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The Bible teaches that we have nothing to be proud of, but everything to be thankful for. Pastor Ernie Sanders discusses the importance of natural medicine, specifically vitamin B3 and milk thistle, in preventing and treating fatty liver disease. He also shares his experiences with holistic health and preventative care, and emphasizes the need to trust in God's natural remedies rather than conventional medicine.

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The program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries and is responsible for its content. Portions of the following program may be pre-recorded. I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast What's Right, What's Left is coming up right now.

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I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening, and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left: The Voice of the Christian Resistance. 29th day of April 2026.

One day left in April. Whoa, this year's gone by so fast and uh Tonight folks. You know He's been my apprentice. He's been growing in biblical literacy. He's fine-toning his his broadcasting skills and He's been learning people skills.

Under my tutelage. My producer None other than style. Hey, Pastor, how are you? How was that for an introduction? That was certainly one.

Okay, very good.

Well um She's a lot prettier than we are. Course, just about everybody is, but anyhow She's been helping people in need for a very, very long time. those that uh need real natural medicine cures. And she's well, She's known as America's Medicine Marm. And I've known her for a very long time, and I can tell you this, she is a real lady.

Miss Wendy Wilson. Oh, good evening, Pastor. Glad to be with you. Good to have you here tonight. Uh have you come to to um educate styling myself.

Yeah. Uh Possibly. I don't know. Maybe I'll be educated. All righty.

Well, let's do that. Let's see if we can do that. Starting out with the Bible study. And um the title of the message was I Will Never, Never Leave You. never, never leave you.

And um We started we're gonna pick it up where we left off. It has to do basically with one verse in Scripture here. And that verse is is in first John chapter two. They went out from us but they were not of us, for had they been of us, They would. no doubt have continued with us.

But they went out that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Now, that has many applications as we've been going through here. We've been taking a look at the different applications that have going back with the Lord Jesus as He. Uh was Instructing the Pharisees And uh of course that has application. It it had An application in our church, the church that I pastored for a long time, and many other churches all across America today. uh where you have people within the church that have come out To caused division within the church.

And that's and that is happening now is the devil's moving like in a new direction. uh to divide and conquer. And and we're seeing uh all across America where and this is uh uh again, another part of the end times Um Prophecy, and this is 2 Timothy chapter 3, what we're talking about. But let's start where we left off in verse 15 of 1 John chapter 2. Love not the world Neither the things that are in the world.

If any man loved the world. The love of the Father is not in him. I don't know. Style tummy. Didn't Jesus say They God so loved the world.

That he gave his only begotten son, and he's telling us here to love not the world. What do you think that means?

Well, not the things of the world that are created by man.

Okay, love not the world, neither the things of the world, huh?

So so is he. Is he talking about The Earth, or the people in the Earth? No. No, uhuh. He's actually talking about a system, isn't he?

It's the world what they call the world system. And that exists of possessions? She's talking of possessions. He's talking about positions. and he's talking about pleasures.

Uh What how do you think that would apply to possessions? You can jump in there too, Wendy. Um, well, you know, y y you can't just focus on i if you if you're focusing on love and possessions, you're not focusing on the Lord. There we go. Absolutely.

The love of money is what? Root of all evil.

Okay, and it takes money to get possessions, doesn't it? It does. What about Positions. What about positions? What do we see?

Uh Love not the world Neither the things in it. One of those things or positions. How do we see that? Especially in the corporate world, but do we see that in politics? And do we see that?

We also see that in the church hierarchy. Thank you. So people will Well we see people Uh even in the military betray one another Um go behind the back of others to raise in positions and When it comes to Uh Communism, the antichrist world system that those on the left Oh. When it comes to to us One of you know to to betrayal uh is something That uh to us is perverse. We You know but within the collective betrayal Um to raise a position.

if within a collective, if you can betray someone of importance, someone who has a lot of standing, someone of power, If you can betray them and take them down That adds to You're standing. within the collective. We've seen that happen many times out there today. We saw that happening. You know, that happened with Jimmy Carter in the Shaw of Iran.

Um that happened with um Barack Obama with Barrick, the president of of um Yeah. Egypt. That happened with Hilary when she took when the Gaddafi went down. And uh all of these cases you saw that now In President Trump's situation. Have we seen Something very similar with President Trump.

Yeah, James Comey, trying to take him down in his first, uh, administration.

So if Come yeah, Comey tried to t take that would add to it did it actually within the collective Add to Comey Standing? Oh, yeah, it would. What about somebody else, somebody that was even closer? They could have taken because of the title of the title. Yep.

He betrayed President Trump, didn't he? Yeah. And so here When we see this, of course, uh, you know, Comey But what about even somebody that was even closer that um that Trump really trusted. that he really trusted and and really uh betrayed him Bill Barr Bill Barr, Attorney General. And so that was another one, okay.

that took him down. And of course we We see that within the collective him. When we talk about do you know what liberation theology is? Yeah, I've heard you speak of it. And style, are you familiar with liberation theology?

Liberation Anthology, I remember this. You guys don't remember this 'cause you weren't around back then. When I do. back in the sixties at the University of Tübigen in Germany, a fellow named Jurgen Hmaltemann. He was a liberal theologian back in those days.

he met up with another fellow from the same university called Ernst Bloch. He was a Marxist philosopher. And the two of them came together Uh And they what they try to do is married or combine the teachings of Muhammad with the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. And it Here they referred to this as liberation theology. And and today Today that theology is embraced In all of your World and National Council of Church, United Church of Christ.

United Methodist, uh the Ep Episcopal They all embraced that s they it's referred another word for it is called the socialist gospel, the socialist gospel. Um, can you give me some examples of what I'm talking about? Uh They support Uh everything, in other words, uh those support the enemies of America, the enemies of the Bible, Uh they they will Give money to LGBTQ? They they give money to Planned Parenthood. Everything that God's word, the Bible, calls sin, okay?

And what would be Wha why would it be absolutely The lunacy to try to combine the teachings of Christ with the teachings of Karl Marx. Who was Karl Marx? Um I think it was the communist. Karl Marx was a practicing Satanist. He was a practising Satanist, yeah, and uh The man was a wicked man.

He s he would justify Uh In fact, I We sent out years ago hundreds of books about Marx and Satan. And um he When I often write these hellish, hellish poems, okay. But he was a practising Satanist and he He put his family through a horrible, horrible time. when he celebrated the death of his mother, And he referred to her and I can't ref I can't say how he referred to her. But the man the man who was a very black hearted man, a very black, black hearted man, Uh And so Here.

In the world, the National Council of Churches They either tolerate or embrace abortion sodomy, bestiality Drag queens transgender, Wiccan. Um And do we have a prostitution? And evolution.

Okay, they they all embrace these. They're all totally anti-biblical. Teachings.

Okay. Where do we have what else do we have something very similar to that? In our modern day we wear They try to take another total false religion and Marriott to the teachings of Christ. Can you think of who that was? Oh.

It was it was Rick Warren. He came up Just praise love. And And that was to take Again the teachings of uh Muhammad. uh and combine the teachings of Muhammad with the teachings of Uh Jesus. Yeah.

What was wrong with that? Everything. Yeah. Uh The Bible teaches that the Koran, they taught that Allah has no sons. Allah had no sons, right?

Yeah, what else did it teach about the Koran, about Jesus? It referred to him as. Allah's Truth. As Allah's truth, He was the truth.

So Jesus said he was God the Son, that he was the second person of the Trinity. And uh Do you think maybe They kinda got that little upside down, inside out and backwards. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I I didn't know Rick Warren. was the instigator of that chrysalis.

Oh yeah, guess who else was in there with him? The other person evoked. A fellow named Barack Obama. Barakub yeah, they came together with the idea of Krizlam. And so, and that was.

Uh now Remember. when uh uh Rick Warren in his heyday. he was sending out millions of books, you know. He was on the set on these, um Fox News had him Steve Doocy talking about America's pastor. America's pastor.

and he talked about the Gospel of Rick Warren, the Gospel of Rick Warren, and they were setting out Um All of these uh purpose-driven life books and people were being told They were they they started this, and especially really the women They were having these women's Bible studies and the women were all being told Uh don't bring your Bible. Don't you d you won't need your Bible here. and they weren't using the Bible, they were using Rick Bourne's book. What's wrong with that? Yeah.

This red What is What a question. It's not even God's Word, so And when he wrote the book, Rick Warden said He had to use eleven different versions, eleven different versions. of the Bible to say what he wanted to say. What was wrong with that? Well, it's not it's not the fundamental King James, that's what.

Well, if you're a pastor, are you supposed to be teaching what you want to say or what God has said? Yeah, what God says. Yep, okay. And so Now, here's the other thing: he starts out. The very start of his book.

He's telling you to hook up with a complete stranger and him. Yeah. Um Swear an oath, swear an oath with a A complete stranger in him.

Now what's What is what could possibly be wrong with that? What? What does the Bible teach about swear to an oath? Yeah, the post is swearing us. Right.

He tells you both the Matthew 5 and James 5. You don't do that. You don't swear an oath, okay? And so Here Uh He tells you to start off by going to a complete stranger and and having the the three of you enter into this oath. with each other.

And so The Bible, when I first started reading his book, Um I thought, well this is an error, this is an error, then. it dawned on me these aren't errors at all. These are very, very clever cleverly crafted deceptions. This guy's Purposely putting these deceptions in there, okay. And Rick Warren was demonic, he was really demonic.

Anyhow, so let's go back to where we left off here, and Verse sixteen For all that is in the world. The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the Father. But is of the world.

So he says three things. He says, all that is in the world. He says the lust of the flesh So well, let's let's ask Style, see if he knows. Hey, Style Yeah. When you talk about the lust of the flesh, what are you talking about?

Talking about lust. Uh The lust of the flesh, uh well, how would that app what what would be some applications there? And anything that's lustful would apply. First of all, food. Food.

Okay. Uh that that's the body. The lust of the flesh is the body. And Um Here Mm-hmm. You can it starts with food or You know, there's sexual lusts And we we know that uh That's a earthly that's an earthly lust.

James 3.15, right?

So Then the lust of the eyes.

Okay, the lust of the eyes. is from your soul. That's from your soul. What would be some lust of the eyes?

Well, anything that you want to possess I would think, you know, homes, vehicles maybe. You know, uh, objects, you know, possessions, right? Yeah um Yeah, that would be things that you want to possess that you wouldn't necessarily Should possess, you know, coveted of something that belongs to somebody else too. Yeah. So the The lust of the eyes could be Seeing things that you really don't need but you want.

Um and then again, it hasn't a Um Especially where it comes to The Bible tells you if you look upon a woman Um and Women Um Our In scripture. Uh Well They're more eye-pleasing than men. And They're more sensual. I think that's the word.

So he's talking about sensual here. Sensual. If you look look upon and you lust, you know, upon that woman, And today. one of the the the things that's that's happening When you're watching, they had that, what is it, the Emmy Awards here. And I watched just a few minutes of that and also Uh Just a few minutes of that half-time.

Have you noticed that these women Uh If you haven't flaunted like to flaunt A lot of flesh nowadays out there?

Well, yeah, they they they are doing that. I've noticed it.

Okay. Uh, when they do this, like when they just came uh to that um What was that? The Emmys or whatever it was. Yeah. I mean they were some of them were were doing there naked, okay.

Do you think in their mind they're doing this to get men that they know that men will look upon them? and lust after them. Oh, they know that. Mm-hmm.

Now do you think that they know that that is a sin?

Well, I would think so.

Okay, so d do you know that If they get f five men to look upon them and lust after them, that they share the sins with five men? Probably, yeah. Yeah. say because it seems like there's l like a m A mine is set out there I don't know, that it's it's like you have La La Landers that Uh That these people are just Absolutely. Without a they're clueless.

It seems like they're clueless. They don't realize. Um Is God mocked? God's not mocked. No, he's not.

The third thing he said, there was the pride of life, pride of life. That deals with your spirits. That deals with your spirits. And so How do you What are what are some things that um Um Pride is the area that really hits men harder than women. What are some of the things that would that would cause you to be prideful?

Um probably career accomplishments, you know, your your degrees, you know. things, you know, that are all about you, I guess. All right. Where do we have let's ask let's ask Style is Hey Style! In the Bible, what what is it the Bible says uh that we have to be proud of.

Nothing. You're right. Absolutely nothing because Um Every good feature that we have, every characteristic every attribute, everything that's good. Where does it come from? God That's right.

Because Did we could we choose who our parents would be? No. Could we choose whether we would be born male or female? No. Okay.

Could we choose whether we w we would be born healthy or we'd be born without arms and legs like some little babies actually were. No, we we don't decide that.

Okay, so now could we choose whether or not we were We're smart. or were were handsome, were pretty, All of these things That that was wasn't up to us. That was b by the grace of God, wasn't it? Right. And so We really have nothing to be proud of, but we have everything to be thankful for, huh?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. So so when it comes to pride, Who was the very first One that committed the sin of pride. Oh Adam Adam. Nope, it was Satan. Uh right yeah.

Yeah, he was the first one. The committed a sin of pride.

Okay, and so then we go to here. He says Little children, it is the last time. And as you have heard that the Antichrist shall come. Even now there are many Antichrist, whereby We know that it is the last time in the He's ref he's referring to specific the last part of the six well, he's re actually referring to the sixth dispensation period, the church age.

Now, the verse that we were talking about earlier, the one that applies to so many things today. They went out from us, but they were not of us, for had they been of us they would no doubt have continued with us, But they were went out with us, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. in the days of John where he wrote this here, uh one of the best examples of that you would find in in Hebrews chapter ten. uh where it talks about Those that 10 verses 26 to 39. And maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow.

We'll do that tomorrow because we're up against the break.

So we'll be back right after this. Yeah. I feel so certain about this faith of mine. I'm hanging in there. Doing fine.

King Jesus is a friend of mine. I'm blessed by you. Saving babies. Teaching sinners Hell's for losers, heaven's for winners This work This is not for beginners. I am blessed by you.

I'm coming home someday. Yeah. Heaven's my wife. I'm blessed by Where the saints all stay. Yeah, man.

Children play Let's buy you. Where the saints are. Walk on streets of gold. I know that I will see that. Heavenly prize.

It's no surprise. All happy. Gonna see my family again Gonna be with one lost Maybe silver. I don't know where I'm less like you. Giving treasure, preaching sinners.

Hell's for a loser, heaven's for winners. This word does not ever begin. I'm blessed by you. I'm coming home someday. Heaven's my way.

I'm blessed by you. Where the saints all stay and little children play, I'm blessed by you. Where the saints of old walk on streets of gold, I know that I will see my mansion on high, through glorified eye. How happy I'll be. Where his glory shine, there I'll abide on those golden shoulders.

I'll be satisfied. Oh, some bright day gonna fly away. It's there I'll stay. I'll be there with you, cause your words are true. I'm blessed by you.

Boy, I can't wait to walk on those golden shores. How about you, Wendy? Oh, yeah, that'll be nice. In s in style, can you can you wait? Oh yeah.

you know, here do you ever think about that uh You know I've I've had you know, dreams about that that You know, once you've left this world And all of the people there that have gone before us, all my friends, so many of them. And and you just wonder, you know, of course the Lord is gonna be there.

Okay. And then you wonder who's going to be the first people to to greet you. When you come, when you make it there, then I lost my son back in seventy four. And I know he'll be there. Yeah.

And of course. you know, all of I don't have any aunts or uncles or any of those, they've been gone for a long, long time, along with my parents. But I've really been looking forward uh to that. It's in fact so many of over fifty people now, I'm closer to sixty people that Tended our church. We'll be sitting we'll be there.

So I'm looking forward uh to doing To uh D'you ever did you ever have a dream about that, Wendy? Mm. Oh, about seeing your loved ones again? Yeah. Yeah, I have actually.

It's really something. The only thing that doesn't. You know, the Bible says will be conform to the image of of The Lord Jesus. But somehow, some for some reason, whenever I had that He's not our size. He's sitting on a throne and he's huge.

He's sitting on. And I I know that the the Bible doesn't say that, but that's the picture I get Uh, for some reason. I guess so, because God's bigger than everything, isn't He? Oh yeah. So, all right, with all of that.

Are you going to enlighten Style and me and the whole audience out there? I will try my best. I don't think we've talked about some things, the nutritional things you could do if you have a fatty liver. Have we talked about that? No, uh-uh.

Okay. Well, you've heard the term fatty liver, but it's really become an epidemic. going really strong, about 40% of Americans. Um So millions of people have Diagnosed with fatty liver disease, but some may not have an official diagnosis yet either. And not all fatty liver conditions come from alcohol consumption.

You know what, Wendy? You know what?

Some people.

Some people have just been diagnosed as fatty period. Yeah. Mm, I've heard, yes. But But a fat but pastor, a fatty liver is when the liver is really not breaking down fats effectively and it's tending to store too much fat. And there's this new research from the National Institute of Science and Technology that reported on some nutrition that helps the fatty liver.

So I thought we'd talk about that and empower some people out there. Yeah, I want to get a jump on it. Tell me how to do it. I want to prevent it.

Okay, well let's look at the culprits first that can contribute or cause. There are several reasons why a person Can get a fatty liver. Here's the list. This is just some of them. You have metabolic dysfunction.

Obesity is on the list as well as type 2 diabetes. High blood pressure, high cholesterol, excessive alcohol use. Poor diet, rapid weight loss, and some prescription meds, and we'll get to those in a minute.

So there are Medications that can create a fatty liver by accumulating in your liver itself, causing inflammation and metabolic liver damage.

So a lot of people don't understand that one of the jobs your liver has, it has to protect you from the toxicity of your prescription meds. And to do that, it will generate enzymes, and one major one is called enzyme P four50. And this is why if you're on certain meds, let's say you're on certain cardiovascular meds, you may have to go to your doctor every three months and get some blood work drawn because what they're doing is they're monitoring the liver enzymes.

So if you get elevated liver enzymes, it's an indication that They have to switch your medications. You can't take that medication anymore because the liver is in distress. And by the time you get blood work that shows elevated liver enzymes, usually the damage to the liver has happened already.

So there are medications that create fatty liver. By accumulating in the liver a lot of these toxins, these residues causing inflammation. And damage to the liver.

So here's a list of some of the medications that will do that. Steroid medications. antiviral medications. Um Tamoxifen, which is an oral hormone medication for cancer. Amoderone, which is a strong antiarthritic medication.

Methotrexate, which is an autoimmune rheumatoid arthritis chemotherapy med. Antidepressants will do it. Antipsychotic meds will do it. Baloprotic acid, which is usually used for seizures, bipolar disorders, manic depression and migraine headache type treatments.

So this is just a list of some of the things that are common that people are on. Because it's easy to see why 100 million Americans would be diagnosed with fatty liver disease if they're taking these medicines.

Now There's a study that came out in March 2026 at the National Institute of Science and Technology, and they found that niacin or vitamin B three. Helps with the metabolism and the cellular energy of the liver. And this is different than folate B9. Which tends to help with your DNA and your red blood cells.

So we want B3, B is in boy 3, the number 3.

Now the findings did get published in the March 2026 Metabolism Clinical and Experimental Journal. Here's a quote from the report. They said vitamin B3 stood out and helped restore normal fat processing pathways in the liver and improved overall lipid balance. End of quote.

Now there's some natural sources if you're looking for natural B three.

So using some natural sources of vitamins work, I think, much better than isolated synthetic versions.

So if you want to list a B3 or your niacin-rich elements in these natural sources, you will find B3 in nettle. Peanuts. Sunflower seeds. Fanny seat? Mustard seed.

Cumin seed. Your nutritional yeast flakes, very high in B3. Um, if you're looking for those, a good brand is called Red Star. Peas and beans, whole grains, avocado and potato will have your B3.

Now What about milk thistle? People ask me about that because that's usually a common herb used for the liver.

Well, milk thistle is often used to support liver function with its antioxidants like silamarin. which reduce inflammation and protects the liver cells from toxins and assists in the detoxification of your liver. Yes, you can use your B3 and you can use your milk thistle, so I would definitely use that. Yeah. Now Medical News Pastor said this, milk thistle has been used for hepatitis, cirrhosis of liver and fatty liver as well as other conditions.

So it does have a track record. You can use it if your science says it's good for fatty liver as well.

Now there are some options out there. More people today are open to some natural options rather than just taking prescription meds. And according to Statisticia 2026, they say the number of Americans open to using natural therapies has seen significant growth Between 2015 and 2025, driven by increasing shift towards holistic health and preventative care.

So people are kind of wanting to be proactive in their health, which I applaud them for. And they want to prevent things from happening down the road.

So they're looking for those those steps, those kind of things that are easy for them to do, they're natural and are wholesome and organic.

So that kind of type of health care is what people are looking for more today.

Now according to the published statistics, there is a significant change in how Americans approach health in 2025 compared to back in 2015.

So in 2015, about a third of adult Americans were using natural therapies for wellness, but in 2025, 40% of Americans were seeking natural therapies to maintain their health.

So you've got to remember, people take supplements. to stay well. A majority of them take them to stay well and not get sick.

So they're using it proactively as a preventative.

Now statisticia also goes on to say many consumers today are seeking alternatives to conventional medicine with one-third already engaging in these methods. Actually, consumer interest is likely closer to 50% of the population when you're considering general openness to holistic care. They additionally add, the growth is driven by younger consumers like Gen Zs and millennials. And older adults are seeking pain management and healthy aging solutions with a significant increase in the use of meditation, yoga, herbal supplements and so on.

So people are kind of shifting a little bit. I don't know if you've noticed it. Have you noticed that? Yeah, I have, and I think I know one of the reasons why is what happened with COVID. Uh people have they don't they do not The trust in the medical profession has really declined a lot.

And you know, with all of the research and everything that's come out, you find out what you know. That these these MDs who know very, very little bit about the the drugs that they're prescribing, uh they're doing it because they're they're told. uh that this is the drug you prescribe. And uh people have been betrayed, you know, that w with the Um COVID shot. You know, so many more many more people died from the what the shot.

I'm not going to call it a vaccine than that died from the COVID.

So have you heard the have you heard the term polypharmacy? Yeah. Okay, so what that means is, you know, people are on medications, they're prescribed medications that aren't necessary. I mean, I don't know how many times I can tell you I've run into people that are on like three blood pressure medications. You know, they pretty much are doing the same thing almost, but um.

So this the statistical data is kind of showing that eighty to ninety million adult Americans in twenty fifteen were looking into natural wellness therapies outside of their conventional health care. But in 2025, that data shows 100 million adult Americans are actively using natural therapies to get well and to stay well.

So the data also is showing that Even higher numbers of Americans are open to using another form of health care involving nutrition. and medicinal plants.

Now, in December 2025, the National Library of Medicine Center for Biotechnology reported that in seven studies what they wanted to know the what was the interest in complementary and alternative medicine compared to natural self-help remedies. And they reported that these types of wellness practices are being added to even conventional health care worldwide.

So there are some significant differences.

So across your board here in a 12-year span, the interest in complementary alternative medicine, or CAM for short, actually has declined. I don't know if you remember, I think it was a big deal in 2010 where people were going to complementary alternative medicine. Do you know what kind of medicine that is? No. Okay, so that was like your regular M D s?

And they would also have within the practice people or MDs that had some knowledge of natural Solution care for things.

So, in other words, they still could prescribe you antibiotics. Um or but you know they could also send you a bo send you over to the store to get a bottle of echinacea, but um it it it was kinda limited in the scope.

So it was a lot of people complained that it was almost just like going to the regular doctor, so they really didn't see a big difference there.

So, um Now across the board, that's what's happening. There's a decline. I mean, we're talking worldwide. There's a decline in your complementary alternative medicine care. And this is a conventional medicine practice, like I said, trying to incorporate more natural options or treatments.

So your complementary alternative medicine is often used alongside your standard Western health care practices And th these are MDs trying to use you know, nutrition, medicinal appliance to treat their patients. The problem is they are really not trained in this type of wellness therapy and patients are seeing this.

Okay, they're comparing them to holistic doctors, naturopaths, herbalists, you know. They they really are limited in that scope.

So There is a significant interest, though, in the growth of at the same time expanding self-help therapies using natural remedies. People want to be empowered, Pastor. They want to find things that are natural, non-toxic, and that will do the job. Let me ask you a question, okay, because with uh with RFK now, Here and he he leans more in the area of natural herbs. He leans in that area.

And so, you know, in a lot of states Uh holistic medicine is illegal. In fact, I think in Tennessee, in fact, in Tennessee, I believe. That uh if you get caught uh practicing that, you could go to jail, okay? Um yeah. I mean I have I have uh some people I know in Tennessee and there's really not much available there.

Um you can get some herbal teas and stuff, but you really won't find, you know, cleansing kits or tinctures. Um they're complaining about that. Um so they're having to order it, you know, from another place, usually outside their state. Um and I I will concur that I I I will confir confirm that. Yeah, some of these holistic um physicians and naturopaths Um They may have started out, let's say, in Connecticut in their career, and then all of a sudden the state kind of changed and said, nope, you can't practice here.

And they usually wound up moving down to Florida. And then they were in Florida for a number of years, and then Florida, for some reason, kicked them out, too. Florida, I think, now is welcoming the natural wellness professionals back.

So, yeah, it just depends on who's, you know, controlling the government in that state and what you have a lot of them here in Ohio. We have a lot of them here in Ohio. Uh uh you know natural herbal uh Um vitamin stores, you know. where they have um you know natural herbal stores out there.

So uh Yeah, I mean that that's growing. I'm just wondering because I knew That uh more and more people are going into back to natural herbs, back to and I'm just wondering, you know.

Well, think think about that. If it you know, um Uh if if you get if you got to get some prescriptions and they're outside your budget, I mean, then yeah, you're going to be looking for other options, aren't you?

Well, I I I look for the other options. I g I go all natural anyhow, you know that, because I don't I don't trust Big Pharma at all, okay? Uh, you know, I remember Pharmakea. Do you know what that means, right? Yeah, witchcraft.

Witchcraft. And that's what so much of it is. It is actual witchcraft in there. Uh you see what it's done to people. I mean, we've we've did a horrible a lot of horror stories on, uh with people taking these drugs, especially the COVID shock, w what it's done to people.

But, you know, uh with these other vaccines too, I mean Uh, just you know, terrible, terrible things. I don't, uh, I go look. God gave us the natural herbs. Who am I talking to? I'm talking to you, right?

So who knows what he was doing? Does God or Big Farmer? I'll go with God on that, right? Yes, you know, and and people want to, but a lot of times I hear, well, I just not sure what to use and how to use it.

Well, you know, that's why people like us are around. We we kind of help you figure that out and educate yourself. And before you know, it's just like tying your shoes or brushing your teeth. You know, you just is a little bit of a learning curve at first. When you were a toddler, how many times you practice tying your shoe, right?

So you'll get there. Um it's it's not scary. Um herbs you know are kind of um Chemistry the chemistry in them is basically from God and it works well with the human body because it's chemically balanced.

So you need buffer alkaloids, minerals and vitamins and amino acids and all this stuff. And God did that in our plants, and so that's why they work so well. I had a A young I'll tell you a story, I had a young woman, she was um my doctor, okay. And she was uh young, not that that old. I think she was just maybe in her early thirties, okay.

Okay. And, you know, she was 110%, you know, she would want to give me prescribed these drugs. And I said, I don't want, I don't do those. And I told her about you know, I take natural herbal medicines and sh she said, Well, you know, You gotta understand some of those people are quacks, okay? Ha ha ha ha!

Well, I mean, okay, so like I I find that hilarious because Um, what would you call the COVID shot?

Well, that's what I'm what I'm talking about. But anyhow, but here's the thing. And this woman, this was a VA the VA uh doctor. And here This colonel came in uh who was in charge of the the hospital there where she's at. And she I mean, she thought the the sun rose and set on this guy.

This guy had this sterling reputation of being a real genius, right? And so and she was telling me about the old th this guy I mean he's wonderful.

So the next time I come see her, she said, I've got to I've got to ap apologize to you. I said, Why? She said, Well, you know, what you were talking about, uh, the the natural herbs This turnel come in, and And that's when he he advises people to get away from the drugs and go to their natural herbs. She said And this guy she said he is he's brilliant. And She said, So I'm I'm rethinking my whole position on all that.

But uh Yeah, I had an interesting encounter. Um I had to call tech support on a program platform we were using and Um this guy comes on and um he's very nice, he's chatty while he's helping me fix something and um and uh he comes to tell me that he's retired from his you know, former occupation. I said, Oh, what was that? And he says, I was a general practitioner. I said, Oh, you were an M D he goes, Yeah And he went on to say he was angry that it was at the end of his career he figured it out that he was just a pill pusher for the pharmakea.

And it made him mad. He says, you know, if I were to do it all over again, I would go into natural medicine. Yeah. And I'm like, wow. Um, but do you do you know who uh invented the pharmacy, Pastor?

I think it was the devil. Peace. Oh, you're close. Um well, it was the Arabs. They they the Arab scholars and physicians in the eighth and ninth century invented or w our modern concept of the pharmacy.

Hmm, that's interesting.

Okay. So Anyhow. Uh I'll stick with the natural herbs. I'll st I'll I'll stick with what God gave us.

Well, I mean, if if you read your Bible, like you o obviously do, And God can't lie and every word is a living word in there and it's the truth, so why wouldn't you believe God when He says, you know, herbs are here for the service of man and the healing of the nations? Not only that, but God's the healthiest person I've The ever known it. Absolutely, totally healthy, right? Never a sick day from that guy. But if you're not God out there, folks, and you're like me.

and from time to time you get sick you need to k you need to get Right with the natural herbs, the powerherbs.com, and from the apothecary herbs. And I'm going to give you Wendy's phone number. You ready? It's eight six six two two nine three six six three. That's eight six six two two nine three six six three.

or just go to the powerherbs.com And give yourself a plug, Wendy.

Well, sure. We have milk thistle. If you're looking for some things also to perk up and cleanse organs, we have herbs for that. We tend to specialize in immune boosting, organ cleansing, and metabolic strengthening. We typically don't have pills.

We have liquids and powders, so you don't have to swallow pills. And we have a free catalog like Pastor mentioned, which I believe will empower you.

So give us a call. Yeah. It is it's a very, very good catalogue. I mean, it's really interesting you've got on on the back of it um a lot of folks that Just wrote, you know, how your natural herbs has helped them so much.

So, some of them from right here from Ohio, one from Medina, one from Cleveland, one from Akron. Wow, you're getting a lot, so Yeah, a lot of Ohioans are are on our list, absolutely. I wonder how they found out about you. Ah, majority are of them through your network there, Pastor.

So we thank you so much. All right. Well, I thank you so much for having, you know, for coming and educating us all at the wheel. I know that you you want to get your uh beauty rest, but you're welcome to stay with Style and I 'cause we're gonna have lightning rounds. Um, but I can see I know you already told me you Yeah, but I'm I'm kinda nursing my right eye right now.

Um so yeah, I'll have to take a rain check.

Alrighty.

Well, thank you so much for joining us. You're always a blessing when you're here. We always learn so much. And I've got you know, I've got that milk thistle and and I was wondering what that would be good for. Uh and now I know, so uh Uh maybe I'll st it's been setting there for quite a while, so I might start taking a drop or full of that now and then.

You would recommend that? Yeah, I mean you could d definitely take you know like a maintenance dose. I would. Or you know, you could do it for you know cleansing if you want to take a week or two and focus on cleansing. You could do it for that length of time.

Okay. Hi Tai, Wendy, I'm out of time. Again, thanks for being here. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.

Bye-bye. God bless. We love you. Have a good night. We'll be back right after this, folks.

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