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If you liked the video, ETC. Oh, yeah. Okay, so agape means divine love, right? Yes.

No, not necessarily. Because the word can... Well, it's the highest form of love. Woe to you Pharisees, for you agapeed. You love the high seats and the synagogues and respectful greetings in the marketplace. That's Luke 11 43. So you see... Wait a minute, what Jesus... Okay, that's what Jesus said.

Go ahead. Yeah, I was just... I don't remember which disciple, but... Wasn't that the word that he used when he asked him if he loved him? He used agape.

Yeah, agape, then phileo is what he switched. But I'm just trying to show you, I'm just trying to illustrate something. That words mean what they mean in context. A lot of times people make a mistake and think that a word is used this way.

And so therefore that's what it always must mean in every context, not the case. And I use the word agape to demonstrate that. Because it can mean divine love, for God so loved the world. That's agape in John 3 16, absolutely.

But the Pharisees loved or agapeed their high seats. So it's not divine love there. So you can't say agape automatically means divine love.

You can't say that... They just used agape in that scenario because that's how much they loved their sin, that type of love. It was a complete commitment to, an absolute dedication to, in that sense.

Right? So words have dynamic meaning. So if I say to somebody, man you never listen to me. Does the word never mean absolutely never?

Of course not. And so languages like that, the word all for example in the New Testament. I can show you where the word all means every individual.

I can show you where the all absolutely does not. In the word church for example, ekklesia in the Greek. I can show you where it means a local body, the universal church, and just an assembly of people. And so we've got to be careful.

We don't want to make this mistake called illegitimate totality transfer. A word has a scope of meanings. It's called the semantic domain. It has a range of meanings in different contexts. And then what happens is, people will say well it means this over there. And so for example, there's another one.

Because we have no callers waiting. I'll show you something. In Matthew 1.25, okay, this is what the Catholics will do. And it says Joseph kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a son. So there the word until, obviously what it means, is until that, you know, afterwards they had relations. Now the Roman Catholics will say absolutely not.

She remained a virgin, which he kept her a virgin until she gave birth to the son. What do you think that means? And so what they'll do is, they go to, and I'll show you this so I can find it really quickly here. They go to 1 Corinthians 15 I think it is. And it says, where is it, that he will put all things under subjection until the Lord does something. I forgot where the exact verse is. I'm trying to find it. And what they'll do is they'll say that the word until means forever there.

So they transfer the meaning from there over to Matthew 1.25. It's called illegitimate totality transfer. Hold on, we've got a break, okay? Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages, four open lines. Give me a call, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back.

Are we still there? Yes. Yeah, I found that verse. It was in 1 Corinthians 15.25.

It says he'll keep subjecting all things under his feet until, and actually it's a different Greek word, but this is what, that's what the error is. It's called illegitimate totality transfer, okay? Okay. All right, now you had another question or something? I thought it was by laying on your hands or something like that.

Yeah, I was just wanting to get your interpretation on that. I mean, I know that Jesus told his disciples to go out and to heal and to spread the gospel and what are, you know, can we do that? Can we go out into the hills? No, can we lay hands, healing hands on other Christians or people in our, you know, trying to spread the gospel? Like, how can we lay healing hands on people? I think we all know, you know, have people that we care about, that we'd like to be able to heal.

I was listening to you talk about, you know, your wife earlier and I'm sorry to hear that and I'm going to pray that she gets better, you know, but what's the prerequisite? How can we try to help people by laying healing hands on them? Well, we have to understand that God is the one who heals and that we must be in prayer and subjection to him. Sometimes he doesn't want to heal people and people might think that's not true. Well, it is true that God doesn't always want to heal everybody, you know. In Exodus 4-11 God says, who makes the eye blind, the ear deaf, the tongue dumb is not I the Lord.

So God is one who does these things sometimes and other times it's just the nature of sin in the world. But here's the thing, a lot of people don't get is that, you know, take my wife for example. It will compare her to me in the sense that, well, I've got a couple of issues, you know, I've got a ring in my ears, I've had it for 30 years, it's 80 decibels, it's just horrendous.

What am I going to do? But that's nothing compared to what she's going through. She's going through a lot of stuff and she's praising God through it for many years. So what's her place in heaven going to be? Her place in heaven is going to be, I think, high because she has not complained against God for her ailments.

She has praised him through it all. Now it's easy for people to say, you know, like me, oh, if I had this, I'd praise him too. You don't know. You don't know. So now think about this. You have a person who's God's letting that person suffer and then they die, never being healed, and then they die to go be with the Lord. And then somebody else, so to speak, who hasn't had any ailments, serves the Lord and dies, we could ask the question, which one might have a greater reward, the one who suffered and praised God or the one who did not suffer and praised God? I'm sure it'd be the one who suffered. Yeah, it would seem so. And so on the eternal perspective, is it better to heal someone now?

Because would it be robbing them of eternal glory? We don't know. I'm just asking the questions. And it's just one of the things we've got to think about.

And so that's what it is. Okay. I appreciate it. All right. Well, sounds good, buddy. All right. Any questions? I'll talk to you later. Okay. Hey, folks.

Wide open lines. Nobody waiting wants to give me a call. 877-207-2276. Just letting you guys know that tomorrow night I'll be teaching online on eternal security.

You'll be going in and we put it online. It's what we do. If you're interested in that kind of an issue, if you want to know, can we lose our salvation? The answer is no, we cannot. Jesus doesn't make any mistakes. We don't lose salvation. For those of you who say that you can, then on what basis do you do it biblically? Show me a verse and we can discuss it.

You can give me a call. We can talk about that. There's also the issue of the doctrine of the Trinity, which I hope to be able to defend soon. I've offered a challenge to some oneness people on that very issue.

And unfortunately what often happens in the context of offering a discussion or debate is that, particularly in oneness areas, it's really interesting. In oneness people, sometimes in annihilationists, but mostly in oneness people and in universalists, they become extremely hostile, rude, condemning. And they don't seem to understand that the scriptures tell us that we're not to be rude and condemning like that, that we are to be gentle, we're to be kind. Now it's appropriate to say to somebody, well look, you're believing a false doctrine. If you continue to believe that, you're going to go to hell.

And that's appropriate. But it's just to become so rude and so condemning and so mocking, this is not the attitude that a true Christian is supposed to have. Now I know that there are some, I know some Christians who do that and it's something that needs to be avoided. And so what I'm talking about here is why is it that sometimes people who, they claim to represent Christ and know who Jesus is, are so difficult to work with and are so full of condemnation and hatred.

And yet they're supposed to be representing Jesus. And they justify their anger and their vociferous condemnations by saying things like, well you deserve it. And I have found often that the people who do that are often quite immature, quite young, and I'm not mocking them, it's just that's the case I've discovered. And I very often will ask them, well how old are you? And they don't want to tell me.

And I've found that usually it's young males in their early 20s and they don't have all their paws in the litter box. So nevertheless, I am offering that, and I still want to repeat this, for Church of Christ people who want to debate me on is baptism by water baptism, water as immersion in water, baptism necessary for salvation. Necessary, okay? And that's the issue. And also, I'd like to debate, or I'm open to debating a oneness person on the extent and nature of the doctrine of God. Is he a trinity or is he not a trinity?

And of course he's a trinity. And I'm open to debate people, but not just Average Joe, some guy who just happened to be saved three weeks and wants to debate me. I want to be able to debate people who are representative of their group sufficiently, so I'm just offering that again. All right, and we have three open lines, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Audrey from Oklahoma. Audrey, welcome, you're on the air. Hi there, how are you? I'm okay, hanging in there.

What do you got? I have a question, I think it's Colossians that talks about, you know, lying, but is it okay, I put okay in quotation marks, of course, to lie if it is protecting a child? So let me ask you, would Jesus ever lie? No. Would he lie to a child, to protect a child? No, it's not to a child, it's to an adult about a child. Would he ever lie to an adult about a child?

I don't think so. No, he would not. He cannot lie.

God cannot, Titus 1-2. So, lying is a sin because it's against the character of God, so we cannot lie. Okay.

Okay. Now, it doesn't mean you have to blurt out all the truth, either. Okay, so, this is a very serious thing for me in my life, is I don't lie to anybody. I never lie to anybody. People say, oh yes you do, everybody lies. Nope, I don't lie. Now, I may make a mistake, I may say something that's not true, but I believe it to be true, that's not lying, it's just making a mistake.

But I will never lie to anybody, and I can't because I'm honoring my Lord. So, if people ask me questions, like once my wife, she said, how do I look in this dress? There's a potential problem there, you know, because she looks good, she's pretty hot. And, you know, I didn't like this particular dress, and, you know, that's okay. And I said to her, well, if you ask me the question, I'm going to tell you the truth.

Don't expect me to shade the truth to guard your feelings if you ask me about this. She looked at me and she goes, okay, tell me the truth, and I did. And she didn't take offense to it, you know. I said, I don't particularly like that one on you, but, you know, I still love you, you know.

I told her, she didn't take offense, but that's how I am. You ask me the question, I'm going to tell you the truth, and that's how it should be for the Christians. And this is why we cannot lie to them and say Santa Claus is real, for example. Why would any Christian parent lie to their child, oh yeah, Santa Claus is real. It's a lie.

Well, it's okay because it's good for them to have fantasies. Oh, so lying is okay under certain conditions if it's going to help your child feel better? This is what you're going to teach your child? Don't do that.

Tell them the truth. And that's what we did with our children about Santa, as an example. No, he's not real. He's not really at the North Pole. But a lot of people believe he is, so we don't go ruining it for others, okay.

And they weren't traumatized, okay. It's like, you know, you can't have them believe in Santa? Are you going to lie to them?

I had a lot of people's parents say yes, okay. Hold on, we've got to break, okay. We've got to add a little more. Hey folks, couple open lines, 877-207-2276. Be right back.

877-007-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back, everybody. Let's get back on with Audrey. Are you still there?

I am still here, yes. All right. Did I answer your question sufficiently? Well, so the situation is a child was possibly in harm and someone had asked me if I had reported it to proper authorities. And my answer would indicate if the child would be in more danger or not in more danger. I'd go to the elders of your church because I know you can't see all the particulars over the air, and I understand that. Right.

But I'd go to the elders and talk to them. If you know of something where a child is being injured, if it is that case, you're obligated to do something. Yes. Okay. Yes, and I have taken the proper measures. Okay, yeah. But sometimes nothing's happening and slowly perceived, but we need to guard our children and the children of others if whatever negative thing is occurring needs to be taken care of. Yes.

Not just put them in the corner, you spanked them once or whatever it is, you know, but more serious stuff, okay? Yes. All right. Okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome. God bless. Okay.

Oops, sorry about that. Okay, let's get to Eli from Massachusetts. Eli, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How's it going? It's going?

It's going. What do you got, buddy? No, just, you know, quick question. Maybe you can give me advice on just, you know, two believers, but they have, you know, just differences, like, you know, like, like, let's say, like, one believer is a continuationist and one sensationist, kind of like similar to you.

And I forgot, I forgot the brother's name. I think Andrew Pano is striving for eternity. Yeah.

And maybe you can give advice on him and you and how you guys still follow each other even though you guys have this difference. Yeah, he's a cessationist. I'm a continuationist. He's a dispensationalist.

I'm a covenantalist. And we're going to both be leading a trip to Israel next year. His group merged with mine.

And he was going to go to Israel a couple months earlier. Something happened. We're merging groups. And, you know, we get along fine. And the reason we get along fine is because we know what the essentials of the Christian faith are.

The essentials of the Christian faith, the deity of Christ, the doctrine of the Trinity, justification by faith, et cetera. And whether or not the charismatic gifts are for today or not is not something that we should divide over because the Bible says not to. It says not to do it. And you can find that in Romans chapter 14. It says, Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat. And the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him.

So instead of eating, you could say for the charismatic or dispensationalism, whatever it might be. Who are you to judge the servant of another, to his own mastery, to Andrew Falls? One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.

So Andrew, as wrong as he is, holds to his position. And we've been in seminars before, and we've had discussions before where we each have a microphone, and there's the audience down there, and we will debate dispensationalism versus covenantalism. And we do it in a very friendly way, and sometimes I say, No, I say, Dude, that's not a good answer.

Here, let me give you a better answer to help you out. And he'll try to do the same thing with me. And I mock him and say, Well, if you were smart enough, you'd know the answer already. And people see us insulting each other and talking to each other like that, and they get a kick out of it. And they are surprised to see two guys with different opinions can get along.

And that's how it's supposed to be. Because he recognizes, in all seriousness, he recognizes he might be wrong. I recognize I might be wrong.

And we don't judge each other, but we move forward. And that's it. Okay? Okay. Yeah, and obviously I follow also Justin Peters' ministry, and even though he's a card-carrying cessationist, I consider him a brother in Christ, because obviously I'm a continuation Justin Peters. Oh yeah, I know Justin. We had a discussion about it very briefly. I said, Hey Justin, let's talk about it. He said, Nope, not interested in talking about it.

He's so hardcore cessationist. And I said, That's okay. If you don't want to talk about it, that's all right. But I can defend it very well.

Okay. Now because he mentioned, I remember watching one of his classes on exposing the prosperity gospel. And he mentioned quickly that continuationists, if you're that, you're basically saying the canon is open. That's not true. Is that kind of true in a way? No, it's not. No.

I love Justin. We've ministered together, and he's a great guy. But I'll just say that the answer to that is found in 1 Corinthians 14, because people there in 1 Corinthians 14 were saying that there were words of knowledge, words of wisdom, and prophecies, interpretation of tongues, and none of it was required to be inscripturated. And yet it was a movement of the Holy Spirit. So there is a form of spiritual gift, charismatic, that are for the church that are not meant to be inscripturated.

It's very simple. It's right there in 1 Corinthians 14. And what they'll do is they'll go to 1 Corinthians 13, 8 through 12, and they want to talk about when the perfect comes, the imperfect shall pass away. And the perfect means the Bible. Well, it can't mean that, and I can show you why. And I go through, and I have my arguments.

And I debate on it, and I'd be glad to debate him and others on it. They cannot demonstrate cessationism from the Bible. They cannot. They have to read into the text, and I'm saying that. But they're going to say that I'm reading into the text. Now, the daughters of Philip, is that another perfect example? The daughters of Philip prophesying?

The daughters of Philip? Well, you know, we have to look at the context and things like that, but they might say that it wouldn't apply because they were still writing the canon. And so you could have the prophecy in that because the canon wasn't complete. But then I'm going to ask questions. So the charismatic gifts were until the canon was completed, right?

Yes. Well, first of all, show me in Scripture where a charismatic gift violates the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture. Since in 1 Corinthians 14, the charismatic gifts were operating, and it didn't there.

Why does it now? Show me that. They can't answer that one, okay? So it's an implication that they have charismatic gifts means that it threatens the canon. No, it doesn't. And besides that, 1 Corinthians 1 says that the church is not to lack any charisma while you're waiting for the return of Christ.

Any. So what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Once, get this, I was in seminary once, and I've had a couple of experiences in seminary, which is a reformed seminary, Calvinist seminary, and I love my brothers there and sisters who went. And this one very hardcore Calvinist, and I had a discussion, and I mentioned once, if I remember correctly it was about this, I mentioned how once I prophesied. And I did.

And it was in great detail, and it came to pass. And so it's not a hearsay, but it's something that happened, and it only happened to me like that one time in my entire life, very specific, and it occurred. And I gave it to him, I told him what happened, and this is how it happened, this is it, this is what I said, I remember it very well, and he said to me, it never happened, and he walked away. Oh wow. I was dumbfounded. I said, what do you mean never happened? I'm telling you what happened. He didn't want to discuss it.

So some people have these ideas that cannot be attacked because they identify with them. And Justin does because of what he does. And I'm not knocking Justin, he's a great guy. I've had him on my show here, and he and I have ministered together, he's a great guy. But he does this so much, and he does such a very good job with the issue of the wacko charismatic teachers. I don't blame him for wanting to move the other side so much. It just makes sense. Oh yeah, I greatly appreciate Justin Peters' ministry, and I consider him a brother in Christ.

I do understand that he calls himself a card-carrying sensation, and so I would understand his strong opinions on that. Yeah, that's okay, it's all right. Okay, buddy? All right, appreciate it, man. All right, you're like, God bless. All right, look at this, Janet from Raleigh, North Carolina. Janet, welcome, you're on the air.

Thank you, I'm going to make it real quick because I know we're almost out of time. I just noticed that in the scriptures there are only men angels, and I just want to know if there's any kind of inference we can make for the role of women based on that fact. Well, there are no women angels because they're making celestial sandwiches, and they're busy doing that, that's a really bad joke. No, all the angels of the Bible reference is male.

The only place where it might be considered to be contrary to that is in Zechariah chapter 5. And it talks about, there's debate about it, about a woman sitting inside the ephah, and then he said this is wickedness, and he threw her down into the middle of the ephah and cast her lead weight on its opening, or the lead weight on its opening, and then lifted up my eyes and looked, and there were two women were coming out with the wind in their wings, and they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens. I said to the angel who was speaking, where are they taking the ephah? So some people think that those are angels, but not necessarily. Oh, we really don't know, right? Well, one commentator can say, there are different commentators who say, no, those are demonic forces, and the other ones say those are the providence of God.

So which is it? We don't know. But this is the closest that I'm aware of in the Bible where it might imply a feminine aspect to an angelic realm, but even then, it's a weak position to hang the hat on, because it's a vision that has a female with wings. Well, it doesn't mean they're angels. It could just be a female with wings vision, as there could be a donkey that talks, or it could have gold that would fly, or as a revelation, there are so many symbols and things like that. Well, in the scripture, it talks about angels being messengers, so does that mean women can't be messengers? No, that would be equivocation, because if you were to give me a message to my wife, I'm a messenger. But it doesn't mean that I'm an angel, even though the word angel in Greek means messenger, in Hebrew, I mean, and we've got to be careful not to play with the word.

When we say an angel, we're talking about that, because an angel is a messenger, and then the word is used in different senses, so we've got to be careful, okay? Make sense? Okay, okay.

Yeah, it does. Thanks so much, Matt. Sure, no problem at all. Alright, God bless you. Have a great evening. Okay, bye-bye. Okay, goodbye.

Let's get to Nick from North Carolina, who is gone. He had a comment on the issue of lying earlier. Alright, I might as well just end on that, because he was going to ask, so we've got about a minute left. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're a Christian, and if you claim the name of Christ, don't lie. Don't commit a white lie. Don't lie. I remember once I was at a job, and a boss wanted me to say that when someone called, had me tell them, he's not here, and I flat out told him, I can't say that because you are here.

That would be a lie. He looked at me and said, you won't say that. I said, no, I won't. I can say, you're not available, but I won't say you're not here, and he says, okay, that works. See, I'm not going to say you're not here. If he's here, I'll say he's not available, and that's okay, because he's not available, and that works. Find a way to speak the truth, but don't lie. Period.

And don't justify lying because of circumstances. Hey folks, we're at a time where the Lord bless you by his great, great grace. We'll be back on air tomorrow, and I hope you have a great evening. Talk to you later for a couple hours. Bye.