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March 12, 2025 12:02 am

The Christian resistance is sounding the alarm on Ohio's constitutional amendment allowing borrowing and debt, while also exposing government corruption and mismanagement of taxpayer money, including the Intel corporation deal and the misuse of funds for personal gain and lavish spending.

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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left, the voice of the Christian resistance on this 11th day of March 2025. And tonight, boy, we have a whole lot going on. We have tonight my producer is none other. You know, producing this program makes his mother very happy and proud of him. Style. Hey, Pastor, how are you?

Okay. And here Britain Air Live right in the studio with me. The new president of Geode County Right to Life. And his mother's happy with him, too. She sure is.

Aaron Ganeas. Hello, Pastor and audience. Alright, and up there we have tonight my special guest.

He is Ohio's very own Elon Musk. I mean, tonight we're going to go do some dochin' of our own, right? We need it. Alright, we're going to do that. And that is Mr. Mark Pukita.

Hey, Mark. Oh, he hasn't called yet. Alright, he's supposed to be there. Alright. Well, we're going to start out.

Here's what we have to do. We have to start out with prayer tonight because right now we have a situation. Pastor Howe's daughter Linda is in the hospital.

We thought she was doing better, but she took a turn for the worse. She's got a very, very serious, very serious body infection, folks. And so you have all of these things that are going around. People are having, and I'm just finding out that it's possible you can have pneumonia and also COVID at the same time.

And there's a lot of things happening out here. I'm going to ask all of you folks out there, all of you out there, because she's very, very, very sick and Pastor Howe is beside himself. So that's his daughter. He's there with her at the hospital now.

And so you folks out there all across the country, wherever you're at, just join with me. Listen, remember this. Remember this. The Bible teaches there's power in prayer, and your prayers never go to waste. They're kept.

They're actually kept in heaven by God. So let's join with me in prayer as we hold her up for a healing. So Heavenly Father, Lord God, as we come before you, Lord, we don't know all the situation.

We don't have to. We know that you do. We know, Lord God, that Linda needs you. She needs you right now. She needs you to touch her. She needs you to give her a complete healing. Father God, and Lord, we ask, too, that as you heal her, you'll also be a comfort to Pastor, to her children, and also to Pastor Howe and her family there. So these things we ask, Lord, that you would touch her. Every area where she might receive a blessing, you know where those areas are, Lord. We always think we know what we need, but, Lord, you do know what we need. A lot of times what we ask for, what we want, is really not what we need, but you know what she needs. So that's what we're asking here tonight, that you might receive a complete and total healing.

And that you would turn her desires towards you more and more every day in every way in all things at all times. And we ask that, too, for every single person that's praying with us tonight. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.

Amen. All right. Is Mark joined with us yet?

I still don't have him yet. Okay. I left him the number.

Take me off the air for a second and I will give you that number. All right, go ahead. We're back right now. You probably, everybody out there, uh-oh, you got an echo. You hear the echo? I hear the echo.

You hear the echo? Okay, now. Now it's gone. It's gone.

Now it's gone. Yeah, I just thought of something probable. Everybody out there probably heard me give that number over Aaron's mic, right? No, I had you guys both up. Oh, yeah, it was both up? Okay, good. Yeah. All right, very good.

Okay, go ahead and you can make that call now. And now we're going to get into the Scripture. Are you ready to go to the Scripture?

Absolutely. Acts, remember what the title of the message was? The truth, the justification, crowns and rewards. So we pick it up and we're still in the truth.

We've been going through the truth here. And we're in Acts chapter 4 verses 5 through 12, so why don't you read me verses 5 through 12. And it came to pass on the morrow that the rulers and elders and scribes and Annas the high priest and Caiaphas and John and Alexander and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest were gathered together at Jerusalem. And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power or by what name have you done this? Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people and elders of Israel, if we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole, be it known unto you all and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at naught of you builders, which has become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given amongst men, whereby we must be saved.

Alrighty. Okay, so we're going back to, and it came to pass in the morrow that their rulers and the elders and their scribes, and Ananias the high priest, or Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, now Ananias, Caiaphas was Ananias' father-in-law. So they lived together. He was the high priest.

No. Ananias was Caiaphas' father-in-law. Yeah, right.

I got that just backwards. So here now, they've got John and Alexander standing before them, and now Peter, here in verse 8. Do we know who Alexander is? Yeah, he was with John.

Okay. And so here, Peter now is filled with the Holy Ghost. Peter's filled with the Holy Ghost, and he said unto him, You rulers of the people and the elders of Israel. Now, just days before that, okay, Peter denied the Lord Jesus, you know, three times. And so here now, but now all of a sudden Peter's bold as a lion. Well, what do you think it was that made Peter so bold? Well, seeing Jesus resurrected might have had an impact on him. That's what did it. That's what did it. Okay, so now Peter's bold. That's a command to all of us, be as bold as lions. Right.

Okay. So now, if we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he's made whole, what did they say about that? You know, what were they, their complaint was, you were healing on the Sabbath, right? And this was the, is this the beggar in front of the temple?

Yeah, he was an impotent man. He was the same beggar from the Gospels, right? I'm not quite sure if it's the same beggar, but anyhow, if we this day, examined of the good deed done by the impotent man, to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole, be it known unto all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, here you go, Peter nails him, boy, he nails him. Whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

This is the stone which was set at naught of the builders, which has become the head of the corner. Do you know what that, what Peter just said there? That Jesus Christ is the, this is speaking in terms of, we are living stones that were born again, and he is the chief cornerstone of a building.

When you build, you have a cornerstone. Who was it that said this before Peter said it? Jesus. He was quoting Psalms 118, 118 Psalm, verse 22. And so this is, this. This goes back to David.

Right. And so, Jesus had quoted David, and actually, David got that originally really from Jesus. And then, and now Peter here is quoting Jesus, the same thing he said. So now he says, neither is there salvation in any other.

Okay now, that statement, neither is there salvation in any other. Who would be offended by that? The Jews. Who else? The high priest.

Who else? The Romans. The Muslims. The Hindus. Yeah.

And the Democrats. Yeah. Yeah, they would be offended because a lot of them, they believe that they're gods themselves. Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved. And so we went through that last night. Those people out there who remember professed that they were the source of their own salvation.

Okay. Obama, Oprah, Joe Olsteen, George Soros, and others. Well, Joe Olsteen didn't say he was the source of his own salvation. He said if your God's a good God.

But who was it that Joe Olsteen offended? Because see, Joe Olsteen said you must be born again to be saved, and you must believe in Jesus. Okay, and Larry King says, you mean to tell me that you believe that us Jews and Muslims, we can't be saved unless we become Christians, unless we become born again? And Joe Olsteen said, well, see Larry, I guess if your God's a good God, okay. He said that on air? Yeah. I heard him. I heard him say it.

So what, he didn't even stand on the word of God? No. On the get-go?

No. It hit the offering plate. When it hit the offering plate, he came back. He had to go back on Larry. He said, Larry, you've got to let me back on. I've got to undo that.

I've got to walk that one back. And so what he did is he said... I don't listen to him. I haven't listened to Joel Osteen for like over a decade. Well, I pick up the news articles that come up on him. Was he ever biblically sound?

No. His father was. His father was, you know, he preached the gospel pretty much, yeah.

But now Joe's got a son out there that's following in the same tracks as Joe. No, we've got to send Joel prayer requests about Acts 4-12. Okay. All right, let's go to Acts 13.

Now we're going to be justification. Stile, any luck? What's going on here? I've called a few times. I keep getting a busy signal on his end, though. He was...

I just talked to him just prior to going on the radio, and he's got to have the phone number. Let me see. While you are reading, I might...

Which Acts chapter 14? Okay, here, he just sent me a message. Okay, let me see. Okay. Okay, take me up there for a minute.

Okay. No sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no bucks to eat. All right, the devil's in the details tonight, folks.

They're messing with our phone lines again, messing with our guests trying to get in. But anyhow, he should be, hopefully, we should be having Mark Paquita here with us any minute now. Yep, we got him right now. Okay, are you there, Mark? I am.

Good. Now, we're in the scripture, and I introduced you tonight as Ohio's very own Elon Musk. Let folks know we're going to go do some dojin' here in Ohio, and so, anyhow, right now, though, we're going to go right back to the scripture. We're talking about justification here tonight in the scripture, so we're in Acts chapter 13, starting with verse 37 through 39. Right?

Yep, I heard about the head of the corner. All right. One of my favorite verses. Okay, go ahead, Aaron, and read. Acts 13? Acts 13, 37 through 39. But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption, but it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins, and by him all that believe, are justified from all things, from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. Beware, therefore, lest that come upon you which is spoken of in the prophets. Behold, you despisers, and wonder and perish, for I will work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declared unto you.

Okay, very good. So now here, the body of Jesus, what does he think he said? He said when he, whom God raised, and saw no corruption.

What do you think he meant by when he said saw no corruption? Well, first of all, you've got a kind of a controversy here, because here, Jesus, the Bible, the scripture said Christ raised himself from the dead. He raised himself from the dead. But here it says he that God raised. So how does that come together? Well, when you take all the scriptures together, isn't it God the Father raised the Lord Jesus from the grave by the power of the Holy Spirit?

Not actually. Remember how it works? You have the chain of command.

Right. God the Father gives the marching orders, God the Son carries them out, and the Holy Ghost always provides the power from everything from Genesis to Revelation. So God the Father raised him by giving him the orders to raise yourself, arise now, okay?

And that's exactly what he did. The Holy Spirit, right? Because Ephesians chapter 1 says that. No, the Holy Spirit provides the power for the resurrection.

But Christ himself raised himself from the dead. And so here now, we go, so now he says this, that we are justified by our belief in Christ. We're justified by our belief in Christ. The law of Moses could only condemn us, right? So why are we justified only in Christ under the spirit of the law? Why could not we be justified under the letter of the law, the law of Moses? Why could that not justify us?

Because I'm a sinner and the rest of the human race is sinners. You can't keep the law, not just the dos and don'ts, but the perfect law of God's absolute perfection, thought, mind, emotion. Only one man who ever walked the earth ever kept, he completely fulfilled the law.

That was Christ himself, right? Amen. But why is it, what is wrong with the law that it can only condemn us? OK. It can't justify us. Right, it can't because the law is perfect and we're not.

Right. OK, in order, in these fleshly bodies with human fathers we could not be justified, could we? The wages of sin is death and that's why we all die. Right, so here, turn over to Romans chapter 5.

And Mark, if you have a question or a comment, just jump right in here. Romans chapter 5. I was just going to suggest that, and I think you're on a different topic, but the laws of men are trumped by the laws of God. Oh, absolutely, yep. Romans 5 verses 1 and 2. Go ahead, Aaron. Romans 5.

Yep. Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. OK, so now, therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God.

So now, read verse 9. Much more than being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. So we're justified by our faith, we're justified by His blood, OK? We're justified freely by His grace, if you read in verse 3, 3. 24, if you read verse 24, but here, there's something else going on there, too. We're justified by works. We're justified by works in James 2.

21, in relation to men. Faith without works is what? Dead.

Dead being alone. Because faith always produces action. Well, works are evidence of faith without, you know, it's like tracks in the snow, you know.

If you go outside after a snowfall and you see a man's tracks, you know, a man's been there, right? OK. And that's the same thing that faith without works is dead, being alone. And from there, let's go over to 1 Corinthians chapter 9. 1 Corinthians chapter 9. Now, we're going to be into rewards now.

We're moving into rewards. So, Pastor, don't you think it's important, though, to emphasize what you just said? Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. So, what justifies us as far as in terms of righteousness? Because our sin, we know, is the blood of Christ. Because this is a question that I've been asked when I give out tracts. Many people don't know the answer to this simple question, God forbid if you were to die right now, are you sure you'd go to heaven?

Well, what justifies us by righteousness, we would go back to where we were. I'm looking for that particular verse, but right now I'm going to move on because you're stalling me up. I'm just moving all the way over to 1 Corinthians.

We'll go back to that later. 1 Corinthians 9 and 1 Corinthians 9 verses 25-27. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown, but we an incorruptible crown. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly so to fight.

I not as one that breathed air, but keep under my body, and bring into subjection, lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be cast away. We're going to stop right there because we're up against a break, so I'll pick it up right there tomorrow. And this is rewards.

Now we're going to pick it up with rewards tomorrow. So, we'll be back right after this. I had this crazy dream about some folks who love this country, who all began to dream the same dream. And when the morning came, there arose across this nation people thinking one and the same. And they awoke to find their freedoms, and all their liberties had gradually been taken away. And when they realized the danger to their posterity, I heard those patriotic people say, We want this country back.

We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty, and our dignity, and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.

She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now, and we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. In those amber golden days, when the stars and stripes forever symbolized her glorious name, America.

But now it's all been changed, and when we gaze upon her glory, it's hard to fight back feelings of shame. We're wrapped with lying politicians and greedy corporations who have sold us out time and again. And we're sick and tired of sending our soldiers off to wars that we were never meant to win. We want this country back.

We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty, and our dignity, and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.

She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now, and we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Now we know our cause is right, and our victory's on the way, and we won't give up the fight till we hear 200 million say. We want this country back.

We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty, and our dignity, and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back, and we ain't taking any more back. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now, and we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore.

That's right. We're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore.

That's right. We're not gonna take it anymore. No, we're not going to take it anymore. We're going to doge you Democrats.

That's what we're going to do, because we've got our own Elon Musk. Mark Paquita is here from Grassroots Freedom Initiative. And boy, Mark, they've got some more crooked schemes coming up in the ballot on May, don't they? They do.

They do, Pastor. And it's a crooked scheme that's been going on for decades. And I think it's time for us to doge Ohio and stop this. It's a $2.5 billion, right, with a B, billion dollar bond issue that is on the May primary ballot. And it's intentionally on that ballot because the May primary this year has no governor race on it, no presidential race. It's like almost unknown, right?

It's a... So the average person is not going to go out and vote. They're going to say this is right and they don't know. Let me ask you this. Anywhere in the Beatitudes does it say blessed are the stupid?

Because I haven't seen that. It says blessed are the meek. They shall inherit the earth. I mean, blessed are the stupid. No, that's hilarious, Pastor. I love that. Well, we've got to quit acting that way.

And so tell the folks about what they're up to now. So it's a $2.5 billion bond issue. And the interesting thing is it's only allowed to be drawn by if this passes. And it's a constitutional amendment, which is bizarre, because we have in our constitution the requirement for a balanced budget.

So you have to go against, you have to modify the constitution to be able to borrow money, go into debt. How can they do that? Not legally. Vote for it. It happens, right?

It'll be on the ballot. And what I like to call sleeping pilgrims, you know, people's pilgrims just to sleep, everything's good. And then they get attacked.

Slaving pilgrims are okay with it. And we have been for decades. And this has been a thing that's gone on for decades. It's like, you know, it's a billion, it's a billion and a half, it's 2 billion. Now it's 2 billion five. And it's, but, but you can only use a tenth of that $250 million a year. Now, $250 million on a, like a let's just call it round numbers, $100 billion budget is rounding error. So, so why are we doing this with bonds?

Why don't we just do it if we're, if we've got, you know, roads to fix or bridges to fix or underpasses to fix or whatever, why don't we do that with just money along the way? Because $250,000 out of a hundred billion is again, rounding error. And the only reason I can, the only thing I can come up with is that someone in the, in the government has committed to the people who issue these bonds, whether it's Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan Chase, you name it, that's committed to them that they're going to have this business forever.

And fees on a $2.5 billion bond issue are, that's real money. And so I just, I'm confused and I can't get answers from legislators. Like they all voted for it. It was almost a unanimous vote with this on the ballot in May, yet nothing was said about it.

It was the most stealth thing that I've seen in a long time. And, and so I'm just asking questions like you might be asking questions and we can't get any answers. Um, so Mark, what is approximately, what is our, go ahead.

I'm sorry. What is our yearly budget approximately? Well, it's been 85, 90 billion, but I think Mike DeWine is asking for over a hundred billion dollars a year in this budget that will be approved by this general assembly sometime in the next few months.

Okay. And I've got to add that that budget is about the same as Florida's and they have twice as many people with us and that our budget is double that of Georgia and Georgia has about the same number of people as we do. We are, our budget is absolutely off the chart out of control. Well, and have, when you say it's against the constitution or it's unconstitutional to put us in debt, what was the terminology you use with that? So this is, so this is an issue on the ballot. Like issue one last year that gave us abortion on Ohio, it will change the constitutional amendment, change the constitution in terms of being able to borrow. So this is a ballot issue for a constitutional amendment to modify the constitution, to allow for borrowing, to allow for debt. And it's currently unconstitutional to, to allow borrowing.

I'm sorry. It's unconstitutional to allow borrowing, allow debt. No, I wasn't talking about the constitutional amendment part. You said something about the constitution. It's unconstitutional to the constitution in Ohio. We had an amendment years ago, I think it was the seventies that said we must have a balanced budget. So the reason this is going to the ballot is, uh, you kick the legislature couldn't pass a bill to do this because the constitution would trump a law, a higher revised code.

So it's got to be a constitutional amendment to allow for this borrowing. I see what they did before that issue. One is they, they worded it in such a way that people were absolutely confused. We tried to explain that to people. Uh, and I, and as did we, uh, and so pastor this, the big problem started with the first issue one last year.

Yeah. And that was the issue to take the threshold for making a constitutional amendment, stick at the ballot box and initiative, take it from 50% of the vote, 60% of the vote. This was 2023. This was 2024. No, that was 2023 was issue one in August. Then issue one with abortion enshrining abortion in our constitution was 2023. Yeah.

Cause issue one last year was the gerrymandering. Yes, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Erin, this makes me feel old because I get old and I I'm thinking years they go by so fast. Yes, you're correct. So so we had good people on our side who didn't understand that issue one, the first issue one in 2023 would impact the second issue one.

We needed that August. Yeah. Yeah. So, so it was like, okay, I don't want to give up my rights, which right now I can change the constitution with a 50% vote, but yeah, so can your opponents on an issue. And we were concerned about the abortion vote and, and we lost issue one and we lost issue one, issue one and issue one. Let me tell you how, how that affected me.

Okay. I, uh, I've fought my whole life to pass these laws pro-life legislation. You know, I was back on, on the partial birth abortion. I was part of that introducing that legislation going all the way back to right. I worked on the heartbeat pill. We worked for 50 years passing pro-life legislation and because of ignorance and people who thought that they were doing the right thing, voted, uh, voted the opposite of what they believe they were doing.

And so, yeah, I mean some of those things like, uh, so I remember going as an IBM sales person with one of my clients to an event out, I remember it was in Phoenix and this guy who was a professor at the university there, he was a business professor and he said, just remember a fool with a tool is still a fool. And we, we, we have people who don't understand the constitution, don't understand how government works and they buy into the rhetoric and sometimes it comes from the far right, not the left. And they're like, Oh, we don't want to give up our race. We have a 50% threshold now not thinking about the fact that the opponent wants, right, wants to keep that 50% threshold so they can do what they did in the next election, the next election, that next issue on abortion. So, and you in, in some of these people are so, uh, stuck in their position about this.

Well, a lot of, a lot of what happened there though, Mark, the money behind that, there was millions and millions and millions of out of state money coming into Ohio, uh, and behind that. Okay. And so people don't realize that. Yeah.

No question about that. But, but in our movement, we kind of shot ourselves in the foot and I, I bring it up not to chastise people, but to have people remember that as we move into May because, uh, they might say, well, this is for infrastructure and we need infrastructure because infrastructure will bring business and all the rest. Look at what's happening with Intel right now. Jobs, Ohio, and, and the governor touted this Intel thing and it just keeps getting put off and put off and put off.

This may never happen. And we have, we will have no ideas. There will be no accounting of how much money has been given to Intel with nothing that for Ohio and, and, and these are the kind of missteps that I think we need to try to avoid by educating people in Ohio about what's going on because you educate us about Intel. So yeah, I, I can't, I'm not an expert on Intel, but the Ohio gave money and tax abatements and things like that to Intel to come into Lincoln County here outside of Columbus to, to build plants and become, you know, that was going to be, this was going to be Ohio Silicon Valley, right? Because Intel builds chips or produces chips semiconductor chip. And, and so it was going to be like, Oh my gosh, we're going to move from being this agricultural industrial kind of place to high tech, right?

Which has a lot of appeal to voters, which is why I believe it was so sought after by the politician. And uh, I want to say that we committed like 3 billion or $4 billion to Intel just to pick us rather than another state. And they've started construction on plants that would fabrication plants that would make chips, but there's been delays and delays and delays and there's more delays now. And it also looks like Intel might be on the skids in terms of their financials and right to be acquired by someone else. And this deal that the Ohio, you know, government cut with Intel might go down the tube and it gets back to things like if you remember Solyndra during the Obama administration, we, our money should not be used at the craps table to pick and choose winners and losers in business to come to Ohio.

This is just ridiculous. These people have no skill in picking these winners and losers. They have no, no, no experience in the private sector, no experience in investment banking for the most part. And as far as with, as far as with Intel, they're an established company in tech.

What's, why, why did this not happen? Well, they, Aaron, that's a great question, but like any other company, they've fallen behind in terms of their technology. I don't have the whole story, but they have gotten their ability to design new chips, which is where the, I think the real money is, has been outpaced by people like Broadcom and Nvidia and Nvidia has designed these chips for, uh, artificial intelligence, right?

And so, uh, think about it this way. You've got someone who has a patent on a new product and they're going to shop it to people who will produce it for them at the lowest possible price. Nvidia and Broadcom are the people doing the design of that product. And now Intel has been relegated to the company that is going to produce that product at the lowest price. But not only do they go to Intel, but they go to the Taiwan, the Taiwanese producers of chips, which is where most of the chips are produced or elsewhere. And so there's an intellectual component and there's a manufacturing component and it now appears that Intel isn't great at either of those.

And, uh, we could be stuck holding the bag. My question would be how much money have we already given in taxpayer money from Ohio to Intel to relocate here and what have we gotten for it? It looks like what we've gotten for it so far is a bunch of, of construction jobs on a site that looks like one of those sites where you go to a new subdivision and everything is kind of like plumbed in, you know, you can see the pipes sticking up, but that's it. Wow.

I don't think there are any further than that. And if we've spent three or $4 billion of taxpayer money for that, then we've gotten hoodwink. Well, this is, this is why we need that Doge of Ohio, uh, because of, you know, all of the, the corruption. It was, you know, Harry Truman said that whenever a politician gets into office and gets rich in office, you can bet that politicians are crook. When, when Bill Clinton, you know, went into office, when he went, when he got into his first office, became a governor, he, his worth was 1.5 million. It was worth 1.5 million.

Today, Bill Clinton is worth 241.5 million, 241 million. Okay. Uh, now how do you think that all happened there? And we see this and we just sit out on a list, all of these things that these people come up with. And just like this here in Ohio, no WACA, you know, you know, you talk about a bunch of crooks and that's what you have. And this whole, it's a scam. These people are bureaucrats. Uh, they're like, uh, like Ohio's deep state, aren't they?

Yeah. Now WACA has figured out how to get money. This is a group of people who have figured out how to get money and pay it to people who will then launder it back to them. And taxpayers get absolutely nothing in return.

We were talking about that this morning on a call. What has no WACA accomplished? What have they done?

It's all talk, no production. It's a, in my opinion, it's just a scam. It's a money laundering operation.

It's ridiculous. But you know, they're so, so crooked. You know, they had, they came in, they had a meeting there a couple of years ago in Middlefield and uh, you know, they, and the place, the place was filled, but I can only identify two people that were there, uh, and this, you know, was done by video. They had, they put on this big video presentation, but the place was packed, but I can only tell two people that were there were there to support no WACA.

Everybody else that showed up was there to protest no WACA, but didn't they, the way they spun that was in their meeting, the great meeting they had there in Middlefield, we had a large number of people came out and so everyone that came, they, they listed us as supporters of no WACA, you know, and that's what they put out in the media. You're right. This is, this is Ohio's deep state, but people don't, don't really, you know, again, my people Hosea four, six, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. And there you go. That's it right there that I cannot think of a better Old Testament passage than that.

That is exactly where we are because when you wake people up and educate them, their, their eyes are open. Like I could imagine people at the tomb when Bryce was not there, like, Holy cow, what happened? And then encountering him on the path into town or wherever, right?

We don't really know how that went, like in terms of the actual location and things, but on the road to a mass, right? Like, Holy smokes, this is the Lord Jesus Christ. I can't believe it.

I, I, I had faith, but then I was con then I was questioning, but now I don't have to question anymore. Uh, we need to question these people because they are, there is a level of evil here and a level of, um, let me call it willingness to inflict pain on others. That is mind boggling to me because no act is wasting this money that comes for you and I, but more importantly, it comes from people who can't afford, I can afford it. I don't like it, but I can afford it.

There are people who can't afford it, who are being put into situations that are not good for them and their family health wise, education wise. Uh, well, and the whack is it that just, you know, it's like Ohio's version of agenda 2030. Yeah.

Yeah. Because if you go to their website and we did a video, we did a video on it. You'll see things like diversity, equity, inclusion.

You'll see things like climate, you know, change and reduction of emissions and things like that. The, the, the idea of these MPOs was to figure out how to spend the money to build highways, period, full stop. And it, it has been more into like everything else in government that we're seeing in DC, but this is a spinoff of that and I'm not sure the DOJ people and Elon Musk are focusing on it there, but this is a spinoff of like us aid and others where government money, taxpayer money, right? It's not government money.

It's our money because government doesn't generate any money unless they print it, which is an abomination. Well, they're like blood suckers. Like they're, they're sucking the life out of people, especially, you know, you have a lot of elderly people that have, that have worked their whole life.

They've paid off the mortgage on their homes and they lose their homes because they can't pay property tax, property taxes, and their property taxes. You're going to these people in a whack as they're going to a bunch of conferences in a Y or somewhere doing nothing and the roads aren't getting fixed either. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Ohio money's going to Hawaii. Well, he's making a point. These people are, they're, they're skimming the money off the top and they're going, you know, they had these junkets and all of that. It's like, you know what they do. Yeah, yeah. So we're coming up to a break and when we come back from the break we'll pick it up right there because there's so much out there that is happening in Ohio.

But again, Ezekiel chapter 3 and Ezekiel chapter 33 talk about the watchman on the wall. We're to expose this stuff. We're to tell people about this. We'll be back right after this with a whole lot more.

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