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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this day two of June, 2025. And tonight we have none other than our illustrist.
Well, co-host and producer, none other than Kenny. Good evening, Pastor. Good evening. You're always wondering what I'm going to say, huh?
Always, always, always question it. Yep. Well, guess who's going to be with us tonight? Who do we got? Way out yonder.
Way out yonder in Missouri. We took him out of retirement. We pulled him out. He had been put out to pastor. Keep pulling me back in. Yep. None other than Pastor Joe Larson.
That highly unpaid professional assistant. I'm glad to be back with you. Well, here's what we got to do tonight because, folks, in lieu of the way things have been going, just a couple minutes ago I heard some very strange noises coming out of the studio here.
I don't know what they are. It might be just nothing. But in lieu of what has been taking place, you know, I'm just going to be cautious. And I'm going to ask the folks out there to join us in prayer because we know that we've had about everything you can think of to try to take us down.
And so I'm going to, and we've got some very interesting program tonight, too. And so I'm going to ask the folks out there across the country, wherever you're at, join us in prayer. Listen, you can say if we survived that you were there, you helped us out, it's prayer.
This is what gets us through this. Believe me, Joe, I don't think for one second that if I didn't have the folks praying with us that we have, that we would still be here because the dark side has been after us for years. For years.
It would have been off years ago. Yeah. So let's get the folks out there to pray with us. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, Lord God, I don't know what that noise was, Lord.
Maybe it was nothing, or maybe it wasn't. But Lord, in lieu of what's been taking place with everything that's happening, Lord, I'm just asking you, Father God, to guide this radio program tonight. Lord, hedge us around about, Lord, and come against any and all that try to come against us tonight. And so Father God, let your truth, your whole truth, nothing but your truth, whatever message you would have for the people out there listening, you know who is out there, you know who's listening, you know what it is they need to hear. So Lord, the three of us are saying, use us to deliver that exact message. Lord, let us do it without coming under another attack.
These things we ask in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. All right. Let's hear.
We're going to start tonight. And Joe, if you would read Matthew 24, 24. All right. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
All right. Well, now, remember there's a word there that says the very elect, the very elect. He's making a point, the elect are boarding in believers. The very elect, they are the mature, mature, biblically literate, those that are grounded in the faith. In other words, those that are most faithful, those that have the most amount of knowledge when it comes to the Word of God.
And so I would just say maybe in short, the most faithful. And so he's making a point there that the deception is going to be so great, so great. Now, we're going to actually get into that here in a few minutes.
A couple of things that's happening out there today. You know who Dr. David Martin is. He's quite a well-known doctor and researcher. And especially when it comes to, you know, things like vaccines, he's very, very inept.
And he's all very exceptionally, you know, well-read. But he has made some predictions in the past, and he's been right every time, where it comes to the COVID vaccine and the shot and what's happening. And so here, he is saying, he has come out now, and he is saying, and he's actually got the documents put out by the National Blueprint for Biodefense 201. Okay? It's actually the plan put out by the government.
Okay? And this was put out for a while to be released on July 4th. July 4th. This July 4th. And remember what they did to destroy Trump's first term.
You know, when the economy and everything, we had COVID, didn't we? Right. And now, he is saying that it is all he showed you, the paperwork, the documentation is up there on the Internet, and then Dr. David Martin, and he's showing you, look, here it is, here's the actual orders, that they're going to attack the country with encephalitis, both people and animals. And so this is what he has. Okay? So if you go up there to Dr. David Martin, and you'll find he shows you the actual forms. Now, I don't doubt this a bit, because the idea, they've got to stop Trump.
They've got to stop, you know, they've got to make the economy as good, the economy is getting better, and the Left, the Communist Party, the Antichrist system, the New World Order, can't handle that. But anyhow, after saying all that, we know that God is not, in 1 Corinthians 14, 33, we know that God is not the author of confusion, we know who is. Now, Joe, I have never had a boring day. Every day comes with some unexpected challenge or incident or problems, you guys know that. Over the years, I've had more than my share of strange situations to deal with. For example, about 2 months ago, while in the radio broadcast booth, a very, very strange, high-frequency sound appeared. And Kenny, you know that everybody was talking about that there. And it's strange, it was really strange, because there were 4 people in the studio besides myself, and it was going out over the airways.
The sound was coming out, it was going out over our mics, all of our mics. And I'm, you know, signaling in style, you know, he's there on the board, stop this, and he's got this strange look on his face, he's scratching his head. He comes running in, and everyone's pointing at me. They're pointing at me. And the sound's coming out of you, Pastor.
Now, folks, this is very, very strange, okay? And so, here, you know, we went to a break, we put on a song to try to figure out what was happening. And so, I go outside. I go out into the lobby.
I walk out of the studio, out into the lobby. Sure enough, we go out there, and I have nothing on me. I've got no phone on me. I've got nothing on me, okay?
No hearing aids or anything like that. And nothing... Nothing electrical. Right.
Nothing electrical. And this sound is coming, and it's coming out of me, okay? And so, I just stood there trying to, you know, thinking of what in the world is going on here, trying to figure this out. And then it stops. It stops. And so, I look into the window through the studio, and then I see the people in there in a panic.
And sure enough, it's back in the studio. Now, I know all of this sounds absolutely crazy, you know? It does. And that's the crazy part about it. Yeah.
Because it's true. If it just say, say this would just happen just to you, and nobody else would be around, then you would think, did I really hear that today? Yeah.
You'd probably think you were imagining things. Right. But now there were six of us, and all six of us heard the same thing. Especially if it was going over the air, too, and then everyone who was listening heard it as well. That's right.
That's right. Everyone across the country heard it, okay? And so, you know, it stopped. After a while, it stopped. We prayed. We were praying in there, and it stopped.
This is why when I asked folks to pray, they did this power and prayer. Now, on May 23rd, here we had another very strange occurrence in the studio. And that was just prior to the start of the broadcast. John McTernan, it's on Friday. John McTernan was always with me on Friday.
He's been with me for years on Friday, my co-host. And just before we go on the air, I get this pain in my heart. It feels like somebody has reached in and is squeezing my heart. And it's when it felt like somebody was squeezing my heart. And so, I'm thinking, you know what would have happened if Lisa would have come in and seen that, right?
There would have been a heart attack there, too, you know, because she don't handle those things well. So, anyhow, I'm thinking, you know, I know, breathe deep through your nose. Breathe deep through your nose, okay? And so, I looked there. My phone is set up on that little stand.
You know, I always put the little stand in here, up on the phone there. It lights up, and I'm getting a text from John McTernan. Won't be there, very sick, going to emergency room. And so, I called Randy, the elder Barkley, and I said, listen, you got to take the program, start off and pray. Have people across the country praying for both myself and McTernan, because we're having problems. At this very same time, he's in Houston, I'm in Independence, we're having the very same thing.
Well, he did, he prayed for a long time, about 20 minutes. So, the next morning, I mean, I recovered, and I got through the program and went all right. And we discussed a lot of things. One of the things I think we discussed was the child sex trafficking, and that might have been what the enemy didn't want us to discuss. But the next morning, right in the early, I called McTernan to see how he was doing, and the exact same thing that was happening to me was happening to him at the exact same time.
Even though he's in Houston, I'm in Independence. And then Pastor Larson calls me, the other Larson, Hal, and I said, did you hear any of last night's program? He said, I just was tuning in. I was going to call when, Pastor, you won't believe this, I got real sick.
I started getting these pains. I said, yeah, I believe it. Believe me, I believe it. Okay. So, he didn't hear it.
He didn't know what had happened to us. And so, here, we're saying all that because there are things out there today, we're dealing with satanic powers. Now, I know that this is dark, deep state, and it's satanic, but satanists and that, they have the ability, this deep state, you know, to use technology, you know, to do their mischief. And one of the things that they're using today is AI.
Now, the reason I've said all this, what I've said, is because they're already using this. Joe, when you read off that it would be here, if it were possible, they should deceive the very elect. I just watched a video of these four pastors, and we're going to play this video, these four pastors. This was so real. This was so real.
I mean, it looked, you could not tell that this, well, go ahead and play the clip, and then I'll explain later. Maybe sin isn't what we thought. Maybe we're not broken. Maybe God sees us as already good. Maybe sin isn't what we thought. Maybe we're not broken. Maybe God sees us as already good. Maybe sin isn't what we thought. Maybe we're not broken. Maybe God sees us as already good. Because in the Bible, God said it was good after he created us. So what if there is no hell?
And what if heaven is right now? None of those sermons are real. Not a single word spoken in those videos are by an actual human.
This is where we are in 2025 y'all. I want to tell you the shocking story of how I found these clips, because I promise you, not a single person watching this video is prepared for the level of deception that we are about to encounter in the next five to 10 years. But first, I want to take you to the beginning. I need to tell y'all how this all started. I was on TikTok, and I saw a video of a woman talking about how she used ChatGPT to do something unthinkable. Take a listen. My mind has been blown, y'all.
Okay, listen. Now we use ChatGPT for everything. So I thought I'd try this.
I was like, yeah, we'll see. I recorded myself praying in tongues, audio recording. And then I uploaded it to ChatGPT and asked Chat to interpret it. And at first, I was like, yeah, whatever. Chat specifically asked me, what was this? Was this a prayer?
Was this... I didn't even read everything. And when I saw, I think I saw a prayer and I was like, yeah, it's a prayer. And because Chat said, you know, I want to know how to go about interpreting this. So I uploaded the audio and Chat interpreted it. As I was reading it, at first I was just like, yeah, you're just going to say something. But it was very, very specific. It was definitely interpreting what was on my heart in the prayer, and nobody could have known that. Yeah, try it. My mind is blown.
Like, I know we're using ChatGPT for everything. My mind is blown. I'm like, I wish I had done that sooner because I had been praying for a while. And then when I stopped, I was just like, I wonder what that was all about. And I went back and I recorded and I just started praying again. So I don't know what I missed, but try it. Just try it. She said that ChatGPT was able to interpret the prayer that was on her heart.
Not only is that wrong, it's flat out deceptive and unbiblical. I don't know if y'all know this or not, but Elon Musk was one of the co-founders of OpenAI. Now, OpenAI is the company that created ChatGPT. Elon Musk recruited a man by the name of Ilya. Ilya is one of the most iconic AI engineers in the entire industry. You guys know Sam Altman, right? The current CEO of OpenAI.
The reason why I say current is because it's very interesting. Sam Altman was fired from OpenAI. And at the time, nobody really knew why he was fired. The only thing that was said was that there was some misleading communication by Sam Altman, which led to him being fired.
So people were speculating that he lied about something and he was disingenuine about something. And therefore, he was fired. Now, this move was largely led by Ilya.
Now, Ilya is the individual who is credited with a lot of the building of the actual ChatGPT model as we know today. And somehow, after Sam Altman was fired, he was rehired in just five days. A lot of people don't know this story.
This happened in 2023. So he was fired and then he was rehired in just five days. But the individual who was credited with leading the initiative to fire Sam Altman, Ilya, after all this took place, he suddenly just kind of fell off the map.
Nobody really heard anything about him. And there was this huge meme that was going around the AI industry that said, what did Ilya see? Because there was speculation that Ilya saw something very, very dark that led him to blow the whistle and attempt to remove the CEO because he did not like the direction that Sam Altman was taking the company. Elon Musk was asked about this and he gave a very interesting response.
And I want you to take a listen to it. … get ousted by somebody you know, Ilya. And Ilya was somebody who was a friend of yours. You brought him there. Your relationship with Larry Page effectively broke down over you recruiting him away, I think.
That's correct. That was the fight. That was the… Larry refused to be president after I recruited Ilya. And so here's Ilya apparently saying something is very wrong. I think we should be concerned about this because I think Ilya actually has a strong moral compass. He thinks about, you know, he really sweats it over questions of what is right.
And if Ilya felt strongly enough to want to, you know, fire Sam, well, I think the world should know what was that reason. Have you talked to him? I've reached out but he doesn't want to talk to anyone. Have you talked to other people behind the scenes?
Is this all happening? I've talked to a lot of people. Nobody… I've not found anyone who knows why.
Have you? I think we are all still trying to find out. I mean, one of two things is either it was a serious thing and we should know what it is or it was not a serious thing and then the board should resign. What do you think of Sam Altman? I have mixed feelings about Sam. I do, you know, the ring of power, you know, can corrupt. And this is the ring of power. So, you know, I don't know.
I think I want to know why Ilya felt so strongly as to fire Sam. This sounds like a serious thing. I don't think it was trivial and I'm quite concerned that there's some, you know, dangerous element of AI that they've created. Discovered?
Yes. You think they've discovered something? That would be my guess.
So, that would be my guess. I think they discovered something dangerous and the world ought to know what that was. Now, just a couple of days ago, we got a report that came out that is absolutely crazy.
I don't see hardly anybody talking about it. But Ilya, OpenAI, ex chief scientist. He said that he planned for a doomsday bunker for the day when machines became smarter than man. And specifically what he said was that we're definitely going to build a bunker before we release AGI. This is what Ilya told his team in 2023, months before he would ultimately leave the company.
Now, real quick. What is AGI? Just so we're all on the same page. There's a difference. All artificial intelligence is not the same, right? You have ANI, which is designed to perform specific tasks.
And this is what we're dealing with right now. A lot of what we see right now in the AI models that we are dealing with, like ChatGPT, for example, these are designed to perform specific tasks. But contrary to popular belief, a model like ChatGPT is not smarter than humans. It's not smarter than humans. But we are on track to get to that point where we experience AGI, which is artificial general intelligence. This is where the AI can behave in a human-like way across all tasks. So this is where it becomes just as smart as humans. In some cases, it might even be smarter than some humans. And then the ultimate end goal that these companies are racing toward is ASI, which is artificial super intelligence.
This is where it becomes smarter than humans. This is the stuff of sci-fi. Ilya, the man who created ChatGPT, he left OpenAI three months prior. He said that we're definitely going to build a bunker before we release AGI. I think the thing that was even more interesting, what he said, is that building AGI will bring about a rapture.
You're hearing that correctly. Ilya said that building AGI will bring about a rapture. He said there's a group of people, Ilya or the article says, there's a group of people, Ilya being one of them, who believe that building AGI will bring about a rapture. And not just a metaphorical rapture.
He's talking about a literal rapture. Now, Ilya left the company. He left OpenAI. But remember, he tried to fire Sam Altman.
That didn't work. He came back. Sam Altman came back. Ilya goes dark. And then suddenly he pops up again and he says, the reason why I left is because they're working towards something that is very, very dark. And the original creator of ChatGPT does not trust the current intentions of the CEO, Sam Altman, in his desired use case for this potential dark technology that is being developed that is going to eventually be here one day that we're all going to experience.
So what does Ilya do? He starts an entirely new company called SSI. And the specific goal of this company, the entire mission, is a safe super intelligence. It's not even about making money.
Now, they've raised over a billion dollars. But the goal is not to release a product that is designed for commercial success. The goal is to build a safe super intelligence. Remember, what is super intelligence? Super intelligence is what comes after the AGI. So Ilya is concerned about the AGI. He's concerned about the AGI triggering some sort of end times type of event, right? And now he built an entire company focused on ASI, which is the step after AGI is achieved, which is going to be smarter than humans, can think on its own, can operate on its own, can make its own decisions, can run in the background 24-7, and accomplish whatever goals it deems needs to be accomplished.
Now, you remember Stargate? This is the project that Trump announced. It was the $500 billion AI infrastructure project that was announced. And he announced this project because there's literally a race on AI.
I don't know why I can't talk today. AI. There's literally a race on AI, right? So Trump said that he raised $500 billion. He brought in Larry Ellison. He brought in Sam Altman, OpenAI CEO, and they're building massive infrastructure, huge data centers in Texas, massive data centers in order to support the continuous upscaling of this technology. There was also just a release just a couple days ago as well from Axios that says that OpenAI is building a massive center in Abu Dhabi.
So now the UAE is involved, they're putting another $10 billion into the mix, and they're all partnering with Oracle, with Nvidia, with SoftBank, with all these different companies that have access to tons of capital in order to get to the point that we talked about. To get to the point where we see AGI, to where these models are smarter than humans. And what do I mean by models? When I say models, I mean these AI models. So these AI models are essentially like ChatGPT and these other companies that are making AI softwares.
Google has one. China has a very successful one also that the United States is worried about called DeepSeek. So DeepSeek is a Chinese AI app that has the world talking. So DeepSeek, literally when DeepSeek released, it tanked the stock market. People were freaking out because China was able to do what OpenAI did in just a fraction of the time. So whoever gets to this point first, whoever gets to the point of AGI first and then eventually ASI is going to have a massive amount of power and influence and control.
And it seems like either way that you slice it, whoever gets there first, whether it's the US or China, I'm not very confident at all that either side is going to use this technology for the ultimate good. I want to show you something. All right, we're back. I want to go back to where you started, Joe, in Matthew chapter 24. I'm going to read verse 23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, Christ is here or there, believe it not, believe it not, for there shall come false Christs and false prophets and show great signs and wonders, insomuch as if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before, wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert, go not forth.
Behold, he is in the secret chambers, believe it not. Now, we said all of that and to say this now, I was watching these completely AI-created pastors. I mean, they looked as human as you and I, Joe, and here they were preaching a false, totally false gospel. They were preaching that there is no hell. In fact, then they showed an AI sermon where you had this pastor up on the screen.
It was completely done. It was in this church and the pastor of this church, this guy is unbelievable, he thought what a wonderful, wonderful thing it is now that we don't really going to need pastors anymore. We've got this great intelligence, like you can trust this, right? I mean, unbelievable, but, so, again, the reason I said all that is this. If you folks out there listening, when you start hearing people that you know of for a long time saying things that are totally and completely out of their character, it's because it's not them.
Can they cut into a radio broadcast like this or a television? Yeah, they've got the ability to do that. Absolutely. So, now, we're wondering, so, when he said, why do you guys think when he said that in his opinion, Ilya said that this was going to bring on the rapture. What do you think he meant by that? I mean, it could trigger a falling away, a lot of people getting misled. It could trigger a lot of people to believe false doctrine, to believe false scripture.
Well, I mean, that's... Turn away from doing what we should be doing based on the actual Bible. Well, that's what's actually happening now, but what he was saying is that that would be the point where God would intervene. Well, do you think that the Father has already, the Bible says the Father knows the day of the rapture. He knows when that's going to happen. So, the time is already set. So, Joe, do you think that he's trying to say that this is going to be the signs that you'll see when you see this, because this will lead... It's what Jesus, the warning that Jesus gave here, this is it, that look up because your redemption draws nigh. Do you think that's what he meant, Joe?
Yeah, I do. It sounds like it fits very biblically, because all these wonders and signs with all this stuff they're talking about, it's a little beyond my education and that kind of thing, but the things that they say they'll be able to do would create wonders and almost look like magic. And I could see where they could fool most of the earth real simply and put up happenings that look so real and all the newscasters say it's real and people would believe it. It would be the perfect way for the coming of the Antichrist. Well, you see, the old saying, seeing is believing won't be so true, because... Right, it won't be true at all. Well, you see, that technology...
The fact that God is not the author of confusion and this is going to bring our world confusion. It already is. See, that technology is here now. It's being used.
Right now, up on the Internet, I don't know if you've seen it or not, but I've seen President Trump and his wife out there singing like rock stars. And it looks as real as can be. There's some funny clips that people are doing with this. Some people are using it for comedic value, but it could so very easily be used to deceive a lot of people. Now, a lot of the ones that you see now, it's pretty obvious that it's not real, that it's AI-generated, like the Trump as a baby or anything else that you see, which those are hilarious too.
But it's getting to the point to where it's getting harder and harder to detect and if it's not too over-the-top ridiculous, I could see a lot of people falling for a lot of the different things. Well, let me, I'm going to just come up real quick here. And here, let me just, I'm going to go to just show you maybe some of what, for example, that you might, we might see here. Okay.
Let me see. What I'm looking at is some of these things that are happening, like they have Hillary being arrested. I mean, it looks real. There's Hillary, and they've made these things, for example, here you go right now.
They've got Kamala Harris, and they got her testifying in court on day 13 of Diddy's trial. Now, I don't think, you know, this got breaking news. I don't think this is real.
I think this is AI-generated, okay? And so when you go to look at it, let me see, I'm looking at another one, just what I'm telling you. I mean, it looks, folks, I mean, the way they have this, it looks very, very real. And another problem we have now, too, is, yeah, okay, you think it's probably not real, but then you try to go to a trusted source. How many trusted sources are left after, after everything that we've seen through the fake news over the last 10 years, roughly, at least, at least. Can you trust, really trust anything that they say? Who's to say that they wouldn't just go along with some fake story? Well, you see, they have, they've been going along with fake stories for 20 years. Exactly. And if they have video, quote-unquote, proof that looks legitimate because AI's gotten so good, I mean, so many people are going to get fooled by a lot of different things. Yeah. Now, just remember, they did not have that when they did the Russia, Russia, Russia thing.
Now that they have that, you would have bet, if they'd had it then, they would have had Trump saying these things and it would have looked very, very real, okay? And so, again, so, it's here. And you've proven negative, right? You have to prove a negative, right? Right. So, it is here, right? You have to prove you didn't say something, that's going to get hard. I mean, I can see right there where the confusion comes.
Guilty until proven innocent and that's going to be even more true. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going to stop there and go to some of the current events, things that are happening. I wanted to do some quick things here just to let you know. Here, you saw what's happened when you have that nutcase from Egypt trying to set people on fire.
One of those in there in Colorado. Can I stop you for a sec? Sure, go ahead. Before you go, one story I have you may not have just mentioned, you know, the deceit and stuff with this. One of the stories out there, the report came out, the special counsel on Mueller's team hid evidence in the Russia collusion investigation. We have a declassified report from federal investigators and this was then kind of through the FBI. Remember Nellie Orr?
Yeah. Or even Bruce was, they were part of this fake Russia collusion created by Democrats, moved by the media. Okay, so what happened here, the FBI has a electronic case management database called Sentinel. And this lets agents, FBI agents, hide the evidence of relevant investigative reports from other agents, other branches of government. So during the Russian collusion hoax, Robert Mueller's team used that functionality in the FBI to keep potentially relevant documents hidden from other FBI agents when investigating whether the fusion GPS contractor lied to Congress.
So we've got to stop and think this is very, the significance of this is incredible. So, wait a minute, you know, the question whether the government complies with constitutional mandates in criminal cases that's supposed to provide defendants all material for exculpatory and things during an impeachment, you know, that might be part of a civil litigation. Just think of the ramifications in all these different cases, you know, and here they hide this, even the good FBI agents couldn't see it, other attorneys in the Department of Justice couldn't see it.
And so now this is just coming out, now we know whether the, remember the FOIA, you know, subpoena for the provide evidence, you know, is supposed to include all relevant documents to the press and public. Well, they stick them in an FBI special, I'm going to read it again the title of it, the electronic case management database called Sentinel, and it will hide the existence of relevant investigative reports from all others. So you were talking about this new world of AI and deceit hiding, we've been, we've had an FBI hiding things against, well, anybody on our side, Christians, conservatives, politicians, the President himself. What about all these other people, remember General Michael Flynn, how much of this stuff was hidden in that FBI database that they didn't release, even, and Mueller's team put stuff there so nobody could see it.
Kept the investigation going for what, an extra year, keeping Trump, you know, getting him beaten up in the press every day, when they had evidence proving nothing was wrong, but hidden all that time. I just, look at this, I'm sick to my stomach for what this is telling me, this, what else do they have? Maybe in the intelligence agency, do they have an NSA, do they have something like this Sentinel to hide things from the public, from other branches of government, from the Department of State, from the Department of Justice, from the President himself? At this point I would think every agency has something like that, every single agency has something like that at this point.
That's what I kind of was getting ready to say. I'm at the point where, I don't know if we can trust anybody other than maybe Donald Trump and a couple of people that we know are really super loyal to him, that would fall on their sword for him. The rest of it is like, I don't believe anything anymore from anybody. Well, you know, JFK had said to the people that there is a very, very deep and very dark and sinister association in this country, that these people are out to undermine and to enslave the American. He said that this is a government within the government, okay? Virtually the deep state. And he said we have to root them out, and so of course you know what happened to him. And so, yeah. Well, I remember you and I, when Obama was President, he would pull these professional bureaucrats and put in a political act, and every day he was putting his people in everything from Department of Education to the Internal Infernal Revenue Service, you name it.
He was putting people, then what did he do? Turn around and started issuing permits and guns to everybody from the IRS to people in the Department of Education, giving them weapons, weapon training, building an army within the government. We were talking about how they were building an army to protect the federal government from us.
Yeah, absolutely. We told them blow by blow for years. We were sick of it. Look what they're doing now. Look what they're doing now. It got almost to the point where we were starting to feel like we were a record stuck. For eight years, for eight years, we were telling people, does anybody see what's happening?
Does anybody see what's going on out there? And, you know, of course, there were some people listening to us, and so, but, yeah. And Obama, remember, every time that he would do that, he, twelve, no, it was eleven, eleven four-star generals, he purged eleven four-star generals that these guys were the best, the most patriotic, the most, he got rid of them. Anyone who was... And a bunch of, there was a whole bunch of colonels and lieutenant colonels and major ethon Christians, they were just gotten rid of all over. There were a couple hundred people.
Two hundred, two hundred and sixty. And we had eight years, we had eight years of that, then four years of Trump, which, I really don't think much of that stopped because Trump really didn't know who he had on his team throughout those four years, and then another four years of Obama and Biden. And now, finally, we've got Trump there to hopefully put a stop to some of this, but, I mean, the damage might be done, honestly. Well, remember what they pulled out to try to interfere and to weaken and stop Trump was COVID. That was, you know, set up, this is a biological weapon they used of that, COVID, to try to stop Trump, to keep him from being able to button all of his policies, and it worked. Yeah.
It shut down the country, it shut down the government, yeah, both. Well, now, Dr. David Martin is saying, look, they've got their, the plan is the same. This time, you know, they're using, they're planning on bringing out, and he has the paperwork, the documentation, and the whole point of it is to stop it by putting, you know, getting the word out there that, so, if they know that enough people out there know, because, do you know what, the people that are behind this, actually, all their names are listed right on it. This is as a part of this program. Oh, good. And so, if we can... Well, remember, we were telling about all the labs, I mean, they even had labs that were working on this kind of stuff in Ukraine.
25. All over the world. We've been subsidizing all over the world, these labs working on things that we shouldn't be messing with. Yeah, we had some labs right here in Ohio. And so, yeah, there's those labs, the ones there, remember, out there in New Mexico, they had those labs where... I'm thinking Ukraine, I mean, there's a war going on with bombs and things going off, and if they hit a lab, accidentally, not every rocket fire, not every howitzer round hits its target, being ex-military, sometimes we'd fire rockets every once in a while that want to just go totally crazy, fly way off in the middle of nowhere, you know, sometimes 70, 80, 90 degrees off course. All you need is one round like that, anywhere near one of those biolabs blowing up, and only God knows what could be released. That's what bothered me, was there's a war going on where those labs are. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we're coming up to a break, so before we get to the break, a couple fast things up there. Do you know, we were talking about intelligence. Do you know what the Democrats are saying is the best way now to prevent arson, because they're talking about the fires that have been started, what happened today, you know...
In Boulder. Yeah. So the best way, according to the Democrats, to prevent arson is stricter gun laws.
I thought they were going to take away matches. Of course. Ah, come on, lighters and matches, right? Of course. No, of course. It's always got to go back to guns.
Always. One way or another, it's got to go back to guns. They've got to get those guns out of your hands. And, you know, once the day that James, or once the Carville, he came out and he said, you've got to quit being so stupid. And he says, and you have to start speaking in plain English.
They were wondering why the Democratic Party can't attract men, why men are leaving. And the Carville says, you've got to quit talking so stupid. You've got to start speaking English. Yeah. We're going to take your guns so that you don't throw a Molotov cocktail at somebody. Yeah, so...
I mean, that's the most logical thing I've ever heard. Not. Yep. Anyhow, so folks, that's the best way. Just when you think it could get crazier, Pastor Ernie, you know?
Yeah, I hear you. Oh, don't ever underestimate them and their stupidity. The power of stupidity? Don't underestimate the power of stupid, right? Just ask Greta Thunberg.
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