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I got a confirmation. So, England scored to make it 2-1, then the goal got waved off, and then shortly after that, in the 90th minute. I know it's not technically what we would call a buzzer beater, but it's as close as it would be to a walk-off. And England scores, and they beat the Netherlands 2-1. So, you have England and Spain in the Euro Championship. Is that what Bart said? That was Saturday, Sunday?
Do we know? That's going to be on Sunday. I believe both championship games are going to be on Sunday. Oh, so you have the Copa America, and then you have the Euro Championship all on Sunday? Man, what am I doing on Sunday? I don't think you'll be watching soccer, to be honest with you.
What will you be doing Sunday for this? Because you're a big soccer fan, Samter. I'm definitely watching Spain-England.
If I'm going to be out and about, it's going to be on my phone. Like, if you could only pick one, you would pick the Euro Championship over Copa America. For me, outside of the US, when it comes to international soccer, England is my team. Wait, you're an England fan? Well, I lived in England. I worked for a British football team. Where have you not worked or lived? I've been all over, but I worked for a British football team who now is in the Premier League.
My favorite league to watch is the Premier League, and my favorite team is Brentford, who lives in the Premier League. However, Spain, my family, my heritage is Spanish. Your family is Spanish? Yeah, Greek, Spanish, and a little bit of Polish.
I did not know that. So you will be devastated on Monday if Spain beats England? No, no, because those are my two outside of the US. It's England and Spain. But you're rooting for England? I'm rooting for England. If England loses, I'll be disappointed. But if they were to lose, to lose to Spain is like, okay, at least my other favorite team, you know, country won. I'll be upset. It sounds like that's a bad, that would be like if the Chiefs and the 49ers got to the Super Bowl this year. And I'm like, oh, if Kansas City wins, I'll be thrilled. And you know, let's just say they're my team. But if they lose and the 49ers win, oh, they're my next favorite team. I'm still going to be disappointed. I'll still be upset if England doesn't win because I really want them to win. But if they were to lose, at least they would lose to a team that I root for also that it can kind of like, you know, it's the equivalent of like betting against your team.
You win both ways. I'm sorry. I have no interest now in the Euro Championship because I wanted heartbreak from Samter on Monday. I would have been rooting for you to be walking in down in the dumps all annoyed that your team lost, but now you root for both teams. Now I'll be upset. Stu will be down in the dumps.
So you'll at least get that. Stu is an England fan? Oh yeah. Big time. Big time.
Because he's big time into the Premier League. Stu's not here. He's off next week. Stu got sick this week, then off next week. That's kind of what happened to me a couple weeks ago.
Yeah. I'm starting to wonder if you guys are actually sick, you know, like maybe this is a little, you pull a fast one on management. Oh, I got the sniffles, cough, cough, and then you take the next week off. It's amazing how both you guys ended up having this. It's a brilliant plan.
I'm not saying that it's true or not true, but I'm also saying there's not a brilliant idea. Hey, I have this week off. Let me be sick the week before and just have two weeks of straight vacation. Chris Hess, you are a hardcore, passionate sports fan. You wear your emotions on your sleeves. You live and die with your sports team. You have to be disgusted that Santa's basically saying he wins either way in the Euro championship. Yeah. I don't like that because I have not been the one to have more than one favorite team.
I mean, like, yeah, I like watching specific teams, but I will not actively pull for another team in addition to my teams. What is the most, because that is heartbreaking right there. You are tied up and you lose in basically the last minute.
You know, that is just devastation. Sometimes, even though you appreciate a good effort, if you're going to lose, you sometimes just hope, okay, you get blown out, and then you could compartmentalize those feelings, and then by the time the game is over, I'm not saying it's totally out of your system, but it's easy to come to grasp and reality with it. When you lose, like, overtime or right at the end of regulation, and there's a thought that you were going to win, that hope that you're going to win, and you basically get stabbed in the chest. Oh, you just, that's, if you're a Netherlands fan, you are sitting on your couch right now and you're not moving, and you are just totally lost, and there's post-game coverage that probably comes on, and it's just noise in the background. It's just looping and looping and looping and looping, because you're just sitting there, you don't know what to do. So, I'll ask this simple question.
I'll go around the room. Chris, what's the most demoralizing loss in your lifetime when it comes to sports? What's the first one that still pains you the most? 2008, Penn State, Iowa.
Alright, explain further. Penn State, ranked third in the country, had just beaten Ohio State and Columbus for the first time in 30 years. They stumble into Kinnick Stadium with a battered-up team. Iowa's 5-4.
This is a November Kinnick Stadium special. Penn State loses 24-23 with one second left on a 31-yard field goal. If the Iowa kicker does not make that kick, we won't be talking about Tim Tebow and the Florida Gators winning the national championship that year, because undefeated Penn State would have played undefeated Oklahoma.
Not saying Penn State would have won, probably would have gotten smoked, but thinking about, they were literally one second away from playing for a national title. So your fandom of participation state university did not start when you were in college. You were a Penn State fan well before that. I was a fan when they were 3-9 and 4-7.
Okay, so you know what? Did you go to Penn State because you were a fan of the football team? I grew up going to Penn State games. Did your family go there? No, it's a long story about how I got involved with it, but I love it. No, it's great. I wasn't going to tell it, but I love it.
It's great. Yeah, I've been going since 2003 and they were in the heart of the dark years when they were god-awful. Four losing seasons in five years, but here we are. Who do you think knows more about Penn State football? Is it Hess or is it Hickey? It's Hess by a long shot. Hickey probably knows a lot about Penn State.
It's not knocking Hickey. Hess is like a savant. He can remember like 2003 who the backup running back was and how many yards he had in week two against Rutgers. Just turned 25 last month. So how old were you in 2008? I was 9.
Think about that. Most painful loss when he was 9 years old. Yeah, but you know, that's when the most painful losses happen.
I'm 43. Losses aren't as painful anymore as they used to be. So I have always said this. Pound for pound. He's not right in terms of his predictions. But I think pound for pound, the most knowledgeable person at this network when it comes to college football is Hickey. Is it actually Chris Hess? I don't know Chris Hess's knowledge outside of Penn State.
You're just saying just Penn State. He is like an encyclopedia. He reels off to me. And Santa doesn't usually give out compliments very easily. Sometimes I'm sitting here and I'm like...
Especially with the part-timers that come in, most of them go, I don't want to work with Santa ever again. You like Chris Hess? You're a big Chris Hess advocate. I'm just saying I'll ask Chris Hess a very simple Penn State question and 35 minutes later I now know who the linebacker coach was of the 2011 Penn State Nittany Island. Yeah, Ron Vanderlinden. What about it? Come on now!
That's Santa's nice way of saying Chris talks too much. And also knows a lot about the Nittany Lions. Maybe we could do this as a summer topic. We will have a battle for Penn State. We will do Penn State trivia and see who will reign supreme between Chris Hess and Ryan Hot Take Hickey.
Santa, what's the most painful loss of your lifetime? 2001 Yankees D-backs, Game 7. Because not only was it a chance for the Yankees to... Even more so than the 3-0 choke job against the Red Sox?
Yeah, because that was a slow death. And then Game 7 was such a blowout that it just kind of like... You walked into Game 7 deflated and then it was like... It was over the third inning. First inning it was already over. But Game 7, 2001. Because A, not only are the Yankees going for the three-peat. No baseball team has three-peted...
I don't think any has ever three-peted in the MLB. However, and on top of that, 9-11. The season was suspended. This was going into November. You had the first Mr. November in Derek Jeter. And you had that single, that little bloop single. I mean you had everyone wearing FDNY hats.
You had all that stuff going into it. And you had the two incredible Yankee comebacks in Games 4 and 5. Where they hit a bomb to the ninth, two-run home runs to send it into extras and then win those games. And then to have the lead with the immortal Mariano Rivera on the mound in Game 7 in the ninth inning.
And for Moe, not only just to give up hits, but to throw an error. And for them to lose that game the way they did to Luis Gonzalez. It was heartbreaking. It was the last time I cried because of a sporting event. And that was 2001.
I was 21 years old. It was emotional for so many different reasons. And looking back, it's even more so. So that one is, like nothing could ever top that because of the emotions surrounding it as well. You knowing the teams I root for, you would guess the most painful loss for me would probably be the Patriots being 18-0 and then losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl.
Knowing you, I would not say that because I've already heard you say that the 2011 loss was more heartbreaking for you. Okay. You listen.
You pay attention. Neither of them, by the way, the most painful loss of my lifetime. Is it the Beltran not swinging for the Mets?
No. We actually sued the Mets, my family, and won some money. My dad has a metal leg. Long story short, before the game, one of my best friends growing up, you know, a few years prior to that, unfortunately got diagnosed with cancer. And, you know, he was just finally starting to get really better where you could start going out in public and doing things going to the stadium like that. So before the game, I guess his stepfather is best friends with the attorney of the Mets at the time.
I don't think he's no longer the attorney. So before the game seven, since we went all together but the tickets were split up, like two tickets in one section, two tickets in another section, it got split up, but we were all like, before the game, we were with the attorney of the Mets, the Wolfponds were there, like Omar Maniah were there. And in between innings, like it was like the third or the fourth inning, I said, you know, let's go walk over to my buddy Danny was sitting, which was like only a few sections over. So we walk over, there was like two empty seats that were there, but I guess since we were walking there, we weren't in those seats, security came over. They're like, you know, where are your tickets?
And we said, oh, a few sections over. And then the security guard's like, you guys got to go. So I was like, okay, I stood up.
I was, I was in middle school at the time. So I stood up, I was about to walk away. The next thing you know, 12 security guards. When he said you got to go, he meant we're throwing you out of the stadium, which it was so bizarre.
It's like almost like not even believable, right? The story when you hear that. So I always thought the security guard just had a bad night. Remember at Chase Stadium, they had those ramps, like it wasn't really stairs when you would walk into the same, it was just ramps. So we're walking out of the stadium, escorted by like 12 security guards. And one of the security guards, by mistake, flat tired my dad, like stepped on the back of his shoe.
But the shoe that he stepped on is, is the same leg that is the metal knee. So he fell and his, and his leg, like, you know, he suffered a cut and he was bleeding. So the Mets like kicked us out of the stadium. And, you know, long story short, we ended up suing the Mets and winning money. And it was, it was like one of the most bizarre things. So that game, even though it probably should be one of the more painful losses of my life, I was so mad at what occurred that like I couldn't even process the loss because I was just like shocked what actually happened.
So that was a, that was a quick story there. But the worst loss of my life, I've had a few really bad ones with hockey, but it's not hockey. It's the 2006 AFC Championship game. That was going to be the first Super Bowl I was ever going to attend. My dad was attending it through work and he's like, if the Patriots win, I'll take it.
I was like, oh great. The Patriots had an interception before the end of the first half for a touchdown, Ahsante Samuel. They ended up going into halftime with a 21 to 6 lead against the Colts. And growing up as a kid, Brady Manning was the biggest thing. I hated the Colts. And they lost that game in the second half. And they lost 38 to 34. I know they already won three Super Bowls at a time, but as a kid, you talk about the losses being more painful. As a kid, oh, absolutely devastated.
That to me was the most painful loss. All right, that was impromptu. I didn't think we were going to do that. But how do we even get to this conversation? I don't even know how we even got, I don't even remember how we got to this conversation.
I think I'm qualified to run for office. Oh, we were talking about soccer. This all started with soccer. Oh yeah, with the crushing loss. And then we let Chris Hess talk, and whenever Chris Hess talks, it's like Penn State this, Penn State that, and then we're like, oh, how are we going to hunt the painful losses here? We're going to have a... Sorry. No, no, I'm just kidding.
We're not actually mad at you. I think that'd be a good idea. A Penn State trivia between Chris Hess and Hot Take Hickey. You're saying Chris Hess would be the betting favorite in that?
Yeah, I think so. And again, this isn't a knock on Hickey. I have all the faith in the world in Hickey and his knowledge. Chris Hess is, I feel like, I could be wrong, a savant. Okay, a savant. Put that on the resume, Chris. Take a time out when we come on back. Ari Temkin will join us from Big 12 Media Days. He's the host of Big 12 Radio and Sirius XM.
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All right. You're rocking and rolling. This is that Gelb show on the Infinity Sports Network. Big 12 Media Day is underway. Let's go out to one of our favorites covering the Big 12.
And that, of course, is our pal, Ari Tempkin. Ari, appreciate the time, as always. How you been, my man? I'm great, Zach. How are you?
Well, I'm doing fantastic. And I appreciate you jumping on board with us. We were talking a lot yesterday about Colorado. And I said a super successful season for Coach Prime in year two would make a bowl game. But I don't expect that to happen. What is your expectations for Coach Prime's program entering this season? I expect it to happen. I do think they're a bowl team.
You know, and I think if we can have a reasonable conversation about Colorado, you know, a team that kind of lives in the margins in some ways, you know, incremental steps, you're one. Certainly the start of the season, I think, changed expectations. But for a team that had won three games in the previous two seasons, you know, to hit the over at a total of three and a half, not bad. Again, expectations change over the course of the season when things happen.
And there's reasons that expectations should have changed. And they, they faded. So they certainly weren't as good of a team as they lived early. But four wins is four wins in a total of three and a half.
So I think total this year at five and a half, I'll take the over. I think they're a bowl team. I am betting on it. I just, you know, are they a big 12 championship caliber contender?
I don't think so yet. And it's just too many unknowns. But when you're that good a quarterback, and when you have that much of a skill position, you know, despite having a really bad offensive line to give a ton of sacks last year, 50 some sacks, just an absurd number. You know, they are improved talent wise. Jordan seed and left tackle, they've they've improved their talent. But it's obvious football, especially along the offensive line is way more than that.
Can it come together? But again, like this is just more talent on the offensive line that last year. So they should be better. Well, they and that's, that's, you know, that's again, why you probably can't pick them at a higher ceiling than that. But anytime I got the quarterback and the weapons that they have, you know, that's a team that could score a ton of points in the league. So we'll see. But yeah, I like them to be both team.
I do. What do you think should doors ceiling is? I know you said they have the quarterback, but him eventually the NFL. What do you think is ceiling could be? Man, that's so tough to tell. You know, I don't it's so hard to evaluate given, you know, I obviously see the potential and the yard.
I mean, you can't look away from the numbers. So, but it's sort of evaluate because the sack last year, certainly product, the offensive line, how much of that was the product of him? So I think this year is going to be a much better test. You're having the consistency year two for him at Colorado, right? Even coming over from Jackson State with the same coaching staff.
It's a different animal, right? So, you know, I think just getting acclimated to this level in a way that I think we'll just be able to see a lot more with him again, how much of the sack last year, a product to him and how much of them are the opposite? Why? I'm sure a lot of it was the office wine, but that's an absurd number of sacks and taking that's a big part of his development to, you know, we just have these you look at some of these guys that we've interviewed over the course of the time. It's big 12 media days quarterback position and a guy like Rocco back like I expectations from the start for a guy where it's like his first three stars is a red shirt freshman quarterback last year.
He looks bad. It's like that's how you evaluate them and it's so unfair because so quick, you know, because we expect guys to develop so quickly and you know, he obviously live out the Jackson State but you play in the PAC 12 a year where the PAC 12 is good as it was that's you know, that's a humble. So I think this year will be a much better indicator of that upside in terms of NFL potential.
There's, you know, people are begging him to be the number one real effect. And if he has a year this year like he had last year in some ways, he will be our attempt in here with us as he joins us from big 12 media days. I've seen what Mike Gundy has said about Ali Gordon, where I know he was arrested on June 30 for a DUI and he's making him show up to big 12 media days to take accountability. I heard some of what Gundy said. It seemed like even though he said he wasn't justifying it. It comes off as he was justifying why he's not going to suspend him which he has every right not to suspend him.
But how do you think Mike Gundy has has approached all this And he does not give a rep. And I mean, he never did. But at this point, I mean, he is all out of them. Like there's there's not he just does not care, like, you know, external pressure to, you know, and I'm sure there'll be more external pressure to suspend him. He doesn't care. He's gonna do it his way unabashed.
It's just what like, that's what he's gonna do. And he's won at a very high level for 20 years. You've got two coaches this conference.
We spoke to both of them back to back. Kyle Whittingham and Mike Gundy, who, I mean, you talk about an insane amount of credibility. There's only one coach in America now that's that, you know, has one more at a longer level. And it's the same as Kirk parents.
They've all three of those guys won for 20 years. You know, so, yeah, and look, a tradition like any other is Mike Gundy making headlines for things that he says. I mean, every year, there's something new that he says he just there's a method to his madness.
You know what I mean? Like he knows what he's doing. He's dumb like a fox. He's probably one of the smarter coaches in college football. And he makes it seem like he has no idea what he's doing. And it's just he just made an unbelievable career out of that. He evolved like nobody else. And so yeah, every he's very calculating the things that he says and how he says them. And I think, you know, Ollie Gordon showing up says a lot.
A lot about the program, not shying away from it. Ollie answered, you know, we asked him about it. And, you know, he said, Yeah, I didn't want to have my teammates and coach have to answer for me.
I want to take responsibility. And, you know, look, he knows he's lucky that way more unfortunate situations, you know, play out with with high profile football players and with regular citizens, right? So very lucky that it wasn't just me. And with regular citizens, right?
So very lucky that it wasn't worse. But yeah, I mean, Gundy just does not give a bleep. At all. Yeah.
All right, I'm good here with us. Do you feel like this is Kyle winning him last year? I know that they have made the coach and waiting. But how much longer do you think what's going to coach for? I don't, but I think he's the type of coach that will surprise people when he does decide. But yeah, I mean, it's hard not to talk about that because because he's got now a coach and waiting. So that's the thing.
So now you have to wonder about what the timeline looks like. And, you know, I mean, we asked them. We've been having each coach asked the next coach a question approved, you know, we're having them record a question and the coach that he got asked the question he got asked from Scott Satterfield was was, you know, was, what do you do when you when you don't want to coach anymore?
What do you do after you hang it up? And I mean, he started listing out hobbies and things that he does. And it's like, crazy, like not coaches are like dorks, and they're like, all I do is ball. He's talking about fishing and playing tennis and playing golf, and he rides motorcycles, and he's like, dude has a lot of interests for a guy that's as good of a, you know, committed to being as good of a coach as he is, and the results speak for itself. So, you know, I think he's the type of guy that and we asked him, when will you know, and he said, you know, when I don't want to do this anymore, and he's still the reason I immediately answered the question with No, I don't think this is last year because he just as energized as he's always been, and you can feel that his answers and he still loves the job.
And I mean, I can't imagine. I mean, this year of all years with everything that's coming back in a new conference. You know, I think there's a lot still to coach for him. I know they were picked to finish first in the conference on the Big 12 media poll, Cam Rising, they finally get him back and we know what he means. Do you think they're pound for pound the best team in the Big 12? They are the best team in the Big 12, but they're not going to win the Big 12.
Okay, who will? I, who's going to be your guest as good as my pick West Virginia, you know, I picked up on the state last year as a stupid pick West Virginia is probably not right. I mean, here's the thing, unless it changes this year, the favorite has won this league in a while. So that's why I'm saying Utah is not going to win the league. Utah is the best team and certainly best position to win this league, but their history tells us that they're not going to win this league.
So the favorite hasn't won it on a pretty consecutive streak there. We haven't seen a lot of teams play over the course of the, you know, relaunch of the Big 12 championship for that Big 12 championship, you know, schedule now in a big way plays a factor. Who do you play? When do you play them? There's a lot of things at play here that we're not going to know until the season, but injuries rock play into that. So when are you playing these teams?
Are they fully healthy when you're playing them? That plays into who plays in that final game. So, you know, yeah, there's a reason that they're being picked to win the conference. You can make the same case for Kansas State and make a similar case for Oklahoma State too.
But with Cam rising back with the weapons they have, Brad Keefe, the guy's been very productive where he's been healthy a lot last couple of years. But in addition to Dorian's thing, I mean, look, there's no doubt they're the best team, but the best team hasn't won this conference in a long time. Who do you think is the best team between Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and Kansas? Kansas State, which hurts me to say as a Kansas alum. I mean, here's the thing about my Jayhawks.
I'd love for them to win a conference title and certainly with what they have back, there's no reason I think that they shouldn't be competing for one. But I'm the type of, I have to go off of what we've seen versus what could be, right? And the quarterback just can't stay healthy. So we haven't seen him be healthy for the entire season. So we can't expect him to be until he proves that he can be. And that's, it's a knock or whatever.
It is what it is. So now they're not as well positioned behind him. I think they're still okay behind him, but not like Jason Bean, what he was able to do last year. I hope Daniel stays healthy.
If he does, you know, he's a guy that is a difference maker at the position. And with what they've got, everybody back. And not only that, but we're pretty at a much higher level. There's a lot they have invested in at NIL, not just in basketball, but in football.
But I just, it's, for me, it's, there's, again, the things that could happen versus the things that we've seen. There's just way too much consistency from Chris Kleiman. And, and when you, when you basically say, Hey, we're Howard, we love what you've done, but you can move on. And then he goes to Ohio State. That's recruiting. Nobody's recruiting at Ohio State's level right now.
Nobody. And yet they got Kansas State's cast off quarterback. And I hate to say it like that, but that's the reality of the situation. They wanted Avery Johnson to start. Kansas State, the guy they wanted to start is starting and the guy that left went to Ohio State. That's how insane that situation is. Yeah.
Last I'll ask Gary Temkin. So you mentioned West Virginia and you're optimistic about them. I'm with you. I love what Neil Brown did a year ago.
I hope it continues. I'm also fascinated talking about a guy that had a lot of success last year, but now he's no longer there, right? It's Fish leaving Arizona. Like I just don't know what Arizona is going to be with the new coach coming in, even though they have a lot of talent coming back.
Right. And here's the other thing, you know, the transition has to mean something and maybe it'll be more for the, you know, Big 12 members that have been here. And this league is a brand new league. Last year, four new teams came in, then two leaving. I mean, 16 teams, eight are new in the last year. So it's a brand new league. So how is that, you know, how will the eight teams that have been part of the Big 12, how will they acclimate? With Arizona, you know, this is more of a running type conference now. It's kind of different than what it's been. Seventeen, 7,000 yard rushers in this conference last year.
That's not going to change. All those rushers are back this year. They didn't go to the NFL.
So there might be more. Arizona is built to throw the football and they've got an elite quarterback and the best, maybe the best wide receiver in college football. So there's a lot to like about them. But yeah, I do wonder about the transition. Can they run the ball as effectively as a lot of other teams? I think a big reason why teams are so effective running the ball is because a lot of teams in the Big 12 play 3-3-5 defense. They're going to rush three and then drop eight in the coverage.
So it invites more running opportunities. I think that's why the Big 12 has shifted. So can Arizona run if teams sit back and say, we're going to drop eight in the coverage and put in brackets, Ted McMillan, can you still throw on us?
And will you, can you run the football? That's going to be a huge piece for Arizona moving into the conference. And then there's, there's a group of teams that you've got at the top preseason, Utah, Oklahoma State, Kansas State. Then you've got Kansas and West Virginia and Iowa State and, and Arizona.
There's that second group and you can make the case that any of those teams could win the conference. He is Ari Temkin. Does a great job.
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Anytime Zach. There he is. Ari Temkin joining us on the Zach Elb show on the Infinity Sports Network. We will take a time out. We'll come on back with some future potential destinations for Dak Prescott.
If he does, in fact, leave the Dallas Cowboys after this season. Alrighty, this is Zach Elb show on the Infinity Sports Network. It's time to answer.
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You could think O'Reilly Auto Parts while your car care needs get guaranteed low prices and excellent customer service from the professional parts people at O'Reilly Auto Parts. O'Reilly Auto Parts actually have five destinations for Dak. If Dak were to leave the Cowboys, which I think is on the table. I'm not gonna say it's likely, but I think it's on the table. So here's the five that I'll give. Samter, listen to the five.
Tell me what you think the juiciest one would be or the one that you would want to see the most. Will Levis does not have a good season this year. Tennessee has already invested in Calvin Ridley. You know, we'll see if DeAndre Hopkins will be back, but they could be in the mix for a quarterback.
Would not shock me, and I hope all Levis succeeds, but Tennessee is in at number five. In at number four, we just saw Saquon Barkley leave the Giants to go to the Eagles. It's pretty obvious Daniel Jones is not the guy for the New York Giants.
A year from now, could Dak Prescott say, I'm sick and tired of Jerry Jones, and I'm going to leave the Cowboys, but I still want to go up against the Cowboys, and I will go to the New York Football Giants. The Giants are in at number four. In at number three, I know Stu is out sick this week, but his team does not have a quarterback.
You have Aiden O'Connell, you have Gardner Minshew. Right now, none of those guys are going to be the long-term quarterback of the Raiders. So, I think that could be in play for the Las Vegas Raiders, and you also have Devante Adams still there. Hey, by the way, talking about Devante Adams, let's play this audio. This is courtesy of FS1.
Devante Adams doing the car wash tour yesterday, going on every station when talking about this receiver documentary that's released now on Netflix. And this is Devante Adams on the Raiders quarterback situation, once again, courtesy of our friends at FS1. I want whoever's going to look the best when it's time to win his live bullets.
So, at the end of the day, I don't have a preference other than the fact that I want somebody that's confident and ready to go when it's time to do it. So, whoever that is, that's who I want throwing the ball. I think right now, if I had to say, I think Aiden has the job because, you know, obviously he was here before and that's the way that it was. He was running with the ones more and until Gardner comes in and, you know, takes the job away from him, I think it's Aiden's job right now.
He doing what he got to do to hold on to it. We still got to keep working and, you know, do what we got to do to grow and get better. We could definitely get better than where we are, you know, he and I, our connection, him individually, even me.
At this point in the year, this is not where you are going to show your best. So, you know, throughout camp when we start really going, the pass is on and, you know, we're doing the real deal. I think that's when we'll be able to decide who the guy will be and, you know, I'll continue to keep working and getting that camaraderie with that person. That's a very similar answer to what Tim Brown told us, the Pro Football Hall of Famer, that if he was like a betting man, he said he believes it's going to be Aiden O'Connell week one and then it's going to be Gardner Minshew. Even though I think Gardner Minshew is the better player and I'd rather see Gardner Minshew, you know Minshew isn't the franchise quarterback. I don't think Aiden O'Connell is a franchise quarterback, to be clear, but since he was okay last year, they may say, okay, let's see him for a few more games this year and then if he falls flat on his face through the first four weeks of the season, then we'll go to Gardner Minshew who's played that backup quarterback role before and has to take over for the starter. But Dak potentially to the Raiders, that'd be my third destination.
Now here's two and one. Let's say the Russell Wilson experiment doesn't work with the Steelers this year. Let's also say Justin Fields, it's displayed that Justin Fields, it wasn't necessarily more Chicago messing it up, but it's more so of his lack of ability or his inability to be a great quarterback. A year from now, Steelers still got to have a good team, still got to have a championship caliber defense. You got George Pickens at wide receiver. Right now you have Najee Harris, I don't know if he'll be there a year from now. You have Jaylen Warren. It would not shock me if Dak finds his way to go play for Mike Tomlin with the Steelers. But then number one, I think this is the best destination for Dak. It's a good team. It's a team that's now in a new era, but they have a lot of talented pieces, especially on the offensive side of the ball. That's Seattle Seahawks. You got DK Metcalf, you got Tyler Lockett, and you got Jackson Smith and Jigba, who I think is phenomenal and is going to be really damn good. I would say the Seahawks could actually be the number one destination for Dak Prescott, if in fact he says I'm going to leave the drama Dallas Choking Cowboys.
And I don't believe Geno Smith is the guy. So those are the five destinations. Titans at five, Giants at four, Raiders three, Steelers two, and the Seahawks one. Samter, what's the one that jumps out to you the most? What's the one that you're like, okay, that's the one that I actually want to see? I think the Seahawks.
Any particular reason? Well, you'd like me to keep it short. No, I think, listen, I think the Seahawks situation is very interesting.
Naturally. I think the juiciest would be the Giants, just because it's in division. Now, Chris Hess, you're a Giants fan, right?
No? Who do you root for? Who's your NFL team? I don't have one. You don't have an NFL team? Nope. I just set my fantasy line up and pray. What kind of animal are you?
I'm putting my money back on Hickey. Wait, but hold on. I'm sorry, Samter.
You're fugazi, you know? Yeah, I got three NFL teams. He's got none.
He can take one of mine. You don't root for an NFL team? That's weird. That's always been your case?
Pretty much, yeah. I just grew up in a big college football house, and I mean, I watched the NFL, but I never really got into it. That's how you know that when we talk about the P1 cult members of Penn State, Chris Hess is in the P1 cult. Because he is so dedicated to Penn State, he don't got time for the NFL. It's Penn State, Penn State, Penn State, Penn State. So that's crazy to me. And you grew up where?
Long Island. And you never were like, oh, Jets, Giants, or even just another team? I mean, I like specific NFL players.
I loved watching Eli Manning, but that didn't make me a Giants fan. Hmm. I don't even know how to relate to this. I don't even know where we go from this. We have five minutes left in the show.
I should just end it now. I thought Chris Hess, because I know you're a passionate Ranger fan. I know you love the Yankees. Um, do you have an NBA team? I don't know, you don't come off to me as an NBA guy. I follow the Knicks a little bit, always have a little bit, but never was like a die hard. And you love Penn State so much, but you never said, okay, I'm gonna, as big of a Penn State football fan you are, that you're gonna have an NFL team.
That's crazy to me. It just, it never clicked for me. I love watching the NFL, I love when it's on, I just didn't have a team, that's all. I mean, there's no, there's no word. There's a lot of people, board ops and producers, that have said a lot of bizarre things.
That may be the most bizarre one yet. You don't have an NFL team. You could not have an NBA team, I'm okay with that. You don't have a hockey team, okay. You could not have a hockey team.
Honestly, in this day and age, if you don't even have an MLB team, you know, maybe you didn't have catch as much with your dad as a kid. To not have an NFL team. Yeah. At a national radio network.
At a national radio network. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Hess. It's un-American. Un-American.
It is un-American. But that actually makes me now think that if we do, and I did, during the break, talk to Hickey. And Hickey was like, that'd be a good matchup, doing a Penn State trivia off between Hickey and Hess. And he goes, Chris will probably have me beat just by a little bit, and then Marco is ranting in the newsroom.
El Capitan, Marco Belletti. He's like, I can't even get the Yankee game on here some nights, because those two, he said a word I probably can't say on the radio. Those two jerks, let's just say, are like watching Penn State wrestling on the Big Ten Network. So, but that shows why I think Hess would win the Penn State trivia off, because Hickey cares about so many other sports. Hess doesn't even have an NFL team.
Well, hold on a second. Are you like diehard Penn State beyond football? I support all of the teams, but yeah, he's a cult member. Football is my number one. Can you talk to me intelligently about Penn State wrestling?
Oh, absolutely. Or like Penn State lacrosse? Lacrosse, no. Soccer? Like other non-traditional sports? Men's basketball? I can do basketball. Trust me, I've had to sit through some of those conversations with Hess and Hickey.
That sounds like my worst nightmare come to life. Just two Penn State morons talking about knitting you lying nonsense. I prefer the word idiot. Dopes. But seriously, it's like I'm more surprised that Hess doesn't have a football team than I am that Mike Gundy sounds like a jackass at Big 12 Media Days, defending a player that got arrested for a DUI.
Man, that's shocking. Anywho, it is the Zach Gelb Show on the Infinity Sports Network. Let me play one more here from Devante Adams because I thought this was interesting. So we played you Devante Adams on the Raiders QB situation. Here is Devante Adams on with up and Adams with K Adams on the possibility of Josh Jacobs used to be his teammate with the Raiders. Now Josh Jacobs is with the Packers about Devante Adams may be recruiting, getting recruited by Josh Jacobs to return to the Packers inevitably. He told the media about a text that he sent asking if you were thinking about returning to the Packers, saying yesterday it was a joke.
What would you like to say? Yeah, that was true. He did send that over. I mean, Josh is one of my best friends, man. First of all, he's hilarious. People don't know how funny he is.
It was definitely a joke, but it was one of those jokes where he was serious because he definitely would like that. But I told him, you go ahead and hold it down and, you know, I'm going to hold it down over here. I don't think I'll be coming back over there, you know, never know what's going to happen. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what I say. If they shit me off, then I mean, there's not much I could do about it.
But, you know, I'm a Raider, so nobody got to worry about it. So one thing I'm lost there. Why did Kay Adams start screaming like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? Like, I understand what he was saying was somewhat big, but let him continue the sentence. Well, I mean, he basically did say like, you know, you never know what's going to happen. It felt kind of newsworthy-ish. She's kind of just making sure that she's understanding what he's actually implying.
You got to keep on letting the person speak when you whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa him, you know, pretty much ends the conversation. So Devante Adams says this year left in his contract, then two more years after that, 2025 and 2026. I do think this will be Devante Adams last season with the Raiders. I know that Devante Adams, right, he wanted to go to the Raiders and that was with Derek Carr and the whole family stuff that they've talked about. Their quarterback situation is going to be dreadful this year.
And I think the Antonio Pierce thing, it granted another year of Devante Adams with the with the silver and black. But I think after this year, as he starts to get closer and closer to his mid 30s, that's when he's like, OK, I got to go get myself a quarterback. And even though I talked about Dak maybe joining the Raiders, I don't think that's likely. So if you don't have a quarterback there, man, it makes things difficult.
Alrighty. Big thanks to Bart Winkler. Big thanks to Ryan Harris. Big thanks to Ari Temkin.
Chris Hess, even though he doesn't have an NFL team, which is crazy. Mike Sampthor, each and every one of you will be back tomorrow at 3 p.m. Eastern noon Pacific. We out. Bye bye.
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