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Do You Believe Tyreek Hill? (Hour 3)

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April 6, 2023 9:25 pm

Do You Believe Tyreek Hill? (Hour 3)

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April 6, 2023 9:25 pm

Predicting the top 5 picks in the NFL Draft l QB Carousel: Carrington Harrison, 610 Sports Radio Kansas City l Do you believe that Tyreek Hill & Aaron Donald will retire soon?


Yo, yo, it is the Zach Gelb show coast to coast on CBS Sports Radio. So Chris Mortensen yesterday said Bryce Young is going to be the pick. That's who he believes is going to be the number one overall pick from I guess people that he talks to. Now he did walk it back a little bit in that clip picky where he starts off by basically saying Bryce Young is going to be the pick and he goes, they haven't made their final decision yet. So that kind of did get me a bit confused, but the betting odds now are listed as the same for Bryce Young and CJ Stroud to be the number one overall pick in this upcoming draft.

So they do have the same odds. I still don't know which way that this is going to go. You know it's either going to be Bryce Young or CJ Stroud.

I keep on going back and forth. But then Lance Serline, who's covered the NFL forever, does a great job covering the draft for NFL Network, host a local talk show each and every day in the Houston area. He was saying don't be surprised if Bryce Young is the number one overall pick and then the Texans with Bryce Young off the board then elect to punt on taking a quarterback.

Now two things I'll say on that. I still think it's 50-50, and I know that's not a great radio answer, on if it's going to be Bryce Young or CJ Stroud with the number one pick. If I had to lean one way or another, and maybe I'll be wrong here, but CJ Stroud was the name from the start that was leaked out the moment the Panthers moved up to number one overall pick. Now with that being said, remember Mac Jones is the first name that was leaked out when you had the 49ers move up to number three and it ended up being Trey Lance. So just because it's the first name that's leaked out doesn't always mean that it's going to be the pick. But Hickey, when you see the way that, and I'm not saying they had a bad meeting or bad conversations with Bryce Young, and we both feel the same way, Bryce Young should be the number one overall pick in the draft. We'll see if he will end up being the number one overall pick in the draft.

But you go back to that pro day for CJ Stroud, didn't it look like it was a slam dunk? At least if it was up to Josh McCown talking about when they're going to play pickup basketball in the Charlotte area. And then just the way that Josh McCown looked like, if it was up to Josh McCown, I think it's pretty clear CJ Stroud will be the quarterback. But just because Josh McCown is your quarterback coach wants him doesn't mean that that's going to be the pick because you have David Tepper, you got Scott Fitterer, you got Frank Reich as well. And others that are going to be a part of this decision making process. That's happened. You got a lot of cooks in the kitchen and a lot of people trying to chime in on the decision, which is a little concerning with the Panthers.

But at the end of the day, I'm with you. I do think it will be CJ Stroud when the pick is finally in in about three weeks, I think three weeks from today, actually. Yeah. So I think we will hear CJ Stroud's name called. And by the way, this is probably not the best way to do it, but we have talked about this before on the air. And I was not planning that just impromptu with you laying it out so eloquently that the draft is in three weeks. I guess we have a big show announcement. We are going to the draft again this year. The plan is we will be doing the show Wednesday at an affiliate and then Thursday and Friday we'll be doing the show live from the draft. So we will be at the draft, more details to come on information and who's hosting the show and all that other stuff. But I know we will be at the draft Thursday, Friday, and we'll also do a broadcast on Wednesday from Kansas City as well.

So, Hickey, get ready for those mock drafts, get ready for those instant reactions and also get ready for the barbecue. But I have to watch you extra carefully now taking you on the road because as DA said, you've been developing this shock jock bad boy image, which actually could be fun for this trip, but I got to make sure that you don't get out of hand and you don't do something stupid on the road. Well, you know my new motto, WWHSD, what would Howard Stern do? If Howard Stern would do it, I'm going to do it. So that you can say, you built the monster, you could say maybe the monster just developed inside of me, but now my new idol in radio is a great Howard Stern. Yeah, and you're not even a pimple on the fanny of Howard Stern as Christopher Mad Dog Russo would say. Oh, that's for sure. But in my head, I am Howard and that is not good for terrestrial radio, that's for sure.

Okay, that's wonderful. Hickey, I can see the Barrett Sports Media article now. Take notice, Ryan Hickey says he's the next Howard Stern. Oh, geez. I won't even try to do a Howard Stern impersonation just to save him, but I can only imagine if he ever sees that article, what he would say.

He would never read it. Yeah, nice things, that's for sure. I actually know Howard Stern's daughter. She worked at the sleepaway camp that I attended. She was the drama teacher. I think her name is Emily, all these years ago, very long time ago.

A very, very, very nice person. But anyway, we're going to draft, going to be a whole lot of fun. Now, back to our conversation about trying to figure out who these draft picks are going to be. If, let's just say, we're both wrong, that it's not CJ Stroud being the number one overall pick, which you know our rule of thumb.

If Hickey's saying something, if I'm saying something and it's the same thing, fade, fade, fade, fade, fade. So Carolina fans, get ready. It's probably going to be Bryce Young. So if Bryce Young is the number one overall pick, will the Texans have the Cajones to not take a quarterback at two?

What do you think about that? I think they would. I don't think they would take CJ Stroud.

Why not? Because you look who CJ Stroud is associated with, his agent, Deshaun Watson's agent, his quarterback coach, Deshaun Watson's quarterback coach. I think that's enough to where they would say we're not getting involved in this again, even though Deshaun Watson and CJ Stroud are two separate people.

Yeah, I think that's crazy. But don't forget, before everything off the field came out about Deshaun Watson, he signed the extension and then that January he wanted out. He wanted out even before everything came to a head as it did. He was done with the Texans. I think personally, those two connections are enough for the Texans to say we're not going down this road again.

Okay, I vehemently disagree on that. But just because it's not like, let's say you're right that they don't want to take CJ Stroud. You don't think they're going to take a quarterback altogether? You don't think they're taking Anthony Richardson?

Well, if you don't like Anthony Richardson, if you're not a Will Levis fan, you're not going to take one just to take one. I think they're absolutely taking a quarterback. Now you can argue, I think this would be your best argument if you're going to say they're not going to take CJ Stroud at two.

I think your best argument would be then they'll play out this year, even though they have improved this roster, they're still nowhere close to being a football team that you look at and you really expect much out of. And especially if you're starting next year, their quarterbacks on the roster right now are Davis Mills and Case Keenum. You want to guess who the third string quarterback is, by the way? You have any idea who the third string quarterback is?

Because you were the same guy that said that Cam, there's not a team in the league that would need Cam on their roster to even be like a third string quarterback. You want to guess who the third string quarterback is right now? I'm guessing it's some no-name scrub, so I won't even take an attempt at a guess. Who is it?

He played at Brown. I couldn't tell you. EJ Perry. I never would have guessed that. You gave me literally a million guesses.

We could have been sitting here for years. I never would have gotten EJ Perry. And you're Mr. College Football. Brown. Yeah, I can't say I'm too caught up on Brown University quarterbacks.

Yeah. So anyway, I think your argument would be if let's say Young goes one and they don't love CJ Stroud, which could be the case, that if you're starting Davis Mills, Case Keenum, or the extremely famous EJ Perry, that you're probably going to be in that top five boat once again. I know that's a dangerous game to play, but next year, Caleb Williams, Drake May. And it was Daniel Jeremiah who joined us who said if Caleb Williams and Drake May were in this draft class, that they would go still one and two, even with how much Daniel Jeremiah thinks that highly of Bryce Young as a quarterback. So maybe that would be the play for the Texans. If they only love Young, then they do pass up on a quarterback.

And it's a trickery, tricky kind of game, a slippery slope. But then you bank on being in the top five next year and moving up because maybe you trade back from two to another team that wants a quarterback. And and maybe you get some extra resources and then you could have all the resources, even if you're not in the in the top two picks next year to go move up to go get Caleb Williams or Drake May. Right. So don't take a quarterback, just take a quarterback. I'm just saying that's the argument.

I'm not saying that's the argument I'm making, but I'm saying if I was making your argument, that's what I would do. I asked Sean Pendergast today, who I like a lot. Sean does a tremendous job here for CBS Sports Radio and then his Monday through Friday job is hosting with Seth Payne on 610 Sports in Houston. And I just asked him straight up and I'll trust Sean Pendergast on. I said, do you think the Texans would pass on Stroud? I asked him specifically if Young is the pick at one.

And he said, I do not. So I do think we're going to see Stroud, Young, the first two picks. It just depends on what the order is going to be. And I do believe that the Texans would draft CJ Stroud if Bryce Young does go one. Now, if we had to do the first five picks of this draft, Tiki, right now, who would be your first five picks of the draft? So Carolina Panthers were both in agreement that it's CJ Stroud? Yes.

Okay. Just wondering if Young did go one, you just said you're not taking a quarterback two if you're the Texans, who would you then draft? I think they would trade down. You do think they would trade down? Yes. But if they had to make a pick, who do you think, would it be Will Anderson?

Yeah, I really want to say Jalen Carter, but I would probably say Will Anderson. Okay. So let's just go now in order. Panthers one, as we said, are three weeks away from the draft. We're both saying it's going to be CJ Stroud, correct Amundo?

Yes, sir. All right, two. Then we're both going, I'm assuming Bryce Young with the Houston Texans. Now, three, I'm going to say Raiders trade up, Raiders select Anthony Richardson. I agree.

You're doing the same thing? Yes, I think that's the team that trades up. Wow. Then in at four, what do the Colts do? I'll let you go first because I know who I'm picking them. I don't think they take Will Loves. Maybe I'm wrong. I think they- Hendon Hooker? Take the best available quarterback, or best available player, I'm sorry. So, and they, they are big on character.

Look how flustered you are, by the way. I think Jalen Carter are probably off their board at this point. Yeah. Very big on character when Jim Mercy is their owner, yeah. Chris Ballard is, and he's always making the choices.

Oh, okay. So yeah, I think we're looking at edge rush, defensive line. This draft has really messed you up.

You can't even formulate a sentence when I ask you about this question. Well, unfortunately, that's what happens when you set your sights on Bryce Young and they get crushed right in front of your eyes. Okay, so who are you going with at number four? We'll go Tyree Wilson. Why not Will Anderson at that point? He's off the board, isn't he?

No, didn't you just, didn't you just, you just had- Oh yeah, that's right. So I was still talking before about the Texans trading out. You're really messed up by this Colts thing where you just told me you think the third overall pick is going to be Anthony Richardson to the Raiders. And you're like, well, Anderson's off the board. Yes. So well, it was before, I don't know why I was still fixated on the Texans sitting there. I gotta stand up here. Are you drinking again? No, no, sir.

You sure? I will say that a pick for the Colts take Will Anderson Jr. of Alabama. Gotcha. I'm going pick number four, the Indianapolis Colts select Atta Kentucky, get your mayo in your coffee, Will Levis. I think we're seeing quarterbacks go one, two, three, four in this draft. Now, fifth pick Seahawks, who you rolling with? I don't think they take a quarterback. I'll say Tyree Wilson. Gotcha. Not Jalen Carter in that spot.

No. I think they would be interested in drafting Jalen Carter, but since Will Anderson still available, and I think he's the safer play, I'm going to go Will Anderson with the Seahawks. So my five picks right now, three weeks away from the draft, CJ Stroud going one to the Panthers, two Bryce Young going to the Texans, three Raiders trading up, Cardinals falling back, Raiders select Anthony Richardson, the Colts taking Will Levis, and then the Seahawks drafting Will Anderson. Now I'm going to attempt, I can't even recite who your five picks were because you threw me in a loop. So give me your five picks again.

It was CJ Stroud, number one to the Panthers, Bryce Young, number two to the Texans, number three, Anthony Richardson to the Raiders, Colts take Will Levis, sorry, Will Anderson, Will Anderson and number four, and then Tyree Wilson going five to the Seahawks. Man, this is, I'm actually concerned. My biggest concern is going to the draft with you.

If you're getting this like crazy already and this fluster, but you can't even get to this simple exercise. I don't know what's going to happen when the Colts are on the clock and maybe they take Will Levis or they do something that you don't like. I think that's a big time problem. This is a problem for the Colts because for me, apathy is set in. Problem for you. I've waved the white flag.

You're defeated. I am. I liked it better when you walked into a year all hopeful and we could just all predict how you were going to be wrong and then we get to tear you down. I'm actually upset. Well, now it's Will Anderson Jr. Hope you win two games and hope Caleb Williams is in that nice Colts blue number 13 next year. You're already going for Caleb Williams. You guys aren't going to be that bad, where you're the number one overall.

You know that, right? Gardner Minshew, a quarterback, he executed one of the most perfect tanks. So did the Jaguars with Gardner Minshew, a quarterback two years ago, one to 15. Yeah, but outside of the Jaguars, that's your only strong team in that division. And Tennessee South was not exactly that strong or menacing when the Jaguars tanked. Weren't the, weren't the Colts a playoff team that year?

They were. And Tennessee was also a playoff team. And the Texans stunk.

Yeah. So that's only one beat the Colts. I'm just saying for their one win. I'm just saying, I don't think you guys, even without bad, your eyes still don't think you're the worst team in that division. You got Jonathan Taylor, you got a solid defense. Like you'll be able to win like six, seven games that will take you out of the number one pick spot. We'll see. I thought they were a good team last year too.

And the wheels came off fast. You think they're a good team though every year. So now when you think they're like the worst team in the league. Everyone last year picked the Colts to win the division. It wasn't like it was me on an island saying, Oh, the Colts are good. The Colts are good. You say the Colts are a good team.

Well, they're in the mix every year. Everyone has picked them to win the division last year. Two years ago, they should have made the playoffs and collapsed on the strike, but it wasn't like that. They were this bad team all out of the gate. They had like a 99% chance to make the playoffs going into week 16 or week at that point, week 17 and blew it. But your confidence in 2021, your confidence, I don't need a history list. So I'm saying like they were like, it's not crazy for me to last for years to say that they are a good team.

But you take it to an extreme level. The Colts are a great team. You speak very arrogantly about them. And now it's like, you're down and out that this is going to be, you're already convinced they're going to be the worst team in the league and get to the number one overall pick. You're not getting the number one overall pick this year. Okay.

Okay. I know why you're saying that because you don't want me to have Caleb Williams. So I know where the source of your quote unquote optimism is coming from. I told you what I, what I didn't think they were as great as the way that you were making them out to be that that wasn't going to be the case. I'm just, I'm just saying you, you, there are worse teams and the Colts entering this season to think that you're going to get the number one overall pick.

It's just, I'm telling you once again, you're going down this road. As I told you with Bryce young, you were not going to trade up to get him because it was unlikely. It is unlikely that you're going to get the number one overall pick. Okay, man, I look around the league.

There's not that many teams on paper right now that are guaranteed worse than them. Okay. Hey, you know what?

Maybe I should have suspended you. I'm going to be like, I'm not trying to like sit here and like try and make this team worse than it is, but like you look around the league, like it's not clear and obvious that there's five teams that are worse right now than the Colts folks. Just wait a few months when he starts to talk him up, being like, all right, dark chords, chance to make the playoffs.

We don't have, we'll eventually be coming from Hickey. Carrington Harrison will join us next at Gelb show CBS sports. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. The Superbowl is over, but the NFL quarterback carousel is just beginning. You could ask yourself a question.

Do I feel lucky? What does the future hold for all 32 NFL teams at the QB position? Now I'm going to give you an opportunity to spin this wheel right here. Let's spin the wheel and find out which teams we hit today.

The Kansas city chiefs. All right, let's check in with our pal Carrington. Harrison is a great job. Host here at CBS sports radio.

And you catch him out afternoon drive in Kansas city. He joins us right now. Carrington, how you been? Zach Gelb.

No one has had me on to talk about the chief's quarterback carousel since probably, I don't know, 2012. I don't even really know what I'm doing on your show, but a Ryan Hickey was like, Hey, Gelb wants you on. And I'm like, you know what? I will get up from eating dinner with my mom to talk to Zach Gelb. And he was like, Oh, it's about quarterbacks for the chiefs.

And I'm like, what is there to talk about? The chiefs have the greatest quarterback we have ever seen. Well, you have to hit it all 32 teams.

So we have to do one day of Kansas city. I am intrigued though. And I appreciate the kind words. What are you eating with mom right now? What's on the dinner plate? So it was like a little reverse happy hour. I actually just got some wings.

They were a living garlic butter or whatever. They had literally just come out and then I saw my phone was ringing. I was like, Oh yeah, let me go talk to Zach Gelb.

So I am excited to talk to you next time you do this. You know what? I would talk to Las Vegas. Quite. They need extra attention to their quarterback. Denver needs extra attention, quarterback issue, not Kansas city. So we'll keep on the food topic and then we'll delve into the Kansas city chiefs as well. Just for a second character.

Harrison is here with us. I just said about 30 minutes ago, we are actually coming to your town for the NFL draft coming up in three weeks. Where are the places I have to go? Like he had to give me two meal recommendations.

Where must I go? Yeah, no, I just heard about this. I heard this while I was waiting on hold. I'm going to show you the best barbecue that you've ever had. Cause I don't know if you've been to Kansas city before. So whatever you, whatever you get here, we're going to go on the tour. We're going to gates.

We're going to Jack staff. We're going to Joe's Kansas city. We're going to try like there's there there's four big barbecue restaurants in Kansas city. We're going to sample each of them. And then when you go back home to the NYC, you can pick what your favorite one.

Yeah. An early case was being made for Joe's by one of our listeners, slick Reynolds. He was saying you got to go to Joe's Joe's is the place good. So the original Joe's location is actually in a gas station. I mean like a living, breathing it like it wasn't used to be a gas station.

It is still currently a gas station today. So you can go fill up and get the best barbecue sandwich that you've ever had. So when we look back at the chiefs this past year, Carrington Harrison, we'll see if we could top this conversation the rest of the way, probably not.

Cause we started off with food. Everyone was like freaking out about no Tyree kill this year. And then the chiefs go and win the super bowl. So what did this year tell you about Kansas city? When you look back at it, I actually don't know if we have given Patrick Mahomes enough credit.

I know I have in Kansas city, but I don't know if people like that. Gelb have given Patrick Mahomes enough credit for winning the super bowl with Travis Kelsey and a bunch of guys. Think about it. They had a, they had a seventh round rookie at running back Mark was about his scaling who was a 600 yard receiver. Juju Smith Schuster, who is no longer on the team.

Kaderius Tony, who you know very well, who was all the giants who they just cast away. That's going to touchdown super bowl MVP, honestly, and for being honest, he had a chance to, I mean, sky more caught his first touchdown in the NFL in the super bowl. I don't think we've given Patrick Mahomes enough credit for basically winning the super bowl with Travis Kelsey and just a bunch of random guys.

Oh, he gets a ton of credit. Now you're doing what I used to do with Tom Brady. I'm serious with Patrick Mahomes. Like, this is the thing about Mahomes. I think at this point now, let's say that Mahomes says, you know what?

I've made enough money. I don't want to play football anymore. Patrick Mahomes is one of the five greatest quarterbacks of all time at this point in his career. I don't care about longevity stats. I'm saying we all watch these games.

We know these games. You cannot name five quarterbacks all time better than Patrick Mahomes. And that's with another decade to go in his career. Now you are, you are right on that. Mahomes, if he retired tomorrow, he would definitely be put in Kansas, Ohio as a first ballot hall of Famer. Also just going off the whole Mahomes and Tyree kill relationship. And I know Tyree kill said some things today.

We'll get into that in just a bit. Not that I ever doubted Kansas City. And I always thought that they would be a tough out in the playoffs. They had a great chance to get to the Super Bowl.

But I was always wondering Carrington Harrison, because you've seen their runs the last few years. They would go down big and then they would so quickly come back. That's what I was wondering if they were going to miss Tyree kill. And then to be down by 10 in the Super Bowl to Philly, who's having an unbelievable season and still come back. That's what just made it so off the charts. No, I'm with you. I mean, I would say that that's been the theme really of Patrick Mahomes career that time situation score.

None of those things seem to matter. I mean, you think back to the first Super Bowl run, they were down 24 to nothing against the Houston Texans. I mean, they were down 10 with eight minutes to go in a Super Bowl against San Francisco.

They won. You mentioned the Eagles. I thought the Eagles played as well in the first half as a team could play. And the Chiefs still found a way to win in all of these games. Like that has really been a staple of Patrick Mahomes career. I'm on this team.

So as long as we still got time on the clock, I don't care if it's 13 seconds left, like against Buffalo or eight minutes, like the Super Bowl against San Francisco, as long as we still have time on the clock, we are going to win this game. Who are the quarterbacks in the AFC that you look at? Is it just only Burrow as the only one that's just in kind of a similar or even close to being in the same category as Mahomes? I mean, I like Josh Allen. I mean, I would say with Buffalo, I think Buffalo needs to go get Bijan Robinson. I think one of the big problems with Buffalo is it's hard to ask your quarterback to be the focal point of your passing attack and also be your best running back option too. And I think what happens with Buffalo every year is you need Josh Allen to have like 370 yards a total in order to win. Like Patrick Mahomes did not have a great numbers day in the Super Bowl. Like he didn't throw for 400 yards. He threw for 180 yards, but you can have Isaiah Pacheco who runs the ball. You can have the defense do some stuff like you can't just count on your best player to score 40 points every night in the league.

You need other guys to kind of carry their weight. I think Buffalo's biggest problem is they have Josh Allen to do everything offensively and if he does it, they can't win. I know the Chiefs, they had the last pick in the draft.

They win the Super Bowl. They're sitting at 31 just because you have the pick taken away from Miami. I know it's kind of tough to have a lot of draft conversation when you're picking last in the first round, but what has kind of been some of the talking points on this draft for Kansas City? I mean, right now it's been wide receiver.

Honestly. I mean, a lot of people are sort of waiting to see what's going to happen at the number one wide receiver me right now. They only have one wide receiver who was on his second contract in the league and that's MVS. Can you go into a season with Mark was valid as scaling as your number one wide receiver. So I think they still need a wide receiver. Are they going to address it with Odell Beckham? Are they going to address it with DeAndre Hopkins or are they going to go get a wide receiver? I really like Quentin Quentin Johnson out of teach you.

I think a lot of cheese fans are warm on him. I think Jackson Smith and jibba from Ohio State makes a lot of sense. I don't know if he's going to fall in a range in which Kansas City could realistically move up to get him, but a lot of the conversation with the Chiefs has been about wide receiver and that appears to be their biggest weakness right now pass rush a little bit, but that's something you can address in the draft or, you know, there's always going to be that veteran pass rusher. You can get a wide receiver not picking up juju Smith Schuster.

I really wanted to Kobe Myers DJ shark ended up going back to Carolina. This team really needs a true number one wide receiver. I think Odell is going to link up with Rogers and go to the Jets whenever that deal gets done. Hopkins is the name that I've been saying it. I think Hopkins going to wind up in Kansas City.

That's just based off gut feel. Yeah, but the thing with DeAndre Hopkins is going to be what's the cost to acquire him? Like, are you going to have to use a second round pick? Are you going to get him for a fourth round pick? And is he going to be willing to restructure his contract? I'm not super interested in DeAndre Hopkins at what we've heard.

He's going to command. I'm not giving you a second round pick for a 31 year old wide receiver who has played 19 games in the last two years. Why not though? Because you guys are in the penthouse.

You could do whatever, whatever you want right now. And if he can stay healthy, you know, that's going to be off the charts with my homes. It just, just how the chiefs have been built in the moves that they've made. It would be one of the more risky moves that they made. It's not like, I know you're a big Patriots guy. We're not talking about DeAndre Hopkins as a free agent right now. You can get them on a one year, $6 million deal.

Sure. Take the flyer for DeAndre Hopkins. We're talking about, you've got to trade something for DeAndre Hopkins and you got to negotiate a contract with them. It just, it just seems like a lot for a guy who pours ACL less than 18 months ago and then missed six games last year because of a suspension. Like I, I, right now I wonder with DeAndre Hopkins, if there are more questions than answers and you and I both know this football is best played by people ages 24 to 27. He's 31 years old.

Like you are sort of in a race against time. How much does he have left in the tank? Do you actually believe Tyree kill when he said today that this is, this is going to be his last contract with the dolphins? I think Tyree killed just like being in the headline last year.

He said last year, he said that Tua was the most accurate quarterback that he's ever played with. Like this is just what Tyree kill does Tyree kill in the off season. He just starts talking and then we're talking about Tyree kill.

And he said he wanted to quit to do Twitch. It's just, no, I don't last season. I spent my whole off season last year hanging on every word of Tyree kill.

I refuse to do it again. Tyree kill shows the bag over winning and there's nothing wrong with that. You got your $120 million. You got a lot of guaranteed money. I hope you're happy with winning nine games and never advancing in the playoffs. But you know that he misses Kansas city. There's no way you can't miss the chiefs of what they're doing.

He could have signed. This is the thing that can, you know, this, all of us have been offered jobs or you change jobs. Whenever you reach that point, we see what you value most. Do you value work environment? Do you value four week or four day work weeks?

Like you're, you're allowed to decide to take a job for whatever reason you want. The chiefs have made one thing clear. There is a tax to playing on the chiefs. Everybody can't be the highest paid player at their position. We aren't the Rams. We're not going to have Stafford making big money and Aaron Donald making big money and Cooper cup and all of these.

You're going to have to take 85% to be on the team. You can still be incredibly rich. You can still be incredibly wealthy, but you're not going to be able to say you are the highest paid player at your position. That's what Tyree kill valued more than winning championships more than playing on a team that has a chance to compete every single year. He wanted to be the highest pay wide receiver at $30 million a year. That comes at a cost go win eight or nine games every year, miss the playoffs and be happy with that. Carrington Harrison, before we let you run Andy Reed, 65, how much longer do you think he's going to coach for? That's a great question. I mean, I don't know how you can walk away with things the way they are in Kansas city.

I mean, think about it. You've got a super passionate fan base. You've got a great ownership group, you and the general manager on the same page.

You've got one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. I mean, as long as you were healthy, why are you walking away anytime soon? I mean, I'd probably set the over under at four and a half years and him coaching until his seventies and probably take the over. But we also know things can change. Look what happened with bill self bill self appeared to be healthy and then, and then couldn't coach in the NCAA tournament. So I don't know if any of us can say definitive because things change so quickly. But if you're asking me right now, four and a half years for a degree, would you take the over the under?

I take the flight over and let's say he retires at like 72. Do you agree that the enemy left Kansas city with the idea that he feels he felt like he had to go somewhere else to be considered for a head coaching job again? I mean, I don't know how anybody could see that and not come to that same conclusion that you came to.

Like, I don't even know what the other side of the argument would be like, it seems fairly obvious to me. And this is the thing. And you know what?

I feel good about this because I can say this and then you'll hang up the phone and you got to deal with it. Give me one white coach who had to go through this process. Like we never asked Josh McDaniel, Hey, Josh, you know what you got to do? You got to go be an offensive coordinator for another team. You can't be under Tom Brady and bill Bella check for you to earn this job. Like just give me one white coach with the, with the resume that Eric B enemy that had to prove himself at another location. You're telling me that Eric B enemies employment to be a head coach is now based on Sam how that that's what it's based on. Not based on anything he did in Kansas city. I just want to know why we saw Doug Peterson get so much credit for the success. I want to see why Matt Nagy gets so much credit for the success. Mike Kafka, who we know eventually is going to be a head coach in the league. How do all these coaches get all this credit, but yet Eric B enemy has to go through another unnecessary step to prove that he's worthy of being a head coach.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Let me ask you this. Does Nagy get a head coaching job again now being the offensive coordinator in Kansas city before he gets his first a hundred percent gelled. He is a white offensive coordinator who had a winning record with the bears.

Yes. We know how this ends. He's now the offensive coordinator of the chief for the next two years. He'll be the hot candidate. People will say, well, he wasn't that bad with Chicago. Look who we had. He had, he had Mitch Trubisky as his quarterback.

You should hire him. There's no way that Matt Nagy only gets one chance in the NFL. He was, I mean, think about how bad Josh McDaniel was with the Broncos. He got another chance to be an offensive coordinator with the Raiders and is doing the exact same stuff.

Yes. Matt Nagy will absolutely be a head coach again in the national football league in the next two seasons. Will be enemy ever be a head coach in this league? I mean, I'm going to say no at this point. Like it's kind of one of those things.

Like the more hoops you create, eventually you just trip up. Like I just don't know what Washington has to do next season in order for a team that has already interviewed Eric B enemy to finally say yes. You know, like he's been doing this for three news cycles last year. He wasn't even the minority candidate anymore. Like there was a time there where he was kind of the example of the Rudy rule and the media was pushing them.

That was, that was the Mico rise this year. So I mean, what, what is Washington? Like Washington probably has to make the playoffs. The Washington commanders have to make the playoffs in order for Eric, for you to me to get a job.

I'm just going to get that the commanders don't make the playoffs this year. Well, enjoy those wings with mom and I'll see you in three weeks. So we'll go on the, on the barbecue tour.

I appreciate you, my guy. You got it. There he is. Carrington Harrison joining us on CBS sports radio. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. Zach Gelb shows CBS sports radio.

Hickey. I got to get into this Tyree kill stuff. And I think Carrington Harrison hit the nail right on the head. Tyree kill just loves having himself in the conversation. I don't think there's a chance and don't get me wrong.

I get it. He's won. He's made all the money in the world.

Quality of life is really not conducive to get in your head, dashed in as a football player. I don't think though in what I think his contract expires three years from now that Tyree kill is going to be walking away and, and leaving the national football league. Like he claims that this will be his final contract and only contract with the Miami dolphins. I would agree, especially if he continues his high level of play and the dolphins in a year or two want to renegotiate, or he wants to renegotiate, seeing how well he's doing. Like if he has another year and a half or another two years like he did in 2022, and he can get another big time deal, you're going to say, he's going to turn that down just because year 10 is his cutoff date to retire. And with salaries going up too soon, make it even more than he's getting now, especially at that position.

Right. And he's 29 and he just turned 29. I would think that he's going to, he will sign another contract.

Now it may not be in Miami. It may be somewhere else, but even if it's only like a three year deal or something like that, he will sign another big contract in the NFL. You know, I'm starting to feel that way about as well, where I believed him when he said this. And I know you had the talk at the Superbowl and then this off season, you had the talk of, you know, where he basically just changes his Twitter profile and said he was retired Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald, I think he likes the drama as well. And I think we look at it differently because we hear a lot more from Tyree kill, but Aaron Donald loves to play this drama game as well. And I don't think Aaron Donald is going to retire as, as quickly as he claims as well. Cause Aaron Donald basically made it seem like when he was on with this last year and the questions that he would answer before a PR person would interrupt us, that he pretty much gave the indication that he was locked in for last year and then this upcoming year as well. And then after that, he kind of, of alluded to the point that, that he would retire, but I don't think that's going to be the case either.

I know his play was, was bogged down this year because of injury, but he's, he's still only 31 years old as well. I believe him more because of the timing. Like if you are after reaching the pinnacle of your career and winning a Superbowl, you're really truly debating.

Do I call it a career or do I come back? I think you're serious about it. The same thing and McVeigh for some reason is back this year. Right now. Sure. Yes. I think also coaching is in his blood and I'm not sure that he's when he saw the light kind of almost like Tom Brady at the other end of when you're not coaching every day, what else are you going to do? I can see Aaron Donald who's playing the game physically taxing. Yeah.

I can see him hanging it up a lot, you know, still on his timeline of a year or two. Okay. Then why did this off season or not? It wasn't even officially an off season emoji. I know the Rams didn't make the playoffs, but that was, I'm pretty sure it was wildcard weekend.

It was a wildcard division around weekend. When he changes his bio to former NFL defensive tackle or former Rams player, that's someone that's looking for attention. When you're out of the news cycle, out of the news cycle, your team isn't in the post season. Oh, let me just quickly have my team or him do it himself.

Change his, his bio. Like that part doesn't make any sense to me. And Rodney Harrison wasn't supposed to, to reveal the details of the conversation before the super ball. And you know, the guy, Aaron Donald's really starting to become unbelievable with the retirement stuff where I was in lockstep with you a year ago.

Yeah. He's going to be done soon. Heck I even said it this off season and wouldn't surprise surprise me if he walked away this off season, but the more and more you think about it and the more and more you kind of compare it to Tyree kill, who's, who's now doing something similar, basically setting up his retirement. I don't believe for Tyree kill. So now I really shouldn't believe for Aaron Donald, especially when right before the super bowl, you get that news out and then this off season or the start of the off season, when your team doesn't make the playoffs, you're changing your bio saying you're retired when everyone knows that's not the case.

I mean, I got nothing on that. The only thing I guess I'll say is if maybe his future is tied to McVay in a sense that McVay was walking away. I can see him saying, you know what, fine.

I'm out of here. Like this is a new phase of the Rams and I want a super bowl. They're going to go into rebuild mode and I'm not going to be there for that. I don't know if it was an emotional thing where maybe he heard reports that McVay is actually going to retire. So that's why he changed it to former retired. What the exact word was in his Twitter bio, but moving on, maybe only wants to be a Ram for his entire career. But I still think definitely within two years, he'll be retired. I could see him playing somewhere else. Like if you tell me McVay walks away or Stafford gets traded and his contract runs up after the 2024 season, then I could see him playing somewhere else to wrap up his career. That wouldn't shock me, but I don't think he's retiring when his contract expires after the 2024 season. I just, I don't.

And even though it's for a defense tackle, it'd be what 33 at that, at that stage, you know, that would not, it would not stun me if he says it's over. I just would not expect it at this point because these guys love attention. I know this has a negative connotation being an attention whore, but Tyree kill loves the attention. Aaron Donald, even though he's more low key, he loves the attention.

Sean McVay loves the attention. And when you keep on crying, Wolf said, I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire.

Eventually you're going to retire, but I don't think it's as early as what both those players are making us are leading us to believe that they're going to retire Tyree kill in three years. And Aaron Donald, I guess after this season or the year after that, it is the Zach Gelb show on CBS sports radio. We will take a five minute break. When we do come on back, we've got to update you on some of the biggest topics of the day. Some of the biggest stories of the day with some audio. We call that segment. The news brief will do that. When we come on back in five minutes, you could always follow the Zach Gelb show on Twitter and Instagram at Zach Gelb. That's very simply Z-A-C-H G-E-L-B coming on back.
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