starting tonight.

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Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. Ed O'Neill is here on the program. One last thing as well. Stone Street was here talking about how, you know, it was entirely possible to have a spinoff of Modern Family with with his character, you know, and. Yes. Jesse, Jesse, Jesse's phenomenal.

Both of those guys. Is there any chance we can get one more bite at the apple here where everybody gets back together? What do you think? You don't. I don't think I'm not real big on the reboot things.

I mean, just even if it's just one like holiday special, you know, I mean, like a like a holiday holiday special. Oh, I do that. I mean, I'm not you know, if they came to me with that, I'm not going to say, oh, I'm not doing it right. I do it, you know, like I do. No, I'm not doing it.

No, I think I will. Just take them to lunch. Just take me to lunch. Just one lunch, free lunch. Cobb salad.

Cobb salad with a little bacon. That's it. And say yes.

Free food. I would love that. You know what I mean? Just just to see what what's what everyone's up to one more time. I mean, that would be fine.

You know, that's not in my wheelhouse. My oldest son has watched the entire modern family start to finish twice. You know what I say about that show, Rich? It was so well made. Those guys really know how to make a show. Yeah. And the writing was just like top notch.

Consistent. Every episode was. I mean, really, it was it was. If you don't have that, you don't have a show.

Right. Do you have just a recollection again of what your favorite Al Bundy line was? My favorite Al Bundy line. Oh, my God.

So many. I'll tell you what it was. I know.

No, it wasn't. But this came to mind. OK, sure.

Like again. OK. It just popped in. Peg was complaining to me at the table how she had not had an orgasm in, I don't know, six months or five months. Haven't had one, Al.

Haven't had one. You believe that? Six months. And then repeated that several times, a little louder each time. And I looked at her and said, way to get one, Peg. That's funny, isn't it?

That's the one? Well, it's funny because it's it's so horrible a situation to find yourself in, you know, that you what are you going to do after that? You know, what's your choice then? What's your option, Rich? Is it let's go to bed and now and I'm going to make it all up to you?

No, probably not. Oh, my God. There's so many moments when you when was the last time you've watched him married? Well, every now and then, you know, they rerun so much in your channel surfing. Yeah. And then I can I remember them. You know, it's two hundred sixty five shows.

Yes. But I'll watch and go, oh, I like this one, you know, and I'll watch it and I forget a lot of it. I forget a lot of them. And then when I watch it, I find myself, you know, there was another one where I was on the couch with with Bud. And I had just my Dodge had quit running. And I think there was he was mourning the loss of his Dodge on the couch.

And he said and the kids sit next to him, his son, and he's crying about the Dodge. I love that. You know, I'm not going to do it.

I love that car more than anything in the world. And the kids like saying, well, well, what about me, dad? You need a Q-tip? You know, I just said it. Now, it's so wrong, but it's funny, right?

That's basically you just described all married with children. It's wrong, but it's funny. Here's another one. Here's another one. I wanted him to join our bowling team because we lost somebody down to, you know, sick or something. And we had a big tournament and we just needed a body. So we tried to recruit Bud and he wouldn't do it because he had been humiliated before trying this, you know, do my stuff. And so I realized I was in a corner and he was not going to do it. And I said, remember, son, that time when you tried out for a little league. And you didn't make it and you came home crying and I told you it was OK. You tried and that's all that counts.

You remember they said, I do, dad, I do. Well, I lied. You disgraced me then. And I'm disgraced. It remains to this day.

I was humiliated. So again, some people don't find that funny. Well, yes. But you have to understand when you're when you're flipping on married with children, what you get. Yeah. You know, that's right. You're understanding the world into which you're entering.

Yes. You know, yes, you should be forewarned. And that's kind of why I asked if there's any similarity between married with children and obviously playing, you know, Donald.

I didn't think about it. But you have to know when you're turning on the show, what world you're entering. Exactly. And that's yeah, that's right. But I remember Michael Moyer, who is one of the creators and producers. He used to say in the criticism of that going over the line and stuff, he said, look, if you're watching a sitcom to learn something. You're in trouble.

We only want to make you laugh. Yeah. Al Bundy wasn't Mr. Chips.

You know what I mean? Like, no, he's definitely the last guy you want to learn a life lesson from. He was serving a sentence. He was bravely serving a sentence because his life ended after high school.

Those four touchdowns in one game. What is there to do after that? Nothing. Oh, my God. See, I'll dole out grandfatherly advice. Now we're talking reboot FX is clipped premieres today exclusively on Hulu.

You can watch FX is clipped on Hulu right here on Roku. You are, sir, one of my favorites. Thank you for coming down.

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