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This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this 7th day of March 2025. And tonight our producer is the mighty Seth. Good evening. Good evening. There you go.
He's supposed to roar somewhere. Alrighty, there you go. Alright, and live here in the studio, we have the elder Barclay.
Good evening. Our God reigns. Alright, amen. Now, she does more than she should be able to do. She has been sold out and with her health conditions, COPD, she should not be able to do all that she does, but she does. She's got crowns waiting for her in heaven, okay?
A lot of them, okay? So, you heard the cackle that belongs to none other than Linda Lisa. Good evening, everyone. Way out yonder. Way out yonder. Way out yonder.
We're in the land of Texas where the Longhorns roam. We have none other than big John McTernan. Hello, Pastor Ernie, and as usual, God bless you and all our listeners, and may we have a wonderful show full of truth. Alright, very, very good.
And I'm going to tell you how we got to start. Yesterday, we had an emergency. I got a call early, and do you remember Ron Ritz?
He used to join us on Friday nights? Well, as a co-host, Ron had to go in for emergency surgery yesterday, and we thought everything came out alright. He had surgery on his colon, and so, but it didn't. Things took a turn for the worse, and he had to go back in for more surgery today.
And I haven't heard recently how he's doing, but it wasn't good. And so, John, would you pray for Ron? Would you pray for a healing in the Lord's blessing for Ron? Yeah, Lord, we have Brother Ron before you in the name of Jesus, and Lord, there was a medical emergency we don't know the full details on, but he does need, in his colon, Lord, he does need a move of the Holy Spirit, Lord. So, that's what we're asking for.
We're asking for that whatever we've done will be successful. He would recover, Lord. He would be back on his feet, and he would be used for you to bring glory to your name. Now, in Jesus' name, we ask this. Amen. Amen.
Thank you. The title of the message was, Will We Know Each Other in Heaven? and Will We Have Pets in Heaven?
Will Our Pets Be in Heaven? So, today we're going to pick it up where we left off in 1 Thessalonians, chapter 4, because the Bible doesn't say directly, yes, you will know each other in heaven in those exact words, but it does make it imply pretty clearly that we will, and in a lot of different ways. And so, we're going to pick it up in 1 Thessalonians, chapter 4, starting with verse 13, and John, would you read verses 13 through 18? I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. And this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent or go before them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first, that we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Wherefore comfort one another, these words. So right off the bat, what would you say is an indication that he, well obviously we see that he's not speaking to individuals, but he's speaking to the church as a group, and he's starting by referring to the Old Testament saints first, okay, and then those, you know, that are asleep, and he's not talking about soul sleep here, is he? He's talking about as the Lord comes back, he's coming back from heaven, and people get this confused, wait a minute, I don't understand. He said that when you're dead, you're sleeping.
Well we are triune beings, aren't we? That means we have a body, soul, and a spirit, so when we die, our soul and spirit go home to be with the Lord right away, don't they? The Bible says absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. So our body drops, it goes back to the dust, and then we go, our spirit and soul, go to be with the Lord in heaven. So now the Lord Jesus is returning, and now this is not the second coming. He doesn't return back to the earth, he returns back to the first heaven, doesn't he?
And then we are with him, we come as a cloud, he's referring to a cloud, that's us. And then our bodies in the dust are resurrected, first the Old Testament saints, and then the ones that are, those that are asleep in him, and then those that are alive and left alive, they'll be caught up together, won't they? Yes, there's a resurrection of those that the Lord's bringing back with him, they have a resurrected body, and then we that are alive, we're transformed. It's not a resurrection, it's a transformation from a body of sin to a body like Jesus Christ. So it's like a transfiguration, in other words, we now we get our glorified bodies, so the bodies would be like Christ, right?
Yes, exactly. Okay, so now here he says in verse 16, for the Lord himself shall be sent from heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the archangel, and with its trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain, here's the key verses, right? We'll be caught up together, we'll be caught up together, right? So when that rapture takes place, if we're in the same room together, or if we're, no matter where we're at together, when that takes place, we're going to be caught up together, aren't we?
Yes, in the air. So if we got, if it took place right now while we're here in the studio, when we got to heaven, we would still know each other, wouldn't we? Well, that's what it looked like, Pastor Ernie, and the object here, Paul is answering the question about what happens to them that die in the Lord before he returns. So they're interested in their family and friends and all of that, and the Lord is saying that he's going to come with them, and they're going to be, receive a resurrected body, and will be transformed, which all gives the indication, you know, we're going to know each other. Oh, absolutely. Let's go over to 2 Corinthians chapter 4, and, and, Randolph, you would read 2 Corinthians chapter 4 verses 14 and 15.
Okay, 14. Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus and shall present us with you, for all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God. Okay, so here you got kind of a question, you got a mystery, right? Because scripture says that the Lord Jesus raised himself from the dead, he rose, but here it says, here it says, knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise of us also in Jesus, and present us with you. So then, who was it to raise up Jesus? Well, the Trinity did. You would be right, because in that you had the pecking order, if you will, and that was the Father, God the Father gives the marching orders, God the Son always carries him out, and the Holy Ghost always provides the power, huh? From Genesis to Revelation. Yes, that's the God. So then, God raised up the Father the Son by giving the order, arise, okay?
And the Son raised up himself by carrying out the order, didn't he? Silence. Well, I thought you made a statement. All right, there you go. So, for all things are for your sakes that abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many rebound to the glory of God.
Amen. Let's go over to Matthew chapter 17, and in Matthew chapter 17, verses one through eight. Matthew chapter 17, okay, verses one through eight.
Go ahead. And after six days, Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John, his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart, and was transfigured before them. And his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Then answered Peter and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here. If thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice came out of the cloud, which said, this is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased.
Hear ye him. And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were so afraid. And Jesus came and touched them, and said, arise, and be not afraid. And when he had lifted up their eyes, and when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man save Jesus only. Okay, so now they had never seen, the disciples had never met Moses or Elijah, so how did they know them?
That's a good point. How did they know them by just seeing them? Well, they were knowing because they were given that knowledge, okay, now they did have knowledge of the Old Testament, and now here, so now here, there was an interesting thing, because this is the third time in the scripture where the father says, this is my son. He's making a point that to Peter, you guys messed up.
You don't put my son on the same level with the prophets. You don't do that, okay. This is not about them, do you understand? Okay, and so Peter figured it out pretty quick, didn't he? Yeah.
Yes. When he fell on his face, because he was so afraid. Now here though, when you take a look at that, it's an interesting thing. He says, of course, when they lifted up their eyes, they saw no man but Jesus only. He goes on, and as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them saying, tell a vision to no man until the son of man be risen again from the dead.
Now, here again, so it's an interesting thing that he allowed them to see this, and somehow they knew that this was Moses, somehow they knew that this was Elijah. Now I want you to go over to 2 Samuel chapter 12, and 2 Samuel chapter 12, verses 15 through 23. And Nathan departed unto his house, and the Lord struck the child that Uriah's wife had barren to David, and it was very sick. And David therefore besought God for the child, and David fasted and went in and lay all night upon the earth. And the elders of his house arose and went to him to raise him up from the earth, but he would not.
Neither did he eat bread or he bed with him. And it came to pass on the seventh day that the child died, and the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead, for they said, behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him and he would not hearken unto our voice. How will he then vex himself if we tell him the child is dead? But when David saw the servants whispering, David perceived that the child was dead. Therefore, David said unto his servant, Is the child dead?
And they said, He is dead. And then David arose from the earth and washed and anointed himself and changed his apparel, and came to the house of the Lord and worshiped. Then he came to his own house, and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat. Then said his servants unto him, Wilt, what thing is this that thou hast done? Thou didst fast and weave for the child while it was alive. But when the child was dead, thou didst raise and eat bread. And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, Who can tell whether God will be gracious to me that the child may live? But now he is dead.
Wherefore, should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him. I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
Now, a couple things. Why did the Lord take the child? Well, because that was an illegal situation right there with David and Bathsheba. Well, David had committed murder. He had had Uri murdered, right? Right.
And taken Bathsheba. Yeah. Yeah.
Now, wait a minute. Bathsheba wasn't quite innocent in all this. No, they were both complicit.
When Bathsheba went out on the rooftop debate, did she know that David could see her, if she could see him, that he could see her? Yes. And so she knew exactly what she was doing, didn't she? I believe so. But I don't believe she wanted, now when David ordered Uri to go home and lay with his wife, because David knew he was trying to cover up when he found out she was pregnant, huh? Right.
But here, you know, be sure your sins will find you out. Yes. And so what happened when David, when Uri refused to go in and sleep with his wife, then David had to do something now. And so he had him killed, didn't he? And well, Nathan had told David, hey David, told him a story about this rich man who had many, many sheep, and he had a feast. But instead of using his own sheep, he went to the neighbor that only had one and took his only one.
What do you think he was saying there? David had a lot of wives, didn't he? Yeah.
Okay. And so he was making a point with David that you had a lot of wives, but then David, you went and took Uri's only wife. Now, so why would he take the child, okay? Do you think God knew beforehand that this was going to happen? Oh yeah.
And so now the taking of the child, okay, that sent a pretty strong message to David and Bathsheba Boal, didn't it? Yeah. Now here comes the questions and maybe, maybe only me turning nose, because he knows a lot of stuff that we don't know. I'm ready, Pastor. I'm ready.
No. So there's, there's a theory, a common theory, we've been there for years from the theologians that when we appear, because the Bible says, when we appear over and over, we will be like him. We will be like him. We will be like him. Now, when Jesus died or went back to heaven, when he left and went back to heaven and his resurrected body, he was 33 years of age. So a lot of theologians believe that we're all going to be up here, all the adults at the age of 33, you know, because we will be like him in our glorified bodies. Now the glorified bodies will look a lot better than the bodies we have now. I mean, boy, I wouldn't want to spend all of eternity looking the way I do now at my age. Right? You look good, Pastor.
Yes, you do. John, we got to get a better deal, right? I mean, we don't want to spend all of eternity looking this way.
I mean, I don't even want to spend next week looking this way. But so we're going to have a glorified body and I believe, I kind of hold to that. I kind of think that that's exactly what that means that we're going to be.
But now, John, here's the question. What about all the babies that have died? Now, are they going to continue to grow?
We know there'll be children in heaven because God loves children, right? But are they going to continue to grow? And if they do, since there'll be no time left in heaven, there'll be no time. Time stops. We enter into eternity. So now, are they going to grow at the rate like they do today?
Are they going to grow one day with a thousand years and one thousand years one day with God? So you might be the only one that knows the answer, John. Tell us. Well, you ask heavy theological questions, Pastor. Well, I'm a heavy theological pastor.
This is, you know, PhD level. My opinion is that we're all like mature in heaven. I don't think there's any growing. That's my opinion that we're all like 30-ish in heaven. Okay, well, yeah, I can see that.
That's basically what I was thinking. But we know that there'll be children in heaven. Are they going to stay children forever? No. No, I don't think so, Pastor. So then that's the question. I guess probably, unless Seth can tell us, we're going to have to wait till we get to heaven to figure it, to find out, huh? Well, I know one scripture, Pastor, says that, but as it is written, I have not seen nor ear heard, neither have it entered into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. And I believe that there's a portion of that that is just reserve. When we get over on that other side, we'll understand those things.
Yeah, this is going to be interesting. Now, let me go back to that last verse. But now he is dead.
Wherefore should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him. So David is saying very clearly that he's going to be with his son.
He's going to be with his son. So he knows that. God's let him know that, huh? Yeah, yeah. But he shall not return to me. So David knows what we know.
I have a son in heaven and I will go to him. Yeah, yeah. But we're going to have to wait and find out.
Like you said, I've had some dreams, but these were just dreams. But anyhow. Also, Pastor, on your question there, where we know our loved ones, this also reminds me of the story of Lazarus and the rich man.
And we know that when the rich man died, we know, of course, he was in torments in hell. We did that one yesterday. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Yeah. But he recognized Lazarus. Lazarus.
And we talked about that. That's one of the parable. That's a true parable. We know that because it's the only parable in the Bible where names are mentioned, where they're called by names. All the rest, they would just refer to a rich man or they refer to this man or a servant, okay, or the Lord of the vineyard.
But in that one, and then of course there was another Lazarus too that was raised from the dead. So there you go. Now we've got to find out this. What about animals? Will there be animals in heaven?
People ask me all the time, will we know our past? Somebody turn to Isaiah chapter 11. In Isaiah chapter 11, read me verses 6 through 9. The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb and the leopard shall lie down with the kid and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together and the little child shall lead them and the cow and the bear shall feed. Their young ones shall lie down together and the lion shall eat straw like an ox and the sucking child shall play on the whole of an asp and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy and all my holy mountain for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover. Okay, so now has this ever happened in the past where the bear and the lions and the wolves would eat straw like an ox? Has that ever happened in the past? I think so, didn't it? Right after the creation at the beginning?
Before the flood. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. So we're going back. Now he's speaking here in the Millennial Kingdom. We'll have to return to this because again, like I said, he knows things that nobody else knows.
In fact, it's been said that it's been said that McKernan knows things that McKernan don't know. And so, but anyhow, so now I lost my train of thought on that one. There you go.
It's a real obvious simple one. When Christ returns, what is he returning of? When he returns, what is he returning of? On. Well, you see, yeah, well, that's where we're going next to Revelation chapter 19. But before we go there, we have to discuss this because this is during the Millennial Kingdom. This is during the Millennial Kingdom.
Okay. But now let me ask you a question because the Bible talks about God's creation that God had created and the creation is complete. But is there anywhere in scripture where it refers to God as uncreating? Did God ever uncreate?
Gee, that's interesting. How can uncreate? I don't think so, Pastor.
You're right, there isn't. There's no place in where he says he uncreates. So if he doesn't uncreate and we have all of these animals, we're still going to have all these animals, aren't we? That's right.
All righty. John, what you were talking about is Revelation 19 because what we're going to do is we see the Lord starting with verse 11 and four categories of saints. The Lord is getting ready to return back to earth, isn't he? And he's got four categories of saints with him. And I always ask people, who knows what those four categories of saints are?
Who could tell me? Well, his bride, us. Well, now let's start. The first category in the Old Testament is angels. He's referring to angels as saints. And then you had the Old Testament saints, you had the New Testament saints and the tribulation saints. And now he's returning back to earth.
And this is where we're leaving out of Revelation 19, but he's returning back in Zachariah 14 with all the four categories of the saints. And now they're all returning on white horses. They're going to be riding white horses. Let me ask you this. What do you think the number of those white horses, because we're talking about all those saints, how many white horses do you think there's going to be?
A lot, a real lot. Now, in that situation too, is he going to be riding these white horses across millions and billions of miles of space or are we going to see doors opening? Are we going to see dimensions, different dimensions?
Oh, different dimensions. It tells you right there in verse 11, that I saw heaven open. Yep.
That's good, that's good. And then you look in Revelation chapter six, the sixth deal, and heaven's rolled back like the scroll. You know, so yeah, there's going to be heaven and earth, they're going to be like one there. What about Jacob's ladder? Jacob's ladder, when a door opened above him, that was right above him, wasn't thousands of miles on space, was it?
Right, right. It's a portal. And then in John, in Revelation four, when John was speaking and he said, and what happened, and I was caught up into heaven right above him, a door opened, huh? Yes.
Yes. And so all of a sudden the door opens and we go, we're transported through across space and we land over there and guess where we land? Right there in Jerusalem. And guess where?
Right at the Mount Olives. And the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings is going to be standing in the exact place where he was when he left his world, huh? That's correct.
That's Acts chapter one, verse 11, I believe, the angel told the disciples that this same Jesus is going to return as you see him go. That's right, that's right. And so he brings all of the saints back, the armies of heaven. What do armies do?
Fight. Yes. So we're not going to be spectators.
We're going to be coming back with our glorified bodies. Now the object of going to war is to kill more of the enemy than they kill of you, right? Now, if we can't die, does that give us a decisive advantage over the armies of the earth? Yes. Absolutely. So a lot of people get, they get confused and think it's all the people, but it's not, it's just the armies of the world, not all the people of the world.
Okay. And so there's going to be, now it's not going to be like in the days, where he took them and Pharaoh's chariots and Pharaoh's mighty men, these, you know, no, it's going to be different. We're going to come back and we're going to be talking about, you know, modern weapons of today.
We're going to be fighting against armies with modern weapons of today, but we're going to be doing it with our glorified bodies. Right, right. And it says there pastor in verse 15, that they're going to be facing, it says, and he treaded the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty God. So they're going to be facing the wrath of God on return. Yeah, exactly. That winepress, when he treads it, it's going to be, the blood's going to be the horse's bridle and it's going to be for about 120 miles long. And that's from the, from the judgment of Jesus Christ on them, the wrath.
He's going to, it's like a big, like a big winepress in it. So the blood will come out of that people. It'll be as high as the horse's bridle. Well, actually, I think what you're talking, did you ever watch horses run when the horses run on the, on the track? The horses run on the track. If there's mud on the track, he kicks it up and the mud goes right to their bridle.
I've been over to that valley of Megiddo. There's not enough blood of all the people in the whole wide world and all the animals could be able to fill that. Okay. So I believe he's talking about the blood will be up to the horse's bridle in the sense that that's exactly where it will be kicked up to as they go to battle and fight.
Okay. But that, well, John, you've been there to that, the valley of Megiddo. That place is huge.
I mean, you could put Lake Erie in there, couldn't you? Well, I don't know about that, but yeah, well, it talks about outside the city past 30. So I think the pinpoint in the location is outside Jerusalem where it starts.
All righty, very good. We probably better stop right there. So we've, we've come to the point where we, we understand that there are going to be animals in heaven. And here's, here's what I believe. This is, this is my theory.
Okay. I, I believe that, see, um, in heaven where there's going to be possibilities. Well, nothing will be impossible. I believe that nothing will be impossible. I believe that we'll actually be able to just by thinking about our pets are just by bringing him back to memory.
We'll be able to recreate those, those animals right there. Uh, that's what I believe. There's no, I don't have any biblical basis for that, but because, you know, the Bible says all things are possible.
All things are possible. All things means all things, right? So what do you think about that, John? I agree with you. I mean, uh, the pets become like part of the family and that, that love with pets is, comes from God. God is love.
And I don't see any reason why in eternity we wouldn't have that with us. Yeah. Yeah. All righty. We wouldn't pass up our first break tonight, but that's all right. We were, we were, we were, we were gone. We were, we were at a roll.
Okay. So now with that tonight, you know where we were, we were bringing America back to life, uh, convention, and this was absolute dynamite. I'm telling you, John is the largest pro life, uh, activity, a convention conference, if you will, in America, the largest.
And I'm going to tell you the, what I, what I saw was that the morale of the people is higher than it's ever been right now. Uh, the folks down there, it's like, we're on a roll list. Let's take America back. And, and, uh, I kept hearing abolishing abortion, abolishing abortion all the way. Uh, these folks say we have to stop it now. They're starting. And you know what? More and more tonight than I've, I've been, I've seen that the pro-life rallies before is the mention of God, God, God, okay. Scripture reading all the speakers. It was like, Hey, guess what? Um, they're awakening, they're awakening.
Okay. And so, uh, and, and again, the other things too, was that they've, they're finally realizing, you know, in the past, you know, well, you know, the Democrats really aren't bad people. They're just a little bit confused or incompetent. No, they're bad. They're bad. They need to repent.
The, these people, uh, they're in lock state step when it comes to sin. Uh, they're corrupt. There's, they're completely corrupt. I can honestly say, and I, and I don't like to have to say this. I don't, you know, but I don't know one Democrat that's not corrupt.
I can't think of one, one Democrat at all that is not corrupt. And so, and they need repentance. Oh my goodness. And so, and I mean, on a major scale. And so what do you think it is with, uh, you know, Trump had made the point about all that they had tried to do to him and how they failed. I mean, he asked him, how's that working out for you? Now we're seeing, John, seeing John, uh, the law fair, we're seeing these, these stay behinds, these hold over these corrupt judges and they're still pulling this law fair. Uh, and how do you think that's going to work out for them?
Are you there? Do we lose him? Yeah. It's not like it was, uh, his first term. I mean, he's got the right people in there now. They're purging out the justice department layer by layer.
They're purging out the FBI, you know, and so he's got, he's got the power of the government behind him. Now this today, I want to share this headline with you. Um, let me find out where it is.
Here it is right here. Um, secret resistance agreement between blue states, left wing groups and New York city law firms to conduct coordinated law fair against Doge and Elon Musk. So what's left of the deep state now is gathering together because they've got to stop, uh, Doge because that's where their money is. That's a big, that's a big piggy bank for them. And, and it's being stripped away from them. They have to have that money and the power that's coming from it. So yeah, they're, they're going to, uh, coordinate to try and move and stop, uh, Trump everywhere they can.
Oh, here, here we go. This is from two days ago, Senator blasts, Ohio judges for claiming emergency powers can stop ice deportations. No, Ohio Republican Senator Bernie Marino is blasting a handful of corrupt judges in the state of Ohio for claiming that emergency powers allow them to invalidate federal immigration laws and to prevent ice from rounding up and deporting illegal aliens. Wait, let me ask you this, John, because where do these judges get the authority to invoke emergency powers?
They don't. They said the governor, that the president of the United States or the governors of the States. Well, our governor hasn't done that. Right. So it's like, it's like the governor there has to invite the, uh, the military to come into the, uh, into Ohio.
There's some disaster. The president can't send us military in there. They have to be requested by the governor of Ohio. Marino ripped these rogue judges and one judge in particular for claiming that they have the power to block ice immigration enforcement activities in Ohio.
Uh, and this March 4th letter, the Senator criticized Franklin County judge Kim Brown. I think this is the same woman here that, that ruled on the Ohio law. The law in Ohio is that these babies that are murdered in these bloody whorehouses of death called abortion mills have to be given either a burial or cremated. But then I believe this is the same wicked woman judge that said, no, that would be too much of a burden on plan predators.
Uh, they could just throw their bodies in the landfill. That's pure evil. That's pure evil. And we prayed that whatever it would take to God would bring this wicked, wicked woman to repentance, no matter what it took that he would bring her down, um, crying and screaming in her face because there's pure evil, pure wickedness.
And that's the Franklin County judge Kim Brown. And so here now and warned her that no one is above the law, but added, and yet you're giving illegal aliens a pass. Do you know what Nancy Pelosi just came out and said, again, she said, building a wall on the border violates the rights of millions of illegals. That's, that's what she actually said that building the wall will violate the rights of millions illegals.
She got a wall around her house. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So what you're talking about is bringing something to the surface that is really, really important. When we look at the constitution and the area about the Supreme Court and the federal courts, what they're doing now, the way that the federal courts are, there's nothing in the constitution. They've made it up. They've usurped the power. And the problem is that like this judge, you just said, is this a male or female judge? Female Kim.
Yeah. It's like, well, you said, where did she get the power to do it? They've stolen that power. And on all levels, the state Congress, the federal Congress has not, what you call it, brought these judges under control. What right, what right, Mr. Ernie, does some district judge, federal judge, we'll say in Ohio, what right does that judge, and I'm talking about federal, have a right to put a national, to bind up a presidential order or a Congress law and say that it's null and void all throughout the country? In other words, they're putting an injunction.
That's the word I was thinking of. What right does a federal judge have to do that? No right at all. Zero. So they need to start bringing charges against this judge.
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, what they should do is the president says, I am ignoring a district judge in whatever state in Washington, DC. I'm ignoring this decision. He has no authority to do this.
Where, where does this district judge gain the authority, have the authority to put a nationwide injunction on my executive order? In other words, what these judges actually have ruled, they said, look, and hear that the Supreme Court came out and they said, yes, you're going to have to continue this wasteful, wasteful, illegal spending. In other words, now, and then we saw, we got sold out. I mean, Trump got sold out.
We knew that Roberts has been, been a rhino for a long time. You know, he'll, we, we really couldn't count. But remember, I told you before about Amy Comey Barrett, I told her that I wouldn't remember when she first went in and I said, I think we have another Sandra Day O'Connor. Since then, she's voted for the Democrats several times, hasn't she?
Absolutely, president. She, she should have hold the ground there in the 2020 election, but she didn't. And you know, there was something too. Did, when you watched Tuesday night, when Trump was walking in, when he first was walking in, there on the left was the Supreme Court. Roberts was there and Barrett was there. Did you see the looks on their faces?
I mean, I, when I saw that, I thought, boy, there's something up here. You know, this is, they weren't really, it seems like they weren't very excited to see President Trump, were they? No, they weren't. And I'll tell you who was not happy to see him was the joint piece of staff. Was the joint piece of staff.
They were, they were frozen solid. Did you notice that past Ernie? Cause he's about to fire them all. Yeah.
They're, they're all woke and they've been promoting that DEI and, and all of that. And he's, he's about ready to, to fire them all, but they were frozen solid with his presence. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's going to be up to Hanks, Pete Hanks has to, to fire those, those generals. And so. The joint piece of staff, I don't know.
I don't know, but everything below them for sure, he can fire. So here we go, Pastor Ernie, we have some district, federal district judge in Washington, DC that puts a nationwide injunction on the executive branch of the president of the United States who was elected by what, 75 million people, whatever it was. Who was this judge?
Where does the judge get the authority to do this? They've, they've usurped it. And it's time for the president and Congress to take this back from the federal courts. Absolutely.
It's way past time, isn't it? And so, yeah, and that's what we had. We had all this law here. Look, you had this Jack Smith, a special prosecutor, but he'd had no more authority than you or I to be a special prosecutor.
He was never appointed. Okay. So the whole, so everything he did.
Okay. Now, by the way, all of this stuff coming out to the Obama here, I have copies that have come out, which we, we knew before, but they're copies of Obama's birth certificate. And it shows you very clearly that he was born in Kenya and that, you know, he was not. And the fact that he started school here as a foreign student, not an American citizen.
And so we knew that. I mean, I knew that years ago that he was born in Kenya. In fact, Seth, if you look at that, uh, that, uh, uh, clip we had, or the recording of Obama, your mama, whatever, if you have that, it's the one with the, with Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton was the first birth there. He was there in Kenya. And he was, he had a, uh, he was talking to the mayor of Kenya and he says, so is this the place where Barack Obama was born? And he says, yes, it is.
It's here. And you know, right here is his, the, the place he was born. They had a little building and, uh, all of this stuff, you know, to commemorate Barack Obama's birthplace. In fact, you know, who else was, there was Michelle Obama. She was out and she was there speaking and she said, yes, this is the birthplace of my husband.
Okay. And so what that actually would mean is because we don't, Obama had at least four, uh, social security cards and, and, you know, we saw all this to his, to him. And so that means that everything he did, uh, was illegal, that he was never really a legitimate president of this country because he wasn't born in America. But, um, you know, I mean, you have to be born in America, not just born to American parents, right? Come on, John. No, Pastor Ernie, I, I, I, if your parents are American citizens, it doesn't matter where you're born.
I don't think. Well, his parents weren't American citizens, you know? Right. But that's the issue is it's your parents.
If your parents are American citizens, you're an American citizen. So it seems like everything, I mean, everything about the left is corrupt, everything. Okay. Uh, there's nothing that's not corrupt.
I mean, they're, they're all completely corrupt. We saw with, with, with Joe Biden, unbelievable, what, you know, he did everything he can possibly do while he was in there to destroy this country. And so we're coming up to a break. When we come back from the break, we have a bunch of articles to go through. So we're going to do that. So we'll be back right after this with a whole lot more. So don't go away because John is going to overwhelm us. We'll be, we'll be right back.
