Week 5 Bounce Backs (Hour 3)

Alrighty, away we go. Hour number three of our radio program. It is the Zach Gelb show, coast to coast on CBS Sports Radio. We do kick off week five of the NFL season tonight with a wonderful matchup, if I may say so myself, with the Bears going up against the commanders.

Woof woof. This is not a game that really makes you want to run to the TV set. I will say this, though. This is the type of game where Roger Goodell goes, man, too bad Taylor Swift isn't dating like Sam Howell, or too bad Taylor Swift is not dating Justin Fields, because you're going to need more eyeballs to the TV set, or I guess streaming with Amazon, to get people to really pay attention. I'll give you more of my breakdown of this game later on in the hour.

I'm picking the commanders, I'll tell you that right now. I'll give you the play on the spread coming up in about 40 minutes, though, from now. But you look at week four, and you want to see which teams are going to bounce back in week five. You had the Miami Dolphins get blown out by the Buffalo Bills by a score of 48 to 20.

You take a look at the Green Bay Packers. They started week four last week on Thursday Night Football, and they lost in their own building, and the game was never competitive by 14 points. You then see the Cincinnati Bengals, who just got dominated, and that calf injury with Burrow is still impacting that team, but the Bengals lose to the Tennessee Titans by a score of 27 to 3. You see the New Orleans Saints, they had an awful showing where they couldn't even register a touchdown against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and then you take a glance at the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, we had Nico Collins on from the Texans earlier in the week, and Nico Collins had two touchdowns in the game, and did have over 150 yards receiving in that 30 to 6 victory for the Texans up against the Steelers. So we look at those five teams, and the Dolphins play the Giants this week, the Packers play the Raiders, the Bengals play Arizona, the Saints play the Patriots, and the Steelers play the Ravens, and we're trying to see those five teams, who's going to bounce back this week. You look at the Miami Dolphins, it's perfect timing coming off your only loss of the season, and what was a horrible performance for the Dolphins up against the Bills. You're in Miami, and you're welcome in the New York Giants. Does anyone have any confidence in the Giants right now? I do.

Oh yeah, sure. You're the biggest critic, like how William Hung can't stand Simon Cowell on American Idol. That's how Evan Neal probably looks at you right now with the New York Giants. He probably thought you were flipping hot dogs and flipping hamburgers. Also, can we address the elephant in the room on those comments?

And I know I talked about it in a very serious talk show host-like way earlier, where I kind of, I don't want to say justified Evan Neal's comments, but talked about how he's a 23-year-old kid, and how he grew up in a social media era, and this is the first time in his life he's ever had anything probably negative said about him by the majority of people. But when you make a hot dog, Samter, does anyone flip a hot dog? I've never heard of that term, flipping a hot dog. Flipping burgers, sure, but not flipping a hot dog. I mean, the only way I'll eat a hot dog is if it's in a boiling pot of water, like at a baseball game.

Really? So like a grilled hot dog, I don't care if you flip it, if you turn it, if you spin it, if you throw it in the air, you know, drop it on the ground, cover it in dirt, and throw it back on the grill. This is a hellacious take. No, you gotta, it's ballpark franks in hot water. It's the only way to eat them.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I consider myself a man's man, and I envisioned in the summer, the grill, and you have to have your hot dogs on the grill, some sausage on the grill, also burgers on the grill, and then maybe some lamb chops too, if you want to get a little bougie. Everyone likes a good lamb chop, but you're telling me that if, let's say, I invite you over, we have a barbecue this summer, and I put a hot dog on the grill, you will not eat it? I wouldn't even go near it.

I wouldn't even look at it. I might even boycott the rest of the food that may have been near it, or touched it while on the grill. Stu, I need your help here, because I almost feel as if CBS Sports Radio makes it their mission to surround me with idiotic producers who eat like a bunch of three-year-olds when it comes to the food department. Like Hot Take Kiki had some of the worst food takes I've ever heard a human being formulate out of his mouth and try to spew into a microphone, you can't do this, you can't do that. Not putting a hot dog on a grill and only consuming it in boiling water, that's a terrible job by Sour Take, Samthor. Yeah, it's awful. In a baseball game, it's one thing, but other than that, it reminds me of grade school where it'd be hot dog day and it'd just be disgusting and rubbery. No, no, no. So, Samthor, you prefer the New York City dirty water dog.

Oh my God, yes. Compared to, let's say, putting a nice wiener, a nice Hebrew National, right on the grill, have it glistening. You would rather just have someone dip the tongue into the dirty water and out they grab a wiener and they put it right on your plate where you then consume that wiener.

I mean, I might actually go right now and just hop downstairs and see if I can find the closest street vendor and grab one right now. That sounds delicious, absolutely. However, if we're grilling burgers, steak, chicken, and like, you know, wursts or different kinds of sausages, all for it on the grill, just not a hot dog. Because a hot dog is not real meat, so you might as well go, what are you talking about? Hot dogs are just a combination of just random junk thrown together into a little packaging and it's nasty. What do you put on your hot dog?

Two things and only two things and that's it. Mustard and sauerkraut. Those are the only two things that belong in a hot dog. You put ketchup on a hot dog, never talk to you again. Now, you haven't even discussed what's the best way to consume a hot dog, what type of hot dog. What do you mean what type of hot dog?

A Hebrew National for sure. No, no, no, no, no. The best hot dog is the pig in the blanket for multiple reasons. I go to a wedding, I go to any event, if they have pigs in the blanket, it's the great unifier in our country.

You could be Republican, you could be Democrat, it doesn't matter what religion you are, it doesn't matter what race you are. If you put a pig in a blanket in front of someone, it brings everyone together and it's instantly the best appetizer. I personally enjoy pigs in a blanket more than just your traditional hot dog, a big dog on a bun and with your sauerkraut and your ketchup, your mustard, whatever you want to do. I am personally more of a pig in a blanket fan than a hot dog fan.

Sure, I can go with that. I'm not a huge hot dog fan to begin with, but pigs in the blanket are fine. But if I'm at like a wedding, if I'm at a wedding or like some sort of a catered event and pigs in the blanket is the creme de la creme of the hors d'oeuvres, get me out of there. It was awful for my sister's wedding.

It was the one thing that I made sure was there. I said, I don't care how many photos you want me to take. I don't care what the drink selection is. I don't care who you sit me by.

I just need a pig in a blanket. And I was very happy customer. Anyway, you sound like a 12 year old. No, I don't.

I just sound like a logical human being. Do you also like like chicken fingers? Well, I do like chicken fingers, but I don't like go out of my way to say, oh, I can only eat it like Applebee's and get chicken fingers on half off apps. No, that's how I get to see you sitting with a, you know, a paper plate with some chicken fingers, Mac and cheese and pigs in the blanket.

No, no, no, no, no. I eat very well. And a Capri Sun or maybe some apple juice. Sam, I'll go get you a kitty's meal and I'll get you a kitty's toy.

All right. How about the Lunchables baby? Lunchables were a good high school snack. There's no doubt about that.

I love me some Lunchables. Anyway, get into these teams this week that identified that need to bounce back. Dolphins going up against the giants.

There's no doubt about it. The Dolphins should crush the Giants. The Giants are going nowhere this year. They're on their way to one in five. They're on their way to a top five pick in the NFL draft, maybe top 10. You know, five may be too harsh, but you look at the Dolphins.

It's a perfect get back spot and get right spot with two, a tongue of I love a Tyree kill and Jalen waddle. The Dolphins have speed. The Dolphins have a lot of star players. You look at the Giants offense. We'll see if Saquon Barkley comes back this week. Daniel Jones doesn't really intimidate anybody.

Darren Waller. He's a good tight end, but he's just so up and down and he hasn't really clicked yet with the Giants. I believe the Dolphins could absolutely destroy the Giants this week. Packers and the Raiders. You know, I think this is a week where we learn a lot about the Packers. The Raiders are no good.

The Raiders are no bueno, but for the Packers. Stu's about to start crying. Well, I'm just being truthful here and Stu would agree with this. He's not wrong. And Stu, you agree. The Packers should beat the Raiders this week.

Multiple touch hands, like 10, 14 points. Well, I wouldn't go that far. And I don't know if Garoppolo is playing. We'll see if Garoppolo plays this week.

I don't think that really moves the pendulum one way or another, but it's safe to say the Packers should beat the Raiders this week. I'm not saying blow them out. I'm not saying embarrass them.

I'm not saying just absolutely destroy them and emasculate them. But if the Packers are moving in the right direction, you should be able to beat an inferior football team. And even though we don't know what the Packers are, if the Packers lose this game, I'll be out in the Green Bay Packers for the rest of the season. And I like that defense.

I like Kenny Clark. You look on the offensive side of the ball. Now Watson's back. You got Dobbs. You know, A.J. Dillon I'm not a big fan of, but Aaron Jones is a good running back in this league. You should be able to beat a Raiders team that has no defense outside of Max Crosby. And on the offensive side of the ball, they have Devante Adams.

The coach doesn't know how to use Josh Jacobs, which is crazy to me. And you have underwhelming quarterback play. The Bengals. This game actually scares me for the Bengals this week because the Cardinals aren't any good, but the Cardinals at least give you a good first half effort. If the Bengals can't score points, though, in a 60 minute game against the Cardinals, we got big time problems in Cincinnati.

Now, I don't think they're going to arrest Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow is going to play in this game. And then you have Seattle and then you go into a bye week and you got to win these next two games. You got to find a way to get to three and three and salvage your season. But if Jamar Chase doesn't get in the end zone this week, I may never bet any time touchdown on Jamar Chase ever again, because the last two weeks, I thought it was a lock he would get in the end zone after not scoring the first two weeks of the season and wrong on both.

And no, that wasn't the emergency alert system that everyone got yesterday as well, which gave everyone a scare right at like 220 p.m. Eastern yesterday when they were testing it. But you got to think the Bengals are going to be able to score points. But the Cardinals are a team that through the first four weeks of the season, we all know they're not good, but they're going to be giving you a great effort. And you just wonder how long that could last, because I think the Cardinals have fed into no one believes in us very similarly to the twenty nineteen Miami Dolphins, where everyone's saying you're going to be the number one overall pick and you surprise some people. How long can you carry that momentum Saints and the Patriots?

This may be the biggest fifty fifty toss up game of the weekend. The Saints are overrated. I don't trust Derek Carr. He's dealing with an injury right now. You know, you have Alvin Kamara back.

Michael Thomas is a shell of himself. Crystal Lavi is a really good wide receiver on paper. That's a good defense. But the Saints are a team where I don't think they could win this year. They could only lose. Like even if they win the NFC South, everyone's reaction is going to be, oh, yeah, the Saints should win the NFC South. If they go in a playoff game, that's a different story. I don't think the Saints win a playoff game this year. But when you look at the Saints, I'll trust teams like Atlanta. I'll trust a team like Tampa Bay more than the Saints. And now you go into New England this weekend where the only thing intimidating about the Patriots is going into New England and just the aura about the Patriots and Foxborough.

But that's what it once was. Now this defense doesn't have Matthew Judon. They don't have Christian Gonzalez. This is a defense that's going to regress because of that. And on offense, you're going up against a bad offensive line, a bad quarterback and no wide receivers that are any good. If the Saints can't put up 21 points this week and walk out of Foxboro with the victory, I was never in on the Saints, but there's no reason then to believe in the New Orleans Saints.

And then finally, this is a tough one this week. I know Kenny Pickett may be inching towards playing and it's one thing for him to say it, but we'll see if he actually does play. But this is a bad spot for Kenny Pickett if he does play to be going up against the Baltimore Ravens. I know the Ravens have been decimated with injuries and you look at this game, both teams, their defenses have been pretty damn good.

This seems like it's going to be a slugfest. If Pickett does play, both of these quarterbacks are going to go up against these lethal defenses. I trust Lamar Jackson, obviously way more than Kenny Pickett. I don't think the Steelers bounce back this week against the Baltimore Ravens. I love the Ravens this week in kind of a low scoring game where it's going to be physical on both sides of the ball defensively for both of these offenses.

But how can you trust the Steelers offense right now compared to the Ravens offense when they do have Lamar Jackson? So those week five bounce backs, I expect the Dolphins to bounce back against the Giants. I expect the Packers to bounce back against the Raiders. I'm hesitant on the Bengals, but ultimately their talent does prevail up against the Cardinals. Saints and Pats, I guess I'll pick the Saints by a field goal. And then I think the Steelers continue to go the direction the Patriots are going in, which is the wrong direction. And the Steelers will lose to the Ravens this week. Who's going to bounce back this week in the NFL that lost in week four that will win in week 5 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS 8 5 5 2 1 2 42 27. We'll come on back. We'll update you on some of the biggest stories in the world of sports with some audio.

We call this segment the news brief, but the Zach Gelb show will take a time out first and we'll come on back in five minutes. Let's start off with Dolphins defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio. He got some pushback this week when Stefan Diggs was going off against the Miami Dolphins and had three touchdowns for the Bills and why he didn't have Xavian Howard shadow Stefan Diggs for the entirety of the game.

We gave Diggs a lot of attention, obviously enough, not enough, as far as dramatically. You know, in hindsight, maybe, but I really don't feel bad about that decision. I mean, I have kind of confidence and care and it didn't work out, but the second guessing was justified. So let me translate that to you and the coaches speak. That is him saying he got it wrong and they should have shadowed Stefan Diggs with Xavian Howard, but you have to understand the circumstance. The corner that got abused by Stefan Diggs is a second year corner and I don't think you want to ruin that kid's confidence.

So you're not going to come out and publicly say, yeah, I definitely got it wrong. But when he said the second guessing could be justified, it's him basically admitting he got it wrong, but not wanting to ruin the second year cornerback's confidence. Let's go to Cam Newton. How about this comment? So Tyreke Hill said in his next career he wants to become a porn star.

So Cam was asked about that and he revealed something about his junk. Listen up. I don't want to be no porn star. God blessed me with a lot of things, but he ain't blessed me with no hammer. I got two inches of straight venom. Had I been given a hammer, I wouldn't be wearing my pants right now. I mean, I got a lot of confidence, dog.

God knew what he was doing when he made me. He said, no, no, no. We're going to give him all that confidence. We're going to give him all that swag. We're going to give him all that height, body composition, all that. But whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Make it average.

All righty. We have to have a serious conversation about that. You think he's just having that conversation for clicks? Or do you think that's a genuine conversation that Cam just had? I think that he's a brilliant mastermind when it comes to the ladies because he has now done three things. He's gotten girls thinking about it. He's gotten girls curious about it. And he's also gotten girls lowering their expectations.

So if they do ever actually see it, it can't get any worse than what they're expecting. Cam Newton is a genius. He is confident. And I'm sure he's doing all right in that category to have that level of confidence, but brilliant. Man's a brilliant man. You just put in the YouTube chat, a poll question here.

Do you believe Cam that he has a small hammer? Man, the standards for CBS Sports Radio just went from like here to all the way down here. Well, I don't actually run the chat for CBS Sports Radio and the chat. Is that Stu? It's nobody. There's a third party somewhere in the building. Big brother's always watching? Someone's always watching.

I don't know who wrote this, where this came from, but it certainly wasn't me. I didn't think Stu had that in him. I don't think it is Stu. I still think it's Samtor. But Cap is always watching us with these cameras. There'll be days when Cap will just send me photos when I'm doing my show. And I'm like, I didn't even know this camera was on.

So I'm going to lean that that's Samtor in the poll question. But what I will say about this, I don't think Cam is lying, but maybe when you're in a locker room with a lot of other guys that have bigger hammers than you, it still doesn't mean that you have a small hammer. Just compared to the environment that you're in, you may wish you had a bigger hammer compared to the other players that you're comparing to maybe in passing when you see the other grown man in the locker room in the shower, I guess is what Cam's saying.

But Cam comes off as someone that has, and I got to remember on in the afternoon, not in the evenings anymore, as BDE, right? You would think Cam has BDE, but he basically just told you he only has, what did he say? Two inches of venom?

That, I don't understand what that even means. He's saying he only has a two inch part. Where's the venom mean? Is he going to kill somebody? No, I just think he knows. Maybe it's not how big it is. Just how you use it.

Listen, he's come up with a lot of euphemisms for that thing between a hammer and venom. So who knows? All right, we'll move on. I'm trying not to get fired here. Marshawn Lynch on why there's no relationship with Russell Wilson.

This is on the Club Shayshay podcast with Shannon Sharpe. I didn't with Pete and then I mean, you know, Russ was like the supporter back for me. You didn't have no type of relationship? Y'all didn't kick it like that? I respect Russell as a player and as a teammate. Anything that I say is going to come off as, you know, malice or as if I'm, you know, a hater or, but I mean, you know, as far as anything else, it's like, y'all didn't have a relationship outside of football.

No, there's no can't pick up the phone and call old boy or nothing. So I don't think Marshawn Lynch likes Pete Carroll, because he probably feels as if, right, some of the conversation has been that the reason why he didn't get the ball is because they were trying to get Russell Wilson the MVP. And then, you know, the interception happened with Malcolm Butler. So I understand why he doesn't like Pete Carroll. And what you hear a lot more from the Seahawks players is they all say like, oh, we're not rooting against Russell Wilson. But then you saw last year how all the Seahawks players danced on the grave of Russell Wilson. I think it goes back to the way that the defensive players thought that Pete Carroll treated Russell Wilson differently and coddled him compared to where Pete had a higher standard and was more critical of the defense because they were the legion of boom. They were this all time great defense. Whenever they didn't have a great game, Pete was probably more critical on the defense than he was in terms of being critical of Rustin in play well.

So none of this surprises me. And we kind of saw it last year where Pete got back in the good graces of some of the players because they all gathered together in kind of celebrating whether it was internally or publicly the failures of Russell Wilson once he left the Seattle Seahawks. Here is Gilbert Arenas on his own show, The Gilbert Arenas Show, as he rips the Heat culture. Y'all can get Dwight Howard because he's trying to get back in the NBA.

So that that type of culture he's going to go for. But a star player who's been in like they've seen what it is like you're not going to get KD. You're not going to convince KD to come there and go through like I'm a professional already. You're trying to break me not to go to South Beach.

That ain't me. Well, LeBron joined Heat culture. Chris Bosh joined Heat culture with Pat Riley being there.

I don't think it's made for everybody. And it's more conducive to someone like Jimmy Butler that then it enables Jimmy Butler to become a top 10 player because he buys in and has a similar thought process of Pat Riley. But do I really need to hear Gilbert Arenas lecturing people on culture?

Like, I don't think that's the best source on lecturing people on culture. And it seemed like Dame Lillard was pretty OK joining that culture as well. Yeah, because Dame Lillard is the perfect fit for Heat culture. He's a guy that I know that you could say maybe it got all dramatic, but forever he didn't want to request a trade because he thought he was going to look bad.

And everyone knew he wasn't going to look bad. A guy like Kevin Durant? Yeah, maybe he does butt heads with Pat Riley because KD is all about the power and KD wants to control the organization. But LeBron James is very similar, right? LeBron goes anywhere and he gets to call the shots. But that wasn't the case in Miami because there's some guys that I don't want to say have more clout than LeBron because no one in the NBA has more clout than LeBron. But with what Pat Riley did, LeBron respected it. And remember, LeBron tried to get Eric Spulcher fired and Pat said, no, that's not happening. I'm not coming back to coach. And you kind of saw Pat won out against LeBron and then ultimately LeBron left and used some of the things that Pat Riley said as motivation whether he wants to admit that or not.

Michael Malone, the coach of the defending world champion Denver Nuggets on the Lakers yapping back and forth in media days, this courtesy of ESPN. Oh, they're talking about us? Yeah. That was like four months ago?

Yeah. No, I can't speak for anybody in LA. You know, I can speak for 17 players on our team, 18 players now in that group. But if they're still worried about us, that's on them. So there was a lot of back and forth. Even Stu can attest to it between the Lakers and the Nuggets. And this all goes back to the Nuggets were annoyed even when they were winning and even when they were dominating the Los Angeles Lakers. LeBron makes it the story. Oh, you know, who knows what my future is going to have here?

And then you have every Tom, Dick and Harry in the media the next day. 855-2124 CBS. Is LeBron going to retire? Is he leaving the Lakers? And we all knew LeBron was just trying to deflect from the fact that he got swept and he floated out some uncertainty, as I say that in air quotes, about his future. So I don't anticipate the Nuggets to love the Lakers, nor should they. And I think this is actually good for the NBA because here's what annoys me about the NBA now.

And this is part of LeBron's fault too. Everyone tries to be friends with everybody. Everyone's buddy buddy with everybody.

And it drives me crazy. I'm not saying you have to hate people and you have to really have all these contentious relationships, but it's okay in sports to have rivalries. And if this is a rivalry, I'm all for it and I'm all good with it. And even though Jimmy Butler was a little bit wacky at media day the other day, he's using Damian Lillard not going there as a way to kind of fuel up this rivalry between the Heat and the Milwaukee Bucks. And he's going after the Bucks coach and he said he doesn't like him. And everyone knows that about him, about their time in Chicago. And he's going to kind of use this as motivation and also say, oh, the Bucks were tampering, which we all know that they weren't.

There's no way to tamper here, at least that I could figure out in this situation. So I think some of this, I don't know if hatred's the right word, but friction and back and forth is good for the NBA because it drives me nuts with the NBA when it's like all this buddy-buddy league and no one actually gives a you-know-what about the regular season. Here is Sean McDonough and he was on the play-by-play last night where the Rays barely had no one in the building for an elimination game.

They had no one in the building for their first game in the wild card and he ripped and he ripped Rays fans. It's courtesy of ESPN. Now I saw that he got some blowback for this.

Are we really that sensitive in society now? The goal as the play-by-play person is to tell you what's going on. Now you could add some color to it. You could be a little bit more bold than maybe the button-up broadcaster and I'm a big fan of Sean McDonough. I thought Sean McDonough was excellent on Monday Night Football. I don't love him for hockey, if I'm being honest, but college football, I think he's tremendous when he has that voice crack too. Touchdown!

I absolutely love that. But Sean McDonough going after the Rays fans last night, it's 100% spot on. I know that they were disappointing in the playoffs. They got swept out. Every team got swept out this year. You know that loss and the wildcard round's already over and we wait for Saturday for baseball to pick back up with the division series, but you look at that Sean McDonough comment. If you're a Rays fan and you're annoyed by that, have more fans show up and it's embarrassing when you have a team that's been so good for so long and that stadium is empty?

That's pathetic. And I don't like to advocate moving a team because if I was a P1 fan of that team and I had someone on the radio basically bloviating about, oh that fan base doesn't deserve a team, it would drive me bonkers. But when you can't even fill a building or come close to filling a building for a playoff game, like you don't deserve the team.

And if Major League Baseball wants to rip the Rays out of Tampa, I would have no problem with it. All right, let's go to Teddy Lehman who used to play at Oklahoma, I believe, and he has thrown some shade here at Quinn Ewers courtesy of the Oklahoma breakdown with Eicher to Lehman. I think he's average. I think the offense creates a bunch of really good opportunities for him and he's good at those, but I don't think he has elite arm talent.

I don't think he has elite athleticism. Man, if you're saying that and I know he's, is he, Sam, he's what on the Oklahoma broadcast team? Yes, he's an analyst for Oklahoma and he obviously has this podcast and he's a former linebacker for the seniors.

So associated with Oklahoma gets a paycheck from Oklahoma, but I'm not saying that he's on the team right now, even though he gets a paycheck for Oklahoma. It's not like a player or coach saying that. I think that's a little bit harsh, especially with the way that Quinn Ewers dominated up against Alabama and say what you want about Alabama this year. Their offense is not good, but they do have a good defense.

If you're going to say that, you better have Oklahoma win this weekend. And this is a big statement for Brett Venables. This is a big statement for Dylan Gabriel too. I thought that was a little bit too harsh on Quinn Ewers. I don't think Quinn Ewers is great.

I don't think he's going to be a great pro, but he's been a good college quarterback and he's showing that this year with almost 1400 yards passing, 10 touchdowns, only one interception and having the best win of the season in college football going into Tuscaloosa and beating the Alabama Crimson Tide by 10 points. But I can't wait. That adds more fuel to the fire here for Red River this upcoming Saturday at noon between Texas and Oklahoma. All right, we'll take a break here on the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. We will come on back.

We'll give you a thought in the game tonight between the commanders and bears, and also we'll get into the latest with James Harden. But actually, before we get the update, let me just quickly go to Jack in Tucson. He's on hold right now.

855-212-4CBS. He wants to, I guess, enlighten us on the hot dog debate that we were having earlier where Samta was saying he only likes the dirty water hot dog. He could only boil hot dogs.

And I'm like, okay, you get the hot dog on the grill like any other sane human being. Jack, what's happening? Good afternoon. I'm doing well. How are you doing today? Doing fantastic.

What's in your mind? All right. So I've been a cook since about 1996. Okay. I've cooked from San Francisco to New York. I love a dirty water hot dog. But whether you're in Shorehills, Verona, you're doing catering.

If you don't have a pig in a blanket, it's not a party. Thank you. I'm just saying. I'm 100% with you. Have a great day.

Love you guys show. Wait, Jack, I have one quick question here for you. Go ahead. Were you made aware of what Evan Neal said yesterday? Just wondering.

I was not. I did not hear that. So Evan Neal, offensive lineman, formerly of Alabama, now plays with the Giants.

The Giants stink. He's getting booed left and right. And he said, why would a lion concert himself at the opinion of a sheep?

The person that is commenting on a performance, what does he do? Flip hot dogs and hamburgers somewhere? Some of that's in the food industry.

How does that make you feel, Jack? You know, I didn't take it directly as a comment on the food industry. I took it as a person who had privilege and was speaking down on others. And for for what?

Like, these people pay your salary and show up and how much they pay for those PSAs and those tickets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good phone call, Jack. Appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Alrighty.

Well, come on back. We'll wrap up the show. Thought in the game.

Also get into James Harden as well. But standing by first with latest CBS Sports Radio update, here's the Ack man, Rich Ackerman. Passes for 190 yards. I may be mistaken, but I also thought that was a Thursday night football game as well. It kind of feels as if that was another one of those early season disaster Thursday night football games for Al Michaels, where Al, welcome to Amazon for your number two with Prime Video. And you get this matchup, I believe once again. And to give you a thought in the game tonight, I don't even know if I'm going to bet this game tonight. I have to watch this game, but I look at this game. This is an ugly, sloppy game. And I have no expectations for the Bears offense. The Bears offense is non-existent if we're being fair. And the commanders, I think, are a solid team that at best this year go nine and eight, maybe 10 and seven if everything goes right, but probably nine and eight.

And they could be the seventh and final seed in the wildcard. So I guess if I had to make a play tonight, I take the under and I hate betting unders because then you're watching a game and you're rooting for there to be no points. And when you watch football and I'm sure we could all find at times a good defensive battle to be intriguing, but we want fireworks. We want explosions. We want points.

We want touchdowns. So I'd probably play the under tonight and I don't see. And maybe this is a sucker bet because everyone's going to look at this and go, oh, the Bears stink. So lay the points with the commanders and then maybe the commanders, right? And there are two victories. It's by a combined three points in the margin of victory. So you probably should plus the points here with the Bears, but I'll be a sucker like everybody else tonight. And I'll lay the six points. If I had to make a play on this game, I would go commanders minus the six.

And then I would also take the under here of 45 points. But this is a hold your nose type of game. And this is if you have a sleep mask, maybe you just lower the sleep mask and you try to pass out there in the game and just listen, you know, really be like an old man, like my Papa Eddie towards the later years of his life. He would sit on the couch and the recliner and the recliner chair actually. And he would lean back, mouth open, start to snore. And then you would change the channel of the game and he'd be like, I was watching that.

I was watching. I'm like, grandpa, you've been knocked out cold for about an hour. So this is one of those games where you could doze off and then wake back up and hope that you're in the fourth quarter with two minutes to go and hope it's a game. You know what's going to happen? This can be must watch TV tonight. Well, Booger McFarland once said, or it may have been Al Michaels was one of the two. Sometimes same, same.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's not like I'm about to quote something historical, but, but one of them said, sometimes a game is so bad that it actually could be good and entertaining if you know what I'm saying. And that could be tonight between these two football teams where the commanders are in a much better spot, but their ceiling is just being the seventh and final playoff spot where the Bears are destined to be the first and maybe second pick of the draft because the Bears also have the Panthers pick.

8-5-5-2-1-2-4 CBS, 8-5-5-2-1-2-42-27. Look at what Santa started here with his terrible take about hot dogs. So you could only boil hot dogs. And if you put them on a grill, you're an animal.

And like the entire nation saying, hold on, wait a second. We all put our hot dogs on a grill. Let's go to Matt in Alaska. He wants to chime in on the hot dog conversation because he's a big hot dog aficionado. Matt, what's happening?

Hey, what's going on, man? You know, hot dogs are my second favorite food only to be one upped by the versatile taco. So the two best ways to eat a hot dog or to leave them on, you know, you get the real cheap ones, like 99 cents a pack from the grocery store and you leave that meat-like product in a rubber casing on the grill for two or three minutes too long until it gets nice and charcoaly. And so you got that nice little smoky flavor to it.

Second best way is go to your roadside highway gas station and wander to the back. Get one off the roller. Yeah, the rollers, the rollers are great call. Everyone's got to love a roller hot dog. So, so, you know, you got to snap through that rubber casing to let all the, all the goo and all that good flavor out. You know, those are the best two ways to eat a hot dog. Anybody that's blowing a hot dog.

Well, I guess, I guess they just don't know much about the finer things in life, like a burnt hot dog and a gas station dog. Matt, I appreciate the time. He said boiling a hot dog well, correct? Is that what he said? Yes. Okay. I thought he said something else. No, he said boiling it well. Okay.

I thought we got pranked there for a second. Then I said, oh, he said boil, but that's just maybe where my mind is in the, in the gutter. No, but he's not wrong that burning a hot dog to a crisp on a grill is the only way to actually eat it off a grill.

Cause then you can't actually taste how disgusting it is. Have you been to one of the most famous hot dog places in America? Nathan's? No. Well, that is one of the more famous hot dog places, but that's not the one I was talking about. Rut's Hut in New Jersey.

No. Rut's Hut is a legendary hot dog place. They call their hot dogs rippers. Now I never knew this until recently that they have a cremator dog as well. And it sits in the bottom of the grease for the entire like day.

And at night you could go in there or, you know, I think the place is open almost like pretty close to 24 hours. So they just have a bunch of hot dogs that have been sitting down there and they pull it out and they serve it to you. That is the cremator hot dog at Rut's Hut. I've never tried it.

Cause I've just gone with the ripper and a well done Frenchy. That's a French fry. And then also a cup of chili from Rut's Hut. I've never understood hot dog places, right? There's burger places all over the place. Well, there's a place in Chicago that I'm dying to go to. It's called the Wiener Circle.

And at the Wiener Circle, it is a 24, seven type of joint. And they just dehumanize you when you walk in. So you have people cooking hot dogs and they'll yell at you. They'll curse at you.

They'll freak out at you and they'll just treat you like you're a piece of crap, but they'll just go on and on and on and yelling at you. And it's one of those drunk fun places that I've heard, just seeing the videos throughout the years, the Wiener Circle in Chicago. Yeah. There's a couple of places like that around. Which it's kind of fun. It's more fun when you bring somebody who doesn't know that that's what the shtick of the place is. And they go in there and they just think that people are being rude. And to see the look on somebody's unsuspecting face is fantastic.

So I've never been there, but one of my friends is in Chicago and I just told my friend, you have to go to the Wiener Circle. And then he texted me, he goes, what the heck was that? All right, real quickly, one final thought before we get on out of here, James Harden. I'm so sick and tired of James Harden. I can't stand the guy. The guy's a Hall of Famer.

We all know that. But come the postseason, the dude isn't clutch. He's a pain in the ass.

And let's also be clear about this. James Harden only cares about partying now. James Harden only cares about going to the strip club and going to the buffets. He does not care about the entirety of the regular season and winning a championship. And now he's mad at Daryl Morey. He goes to China.

He says, Daryl Morey is a liar. Never play for the Sixers. He's going to show up to training camp. He's going to be a problem. He's going to be a pain in the butt.

And here's my question. If James Harden is still so attractive in his own mind that all these other teams are going to want him and he wants to force a trade out of Philadelphia, why is no one taking the bait yet? Why is no one traded for him yet? Because there's really only one destination that he could go. The Heat aren't bringing him in.

He's the antithesis of Heat culture, right? The Bucks and Celtics already made a bunch of moves. Really, the only place that he could go is LA.

And I'm not talking about the Lakers, even though LeBron's buddy, buddy with everybody. So maybe he would take on James Harden, but it would be the Clippers. And James Harden would fit the Clippers culture where they don't really care about the regular season.

Make your own schedule, show up when you want, load management, go out and have a good night on the town. And then we'll hope everyone can be healthy and make a nice little postseason run. So I'm just at the point now where I could sit here and I could scream and yell until the cows come home about James Harden. But it's a waste of energy because this guy is a hall of famer. There's no doubt about it, but he's always left me thinking that there could be more to James Harden.

And I just don't think his motor and I don't think his drive is there. And it's the same old playbook all the time. He goes somewhere, he makes it look like it's a good situation to start, whether that's in Houston, whether that's in Brooklyn, whether that's in Philadelphia.

And ultimately he reaches an expiration date and he takes zero accountability and he becomes a pain in the rear end on the way out. Alrighty, that is a Thursday edition of the Zach Gelb show. We'll be back tomorrow for a big football Friday show as we get rocking and rolling Monday through Friday, three to 6 p.m. Eastern, noon to 3 p.m. Pacific. Big thanks to each and every one of you for calling, listening and tweeting. Also like to thank the passionate crew in the YouTube chat that have been called by the show that used to be in this time slot, the Weedos and the Purple Drankers. We'll see what we'll call them moving forward. Great job out of Sam.

There's two also like thanks your blood. So we'll talk to you tomorrow. Everybody we out. Bye bye. Peace.