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September 22, 2025 11:59 pm

The assassination of Charlie Kirk, a prominent Christian conservative, has sparked a national conversation about violence tolerance and the importance of respectful dialogue. His wife, Erica Kirk, has spoken out about the need for forgiveness and the power of God's mercy. As the nation grapples with the aftermath of this tragedy, many are turning to their faith for guidance and comfort.

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Alrighty, we're back. Question is. How much How much of all of this that that we're getting on the news as far as Uh, reports from the FBI, what Cash Mattel and all these I wish everybody can we trust because we know that Yeah. Boy in the past And I know there's a lot of these. A lot of what took place with Charlie Kirk's assassination That um It just doesn't fit, you know?

Yeah, it doesn't seem to make sense, some of it.

Well, yeah, you don't want to read too much into things, but you also don't want to take everything at face value either. No, no, especially when they keep changing things up, right? Mm-hmm. Do you remember? Within hours of the assassination, this was done by a professional.

This was a professional. This was a professional. All you heard. A lot of people c had all these crazy theories and they were quick to get on the internet and post their videos and try to get as many clicks as they can and just hoping and praying that they actually were stumbling onto something and a lot of it was You know, still up in the air. Like, it's a lot of it, some of those videos, too, like, just didn't make sense.

They were contradicting themselves. From the get-go, but. They had all these former intel agents out there from FBI and CIA and and, you know, right away and I'm thinking, Look, look, I'm definitely no Intel agent, but I I know better than to make an assessment that quickly. Uh d when when you don't have all the facts. No, there's there's there's just somebody came out with this and that and the others are just parroting them and uh So, but then when you saw him come and he jumps down off the building.

He doesn't have a rifle with him. No, it wasn't well, it wasn't in his hand. I mean, it could have dropped it before he came into view or thrown it off the edge or something. I mean. You saw him when you you saw him come up to the edge of the bill, he had that little bag with him, but no rifle's gonna fit in that bag.

And who? Wood. If you just assassinate somebody, are you going to take the time to stop and take the rifle apart in two pieces? That takes a few minutes, okay? You're not going to do that.

And so. Then they find the rifle, they find it uh stashed in the woods. Nearby. Uh there's something very, very wrong with that, right? And then uh Here you have all of these people Now they're saying there may be as many as twenty people involved in this thing.

And so let's go and let's hear what um Trish Reagan has to say about that. The FBI's growing list of suspects keeps Keeps extending. Did you see this? We've talked about this. I'm now hearing well more than 20.

They're looking into a lot of people. There's just some weird stuff. Like th I don't even wanna have to I mean the furries, okay. You know see more? Yeah.

So uh this This kid who was just atrocious, right? And it's amazing how Erica Kirk forgave him, was in a relationship with his roommate. It is believed that the roommate may have been in another relationship as well. And so that was, you know, that was... Perhaps something that might have contributed to an unstable mindset.

I don't know. That's one of the things that's being looked at. I keep going back to these texts and it's funny. I said the same thing that, by the way, Bannon's been out there saying and I said it before Bannon did. for clarification purposes.

I looked at this and I'm like, it doesn't make sense to me. It really, really doesn't make sense. Why is he... Admitting it this way, some people have pointed to the grammar, like nobody this young actually uses such wonderful grammar when they're texting. It was almost like it had been done before.

I don't know. I mean, this is all conjecture. This is all hearsay, so I want to be cautious and careful and thoughtful on all of it. But what I can tell you, I have spoken to very good sources at the FBI who tell me that roommate is not out of the woods and that they're looking at a whole lot more people.

So this Lance Twiggs, let me see if I have a picture of him for you. Yeah, he's not out of the woods. He is still very much a person of interest and well over 20 people. The concern is that there is a broader network here. I will say this.

You get a great team there at the FBI with Cash Patel and my friend Dan Bongino. And they are going to not leave any, any, any stone unturned. They're all over this. And I have a feeling they'll find out some things that maybe, you know, we didn't even want to find out. But here's the reality of the world these days.

I've showed you guys this study. You guys shut a study that shows how America Americans are Unfortunately, those on the left, especially the young ones on the left, somehow tolerant of violence. They're becoming increasingly tolerant. And I think that this is in part because of what they've been spoon-fed by the media and these rabbit holes that they've been going down online.

So this was a just shocking study that came out the other day. But again, points to the possibility there that there may have been other people involved. And how tragic is that really when you think about it? Just awful, awful stuff. Um, it was a tough weekend, really tough weekend.

I don't know how much of the coverage you saw. But Charlie Kirk's funeral was an important and very touching moment. It is a turning point for the nation. I think there are so many people that have never heard of Charlie before and now they're seeking him out and they're going back and they're looking at his old videos and they're like, wow, this guy makes sense. Look at him.

He makes total sense. And they're like, how is it? How is it that That I'd never heard of him before, or how is it That The left could present him in such a way that was so manipulated, right? I played a short the other day, and I actually want to pull it up for you because I think a lot of people are coming to some realization that, in fact, he was out there trying to do lots and lots and lots of good, and yet he was. constantly.

constantly tarred and feathered for that and and that's not right and that's never where we should be because as a society I really think we need to praise this speech. Here's a guy talking on TikTok about Charlie's legacy and How Charlie was able to expose the libs. Let's watch this together. Let me just clarify, y'all made me obsessed with Charlie Kirk. This came out of the blue for me.

I never cared for broke content like that. Nothing against what he said. I was just never interested in clicking his videos to see what he had to say. But y'all made me deep dive and go down this rabbit hole because there was no possible way that y'all seen the same video I saw, and half the world rejoiced it. And I'm just sitting here like, there's no way.

Now I started looking in this stuff and I'm like, dang, so you felt like this. Your hate and evilness has been revealed within you. But what you said to what he said is cap. That's not even what he said, that's not even in the full context.

So now I'm just starting to. Oh, that was a lie. Oh, that was a lie. Wow.

So. Yeah.

So now I'm I'm I'm I don't know. I'm deep in it now. The libs are being exposed. Yeah.

Right, they're being exposed, and more people are coming to Charlie. I look at his YouTube channel and it's grown by like 2 million subs. In the last I look at his Instagram that might have been like 1.7 million and now is well over 12 million. It's just incredible. People are finding him and this is going to keep happening.

And I'm going to tell you something. This Erica Kirk, whom he married, Is a wonderful woman, and you know what? I'll tell you, anybody, anybody who has it in their heart. To forgive after what she's been through? She gets a lot of points in my book, Watch.

That young man, that young man. On the cross our Saviour said, Father, forgive them. For they not know what they do. That man That young man, I forgive him. I forgive him because it was.

what Christ did. And is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love, and always love. Love for our enemies.

and love for those who persecute us. Which is pretty amazing, right? She's pretty amazing. I'll tell you, these were two people totally in love. Don't talk about something different to say.

We're going to get to that in a second. It's... It's just him being him. He's like, listen, you can forgive all you want. I'm not forgiving anyone.

I'm not forgiving my enemies. Here, I want to show you a flashback to Erica Kirk going on her husband's show. You can just see, like, these are two people so in love. And it's so much a shame. It's surreal to me.

I still, like, it hasn't totally fully sunk in. But I will say this, his legacy is going to continue on in a massive way. And it's in part. big part thanks to her but a big part thanks to all of you guys and every little bit that i can do and you can do and everyone else can do to make sure that his legacy is well remembered so that we can have these conversations right erica and charlie in love My wife joins us, Erica Kirk, the beautiful legendary Erica. I love you so much.

I love you. You're my best friend. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We have asked the audience for questions. You picked one.

Who is more conservative and why? Erica. Yeah.

By far. Not even close. I am a moderate. Compared to Erica. Andrew always jokes that once you got married to me, you got more bass.

That's true. That is true. No, Erica is very conservative. Do you think having kids made you more conservative? 100%.

Which I didn't think was possible. But 100%. Absolutely. And a better wife. Erica Kirk has just been officially named the CEO of Turning Point USA, taking over for her wonderful husband.

She's great. She's going to be a big role model and inspiration for a lot of young women everywhere. My hat goes off to you. Erica Kirk, and I wish you All the very best, and know that I'm here, we're here, and we're going to do everything we can to help you along the way. I would say this.

Donald Trump struck a slightly different tone. Charlie Kirk's funeral. He admits it. You know, and this is one of the things we love about him because, you know, he's not pretending. He's not trying to be anything.

He's not. He recognizes that he's a human being with all his flaws and all his faults. And it is what it is, folks. It is what it is. Here, watch him.

Missionary with a noble spirit? and a great, great purpose. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted. The best for them.

That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent. And I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erica.

But now Erika can talk to me and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent. Hehehehe Charlie's angry. Looking down, he's angry at me there. Oh, not that angry.

Listen. It's a tough time in this country right now. Charlie Kirk didn't deserve what happened to him. No one deserves that. I don't know if you caught the news over the weekend, but Van Jones, who's a popular Democrat columnist and contributor over on CNN, said that one of the last messages he received from Charlie was a request to have a conversation.

He invited Van Jones on his show. Because he said, let's have a respectful debate, a respectful conversation. You know, you may not agree with me, I don't agree with you, but let's have that. And Van Jones debated about whether or not he should release this information and decided to go forward with it because in the spirit of, yes, let's have a dialogue together that is respectful of one another, that's so critical and that's what's so missing right now. It's sad.

There was a story in the New York Times over the weekend about how Erica and her husband, Charlie, sat down with a spiritual leader the night before he left for Utah. One of the things that came up was the question of whether or not he should be wearing a bulletproof vest. She wanted him to be wearing that. And the spiritual leader was talking about also the importance of having some bulletproof glass around him when he spoke.

So he knew this was serious. He knew it was getting dangerous. I mean, he told me back in 2018 on the air, I played this clip for you guys last week, after Antifa had surrounded him coming out of a breakfast in Philadelphia, 50 people, he knew it was getting dangerous. I mean, that was 2018. And he was warning against this, and he continued to get threats to the point where he said to this pastor and to...

His wife, he said, listen, I understand. At some point this may be necessary, but not yet. Not yet. He still wanted to be accessible. to everyone.

And that left enormous vulnerability. Sure, he had security, but unfortunately there were no drones overhead. And this really awful person did a really awful thing. And you've got to ask yourself, why would somebody do such a thing? What's happened to our society?

I showed you the study from YouGov. Why are people on the left, especially the young ones, becoming So Willing to tolerate violence. Ask yourself that. Because we can't live in a society like that. It's not right.

It's wrong. I've cried a lot. I'm not going to cry again for you because my mom's, the kids are like, mom, there goes mom again, crying. My daughter sent me something, another tribute to Charlie this morning and of course I'm crying again. Cried when I took him to school the other day.

I have had a hard time with this. Full disclosure, very, very hard time with this because I feel not just the loss of somebody I knew. Not just the loss I feel for his family, for his children, for his wife. But I feel a loss for our country. I feel a loss for our young people, for the millions of young people that looked to Charlie for guidance.

But. But I am going to tell you this. And I think Erica would agree. He has ignited something. in all of us.

An awakening. A revival, as she calls it. And that, ladies and gentlemen, will be his legacy. Let's listen to Erica. talking about that very issue and how, wow.

For the first time in a long time, people are saying, I got to get to church on Sunday. I'm going to go and read the Bible. I'm going to try and understand the Constitution. I am going to try and listen to the person that disagrees with me. Watch.

Most of all, God's mercy and God's love have been revealed to me these past 10 days. After Charlie's assassination, we didn't see violence. We didn't see rioting. We didn't see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband always prayed he would see in this country.

We saw revival. Revival. We see people. Coming back to the center. Maybe going to the right.

that never would have thought to do so before. We see people coming out to speak. In Charlie's honor. that we're afraid to speak before. We see a commitment.

To respectful dialogue. that is so necessary at this point in time. And I love our country for that. God bless Charlie Kirk. God bless Erica Kirk and her family.

And God Bless America. I love you all. Thank you for what you do. Yeah, Trish, you were supposed to be telling us about the more than twenty um possible suspects, but but you forgot to do that, but you did okay.

Well she she mentioned it. briefly. What we're going to do, do you think maybe we should?

Well, first, I'll go to you. Why do you think tell me in your opinion why his assassination has lit such a fire as it has? Because of who he was and how he carried himself and how he tried to spread the Lord's message and. Um respectfully have disagreements with someone, but just 'cause you're having a disagreement with someone doesn't mean you have to berate them, doesn't mean you have to talk down to them. He would have respectful conversations with them, knowing he's not gonna change their mind.

And he might, you know, they're not gonna change his. That's But um But knowing he's probably not going to change their mind, but it's not necessarily about the person he's talking to, it's about everyone else who's listening to. Because the person who he's disagreeing with is Probably stubborn. set in their ways, But people who are listening Might not be. And those are the seeds you could plant.

And the reason why I think that they decided to take him out, whoever, you know, whoever the proverbial they is. Is not not necessarily because of the message, because a lot of people have that same message. But not everyone is as effective as he was at reaching the youth. It's not so much that they hated what he was saying. Is that People were listening.

And that's what made him dangerous.

Well, do you think it it had to do with the the fact, too, uh that uh a lot of people, a whole lot of people, uh just love to see uh these young snot-nosed, know-it-all, indoctrinated kids. uh get their up covens you know that uh he that he put them and he used logic he used logic and put em in their place And Boy, I'm going to tell you that this is um A lot of people just really said, you know, it's it's about time Um and and and what happened, it became a challenge. It became like All right, who's going to go up against this Charlie Cook? Who do we have here on the left that can go up against him?

So when he comes out and you see. The way he handled these people and then The ones that try to come out. You know, they they came out with a uh pre determined That they were going to get Charlie to lose it. I'm going to be the one that gets him to lose it.

Okay, that's. And I saw a couple who consider themselves to be quite intellectuals, but. They they weren't intellectuals at all. Yeah.

Oh, they were the only ones describing themselves that way. Yeah, and And but what happened he did it and such he did it with logic And Here Uh you know, he took their he he Had dialect And what happens?

Well, they would get angry. They would get angry. at him and Um That would show you, you know, that when What happens is when you can't win an argument, when you don't have a good argument, what do you do? You start. calling the opposition a lot of names, right?

Well, dummy. Wait, are you talking to me? I'm sorry. Someone was calling in. I had to throw them out hold real quick.

I missed that last second of what you just said. All right. No, I said. I said when you don't have an argument, when you can't win, then then what do you do? You resort to calling your opposition.

You're trying to beat a little your opposition. Yeah.

And then you called me a dummy, or did you 'cause that's when I came back was right, dubby? I was like, wait, what? All right, yeah. Yeah.

Let's get the number out and take some calls. 888. Six, seven, seven. nine six seven three eight eight eight six seven seven nine six seven three If you have a question or a comment, give us a call. All right, you want to go right to the calls?

Yeah, let's go. All right, first up, we got Jack in San Diego.

Alrighty. Hey Jack.

So Charlie Kirk Supposed shooter. We finally get to see a picture of the rifle, and they say it's like an antique Mauser with no serial number. Kind of reminds me of Oswald with his rifle, which was an Italian World War II surplus that was bought as a mail order item for $29. And that was a piece of junk rifle that Oswald used. couldn't have made that shot.

And I don't know. I would imagine this is another piece of junk rifle. And the shot was an expert shot.

So again, it doesn't make sense. And then they have this kid walking around Residential neighborhood.

Now, one time you see him, he's in one outfit. The next time you see him, he's in a different outfit. One time, he's got a limp, the rest of the time, there's no limp, there's no rifle, and none of that made any sense to me because he drove to the college from his home and then he took his. back to his home.

So why was he walking around Yeah. neighborhoods in different Outfits, no rifle, limping, not limping. None of that made any sense. It still doesn't make any sense. And I was wondering if you had any thought about that.

Well, yeah, it's it's It's no mystery. What he did is he he put the the rifle in the woods before he went up on the building to shoot him.

So that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Again, I mean, it seems like it always ends up this way. It's almost like it's done on purpose. Uh to Until To tell the people out there You know, in other words, to insult our intelligence And to put out a lot of different confusion out there, there's there's Yeah, there's a lot more going on to this. One shot like that, and then here again.

You had He had a former state representative there. Who was was standing very close to where Charlie was. And he says that shot came from right there, right very clear close It wasn't from up on the building, it was from somebody who was much closer. I don't think that kid could make it. that shot with that rifle.

And there's no evidence that he was practicing.

So, I mean, it's always.

Something like this. The other thing I wanted to Say, was the guy that's representing himself that's on trial right now, the one they found with the rifle supposedly going to assassinate Trump at that time? He's a strange one. Remember, he took off In a car, there was a car chase. They stopped him, they arrested him, and they made him roll up his T-shirt all the way up to his neck.

Yeah.

If you look at the pictures of him with his T-shirt all the way rolled up, it looks like he has breath, and it also looks like he has a See section. Scar going across his entire stomach. You know what? It does look like maybe. He was was taking those female hormones.

that he was trying to grow breasts, okay. And where does the scar come from? The same type of scarf. you would find from after a C-section. Uh I don't know.

I'm just saying there's a lot of weird stuff. I wanted to throw that out there. I've never heard anybody talk about that, but I noticed that right away when he was arrested. And they keep showing that picture and I keep wondering why doesn't anybody talk about this. This guy has breath and a C-section scar, and he's doesn't seem like he's playing with a full deck.

So you're you're thinking maybe he's not hit he's not a him. I'm thinking maybe he's another one of these uh transgender nuts. Yeah.

Whether he is or not, his boyfriend is. We know that. No, he's talking he's not talking about the guy oh, the original the original guy that they thought that they that's on trial right now and he's representing himself. No, he's talking about the guy that it was over at Mara Largo tri uh in the at the uh golf course, hiding in the trees. when the one that tried to shoot Trump and And they caught him because he the the uh from the golf course.

Yeah.

And they made him pull up his teeth. t-shirt. And they show a close-up of that with this t-shirt all the way up, and I'm Yeah. This guy has breasts and he has a C-section Scar going across his entire stomach like a C-section. Yeah, I saw that, and I said, you know, I've seen a lot of these arrests.

I've never ever seen them. make somebody roll their T shirt up like that. There was no I haven't done that, so there's There's a reason they did that. the scar that looks like it was uh From a C section? Awesome.

operation could have caused that Other than a C-section, cause a scar like that.

So the other thing is, they're letting him represent. Himself. I'm telling you, right there, you've got a case for appeal. This guy is in no position to be representing himself. And this case is going to get thrown out and retried on appeal.

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. I don't know. What happened to the first guy that took a shot at Trump and missed? That they that the the FBI sharps two shooters decide. decided to do their job and kill them.

And then they cleaned up the Then they cleaned it up with bleach and destroyed all the evidence there, and his body got cremated. What do you think about? That guy, who what about his family? Who was he? What was none of the evidence?

It's all Secretive. Yeah.

Well, you know, Trump came right out and said he kn he He figured that the Secret Service and the FBI were involved in that. And that, to me, is obvious that they were. I mean did you know, I mean, you couldn't have done a worse job than they did. Yeah.

Before I go, I want to ask you one thing. Have you had your cataract surgery yet? No, not yet. I'm uh I'm waiting. I've got about the looked at by an ophthalmology.

Yeah.

So my wife went through that. I don't know what they told you, but with her, they just did one. They let that heal, and then they did the other eye. Didn't want to do both at once. It's probably what they're going to do, and they're going to tell me, I'll know on the second whether.

It's ready. They could say it's got to be at a certain point before it's ready to be removed. Yeah, well the reason for that is if you're If you had an adverse reaction you wouldn't lose yourself. That's why they Only want to do one eye at a time. And I was just wondering: have they talked to you about that?

No, they just said you've done proactive and bring it up to them because you want to know before you go into this two things. Things. One, are you going to do one eye or both eyes at once? And is the doctor going to do it or is he going? To have students there participating.

You don't want the students, you want to be professional. Yeah, these won't be students. Uh they're gonna Sue. We love you. And I hope it comes out great.

Well thanks for the calls. We'll talk to you, Jack. We'll be back right after this. Read his words, heed his signs can't you see these? These are the times.

Earthquake? Spam. and pestilence are all on the rise. The love of man is waxing cold, just like the way that he. Foretold with all these things now happening before our eyes.

Can't you feel the kingdom coming? Can't you sense a new day dawning? Rising like the morning sun with healing in his wings. Rid up your minds to be believing. Prepare your hearts to be receiving the soon-to-be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings when he comes in the clouds.

Each and every knee shall bow, every ear shall hear him, every eye shall see. His trump will sound, his fire will flash as lightning shines from east to west, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. Can't you feel the kingdom coming? Can't you sense a new day dawning? Rising like the morning sun with healing in his wings.

Grit up your minds to be believing. Prepare your hearts to be receiving the soon-to-be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings, our Savior and Deliverer. And Redeemer, the Messiah, Jesus Christ, El Shaddai, Yahshua, Hallelujah. Can't you feel the kingdom coming? Can't you sense a new day dawning?

Rising like the morning sun with healing in his wings. Grid up your minds to be believing. Prepare your hearts to be receiving. The soon to be returning Lord of Lords and King of kings and Lord of lords and king of kings and Lord of lords and king of kings. Order more than King Kings, and we Steve in North Holmstead.

Hey, Steve. Hey, Pastor. You know, sometimes when you write songs and you're just sitting there, and all of a sudden, something comes to you, but you might not understand what it is, but it's like, wow, why did I think of that? A couple wealthy people through my life, you know, one basically said, you know, keep doing what you're doing. In other words, if you start doing something else, it's when you have troubles because you might not know what you're doing, but you were making money through a guaranteed talent you had.

And I kind of heard something one time: there's knowledge, understanding, and wisdom. People usually say, Well, hey, if you know it, go do it. They jump over the middle of the understanding. It seems to be Generation Z, or maybe everybody, I don't know. But Harley Kirk's birthday was October 14th, and he was shot September 10th.

And Trump basically was not meant. to die. But God, I believe, used truth. Trump, as an example, what could happen, and that would kind of prime. for everybody to see but Oh, now we're in principle again or whatever.

And he took a young man's wife who probably we could have been president with Transfer.

However, that would have went. Up between September 10th. In October 14th, if my calculations are right, there's 34 days. Jesus lived to be thirty-three and a half. And Charlie Kirk lived half a day.

33 and a half days. Don't know if it has any meaning, but Then they started someone. talked to a doctor. And if it was a 30 odd six. There was no exit wound and it came through the left side.

because there's people behind him. And then on YouTube, it was a pretty broke down video. Mm-hmm. stuff on YouTube, it's gotta find it. Yeah, no, um The shot came from about if if you're looking at twelve o'clock from the back, it came at about ten o'clock.

At an angle. And then it exited out the bottom. where he filled on the left side of chronic artery. But the doctor said there's no way It's it's it's possible that Um, there's no way that they both could have not exited. but it came through the left side.

Yeah.

They're good. people but uh There's a lot of cover-ups. Going on. Wire to cover off. 'Cause um how do you find one guy walking around with a limb driving around Let's put a picture over here and scene over there and him.

Um, I believe he sat close, right? I mean that You got one shooter up on the roof and you got one over here, but uh there was a lot of a lot of people involved in a lot of planning. But it was and I'm a trance. gave people sites or whatever they're on. saying September ninth, you know, when he comes here he's going to be dead.

And on Real America's Voice I just saw tonight. They archive their shows. And he had Charlie Kirk on there and it's got September ninth. He's talking about the senators and one of them like, I can't believe what these guys said. You said This guy he's These college people are Spotted or when they go out and debate.

He said I'm going out to Utah tomorrow to debate. And um well let me let me just let me very quickly because a couple of things Yeah, a couple of things. One of the things you had one of the former state senators that was there very close to Charlie Kirk. And when the shot was fired, everybody started panicking, started running, but there were a group. A group of of these liberals, you know, these Uh These kids, you know, they paint their their tote theirselves black, we're all black, and All right.

They were they were standing there. Just laughing, then they weren't running, they weren't afraid. And he asked them, Where did that shot come from here? And they all laughed, and they said, Yeah, and they weren't afraid. They weren't afraid they were running around.

uh like everybody else. Uh because They knew they knew something now. Uh just say this very quickly. Johnny Cork was a great, a very great man for thirty one he was thirty one years old. He was thirty one when he died, but before him There was another great man, a very, very great man.

In fact, the greatest man that was ever born. who also brought out huge thousands of crowds and and made a difference. His name was John the Baptist, okay. And so God, what God did with John the Baptist when he had finished his course, he took him home and gave him his reward. And his report his course was done quickly and short, and the same thing I think with Charlie Kirk.

He did a lot real fast, and God brought him home and said, Okay, here's your reward.

So but now I got to move on. But thanks for calling. Who do we have next? We got uh Jeff in M uh Massachusetts. Oh, thank you.

Thank you very much, Pastor Sanders.

Well, I listened to the funeral. The funeral speakers were very, very good at Charlie Kirk's funeral, but there was one that really stood out to me, in my opinion: Marco Rubio. Ben Carson really Hit the bullseye. He exposed the communist conspiracy right on mainstream TV for all the world to hear. This is not Jeff from Chelsea, Massachusetts.

Mm-hmm. or Pastor Sanders or a John Birch Society meeting, This was the Secretary of HUD, genius neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who's who talked about the conspiracy and how The communists rotted this country out from within the 43 plans of suburban country from that book. Brilliant job, but here's the thing. It's the half the country is going to believe it, the other half, other half, which are the normies, are just going to throw this out like in New England. New England, I don't think there's any change in New England, in my opinion.

Release very little, or it'll be all talk, and then it's back to the ballgame they go, and nothing will change in Boston. What do you think, Pastor?

Well, I agree with what you say there. Uh I th I think Marco Rubia did a tremendous job too. Uh I d I didn't hear all of what he put up. What what I heard was He was spot on uh about the faith. And here they to have all of these people come out and and talk about here Make it a very, very clear remember, The Communists hate God.

And to hear what that little the Tabib l and uh AOC and all of them coming out talking about h Charlie, they they hate him because he's a Christian. They hate him and because he's a Christian and they hate us. Because we're Christians and so Well, as a wrap-up, Pastor, before I go, the Communists are a modern-day mafia. They've always been a mafia. Anybody that's destroyed their power structure, it's a $2 bullet.

It's again it's up against the wall. Because in the Communist mind, the $2 bullet can solve a lot. Pastor, thank you very much for having me on, and do have a good one. God bless you. You two, thanks.

Let's go now to Brian and tell us. Hey, Brian. Hey, Pastor Ernie Sanders. Thank you, Randy, for taking my call. Is my call coming in good, Pastor?

Loud and clear. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for mentioning John the Baptist. That was awesome. Real quick, I'm gonna throw three or four things real quick and then I'll hang up.

Elon Omar, I believe yesterday or today, she Yeah. She's a demon all demon allah worshipper, as we all know. She had mentioned about Charlie Kirk that his legacy ought to be put in a dustpan and forgotten about. I don't know if anybody out there it was all over the media today. But she had said that Charlie Chirk's legacy ought to be put in a dustpan, basically thrown in the trash.

That was number one. Number two, Bye. The uh hell hell bent guy from uh that's running California. Was that new new dumb, that Democratic member? Trump calls Trump calls him He calls him new scump.

But uh That That's right. He signed a bill in the place that no federal police officers, local police officers. I ask nobody can wear a mask now to protect their identity. When they're doing these raids, he signed a bill in today. Look at that.

Guess what? Anybody is listening? Guess what? He doesn't have any more authority to do that on the federal agents than you or I. And so th they're Yeah.

That that's not gonna Pardon? But he has he has behind a gated community in his in his mansion. Yeah, I know. You know? And another thing is, if you look at these other countries like the drug cartels down in Mexico.

All those opt all those. corrupt police officers. They're they're they're Corrupt and they still wear masks down there because the cartel they're afraid for their family members. Yeah.

I hear you. And another quick one is: did you guys out there catch Chicago? They ice captured over 300. Benner and uh Press Gerv. The one that stuck uh believing that nothing's going wrong in his state They arrested over 300, wanted uh people that have came across once again This comes from Charlie Kirk, too.

Uh this goes falls under the King You know who oh Democrats over there, but I I just wanted to bring that up. The main important thing was Elon Omar. That uh demon allah worshiper to demon say something like that about Charlie Kirk's legacy being swept basically in the trash can. And and the guy from California The hell-bent member. Democratic member.

Scumbag. for signing that bill to protect to protect law enforcement, Pastor. Yeah.

I know. It's a it's an interesting very interesting thing, but Like you said, he can't really do that. I mean, he can he can do it, but they don't they won't abide by it. But Well it just It it gets me how he hides in a in his in his gated Community mansion, and the same thing with Presker and all these guys, and they don't want no police or no. Law and order.

They don't want law and order. See, that's because, you know, look, everything to you and I. Uh you know Hypocrisy.

Okay. Uh is revulsion, you know, where you know, it's it's Uh d do you know that uh to us. makes us it's a revulsion, but to them hypocrisy is something to be embraced. Whatever God's word in the Bible calls sin. Calls evil, they call good.

And listen, I knew some of those liberals and They really embrace hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is something it's like every there's nothing good at all. about what they stand for. And and Presker, he should be the first one to be arrested because that guy is is he's he is responsible for the the deaths of a lot of those young kids that got shot in the head. And that and that corrupt, corrupt, corrupt mayor of Chicago, he should be charged with multiple murders along with those uh county prosecutors and city prosecutors.

So I tell you for Charlie Kirk's wife to get up in front of over a million people yesterday into this country and say God forgive him. And she forgives it. Whatever he is. That it For what he did. And what Trump said.

When he aimed when he aimed at They had a Uh Russian or German Uh Sculpted Charlie Kirk, he aimed it at the whole America. He aimed it at the whole country, is what he did. And that's what Trump said. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Pastor, I want to say thank you for taking my call. God bless, and may the Lord give you your strength and your well-being and your rest and your peace because you're the best, Pastor. All right. Thank you very much for those kind words, Brian.

Alrighty. Okay, do we have any other callers before we have? No, but we've only got about six minutes left of the show, anyways. Yeah, I know. Okay.

And so we get down to it. And I think, you know, this has got really uh you know what happened it shows you The The time of your departure is not your call. I mean, you can have all the plans in the world. And in the Bible, he tells you. Don't say tomorrow I'm going to do this or I'm going to do that because your life is like a vapor.

And he tells you that it's not your call. Yeah.

Okay, it's it's God's call. And so God has given so much of us something to do. And when we're done, then it's time, when he decides it's time for your reward. And when we're taken out, when we're martyred for his sake. Um then what happens it's That adds to That adds to our rewards in eternity.

And so Here They say it's it's an honor to be martyred for the Lord's sake.

Now what what Eri what Erika did when she said that she forgive him, she cast coals she cast hot coals on their heads of the Democrats out there. Um there's they're they're full of the hatred And And what they're doing is they're self-destructing. They're self-destructing right now.

So there's only one remedy one remedy for There are problems. What is that remedy? Uh Jesus Christ. Yeah, well it's repentance. First of all they have to repent.

And then accept our Lord and Saviour. Absolutely. And repentance is absolutely necessary. And once they repent, They acknowledge the fact that there are sinners and Because of their sin, they deserve hell fire, but God provided a a way out. Um and he did something for them they could never do for themselves.

Now folks, This is reality. And I know a lot of people out there say, well, there's a lot of different religions. Yeah, there's a lot of different gases out there. But try breathing everything but but uh air, you right? See how that works.

And a lot of people think, well, you know. You know, I don't choose to believe this.

Well, you can choose to believe whatever you want, but here is. Here is reality. from God. This and and he's not stuttering. He's telling you very clearly, here's what you got to do.

You got to repent. Call upon the Father. You you've got to ask for forgiveness of your sins. And then you have to Call upon the name of the Lord Jesus. To be the Lord of your life.

And we've said this so many times. See, remember He esteems you higher than himself. When He put you before Him, when He took your place upon that cross, folks, and He took your sins upon Himself. And see, I don't understand how that works. You don't have to.

God does. His ways higher than you. What you have to do is trust him, What you have to have that childlike faith and trust him, okay. And then you would place him First, number one. He's got to be number one, okay?

Uh Without any exceptions. And once you've done that, you will become a new creature, a born-again believer, you will become an heir of the kingdom. That's. And then you will be indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

So, all of those things are necessary. First, repentance is necessary, then you need to call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. And then all that will follow If you fail to do that Well, like I said, Wh when the time comes and you hear to night your soul is required of you. Folks Then that's it. That's it.

There's no no turning back. And and believe me, listen, what he's talking about is eternally. The Bible speaks more in hell than it does heaven, really. And Um It's the place where you go to that there's no coming back from him. That's reality.

It doesn't matter what you believe. Reality is what what's going to happen.

So, if you have not done that, and and I watched them last night where They asked, and all of those people that were there that came out. uh and yet so many of em had never ever Said a sinner's prayer. They'd never done that. They'd never given their heart to the Lord. And there's a whole lot of people out there that think that Uh, listen, I'm okay, I go to church, right?

God must love me. Look at all the nice things I have. No, Jesus says, You must be born again. Right, you must be born. Those of you that are born twice shall only die once.

Those of you that are only born once Those of you that are only born once, you're gonna die twice in the second death. Boy, that's a horrible, horrible, horrible thing. And that's That's reality. You don't wanna you don't wanna go there. You don't wanna be there But at second death, believe me So you got your choice.

You're going to have a judgment. Every man will be judged. You'll either be at the BEMA seat or you be at the white throne. And believe me, you don't want to be at the White Throne. You want to be at the Bemis C.

We're out of time for tonight, so at this time, we always say thanks for being here, thanks for your support. And we want to say good night. Good night. We want to say God bless, and then always, always, always, let's do it, ready? Keep it.

Fighting. Duh. Fight. I did it before Trump. I said fight, fight, fight, right?

Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight, fight, fight, fight. Oh.

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