The trial of Owen and Martin Kilbane

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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening, and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this. Eighth day of april, twenty twenty six. And boy, do we have a lot to get to to night.

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Okay, let's get right into the scripture. Remember the title was He paid a debt he didn't know. For those who owed a debt they could never pay. and we're going to pick it up where we left off. In Luke chapter 24, Now upon the first day of the week, very nearly in the very early in the morning, they came into the sepulchre.

bringing spices that they had prepared Certain others with them. and they found that stone rolled away from the sepulchre, And they entered in and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. And it came to pass that there were Much perplexed thereabout behold, Two men stood by them in shining gardens.

Now there's a l a lot of controversy Because you have Uh in the different Gospels Different descriptions. And they're all right. It's just that Uh people you know, uh presented the writers wrote about what they saw Um or you know, who was there, what they saw with their own eyes, or from their point of view. And uh you know, it it's all everything is true. But it it's they sometimes they they don't write all of what they saw.

Sometimes than just par a part of it. Uh here now Luke was known for something. What was Luke known for style, do you know? I don't know.

Well, Luke was a physician. He was known for one who was a doctor, but He was known for being accurate, having absolute accuracy, All first hand, all first hand professions, first hand witnessing. And Yeah. You find that out. If you When you start out in the book of Luke and He wrote the book of Acts.

And you you see Well, let me just take you back here, and I'm going to just go back to Luke chapter 1. Forasmuch as you have taken in hand to set forth an order, a declaration, of those things which are most surely believed among us, even as they delivered them unto us, from which from the beginning were eye witnesses and ministers for the word, It seems good to me having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first to write unto thee, In order, most excellent Theophilus.

So So he was known for being very accurate of all the the details, the facts. and o only first hand testimony. And now here There's a lot of controversy when it says And it came to pass that there were two perplexed Are too perplexed throughout behold. No, let me start again. It came to pass as they were very much perplexed thereabout, Behold, two men stood by them in shining garments.

Now How do you how do we know that these two men were angels? I don't know what other shiny garments we'd be referring to. Yeah, that would be. And so. Several places in Scripture, angels are referred to as men, and men referred to as angels.

Angelus, the word in the Greek, means simply messenger. For example, and the same thing in the Old Testament. In the Old Testament, remember when Gabriel, the angel Gabriel, came to Daniel, and he told Damiel, I was despatched on the very first day, that you prayed But the Prince of Persia held me up. That was the Satan, okay. held him up.

A lot of people think that might have been the old Ayatollah. No. It was a whether you know it or not, Persia to day is called Iran. But uh hardly anybody knows that too.

Sometimes it gets frustrating. you know, biblical literacy really Well, it's frustrating. And so here And as they were afraid, well, in that case, when Gabriel came. He's referred to in Daniel as the man Gabriel, the man Gabriel. but he was an angel, and then If you go over to Revelation chapter 3, the seven churches there, The seven angels are actually the seven pastors of the church.

There. Pastors referred to as angels. And as they were afraid and bowed down their faces to the earth, They said unto them, Why seek you living among the dead. He is not here. but has risen.

Remember how he spake unto you that he Was yet in Galilee saying the son of man must Be delivered into the hands of sinful men. and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

Now the Lord Jesus had told them three times He he made it clear that he he would have to be crucified. and then he would rise again on the third day. Um But it but it wasn't it didn't register with him. I just never registered with them. And so And they remembered his words.

and returned from the sepulchre and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. and it was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, with on other women.

Well, there was another Mary there, And that was uh the wife of Cleophas. She was was there also And which told these things unto the apostles. and their words seemed to them as idle tales. that they believe them not. Old wives' toes they referred to as they b they believed them not.

They thought, well, You know Uh A lot of times Uh in those days uh in in many, many ways Women were not taken very seriously and Boy, I betcha they're glad. I'd rather have the women of that day than some of em of this day, I can tell you that. But um And so here, in fact, did you know that In some cases and a lot of times they're They weren't even allowed to testify. They would have to take the testimony of two or three women to Uh and that's the way it is in with Islam. And so here And the words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.

Then arose Peter and ran into the sepulchre and stooped down. he beheld the linen clothes and laid by themselves, and departed wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.

Okay. No. The here From this time, remember, Peter was the only one that stayed with him. You know, when he was arrested and brought in.

Well To the Sanhedrin. But Peter had denied him three times but then when the Lord Jesus had turned and looked upon Peter, After the cock crowed. Then I believe that's where Peter was saved. And behold, two of them that went Two of them that went the same day to a village called Emaeus. which reached from Jerusalem about three score furlings Do you know how much three score furlings are?

I don't. I mean, if somebody came up to you and said, Hey, uh Well, s a score is ten years, right? No, oh no. Three score furlings and as And no, the score is twenty years. Twenty, my bad.

Yeah, but th this here So it's twenty So three times twenty furlongs Actually it comes out to about eight miles about eight miles. And so And the two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about three score furlings. and they talked together of all these things which had happened. And as they came to pass That while they were Commune together. and reasoned Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.

And that was that was Well Cleopas and his wife Mary and they lived there in Emma. But their eyes were holding That they should not know him, in other words. Can you think of another time in Scripture where Uh they were looking for Jesus and couldn't see him. It was the first time he got up to preach, and he said this day. and they they picked up stones to throw at him.

And he walked right through right through the mob. And they and what he made himself invisible. And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that you Have one to another as you walk, and enter sad. I don't know.

I kind of. If I'm walking with my wife, And we're talking and a complete stranger came up And Ask me that, I'd be a little I don't know, suspicious, I guess. Wouldn't wouldn't you? Yeah, that's some interesting behaviour. Yeah.

And so And one of them whose name was Cleopas, answered in said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem? and has not known the things which are come to pass, There in these days? And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth. which was a prophet mighty in deed and word.

Before God and And all the people. And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned. to death and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel, And beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done. Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early in the sepulchre, And when they found out his body, they came saying, that he had also seen the visions of angels, which said that he was alive.

And certain of them which were with us went and. to the sepulchre and found it even So as the women had said, But him they saw not. Then he said unto them, O fools and slow of heart, to believe All the prophets have spoken. Here, you know, he's he's making a point. You know, the resurrected Lord.

Confirmed. the doctrine of inspiration. It was foolish and wrong hearted to reject anything written in the Old Testament. They had all of the Old Testament to read. And to be taught.

And all of the prophets in the Old Testament that spoke of the Lord Jesus. Only one place where The Lord is not mentioned And do you know what book that is? The one book where the Lord's not mentioned? What's that? Esther Esther Ought not Christ to have suffered these things?

And to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them and all the Scriptures, the things concerning himself? And they drew nigh into the village. Whither they went. And he made no way as though he would have gone further.

Okay. What what what do you think by now?

Okay, you're walking down, you and your wife, you're walking down the road, here comes this fellow up. You told him what what had just happened 'cause he wanted to and then This guy's tellin' you Yeah. Let me read that again. Ought not Christ to have suffered all these things to enter into his glory and beginning of Moses and all the prophets. expounding unto them in all the Scriptures, The things concerning him.

And So here he's He's kinda in a way he's chastising him in a way. He said, And then he said unto them, Old fools and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken.

So, okay, you're walking down the road here with your wife. Here this fella comes up out of no place. You told him what happened, and he he starts preaching to you. And he's preaching with it with authority.

So now what are you thinking now, style? Trying to figure out who this guy is and if he knows me somehow or what he's talking about to me for. All right. And they and they drew nigh unto the village whither they went, and he made as though he would have gone further. But they constrained him, saying abide with us for it's toward evening, And the day is far spent.

and he went in to tarry with them. And it came to pass as he said it meet, With them. He took bread, and he blessed it, and he broke it, and he gave it to them. and their eyes were opened, and they knew him.

So all of a sudden, boom, You're sitting there you're taking Oh, well, you're breaking bread. He broke the bread. They would have seen him do that many times, right? Right. Their eyes are open and they realize they recognize it's Him.

This is the Lord. He's here.

Okay. And he vanished out of their sight. Boy, that would have been frustrating, wouldn't it? I mean, at about this time, don't you think they'd have about a million questions for him? Just about.

Yeah. And they said to one another, did not our heart burn within us? while he talked with us, by the way. and while he opened to us the Scriptures, And as they rose the same hour and returned to Jerusalem, and they found the eleven gathered together. And them that were with them Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.

And they told the things which were done in the way, and how he was known of them in the breaking of bread. And as they spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, And he said unto them, Peace be with you. And they were terrified and they were affrighted and supposed that they had See the spirit. And it's And he said unto them, Why are you troubled and why do the thoughts arise in your heart? What we see this happening several times Uh in scripture where a door opens And the Lord steps out.

Uh we seat it up on uh The Mountain with Moses, in a cloud where a door opens It's a different dimension. It's a different dimension. God steps out. We see it here in the upper room, where all of a sudden As the door opens and he steps out, he appears right in front of him. And so here And when he had spoken he showed them his hands and his feet.

Oh no, he let me I went back I missed the verse. And he says, Why are you troubled, and why do your thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet. that it is I myself handle me and see for a spirit. have not flesh and bones as you see me have Okay.

Why do you think most people would have said flesh and blood, flesh and blood, right? I mean, that's. Why do you think he said flesh and bones? I'm not sure.

Well, because he he's He spilt all of his blood in Calvary. All of his blood. There is no blood in heaven. In on earth the life is in the blood, but in heaven, okay, it's in Christ. And so there's there's no blood allowed in heaven.

And so he tells you this. Uh And while they yet believe not for joy in and wondered He said unto them, Have you any meat? and they gave him a piece of broiled fish. and a honeycomb. and he took it and did eat before them.

And he said unto them, Okay, so. What does that tell you when he just did by the f By the act that he took the fish in the honey bone comb and ate it, What does that tell you? About our future and glory. I'm not sure.

It tells you we'll we'll be able to eat, okay. We'll be eating. We can eat. And we know that anyhow. Why?

Well, because you have. the trees that grow twelve different types of fruit. And that and uh tho on those trees are fruit bears uh twelve months out of a year. And so Here now. And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you.

while I was yet with you. All these things must be fulfilled which were written in The law of Moses and in the prophets, and in the And in the Psalms concerning me. And he opened their understanding that they might understand the Scriptures. And he said unto them, This is written And thus it behoved Christ to suffer and rise from the dead on the third day.

Now again Here And he said, Thus it is written, and it behoved Christ to suffer and to rise again. On the third day, And the repentance and remission of sins should be preached. In his name. among all nations beginning at Jerusalem.

So that is called the Great Commission. The Great Commission where he goes out preaching, teaching, Uh people Uh and baptizing in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. And so He goes on to say, and you are. The witnesses of these things And behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you. but tarry you in the city of Jerusalem, and be endowed with the power from on high.

So The problem is Was the promise of the Holy Spirit, right? The promise of his Father. A promise uh made to the disciples at the upper room before the crucifixion. Christ also had told them that he was It's sending them out into the world. Remember John twenty, twenty one?

But first they must be Caution to wait until the promised spirit is sent, to empower them for the service, And that was going to be what do we call that? Acts chapter 1. The day of Pentecost, huh?

So he goes on to say And he led them as far as Bethany, And he lifted up his hands and he blessed them. And it came to pass that while he Bless them he was parted from them, and he carried up into heaven. and as they worshipped him he returned to Jerusalem. As they worshipped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. and were continually in the temple praising and blessing.

God. Amen. And With that we're going to go to uh break. We'll be right back. Yeah.

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Face the flag, son. And thank God it's still there. Right. That was the Duke. That was John Wayne.

John Wayne. He was one terrific actor. I I loved uh watching his movies. He He won the Civil War force going back and even before that, the War of Independence. When it came to World War One he He was a Siabini drover.

A drove of bulldozer down and defeated a bunch of Japanese soldiers. And then. When he got to World War II.

Well Guadaliquanel And he Also uh flew in fighter jets. Then came Korea. He was still fighting, didn't miss a war. Yeah. And then he He won he he did the Green Beret And he won.

He defeated the North Koreans In Vietnam. No, no. It wasn't the North Koreans or Vietnam, the Viet Me North Vi Viet Mines. That was John Wayne. What a history that fellow had, but he was one terrific actor, one terrific actor.

And you know what? He never knew a good Democrat. You hear that style?

Sorry for being so close-minded, John Wayne. Anyhow. Uh we got a lot listen, I got something to do here. Every now and then, we have one of your local businesses. that will give exceptional service and I got one here.

This guy's like a hero. He really is. Bill Dornbick. He runs Newberry Printing. And folks, New Berberry Printing, their office is six inches through the wall from the Communist Party headquarters in Newberry.

And Bill in his in his window, in his front window, you gotta see this, his his office is His shop is right next door to the Communist Party headquarters. And he's got a big picture of a beautiful little baby and it says underneath The Democrats didn't get me. And of course here you had they have all their pro death, pro uh choice literature in her window and that. And then he's got Uh There's a number of gospel sites Right there and boy, I'm going to tell you, those people don't they hate God. They really hate God there.

And so, in fact, We uh our church went down there and protested out in front of their office for some of the wicked things that they were doing. But anyhow Newberry Pritting, he gives you excellent work. The work is excellent. It's on time. It's always done right.

He has newsletters, brochures, envelopes, business cards, invoices, labels, and more, a lot, lot more. And if you wanted to go to a Christian business, Christian printing operation. whose prices are good whose work is excellent, I would tell you to go over to Newberry Pritting. And uh The phone numbers there Newberry Pritting are Uh four four zero eight three four zero seven two eight. That's four four zero eight three four zero seven two eight and the address is one two four two four.

Kinsman Road Actually He's right at the corners of Route eighty seven and Route forty four Route eighty seven and Route forty four.

So there you go. I'm gonna do um A little different tonight. And that is um Uh Something that happened some years ago. In I believe in justice. I really believe in justice and there were two brothers.

Um Owen and Marty Kilbane.

Now Owen and Marty Kilbane when we were young I didn't Run around with them, but we ran around with some of the same people. In other words, we hung around with some of the. Yeah, same people when you know, young people do. But Owen and Marty decided that they were going to be um the Irish Mafia or whatever. And I'm talking about as teenagers, I'm talking about the ages of seventeen, eighteen and nineteen.

These two brothers were out there on their own. and uh they got themselves into the rackets. And Here They had formed an alliance with a corrupt judge, And just like today, there was a whole bunch of them back there in that day too. And I'm going to just kind of read here. I've gotta find it again.

Yeah Some of what is going on because these men have been in prison for fifty years. For fifty years And they should have they they shouldn't have done more. then five years. They were involved And let me just read to you. Because I know the whole story.

I've been their pastor. for all these years now.

So I'm going to start out With out of a newspaper article. And the title of it was They've Done Their Time. FBI agent Robert, the wrestler, Help put the Kilbane brothers away.

Now after And and this was written twenty-five years ago, by the way.

So now after more than twenty five years He and others say The steel murder co-conspirators have earned their freedom. An article by Ted Wending. They've done their time. For Uh and now it's been for actually fifty years.

Well, according to the article that was written twenty five years ago, For twenty years Owen and Martin Kilbane had lied. To law enforcement authorities. In 1969, they lied after being indicted. on charges of first degree murder. And in nineteen seventy six They continue to like even being Uh even being imprisoned.

So it was with a mixture of surprise and curiosity that FBI agent Robert Yes, sir, we received a letter from Owen Kilbayne in the fall of nineteen eighty nine. Set from The Grafting Correctional Institution of Lorain County. Unwrestler's office. Uh At the FBI Here The unit is uh I mean there's some of the behavioral science unit At Glantella Quantico, Virginia. Owen's letter.

said that he and his brother were finally ready to tell the truth, And that they wanted to wrestle to hear it. First. Then in nineteen sixty nine and in nineteen uh two nineteen seventy six, wrestler had pursued the Kilbanes like a A later date, an inspector Chauvere. A wrestl wrestler had become obsessed with the young Irish gangsters, And they're A mentor. Euclid Municipal Judge Robert L.

Steele. And he had hounded them until they had and they were convinced and sentenced in nineteen seventy seven to fifteen years to life. for their roles in the Cont Uh Contract murder of the judge Judge's wife, Marlene, Marlene Steele. During their nineteen seventy seven trial. A Martin Well, uh they're showing pictures.

An' owin remained fiercely loyal to Judge Steele, denying their Complicity in the murder of of the judge's wife. Twenty-six years later, having Uh Let's hear And more contrition Yeah. Barton and Owen openly acknowledged their guilt. I believed in this deal. I believed in steel, but Back then.

My loyalty was misguided and misdirected, Now it was directed in a positive way, says Owen. I'm going to stop right there and because, see, I've known these guys for all this time. And what To make a long, long story short, there's a lot involved. And sometimes you just get involved in things Totally unaware, totally, and that's happened to me over the years. That's why we've done all of these.

They see these Uh I got myself involved in the Maryland Shepherd murder case, okay? Uh Uh, because I was the pastor Of of some of the men that were charged with that murder, okay. Over the years, and I actually had them on the radio program. But in this case, With Owen Martin, they were just young bucks. I mean nineteen and twenty year olds Uh at this time And Here's what happened in that, okay?

Uh And this is what, as being their pastor, I'm going to tell you. What What I got directly from Owen Barley. That uh They hear Judge Steele wanted to divorce his wife. Marine. She didn't want a divorce.

And he had another girlfriend. And what happened was You know, the the judge, you know, uh Owen and Marty, they ran like a a prostitution racket there in Cleveland. even as young guys and what also what they would do As for the prostitutes, If they were mistreated by pimps, Then they would hold a court. And um They were good friends with Danny Green. All of this goes back at that time.

and they would hold a court, and the pimps would be brought in, and they they would hear their case, and if the pimp pimps had mistreated the prostitutes Um Then they would get they would get fined. for doing that and the prostitutes would be Uh you know, would be paid would be Mm-hmm. But anyhow, so they were known for for that and and other things. But What happened was Judge Steele wanted to wanted a divorce. His wife didn't want to divorce him.

Now what I'm telling you is what I was told over the years And actually it was pretty much all in In this article that I just read from. But um And they also made They also made films back in these are young, I just uh, you know, they were two young books You know, just uh You know Going off in the wrong direction. It seems. And back in those days, Myself was kind of a wild guy too, although I wi I didn't get involved in that, but But um So Judge Steele came to them to Owen and said, Look, My I I w I need to divorce my wife, she won't divorce me. And um And so I want I want you to kill her.

And Uh Owen says, No, we don't do that. I don't we don't do that. And so he says, Well, He said, Do you know anybody that would do that? Because you see, if I go down. My wife knows everything.

She knows all about our Uh relationships, what we're doing, how I I'm helping, you know, how you guys Yeah. Uh I help you get away with your crimes, and so on and so forth. And so He Owen had told him, Yeah, I know a guy. That um He'd do anything for money. And So when said, Here's his phone number But that that was that was the extent of Owen's involvement.

Now these in this in this whole case He gave him the phone number. That was wrong to do that, okay? That was wrong to do that. He shouldn't have done that. But he's been in prison for fifty years.

Folks, think about that.

Now the guy That did the killing who's called Ricky Robbins. Ricky Robbins. No. I ran into Ricky Robbins a couple of times. If to look at Ricky Robbins, you know He was a strange looking fellow and Uh I'm trying to think of just He kind of reminded me.

There was a comedian back in those days, a comedian, a young guy that. that wore a little bow tie. He wore this little bouton. I can't think of his name off hand, but He reminded me of him. And so one day I went up to pick up some printing at Cleveland.

And as I was walking down the stairs, he was coming up the stairs. And He grabbed me by the arm. He said, Guess what I just did? And uh I says, What did you just do? And he said I just Beat a black man.

He didn't use the word black man. He used the N-word, but he said, I just beat a out of a A drug deal. I've got the the drugs and the money. And I said, Oh, I said, Well, how did you do that? He said I killed him.

Now, like I said, you'd have to look at him. If you looked at him Here's a guy that you know he would think Well, I mean, and I and I see how I think it I sure you did, and I'm the lone ranger and uh So I so I just w went on went on my way. And uh Here the next morning I'm sitting, drinking a cup of coffee, watching the morning news. And I find out that I see. That right under where I was standing, right under where I was standing.

They found a man shot to death. And I thought, could this possibly be? Could he have. possibly done that, okay.

Well Sure enough. Uh, he was arrested. He he he got caught. He got arrested.

Okay, somebody's seen him. And Another time Not only did he kill Marlene Steele. But and did he kill that that fellow under the stairway? But there was a guy named Brown, and I think it was HRAP or something like that. And He had come.

Uh up lady and I Kind of a uh Protests march. There of Cedar Hill over by the Night Town restaurant there. and New Cleveland. And I wasn't there, but people that told me about what he had done Uh according to what I was told, and like like I said, I didn't there I wasn't there, so I didn't see it. I'm just going by this is what I was told.

But that he stood at the top of the hill and he was and he had a bullet. and he had carved a B in the boat, and he was telling the people up there black people That when he comes up the hill, I'm going to shoot him in the head with this. And they were all laughing at him. He did. He did.

Well, to make a long, long story short, folks. Uh They of course he got arrested. And he, um He cut a deal. with the feds. He cut a deal.

He said, I'll give you a judge and I'll give you the Kilbane brothers if I walk.

So that's right. And they went for it. The guy that did the killings That actually did the killings. All the Kilbain brothers did was give out a phone number. And I think I think uh O'Marty might have dropped him off.

Uh There in in the neighborhood where Steele lived. But that was it. Owen was when it wasn't even around. All he did was give a phone number.

Now, you say, Well, okay, that's still aiding in the betting. But fifty even the FBI agent, it was Wesler, came and said. that they these guys and this was after they'd been in prison for twenty years. Wester said that they should have been out a long time ago. No.

Let me just say this too, because it's not right, and there's a lot of corruption. I've seen so many guys we've helped to get off of death row who were found innocent. because the prosecutor was hiding evidence. There's been a lot of innocent people. Because you have to understand we have a very corrupt judicial system today.

And so Uh here Again, like I said, even the FBI agent. after twenty years said those guys should be out of prison. He wrote a letter to the courts asking them and the governor did to uh to let him out. And they're still in prison.

Now while they've been in prison, They took uh courses in the Red Red Cross courses Uh On life saving, all the life saving Um things and and while they were in prison They performed C P or C R P or whatever. On a number of inmates. And saved their lives while they were in prison. And they taught that. They have an absolute excellent record in prison.

Owen teaches classes, teaches courses, and Uh In prison? for men to try to prepare 'em for for when they get out. I mean, and and again, like I said, Uh these guys, they're not the same. Not to say men who they're you know Pushing eighty years old now. Uh and They never should have been.

They should have been out years and years. They've been warehoused. And it's just not a just thing.

So Anyhow, I needed to get that. get that said out there, folks. People need to know about it and Governor might de wind before he. leaves office, should pardon them. And uh you know, maybe I'll do that.

Maybe I'll give his phone number out. And maybe even tomorrow night start a campaign to have you folks call in. Those two guys should be given an opportunity not to have to die in prison. Like I said, it's it's just not right. All right.

The d the Democrats have given the Iranian leadership, according to the Iranian leadership hope, That there um that they're help that with their help, with the help of the Democrats here in America, they can defeat Through the use of a propaganda war, they can defeat President Trump. and us uh Americans through a propaganda war. And it's a little hard on him now because uh Here, the oil prices of oil plunged here. That means our park gas prices will be going down in the stock market. rallied and so the economy is getting all of a sudden is taking a turn for the better.

And uh That that's not helping those in the fake news media. Also Some other good news is the birth rates in red states are growing they're uh pretty quickly all of a sudden. But in the Blue States uh they're on a decline. What do you think that is? Style, why do you think the birth rates in the red states are growing?

In the blue states, they're on a major decline. Uh, probably statistically the Red States are more safe. It's because of abortion. The blue states kill. They kill their babies.

They kill their children.

Alrighty. Uh The Democrats are upset that Trump may end. Um That they're upset that Trump may end the war in 38 days. uh against a brutal brutal evil regime that tortures and rapes its own citizens, There's been a number of these women that have come out. from Iran that have gotten out of Iran.

They couldn't do it while they're there. And admitted how many times they had been raped as a punishment. Uh and so And and I mean just Some very horrible things very very horrible things taken place there. Uh Iran is a brutal, brutal regime. brutal regime.

Uh They have very brutal ways of killing people. And so Also With all these, the Ukrainians are experts in drones. and the Ukrainian and Japanese drones cost about two thousand dollars a drone. Russian drones, for some reason, according to the information I got. I I haven't been able to verify it, but uh from a fairly favourable source.

The Russians spent as much as fifty thousand Now, the rockets that we've been using to take down the drones, some of those rockets style cost as much as $100,000. But now they have the bullfrog. Do you know what the bullfrog is? The bullfrog Is it AI is AI built Machine gun. I mean it is a A a machine gun that just fires uh It's just unbelievable the amount of firepower that comes out of this thing.

and it's taking down drones at a cost of ten dollars. Ten dollars, there you go.

So that is making progress. I would call that progress. What do you think? Yeah, to uh We're coming up to a break, aren't we? Got about a minute and a half.

All right. Uh Now the Democrats have said that this is the worst fought war ever. These people are absolutely deranged. Never have we accomplished so much. With so few cas casualties Uh That's why they're upset, I guess.

They they I guess they probably they love death. All of those that hate God love death. Probably want more people to die. Protests are erupting in China. A lot of people don't realize that in China Uh The leadership is very, very concerned now about their own safety.

Because it's been uncovered there in China that the Chinese Communist Party. Members have officially Um Stolen more than a hundred and fifty. forty or one hundred and forty five billion dollars from the people that could have gone to the people. and and the people are up in arms. And so, one more quick one.

Fidel Castro's daughter, Elena, Fernandez is a loud voice for the change sheets of government. in Cuba. They're crying for She lives in Florida. They're asking for Cuba to become the fifty-first state. We'll be back right after this with a lot more.

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