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March 28, 2026 12:04 am

The Department of Justice and the FBI are accused of weaponizing their power and compromising their integrity under President Biden's administration. The discussion centers around the alleged corruption and abuse of authority, particularly in the context of the J6 investigation and the treatment of Republican senators. The conversation also touches on the importance of upholding constitutional rights and freedoms, including freedom of speech and the right to life, as well as the need for accountability and justice in the face of government corruption.

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All the criminal activity that took place. Are there you know And it's, you know, both in the judicial and uh, why don't we see arrest?

Well, maybe we will. We're going to play a clip. You know, Jack Smith, in fact, Jack Smith was referred to by other crooked attorneys as Crooked Jack.

Okay, that's what they called him. Um and so Him and Judge Rosberg, who violated broke the law, Why are they not in prison right now? And this is one of the questions asked. I realized that uh several thousand Attorneys has quit the De Department of Justice. But go ahead uh Take us to the clip and afterwards we'll do some commentary.

Go ahead, take her away. Yeah. Thank you. Um Let's start with the foundation. Ms.

Cleveland, Jack Smith issued nearly two hundred subpoenas, is that correct? Yes. Those subpoenas targeted over 400 Republican individuals and organizations, correct? Correct.

Okay. Many of whom had no connection to those who entered the Capitol on January 6th, correct? Absolutely. And in fact, Some of those organizations didn't even exist on January 6th. Is that correct?

It is.

So, we're not talking about a narrow investigation. We're talking about a sweeping operation. Targeting virtually the entirety of the other side politically. It was a fishing expedition.

So let's turn to the Constitution, subpoenaing the toll records of members of Congress. Does that raise serious constitutional concerns? Absolutely. And in fact, we have the PIN, who notified the Special Counsel's Office of those concerns, and Jack Smith. Had apparently said that he was going to consult with The A Solicitor General, according to the release of the information from Senator Grassley this morning.

Yet, when he was deposed by the House and was specifically asked if he spoke with the Solicitor General, he said, On this discrete issue, no. Among other issues, it raises significant issues with the speech and debate clause, correct? Absolutely. So much so that as you noted, when Jack Smith subpoenaed ATT to get my toll records, ATT refused to comply with the subpoena because they concluded that it violated the speech and debate clause. Is that correct?

Absolutely correct, and they backed down. Jack Smith did not try to enforce that subpoena, did he? He did not. He did not go to court and litigate the matter, did he? He did not.

Does that suggest, as it does to me, that he knew damn well what he was doing was illegal and would not be upheld in court? It does suggest that. When the federal government subpoenas donor lists, internal communications, organization records. Does that implicate the First Amendment and also Freedom Association in particular? It does, and the Supreme Court made that clear in the NAACP case.

Ms. Chamberlain. Aside from the legal violations, What specific crimes if any, were actually uncovered as a result of the Arctic Frost investigation. I'm not aware of any crimes that were uncovered. Would the senators, donors, organizations, and individuals who were surveilled and subpoenaed?

Have ever learned about the Arctic Frost investigation had Trump not won in 2024? Probably not, mainly because of these nondisclosure orders, but also the fact that a lot of these records are we're now just learning about them because they were in these prohibited access files, only available to the FBI director.

So if the FBI director is a Democrat, there's no reason to think we know about them. How would you compare the scope? uh of the violations in Arctic Frost to Watergate? I think, if anything, it might even be greater. I mean, the scope of this, in terms of the sheer number of people and organizations affected.

And as I discussed, I mean, this brazen violation of attorney-client privilege, wiretapping a phone call between Susie Wiles and her lawyer, these are egregious offenses. And if Watergate was just about a single break-in, I mean, this is effectively compound that by 200. All right, Mr. O'Leary, I appreciate your service. One of the things you testified is you said, quote, the effectiveness and legitimacy of the FBI depend on its independence from political influence.

I very much agree with that, and I will say, as an alumnus of the Department of Justice, I am deeply saddened, and frankly, I'm angry. that under President Biden, The Department of Justice and the FBI were weaponized, and its integrity badly, badly compromised. You are right. That's how the FBI is supposed to behave and that's how the Department of Justice is supposed to behave.

So Jack Smith. was not investigating a crime based on evidence. He issued subpoenas to get the toll records. Of the following senators. Mike Lee.

Seated to my right. Josh Hawley. Lindsey Graham. John Kennedy, seated to my right. Marsha Blackburn.

Ron Johnson. Rick Scott. Bill Haggerty. Dan Sullivan. Tommy Tubber Bill.

Cynthia Lemmis. and myself. That's over 20% of the Republicans in the United States Senate. Mr. O'Leary, is it consistent with the obligations of the Department of Justice and the FBI?

To issue subpoenas with no factual basis and no legal basis. Senator, it is not. And in my experience, FBI agents would never approach a matter without the proper justification and articulable facts to open their investigation.

Okay, good.

So you said they would never do that. Judge Bozberg signed an order. I'm holding the order right here. In which he concludes, and I'm going to read, The court finds reasonable grounds to believe that such disclosure, in other words, notifying the senators on that list. will result.

In destruction of or tampering with evidence, intimidation of potential witnesses, and serious jeopardy of the investigation. Are you aware of any factual basis whatsoever? that a dozen senators will destroy evidence. I am not, but I will tell you that nondisclosure orders are a routine part of investigations. Based on facts.

Give me any hypothetical fact. By the way, do you know any facts that I will destroy evidence? Let's take it me personally. I cannot. You know, because Jack Smith went into court.

And said I will destroy evidence if I know about the subpoena. And this clown signed the order one after the other after the other. Are you aware of any basis? Look, I'm a member of the bar. I take my obligations seriously.

The FBI signed off on that. Mike Lee. Concluded he would destroy evidence. John Kennedy, well, Louisiana, maybe. I will say, I'll give a special dispensation for the great state of Louisiana.

But there is no basis. By the way, is it consistent with DOJ's obligation to also Ask a judge to violate the law and not inform the judge of it. No, it would not be.

Well, 2USC Section 6628 explicitly bars nondisclosure orders. Applying to the Senate. And yet, in the lawless Department of Justice, I assume they didn't tell Judge Bozberg, hey, we're asking you to violate the law, would you sign this? Do you assume that as well? You would have to ask the DOJ that, but you make a good point, Senator.

Thank you. You know, so here, why, you know, why aren't these people in jail? They flaunt this. They Uh this Judge Boisberg is is one Jack Smith, Uh this guy, do you know how many just about I think somebody said eighty percent of the cases he and brought before the course goth tossed out. Uh the guy has r really got a bad reputation.

And I don't know, it just seems like it's it's frustrating that we are not seeing We don't want vengeance, we want justice. We really want to see some justice take place of what happened to the J Sixers. And a lot of them are are still suffering today. They've lost so much. We just would like to see some judges.

What do you Uh, starting with you, Judge, what what do you think about all that?

Well, it it was remarkable, and you could hear that Senator Ted Cruz was Completely angered, and I would too, as a lawyer, now as a judge. where they the Judge Bozberg you know, he he's making the point that they He signed an order where The The law says you couldn't cause that order to go into effect, number one. But number two, where there was no fact to suggest that the U. S. Senate was going to destroy evidence.

Yeah, if if I had done something like that as a lawyer, I'd be in big trouble. I I I would have been up before the uh Disciplinary counsel. I could have lost my license. You know, you you could be thrown out as a judge. Yeah, it's it's an Awful abuse of the authority.

I'd like to say discretion, but I don't think people have that much discretion. That's a crime.

Well, it's like the old Chilean dictator pastorne. who who who coined the phrase Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. Right. Right. And and that's what they do.

That's exactly what they still do in Ohio too. It goes on. Just for political gain. And so, I mean, these courts, like, he's a federal court judge. Who is he responsible to?

I know he's supposed to be responsible to the people. But what court or what jurisdiction owes Regulates has authority over to remove him from the bench. Yeah, only only by through impeachment. Yeah, and you know, there is it's r rare, uh, it may have happened once. In the last 50 years.

where there's been impeachment of a federal judge. Uh but it it Rarely if if it all happens. If it does happen, just Slightly. And I was involved in the appointment of two federal judges, so I'm intimate with the process of. of that where the President ends up picking someone.

It's a very political process. completely political processed. You know, it But but no. I mean a federal judge wants to get appointed, they're appointed for life. You just hope that they've been vetted and they have a good, solid character.

uh background and history and Because there's plenty of Incredibly gifted judges that are out there on the federal bench. But, you know, they tend to pick The most political ones. to sit in these like in the DC district. that's the most politically charged.

So you want you want a partisan as a judge.

Well, it's supposed to be that, but um here They're you know, they're supposed to be independent, they're supposed to be nonpartisan, but But uh again, I mean it's just I'm they're they flaunt it. I mean they're you know this Bolsberg is you know He flaunts it. And you have these people that run like Letita James. And they run uh for office on the platform of taking down Donald Trump. You know, you have Maxane Waters.

I've heard Maxine Waters come out and say, I'm going to take him out. I'm going to take him out. And that in that word. Um talking about President Trump.

Now if somebody says they're going to take him out, Isn't that a threat? Don't you see that as a threat? But uh nothing ever happens to these people out there. Chucky Schumer threatened the Supreme Court justice. By the way, You know, I just thought of something with Ted Cruz some years ago.

When Cruz was running for president, I was invited to a political dinner. uh where you had a bunch of candidates and while I was settin' at the table, the fellow I realized sat next to me uh was Ted Cruz's father. And I had uh got I got quite a quite a bit of an education and Ted as he was growing up in his childhood, but uh That was interesting. Anyhow, what do you think, big John, about all that? Pastor Ernie, I think one of the problems with prosecuting.

These politicians like you you just mentioned. What's the chances of the G O uh D O J winning in the the DC courts With against Democrats. In other words. They they they indict here and they go to trials. And it's a Democrat congressman, let's say, Senator, someone.

what's the chances of them getting convicted In DC?

Well, I guess what is the better question would be What is the chances of the DOG, now that we have a DOJ, an actual one, legitimate one? of them uh moving the cases out of d out of uh D C uh, you know, to some place would be would be neutral. What's w how does that work, Judge?

Well, that's interesting. That's an interesting theory you have there. a change a change of venue, you know, it because someone tried that with me. And but I'm I'm the trier fact. And the federal In the federal case, When it's just these procedural issues are going to the judge, you're basically saying, Judge, you can't be fair.

You know, that's an affidavit of disqualification. and you could file that. But to get it changed to a completely different venue, you'd have a completely different outcome. Um because And but I don't think that would be allowed because it would be viewed as Forum shopping. You know, and and that farm shopping happened.

where people with a particular issue will find the correct form in which to file. ABS can be AC. District Court of Appeals in Cleveland. Or maybe it's the uh the Ninth District Federal Court of Appeals in California, which is the most radically liberal Yeah. in the country.

And people try to find a case and fit it into that category. I it it's going to be very difficult to to ever get. those federal prosecutions and federal employee issues. anywhere but the DC circuit. very very structurally I would say it's Next to impossible.

unless a jury is involved. And so if the jury is involved, you could it would be possible to do that then. Right. You can possibly argue that you can't get a fair trial and ask for a change of venue. Yeah, John.

Look what happened to the J Sixers in with the Judges in DC. Oh yeah. Unbelievable.

So you bring a Democrat congressman before those same judges, what's going to happen?

Well, I mean and see we all know it. Uh who remember that judge, the one the That's skinny. Um Uh gray-haired Judge the one who He don't like to have his picture taken Without a shirt on. I'm trying to think of his name. We're talking about Trump in New York.

Yeah, with Trump. He had it his last name was similar to yours, uh, Judge. It started with the E. I'm trying to remember, but anyhow, Hey. he said before the trial.

Before Trump was even in his court, that he was going to find him, he was going to convict him. I mean, he came right out and said he would do that.

Okay. In New York City, right? Yeah. N New York City. Yeah.

And well, you had Letitia James said that she was going to take Trump down. She ran before she was even a prosecutor on t on taking Trump down. She said we'll find the crime. She said we'll find the crime. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, and so that's so we got to find a way to clean up. The judicial, the corruption in the judicial, it's unbelievable. I it's just But, you know, um that fellow that you talked about the state of Texas, that's where John's at in the state of Texas. who he claims to be a Presbyterian.

He claims to be a Christian. This guy is right from the pit of hell. is actually He's actually kinda crazy. And uh here That that means he's got he's probably gonna get elected then because he is kinda crazy. But he has made some big I don't know if he's going to get elected test or not.

Well, I mean, he's going to, in the Democratic Party, he's already going to win the primary. He'll. He's the only thing with it. He did win it. Yeah, so but look who he ran against.

He ran against that Crockett woman. Jazzy with those two. Yeah. Yeah. Jasmine Flocket.

Oh, yeah, that's but you know, he's the one, you know, you're talking about Tallarico, correct? Yeah, Tallarico, yeah. Tallerico, James Tallarico, who's a state senator. And and so he's running as I've been to uh Bible school, I've been to ministry college. And he and he he's not ordained in any way.

But he's he certainly has been there. And he has the Bible supporting Everything we know it doesn't stand for it. He believes he has an interpretation why it makes sense. And he comes across as this really you know, kind-hearted guy, but he's He's preaching nonsense that life begins at first breath and. Yeah, that a you know, Mary gave consent.

Uh I think Luke and therefore abortion is okay. There's some just wild positions.

Well, you know, the interesting thing You know Uh some of your liberal Jewish uh religions believe that there's not life until the breath. And they take that from Genesis. where God breathed the life into Adam and Eve. The problem is that Adam and Eve were created beings. They were not.

they didn't they were not conceived in the womb. And so I had I had these people on here, this uh Jewish uh so-called theologian call me to challenge me. And I explained this. I said, Okay, well look. If you don't think, and I've done this with several other people, in fact, this was just done that Senator John Kennedy.

It just had that these two wicked women Abortion: one was an abortionist, another was a politician, but anyhow.

So I explained to this guy, look, Let me ask you a question. If it's not alive, then no problem. Just leave it be. Leave if that baby is not alive, Then Then She's not going to give birth to a live baby, right? I mean, so if you just leave the baby alone.

Will the baby be born? Will the baby grow in the womb?

Well, of course.

So here's the other question. After the abortion, is the baby still alive or dead? No. The baby's dead after the abortion.

So if he's dead after the abortion, that means before the abortion he was alive. And say these people just simply don't think. They don't think. Right? I mean, it it's And so Yeah.

And again, they have no respect of God. They they don't fear God. This Tellerico Boy, I'm going to do it. You know, the Bible tells you in Jeremiah where he says. Where God says, And they have said, God has said, When I have not spoken, Boy, I'm going to tell you, and you're going to have there's going to be a real severe punishment for that.

He comes against these people that have done that. And then the other there in Jeremiah chapter 2. In verse 34, well, through that, You have those women. whose skirts were filled with the blood of the innocent, And they said they're their alibi we're innocent, we we're not guilty because What we did we were allowed to do. The law here allowed us to do that.

Therefore, since it was legal, we're not guilty. And God said, No, it might have been legal, but it certainly wasn't lawful. You're guilty. And so I mean But it seems like you have people Remember uh I I mentioned Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton's been around.

He he's learned how to twist and spin and pervert the word of God. I heard him come out right out and say, That the Bible condones and allows abortion. That is a lie told by a liar. That is a lie told by a liar. One time I was drivin' down Route twenty in Meadow, And I I got a call.

And um Color says turn on your You better turn on the radio. I think it was thirteen hundred or thirteen thirty. AM And I said, right now And I said, Why? He said, Well, 'cause Al Sharpton's on there I said, why would I ever want to listen to Al Sharpton? They said, well, he's talking about you.

He's talking about you. And so I turned in and sure enough he was telling people not to listen to me. That I was the apostate, yeah. Unbelievable.

It here here's what Pele Rico, and that judge's name was Engaron. You're right. It was the first three letters of my name, E-N-G. His is Engaron, E-N-G-E-R-O-N. uh was judges uh Trump's stone Trump's nemesis.

in New York State. But James Polarico and Reverend Al Sharpton They point to Gabriel seeking Mary's agreement is what they argue. Let it be. Before the incarnation. arguing they they say creation requires Consent and cannot be forced, applying this to abortions as a post-conception choice.

As opposed that's that's their argument. It it it's it's so ridiculous. Because it's We know that Mary's consent celebrated conception, not the destruction of already Conceived life. I breathed life into you before you were. E before you were known, from from the beginning.

An abortion ends an innocent human life. Of course, it violates commands like do not kill. There's an easy one. Don't kill. Right, just like you were saying, Pastor Ernie, why would you c if What happens to the child, the feeders After you abort it.

It's dead, right? Yeah. Do not kill. And, you know, again, they come up with the language of illusion. you know, they they get together and I've sit in where they called the child a product of conception.

Or they refer to the pro-death, pro-death, as pro-choice. Show me a child that's ever chosen. to have his heart ripped out of him while he's alive, or his brain sucked out while he's alive. Everything about that is based upon lie. Even Planned Parenthood, even their name, is a lie.

They've got nothing to do with parenthood. They've got only anything to do with death, okay? Let's open the phone lanes and take a few calls, you know, t for tonight. Phone lines are now open at eight eight eight. 6779673.

If you have a question, Or comment Uh give us a call, and if you can help the judge We will too. Uh Judge, we're going to be all in on helping you get get that election. Thank you so much. 888-677-9673. If you have a question or a comment.

Praise the good Lord we're We've gone through the program so far and we haven't been attacked. Thank you, Lord. Judge, we didn't warn you about we've had you wouldn't believe the strange things that have happened here. And I mean some of them almost lethal things that have happened to us And most of them that that do happen happen on a Friday night. Yeah.

Some of the p some of the engineers are even afraid to come in on Friday night. We w we had one guy that was really got shook up with the lights started flashing on and off and weird sounds started coming out. But these things happen. It's strange, isn't it, John? Johnny, are you still there?

Yeah. Do do we look uh oh, maybe. No, no, no, I'm here. I'm here. I didn't realize I muted myself.

Oh. I remember past 31 Friday talking to you about the show. And then by the time the show came on, you almost were in the hospital. I was in the hospital. And another and another brother, I think, went into the hospital there.

Yeah, I would say. Yeah. We were all uh we I was in hospital the next day. Yeah, emergency room. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But through the years, I mean the strangest things you can imagine. happened on Friday nights. Yeah. I mean some bad ones.

Well, all three of us we got hit in the heart. You know, so let's go with Randy. Randy, you're in the air. Randy, this is Randy from El San Diego. We're talking about you and your ministry today at work, Home Depot.

And the man I was talking about has been following you for over forty years. I've been out here fifty-three.

Well Well very very good. Thanks, Randy. Yeah, we want to support the ministry and everything, and we're still following up on everything you're doing. And I'd like to see you when you come back out here. I'd like to visit again.

Yeah, we've been talking about making another tour, so when we come back out I'll I'll let you guys know and I'll be b broadcasting from Cape Rays there in San Diego. Awesome. Yeah, we'll meet you in person. I'll buy you dinner or lunch or breakfast, whatever you like. Yeah, the last time I was there a lot of people showed up.

It was really Really nice. I met some really, really good people. We had a great time. And so, yeah, I'll I'll announce it. Before we do that again.

But we're thinking. I don't know. A month a month or two or what? Couple markets.

Well, yeah, it would probably be Sometime this year, but I can't tell you when. There's a lot of factors. Because when we do this, we visit a lot of stations. We take a tour, we do the program. From remote places, different stations every night.

So it takes a lot of planning. and a lot of it's got to do with weather, too.

Well, we we still are praying for you and everything, and we also want to support you with about the judge. The judges need to be tried for their illegal activities. What's going on with that? American needs to step up to the plate, federal, state and city.

Well Let me ask Judge David. David, I know they've laid off they've fired a lot of people from the D the DOJ. And I told you before, when I called and talked to the lawyers there, they could not find one Christian The lawyers I talked to went and they could not find one Christian working at the DOJ under Obama when Obama was there. And hopefully that has changed. I understand that several thousand just left.

and there were a number of them fired because of their hardcore political stance. Uh wh what do you think? Do you think that we're going to get some justice? Is Pam Bondi Is she capable? Uh to is she up to the job?

That's a good question, and I hope she is. But I'll tell you what, we need that justice. And all the people of the country need it too because we live here. And we got all these illegal immigrants coming in. and all the illegal activity.

And then that within the judicial system, They're upholding that. They're going against their own country, which would be treason or a traitor should be deported themselves. Absolutely. Alright, thanks, Randy. Thanks for calling.

Here. You know, when we think about that, you know, Judge and John I think we got a I got I got an echo there, uh Andy, could you can you catch that echo? Anyhow.

Okay. Here You know, they're so quick to kill little Unborn or pre-born Americans. I mean they but They're so that they want to uh well today, for example, the senate voted. All one hundred senators all one hundred senators voted to reopen the border. Uh And they did that.

By not funding border security funding, okay? And that and that's so when they the whole idea was to To fund Homeland Security. But by by agreeing Not to fun Border security. That means they're They voted literally to open the border, okay? The house Uh said no.

we couldn't believe that in the Congress.

So they're gonna have a another vote on that, I believe, coming up this you know, possibly even tomorrow. Or possibly They they talked about actually having doing that tonight, okay. But can you believe that? That I mean, what is going on here?

So The that that border bill is very interesting. And to answer your question about Cam Gondi, you know, I You hear how Ted Cruz has the ability to really win any argument. Yeah. London Standis is like that as well. I've I've met both of them.

But I I I I think in that position, You need someone who's so Deft Bad. The logic skills at being a lawyer, being able to counter an argument, sort of like Charlie Kirk was able to counter an argument. And I'm not sure the uh I'm not sure PM Bondi has been up to the task.

So far. Um because That position It should be one of where you're j you're using your intellect and your legal skills to shut anyone down. Because the the k the the issues that are brought up are all nonsense. and a very skilled Person like Ted Cruz. can shut those arguments down in a heartbeat.

Yeah, James or John Kennedy is another one that can do that. He's Really good at that. Yeah, he he is. But I've seen Pam, she's she's really handled herself uh against a lot of these people out there where you know, they've gone they they seem to really go after her. Uh You know, and and uh You know, be you know, it seems like they're trying to make her cry, you know.

But, um, she's I've seen her she seems to be handling herself, I know, pretty good. Uh that she wanted that Jamie, what's his name? Uh she handled him very, very well and uh Any and what they do in Congress These cigarettes, when they question you, They should give you an opportunity to answer. And that's like, you know, this idea like In the judicial system, where the prosecutor tries to say, answer, would you answer yes or no? You know, sometimes you can't answer questions yes or no.

Sometimes You can't answer a question like that correctly. whether yes or no, okay? Uh and so when they've done that to me Will you please answer yes or no? I said, Okay, yes or no, yes or no. Yeah, that's what I do.

I thought I didn't have you on the stand during my career. You would have frustrated me. I would have been Pulling what hair I had left out. I believe me. I have frustrated these ACLU prosecutors.

Uh And, you know, the way we've done it is God's word in the Bible is so good. You know, Jesus always answered a question with a question. And that's what I did. I learned from him. He's the best.

I would always answer their question with a question, and it would frustrate 'em. Uh Because they were Trying to be deceptive. But um anyhow I I you know, I I like her. I think that she And she's uh brilliant enough, but they just really seem to go after her trying to get her to lose it. On their word, they wouldn't get away with that with a Ted Cruz, and they wouldn't get away with that.

I'll tell you another good one is Josh Holly. Josh Holly's uh Very articulate too. And uh but But I I can't believe the Senate that those Republicans in the Senate voted for that. Where were their heads? What do you think, John?

I think he keeps muting himself. I have some background noise, Pesterny. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean It's all a big game. Did they does anyone t well, on the Democrat side, do they ever do they ever tell the truth, Master Ernie?

Ever? They lie about lying. Everything is alive now. They don't try and hide it. Yeah, well there Karl Marx said To say one thing, then say another, to go this way, to go that way.

In other words, Marx said that you should lie. That's the you know, when you get up there that l you know, lying is is what we do, yeah. It's a well, pets the earnings. You know, I see what they've done. In Minnesota, there, Waltz and the guy that's the Attorney General, what's his name?

I can think. and the mayor. They they've created this false Um And there's the whole false premise. And ICE did this and ICE did that, and all everything they did was illegal. And they they murdered two uh citizens.

And now they want to build a whole And they've got that lie. They're keeping this lie going and going and going. It's amazing to watch. And to tell you the truth, I don't see the Republicans really kind of Standing up to this lie, and the lie has become real to a whole section of Americans out there. They actually believe what Waltz is saying and the others in uh Minnesota.

So and rather than Than standing up against it, they kind of. shrug their shoulders, but people are believing it that they're earning. And now Waltz wants to initiate some sort of civil rights case against ICE for all the crimes they committed and the murders they murdered citizens.

So yeah, going to, you know, to the courts? They're gonna they're gonna try and indict federal agents, it's all a lie.

Alright, let me ask you a question. Let me ask David.

Okay, the uh attorney general there in Minnesota. They have him they have tapes they have tapes where he is dealing with uh Those Those that were committing the fraud Hot there in Minnesota, The ones with all the welfare fraud and that, he he's in a meeting with them. The Somalians He said a meeting with those from Somalia. And they're telling him, Well, yeah, well, you know, we we're the ones that supported you. And he's agreeing, yeah, we'll, you know.

we'll kinda look the other way, uh, where it comes to you know this fraud. They have that now arv Uh he's the Attorney General. They're for the state of Minnesota. Uh And and I'm wondering here Now these crimes he's committed, of course they were welfare crimes, Uh the DOJ, how can the DOJ are are they going to prosecute him? I don't think they'll be able to prosecute the the Attorney General.

Uh because I think what they need what they will do is continue the the prosecution of the people that stole the money. 'Cause they were federal funds. But to Un un unless there unless there's some Very significant. Piece of evidence. That's a Attorney General.

engaged in some conspiratorial action with the rest of the criminal enterprise. And it was a criminal enterprise. I know how those things work. There'll be a group of people getting together, they share information, they share targets of how they're going to take the money. You know, and there's also If it was the Attorney General's office, Boom.

you'd have to have explicit proof That the Attorney General said something like, Go ahead and do this. I'm not going to watch what you're doing. I think they have that. They have that. That is the only thing that's not.

That is it. He tried to use the smooth lawyer talk, but he's. He virtually pretty much agreed if you listen to what he's saying. He's saying, Don't worry, I'll cover for you.

Well, then I if I'm the federal government, I I name him too. I mean if I'm Well But you can name 'em.

Well, they brought him in and they deposed him for questioning that, And they do that to all these people, but we never see anything happen. Merritt Garland. They brought married Carlotte and this guy.

Well, I'm gonna tell you, he broke every kind of law, okay? And Why why are not we seeing any convictions, okay? Uh we should be seeing all kinds of convictions on these people, you know. Our Congresspere here in Ohio, Dave Joyce, Merritt Garland was one vote away from going to jail in the Congress, They were going to lock him up and f in the Congress right there for uh for lying, okay? And They they had to take a vote on it, and one vote, Dave Joyce, was the vote.

that kept him from going to jail. I couldn't believe it. But uh but the corruption in these guys in all in all the evidence that they have on these people, Uh Like James Colmy. And You know, his daughter was the one that called off the stopped The investigation uh into the zero. New Mexico Zorro Camp where Epstein and those people, where Hillary Clinton and Chelsea were visiting, where Epstein and those people were doing those horrible things where They were bringing those young women in there and uh removing their eggs and trying to fertile trying to Uh create Bill Gates.

And uh Epstein wanted to b to be able to impregnate all kinds of women, you know, with their D and A. They wanted uh And that all that whole stuff was being done out there. They knew about it. The FBI knew about it. But they were told.

to stand down and do nothing about it. And so so much corruption. It's just unbelievable the amount of corruption. Remember, though, Pastor, when it comes about. Corruption.

in Washington That's where I could see the Just the Department of Justice Five. fearfully looking to prosecute it. I mean, with fear that it They could get twelve People in Washington DC together to vote to put a Democrat in jail. I I I can't I cannot I cannot see it. And believe me, John, you may have the same.

thought process in in a good lawyer, a good prosecutor, We'll be thinking about that because you don't want to take a case on that you know you're going to lose.

Now the federal police would have to be in Minnesota. It'd be in Minnesota in and those are hypothetical situations. And you know, the hypothetical situation, if you thought a state person. a state lawyer was involved in the conspiracy, you would have to say to yourself, could you ever win this in Minnesota? And I think the answer would probably be no, you couldn't.

Because they they have It is we are a federal system, and Minnesota is a completely different world. than the rest of than the rest of where we live. Just like that fellow who called earlier from California. California is a different a different political landscape.

So foreign that that they come up with some crazy ideas about how you treat kids in school. Pastor Ernie and I talked about that. You know, where the Mirabelli decision, where the State Assembly, imagine this, Pastor Ernie and John.

So a state assembly In California thinks to themselves Hey, I think it's a good idea that we tell parents So we tell teachers Don't tell parents. what might be happening to their kids at school if they're having a mental health crisis and they believe that one day in school they should they want to be a girl instead of a boy or a boy instead of a girl, and they want to be referred to as different pronouns. But don't tell the parents. Matter of fact, let's propose that a law makes it illegal to tell the parents. And how about the State Assembly in California says that's a great idea.

We agree. And it becomes law. And not until the summer That was crazy.

Well, yeah, you know what was taking place there, too. Uh there in the San Diego area in the public school system. The young girls were were told to wear burkas. uh and and to to bow down and pray to Allah And on prayer rugs, and they were told, Do not tell your parents, they will not understand this.

Now one of the things that happened with COVID When uh When the kids were sent home with their c curriculum, The parents were finding out what with what they were reading. And they didn't care care for it too much, and they were find finding out that children were saying, Well, They said, Why didn't you tell us about this stuff? This is horrible.

Well, we were told not to, that you wouldn't understand, okay? And so this is why you need to get your children out of the public school system, folks. Anyhow Uh President Trump, you know, we're seeing something, John, I'm seeing something that, um That is very disturbing, and now I'm wondering, okay. You know, you know, about like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson. At the Health Ranger now, the Yicandus Owens.

Um And more, all of these people all of a sudden have become very anti-Israel. And they're They're they're saying that we're losing the war in Iran. They're They're coming out.

Now, here's the thing, John. I watched you know who Vict uh Victor David Hansen is? Yes, yes, yes. He's quite an intellectual and he's a a real patriot, okay?

Now here I was watching him on the internet And he was completely anti-American. I look at him, I'm saying, wait a minute, I can't believe what's coming out of this man's mouth. And I looked. in a very, very small You can barely read print. Uh at the bottom of the screen they had This is an an AI production.

Now I'm wondering 'Cause see that was completely made up. It was completely made up, okay, by AI. And and I'm wondering if maybe some of what we're seeing with Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, the Health Rangers, and and so on. Uh maybe the same thing. What do you think?

Well, I I I'd like to hope that test Ernie, but May well, maybe some of it Uh but is there when you go to their shows and you hear what they're saying, that's a different story. You know, if it's something on the Internet uh on YouTube maybe, but they're saying it's real damaging stuff that they're saying, Pastor.

Well, they're they're saying That we're losing that, that we're losing the war. You had a health ranger come out today. And he says that, uh If we put troops that that Trump is going to put troops on the ground and our troops are not qualified uh that the Iranian army military is is much more qualified That our troops, our troops won't stand a chance. He's saying that, okay? Uhoh, I just noticed what time it is.

And do you know what time it is, John? How much time do we do we have there? R Andy? You got six minutes, John, to tell us how we can. Avoid that burning lake of fire and how we can get to glory because Some day everything we talked about here tonight uh will be forgotten, but Heaven and earth will It well, well, may pass away, but God's word will stand for ever.

And so tell the folks how we can get to eternity. Yeah, well pass to Ernie. In line of what you were saying, The Bible says in 1 John 2: The world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever. That's eternal life.

So everything we're discussing tonight has importance for the hour we live in. But it'll pass away five years, ten years, whatever time in the future. It'll pass away. But eternal life. And Jesus and uh following Jesus Christ.

Hmm, not actually. came to redeem us. Because of sin. And the people in heaven Pastor Ernie, and I love this verse. It's in Revelation Five nine.

And they're singing a new song to the Lord.

So the scripture that I'm going to share is part of a song. And so here we have all the believers in heaven, and this is part of the song. And they sung a new song saying Thou art worthy to take the book. and opened the seals thereof, for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God. By thy blood.

Of every kindred that's tribe. uh tongue, language, people and nation.

So heaven is full of every type of people you could think of and they're singing a new song to the Lord. And they're saying how they got to heaven.

So this is like not guessing. Or anything like that, these people here are recorded in heaven in the book of Revelation. And they're saying because Christ was slain. On the cross. And it says, and you have redeemed us.

That means he paid the penalty for sin So that we could come we could be in heaven. And with the people are from every tribe all over the world, Every language. Every people And every nation.

So if it says every nation, it includes the United States of America. And it says every people. People, it means male, female, young, old. Highly intelligent, maybe not so intelligent. White, black, red.

all the different colored skins, yellow. Uh that's who's in heaven. God is no respecter of persons.

So we go back and we go look at at the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And that's found in 1 Corinthians. Chapter fifteen. Right there, the first couple of verses. And it says, Paul says he's sharing the gospel.

This is the gospel. This is how the people got to heaven, by what the Apostle Paul was teaching. And he said that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures. That's what the people in heaven said. He was buried.

And he was raised again on the third day, bodily raised from the dead. Jesus Christ was born, he had to be born of a virgin cause. Oh, that's been so fast, Pastarni. Yeah. And he he was born of a virgin, he was without sin so he could be the Savior.

So, folks, everybody, you can have eternal life tonight, just like the people in heaven, believing. that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay the penalty for your sins He shed his blood. He rose bodily three days later, and you have to repent of sin. and confess him. As your Lord and Savior, and that is how you can have assurance of eternal life in heaven with Jesus Christ for eternity.

Thank you, President. Thank you, John. And and we have God's word on that, don't we? That's what I used to people in heaven, Pastor Annie. They told us how they got there.

So you just back through with the scriptures, and there it is.

Alrighty. We're coming to the end of the program tonight. I want to thank you for being here with us, Judge David. Thank you very much, Pastor Ernie. All right, we'll Keep in touch with us.

We got to get you elected.

Well, I want to say good night. I want to say God bless to you all. And then I want to say always, always, always, always. We always do. Remember, we did this before Trump.

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