Joe Benigno, Oh The Pain Podcast

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Tuvala.com. Step right up here. Don't be shy. The Super Bowl is over, but the NFL quarterback carousel is just beginning. You could ask yourself a question.

Do I feel lucky? What does the future hold for all 32 NFL teams at the QB position? Now I'm going to give you an opportunity to spin this wheel right here. Let's spin the wheel and find out which teams we hit today. The New York Jets. All right, EJTS Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets time. Let's welcome in the biggest Jets fan I know and an absolute legend in the radio business.

That's the great Joe Beningo. Joe, how are you? Zach. We're shaking, bro. How you doing?

I'm doing fantastic. I got to start you off with Rodgers. Do you want Rodgers as your quarterback? I want Rodgers.

I want Rodgers, but with that said, and you know, look, I mean, I don't know what he's doing now. I mean, maybe he's taking like a bath in the dark in his dark room. Is he still there? I mean, is he still in this? Is he still there?

I think so. It's going to be like Groundhog's Day, honestly. I mean, what is he doing in this freaking dark room, bro?

What a disaster. You know, you know, I will get to the quarterback, but I got to say this about this dark room and Evan, you know, I do a Saturday show with Evan now. He put up a good point. Let's be honest. And I want Rodgers, you know, he's an all-fame quarterback. I'll take my chances two years.

You know, we better win, but whatever. He's got a lot of Kyrie Irving in him, you know? I think that's fair. He definitely has a lot of Kyrie. I mean, he's different.

I mean, it's a different kind of insanity, if you will, but it's there. Well, at least he shows up and plays. At least Rodgers plays. Kyrie doesn't play.

He's not looking to get, you know, to move on to the next team, you know, every year and a half or so, or whatever it is, you know? What do you think goes on in this darkness retreat? Because, like, if Joe Penango was there, I think, like, you show up in your tighty whities and really just have lunch with Ariel. If I went on a darkness retreat, there would be a few things that I would need. Number one, my wife would have to be there. Number two, I would have to have music with me, without a doubt. Let's see, what else would I have?

Probably have to have my cats with me, my two wonderful cats. And maybe something else, too, that we can't really get into. But, you know, I don't think that, you know, that would be my dark room, bro. Ayahuasca, you and Rodgers? Ayahuasca, are you kidding me?

You know, when I was in college, you know, we had mescaline, we had acid, I mean, I never heard of ayahuasca. What? Come on.

What is this? Oh, my God. Here's my question for you. It's the waiting game on Rodgers. How long are you willing to wait at the expense of losing Carr? Not long enough to lose Derek Carr. So, are you a believer in Carr?

Not long enough to lose. My top two choices are Rodgers and Carr. I would be happy with either one of them. Maybe I'd be more happy with Carr, because with Carr, he's 32. He's got at least five years left.

He basically plays all the time. You know, he might be one of those guys that, you know, you free him from where he was with the Raiders, where he's basically had a new coach every year. I would, I take my shot on that.

You know, I take my shot on that. He might be the better deal for the long haul. Because with Rodgers, I'll tell you, look, if we get Rodgers, I'm going to be happy about it. Don't get me wrong. But with Rodgers, we're looking at, probably, Zach, a two-year window. That's probably it.

Not much more than that. And we got to win. I mean, let's be honest. You know, if Rodgers comes here, and we get to the AFC title game and lose, that's not good enough. And that's my thing with Rodgers. The last, outside of this year, the three years before that, 13-3, 13-3, 13-3, didn't even get to a Super Bowl.

Like, that's a concern for me. As great as he is in the regular season, the postseason, he's a bad quarterback. Look, I mean, they've lost a lot of playoff games since they won that Super Bowl back at the end of the 2010 season.

A lot. And I don't think Matt LaFleur is that great a coach anyway. You know, everybody complained about McCarthy, but McCarthy did win the Super Bowl with Rodgers.

Nobody else has. So, it's a concern. It's a concern. It's a concern that he's 38 years old.

You know, as far as the flakiness, I don't think that really is going to be an issue on the field, to be very honest with you. But, like I said, I'll be happy with Rodgers, but we got to win. Like now.

You know what I mean? Joe Benigno here with us. If I'm Carr, I heard today his brother come out and say that he's going to be patient in this process. I would kind of try to force the Jets' hand and say, I'm ready to sign with you guys and make them see if they're going to wait for Rodgers and how long that's going to be. Well, he already talked to the Saints. I don't know how, you know, I don't know how, obviously, they want their trade for him and that didn't, you know, he wouldn't let that happen. I guess the Saints are interested. I've heard Carolina's interested. You know, maybe there's a couple other teams out there that need quarterbacks. Tennessee needs a quarterback. You know, I don't know.

You know, I don't know. I don't know how that's going to play out. I like Cardo, bro. I do like him, I got to say. I got to say, in a lot of ways, he's probably the better signing than Rodgers is. Why do you like Carr so much? Because the way I look at Carr, Joe, any time he's about to show he could be a top ten quarterback in this league, he takes like three or four steps back.

Yeah, but you know what? He's had a coaching carousel over there with the Raiders. You know, the one year he might have been the MVP in the league, he winds up getting hurt at the end of the year. They lose in that playoff game to Houston. I bet it was Matt McGloin, the quarterback in that game, I think, I forget. You know, he's been through a ton of different coaches.

He had that insanity. I mean, let's look at last year. The Gruden thing, the Ruggs thing, everything that went down with all of that. And, you know, they wound up making a playoff last year with Biastucci, whatever his name is, as the coach.

You probably should have stayed as the coach. And they lost a tough game to the Bengals in the playoffs. Bro, he's 32, and you know, a lot of quarterbacks, and I've seen it many times over the years, they don't blossom until later on in their career. And he's already been a pretty good quarterback. I mean, he's been to the Pro Bowl quarterback a number of times. I would take a shot at him, and he plays.

You know, again, I mean, to me, that's a big deal. Look, I like Jimmy Garoppolo a lot, too. But Jimmy Garoppolo would never play hard all the time. You know what I mean? No, you're 100% right on Jimmy G. So, I saw Diana Rossini was on ESPN earlier, and she said the Jets made it super personal when talking about Carr. We believe if you come to New York and win, you could be a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

Like, some of that stuff, I get you got to make your pitch, but it seems like there's a real love affair the last 24-48 hours between those two. Well, good. I'm in. Then let's go. Then let's sign them. Bro, I told you, if they sign Carr tomorrow, I'm good. I'm in. I'm good to go. I'm not going to cry about Rodgers.

I'm good to go. This is my quarterback for, you know, probably at least the next five years, hopefully. You know, and he's played. I know he had that one year. Like I said, he got injured that one year when he went to the playoffs and lost. I forget what year that was.

They lost to the Texans. But, for the most part, this guy plays. And look, the best ability is availability. And, you know, I need that. I want that.

I want to see a quarterback that's going to go out there every 17 games a year and play. You know? Where are you at with that football coach and Robert Salah, Joe Benninga? I don't know.

I don't know where I am. Here's what I know, okay? My biggest concern about Salah is I think he's a much too nice a guy. I think there's something to that. I don't know how, you know, I don't know if he's tough enough on the players. Look, Zach, he's the coach he's got this year. They've got to get in the playoffs.

I mean, it really comes down to that. I think if they don't make the playoffs, he's gone. That's it. He's gone. How'd you react to the Hackett hiring at OC? It's fine. Hackett's okay.

I'm cool with that. You know, look, I mean, these guys, just because he was a bad head coach, and he really only got one year, but just because, not even a year, just because he's a bad head coach doesn't mean he's a bad coordinator. I mean, the laundry list is long of guys who were very good coordinators who were horrible head coaches. So, I don't put any stock in that whatsoever. Douglas, are you in or out? Well, I mean, he had a pretty good draft last year.

You know, it's very interesting. The first draft was terrible. You know, Makai Beckton, you know, I'm not holding my breath. We're waiting to see when he's going to finally play. He lost some weight, though, Joe. Okay, big deal.

You know, would he go to Jenny Craig? I mean, whatever. Golow?

I mean, who knows? But whatever. What I was going to say, Beckton, I mean, look, Beckton, you know, what's his name, the wide receiver that we drafted out of Baylor who's been... Oh, Daniel Mims. Mims, who Bailey plays, right? That was a second-round pick. Then we took, you know, Ashton Davis with the third round in the first year.

That first draft wasn't very good, you know. Now, the second year, let's be honest, he whiffed on the quarterback. You know, we did get Elijah Veritaco. We did get Michael Carter.

There was, you know, Elijah Moore, you know, with some decent stuff there. But he basically whiffed on the quarterback. And last year was unbelievable. I mean, we wound up with the offensive and defensive rookies of the year. Breese Hall, God knows how good Breese Hall would have been if he hadn't hurt. He probably would have won the offensive rookie of the year. Yeah, he probably would have, man.

He was on his way. I mean, he was on his way to being like a, you know, one of the great running backs. I mean, let's be honest. When running backs are, the great running backs are usually great, Zach, immediately. You know what I mean? The great ones are usually great right away. Especially, you never know how long it's going to last, too, at that position.

Well, you don't know. And now, you know, I mean, as great as he was, look, I mean, it took Barkley how many, a couple years, really, to get back to where he was in his rookie year after the injury he had. So, you know, hopefully Breese comes back and he's healthy. But, you know, the draft last year, you know, Michael Clemons, the kid Mitchell on the offensive line, Jermaine Johnson, I mean, that's a pretty damn good draft last year. No, it was a very good draft.

So, if they get Rodgers or Carr, I know you say they gotta win, but in their own division, where would you then rank them if they get Rodgers or Carr? I think they can win it. I mean, I don't think Buffalo is that. I think Buffalo is taking a step back. Okay, I really do. I think they gotta, they gotta expose, let's be honest, the Dolphins should have beat them in a playoff game.

Yeah. The Dolphins should have beat them when Tyler Thompson, if that terrible coach, you know, all the Dolphins fans love McDaniel. To me, he's terrible. Media darling Mike McDaniel, that's what I call him. Oh my God, they loved it.

They think he's Don Shuler reincarnated. All you did was lose like six games in a row, and if you didn't play the crummy Jets at the end of the year, they couldn't, you know, couldn't score in a brothel. All right, let's be honest with, you know, Joe Flacco, a hundred-year-old Joe Flacco playing quarterback, you wouldn't have made the playoffs.

And they barely won that game as it was. So, who's here to know? You know, give me a break. Give me a break with Miami.

I don't bite them at all. I think Buffalo's taking a hit. I mean, the Jets beat Buffalo once last year, probably should have beat them the second time. You know, if, if, um, White didn't get hurt in that game, by the way, I'm still waiting for the roughing the pants recall on, uh, Matt Milano, but you know, why would that happen?

Right? But anyway, um, you know, and your team, I mean, your Patriots, I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, I don't, I don't know. I don't think your quarterback's any good. I think your defense is good. Well, here's the thing. I'm very, I'm very, um, I do not know how to, your defense scores a touchdown every game. Yeah. Especially, and special teams too up against the Jets.

You know, that's always a given, but. Well, I mean, look, I'm still hurting from the John Franklin Myers roughing the pants. I was at the game. I could still see Michael Carter running down the sideline and I still can't believe they threw the flag. Give me a break.

Let me tell you right now. You think it's the same hit by, let's say, uh, whoever for your team hits. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Matthew Judon.

Exactly. Let's say Matthew Judon hits, uh, Zach Wilson, just like Franklin Myers hit Jones and it's Devin McCourty running down the sideline. Believe me, there's no roughing the pants. Nah, I would have tipped my cap to the officials that they would have called that. I always respect the officiating.

They're wonderful, Joe. You heard the commissioner. It's the greatest they've ever been. It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace. And I've had it with replay. Give me a break on replay.

I'm tired of it. How about the, how about the Super Bowl? How do you make that call? I know Brad Berry said it was raw. He was holding. You can't throw that flag.

Yeah. You can't throw that flag and decide the game. Come on. It's the Super Bowl. It wasn't week eight. Okay.

Terrible. And how about the officiating in the, in the championship games? How about the Devante Smith catch that wasn't really a catch? How about the, uh, the do all the play with the Bengals and, and, and the chiefs?

What? Come on. Last thing I'll ask you, Joe, is that replay too? I hate Zach Wilson on the roster next year for the jets. I think it depends who the quarterback is. I think if Derek cause the quarterback, Zach Wilson is not there.

I think if, and I want Mike white to be the backup no matter what, but with that said, I think if Derek cause the quarterback Zach Wilson isn't there, I think if Rogers is the quarterback, he is a chance. He is. Gotcha. All the love, Joe. You're the best Zach. God bless my best as always to, uh, your father. Okay. God bless him.