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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Well, good evening and welcome to the program. And a lot of you may have guessed instantly, this is not Pastor Ernie Sanders. This is his co-host, Pastor Joe Larson, sitting in tonight.

Pastor had a little setback with the illness and the pneumonia and I'm sitting in for him tonight. And so you're going to have to put up with me a little while longer. Anyway, welcome to the program.

This is the 11th day of January and on the board trying to keep me out of trouble is none other than the one and only style. And we have a special guest with us tonight, Nate Cain, a former Army veteran who also worked as a civilian with the Navy Marine Corps. And he is running for Congress in West Virginia and he's going to be spending the evening with us.

And we're going to have quite a bit to go over. So good evening, Nate, and welcome. Hey, good evening and thank you so much for having me on. It's good to be back on the show. Okay.

Well, unfortunately, I hadn't had the problem of, you know, hadn't had the ability to work with you before anything. So we'll just play it by ear. I'm a former Army chief warrant helicopter gunship jockey. So we have a little bit Army in common. But we're going to start off with the Bible study. And we've been, the title of this week's message has been the accurate account of God's divine institutions of marriage and family. Pastor Ernie had us set tonight with a lot of commentary. So I'm going to kind of go along the same vein but detour just a bit. If you have your Bibles, I'm going to start out in Ephesians chapter 6.

And Nate, if you have any questions or comment, just jump in here while I do this. I'm going to look at the first four verses in Ephesians 6. Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor thy father and mother, which is the first commandment with promise, that it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

And as I read this, I thought, okay, this is pretty clear. We have a hierarchy. God's father is in charge. He sends orders to his son who speaks, who does the work, and the Holy Spirit provides the power. So that's the pecking order in the Trinity. And then the man, the husband, is under the Lord Jesus.

The wife is under him, and the children are under the husband and wife together, because the two are to become one. So here it's very clear that the parents are to be obeyed, to honor the father and the mother. And God made it, and Scripture calls it the first commandment with promise.

Okay, and the promise was that they were going to, you know, this would give us a long, happy, healthy life. And as a father, we're not supposed to, you know, be mean or provoke the children or bully them, but bring them up in what? Admonition.

That's an interesting word. Admonition of the Lord. And, well, I thought, where do we learn about admonition? I thought, well, let's go to Exodus. And in Exodus chapter 24, verse 12, and the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me and to the mount, and be there, and I will give thee tablets of stone and a law and commandments, which I have written that thou mayest teach them. And I noticed, okay, there was a theme here, Leviticus 10, verse 11, and that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the Lord hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses. Deuteronomy 4, 1. Now therefore hearken, O Israel, and we can always add O America in there because it fits perfectly, unto the statutes and unto the judgments which I teach you, for to do them.

Ah, to do them. Remember, we're called doers of the word Baptist Church, be ye a doer of the word and not a hearer only. So in this verse, it says, For to do them, the what statutes and judgments which you are taught, that ye may live and go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your fathers giveth you. Now, many times, Nate, Pastor and I have explained to people that America was really the promised land for the Christians. Israel was given the promised land, they were the children of God, the chosen ones, but when they rejected him, it went to the Gentiles, and the Gentiles chose to accept the Christ, but they were persecuted everywhere they went. So what did God do?

Well, he made a place, he found a place. And if we look back at our history, the pilgrims and all that came in here, we've done many studies and programs on it. We saw covenants with God, we saw we came here, what, for freedom of religion. Founding fathers came here to be free to worship God in the way they saw fit. And they brought with them, of course, their Bibles, they started trying to set things up. One of the first, I think, pilgrims, one of the first laws in America was the old deluder Satan law.

And that's because the old deluder Satan lies and deceives. Children must be raised in a school in admonition of the Lord and understanding of Scripture. One of the first laws in America. Did you know that, Nate?

I know that it was definitely a lot different than it is today. That's the danger. I think of the admonition of the Lord that God wants fathers to have towards their children. And I can't help but be reminded of the book of Proverbs. That's pretty much what that entire book is. It was a father speaking to his son to basically give him instruction towards following the edicts of God. And, you know, wisdom. In chapter 1, verse 8, he says, Listen, my son, to your father's instruction. Do not forsake your mother's teaching.

They are a garment to grace your head and a chain to adorn your neck. Exactly. And this is probably one of the greatest problems in America today, is we have forgotten the words of God. We have forgotten that we were to, as a nation, if we wanted to what? Like He said, if you to do them, to do the statutes, the judgments, we are to live and prosper.

Then we go over and look, we see the same thing. He repeats, dude 4 9, 4 10, Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, unless they depart from the heart all the days of thy life. But teach them thy sons and thy sons' sons. This has to be taught, father teaching son and daughter, father teaching son and daughter, on and on down the line, the sons carried forward. And as I was just going through looking, everything that he told Moses, when they stood before God, the Lord God in Horeb, the Lord said to Moses, gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

And I look at that, and I go, this is about as plain as it can get. Moses, the leader, was to what? Gather the people together.

He did at Mount Horeb. And I, God, will make them hear my words, that they learn to fear, that's honor and respect, not tremble and fear, but honor and respect, that they shall what? Live upon the earth. Notice, it didn't just say in the Promised Land. It says, upon the earth.

Because, what? God wanted his people to spread out all over the, you know, fill the world. And then even in Duke 14, or 414, And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land. I was thinking, boy, this just goes on and on.

I'm just hitting a few of the verses, but when God repeats something over and over, I think he's trying to tell us something. Wouldn't you agree? I do. I think we're living in a day where we're basically, we've fallen into that ideology of relativism. And, you know, I remember when I was a young Christian, I think I was probably about 17 years old, somebody gave me a copy of your Christianity. And I remember him talking about, you know, about this concept that, you know, that what's good for you is good for you, what's good for me is good for me, and the fallacy of that, that it's an illogical thing. We all know right from wrong. We know it because when somebody cuts in front of you in line, you know, we know that's not right. If somebody comes in front of you, oh, it's not right.

And yet we're living in a day where there doesn't seem to be, you know, maybe there's this acceptance that thing goes. And, of course, that says why. Exactly. I'm going to take one last shot at this and a repetitious Deuteronomy 5 31.

And I'll cover part of it. I will speak unto thee all the commandments and the statutes and the judgments which thou shalt teach them, that they may do them in the land which I give them to possess it. Then in verse 32, ye shall observe to do, therefore as the Lord your God hath commanded you, ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left, and ye shall walk in the ways which the Lord your God hath commanded you, that you may live, that it may be well with you, that ye may prolong your days in the land which ye shall possess. Now, repetition, but he carries it out there again, which don't turn to the right hand, don't turn to the left hand, stay on the path, follow, you know, what was the old thing, follow the leader? We know that God tells us what? We're not to listen to the vain philosophies and deceits of men.

And yet, isn't that exactly what's happened to America? Yeah, yeah. We're seeing, you know, we're living in times where we're seeing exactly what was talked about in 2 Timothy chapter 3, where it says, you should know this, that Timothy's last days there will be very difficult times, for people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, the exact opposite of what was commanded to be. To be, yeah.

Yeah. They, ungrateful, they will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving. They will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God.

They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that. Stay away. Be ye separate, in other words, come out from among them, huh?

Mm-hmm. We always tell, we're unregistered Baptists, and we believe that's exactly what it means, be ye separate. We live in the world, but we are separate from the world as a separatist. Now, I can go out and work with the ungodly. I can go out and deal with them in public, often because we have to, you know. You can't always choose who you work or have to trade or do things with, but we don't bring the ungodly into our homes. We don't make them our best friends. We don't, you know, bring them into our churches and our circles like that. The idea is we keep separate, and the close, trusting relationships are to be with our brothers and sisters in Christ.

Be ye separate, come out from the world. We don't have to live by their values. We are not to live by their values. We are not to accept their false beliefs. If you look, everything in the world today, almost everything is an ism, right? We have, go back, you've got existentialism, multiculturalism, postmodernism, cultural Marxism, wokeism. I've got a list somewhere, I don't have it handy, but there must be about 28, 27, 28 different isms, and I notice the one thing they all have in common is they are anti-Christ. Anti-Christ.

Absolutely. And yet, most people, well, over Christmas we were talking about how sad it was, more children in the world know who Santa Claus and Rudolph are than Jesus Christ. Why are too many know all about the story of Rudolph and Santa, but ask them about Jesus and nowadays you get a lot of deer in the headlight looks.

So let's take one more look here, following along. I'm going to jump to Deuteronomy 6. We know here we were talking about, we started with those commandments. Moses went up to the mountain to get, to bring back to the children, and he was up there a long time learning what God wanted to be taught. And Deuteronomy 6, I'm going to read a little. And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart and with all thy soul with all thine might. And these words which I command thee this day shall be in thine heart.

Thought about that. In the heart, in the center of your being, in the core of who you are. You are to carry what? The love of God within your heart and soul at what? All times, all places? And not only that, but we were talking about the children when we started in Ephesians chapter 6. You know, the children obeying the parents and honoring the father and mother. Well, if we do it, God says, and what does he say? Deuteronomy 6 verse 7. And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. Now, one thing I notice, Nate, nowhere does it say, send them to the public full system to what?

Learn these commandments, judgments, statutes of the Lord. It's not there, is it? No. Do you think there's a reason God didn't put it there? Send them to school to learn these things? He didn't make the teacher, the local school teacher, even the local pastor, he made who? The parents, even above the pastor of the church, right?

Yep. When we think about how these American schools used to be, you know, they were in the community and you didn't have socialized education, right? You know, oftentimes the education, the source of education was the church. And I think we are facing, you know, a spiritual famine in our country. What's interesting here, what I think from this scripture, in verse 7 in particular, we're talking about teaching your children diligently and shall talk of them, talk of the commandments of God when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, when you rise up.

This is a lifestyle. It's not something, you know, unfortunately in America we see too often people, you know, the only time their children are ever getting education is on Sunday. That's it. And they get what, maybe 30, 45 minutes of Sunday school, but then they've got a whole week of being sent to the devil for an education where they tell them the Bible's a myth, you know, they teach cultural Marxism, diversity, equity, inclusion. They teach about homosexualism, you know, sodomy is a normal, natural, healthy.

And you look at the balance, the scales don't come out very well, do they? Yep. Yep.

I think that's about it. Go ahead. I think we have to, you know, the Word of God has got to become a part of who we are. It has to be ingrained into our being.

And I know, like for me, you know, obviously we can always do better than how we're doing. But I know there's, it's interesting, I've come to a point in my life where I can't help but talk about God everywhere I go because it's such a part of my normal life. It's not compartmentalized, you know, it's integrated into every aspect of my life. So whether I'm at work, whether I'm in church, whether I'm, you know, talking to friends, you know, or on the campaign trail for that matter, I can't help but integrate stories about, you know, what God is doing in my life or stories about the lessons that God has taught me and shown me in my life because it is a part of everything, it is a part of who I am, and that is, that's where God wants us to be. Exactly. When we become born again, we become, what, a child of God, a spiritual child of the Kingdom, then God is our spiritual Father as well as our physical Father, and how could we help but act any other way? That's no longer being a compartment, we are his, we belong to him, and everything we've given to him, right?

Yeah. And what happens is when you are that way, when you get to that point where it just becomes a part of who you are and everything that you say, what happens is you're no longer ashamed. You know, I remember, you know, I remember when I was, you know, a very, I remember, I don't want to say I wasn't a Christian, but I think, I really do believe that I was not in a place where Christ was actively moving in my life. Right, you haven't cried, he wasn't Lord of your life.

He certainly wasn't. I had accepted Christ when I was like a young child because I had gone to a vacation Bible school, but it wasn't until I turned my life over to God. You know, I remember a couple of times, you know, wanting to tell somebody something about God, but I was too ashamed to. But after I had that, you know, that feeling of the Holy Spirit, that empowerment, you know, of God into my life, there was no way that I could not tell somebody, you know, about God or about the lessons that I was learning in my life. And the great thing about that is it's really, there's always going to be people that are going to attack you because of your faith.

I mean, that's just, you know, that's the way that it is in life. I mean, Satan is at work and, you know, of course, we're not promised that people are going to love us because we're Christians. In fact, we're promised the opposite, that people will hate us because of it. But, interestingly enough, it says that people will know that we're Christians by our love. And, you know, and so, you know, we will exude those fruits of the Spirit. You know, if God is in us, we will.

Exactly. Let me, those last two verses there, and these, she's talking about these laws. And thou shall bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and there they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

And being an old living on a ranch, we have a lot of Amish neighbors. And frontlets are little blinders on the side of a horse. And what they do is keep the horse's eye focused on the road ahead, not looking to the side to see what's going on. And that reminds me, when it says, be separate from the world, my goal is what? I'm on that highway to heaven. I'm focused on the highway to heaven. I'm not looking over at the side to see what all the world is doing.

I really don't care in that sense. I'm focused on where God has directed me, what God has asked me to do, where I'm going, and then it says in verse 9, And thou shall write them upon the posts of thy house and on thy gates. And so many people when they come to my little ranch, they're so surprised on the, they come up the driveway, there are Ten Commandments as you come through the gate. And when they come into the house, one of the first things they see on the wall are the Ten Commandments. And when the front door is open, there's a little sign that says, As for me and my house, we serve the Lord. And somebody's always going, Wow, you want to make sure your people know you're Christian, right? I said, exactly.

I'll tell you funny things. I said, first thing God told me to do this, and more than just I'm a Christian, I'm being obedient because this is what He said He wanted us to do. And people are kind of shocked at that.

They're just, what? God, once you're, you know, going, Did you read Deuteronomy? You know, I'll quote scripture to them, and they'll just stand there and look and go, Oh, well, yeah, but that's the Old Testament.

And I go, well, yeah, it is. But what did Jesus teach and preach out of the Old Testament? Maybe He thought there was something good in it, or He wouldn't have given us the whole Old Testament, right?

That's right. You know what I love about the Old Testament is that it actually shows the humanity, and it shows, of course, the people who fail, not just the heroes. No other book is like that.

You see all these other, you know, books that, you know, that's about, you know, their people or their gods, and they seem to be, you know, the heroes and all of that, and it never shows them their weakness, it never shows that path to redemption, but the Bible does, even in the Old Testament. And that's one of the things I love about it. Yeah, and I just got kind of worded, we're just approaching a break, and I'll tell people this same line is repeated due to 1120, same thing, writing them on the doorposts and the gates. We're going to take a break and be right back with a whole lot more. Take it away, stuff.

I'll remember you In November To vote for anyone but anyone but you Remember me, I served my country proudly Remember me, I love the USA Remember me, or am I just some bumpkin Who you didn't think would notice The bounce checks and midnight breaks Remember me, I wrote you all those letters Thinking that you cared what I thought, too Even though you often just forget to remember I'll remember you I'll remember In November As I step into the little booth I'll remember In November To vote for anyone but anyone but you We'll remember In November As we step into the little booth We'll remember In November To vote for anyone but anyone but you We'll remember In November To vote for anyone but anyone but you We're back. Welcome back to What's Right, What's Left Radio Ministry, the voice of the Christian resistance. I'm Pastor Joe Larson, sitting in for my mentor and friend, Pastor Ernie.

He's back under the weather with that bug he had, the pneumonia. And I have a guest with me tonight, Nate Cain. But right now, we have a caller calling in, a dear friend of the ministry, Coach DeWayne.

And I guess you have a special request, Coach. Good evening, Joe. How are you doing? I'm doing better than I deserve. Hey, well, God bless you. Thanks for...

I'm doing pretty good. Thank you for sitting in for Pastor Sanders and being his co-host all these years, because you do a tremendous job in lifting up the name of Jesus. And I want to commend you for that. Well, it was kind of like God told me I had to do it, Coach.

I didn't have much of a choice. Well, it's almost like God says, if you light a candle, you don't put it under a bushel. And us Christians, we are a city on the hill of a shining light representing Jesus, are we not? We are.

Amen, brother. Well, my prayer request tonight comes from Dee Eldridge down in Dakota, Georgia, which happens to be my brother-in-law. Dee takes good care of him. He's 78 years old, and he's going for a special heart procedure tomorrow. They can't do an open-heart surgery because of his lungs, and they don't think he would make it through the surgery. So they're doing something called a kevar, T-E-V-A-R, to where they have to go up through one of the arteries and try to fix the valve.

Oh, yeah, they're going to do the micro thing through the artery and do a little micro surgery on the valve, right? Right, that's what's going on. So we're requesting prayer requests for my brother-in-law. He knows the Lord. He's been wonderful.

My sister passed away a few years ago, and the family loves him. Russ is a special guy with a warm, big heart, but he's got some work cut out for him tomorrow morning on the operating table with the doctors. All right, so his first name is Dee? His first name is Russ. It's Dee who takes good care of him. Oh, Dee is part of the last Dee.

Eldridge is one word, then. Yeah, Dee Eldridge is my niece, and she takes care of Russ. She makes sure that everything goes through the hospital.

Yes, she takes really good care. Okay, I would just ask everyone out there to join me, and I know Coach will pray along, because every one of us is going to need prayer someday, and God wants us all to be in prayer to Him. Yes, He knows the problem. He knows Russ. He knows what's going on.

He knows everything. But He told us to bring everything to Him in prayer. He wants to see our obedience, and that obedience, when we're obedient, we're blessed, and He hears our prayers, right?

Correct. So let's all go together, and everyone out there, pray with me. Dear Heavenly Father, I don't know, Russ, but I do know what happens when you're in your 70s, 78, and have other problems, and this procedure is going to be probably a little bit touchy. It's going to be risky, dangerous for an older person with other problems, and, Lord, we just ask that you would wrap your loving arms around Russ, that you would protect him, that you would strengthen him, that you would help heal him, that, Lord, that you would guide and direct the surgeons, that you would be with all the medical staff, the anesthesiologists, the nurses, and just guide and direct everything, Lord, if it be Thy will, Lord, you tell us to ask that, to make sure that we understand if it be Your will, and we ask you to be with Dee and all the rest of the family, those that love Russ and care for him, that you would comfort them, be with them, and bless the whole family in every conceivable way, Lord, and we just put Russ into your precious arms and your hands and give him over to you to take care of tomorrow, and we just ask this in the name above all names, in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. Thank you very much. You and Nate continue on with a great show tonight, so on behalf of the Eldridge family and the Risco family, God bless you and all your listeners, and I want to thank everyone for praying along, and continue to support What's Right, What's Left Radial Ministries. Hey, I love you guys. Keep fighting and fighting and doing a good job. God bless. Love you, coach. Thanks. God bless. Bye-bye, my friend. There is another, Nate, there is a 110% Christian that goes out and lives like a Christian, acts like a Christian, evangelizes.

He's a great guy, and he's one of those people that would, he's just about as nice a man as you'll meet do anything for you, so they don't make many like him. Anyway, one thing I do, I don't know where you'd want to start tonight, but I do remember you were, if I'm, tell me if I'm incorrect, you were one of those, or the one that blew the whistle on that Hillary Clinton selling out to what, 20, was it 20 or 25% of our uranium to the Russians? Yes. We called it the Uranium One scandal, and was that you? Yes, that was me. So you have been a warrior. That goes back quite a few years, so you're not exactly a young pup then. I remember Ernie and I were just livid about her getting away with selling our uranium to the enemy, and thought she should have been, you know, that to me was treason, but...

I agree. How did you come, how did you get in the middle of that one? So I was working at the FBI. I've had a career in cybersecurity for 26 years. Oh, cybersecurity, okay.

Yes. Yeah, so my career field is pretty specialized in seeing that I've been in it for so long, you know, kind of at the top of my field, and I had been working at NSA. I was detached from the Marine Force's cyberspace command and was working as part of a national mission going after hackers, hacking our national critical infrastructure, and completed their schooling, which is pretty extensive, and as soon as I put that up on my resume, I immediately got a call from the contractor that had a position with the FBI.

They had had a very difficult time filling. I think about seven guys had gone before me and had failed the interview. So, you know, the guy told me right up front, you know, what the salary was, and it's twice what I was making, so it wasn't hard for me to say, hmm, let me think about it. Okay.

Okay. And... Yeah, so I went and I interviewed, and because I was fresh, you know, out of school and learning a lot of these techniques and stuff, I nailed the interview, and I got offered the position, and I was just so proud the day I went to work for the FBI. It was really, you know, kind of the pinnacle of my career, and just, you know, it was one of those moments where it was pretty exciting. But it didn't take long for me to see, you know, that there was a rot within the FBI. There was a major bias. There was a lot of, you know, a lot of anti-Trump, you know, hate, you know, in the run-up to the election, a lot of people, you know, who were very vocal about their politics in the office, and I wasn't used to that, because, you know, being a government employee and a contractor, you know, barely working for the DOD, I just wasn't used to people talking about that sort of thing in the office. But one day, I walked in, and I overheard a conversation where somebody had seen some transcripts by the senior leadership at the FBI that they were talking about. It was a recorded conversation, and that's the most conversations at the FBI are, and it was a system that was transcribing the conversation, and so somebody said that they had seen these transcripts, and they were talking about their investigations into Hillary Clinton and that words like treason and this is so big that they bring down the government were being thrown around in this conversation, and eventually, a decision was made for fear that Hillary Clinton was going to be the president, the next president. A decision was made to shut down the investigations in there and make them go away.

Shut down the investigation because she could be the next president. So that, in a nutshell, that really kind of covers a lot of ground, doesn't it? It does.

It does. It's called the destruction of justice. So I ended up blowing the whistle, and what really, you know, at first, I didn't know. I went and I looked, and I found documents. I found suspicious activity reports from financial crimes, you know, the division of the FBI, and they had money trails. They had four major charges with analyst notes and high credibility of criminal activity.

The issues that they had were, and each of these, by the way, had separate case numbers, and they were being investigated out of different field offices, the Little Rock, Arkansas, New York City, and Washington, D.C., the Washington Field Office. So the crimes that were listed were money laundering, public corruption, securities and exchange fraud, and terrorism financing. So I... Is that all?

Just to say, I'm sorry. Money laundering. What? Public corruption. Public corruption. Yep. Securities and exchange fraud. And the one that struck my... got my attention was the terrorism financing.

Terrorism. And yet... Okay, let me... Just a sec. I got...

This just hits me. So they have all of this in an investigation, and yet they shut it down because she could be the next president. She might become our boss. Well, they already know if a person's doing all these, they're crooked. So you would think that they would want to try harder to make sure she... all this got out so she could not become president because we don't need people leading the country that are guilty of charges like this.

You would think the opposite should have happened, but instead of pushing the investigation, bringing a little sunlight, bringing this to the Department of Justice or anything that could be done, they just shut it down and closed the book. Is that right? That's right. You know, justice is supposed to be blind in our country. It's supposed to be equal justice under the law. Yeah.

But, you know, the... I'm afraid that Lady Justice has had her blindfold removed. And, you know, she's wearing a proud, you know, pin of the Democrat Party, and instead of holding scales, she probably should be holding a hammer and a sickle because what we've seen is essentially a communist takeover of many of our government agencies. What happened in her case, in Hillary Clinton's case, is the thing that was, to me... When I first looked for these documents and I found, you know, all of this evidence documents, I thought the rumors about shutting it down was not true because these had case numbers.

They had separate field offices involved. I thought, how could you cover up something that's a case? So it must not be true. But you'll remember when Comey came out in front of the Jagger Hoover building and gave that press conference where he basically laid out all of the classified documents that were found on Hillary Clinton.

Right. He came out and said all the bad things she did and then said... Yep. And then he said no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against her for this. Now, here's what was... One of the things that I caught on to that I don't think most Americans understand. He said that there were thousands of classified documents that were secret, right?

That's bad enough. But he said that there were seven e-mail chains that had special access programs in it, what they call SATs. Now, I've had a top secret clearance for 26 years, and I will tell you, I've been a red-on through several programs when I worked especially for NSA, and I had also some over at the FBI. And, you know, I had to get polygraphed. This was serious stuff. This was the kind of stuff that if they got out, you know, it could cost people their lives.

It could bring a brave name to the country. Special access programs, even if you have a top secret clearance, you don't get access to it. You have to be signed non-disclosures, which are for life.

So there's things that I've read that I'll never be able to talk about ever. There are things that are too important to national security. And in order for me to even see these documents when I had been read on to them, I had to go seek permission from the security manager. Who would then have to open a safe, and they would have to pull out a document folder, look in that folder, make sure that I'm listed as one of the people authorized to see those documents, and then she would hand-carry those documents over to the safe room within a skip. So we're already in a secured environment where everybody in there has a top secret clearance. But these documents are so sensitive, they don't want somebody walking by with a top secret clearance, mind you, and looking over my shoulder and seeing these documents. So they bring them into a separate room. They bring them in a separate room, and only in that room am I allowed to actually review these documents.

And then I have to basically put the cover, you know, letter back over it, and then bring it back to the security manager to be put back into the safe and the locked sun. That's how curious these documents are. And yet... So somebody had the power and authority to shut down an investigation meeting to close those files, put them away. Do you think they were destroyed or just hidden away? Well, my, you know, and I've talked with some of my friends over at... Some of the friends from my NSA previous life, and, you know, I asked them, I said, what do you guys think? You know, how could you have special access programs on a private e-mail server? Remember, it was on a private e-mail server in the basement bathroom of her home at Chappaquiddick. I mean, she had to walk out of the, you know, out of his skiff with documents that she knew were above top secret and put them on that server. There's no way to e-mail them. No other way to get them there.

Got it. So I knew... So my question is, why didn't the FBI ever investigate how those documents... I mean, maybe she didn't do it. Maybe it was somebody else.

But how did those documents end up on her server? And so the moment that he said that that was the case and that nobody reasonable would bring a case against her, that's when I knew that the rumors of them going to... that they were going to cover things up, that I knew it was true. And part of the reason I knew it was true is I was still even in denial even then. But I heard my unit chief, who was cussing and swearing in his office, and I had a pretty relationship with him, so I walked over and I was like, hey, Chuck, what's going on? And he said to me... And I was not part of the law enforcement side of the FBI.

I was on the technical side. So he said to me, he goes, we do not... We do not bring indictments. We only investigate.

We have no decision-making authority, as the FBI, on whether or not to indict somebody. Early adjudication made by the Department of Justice. And I said, well, do you think he's saying this because they're going to come down strong on her over other things that they have on her? And he said, no, they're going to cover this up. And so at that point, I was like, oh, my.

I have a choice to make. I can either ignore this and continue to make the most money I've ever made in any job, or I could blow the whistle, put my life at risk, my career at risk, my freedom at risk, and probably destroy my career over it. And, you know, like I said earlier, I was the Lord, and I knew that God had likely put me there for that reason. And so I went home that night, and I was laying in bed, and I was awfully quiet, unusual for me, and my wife looked over and said, what's going on with you? You're too quiet. You know, what's happened? And I just sat there laying in bed, looking up at the ceiling, and I said, I think I'm going to blow the whistle on the FBI. And she sat up and said, what? And, you know, and she said, why does it have to be you?

And I explained to her what I discovered. She said, why does it have to be you? And I said, it's not me.

Who's it going to be? And I said, what if God put me here for that reason, and I don't do anything about it? And what kind of Christian am I? I either trust God or I don't. And so she then said, well, if you feel that God has called you to do this, then I will support you 100%.

Thanks again. You picked a good one there. It was a very tough decision to make. I had to walk out of the FBI. And part of the problem was I had, I had over 458 classified documents. And these documents, it wasn't like I could just go through my chain of command because everybody in my chain of command, from the deputy AG, Ron Rosenstein, the now special counsel, Robert Euler, to Comey, James Comey, who's the FBI director, and the intelligence community inspector general, Michael Atkinson, they were all involved. I was just going to say you just walked through the valley of the shadow of death right there, right?

Yep. So I reached out to a YouTuber at the time named Bill Still, who I knew was a Christian. I had just started watching the show and we had a pretty good show on. He had had some whistleblowers on.

And he had always ended his YouTube channel with a Bible verse. And so I knew I was going to reach out to him. So I reached out to him and he became kind of my middleman to get to Devin Nunez at the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. That Devin Nunez, right?

Yes. And I looked up the law and the law said that I could give classified documents to anyone who was a senior staff member to the intel committee. I understand. So we set up a meeting and we had a clandestine meeting that we drove around the Capitol for three hours while I debriefed him. I took everything out on a thumb drive and it was the scariest time of my life. And after I went through and debriefed him, he asked me, can you go back in and get more information?

I remember thinking to myself, are you kidding me? It took me every ounce of courage to walk out with this and you want me to go back and get more. But he asked me to bring something else. He said they had a document that they had heard about from another whistleblower, that there was an intelligence document that showed that the FBI knew that the Russian company Rosatom was dirty before it allowed Rosatom to purchase Uranium One, but the date would prove that. And so I found that intelligence report. And the intelligence report, basically, they had surveillance and everything on a company named Tenex and had been investigating and there was a bribery kickback scheme where the Russians, through this company Rosatom, were trying to infiltrate our uranium supply chain. So they knew this and they allowed the deal to go forward and then, of course, later, millions of dollars were paid to Bill Clinton at a speech that he gave in Moscow. And the money was paid to him by the parent company of Uranium One, or sorry, not Uranium, of Rosatom, the Russian energy company.

So it was clearly a pay-to-play scheme and that's what the evidence was showing. But long story short, when I came out, I ended up getting stuck with the documents because I got cut off in comms to hire a lawyer, go through the full process of becoming a protective whistleblower under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act. It took a year. And four months after, I completed handing over the documents to DOJ IG Horowitz who then got those documents to both the House and Senate intel committees. The FBI raided my home with 16 agents and one agent in particular, the lead supervisory, you know, the special agent in charge, basically. He ended up taking a personal interest in trying to bring a vendetta against me.

So it was a pretty terrifying, horrible experience. But in the end... Let's kind of take a break right there. We've got just a few seconds before we got a break. Leave it at that because Ernie and I have been telling people for years how corrupt the government is.

So your testimony today is helping a lot of listeners out there validate what they've been told and helping them see the problem in our government. There we go. So we're going to take a short break. Folks, don't go anywhere.

We're going to be right back and several more questions I have for Nate here. Okay, Stile, take her away. Oh, I've got a little quick on the trigger here, folks, so we'll have to wait a few more seconds for the break. ? Fight the fight? ? Win this game? ?

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