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Pastor Ernie Sanders discusses the importance of election integrity and the need for reform in Ohio's election system, highlighting the challenges posed by voting machines and the importance of transparency and accountability in the electoral process.

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You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders? Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this 22nd Day of September.

twenty twenty five first day of spring. Folks, you heard last night, you heard style talking about how He has to fight with the other board ops to do this radio program, and they claim that. By hosting this program with me, it boosts their IQ.

Well, I can tell you this. He he is no placeholder. He's Numer Uno co-host Kenny Pihoski. Good evening, Pastor. Yeah, I I just woke up from from that kick I took from Styles yesterday.

It was crazy. Came out of nowhere. Yeah. He said, I'm doing the show. Get out.

It it is what it is, I guess.

So, anyhow, we got a lot to talk about tonight. And my Should be having um My guests tonight who Uh I hope he hasn't fallen asleep. And uh that's myself Strippick. He is a conservative, patriot, Republican candidate for the Secretary of State, and he's supposed to be with us here tonight. You know what happens when you come on late like uh sometimes they get they're ready, they and they're sitting there, they're thinking about what they're gonna say.

And the next thing they know is they're in law management. They're dozing off. They're dozing off, yeah. And uh sometimes it happens to me and that's It's hard when you're the host, right?

Okay. All right. Here's the title of the message. This is a good one. When Gods season the saints pray and act, Hell trembles Oh, now that's um It's an interesting thing because I was listening.

to A Message, a Sermon by Billy Graham. And Billy Graham was totally out of character. You know Milligram is usually this continuous, calm, uh you know, good articulate speaker as he's preaching. I'm listening to him and and he was militant. He had a righteous indignation, a righteous anger.

about him. I mean, you wouldn't I I've never seen him like that and it and I'm glad I did. And so but he was making some points he was not happy with. the way the world uh treats uh God's seasoned saints. You know, we're you know, the the ancient of days, uh loves to see his seasoned saints stand up and take authority.

And so some of the things that Billy was saying, I'm listening to every word, he He's giving events, he's he's preaching t to the older folks and He said, Don't listen to those. who believe Uh you can be aged out. In other words, and that happens a lot today. They like to aid you out of society in many ways. Like, for example, I have a couple of good, very good friends of mine.

Who are judges? very competent judges and uh probate judges to 'em and And they got aged out, even though they were very, very confident. Forced retirement on them. Yeah, and believe me, they weren't that old. They're a lot younger than me.

And so Anyhow, uh but but in in other areas too. I remember Uh especially In the prison system here some years ago after forty five years of Of going to the prisons week in and week out, being up on death row all of those years. They the the Department of Corrections comes up with a new program And here I am with my seven associate pastors at that time. Of course, they've all gone home to be with the Lord except for one. Actually, two now.

I keep forgetting one's retired. He uh he he's still alive, but um. Here after forty five years of ministry, they're telling us what That um Do we The way we do things, okay, uh is archaic and Is things have changed.

Well, God doesn't change, and His Word doesn't change. And so that he was talking to any one of those men there, uh that were Bible s Bible scholars could be Bible scholars.

Okay. Uh and telling them and by the way, the program that they came up with, and they and we we had to watch a video And the whole point was so that we would learn How n Not Okay. The the two Well, it was like one of the DEI things, how How how not uh I'm I'm trying to think of the best way to to say it when we engage the the inmates. Uh Okay. I I guess it w it would be How not to?

Insult. If you will. Insult. Don't insult them. Yeah, w one of one of the inmates Or You know, just be disrespectful.

In other words, they're telling us here that We have to be very careful we don't say anything negative about things like uh sodomy, like the sin of sodomy. We We don't say anything negative about say transgenderism or any of that, you know, you Don't talk about sin. Right. You know, this is this is, in other words, You can talk about salvation through Jesus, but you're right. That's basically what they were saying.

Uh is um Not to be to show any disrespect by being not politically correct, okay? And our guys, we watched, and we just looked at each other and said, you know, you talk about. Here a party of fools. I mean, it it would take a whole group of fools to come up with this plan. But anyhow He goes on, Billy Graham went on to say, uh That Don't allow yourself as as the as seasoned saints to be dis disrespected by situations like that and to don't ever forget that your life experiences Or Priceless.

Um This is what we This is what we expect of you. and the way we expect you to behave your yourself at your age, he said, don't ever tolerate that. When you hear that Um you have Then he went on to say how you've stood your ground and And you've weathered the storm, the attacks on your faith and Hey. your family. You hold a You hold the high ground.

You don't have to. You give an inch. How dare you give an ish to those that refuse to Uh give you the respect That you deserve, you've earned. Yeah, you fought your whole life up to this point. Why why would you?

Let up now. Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, as we go through this message, I'm going to get to that part of it as we go through that. But we're going to start out here tonight. uh over in Ecclesiastics chapter twelve And the verses of First one.

We may just do verse one and then come back to this, but Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth. While the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, When thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them. When the sun or the light or the moon or the stars be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain.

So He is saying here Um, you know. When you're young. When you're young, to become a saint, an heir of the kingdom. as a child Uh as a Is is a true blessing. It's a real blessing.

to be able to Place up crowds in heaven with a youthful body. Uh that's a real advantage. Yeah but been Us well, like Timothy, an opportunity to become Elders in the faith while we're still young. Um Can you give me some examples how Being In the ministry, in ministering in different areas with a youthful body. Uh would be in uh very advantageous.

the placing of crowns and Forever. I think it might be easier to reach the youth. If you're closer in age.

Well, yeah, to reach the youth put What about, you know, for Forty five years I pounded the streets. I mean, I wore out a lot of shoe leather preaching in front of those bloody abortion mills. We were out there and. I was out there we were at the 52 weeks a year in the cold and the rain and the snow and it's hot. And Uh When that youthful body It was m much, much easier Than it is with my seasoned body here today.

Yeah, it was easier to put more miles on. And um I didn't get get as tired as quickly, and not only that, but out there in those days I had a lot of excitement. A lot of excitement. Yeah. I mean, I was shot at.

O on several occasions they tried to run me over. One guy tried to stab me in the eye. You name it. I mean, we had exciting times out there just saving babies, okay? And I had to put up with a lot of punks.

We had cases where young girls were being drug in against their will. and to those whorehouses of death, and we went went and rescued them.

So there was a lot of physical activity and um In fact, in a couple of cases, I ended up uh chasing some folks that attacked us. And I'm not sure I could catch him today. You don't think? No. Not as quick as you used to be, huh?

Absolutely. And uh I remember one time. I had an apostate preacher who was a an apostate preacher. He was with an apostate church. And he had an office that was nearby, and he had to listen to me out in front of that abortion mill preaching because he was a.

He embraced sin, and every kind of sin he embraced it he was a real Democrat. And one day uh as I was preaching He snuck up behind me and stuck a gun in my back. And he told me He said, I can't take your preaching anymore. I've heard you every day you're out there preaching. And I just can't take it.

I'm here today. I'm going to put an end. I'm going to put an end to your preaching. No more. You're not going to be out here.

And I finally said, look. You've got to shoot me, shoot me, talking me to death's too painful. And. And uh You know, as God's God would have it. See, wouldn't it when you get older Oh.

Kenny, you know, is is you'll know as you get older that, uh One of the reasons I think the good Lord allows Allows our our body to age and all of the pains and aches to come as. It makes us look more forward to going home to be with him and getting a reward. Yeah, that makes sense. And so what happened in that situation was Just two weeks prior to that, the security card at that bloody abortion mill. And I was pretty terrible I led him to the Lord.

And this is was going to be his last day on the job. He'd gotten a new day job at Lincoln Electric. And and so he was all excited about leaving.

Well, he was watching the the cameras. and he saw this guy sneaking up behind me, And so he got out and got around behind him and got a drop on him. And he had called the police on the way out. But anyhow, So He he put the gun in on the apostates back and the apostate Yeah, he broke in he He was more afraid of dying than I was. He broke it and ran.

He just ran screaming and crying and yelling. But anyhow, Uh Today I don't know if I uh If I'm if I'm up to all that, I I don't think so. And so H here I wanna go, but we're talking about using your your body. And let's go over to Romans chapter 12. In Romans chapter 12 Here Verses one and two Actually, let's go to forces one, two.

Uh And three. I beseech you, therefore, brethren, By the mercies of God, That you present yourselves, your bodies, a living sacrifice. What do you when he says Present your bodies a living sacrifice What do you think that's talking about? Um I think that's supposed to be. Yeah.

Your whole entire being. Should be a sanctification. It's what we call sanctification, being a set aside For a special purpose of God, huh? Yeah. Yeah.

And so So he said, I beseech you, brother, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living. Holy sacrifice acceptable unto God. Boy, this is a shocker. to some people. You know, this is a shocker to some people.

uh which is your reasonable ser service. You know, there's a lot of confessing Christians When you when you tell them that, you know, they're That y that's your that's simply your reasonable service. I mean, they think, well, you know, They're doing got a big favor by getting up on Sunday morning and going to church instead of sleeping in, you know. And So here When he says, which is your reasonable service? And so he when he talks about that In which ways do you would you use your body to do that?

Kind of like what you were doing was going out in front and protesting the abortion. clinics Um what about missionary work? Missionary work, absolutely, going down to uh The jails, you know, just you know, getting out there. And spreading the word. Be it a doer of the word or not just a hearer only.

Exactly. What about What he tells you in Matthew chapter 2. uh twenty five to Feed the hungry? The house the homeless Clothe the naked, to visit those that are sick and in prison.

So, all of these things, you know, you got to have a body to get that done, don't you? Yep. Yeah. And then he coming to the good part here. And this really here Uh involves Your senior citizens.

This involves your seasoned citizens. Also uh to a great extent. Let's be not conformed to this world. We We've been around for a long time and the world's been trying to conform us for the longest time. But be you transformed By the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is They're good.

and acceptable and perfect will of God, Well, you know, there's a lot of excitement right now. you know about Ch uh Charlie Kirk's Memorial. Mm. And I'm glad there is. I'm glad there is that you saw the people coming out.

And But we and we see Uh like it like yesterday when they had that memorial they gave an altar, called all these these people raised their hands because they had not accepted Christ as their Saviour. They had raised their hand to come forward, and which is a good thing. But Us senior citizens, us seasoned citizens, we've seen this stuff before, you know. We we remember 9-11. Mm-hmm.

Right after 9-11 All of a sudden everybody wanted to join the military. Right after nine eleven, There were two great big dust clouds, the ones that came from when the World Trade Centers collapsed, but there was another one that spread across the country. And that was when people started pulling their Bibles off the shelves. an' the dust was comin' off em. You see Why do you think they were doing that?

Why do you think all of a sudden Uh People ran to their shelves and and s and pulled their Bibles off. Uh probably because they were afraid. That's right. All of a sudden it was the fear they were afraid. Uh, they pull the Bibles.

Did you think a lot of them said you know I hope God's watching. I'm going to sit down here and read this Bible. I hope God's watching. Oh, most likely, and I'm sure churches. Completely filled up for months after that and then slowly dwindled back to where.

Normal. Levels work. Levels. Work.

Well we ag you know, we're thankful. that there is going to be And they know that That there are pockets of revival, and that's good. Oh, it would be There are many out there saying that they think that this nation is heading for an all-out revival. Yeah, and I would continues. I hope it lasts.

I hope it lasts. I hope the I hope the Seeds grow and the roots take hold. Um and it continues. Uh unfortunately, there will be a number of people that will Let it fall off again.

Okay, so Yeah, yeah. Um Again, a lot of us A lot of us older folks, we We kinda know what to expect and and uh We understand when he talks about here what it what it means to the renewing of your mind that you may prove what what is a g a good and an acceptable and perfect will of God.

Now, Uh There you know, we we've been around a lot and Uh You know, you have the the Feast of Trumpets coming up Wednesday, right? And it's all over the internet that the rapture's gonna take place. Are are you ready to go? I'm always ready. One of the things though that us senior citizens haven't b been able to figure out is Why people want to sell all their goods?

and get the money before the rapture. Yeah, that never made any sense to me either. Either.

So, what are you going to do with it? What are you going to do with it? What does it matter? What does it matter? Yeah.

Yeah no. But I love another thing too is There's all these predictions and um I'm sure you've seen way more end-of-the-world apocalypse rapture revelation predictions in your lifetime than I probably ever will. Will. Oh, you wouldn't believe how many I've had on the radio, how many interviews I've done on the radio. But no one, but no one.

No one ever comes back afterwards after their prediction doesn't come true and says, oh, I'm sorry. I was wrong. They just fade away. You were a good friend of mine, a very good friend of mine. Hal Lindsay How uh w he was on quite often with me Back in the earlier days.

And uh he was he he had it all down. He knew when it was coming. And I told him, hell, I don't think we should be doing that, you know? But no one knows. No one knows.

That's the point here. No one knows. No one knows. But the father. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Like a thief in a night. But you know, the ironic thing is this: like you said, the thief of the night. Every year they they come out and every year they talk about on the Feast of Trumpets and Uh, some years, you know, nobody pays attention, other years they really do it big. But It's like the boy that cried wolf, you know.

cried wolf and the wolf didn't come and he cried wolf and the wolf didn't come and then one day He cried wolf and nobody paid any attention and the wolf ate him up. Yep. And what's going to happen? It might just be. On the Feast of the Trumpets when Uh that's when a lot of people feel that the Lord will return and nobody And nobody will expect it, will they?

No, I mean there will be some that will say, see, I told you, but they didn't really believe it either. Yeah, so Yeah, because here You know, we've heard that story so many times.

So here now When he's talking about here, the sanctification that we're being set aside to be used of God in his glory.

Well Again, like I said, there's a very huge advantage. uh with a useful body when it comes to do this and Uh you mentioned some of the And some of those ministries we talked about here Mm. that useful body is is quite a A plus. Yeah, I mean you could go to more places um more quickly. E everything could be done easier.

Absolutely. So he goes ahead And he says For I say through the grace given unto me to every man that is among you to not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly according As God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith, What do you think he means when he says not to think of yourself more highly than he ought to? Um um to stay grounded, kind of? Don't put yourself up. On a pedestal.

Scripture says, All good things come from. From Kenny? From above. Above. From above.

Okay, now let me ask you this because you have Uh we have nothing To be proud of But a whole lot to be thankful for. I mean, we really have a lot to be thankful for, okay? We are blessed. We are blessed. Yeah, we were we were born in the greatest nation on earth, Uh how much did you have to do with where you were born?

Nothing. nothing. You can't say, Well, I that was by my mirror. What about your parents, kid? Did did you pick did you pick them?

Uh my dad, yeah, but my mom it was Yeah. Uh Do you think if i if they had it to do over again they'd pick you? I think they probably would. They might have to think about it a little bit. Yeah.

I have a I have a story there. I'll tell some time a I'm I'm like seventeen years older than my youngest brother. And Um I have to kiddie when I I drove my mother to the hospital when he was born. And And I picked her up. to bring her home.

And I I always He kidded him saying When mom first brought you out, and I got a good look, I said, Mom, leave him here. And He used to get so upset with me. Yeah, but I used to always tell my little sister, Well, mom loved me first. I was older. Dead JL.

I did that with my b my w young brother, the one who's the runs that o orphanage. I said, you know, I was mamm's favorite And uh he said, Yeah, he said um You needed to be. All right. We'll be back right after this. Read his words, heed his signs can't you see?

These are the times. Earthquakes, famines, and Pestilence are all on the rise. The love of man is waxing cold just like the way that he forgot. Tor With all these things now happening before our eyes. Can't you feel the kingdom coming?

Can't you sense a new day dawning? Rising like the morning sun, with healing in his wings. Rid up your minds to be believing. Prepare your hearts to be receiving the soon-to-be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings when he comes in the clouds. Each and every knee shall bow, every ear shall hear him, every eye shall see.

His trump will sound His fire will flash As lightning shines from east to west So shall also the coming of the Son of Man be can't you feel the kingdom coming Can't you sense a new day dawning Rising like the morning Sun with healing in his wings to be believing Prepare your hearts to be receiving the soon to be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings our Savior and Deliverer and redeemer The Messiah, Jesus Christ, El Shaddai, Yahshua, Hallelujah. Hetch of deal the kingdom coming. Can't you sense a new day dawning? Rising like the morning sun with healing in his wings. Grid up your minds to be believing.

Prepare your hearts to be receiving. The soon-to-be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings and Lord of Lords and King of kings and Lord of Lords and King of Kings. We are back. And do we have Marcel Strevick with us yet? Yes, we do.

Okay. Hey, Marcel, are you there? I sure am. to talk with you. It's great to be on the Showpass journey.

Alrighty, you are a conservative patriot. Republican candidate for the Secretary of State. You know what? There's a lot of people out there, believe it or not, that really don't know What the duties of the Secretary of State are Yeah. And um Most of them say, Well, it got something to do with the elections, doesn't it?

But tell the folks, what does the Secretary of State do? Yes, third highest job in the land. We have about three areas of responsibility and focus. The first, of course, is election administration, and we all know that through our elections, we elect our government. and those that will have rule over us.

So it's key that our election system are operating in a way that's fair, accurate, honest and with full integrity. And then the second piece of it a lot of people don't know is business licenses. And incorporating LLC, facilitating the business. Environment: one of the first things that companies moving into Ohio or establishing themselves do. is they work through the Secretary of State's office that facilitates those administrative services.

And then finally, an area that's getting more attention because of the fact that money has come into the state into terms of campaign finances, when it comes to candidates that run for office. and receive donations. one of the responsibilities that seems to be growing for the Secretary of State is going to be the area of assessing and auditing If the donations that have been given to candidates are legal, Yeah.

Alrighty.

Now Add about of all of that. in than Receiver is one of the the main things that we really need to be concerned about his election fraud. And you know, and we know that we've had that, you know, in all the states, and there's been some of that right here in Ohio. What about uh our voter rolls? I mean, do we still have a lot of dead people on the voter rolls?

When was the last time they were cleaned up?

So now things seem to be shaping up even better for us with President Trump in office. But we still have a problem because President Trump has given, I should say, the states more access to federal databases. The Social Security Deathmaster Index, since you brought up the The boat or wrong. But there's still huge gaps. in the way that we track People and determine whether they're even eligible to vote.

Ohio. for many years has operated what I call an honor system. And that is when Somebody fills out a voter registration form. That form is processed regardless of whether the information on it is correct. And so we create a voter ID number for somebody, and then later that information is checked.

But what ends up happening in our state is that tens of thousands of voter records come back as mismatched or incorrect And then we start Trying to chase down those people by sending them letters. In most cases, people don't return that letter. And then they end up being on our voter rolls for four years because federal law requires that once a voter record is created. and give it an ID number. They're not allowed to be taken off for four years.

That is the fuel by which third party groups use To all of them send absentee ballot request forms and or try to gain access to the those p those files. to potentially use that for ballots. If you were to get elected, is that something that you could potentially fix yourself? Or do you need. More help with fixing that.

So, this way you can nip that in the bud right at the beginning. Yes, that's a great question. And that is one of the things that I can do without the legislature is I can share my agreements that our Secretary of State has with the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, which Primary agency we use. To validate information like driver's licenses or social security information. And I also have access to.

more so now, federal databases that involve. Citizenship information. My objective, and this is what separates me from anybody currently in the administration or anybody else who's running for this office. If I want to flip the responsibility of conduct of that type of work. The 88 County Board of Elections.

I want to give them the means. and I want to work with the legislature to give them the mandate To qualify every single voter registering before they're given a voter ID number. See, right now, that only makes sense. Why would they do that? It only makes sense.

Well, you know, right now, it's a question of span of control. And I think there's a trust deficit that's happened over time. There's been times in the past, in early 2019, where what we do in Ohio, it's we're very different from other states. We outsource to private contractors the voter list maintenance at the county level. Very few states do that.

Many states do it, of course, within the scope of election administrators that work for the Board of elections, right? But in the state of Ohio, we've made it a business. And that's really the problem that I see with the election systems across the country and in Ohio. For twenty years, we have devolved all these functions and tasks in ways that make them less publicly transparent, less oversight, And the accountability's been broken. And so there's very few consequences for people in failing to act on it.

Secretary of State's directive. when it comes to cleaning voter rolls. And I think at some point in the last six years, the Secretary of State said, ah, forget it. I'll just pull all this up to my level and every year I'll do one big loaderless maintenance Review and clean up, and then I'll tell them what to do.

Well, what that's done is it's created a board of elections that doesn't act on its own anymore. It just allows the Secretary of State to tell it what to do. And so these are things that uh Ohioans don't understand happen. That needs to reassert new organizational leadership and accountability over the system. Otherwise we're going to lose our election.

Well, you know, shouldn't you though have a way to Um You know, this sh look. like there like here in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County. Do you know do you know what the word Cuyahoga means? If it's like Chicago, where I grew up, it's a Native American term. Is that right?

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's a native of me it means crooked. You have Cuyahoga County means crooked county. We have a crooked river and a crooked county. And with a car I've been around because Chicago means something like smelly swamp.

I I I'm I'm not getting that right either. But isn't that interesting what the Native Americans named our uh Okay, it's in. They had forsight. That's funny. And boy, when it when it comes to elections Uh You got to be right on top of these county officials here.

Um you know, in Cuyahoga County. And so and so Uh so you would have to have a way of really policing uh the Board of Elections in all of those counties, really. I mean, uh you know, you have some places where I've actually had Uh some of the the folks in my church who go down to work Um at the Board of Elections. When Obama ran There were people that came in, these guys were in these uh red shirts with Shea Cove Arras on 'em and they're carrying billy clubs. and came in to intimidate anybody That would, you know, that looked like they might vote for a Republican Black Panthers or something to the effect in Philadelphia.

That was, I think, in 2012.

Something like that, I recall.

Well Yeah, they had him here at Cleveland and I had one lady They actually called me from down there and she was actually crying because she she was a very pretty woman. She was working there and They intimidated her just by looking at her, you know, with like listful looks, okay. And so So we need, I mean, that has to be cleaned up. We would need. people to go And monitor, be it these boards of elections, to make sure none of that happens.

You and I know right now that The Democratic Party Uh what is what is their Um Rating That they have right now is down in the teens. What is it? Down about 14% or something. And so This is um So they know that there's no way in the world they're gonna win elections fairly. And so you know that they they're going to try to resort to what they do the best.

And that's that's election fraud. Right?

Well yeah, what I want to do is I want to enhance verifiability. I want to ensure that the system is a very important thing. Systems have the most level of security. Right now the voting machines are certified to a security standard from the year 2005. That's not acceptable.

And that demonstrates the fact that there's been even very little accountability over the voter vendors. I don't know if your audience knows this, there's a revolt against voting machines right now in two rural counties. Monroe and Seneca. And so these people decided they were going to become very involved in their elections. God bless them.

And they collected hundreds of signatures and met the criteria, followed the legal process and submitted those signatures.

so that they could restore hand count.

Now besides whatever you think about hand count, The point of this is they were wanting to demonstrate a greater level of oversight and local control over their election. which is really what we should strive to do. when we have an engaged electorate like we do inside of rural counties. And so what ends up happening is the Secretary of State decided they didn't want them to move forward on that initiative. They have their reasons.

And they came up with the legal reason why they couldn't even bring forward a ballot referendum. And so that caused everything to spiral out of control. And then before you know it, the county prosecutor in Seneca and the County Board of Elections took it a step further. Violated their First Amendment rights and said that anybody who participated in the ballot referendum. is not allowed to serve as a supervisor or poll manager anymore, even though they have years of faithful service in that position.

Because They spoke out against voting machines.

So here we have a Republican administration, right? And we have You know, so-called liberty to say what we want to say, and these had nothing to do with their current performance or duty in their job. and they were essentially discriminated across the board.

Now What's happening tomorrow is in Seneca County. Governor to be Vivek Ramaswamy. Is headed up there with his lawyer, which I believe everything's already been resolved, so this will be a photo op. But I'm going to go up there and I'm going to speak. to the people who I've stood with.

two years on this issue. try to give them the law that allows them to opt out. and to choose their path of vote casting and vote counting. And We've been met with resistance every step of the way. And the people are fighting 20 years of control, taking over these elections.

And at the time, the irony is here we have a president who's come out and said to the people, I want to lead a movement to eliminate voting machines, that are insecure controversial costly And I want to end no excuse mail invalid. which is the law of the land here in Ohio and has been since the Democrats put it in power. Yeah, yeah. And so why is the Republican Party of Ohio not taking their cue From the President. Why hasn't the current Secretary of State, who loves the voting machines, doesn't want them out, even though there's alternatives to get duplicated.

if you want some redundancy to make sure there's no cheating through paper ballots. But he is a wanna opening. Mm-hmm. Because what's happened in our system is we have special interest lobbyists that have bought this voting system Enterprise. and they guide the Board of Elections political appointees To the predetermined outcome and agenda that is to keep the voting mission.

systems. It forever. And that's not working for the will of the people.

So this is something that's shaping up. And if we can't solve for this in the next two, three years while President Trump's in office, I'm concerned that there's not going to be enough poll workers, especially in rural areas, and that's exactly what the voting system vendors want. They want to go to a remote Internet based voting system And then you can say goodbye to your ability to provide oversight and review of our voting system. Oh, but I'm sure they'll review it for you though, right? Right.

It's the trust systems.

So we assume that all the information in the software is the way that we prescribed within our vote choice. And that's what's been broken for many, many years. These systems were never designed for a third party to be able to review them. In fact, every single vendor that's produced these machines has had a clause in the contract that claims they're proprietary. and therefore you're not allowed to perform an independent security assessment review.

That in and of itself should tell you that these are not systems that we can have confidence in going into the future. Absolutely, absolutely. And, you know, the old saying, if it's not broke, don't fix it. You know, when we had the paper ballots hand counted, it worked very well, okay? It worked very well.

And of course, unless unless you happen to be a part of that uh Chicago Mayor Dalies can where You know, as um Yeah, but if they had tickets back then, and you could scan them and load them and have a video camera over the table, they wouldn't have been able to pull the daily ticket. Linden Johnson down in Dallas. I remember in that election. That was Lyndon Johnson in Dallas, and that was the Mayor Daley. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A John F. Kennedy out of all people, right, over Richard Nixon.

So this type of shenanigan has been happening, and the more that the parties control the voting system, in behind closed doors with the vendors. The less we can have confidence. we're involved and we can possibly know the the and have the full faith in the system. That's why my candidacy is built on restoring transparency, public oversight accountability and local control. In the rural counties, particularly, because I'm concerned the most for them.

They're in a depopulating phase. They're getting less poll workers. Did you know that in Monroe County, they had to consolidate from twenty eight precincts Down to eight precincts, and now a person has to drive up to one hour. get to their polling location on Election Day.

So what do you think it's going to lead to? This is happening right now in Ohio. this whole thing about discrimination going on in Sonica County, This has been going on And been accelerated since 2020. The difference is. The Board of Elections in Seneca was very open about it.

And they spoke up, which is what blew this whole thing open. But for years now. If you've had any form of opinion or viewpoint and you've expressed it or you've pointed out some form of impropriety or malfeasance. with what's going on at the Board of Elections, you're blacklisted. They don't want you involved in any type of leadership or supervisory role.

And that's the dirty little secret about Ohio. in the county board of election. They have contempt for anybody who would dare challenge Their perceived authority over the election systems. And to me, that's a runaway system. We need to change the culture.

We need to change the mindset, and we need a leader in the Secretary of State's job. that's going to take that right back. and say no, you serve the 8.2 million people of Ohio. You are a facilitator, you are not a god here. All right, very good.

How how is the election going right now? Do you have any idea wh uh how where you're at in the polls?

Well, we're not at the stage of the we're eight months before the primary election, which is going to take place May fifth, twenty twenty six, and I encourage everybody to get my name and information out there. Because I'm somebody new and different. I've worked 20 years in the Air Force intelligence community in the intelligence and threat security environment. which lends itself very well. to the type of role and type Black.

Support I can lend to assessing the risks and threats to our elections. I also worked. expensively With industry in the area and field of information system. technology.

So I could work on upgrading and enhancing systems that haven't been updated properly. to secure them from the threat. of the f of nation state and uh domestic actors in twenty years.

So I think I am the candidate in this race with the deepest qualifications to do this job. Clearly, I have a passion for it. is why I've been involved for two years to try to bring forward legislation. And the Competitor in this race didn't even want the job, he wanted to be the governor. And when he realized he didn't want to run against a vape, then they decided like they do typically in Ohio that they were just gonna rotate and trade favors for endorsements.

and become some other job.

So it's This is a really an interesting opportunity for the people of Ohio to Put somebody in at a crucial time, and I believe that I'm being pushed at this time to go into this role. and to fulfill this duty, and I see this almost like a continuation of our military service.

Well, I I see that you have the uh endorsement of a number of places, Cleveland Right to Life, Jug County Right to Life, and I notice a number of the Tea Party people uh your signs are out I see your signs out all over the place out there, your yard yard signs. Uh, so it seems like your name seems to be catching on pretty well.

Well, I hope so. I pray to God, you know, there's a lot of good people in Ohio. I don't want people to give up on the election system. I say all these things not to dissuade or discourage people. We have to stay involved in this effort at all.

Until we can get the right leadership in there, and then everything just like when President Trump got into office. Everything can change overnight. And I'm fighting to get into that leadership position.

so that I can properly exercise it. And when we do that, Ohio is going to be the beacon of election integrity. We're going to be better than Texas, better than Florida. We're going to have a governor that's making the same assertion. And so it's time for us to turn aside thirty years of the same rotating politician.

Who are in it basically to self-serve. And it's time to put somebody in with a sacrificial servant leadership mindset. who's willing to deploy like I am. Lead my young family for four years and do what needs to be done because I believe that the future of this country. and the stability of the Midwest runs through Ohio.

Well, you have some very, very local, very, very loyal campaign workers out there. We have a lady, Molly, here in Giaga County, and uh she is really g and she's no kid, she's like me, but she's out there and she's really doing a great job getting your name out. I'm blessed. I have fine. We have others.

We're collecting signatures. We need one thousand. And we're well on our way there. I'm raising money, I have to because I'm going up against the establishment you know, who can go to one hundred donors and get two million dollars.

Well, I've got four thousand something. Small donors. And we've raised in the hundreds of thousands, but I need more help, and if people want to support that, with $10 or $20 donations or whatever, it goes a long way. because there's far more of us than I would have just promote the idea of people going to my website at Sturbitch Str. B as Emboy ICH.

Spelled out forojio.com, and on there's a donate button with some information if you want to spend a Check. But this is our time, and we have to act, Pastor Ernie. God will only empower us as much as we empower ourselves. Absolutely. Well, we have some time between now and and um the primary.

And so we we need to have you come back time and time again and and Um And come on early and take questions early from a lot of the people out there listening out there, but uh What keep you b what keep you here? I know you've got our endorsement. You uh do you have any events coming up? I sure do. I'm going to Strongsville on september twenty ninth at six thirty.

I'm speaking there in Strongsville.

So that's for Cuyahoga. I've been quite a few places in Cuyahoga. At some point, I'll be up at Cuyahoga Valley Republican. For sure. And um That's my September.

I haven't booked too many more events in Cuyahoga. I spent quite a bit of time in Medina, Lorraine. Even in GM. You text text me wherever you're going to be, text me that information and I'll announce it for you.

So I'll be up there with my ethnic Croatian community. I'm first-generation American. There's a big community in Painsville and East Lake. Good, hardworking people up there. base folks And I'll be up there on October.

Fifth for an afternoon at their cultural center.

So, yeah, I'm happy to do that. My pleasure to continue. Yeah. Come up before the audience and inform everyone on how this is playing out with the election system. in Ohio.

consider myself to be fortunate to be this at the stage in my life where I can dedicate my life to this cause. Post-military career. And um I'm going to need the support of everybody, and most importantly, I'm going to need some fryers. protect me from Forces of evil, and all the other things that anybody in elected office needs, right? We especially nowadays, especially now, we have All right, very, very good.

Yeah, we keep in touch and we will make sure you text me those and I will announce those to you. We'll get you back on here quite often. And so very good. Thank you, gentlemen, and thank the entire audience. Appreciate it.

We'll talk soon. God bless. Have a great night. And we'll win this thing. We're going to win this thing.

All right. Alrighty.

Okay. We're coming up to a break. We got about, what, a minute or two before the break and uh Then We're gonna hear kind of from a Uh Tiss Reagan. She's kind of a She's a little loopy. Yeah.

To put it nicely. Yeah. Yeah. She's fun, though. She's nice.

You know, she's fun. She kinda talks a little strange, but uh Yeah, yeah, she's got some weird inflections going, but it's she's fun. But she's very pretty. Oh, yeah, yeah. Easy on the eyes.

All right, very good. Okay, well, I'm not pretty, but I talk better. No, not too easy on the eyes. You're pretty easy on the ears, though. Yeah.

All right. We we each have our own, don't we? Yep, yep. All right. All right, we're yeah, that's It's a it's a s it's a strange world that we're living in.

So We're coming up to a break, folks. When we come back we'll hear from Trish and then Then who knows, Mill may be open the phone lines and hear from you. And True. Uh How many times what do we got we're down to About ten, nine, eight, something like that. Yep, let's go.

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