Final Mock Draft (Hour 3)

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I'm doing great. Thank you for having me. So this time of the year, what kind of memories does it bring back for you? And kind of take me behind the scenes what this is like for a coach on draft night.

Wow, they are such great memories. Because the draft, the great thing about the draft, it really is the beginning of your year. Obviously, you've had a lot of work leading up to it, but when you add talent to the organization, then the schedule will come out, next two weeks or so, and now you're set.

Now you know exactly everything's in place and you go forward with it. And anytime you're adding talent, young talent to your team, it's exciting. Now it's taken on a whole new level when you're talking about the draft and the interest in draft.

I mean, it's amazing. There'll be close to 60 million people watch the draft over the three networks over the next three days. There could be upwards of 15 million people watching tonight in the first round.

Now keep in mind that that 15 million will outdraw NBA and NHL playoff games, Major League, I mean, the interest in it. And so the fans, whether it's because of fantasy or whatever, you're adding that talent to it. Everybody knows about the players.

Everybody knows about everything. It's an exciting time. So I'm always a sucker for after the first round is over or after the entire draft is over the teams. Now they pump out their social media content and you see the owner, you see the coach, you see the GM had these emotional phone calls. Is there one phone call or two all these years later that still stick out to you with a player that you guys drafted? Well, you know, that began because, and I think it went back to the early days in Cleveland where they drafted a guy that had died. He had actually died and they didn't realize this is the old days. So people started, you know, before I draft, I'm going to talk to a guy. I want to know he's okay.

Wasn't in a car accident or whatever. But that too is an emotional time because you, particularly whether it's the first round pick, which everybody sees and watches, they're in the green room or whatever, or later guys that have waited now, second round, third round, am I going to get the call? So when you make those calls to the sixth round guy or the late second round guy, the third round guy, the fourth round guy, that's when it really gets exciting because now they've waited. They weren't sure how high they were going to go. And they get that call and all of a sudden you've changed their world, their dream, their life's dream to play in the National Football League.

And that becomes real to them. Now, whether they make the team or not, that's a whole other thing. But that's an exciting call. Talking to Brian Billick right now. All right, let's get to the quarterbacks.

I have to do these commentaries that aired at all of our stations around the country. And the commentary I did today was, it feels like 90, 95% of the time with the draft, all we talk about are quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks. When you look at Caleb Williams, he's going to be the number one overall pick. He has the task of changing the Bears franchise. The Bears finally getting right their franchise quarterback. What do you see with Caleb Williams? Just like Justin Fields, right?

I mean, he was going to be that guy. The view I have on the quarterbacks, there's absolutely no reason. This is a talented field. And there's absolutely no reason these guys shouldn't be good pros. The fact of the matter is half of them are going to fail.

That's just the history of it. And it's a 50-50 proposition. Now it's above my pay grade to tell you which of these guys are going to be successful and which one aren't. They all have the basic abilities to be good.

The film supports it. A lot of it has to do with where they go, how they developed. But at the end of the day, do they have that ability that translates into the NFL?

And you don't know until you get them. I had one scout tell me the most difficult thing is of the 350 some odd throws a player might make in a given year, only about 15 to 20% are NFL throws. Films, throws that you can look at and say, yes, these are throws he's going to make or have to make in the NFL. So by that number, you look at it. And so you're deciding on whether to put your franchise, your future on the line by taking a guy in the first round on about 50 throws.

Is that enough to extrapolate? And sometimes, yeah, sometimes no. There's absolutely no reason these guys across the board shouldn't be good pros, but half of them are going to fail. So with what you just said about the film, which I think it's fascinating and right, you got to coach a team during the season. You have other people doing the scouting and trying to figure out who's the best and all that. I know that it always has come down to the coach loves the player or not, but you do have some input in that kind of process.

When you sit down, when you, when you used to talk to some of these quarterbacks, what do you look for when you just had these conversations and these meetings and meetings and meetings that just never end with these players? That is the tough part too, because the physical part you can see that's easy to quantify. Okay. Yeah. He's got this kind of arm strength. He can run around, he can do this as this kind of vision, but it's that, that temperament. And they're all very, you know, these typical quarterbacks are going to be strong personalities. You can see the good natural leadership in them, but you've got to kind of dig past that to see, is this guy that I'm really want to be a partner with?

And there's a lot of different ways that you can kind of scratch through it. They're all very prepared now to view their agents. And particularly today, they Royal school, they sit down, they're polished.

They know how to answer certain questions that you're going to put to them. You try to kind of cut through that to see what's this, how competitive is this guy? How's he going to handle the pressure? How's he going to make the transition into the NFL? Is he a small school guy from a small environment, small town that now is going to get thrown into New York or Chicago or San Francisco or Dallas? How's he going to handle that?

That's a lot. And particularly in that with a limited amount of time, particularly as the coach, I may only have, you know, a small window to visit with the guy. That's where you really got to count on your coaches, or I should say your scouts to have done their homework, to done the background on the guy, talk to family members, friends, other teammates, the equipment guy, just to find out what kind of guy is this? What's he really like?

What is his character? Because that's going to affect his ability to succeed as much as anything physically. Nowadays, as we're joined in studio on the Zach Gelb show by Brian Billick, we, you know, the running and the mobility part of the quarterback position is so important. Like before the season, everyone said Caleb Williams, Drake May going to be one too. Now Drake May has athleticism, he has mobility, but then Jayden Daniels goes out there and he rushes for 1100 yards and tosses 40 touchdowns and boom, it's expected Daniels is going to go two tonight and May is going to go three. How much of an importance now do you put on it for guys running the football out of the quarterback position?

Well, that's two different questions. Running the ball versus athleticism. Today's game, you have to have a certain athleticism.

The ability to work within the pocket. The ability to extend plays. Not necessarily maybe running the ball, but getting outside the pocket, throwing off a platform, being able to perform outside of that pristine pocket, that ability to just sit. Like Mahomes, he runs pretty much sideline to sideline. He's not usually running down the field. And he's a perfect example because he's a guy that can also hurt you running the ball down the field. But we do have a lot of quarterbacks that that element, that ability to run the ball, it's important because it's an adjunct to, the question is, but can he beat you from the pocket? Now, maybe he's a good enough runner.

Lamar Jackson's a perfect example, but you got to buy into that. You got to say, okay, we're comfortable with him running the ball 150, 160, 170 times. That's a non-traditional view because can he last? Can he stay healthy enough? So the running quarterback, that's a nice adjunct, but the athleticism within the pocket is more important.

And these guys have that. Joe Burrow is an excellent athletic quarterback. Now, he's not going to run 70, 80 times and put a bunch of yards on it, but he can move around the pocket. Aaron Rodgers is one of the most athletic and gifted, moving within the pocket and extending the play because that's what you're really doing. You're breaking down a defense and extending the play by buying time by moving around the pocket. So that athleticism is an absolute premium. The old, you know, stable, straight-legged, stiff quarterback, those days are gone, clearly.

There has to be a certain amount of athleticism, but does that make Jayden Daniels a better quarterback, a more productive quarterback because he adds those running yards than the guys that do it that are athletic but do it more within the pocket? That's a good question. Then the other question is, okay, but can he stay healthy? That's the next question. That's the only concern I have with Daniels.

Exactly right, and legitimately so. He's not a big guy. You look at him, he's frail. But he knows, like Lamar Jackson, he knows how to avoid the hit.

It's not a problem until it's a problem. Because Lamar doesn't take, as much as he runs the ball, he doesn't take that many hits. But, missed the last six games. Yeah, he's had injuries. But that's not fair to put an indictment on because any quarterback can get hurt. Joe Burrow was hurt for a lot of part of the season. But you are tempting Providence if you're going to buy into that kind of guy, and how long can he do that and stay healthy?

That's really the big question. The key thing where a lot of teams will make a mistake is they'll buy into that athleticism, but then try to limit him. But we don't want him carrying the ball 10, 12 times a game. That's why you have to give Baltimore great credit for when they took Lamar Jackson and they bought in. They said, no, we're committed.

If we're going to let him be him, and he's going to carry the ball 160, 170 times, you've got to buy into the second part of the equation. The two storylines that I'm most fascinated to see tonight, who Minnesota ends up getting at quarterback? No Kirk Cousins. They're sitting there at 11. They also made a trade before the draft, so they have 23 as well.

So you have ammunition to move up. I kind of feel like the Patriots are going to keep the pick at three and take a quarterback. So that four and five range before the Giants pick at six, because I think if one of the four top quarterbacks are there, you will see the Giants take a quarterback.

I'm fascinated to see what Minnesota does tonight. Yeah, and you do that, you have to rely on your evaluation, your analysis. What that tells me is they're comfortable with four or five of these guys. You either move all the way up and spend all the resources for that, because you see that, and some teams will do that, you see there's a real difference between the second and third guy. But when you move into the position that Minnesota has, that tells me, yeah, you may see them move up to get a particular guy, but that tells me they're very comfortable with four or five of these guys, all of them, and that they're going to be as comfortable with a Michael Penix as they would be with a J.J. McCarthy, because they think one of these guys is going to find his way back to that position. Yeah, Brian Billick here with us.

Other players, like Marvin Harrison Jr., I think he's can't miss. You have the family lineage there. Is that something? Like, we talked about that, we're like, oh, his dad was a great player. Now, he's a great player in college. How important is the family lineage at all?

To a degree, good bloodlines are always good. And the fact that he's been around it. He's been around the game his whole life. That's a comfort zone for me, that growing up around his dad, obviously went to a high-profile program at Ohio State. So he's comfortable in that role. He's seen it.

He's lived it. And that's very important, because a lot of times you can get young, gifted athletes that come in, and that role can overwhelm them. And they step onto the big stage, and all of a sudden it is a lock in the NFL or in a big city.

So, yeah, that's certainly a comfort zone that he has that kind of background. And what's interesting, again, in this draft is because of the quarterback situation, some awfully good players, whether it be a Harrison, whether it's the tackle alt, are going to get pushed back to some teams that, you know, realistically could not anticipate they were going to be available where they're picking. So that means some pretty good athletes are going to get pushed back into a good position. Oh, it's funny you said that, because I was telling you earlier how I did this commentary how it's all quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. The three players I actually feel most confident on aren't even quarterbacks.

It's Marvin Harrison Jr., it's Joe Ault, the offensive lineman at Notre Dame, and then it's Roma Dunze, the wide receiver out of Washington. So it's a little bit interesting how much coverage we spend on the quarterbacks, then compared to maybe how you feel about who's going to be the best players in the next level. When it comes to leaks, and, you know, I now know everyone has a platform now, like are teams, like you hear this idea that teams leak out information maybe to have a player fall that they want to get. Is that stuff accurate? Do we just kind of make too much of that?

Oh, absolutely. Right now, this is a giant game of liar's poker. You can believe nothing of what you hear from anybody in the NFL right now, because they're pushing and prodding and there's a lot of different things that, you know, misinformation. Everybody's on the phone right now talking to one another, and with all the relationships you have, trying to be as discreet as you can to try to glean any idea about the direction they might go, at the same time not giving out any information that you have. So right now, there's a lot, and then you throw in the agents that then also are going to, you know, leak out a lot of information or perspectives. And now, because of social media, and there's just so many, I mean, how many people have mock drafts? And 99.9% of them are people that don't know a quarterback from a quarter pounder, okay? But they base it on, I read this, I hear that. None of them have done the film work.

None of them have based it. And that's fine, too, that you take a accumulation of, well, I've heard this, I've read this. Guy runs a quick 40, boom, first round pick. Well, like I say, you hear it all the time in the last couple months, well, this guy has zoomed up the draft board. No, he hasn't. He's always been there. You're just now finding out about it. The draft gurus and the guys that put these mock drafts together are just now becoming aware of guys that the clubs have known all along how good they were, where they were going to rank.

That board has been set for a long time. Now, there are some people out there that do an outstanding job. DJ, Daniel Jeremiah, the NFL network, Daniel Workforce in Baltimore, he is outstanding. Mike Mayock used to be outstanding because they do the work. Charles Davis is one of the smartest guys I've ever been around. He sees the college game.

He's been around. So there are a lot of guys out there that do put in the work and have a great perspective. The majority of people, and that's fine, too, it's fair enough, it's fantasy football. They're just trading on, well, I read this, I read that, I saw this, I saw that written, and put out, well, this is how I see it. Well, that's fair. That's great. It's exciting.

It's not necessarily the most legitimate perspective, but it's fun to follow. Where are you at with J.J. McCarthy? Because the confusing part with that is last year, in the last few years, they've had such great offensive line, they had such great running backs, they didn't need to throw the ball 30, 35 times a game. Any time you take a quarterback from a program that is that dominant, it's a little bit of a concern because he is surrounded by great talent.

Now, you don't nix him for that necessarily. And J.J. McCarthy did what they told him to do, and it won a national champion. Has his whole career. In terms of, what is he, 27-1 or something like that, two high school championships, and so that's a pretty good pedigree. I'm going to scare you, for those that like J.J. McCarthy, I'm going to scare you to hear, again, it's the 50-50. I think I see some Joe Bauer in him. I also see a Zach Jones.

It could be either one. He's that system quarterback with some great people around him. Certainly Bauer's came out of tremendous talent at LSU.

I don't know. He has all the physical tools, seems to have the right demeanor. He's got the pedigree. There's no reason, absolutely no reason, why he shouldn't come in and be a great pro. It said the same thing about Zach Jones.

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T. Higgins on the franchise tag, he's demanded a trade. As a coach, I know there's your GMs, you got agents, everyone else involved. How do you kind of weather the storm when a player's in a contract dispute and starts to want out?

Because you know you want to keep them to try to go win that championship. But that's the name of the game, the NFL. Denny Green, God rest his soul, my mentor always said, there's a time for pay and there's a time for play.

Well now's the time for pay, and that's what you're focused on. If you've got a top caliber quarterback, you've got a window. And there's going to be transition in players. The great ones will absorb and raise the level of the other players around them. You can't pay everybody.

The pie is only so big. And so at the end of the day, that's the price you're going to pay, particularly if you have a good quarterback that extends that window, which means you've got a pretty good window right now to work through. You're going to go through a number of iterations on your team, and that's just the way it is. You've got to rely on your system that got you that good player. Well we can get another good player, because at the end of the day, you can't pay everybody.

So you wouldn't be heartbroken if let's say Higgins or IU get traded tonight. You hate to see talent walk out the building. You hate to see good players, good guys, walk out the building. But that's the nature of the league.

The business, yeah. Yeah, and like Dan Rooney used to say, Mr. Rooney years ago said, I don't mind overpaying for a good player. I just don't want to overpay for a bad player. And the hardest thing, and it's the hardest thing because you've worked and you've been through the batteries of fire with these players, and you can't pay for past performance. It's the toughest part. You can only pay for performance going forward, and that's where, because you want to. You want them to be a part of the team, but you got to keep that in mind.

You got to pay for what is on the horizon, not what happened before. You think Belichick is coach's last game? That's hard to imagine.

That's all this guy's ever done. There are going to be some team that recognizes that that experience suits them. It's not for everybody because regardless what they say, at the end of the day, it's going to be Bill Belichick's show. So it's going to be a unique owner and a general manager that brings that on knowing that at the end of the day, we answer to him. And whether they're willing to do that or not, he certainly has the pedigree. He's a lifer.

It's all he's ever done. Everyone says, a lot of people say in the Cowboys, but you know Jerry Jones runs the show there. That will be an interesting marriage. Now, Jerry Jones will make that deal if he thinks he can win and that they'll work it out. But those two personalities, that would be worth the price of admission.

That will be, we'll have to wait and see the rest of the story on that one. He's Coach Bill. And Coach, thanks so much. Once again, check it out.

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They were like, Oh, coach, you want to come on for 20 minutes? Sure. So appreciate him jumping on board with us. I'm going to release right now my latest top 10 mock draft in at number one. This is the bold take. I can't believe I am making this selection with the first pick of the 2024 NFL draft. The Chicago Bears select quarterback Caleb Williams, USC in at number two, the Washington commanders select a guy that I really, really wanted on my football team. That is Jayden Daniels.

Now, here's the question. When you fall in love and you want a player on your team and then another team gets that player, right? Patriots pick it at three commanders at two. Do I not root against Jayden Daniels? Because I'm going to be really down in the dumps. If let's say the Patriots get Drake May and he turns out to be a bust. And then the guy that I really wanted is Jayden Daniels. Like if it turns out to be Patriots get May commanders get Daniels and I've been not all in clearly on Drake May.

Uh, if I end up being wrong and Drake May turns out to be generational like a stud, I'm happy to have egg in my face in that one. But should I be rooting for Jayden Daniels to fail with the commanders? Absolutely. You should be rooting for every player that's not on the Patriots to fail in the NFL.

Really? I mean, I guess every player not on the chiefs. Can we stop at this chiefs act that you have? We all know you're not a chief fan. You're a jet fan. All right, like let's stop with you pretending that you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan. But yeah, I think you should just because you fall in love with a guy because you, you fall in love with Jayden Daniels because you want your team to pick him. You're not falling in love with Jayden Daniels because you just love Jayden Daniels. But you know why I'm not going to root against Jayden Daniels? I want the now the commander fan. But you know the history of that fan base.

I want them to make a triumphant return. I went to a game in Landover, Maryland. It was the last day I was at what we used to call our network CBS Sports Radio before I went to serious or three months and they begged me to come back here.

Um, the last I remember I resigned at the 2 to 6 a.m. Eastern Time shift. I everyone knew what I announced it though on the air and I took a train down that morning and I went to Landover, Maryland with my buddy the I think they were the Redskins at the time. I don't think they were the football team yet and we ended up going to that Patriots Redskins game. The thing was though that stadium it's a dump of a stadium. There were no fans of the home team there. And it's one thing like that's the Patriots, right?

Everyone was showing up. There were like a weird amount of Cowboys fans there. So the first two picks of the draft you have the Bears who have never like had a quarterback and you have the commanders who their fan base there's like there was apathy for so many years with the end of Daniel Snyder. So I hope those two quarterbacks are successful because I want to see the fan bases enjoy football once again like the way that I've enjoyed football.

So that's all be rooting for Jayden Daniels because I'm a good person Samter. I mean why you feel any connection to another team's fan base like I guess maybe I want the league. It's good for the sport.

It's good for what we do. You're a Patriots fan. Are you an NFL fan?

You're gonna get Rob Lowe wearing an NFL hat and a football game. You're not a fan of like the league. You're a fan of a time in the league. Yes. But I love the NFL and the NFL is better when you have a fan base that used to be one of the best fan bases around actually involved because their owner hasn't driven them out of the sport.

They deserve to have a good player. It makes you happier when that happens. It makes you happy when a fan base has been down. Yes. That's weird. I have one of my good friends is a fan of that football team. I would like to see him have some some good moments in his life.

I mean if you're doing it for a specific person that you're a friend with sure you want to see your friend happy but I'm not like rooting for a guy that my team didn't get to draft because I liked him before the draft and now he's on a different team. No. Now he's the enemy. Yeah. But the committee said no impact. They have no impact on me. They're going to the commanders and Patriots are in the Super Bowl. And now that's different. Jaden Daniels.

But that's different. I'm not rooting for him against my team in the Super Bowl. I'm talking about just for him to be a successful player in week seven commanders Patriots to do me a favor.

You know where you are. You're doing me a favor and so just Tony reality is Mike for for a second. Bears one Caleb Williams commanders to Jaden Daniels three Patriots Drake may and let me make myself abundantly clear with Drake may you sit him for bare minimum 10 to 12 games this year. The only way he gets on the field before sometime in November is if they pull off a trade for Brandon I you could T Higgins which Elliott Wolff you want me to like you Elliott Wolff tell Jonathan Kraft to shut the bleep up tonight. You take Drake man three and then use that second round pick to go find a way to get Iuke or T Higgins. You wouldn't use you want to spend the money for Calvin Ridley.

So go spend the money for those guys and give up the draft capital in a number for the best player in the draft Marvin Harrison Junior. We have our first trade in at five. I do think the Giants are going to get jumped by the Minnesota Vikings. If the Patriots are trading the pick at three I only want them to trade it with the Giants because they fall down to six and they get the Giants next year first round pick. I think the Giants are gonna be bad this year for Minnesota.

You get an eleven you get in twenty three and probably next year's one. None of those picks to me are going to be in the top ten so I think the Vikings are desperate. I do believe the Vikings trade up. I think the Chargers fall back and Minnesota ends up snagging J.J. McCarthy in at number six I have a change.

I think Pearl Office won the over here for I believe that Roma dunes a is the better player. It seems like forever Malik neighbors has been mocked as either the first or second best receiver more likely the second best receiver in this draft class knowing Joe Shane the way that I do and this I did not talk to Joe Shane or anything like that. I just feel like the more that Perloff said and you hear where this stuff leaks out from that Roma dunes a then is to pick if McCarthy is off the board at six for the New York Giants.

So there's the change Tennessee. They're going with Joel. I think like if Joel does not on Tennessee come tomorrow that will be my biggest surprise of the first round. I know you've had some other players on the offensive line be projected but I'd be really surprised if Joel is it on Tennessee. And for people thinking that all maybe Harbaugh will snag him with the Chargers maybe on a trade back if he starts to fall. But Joel told us the other day he didn't have a top 30 visit with the Los Angeles Chargers Falcons. I think with Malik neighbors there.

That's the Malik neighbors landing spot. Bears end up taking Dallas Turner out of Alabama and then the Jets at 10. I think the Jets want one of these three wide receivers if they're all off the board. You know could they go offensive lineman. Could they trade back. Yeah as even though I'm not a huge fan of this guy projecting into the NFL. I do believe this pick has Aaron Rodgers and his fingertip will be all over it. They'll go Brock Bowers out of Georgia. So the last mock draft that I'm giving you bears Caleb Williams commanders Jaden Daniels Patriots Drake May Cardinals Marvin Harrison Junior Vikings straight up they get JJ McCarthy Giants go Roma dunes a Tennessee goes Joel Atlanta goes to Malik neighbors bear select Dallas Turner and the New York Samters the JTS Jets Jets Jets. They do rock and roll with Brock Bowers.

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All righty we will get to a news brief in just a second to wrap up the show it is the Zach Gelb show but there is a big report out there Diana Rossini senior NFL insider for the athletic just make sure this is her actual Twitter it is the forty niners have had conversations with teams including with one picking in the top ten about trading either of their prize wide receivers Brandon Iuke or my best friend Deebo Samuel in an effort to move up in the first round per sources so I understand the report is one of the teams that they called her in the top ten so it doesn't mean that the forty niners can't still trade up and it not be in the top ten like it could be outside of the top ten I wonder if this means and once again this could be a bunch of hot air too I wonder if this means because I've said it right Iuke is the better wide receiver Deebo is the better all around player if maybe the forty niners who know they have to pay Brandon Iuke a new contract soon believe it's better to pay Brandon Iuke and then they could move up and get another wide receiver pay Iuke and then you trade Deebo Samuel and that frees up some cap space I guess that is on the table now they could still trade Iuke and they could find the way to get into the top ten but let me just throw around this simple question who's the team in the top ten that they've talked to because if you're moving up into the top ten it doesn't necessarily mean that the forty niners are hellbent on getting a wide receiver maybe they think there's another position that they need so I'll give you the teams in the top ten and then Stu and Samtor you give me your best guess because I have my best educated guess on this Bears are at one commanders are at two Patriots are at three let's do this let's rule out one two and three I think it's safe to say we know Caleb Williams going one Jayden Daniels going two and are the Patriots gonna take a quarterback or three or someone's gonna move up at three to take a quarterback and I don't believe that the San Francisco forty niners are gonna trade here's the hot take of the day Deebo Samuel Brandon Iuke to go get Drake May when Brock Purdy you just did strike somewhat gold in the in the seventh round Mr. irrelevant so from four to ten it's the Cardinals it's the Chargers it's the Giants it's the Titans it's the Falcons the Bears and the Jets which team in the top ten did the forty niners have a conversation with about potentially that moving into the top ten and in return them trading either Brandon Iuke or Deebo Samuel Stu I believe it is the New York Jets so they could pair you know some type of playmaker with Aaron Rodgers a veteran playmaker like Deebo or Iuke so you'd have Garrett Wilson Breece Hall and Iuke or Deebo Samuel for see Samtor this happens by the way you're not allowed to go jump back on the Jets bandwagon okay I don't want to hear you start claiming the Jets again that was my first thought as well still Samtor when you went through that those listed teams was was it the Jets as well that you first jumped to go Chiefs no Chargers are the first thing that came to my mind Harbaugh with that quarterback wants to not have a rookie receiver as his top option he wants a veteran who he can trust he has a relationship with the forty niners so I feel like that's a good relationship well bulky's gone I mean he has a relationship with a lot of people in that organization the problem that he has with bulky and bulky's out of there so I don't think that's a problem now so yeah I think I think that the Chargers make the most sense for the forty niners to move up and the Chargers can get a star wide receiver to put with that star quarterback and do something with and maybe get other draft capital go along with it and just trying to figure this out I don't think the Cardinals should do this take Marvin Harrison junior the Chargers could be in play if a quarterback's not there maybe the Giants but I think they would just draft the wide receiver in a dunes a or neighbors who's ever available in that spot if not both I don't think it's Tennessee right they have D hop and they just signed Calvin Ridley I don't believe it's the Bears because remember they just traded for Keenan Allen and they have DJ more they could draft a wide receiver but then pay another wide receiver I don't see that if it's not the Jets if it's not the Chargers you know it could be it could be Atlanta Atlanta would be fun imagine putting Debo in that offense with Bijan Robinson Drake London and Kyle Pitts oh hello that would be super duper fun I think we narrowed it down here Chargers Falcons or the Jets if it's one of these teams in the top ten I think those would be the only three potential landing spots arty let's update some of the biggest stars the world of sports with some audio we get to a news brief time for your daily news brief we get you caught up on the rumors reports and reconnaissance from the day in sports let's start off with Caleb Williams we know he's gonna be the number one overall pick tonight the Bears are picking in at nine again who does he think the Bears should draft I was able to choose if I was pick number one of the Bears I'd probably go Olufeshaunu because I know he put his life in the round for me protected me and then and then geez I'd probably go one of the one of the top three wide receivers so in at number nine if you're like oh why do you mention it Olufeshaunu it's not crazy we've seen him mocked in the top ten they were high school teammates together but the wide receivers I don't think the Bears need another wide receiver but it could be an added luxury that if one of those guys in the top three Marvin Harrison Jr. Roma Dunes and Malik Nabors falls then they'll take them if not I think they do go on the defensive side of the ball I don't think they're gonna go offensive line because the Bears are pretty solid on the on the left and right side for the tackle positions of their offensive line here's JJ McCarthy I thought this is some of the more fascinating audio that I've heard in the draft process because if you have like an agreement like a hush-hush wink-wink agreement that we're gonna draft you if you're there and then you basically tell that to everybody well do you want to go to that team are you maybe trying to get someone else to move up for you here's JJ McCarthy though on the Rich Eisen show I have somewhat of an idea in New York Giants I've spent the most time with they're a phenomenal staff love coach table love you know mr. Shane love coach Tierney coach Kafka Chicago guy just being able to go in there pretty much know like most of the install because he came coach they will came from Alabama and coach Gaddis came to Michigan from Alabama so it's similar formations motions plays all that stuff so being able to get that install and what's been great you know I met with them twice it's been amazing I'd be surprised if it's the Pats you know we know that it's not the commanders of the Bears you know Minnesota's gonna try their hardest to move up I think he knows that he's not like you say that I think he knows that he's not getting past six but then also it's like pick me pick me pick me kind of energy as well from JJ McCarthy here is Deontay Johnson so he gets traded from the Steelers to the Panthers and I guess they had a big dinner with him and the brass in Carolina and he admitted he had no clue who Dave can Alice was the head coach as he was talking to him at this big fancy schmancy dinner day he was cool to know that at first I didn't know he was the head coach when I went out to dinner with him because he was just talking like this is energy he brains and uh and then after the dinner um I'm like somebody told me he was the head coach I'm like oh I was so surprised like well other than that like I love his energy um so like I said I'm excited to play for him isn't that amazing you get traded to a team and you go to dinner and when you sit down at that dinner and the coach starts speaking you had no clue who your head coach was that's wild here is uh Dave can Alice of the Panthers their head coach on Xavier Miller get he is the wide receiver out of South Carolina saying publicly that he guaranteed them that the Panthers if he's still there with their second round pick that yes that's the uh selection it would be Xavier so I just saw the video of uh Leggett saying that he's met with you guys four or five times and you guys have told him if he's there at 33 you're taking him yeah oh yeah that was I mean it was a great conversation you know I definitely said that to him and about 50 other guys you know like man so we take you at 33 it's actually a lead-in question so when we draft you at 33 what happens now and then there's a bunch of questions that happen after that you know so um yeah part of the process he gives me a little creepy vibes Dave can Alice just when I hear him like when I first heard Mike McDaniel speak and how much of an open book he was I'm like a little bit creepy and I ended up working out those are the vibes I get right now with Dave can Alice let's hear this LSU fan who was hit in the head by a home run ball the other day I mean it was on a rope and uh you know I've been carrying this glove with me for years and I was like okay now's my time I got one coming and holding the glove man what can I say being off my off my dome and here we are I've got a nice little goose egg does it hurt it don't feel good it felt like every bit of 109 mile an hour fastball uh home run ball yes did we get the ball afterwards no it skipped over the fence but uh Josh came to toss me their uh toss ball that they do in between innings so he tossed it to me probably Friday I'll go get uh Tommy White to sign it for me and uh maybe kiss my Bobo that's amazing did you see Russell Wilson the other day when he threw out the ceremonial first pitch at the Pirates game he brought a glove come on Russ you can't be thrown out the first I know you're a baseball player but you can't be throwing out the first pitch with with a glove fun show today big thanks to Sam sir big thanks to stew big thanks to Brian Billick big thanks to Andrew Perloff as well in each and every one of you we'll be back tomorrow and guess what tomorrow is it's a football Friday that's right NFL draft recap round two and three preview JR coming up next for the next two hours and it's JR and Bart for the Xfinity Xfinity Sports Network NFL draft preview show we'll talk to you tomorrow everybody we out here football fans the NFL draft is almost here and the free odyssey app brings you the latest coverage from the biggest sports radio stations across the country. 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