Jim Irsay Wants Daniel Snyder Out (hour 1)

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This dumb producer, Hot Take Kiki. A very timely drop today, by the way, because Hickey has been able to, I don't want to say form of friendship because I'm friendly with the guy. But since I'm friendly with the guy, he hates Hickey because Hickey usually has a lot of, let's just say, points on the radio. So Leroy Hoard, the former NFL running back, played his college football, a Pro Bowl running back. This is my favorite thing about it.

He played his college football at Michigan. So out of nowhere today, I'm just minding my own business, you know, just sitting around enjoying life, and I get a text from Leroy Hoard. And it goes, you let that Hot Take Kiki know I didn't forget about that ass-beating we gave his boys last week. Fifth in the country against the run, and then ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And it continued with Leroy Hoard talking a lot of smack. And I think Hickey had to just change his diaper again because now he's intimidated that Leroy Hoard's going to fly up from Miami to kick your ass, just like the Michigan Wolverines kicked the crap out of your Penn State Nittany Lions. So how about that? A former Michigan football player, a former NFL running back, he can't stand Hot Take Kiki.

What do you have to say about yourself? Hey, listen. He can be mad.

He can talk all the smack he wants. Michigan may have won on the field, on the scoreboard. Oh, you're such a loser. You know where they lost the game, or they lost the entire day?

They didn't lose at all. With their awful, pathetic, weak maze-out. Leave the color-coordinated crowd to the experts.

And I also want to say, not intimidated by Leroy. So you get big crowds, you don't win a big game. So, so what? You guys show up? Is that what Penn State has become?

Participation trophy you? That's what you guys are becoming? That's what you're saying? Because I guess Michigan had a maze-out or whatever you were saying? So you guessed, you didn't even know.

You watched the game, you couldn't even tell because it was that bad. They kicked your ass, they embarrassed you, and they took your lunch. Show some emotion for once. My goodness gracious. I've been to the big house before. I actually had a conversation today. I took my dad out for lunch today, being a good son. And my dad goes, what's one of the best environments you've ever been to? And he was, this was on the cusp of me going to Penn State at the end of the month, as I'm planning to go to Penn State, Ohio State. And I said, well, the best stadium I've been to, just in the way the stadium was built, was SoFi Stadium. But if you have to put in history, and if you have to put in the atmosphere, and all of that, I go, Notre Dame or the big house.

That's just for me. And my dad goes, you've been to Penn State before, right? I go, yeah, I've been to Penn State before.

It's a great crowd, it's a great atmosphere. But if you're going to say that the Michigan fans aren't passionate, and the Michigan fans aren't crazy and nuts, you've lost your damn mind. And that's what you've gone to, that is how low your football team has taken to you, that you need to throw a party because you guys throw a whiteout, and you're afraid to actually maybe get beat in this whiteout game, that you have to have this whiteout this year, against Minnesota? That's who you're having the whiteout against? You got to schedule an easier opponent than a tougher opponent for the whiteout, because you're afraid about maybe some of the better opponents on your schedule, Hickey? I usually have, well, I don't know if I usually have respect for you.

I try to have respect for you. This is an all-time bad moment for you. You've had a lot of bad takes, and trust me, we'll get into your Broncos' takes, because they are looking the farthest thing from a Super Bowl team. They're not even a Super Bowl contender. Daniel Hackett is looking like the farthest thing from a Top 3 coach of the year.

Russell Wilson, he looks more like the most valuable bum in the NFL, let alone the most valuable MVP. All things that you said, but all of that pales into comparison to this take now, that your response to Leroy Hord and the best smack talk you could come up with when a former NFL running back is trying to take a shot at you is, oh, well, your crowd wasn't great. That's all you could do. Anyone else you want me to say? I mean, I was running for 100 yards yesterday. You just take your beating and shut up in that case. Leroy would have put on pads. He would probably run for 200 yards on Saturday if he was playing. Like, they couldn't stop a nosey.

What do you want me to do? Right over 418 yards. I will say this. As pathetic as that is, it's not as pathetic as what Penn State did in that little kerfuffle at halftime between the Penn State players and the Michigan players. You love peanut butter and jelly, right? I think it would be favorite food of all time. I think it would be peanut butter and jelly. Penn State. Actually, no, peanut butter and jelly. The Mets, Penn State, the Colts, and then your girlfriend, probably in order of most important things in your life. Correct, Amundo?

No, that is actually very false. My girlfriend is number one for sure. Stop. Stop.

Without a doubt. You gave up spending time with your girlfriend to watch a Colts preseason game. It was the most important preseason game I've ever seen.

What do you want to do? It's history. You were such a loser. They didn't even play well in that game, so not great.

Yeah, they got they got killed. Surprise, surprise. But anyway, you love peanut butter and jelly.

It's your favorite food. Did you see a Penn State player staff member? I don't know who it was. Was hurling peanut butter and jelly, a sandwich, two sandwiches I saw thrown from the Penn State locker room directed at the players of Michigan. That is horrible. That's an embarrassment. I thought their run defense was embarrassing.

Shout out Manny Diaz. Hello. But the most embarrassing thing I saw from that game was at halftime when the Penn State players or people on Penn State are wasting good peanut butter.

What are we doing here? That's a disgrace. You had to be living with it.

You may need to find the new school. I've not seen the video, so I cannot confirm nor deny it was a PB&J that was being thrown. Maybe it was ham and cheese. I'm hoping it was a grilled cheese. Peanut butter. But if that's the case, bad job. Bad job.

I don't really know what that's going to do. Number one, you get a PB&J thrown in your face or with a helmet on. What's your favorite peanut butter again? Jif. Oh, yeah, that's the only one.

No, no. The really bad peanut butter. Skippy's better. Maybe they just had some bad Jif in the locker room with all that salmonella.

Hey, Skippy didn't get on any recall recently. No one's eating it. That's why no one knows they got salmonella. You're so wrong on that.

But maybe with Jif, that was actually like a decent line. You finally showed up and had a pulse today, unlike your Penn State football team over the weekend. But maybe they got a bite of that Jif peanut butter and go, oh, salmonella, and just started throwing at the Michigan players because of that disgraceful brand of peanut butter. But you got to be disgusted. You have to be disgusted. Oh, I am.

Yeah. At every facet, the run defense, peanut butter and jelly is getting wasted. It was a bad Saturday from noon to three Eastern. And the only thing that may be able to top that Saturday was just your weak and pathetic and bad response to Leroy Hoard. Anyway, I am not surprised in something that we learned today.

I'm just surprised in how we learned it. So last week we talked on this show about Dan Snyder, and there was this article from ESPN that Dan Snyder has hired investigators and they are tracking NFL owners and Roger Goodell because he has this fear that he's going to get kicked out of the league and they're going to vote him out. And Dan Snyder basically wants to send a message in this report that if you're going to kick me out, I'm not going to go down without a fight. I'm going to burn the house down with me and I will expose everything about all the other skeletons that are in the owner's closet. Now, on this very fine radio program, last week I said, call his bluff, NFL.

And Hickey disagreed with me on this, but I said so many people would be doing somersaults and cartwheels in the street and would be jumping up and down like fat kids in a candy store. If you remove Dan Snyder, that may be, other than a 24-hour, 48-hour kind of time period reaction, they would probably put aside all that information that Dan Snyder may or may not have just because it means that Dan Snyder is out and they would chalk it up to Dan Snyder being salty or Dan Snyder just kind of being like that crazy uncle at your barbecue that you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever he's saying, even though you don't agree with anything he's saying, just so you can distance yourself from the conversation. Now, we had Grant Paulson on, if you recall, from 106.7, the fan in D.C. last week, and I asked him, do you think five years from now Dan Snyder is still going to be the owner of the commanders?

And he said, yes, but I'm not as confident after reading that article as I was if you would have asked me like a week ago or two, three, four years ago. And I said on this show that I do think there is momentum moving to get Dan Snyder out of the NFL, and it would not surprise me, and I would expect that through time he would lose his team. Now, Jim Irsay, Hickey's favorite owner in the NFL because of the team that he owns, the Indianapolis Colts, there's NFL owner meetings going on, I guess in New York right now, and Jim did address the media, and when talking to the media, Jim Irsay said that he believes there is merit to removing Dan Snyder as the owner of the commanders, which that is a big time, big time, big time statement, because I felt as if there was a push from the owners to get Dan Snyder out, but I never would have thought in a million years when you knew this was going to be a topic of conversation this week, that you would get an NFL owner on the record, speaking out publicly, and shredding, and making a case for Dan Snyder to get the boot out of the NFL. I guess there was a follow-up, because you need 24 votes from the owners to kick Dan Snyder out and to get that process underway, and Jim Irsay when asked, do you think there will be 24 votes, he goes, I think potentially there will be. So now, the way that we're going to kind of look at this is, I'm not surprised that momentum is shifting to Dan Snyder getting out of the NFL, I'm just surprised that one owner was so blunt, was so honest, and was so direct about it, where now this is going to be a major, and I mean a major topic of conversation, and all the pressure now goes to Dan Snyder on what information do you have, if any at all, that is really damaging, and are you going to release that information now, or are you going to wait until whenever this vote occurs, once the NFL wraps up their investigation and all that, and wait to react or you're going to be proactive. That's what I'm wondering, and if you know anything about Dan Snyder, the guy plays dirty, and he's petulant, and he's immature, so it would not surprise me in the next week, next two weeks, three weeks, or maybe as quick as 24 hours, if Dan Snyder starts talking to members of the media, not with him on the record, but just leaking information about maybe what he has on the other NFL owners. Now if you're Jim Mercy, who does have a controversial pass, he must feel pretty confident that Dan Snyder has nothing on him, because today he basically challenged Dan Snyder, you want to attract us owners, you want to attract the commissioner, Roger Goodell, well come get some, we want you out of the league, I want you out of the league, there's potential for you to be dismissed, and I think I have other owners on board that would agree with me enough to get you out, so go unleash your information. That's the way that I interpreted it today, when Jim Mercy, not that he directly said that, but he did say that he thinks there is merit to remove Dan Snyder as the owner of the commanders. So Hickey, once again I'll say, I was never surprised about momentum moving for Dan Snyder to be out, I just never thought you would have an owner on the record this early in the game with the article last week addressing it, and once again Jim Mercy shows you, when you put a microphone in front of his mouth, you have no clue what the heck he's going to say. I am just as surprised as you, I did not see the source either being Jim Mercy, of all the owners that would speak out on this issue for sure when it comes to Daniel Snyder's future, and to your point too, just how quickly this happened, the article was released last week, I did not think this was, if it ever was going to be removed, it happened anytime soon. Like if someone was going to talk about it, you'd probably think it would be Jerry Jones, and I know that they're close supposedly, and he's talked about this but they didn't give anything explosive, or Robercrack. Like those are the two owners that probably around the league carry the most clout, and I would also say the Rooney and Mara families as well, but John Mara is not really outspoken in a critical way about the NFL. I don't usually hear him being, let's say, a center of attention kind of guy like Jerry Jones is in the way that Robercrack also likes to attract attention his way. And you mentioned before, Jerry Jones has asked about it on the 105 through the fan in Dallas last week, and basically just gave the shortest answer I think I've ever heard Jerry Jones write.

Yeah you're right, we played that. He's not talking about it, I don't want to talk about it. And now it's like Jim Irsay, whether all the owners have talked about in the meeting and he was just kind of repeating what was said, or he's just kind of getting the ball rolling, he gives the owners no choice now but to talk about it and frankly make a decision. Like right after you hear what Jim Irsay is saying, the clock is ticking, right? Don't the owners have to start now having a discussion? I would think that Jim Irsay is speaking for how he feels a large contingency of owners speak because if a lot of owners were on the side of keeping him and not kicking him out of the league, and you're the one guy that's saying yeah let's kick him out, then you become unpopular. So he has to think that he will have the backing of the owners when he goes out and speaks about this publicly. So from Mike Florio, per source, the owners only session hasn't happened yet in New York, so Irsay's comments make a conversation on Daniel Snyder unavoidable. And I don't think Daniel Snyder is at these meetings. If I remember last week, it's Tanya Snyder who now goes to all these meetings, but then I saw last week that this ban wasn't really a ban, but Dan Snyder stepping away from day-to-day operations isn't the case anymore and he's back to resuming all responsibilities.

You could just do that for a show last year when it came down. His wife was technically the person running day-to-day operations. They live together, they eat dinner together, they sleep together. It was just a complete clown show by the NFL and they gave him a fine.

What does the fine actually really do? So I'll ask you this. In five years from now, is Dan Snyder still the owner of the Commanders? Because I said last week momentum was shifting for that to be the case that he was going to be out. I don't expect him to be. I think this is a major step where I don't expect Dan Snyder in the next five years to be owning this team anymore because finally owners are turning on one of their own and you usually don't see that in the NFL. I mean at this point I'd say even two years.

Yeah, I was just throwing out five because that's the way it grants. He could be out by the end of the year. Now you never know how these NFL investigations work playing it out or play out. So who knows on the timeline of it. But I think we are moving closer to the end of Dan Snyder sooner rather than later. And I would have never thought with how they protected him for years and years and years and years that would be the case.

And I know people could say it's about the workplace conduct and the culture and all that. But this may come down to him not being able to get a new stadium. That may have been the last straw that broke the camel's back for the NFL owners when it comes to Daniel Snyder.

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It is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. And Jim says there is reasons to make Daniel Snyder sell the team. You know, I believe that there's merit to remove him as owner of the Redskins. I think it's something that we have to review. We have to look at all the evidence and we have to be thorough in going forward.

And then Jim also said on when a possible vote could happen to potentially remove Dan Snyder as the owner of the commanders. It's hard to say. You know, I don't know how long it will take. Certainly we're going to be thorough and look at everything. And, you know, it could be at the March meeting. It could be.

I don't I don't know. But I know we want to be thorough. So in this Seth Wickersham piece that came out last week, first off, Daniel Snyder completely denied, to no surprise, everything that did get reported in the piece by ESPN. I'll just ask you this question, Hickey, because this kind of ignited more conversation about this and ignited maybe a more contentious feel between Dan Snyder and the other thirty one owners potentially turning on Jerry Jones, basically saying that they've hired investigators to track the other owners and track the commissioner, Roger Goodell, to air all their dirty laundry if they're going to kick out one Dan Snyder. Who do you think released the Snyder view of this to Seth Wickersham? Was it maybe some of the other NFL owners that got wind of this? Was it Dan Snyder himself? Was it confidants to Dan Snyder that started to feel maybe that Dan Snyder was going to get kicked out of the NFL?

So we have to throw this inflammatory information out there. I wonder who was the main Snyder source in this stuff. I know it's people close to Snyder, they said, but I wonder really who was the person that revealed the thoughts of the inner thinking of one Dan Snyder right now.

I would guess Dan Snyder or someone working for Dan Snyder because Dan Snyder instructed maybe it's not pro Snyder. But it's one of those where it's kind of like an open threat, like, hey, if you're thinking about this, just kind of, you know, remember what I got going. If this is someone I was upset with them, I don't think you would make the dirt known.

I guess I'll say that kind of only helps keep them around instead of getting them out faster. And not only that, it would be a very much so of a Dan Snyder move where I feel threatened. So I'm going to start punching back and I'm going to start going to the level of, oh, well, I may have done this, but I have X, Y and Z on you.

So if you think you're going to try to get me out of the league, I'll put out information X, Y and Z to try to expose you. This really does feel like we're dealing with toddlers. And it was a serious issue, but we're dealing with toddlers that are growing up like a brother and a sister fighting right now, or two brothers really fighting. That's what this feels like.

Kind of pathetic, but when you're dealing with billionaires and billionaires, a lot of billionaire babies, a lot of petty. 855-212-4CBS. Let's go to Jay in Alabama. Jay, what's shaking, my man? What's going on? First of all, how you going to break the bro code on live radio like you did probably about a half hour ago? What did I do? Man, you ratted on your boy. You watched the Indiana Colts game over your own girlfriend. Now his girlfriend's got to hear that. Yeah, but that was already well documented, Jay.

I broke that bro code about like before the start of the season, so almost two months ago now. We did a whole segment on it. We had an intervention. Our boss called in. We had producers from down the hall come in, people that were concerned about Hickey. He was messing this one up.

So that was already aired publicly on the radio. This is the one time I feel bad for Hickey anyway. Because you already know me and Hickey's history, but this is the one time I feel bad.

What's your history with Hickey? I'm the one who was calling him dumb Tay Kickey, bro. That's right. That is right.

That's great. See, I was being nice. I was just calling him hot Tay Kickey. You called him dumb Tay Kickey, so I applaud that, Jay, in Alabama.

That's a great job out of you. No, it was the man's side beating me and him on Twitter. But as far as Snyder, bro needs to chill because it's just like one of my friends down here on the rail down here was saying last week. Dude, you're snitching on a bunch of billionaires. You've never heard of the name Jimmy Hoffa, which nobody can find, or UEP Long, which has a bridge named after him in New Orleans that nobody can find. It's like, dude, it's kind of like you're really breaking a billionaire's code right here, and it's kind of silly. You've got to be a real narcissist to really be willing to take you and everybody else through something like this. It's like, cut your losses and go. Yeah, if this was the Sopranos right now, and if we were playing Sopranos out in real life, he would have been whacked.

He would have been brought on a boat, and they would bring him out, and they would just whack him and throw him into the sea. Like Big You Know Who. Yes, exactly. Like Big You Know Who. 110% correct.

J in Alabama. Fun fact, my cousin's ex, who's a very nice guy, this guy Steve, in the show The Sopranos, he was Big You Know Who's son in the show Sopranos. Oh, that's crazy. I mean, like one of the all time great late 90s and early 2000s. I mean, as you see every season, every episode, but this really like comes off as that.

And like you remember, remember the coach that was, I forget the coach got fired from Miami and he was saying like, Oh, they're fixing games, they're fixing games. Yeah, yeah. You see how quickly that like see? You know what I mean? Like that got extinguished real quick.

And even like in the movie Concussion, the doctor had people camping outside of his house that he didn't even know. So it's like, dude, this can get real ugly for you. You're talking about snitching off billionaires, and I'm not trying to insinuate, but we're just being real and this is real life. Like, it's almost like what kind of dirt do you got on these guys?

Well, that's what I said. I would love to know what the dirt is. And thanks for the phone call Jay in Alabama. I would love to know what dirty has, because I think whatever information he has, unless if it's the most explosive stuff in the world, I think a lot of people would just rejoice if Dan Snyder lost the team and go, Okay, you have this information, you talk about it for 24, 48 hours, then you let the games go underway. Like if you're Snyder, you would have to wait until the offseason to release this.

Because once the games get underway, yeah, it's a story. Yeah, we would talk about it. But if it's not damaging, if it's not explosive information where your jaw is hitting the floor, you're probably going to move on rather quickly, like everything that the NFL survives. And yeah, there may be people that be irate about it. And I don't know what information he has, but I would call his bluff.

Because I do think there would be a large contingency of people who have been begging for years to get this guy to the NFL, that wouldn't care what information that he has, and would just say, Thank God this jackass is now finally out of the league. Let's go to David in Dallas next up on the Zach Gelb show. David, what do you got? Hey, so I was going in also about the the whole deal with Daniel Snyder. So Jerry Jones comes on, on our one of our local stations, you know, every Tuesday at 830.

Yeah, well, five, three, the fan, so he comes on, he comes on there every morning, every Tuesday at 830. So they waited until the very last of that show to lob that question at him as far as Daniel Snyder, were they going to take a vote on that today? Because, you know, there was one representative from each team meeting and yada yada. And Jerry's response to that was, I mean, just very matter of factly, he said that that is much more of a media thing than it is an internal thing and that they had no plans whatsoever about voting or discussing anything about getting rid of Dan Snyder.

Well, that's fine. And that's maybe the way that he wanted to sidestep it or thought that would be the way that it's playing out. But when Jim Irsay is at this media availability and is talking about Daniel Snyder, maybe they weren't going to talk about it. And Jim said, bleep this.

I want you guys to talk about it because I want the guy out of the NFL. And thanks to the phone call, David, I think that it's either two things. Yeah, maybe they weren't talking about it. And Jim goes, no, I want you to talk about it. But once Jim says what he says, it's unavoidable. And these owners only meetings, according to Florio, where it's only owners like haven't happened yet. So I would imagine, Ryan, it's either one of those two things that Jim wasn't happy that it wasn't discussed or maybe it was being discussed. Jerry said what he said. And Jim gets that sense that Daniel Snyder, not a popular person right now with NFL owners.

I would have to guess it's probably the latter, right? I don't maybe I'm wrong again because Jim Irsay just kind of whether it's videos after a loss or he just does just kind of talk, you know, and speak his mind. They have to talk about this. When an article comes out last week that one of the owners is reportedly hiring investigators, the Matterfi denies it to track the other 31 owners and the and the commissioner. And also there's stuff about Jerry Jones in here, maybe the biggest owner of them all.

But he's not going to touch that guy. I know the NFL loves to sweep things under the rug, but when it's about your own owners in a meeting for the owners, you can't sweep that under the rug. Which is why I'm with you. I think that's they've talked about it. And Jim Irsay, I think his comments come from the background of knowing he feels pretty good.

We'll say that if there is a vote, 24 would say you're out of here. I don't think he's just kind of lone wolf in this and throwing it out there when it hasn't been discussed or there's a strong sentiment to keep Dan Snyder around. And that's the other thing. What is the information that Dan Snyder has? And does he have enough information on owners that the owners that vote to keep him will make sure that the 24 isn't met? That's the big thing.

And I can't see when you have 30, it's 31 owners. Well, does Snyder get a vote? I don't know if Snyder gets a vote or not.

That'd be pretty weird. Hey, obviously he's going to vote yes. But you need 24 owners to say, kick him out.

And we don't want him to be there. And obviously, Snyder, if he did have a vote would say, yeah, we're not going to kick me out. Do you even have enough information? And is the information even damaging enough to break that threshold to make sure that it's not 24 that are voting against you? With Jim Mercy's words today, doesn't Dan Snyder soon have to release at least something?

Release the information. Yeah, pretty much. What else are you waiting for, right? This is kind of calling him on his bluff.

Yeah. And if this plays out during the season. We'll see if he has some real dirt or if it's just kind of, you know, puff pieces or just TMZ clickbait.

That's nothing real substantial. I suggested to call his bluff and I'm happy Jim Mercy basically did that today. When we come on back, the Seahawks.

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I'll quickly summarize what you missed. We know what happened last week. ESPN article comes out where the allegations are that Dan Snyder basically told the other NFL owners, if you kick me out of the league, I'm going to take you down with me.

I have private investigators following you. And also the commissioner, Roger Goodell. And I won't go down without a fight today. Jim Irsay, one of these owner meetings in New York, was talking to the media and said that he feels like that there is enough for Jim Irsay to potentially see the rest of the NFL owners kick out one Daniel Snyder from the NFL. And he also gave the quote of I think potentially there will be when asked if they could get 24 votes to oust one Daniel Snyder as an owner. He says, I believe there is merit to removing Dan Snyder as an owner. So we're all waiting and waiting and waiting for the commanders or Dan Snyder to fire back.

Here's what a commander spokesperson just released. It is highly inappropriate but not surprising that Mr. Irsay opted to make statements publicly based on falsehoods in the media. It is unfortunate that Mr. Irsay decided to go public with this statement today while an investigation is in process and the team has had no opportunity to formally respond to allegations.

The commanders have made remarkable progress over the past two years. We are confident that when he has an opportunity to see the actual evidence in this case, Mr. Irsay will conclude that there is no reason for the Sniders to consider selling the franchise and they won't. And they won't.

Just to reiterate how they ended that statement. So Daniel Snyder is basically saying, Jim, there's not going to be any evidence that goes against us. We're not selling the team.

Pretty much bleep you and it's not surprising that you elected to pop off to the media. Well, clearly Jim Irsay is pretty confident what's going to go down here and he thinks that there is something damaging. And maybe he's also annoyed that there was a threat through the media last week of Daniel Snyder tracking the other owners and having a private investigator not only track the other owners but the commissioner and Roger Goodell.

I don't know about you, Ryan. If you had to ask me to pick a side here, do I agree with the 31 other owners that, I'm not saying all of them, but maybe there's a majority feeling that Jim Irsay gathers that they want Dan Snyder out? Or am I going to believe that Dan Snyder is going to be proven to be doing the right thing when there was already a punishment and now this investigation keeps on going and I say punishment in loose terms? I gotta think that the other owners probably represent more on the side of Jim Irsay than, oh, Daniel Snyder really did nothing wrong here. And when the facts come out, you will see that Dan Snyder is an innocent man.

I agree. I don't think Jim Irsay is saying this without at least having pretty good support behind him that, again, if there has to be a vote or if there's a division for Dan Snyder against Dan Snyder, way more owners will be on his side against Dan Snyder wanting him to sell compared to those kind of pushing to keep him around still. Now Mike Florio brings up a good point here, and this is on Pro Football Talk, and this is Florio responding to the statement. The statement also glosses over the fact that the NFL imposed significant punishment on the commanders in July of 2021 based on facts from Beth Wilkinson's investigation that the league swept and kept under the rug. As 106.7, the fan in DC reported, and as Pro Football Talk confirmed, Wilkinson would have recommended in writing if asked for a written recommendation that Snyder should be required to sell the team. So there's already from this punishment that if Beth Wilkinson was asked to recommend in writing that if Snyder should sell the team that supposedly she would have said yes. If that was the feeling then, and then there's this other and this investigation that's ongoing, like, there's already guilt that is associated here.

So why do I think when more stuff comes out here that Dan Snyder is going to start to look like a good guy when he never looks like a good guy. That's what I'm hung up on. All you need to know is that that report was given verbally, not written. It was supposed to be a written report for one reason. They didn't want it getting out. They didn't want any written evidence of her findings because they knew if it became public, they just gave no choice but to force them to sell. That's why it was verbal. That's why we've never heard any findings in the investigation that the NFL did not want us to know.

And that is why, like I said, if there's a written report and she was asked should he sell the team, the answer would have been yes and we'd never really find that out. He's going to lose the team. He will lose the team.

The hole is getting deeper and deeper. Don't get me wrong. It is going to get ugly. And this is going to get contentious because Jim Mercy basically said you're going to lose the team today.

And Dan Snyder's like, oh no, I'm not. And you're going to be wrong for saying that. The commanders and the Colts do play one another at the end of the month. And that game is in Indianapolis. How many commanders fans who don't even go to their own team's home games because the stadium stinks and the team's a disgrace. How many commanders fans are going to fly to Indianapolis with number one commander's jerseys that I just saw online with the nameplate on the back of Ursa? How many fans are going to be doing that?

Because all commanders fans have been doing for years and deservedly so, down on one knee. Please, please, please sell the team, Dan. Dan, you've got to sell the team. You know what we may have to do with that game at halftime? Steal cage match.

Jim Mercy up against one Dan Snyder. That's what we may have to do, Hickey, at halftime of that game. But you could have a large contingency of commanders fans at the end of the month in Indianapolis. And we all thought that game was going to be about Carson Wentz. Now Carson Wentz isn't going to play. But you could have a large contingency of commanders fans giving Jim or say a standing ovation. Go figure. The man who saved the commanders could potentially be Jim or say man of the crazy man of the year right there.

It really is. And this may be the most positive thing that Jim or say is done in a long time and has nothing to do with his own football team. I'm sure the commanders would be like a team MVP at the end of the year. It should be the gym. Give him a game ball.

Maybe that's what you do. Give him a game ball into the game. Even if the commanders lose, you imagine Frank Frank in the locker room, walks in. Guys, I got to go to the commander's locker room real quickly.

Hey, commanders, we just want to give a game ball. We're going to bring our owner and Jim or say we're going to give him a game ball because he's going to get your owner out of the league. Ron Rivera is probably coming to the Colts locker room.

Ron Rivera. Jim, thank you. Is probably on the phone right now with Jim or saying goes, oh, you're my lord and savior. Thank you so much. You just saved me from so much heartache having to deal with this guy again. You might be crying if I'm around.

I'd be crying tears of joy. No, it hasn't happened yet. But this is the first time this week. In a breakdown last week over this article, because in the article, it also said that he didn't want Carson Wentz and that that was a Dan Slider move. Cut the press conference short. Yeah, he had enough fake outrage.

He can't stand Carson Wentz. That's clear. No matter what he says.

Anyway, do you agree with this statement right now? And we'll get into this more later on in the show, but we've been teasing it. But this whole Dan Snyder, Jim or say fight is just totally taken over the show. And understandably so. You were adamant, like a lot of people. When the Broncos got Russell Wilson, there's no way the Seahawks could have won the trade. I remember one take you had in particular where we had a conversation about this. Did the Seahawks even get enough for Russell Wilson?

And you said no at the time. Right now, would you agree with this statement that the Seahawks are winning the Russell Wilson trade right now? Gino Smith's playing better than Russell Wilson. Not only that, the Broncos just committed a big time contract to Russell Wilson and the Seahawks get a first round pick. They already have another first round pick and they use one in the last draft, but they have their own first round pick.

And then the Denver first round pick, which could be a top 10 pick and could make them draft their quarterback of the future for Seattle. Are you ready to go that the Seahawks right now are winning this Russell Wilson trade as the Broncos just totally look lost and Russell Wilson looks lost? I mean, yeah, right now through six games, I'm close. I mean, it's not even close. I mean, you said last week that the Broncos were going to make the playoffs.

So two months from now, it could change. Right now, it's slam dunk. You've been all over the place here. Are you on the record as the Broncos are going to miss the playoffs?

Are you still saying that, yeah, they could still get it together? Start with the Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. Yesterday was the breaking point about time yesterday. I've had enough.

You know what, Hickey? We need to get the music up. We need to end this segment right now because during the break, I need to run into your studio.

And I just need to give you a hug on the other side of the glass. Now to fire Nathaniel Hackett week eight. No, Russell Wilson.

I'm back. He's right now. He doesn't even look at one half of the field. His shoulders banged up, his hamstrings banged up. The guy was bad for the last year and a half. And we all we all looked right past it because we all blame Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll and John Schneider loved, love, love, love Russell Wilson.

And if they wanted to trade a quarterback like that, it made you basically understand from their side that they didn't think he was going to be that good that much longer. And Russ has become insufferable. You see that new subway commercial? Another one that came out.

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